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Every 57 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:33.319 week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and 58 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.599 infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with your 59 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:53.479 host journalist and author Dan Zupanski, Good Evening Forgotten Sacramento 60 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.039 Murders nineteen forty to nineteen seventy six explores the crimes 61 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:02.960 by Sacramento's greatest nation. The murders that shocked Sacramento two 62 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:06.199 generations ago are now only remembered by a handful of people, 63 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.400 but during its time, they startled Sacramento to its very core, 64 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:15.199 including the original Boogieman, who in nineteen fifty six murdered 65 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.919 a young boy in a downtown movie theater's men's room, 66 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:22.000 the Mad Basher of nineteen forty one, who disappeared after 67 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.439 his spree, only to reappear in nineteen fifty six to 68 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:30.400 kill five more. Teenager Raymond Alatschaw grew tired of his 69 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:34.520 abusive father, so he killed him, his new wife, step brother, 70 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:39.240 and grandparents in nineteen forty three. From nineteen forty nine 71 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:43.520 to nineteen fifty one, hobo Lloyd Gomez murdered eight men 72 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.919 in hobol camps up and down the Central Valley. His 73 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.199 conscience caught up to him after he murdered a fellow 74 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.759 hobo for a couple bottles of beer in Sacramento. The 75 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:59.240 despicable Robert Nicholas, the c SU Sacramento graduate who murdered 76 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.479 his three small children in nineteen sixty four and was 77 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:07.439 astonishingly paroled in nineteen seventy seven. This evil man stewed 78 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.639 in hatred for his ex wife, murdering her. In nineteen 79 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:15.080 eighty five. He died in prison. The unsolved double murder 80 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:19.199 of grocery store clerks Philip Latimer and Michael McCandless in 81 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:23.120 nineteen sixty five. In nineteen fifty eight, Sacramento media was 82 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.040 turned on its head after local television personality Ogden Miles 83 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.680 was found murdered in a stubble field near Antelope. A 84 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.600 violent same sex tryst doomed the married father of two. 85 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.199 Sacramento has a long and sordid history of murder, beginning 86 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.680 with the murderous founder John Sutter. Who taught thought nothing 87 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.439 of killing Native Americans, to the recently captured Joseph DiAngelo, 88 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.079 who is accused of being the Golden State Killer. Sacramento 89 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.680 has a reputation for creepy murders. The book that were 90 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.319 featuring this evening has Forgotten Sacramento Murders nineteen forty to 91 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.839 nineteen seventy six, with my special guests, journalist and author 92 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.079 David Kolchik. Welcome back to the program, and thank you 93 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.959 very much for a greenious interview. David Kolchik, Any, thanks. 94 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:11.839 For having me on again. It's always an honor. 95 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.800 I hope I pronounced your last name properly. It's been 96 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:17.879 a little while. 97 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.639 So yeah, you did, you did it perfect. 98 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:23.000 There we go. Thank you very much. 99 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:27.360 We are from the same Slavic stock, you know, so yeah. 100 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.839 We do have that. Yeah, you got to kind of pask. 101 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.800 You got to make sure, you know, is that the 102 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.519 way to produce it. I mean, I think I'm looking 103 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:40.879 at these vowels and consonants properly. Congratulations had the Sacramental murders. 104 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:47.199 Thank you. This is the congratulations book that This book 105 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.000 is kind of came out because of my other books. 106 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.680 I had so much information, so many files on all 107 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.800 these other murders, and I thought, you know, I love 108 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:03.240 the city. Sacramentos is one of the one of the 109 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.439 greatest cities, I think in the America. So it's, uh, 110 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:11.920 it's laid back, it has a porch culture because of 111 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:16.600 the heat. It has a very strong evening culture that 112 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:20.480 goes back since it started, you know, you know, siestas 113 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:23.120 and all that, and it's a great city. It's it's 114 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:30.079 basically in a forest. So yeah, so our Golden State 115 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.600 murdered the east Side rapist that happened in the neighborhood 116 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.879 right where I live now, and my wife was about 117 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.920 twelve years old and it was happening, and you know, 118 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.199 that's when everybody got steel doors for their front door 119 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.079 and all that. And you know what, everyone knew he 120 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.439 was a cop before any of this even happened. And 121 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.920 he talked about the East Side killer, everyone would say, oh, 122 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:54.519 he was a cop, he was a cop. 123 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:00.920 Yeah, there was a lot of correct people. But it's 124 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.839 still an amazing, incredible story and Sacramento is certainly again 125 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:05.600 on the map. 126 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:12.439 Yeah. Well, for some reason, crazy murders happened here. 127 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:19.800 Absolutely absolutely, as demonstrated in this book. Jeez, let's get 128 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.639 to some of those right now. Separate the two stories 129 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.680 because there is a gap in time, but we'll put 130 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.279 those together. They call them the Mad Basher in an introduction. 131 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:31.680 We call them that, but you call them the Mad 132 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:36.560 Killer in the book. And so we talk about the 133 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.720 Mad Killer returns, but there is the Mad Killer of 134 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.079 nineteen forty one and then later nineteen fifty seven to 135 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.800 nineteen fifty eight. So, like I say, a sixteen year gap, 136 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.160 let's talk about the Mad Killer of nineteen forty one. 137 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:55.959 And you have the victims as Raman Revaz and Alfred Reid, 138 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:00.720 and then three John does one, two and three. 139 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:02.639 There's also a mean tell us a little bit of 140 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:11.959 Sanders who was beaten and survived. But yeah, so well, 141 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.000 Sacramento has always been the end of the line. And 142 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.639 I mean around Sacramento is you know, the great Sacramento Valley, 143 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.399 in the San Joaquin Valley. Everything grows here, you know, 144 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.399 so they need a lot of transient workers, and you 145 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:29.439 know and honest to god cowboys, especially back in nineteen 146 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.399 forty one, and so they would find these guys, and 147 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.159 it so happens today where they find them in a slough. 148 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.000 There's a lot of little channels out here for irrigation 149 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.879 for all the fields and stuff. And even now they 150 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.720 find people, you know, decomposed and the slow, you know. 151 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.200 But in nineteen forty one it got a little crazy 152 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:55.200 because five of them showed up, actually more than that, 153 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:59.879 but five of them for sure that were beaten to death. 154 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.799 And the summer in nineteen forty one, first guy they found, 155 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.759 he was outside of the town. He was too decomposed 156 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.039 to identify, and they believed him to be Mexican or 157 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:18.399 Filipino heritage, about twenty years old. He'd been dead for 158 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.519 a while, about eight months now. In August twentieth, they 159 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:27.399 found Davis Rancher Elford Reed, and he was by this bridge. 160 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:32.879 And oddly enough, the area it's still pretty pretty rural. 161 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.720 It's still Sacramento, but it's very rural area by the airport. 162 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:42.759 And they found these shepherds found this guy, Elfred Reed, 163 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.240 and he was all beat up and broken up and everything, 164 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:51.000 and he was able to tell the police that he 165 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.679 had been drinking with a man under the Ice Street bridge. 166 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.720 There's only like two bridges in Sacramento in the Ice 167 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:01.840 Street bridges. One of them road in a car bridge 168 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.759 and it's one hundred and something years old. So these 169 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.360 the hobos and people, well, it's right next to Old 170 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.759 sac and Old Sentramento now is a state park in 171 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.639 the California system, and it's all made up. So it's 172 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:19.000 a Wild West town. And that only happened since the seventies. 173 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:24.360 For one hundred and thirty years, it was where you 174 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.879 would go to pick up a hooker, or to buy heroin, 175 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:32.039 or to drink crazy or whatever you wanted. It was 176 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:35.519 like the den of vice or red light district. And 177 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.759 since they fixed it up, they tore down there. We 178 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.480 had all these you know, facides on it, tore it off, 179 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.679 and there's like the Old West asides and so now 180 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:46.960 it's like where you go for you know, you take 181 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.320 visitors to check out. But back then it was a 182 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:55.759 real dangerous place where where homeless men got loaded out 183 00:10:55.799 --> 00:11:00.360 of their gorge. So they were drinking under the bridge 184 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:02.320 and me the guy was going to give him a 185 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.679 ride back to his ranche and he took him the 186 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:07.200 wrong way and beat an inch of his life. After 187 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.399 the police and the ambulance came, they didn't know but 188 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:14.240 a few yards away from that guy was another victim 189 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:18.360 named John Sanders, who was found just like an hour 190 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.480 after the ambulance is all left. It's kind of you 191 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:26.559 think about police and the way they do things back then. 192 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.600 You would think that they would form a circle and 193 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.919 you know, and secure the crime scene or anything. But 194 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.639 you know, here's six seven feet away was another guy 195 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.039 and they didn't even see him because of the tall 196 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.440 grass and stuff. You know. So they find that guy 197 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.639 and he was pretty messed up too, and but evidently 198 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.200 he said that he bought about o wine and the 199 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.679 next thing he remembers waking up in the hospital, he 200 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.879 was really beating up the read guy, the first guy 201 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.000 they found. And a couple of days later and that 202 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.919 Sanders guy recovered and left Sacramento, and uh, you know, 203 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.320 an other days, I find that very odd, just as 204 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.720 a journalist that journalists wouldn't have you know, got a 205 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.639 hold of them and given him a few drinks and 206 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:20.480 find out his side of the story. But it wasn't 207 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.480 like that in those days. So just the four days 208 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.519 after Reading Sanders were attacked, Ramond Revez shows up not 209 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.240 too far away from where the other crime scene was 210 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.639 and he was already dead. While it was missing. He'd 211 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.000 been in the water for a couple of days, some 212 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:42.960 other bodies showed up. There's one this one of the 213 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:47.679 john Does kind of became famous because this story. I 214 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.759 heard of this story quite a while ago, like when 215 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.000 I first moved to Sacramento, and it was written down 216 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:57.200 in some websites and stuff like that. And this they found, 217 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.480 along with this guy with a felt hat from L 218 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.240 Style Shop on K Street, and you know, they tried 219 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:06.919 their best to try to figure out where, you know, 220 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.159 who this guy was, but they never could. The funny 221 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.519 thing is that later on, maybe twenty years ago, L 222 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:20.159 Style Shop was like a underground punk rock nightclub. So 223 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.159 you know then when I found that, I was like, hey, 224 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.000 L Style Shop. Oh so yeah. The newspapers had a 225 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.720 pretty good d D with it. They called them the 226 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:35.240 insane Slayer, the mad killer, the basher. They were always 227 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.720 in competition for each other, the union and to be 228 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.440 and the police said they mean it their top priority. 229 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.960 But then again old Sacramento, Uh, during that time, just 230 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.559 before that time, it was exposed that a bunch of 231 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.720 police officers actually owned some of those buildings that were 232 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:59.000 you know, whorehouses and illegal gambling joints and stuff. So 233 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.759 the cops didn't really want to dig too much into 234 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:11.000 their little money making area. Pearl Harbor happens and the 235 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.320 guy disappears. Nobody dies after that. So there's always been 236 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:19.279 this thought that this guy, because he was extremely strong, 237 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.159 he was like a gorilla. He beat these people to death. 238 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:28.159 And there's a big thought that he was a Air 239 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.279 Force member, because Sacramento had two major Air Force bases 240 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.559 on its north and south side, Matherfield and McAllen Field. 241 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.840 McCallum Field is where the two Little Raiders planes were 242 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:45.639 all outfitted and very major place. Mather was a big 243 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:50.840 training base for navigators. And this guy disappeared and they 244 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.279 never saw They thought maybe he was in the military, 245 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.399 and when the war happened, he got transferred out. No 246 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.360 one ever, It's a stop, just like that. 247 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.679 He also say that other Jewish jurisdictions in Yuha County, 248 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:08.279 Sutter and Sacramento Counties and Yolo also wanted to clear 249 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.480 those cases. And you kind of questioned that so and 250 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:15.000 what you saw was maybe a little bit baseless. What 251 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.879 what did you see with tying those cases, those five 252 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:19.799 other new ones to those other five. 253 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:25.720 Yeah, the cases that I that I have down here 254 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:28.480 are the ones that I could really nail down like 255 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.080 the other ones were. You know, Yellow County is still 256 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.440 a very rural county and Sutter County. Uh, they're all 257 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.919 very uh you know even now they're kind of cowboy counties. 258 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:44.799 And so they they cleared off their their their board 259 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.399 with a lot of these floaters that they found that 260 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.399 they were victims of the mad killers, so that they 261 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.639 didn't have to uh investigate it anymore. They could clear 262 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.000 it up as a case. I've been too involved in 263 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:03.919 Californian crams to really especially in those days, to believe 264 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:09.159 you know, police actions, because you know, back in those days, 265 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:13.279 he became a police officer because you know, Uncle Joe's 266 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.960 kid couldn't find a job after he got the army. 267 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.440 You know, it was kind of a last resort job. 268 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:21.840 It wasn't a career where he went to college for 269 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:22.679 like it is now. 270 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.600 Well, you can still have people with not the best 271 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:32.000 intentions or motivations to join a police force too. So 272 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:35.480 see some of that I think it depends. But yeah, 273 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.440 things were much different, let's put it that way. Now 274 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:39.320 you talk about the matter. 275 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:47.080 We had nineteen fifty seven. Nineteen fifty seven murderers started 276 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.559 to happened just out of the blue. Our thing is too, 277 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.360 is that this guy could have been military and been 278 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.559 transferred back to Sacramento. But then again, that's like a 279 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:02.200 sixteen year, eighteen year app and that is about the 280 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:06.079 average that you get in California for a homicide, like 281 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:10.880 a second degree homicide murder case. So right, he might 282 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:15.920 have been arrested for a completely different crime and since 283 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.880 the proson for it. But in nineteen fifty seven, in March, 284 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:24.839 Walter Wayne Eins, thirty seven year old dairy truck driver 285 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.359 who was very conscious of this guy who's gotten never 286 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:31.119 missed work, and all his customers loved him. He went 287 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.640 missing on March eighth, nineteen fifty seven, and that's the 288 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.759 time when things start melting around here and the rivers 289 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.200 start getting a little wild and things start getting green 290 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:45.720 by March and Sacramento, so he didn't show up for work. 291 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:47.880 A couple of days later, they found his bran new 292 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.000 pickup truck parked outside of Auburn, California, which is about 293 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.359 forty miles up the American River and up by eighty two. 294 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.400 This guy was not an outdoorsy guy. There was like 295 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.559 no reason his family were just they were like, what 296 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.680 would is, what would he do be? What would he 297 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.519 be doing up there? You know, nineteen fifty seven, people 298 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.519 weren't out hiking around in the woods like they do 299 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.279 now or for the last thirty years or so. You know, 300 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:18.400 that wasn't something that average people did back then. So 301 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:23.359 on March thirtieth, almost like three weeks later, fisherman discovers 302 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.640 his bloated, battered body in the American River about five 303 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.640 miles downstream from this truck. And he had a crease 304 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:35.680 in his forehead, and they, you know, didn't know what 305 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.839 to do about. You know, it's like this a murderer, 306 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:43.079 Is this a drowning? His wife received some mysterious phone calls. 307 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:46.519 It said that the authorities now killed your husband and 308 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:51.279 things like that, and she has changed her phone number. Then, 309 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:56.519 in August fourth, Dwayne Darwood dow which can you believe 310 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:04.680 that name? Darwood wown so he knew he actually knew Ams. 311 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:07.799 They lived just a couple of blocks away from each other, 312 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.279 and we're pretty close in the age. He's three nine 313 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.319 year old salesman and he was seen cashing a check 314 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.240 at a bottle shop and he was supposed to be 315 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:19.480 going to church about a month month and a half later, 316 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:23.440 they find him strangled in a remote area not too 317 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.960 far from the American River. It was all wild back then, 318 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.279 it was all just rachland. Now there's a lot of 319 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.799 houses and things there and you know, subdivisions and roads 320 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.559 and all that, but back then it was still very wild. Actually, 321 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.559 where I live right now, just until nineteen sixty was 322 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.000 hopfields in the entire area for miles and now it's 323 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.960 like wall the wall houses. So he had been beaten 324 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.920 at death. His skull larycs were fractured. Now I find 325 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.480 this really odd. His wallet laid on the log and 326 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.200 there's an empty bottle or wine bottle on top. Bit 327 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:05.359 So for that long, no one, six weeks, no one 328 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.559 even went around that area. I just find that so, 329 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.279 you know, so different than what it is like now. 330 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:17.640 And another thing, uh, there's no mention of them doing 331 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:22.799 uh dusting for fingerprints on the wine bottle, which I 332 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.880 found that. It's like, well there's another you know, cop misunderstanding. 333 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.880 So then just a few weeks later, on September actually 334 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:37.279 just three days after they found Dowed, Charles Schrader has 335 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.880 an eighteen year old Coast Guard reservists and he he 336 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.279 uh told his mom, He's gonna hitch like it's another 337 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.319 part of town, northern part of the town called Real Linda. 338 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.240 Uh see some friends and he was found his body 339 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.559 naked in the American River next day, just not too 340 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:03.279 far from the river. It's head was Bashkin So November ninth, 341 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.160 Thomas O'Dell. He was a seventeen year old sailor from 342 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.720 Yuba City. It's about thirty miles north of Sacramento. He 343 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:12.519 joined the Navy to Sea of the World and he 344 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:17.640 ended up being stationed at Treasure Island, which is just 345 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:20.880 underneath the Bay Bridge in San Francisco. So he's like 346 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.200 stationed in one hundred miles from where he grew up. 347 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:28.359 Manga Zoo the world. He was found almost decapitated and 348 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:33.640 naked in a ditch off Ardent Way, Yeah, two hundred 349 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.519 feet from fair Oax Boulevard, which is now is like 350 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.599 a total populated place. Back then it was field at Gus. 351 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.799 He was killed with a meat cleaver and his spinal 352 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.319 cord was severed at the base of his neck. Now 353 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.920 he was found naked and then the police they said 354 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.359 that these weren't sexual assaults. They stressed that in the 355 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.240 paper and by the late fifties they could actually say 356 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:01.240 stuff like that. But I was wondering, you know what 357 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:05.839 happened here? The sailor, that Odell guy. He was all 358 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:09.400 over town that day in Sacramento. People saw him all 359 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.359 over the place, and it just made things really confusing 360 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.680 and complicated for the police because they had so many 361 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.880 places they had to run down, so many leads they 362 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:22.519 had to go after, but they couldn't find out much more. 363 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.839 He was seen with people that looked extremely different from 364 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.759 each other, and there was no like one set person 365 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.839 he was with. So on April twenty fourth, nineteen fifty eight, 366 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.680 Mary Jokum spown their husband, Jake, he had a junk 367 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.440 yard essen stopping them to get something on the way 368 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:44.359 home from the store, and he got distracted, lost track 369 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.960 of time, and when he drabbed home in his house, 370 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:50.519 his wife was gone, the house was dark, and he 371 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.559 wasn't He wasn't too perturbed. He drove to their favorite hangout, 372 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.519 the Pioneer Club, which was a bucket of blood places. 373 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.519 I had another chapter about a murder that happened in 374 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:04.200 a year club. It was I've talked to some old 375 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.519 timers and they were like, I wouldn't even go into 376 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:11.119 that place, you know, and now it's like an overpass. 377 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.359 It was like so evil they'd put an overpass over it. So, 378 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.319 but she was over at that club with her with 379 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:22.359 her brother in law eman a beer, and that place 380 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.720 was it was like their local tavern. They had a 381 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:30.160 very large extended family and they all bar hopped together 382 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.920 and things. And so Jake saw she was there and 383 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:35.920 she was safe and that, and he just went home, 384 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.960 didn't think anything of it, and she wasn't home when 385 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.039 he got up the next morning. He thought, well, you know, 386 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.200 maybe she's at a friend's house, or maybe she's at 387 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:50.119 you know, his sister's house or something like that. And 388 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.079 she didn't call them or anything. So they had no kids. 389 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.279 They were married for fifteen years and they had a 390 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:01.599 pretty easy going relation ship. They liked to go camping 391 00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:06.519 and hunting and bowl together, and they really had their 392 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.240 extended family. They really did a lot of stuff together, 393 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:13.880 especially drink. So you know, they everybody in the family 394 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.200 was like looking for it was like, wow, what happened. 395 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:20.400 You know. Mary worked at a paint store too, and 396 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.759 was like well liked and did a great job, and 397 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.240 you know, like she was this you know, bar bar 398 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:31.680 person really bad, you know, So he was driving around. 399 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.240 He spent one weekend looking for when she was at. 400 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:37.000 When she went there, she was wearing her hair and 401 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.759