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<v Speaker 1>The Force will be with you always.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>Lion's your home on the Geek Ultimate, a Lance podcast

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<v Speaker 2>network for any and a Star Wars. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 2>as always, Katie, and things right now are super chaotic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm joined by the ever present Clay. Clay, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>I am doing good. I'm like still trying to decide

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<v Speaker 3>where i want my stream yard like layout because this

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<v Speaker 3>is the first time in a very long time that

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually been able to like move things around. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is I think this from from where

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<v Speaker 3>I am sitting to where my camera is to where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at you, because if I were to have

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<v Speaker 3>it where I used to have it, I'd be looking

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<v Speaker 3>like this completely away from camera. So I think this

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<v Speaker 3>works out pretty well. I'm doing good. As I told you,

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<v Speaker 3>I am currently sitting in a room that is just

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<v Speaker 3>under a thousand degrees there. There is, guys, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a reason why I left Texas and it's it's really sad.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if I know. My mother never

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<v Speaker 3>listens to my podcasts, but Abby and I were talking

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<v Speaker 3>the other day and she's like, Clay, I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>complained a lot about missing Texas. I miss Indiana. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a week. It's literally been a little more

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<v Speaker 3>than a week. And I think, uh, I when when

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<v Speaker 3>we when we had said, like, hey, Max, two years,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we're gonna make two years. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>like my I was just not born for Texas. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I mean, I was literally born in Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was not born for Texas. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, but it's it's it's been a week. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I really very hard. I had to drive back to

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<v Speaker 2>Greenville today for an appointment because there's just no good

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<v Speaker 2>neurologists in Colombia. So I am keeping my current neurologist

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<v Speaker 2>because we have a good treatment plan and everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I spent fifty dollars in gas today, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have. I refuse to fill up on gas here,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crazy to think about because when we left

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Indiana, Texas was cheaper than Indiana. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>back Texas is more expensive than in Oh wow, which

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<v Speaker 3>is crazy. It's crazy to think about that. But like

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<v Speaker 3>we are, we've ran out. We haven't run out of gas,

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<v Speaker 3>but we've gotten really low on gas, and I just like,

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<v Speaker 3>go to a gas station. I put ten to fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in and I'm like, we're just gonna try and

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<v Speaker 3>stay on this side of town and we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to go anywhere, all right. Yeah, if we go anywhere far,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna ride with my parents and we're just

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to deal with the fact that we're

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<v Speaker 3>stuck wherever we're going to be until they're done. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's crazy, but there there is a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a life update from us guys. We do

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<v Speaker 3>have a little bit of news. Nothing, nothing too crazy

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to just Star Wars in general. The

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<v Speaker 3>biggest thing, and I think we're gonna lead with this,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a headline over at comicbook dot com saying

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<v Speaker 3>Ray's new Jedi order finally arrives in Star Wars' next movie,

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<v Speaker 3>according to major new reports. My big thing though, is

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<v Speaker 3>this headline is misleading.

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<v Speaker 2>Very misleading, because like I read the article, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it two days later and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like the movie's finally moving forward. Great going off the

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<v Speaker 2>headline because I exactly wiped everything out.

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<v Speaker 3>People will see this headline and completely just think of

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<v Speaker 3>the Ray Skywalker movie. The article is specifically talking about Starfighter. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>there is no like con firmed reports. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 3>is just a rumor stating that the New Jedi Order

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<v Speaker 3>is a part of this movie's plot. And we have

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<v Speaker 3>had We've already heard these rumors. This is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just doubling down on them. And when we first reported

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<v Speaker 3>about this, and it seems to still be along that path.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the rumor is along with the plot that Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>Gosling's character will be taking Flynn's character or Flynn is

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<v Speaker 3>the character, Yeah, but Gray is the is the actor,

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<v Speaker 3>Gray's character the child to a quote unquote Jedi planet

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<v Speaker 3>where we will be introduced to raise New Jedi Order. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I I thought, question Mark, well, we didn't get into

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<v Speaker 3>that deep of a discussion when I when I talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it on the gig First discord. But my one

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<v Speaker 3>comment towards this, and I like, I doubt that it

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<v Speaker 3>is because the rumors were even prior to the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 3>Grogu movie debuting at all. But I did say, I

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<v Speaker 3>really hope this isn't a a rushed course correction due

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<v Speaker 3>to the Mando box office I because because we all

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<v Speaker 3>know what that can mean. It can mean like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of what this movie was going to be, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to force this into hear and hype it up

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<v Speaker 3>so that way people hopefully watch our movie, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it just like kind of just ruins the movie. We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen that happen before. I don't think this is the

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<v Speaker 3>case because, like I said, prior, these rumors were already circulating, circulating.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much circulator. We've talked about it before. And how like,

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<v Speaker 2>like we know, like Tom Cruise shot a lightsaber fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're doing a lightsaber fight, doesn't it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of make sense that the New Jedi Order would

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<v Speaker 2>be involved in some way, shape or form. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>do we know that other characters use lightsabers and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily just have to be Jedi and Sith. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but good Guy tends to be the Jedi that has

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<v Speaker 2>a lightsaber, so that would make the most sense for

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<v Speaker 2>a fight.

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<v Speaker 3>And also with this article does point out that I

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<v Speaker 3>never really like questioned more so because I have no

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate past with this character, Like I have no experience

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<v Speaker 3>with this character. Katie, you may know what the article

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<v Speaker 3>is talking about, but it says here. According to the

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<v Speaker 3>reports Starfighter. In Star Wars Starfighter excuse me, Ryan Gosling

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<v Speaker 3>will play Cad, who is described as a Han solo

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<v Speaker 3>pirate rogue like character and is possibly a canonized riff

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<v Speaker 3>of a famous Star Wars Legends character, Cad being Caid

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<v Speaker 3>Skye Caid Skywalker. Now it does stay here, so that.

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<v Speaker 2>For reference, Caid Skywalker is like one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years past Luke Skywalker and like the same generation, decided

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<v Speaker 2>to decline his Jedi heritage as the last I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the last remaining survivor of the Skywalker line.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sith have taken over the galaxy, like to the

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<v Speaker 2>point they have a ruling system, a ruling government on

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<v Speaker 2>Corsant and everything like, so that that's who you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at. I don't know a ton about him

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<v Speaker 2>because Star Wars Legacy was only comics based, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I never really read the Star Wars comics

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<v Speaker 2>in like.

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<v Speaker 3>I have only seen like maybe three or four panels

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<v Speaker 3>of this character. He very much looks like a h

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<v Speaker 3>in Layman's terms, like a bum. Like he is just

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<v Speaker 3>like a like very much. So he's very scraggly, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a long trench coat, he has very messy hair,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the panels that I have seen is

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<v Speaker 3>a forced ghost loose Skywalker basically saying like why did

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<v Speaker 3>you renounce the name of Skywalker? And like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>like you could be so much more Like so I

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<v Speaker 3>get the premise of who Kate is supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it is in a separate article from Comic

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<v Speaker 3>book dot com because there is a hyperlink. When this

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<v Speaker 3>particular article starts talking about this latest rumor or this

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<v Speaker 3>you know, updated latest rumor, it does talk about who

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<v Speaker 3>kid Skywalker is and they're like, oh, coincidentally, paid and

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Gosling kind of look the same. I don't necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>What is he supposed to be? Luke Skywalker's bastard?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so that's the thing. In this article, it does

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<v Speaker 3>state that, like in the current Star Wars timeline, there's

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<v Speaker 3>not really any room to suggest that Luke had a

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<v Speaker 3>bastardized child, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, And I say bastard, guys, I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>negatively basically, but basically.

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<v Speaker 3>The actual definition of.

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<v Speaker 2>His baby Mama didn't tell him exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, guys, I will tell you right now. These two

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<v Speaker 3>people if you are looking on YouTube right now, look

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<v Speaker 3>nothing alike. I'm sorry, they're like, oh they look they

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<v Speaker 3>look similar. They both have one hair. That is it.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no and like.

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<v Speaker 2>The goates kind to match, but like.

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<v Speaker 3>Really but yeah, like I don't believe that they will

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<v Speaker 3>go as far as to say, like in like actual canon,

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<v Speaker 3>like hey, like this will end up being a skywalker

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<v Speaker 3>because if they do, I might throw my popcorn at

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<v Speaker 3>the screen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't necessarily pitch a fit about raised Jedi order

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<v Speaker 2>being in Starfighter because, like I said, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a course correction from mand learning Grogu. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the course correction would be claiming he's a skywalker and

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<v Speaker 2>like reshoots involving that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be so pissed, like genuinely, only because like,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't tell me or at least tease me there's

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<v Speaker 3>a possibility of Ray being in this movie just to

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<v Speaker 3>then say like, hey, I'm actually like your like.

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<v Speaker 2>Adopted sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, like, because then every single person and their

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<v Speaker 3>mother will then say, hey, forget about any plans you

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<v Speaker 3>had about Ray. I want more Ryan Gosling sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Skywalker exactly exactly, and yeah, we don't. We don't need that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and now that this is out there, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get picked up by grifters and people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be saying it. So we're just gonna have to accept

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<v Speaker 2>that people are gonna be like, oh, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>replace Ray with Ryan Gosling. So we're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to push past that and hope that lucasfilm isn't that dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>I I, like I said, I don't think they would be.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it will like I say that, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just disgusts me to kind of think about, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we we just we just go along with grifters,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just we we go along with the minority

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<v Speaker 3>instead of the majority. You know, Like that's how things

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<v Speaker 3>work in the United States these days, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just said, but that's that's the biggest thing to come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the news this week. Nothing else has dropped

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<v Speaker 3>dramatically or anything else. Just so that way you guys

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<v Speaker 3>are aware, we will not have a live review of

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<v Speaker 3>Star Wars Legacy, which does come out next week, comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Out in two weeks. It comes out on the twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>The embargo is up next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, correct, correct, correct, It comes out in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Embargo is next week. We will already record. We will

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<v Speaker 3>be recording our Star Wars Legacy review actually this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will be posting it on that embargo date,

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<v Speaker 3>so that way you know it's out there and we

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<v Speaker 3>will remind you once the actual official release is out

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<v Speaker 3>to go back and listen. If not repost it and

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<v Speaker 3>shared on social media and whatnot. So yeah, other than that,

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<v Speaker 3>before we get onto our main time topic, which is

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<v Speaker 3>is only a small five issue run, we will be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about what we got earlier, uh last week? Was

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<v Speaker 3>it earlier last week or is it early early?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Earlier or late last week?

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<v Speaker 3>Late last week we got not only a poster, but

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<v Speaker 3>we got a trailer for the ninth Jedi. O Katie,

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<v Speaker 3>I shared this with you, and your reaction to me

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<v Speaker 3>sharing this to you was hmmm, So I need to

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were going to go more creative with

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<v Speaker 2>the storytelling, okay, I versus an original trilogy rewrite kind

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm and obviously that can be wrong, but that

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<v Speaker 3>when you say original trilogy, I think you really mean

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<v Speaker 3>the Star Wars go to of World Killer. That is like,

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<v Speaker 3>because everything else is I would say kind of original.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say that they have not created an

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<v Speaker 3>original story. We see, uh, you know, a full band

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<v Speaker 3>of heroes on quotations because there is a there's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a twist that comes along with the trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have our band of quote unquote heroes and

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<v Speaker 2>What I meant by like the masked villain, Okay, feels

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like we've got the bar the original trilogy aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>There there is a word world killer. I do see that.

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<v Speaker 2>but the kyber crystal making the weapon, it just feels

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<v Speaker 2>very rewriting. And I know that that like that they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted these studios to be able to do this, But

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<v Speaker 2>I really thought what we had with the first two

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of The Ninth Jedi was super original storytelling, like

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<v Speaker 3>So I will say this, I do feel that with

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<v Speaker 3>this trailer, the plot is lost. And when I say that,

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<v Speaker 3>the plot of the first two episodes in Envisions season one,

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<v Speaker 3>Vision season three is all about our main character Kyrie

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<v Speaker 3>and her father. Right, is her name Kyrie Kara Kara?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry I knew it started with a k Kara's father

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<v Speaker 3>being this lightsaber forger, right, And I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we see him once in this entire trailer, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's still that focus of Okay, she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Luke, like he was recruited very randomly apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was actually like meant.

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<v Speaker 3>To be Holy shit, hold on, is this is this

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<v Speaker 3>a new hope in Rogue one put together?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I kind of feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I just thought about that because of of uh

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<v Speaker 2>Huh oh no, And that's just it just it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like we're just retranslating, rewriting some things. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say retranslating. I'm still excited for it, but this trailer

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<v Speaker 2>death let me feel a net and especially with the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that this this premiere is all at once on

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<v Speaker 2>August fifth. It's not encouraging in that sort of way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I also wanted to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of this trailer, it says Star Wars

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<v Speaker 3>Vision presents the ninth Jedi streaming August fifth. It just

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<v Speaker 3>says streaming August fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is confirmed that all episodes drop August fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Has it been confirmed that all episodes drop on August fifth? Katie?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to turn it around the entire day.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many episodes have we been Has it been

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<v Speaker 3>confirmed how many episodes this is yet? Guys, we may

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<v Speaker 3>have to break this up into two episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might be that we're dropping an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth and an episode on like the tenth or

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<v Speaker 2>something on that sun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like or I would even say, I would genuinely even say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>if we just break the season and half and we

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<v Speaker 3>break it into two weeks, I think that, Uh. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily think this requires, Hey, we need all to

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<v Speaker 3>like let's say there's ten episodes. Like, I'm not saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>all ten episodes need to be dropped within a two

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<v Speaker 3>or three day span. I think that. Yeah, if if

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<v Speaker 3>all episodes drop on the fifth, say it's ten episodes,

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<v Speaker 3>we drop one through five on the sixth, which will

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<v Speaker 3>be a August fifth actual live show, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>very next week, which would be the thirteenth, thirteenth would

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<v Speaker 3>be episode six through I think that's how we would

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<v Speaker 3>need to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we can kind of play it by year. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>but we will definitely have some sort of view for

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<v Speaker 2>you guys on the sixth for that. The other part

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<v Speaker 2>of this press release, oh it does say eight episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, I'm totally blind, and the press release is

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<v Speaker 2>the eight episode limited anime series is part of an

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<v Speaker 2>all new Star Wars Visions Present spanner, which allows filmmakers

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<v Speaker 2>to tell longer form Star Wars Vision stories. So that

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<v Speaker 2>does kind of tell us that there will be future

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<v Speaker 2>Visions Presents storytelling efforts, which is encouraging. That's it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging that this went well enough that Lucasfilm was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we can keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>We can we can create more content for our Disney

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<v Speaker 3>Plus contracts is essentially what this is about. That being said,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, we don't know any more future projects. When

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to Visions, we don't know. We don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know the locations of the studios in season four. So

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<v Speaker 3>my question to you, off the top of the Dome,

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<v Speaker 3>through Visions seasons one, two, and three, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>next Visions presents series that you want to see?

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<v Speaker 2>Off the top of my head, this is the first

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<v Speaker 2>one that comes to mind, and it's the French anime

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<v Speaker 2>episode from season two, which was, uh, the dancer with

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter that was our son. I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 2>it was, but what her child basically was taken by

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<v Speaker 2>the Empire and uh like mutilated and stuff. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see a continuation of that story. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>French episode. I really fell in love with that style

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<v Speaker 2>of animation, but also the story being told of a

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<v Speaker 2>mother's love for her child. I thought it was really unique,

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<v Speaker 2>really special, and I loved how the animation touched on

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<v Speaker 2>like the different dance elements. So there's others. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's others, but that's that's the one that jumps out

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of my head. What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>So I off the top of my head, off the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the Dome, I have the Bounty Hunters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this was one from season three that we both enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>very much, and we both had said, like, hey, this

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot of potential for future installments if Visions

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<v Speaker 3>ever goes back to Japan. This I think does very

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<v Speaker 3>much have potential with the because it was with the

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<v Speaker 3>the woman that was at one point enslaved and then

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<v Speaker 3>became a bounty hunter and all of that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think with a really fun droid in there as well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that would be a very very fun series

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<v Speaker 3>to jump into. The second that I immediately thought of,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think somebody like Snell would appreciate because he

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<v Speaker 3>loves Wallace and Grammet and you actually really really it

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<v Speaker 3>was in season two I Am Your Mother, which was

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<v Speaker 3>the ah the young the racing one with the pilot

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<v Speaker 3>Annie uh and actually had a canonically uh oh who

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<v Speaker 3>was the Yes, Wedge was a part of was was

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<v Speaker 3>a part of that one as well. So I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the Claymation would be a really fun series to jump into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, Yeah, I'm excited for the ninth Jedi.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll see how it goes. Yeah, And that is,

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<v Speaker 3>like we said, debuting August fifth, one month from now. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We have so much content, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So much legacy Legacy Review next week, Eyes Like Stars,

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<v Speaker 2>the following week, Vision's Manga, the next week, the ninth Jedi.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a blast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so much reading, but guys, I think that's all

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<v Speaker 4>the news pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, how is the box office for the Mandalorian.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a quick look, because I think that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have one hundred and thirty six dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>How much?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh excuse me? That was the AI for Google box

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<v Speaker 2>office Mojo is my typical uh place for box office

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and forty point zero seven one million.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars currently placed at number eleven in the box office currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my hit three point fifty it might.

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<v Speaker 3>Which which is a lot more than what I predicted.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I totally lost that pizza bet with

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<v Speaker 3>Travis for Supergirl that I thought Supergirl was going to

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<v Speaker 3>do better than Star Wars and that crashed and burned.

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<v Speaker 2>So I haven't gotten a chance to go see it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel bad about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is. It's it's not looking great. But nope,

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to be discussing Doctor Afra Chaos Agents.

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<v Speaker 3>This is uh the twenty twenty five run. It is

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<v Speaker 3>five issues long.

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<v Speaker 2>Ky, we have writer, yes, Cherish Cherish Chin. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she goes they go by Cherry. For artists, we had

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<v Speaker 2>Gabriel Guzman for issues one through three, Kieran Mcowan for

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<v Speaker 2>issue number four, and Stephen Cummings four issue number five.

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<v Speaker 2>The color artist is Mike Attilla and the letter is

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<v Speaker 2>VC's Joe Karaman. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover art EG Sue for number one and E. G.

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<v Speaker 2>Cure for two through five. Assistant editors Mikey J. Basso

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<v Speaker 2>and Drew Baumgartner, and the editor is uh Mark Panacea Panachea.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of art for this one, I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>liked four through five better than one through three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I am the same, although I will admit one,

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<v Speaker 3>two and three did have uh emotional facial expressions down

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's stuff like this guy. Sorry guys, the

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<v Speaker 2>background is throwing me off, but.

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<v Speaker 3>The very was my thing I have. I I think

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<v Speaker 3>the story was okay. I do have a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>this series though, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Non emotional steaks but like interesting no stakes at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it has stakes for Afra as a character,

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<v Speaker 2>just not wide pressing the steaks and is a beloved

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<v Speaker 2>character who they think and I agree with, can still

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<v Speaker 2>be relevant to the cultural of Star Wars. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the problem is is af as a character. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I have not read all of the Afra runs.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read bits and pieces here and there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the issue with Afra is that so far she has

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<v Speaker 2>required a secondary she she requires a secondary main character.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she is. She is very much co dependent.

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<v Speaker 2>She piggybacked off of Vader, She's piggybacked off of Luke Khan,

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<v Speaker 2>She's piggyboff, piggybacked off Chrys, Santan, Sana, Starros. The list goes.

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<v Speaker 2>On issue number five, I felt like Afra was coming

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<v Speaker 2>into her own and I needed more after that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like we were finally getting Afra as a

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<v Speaker 3>And then it ends, it ends, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Very sad, and so I think, like, we have Luke

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<v Speaker 2>for issues one and two, and then we have Han

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<v Speaker 2>for issue three, and then we have Chili for issue four,

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<v Speaker 2>which was very random, Like, did not see that coming,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess because they wanted to have two wookies play

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<v Speaker 2>on the same page together.

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<v Speaker 3>that they introduce the idea of bringing Han in, more

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<v Speaker 3>so because I understand that you have to like get

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<v Speaker 3>people excited for the next issue, because not everybody is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be aware of things like solicitations which literally

421
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 3>tell you like, hey, this is what's going to happen

422
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in the next issue. The way I would have gone

423
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 3>about it is like, at the very end, Loose Skywalker says, oh,

424
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>by the way, you're gonna have somebody watching over and

425
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 3>he like throws the data pad at her, and she's like,

426
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Han Solo, I think he should have kept it to himself. Yeah,

427
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 3>because of the way that issue three starts, Afro is

428
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of talking like she doesn't know what her next

429
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 3>mission is when she has already been told that Han

430
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Solo was going to be tagging along with her. So

431
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 3>there's just some like things I would have changed for sure. Also,

432
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 3>if issues one and two did not prove, or if

433
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 3>you had any question on what kind of individual Luke

434
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Skywalker was before this series, issue one and two proved

435
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 3>he is a cop. Afra specifically told Luke, Hey, not

436
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody's going to be super jazzed about you being here,

437
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 3>So let me run the gauntlet on this and we'll

438
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 3>be good to go. And as soon as somebody says oh,

439
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the force he immediately takes off his hood is like, hey, on,

440
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 3>behalf of the Republic, I'm taking this into custody, and

441
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 3>then all hell breaks loose. Yeah. If Luke would have

442
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 3>kept his mouth shut, stayed quiet, Afra would have gotten

443
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 3>everything they needed with no chaos and sewing. Now I

444
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 3>understand that the book would have then been four pages shorter.

445
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Ha I understand that. But to put Luke in the

446
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>light of being this cop like figure and then an

447
00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>issue too blaming Afra were the chaos that ensues in

448
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 3>issue one. I was so angry reading those issues. I

449
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, Luke, why did you do that? It was

450
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 3>very easy. She was getting everything that y'all wanted. And

451
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 3>then an issue too, he was like, hey, because if

452
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 3>this is what happened on the last planet, I should

453
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 3>take control of the situation.

454
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>That's what got me is I didn't really care that

455
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>he did the thing. I think he lives by that

456
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 2>farm boy persona, and they did it a little bit

457
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>better in the legends where it was like some naivete

458
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like everybody in the universe's good kind of feeling in

459
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>this case that naivety would have benefited better. But then

460
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>to act all high and mighty in issue too. I

461
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, you really feel like a cop right here.

462
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and also it doesn't help his case that And

463
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 3>again I understand this is the reasoning behind the storytelling

464
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>and the reasoning why they do it, but for the

465
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.440
<v Speaker 3>fact that he was like, Hey, I'm gonna be the

466
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 3>face of this investigation and have a door slammed on

467
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>me every single chance that I get. And then Afra

468
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>literally just spends less than fifteen minutes talking to somebody

469
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 3>in a card game and she's like, Hey, I have

470
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 3>all the information we need.

471
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 2>That aska for you though she's spectacular, but it is

472
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>just like.

473
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 3>For one people, we need to we need to come

474
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 3>to terms with the fact that even though Luke Skywalker

475
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 3>can be a badass, he is just another white guy.

476
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Like he is just another white man that does not

477
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>need to be the answer for everything.

478
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

479
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 3>That's just like and you can.

480
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Have big storytelling moments where he is that focus, but

481
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>it in it It's like Lucasilm was trying to say,

482
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of when they were making good efforts, is that

483
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Luke Skywalker is only one man, and Leah and Han

484
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 2>are only two other people that can't be everywhere in

485
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the galaxy, all at once, and then all of a sudden,

486
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>now we must have him everywhere back a kid.

487
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

488
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So, and we didn't have enough people show up for

489
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the Mandalorian and Grogu, which I totally get why because

490
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>box office or movies are expensive as heck right now,

491
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I totally get. I'm not saying that, but Lucaslm's gonna

492
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 2>look at that and go, well, we tried. Now we

493
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>have to do something else.

494
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I will say this, will say this. I went to

495
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 3>go see Supergirl here in Texas because literally the weekend

496
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 3>it came out, I was literally driving from Indiana to Texas.

497
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Seeing a movie ticket for less than twenty dollars was

498
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 3>very nice. But I do know if I were to

499
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 3>go see the same movie after six pm, it would

500
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 3>not be less than twenty dollars. So it's it's expensive

501
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 3>everywhere for sure. But yeah, as far as anything else

502
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 3>in the Doctor Afra series, really, I think I have

503
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>too many gripes. Other than the first two issues, I think, well,

504
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 3>and like when when you said like, oh no big

505
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 3>whenstandre percussions, I think that was Another big complaint is

506
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 3>that when you put this premise out to people. And again,

507
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I think this is more so a result of this

508
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 3>only being a five issue series. Yep. Like by Issue too,

509
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 3>like by the beginning of Issue Too, it felt like, Hey,

510
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 3>this Gauntlet could be something.

511
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

512
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 3>It really felt like it was nothing because of the issue.

513
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's and that's what they tried to do with

514
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty run. I feel like is they carried

515
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>over artifacts and made them big proponents. I do like

516
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the idea of Afra being a dagger and like a

517
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 2>historical artifact hunter and that's how she works for her

518
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>sentence off kind of feeling. I liked that concept, and

519
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>I like when we talked about our Star Wars suicide

520
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>squad like in the Mando era, like we both or

521
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I put her on there, Yeah you did,

522
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you did, But like, I think that concept totally works here.

523
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>The big issue is not enough time and not enough

524
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh not enough? Like what's the word I'm thinking, there's

525
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 2>not enough. I don't want to say effort, because I

526
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>know everybody put great effort into the storytelling, but like,

527
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 2>effort's like the closest thing I can look I can

528
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 2>find in my head. Sorry, guys, it's definitely not the

529
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.159
<v Speaker 2>word that I'm thinking of.

530
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Just want to say hi to Alex in the chat.

531
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 3>And also, Kevin, we do see your comments on the

532
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Starfighter Future and how it's going to bounce back with lucasfilm.

533
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>We do believe that is true. Also, yeah, we'll.

534
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Talk about it more after we get done with the

535
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>comic review.

536
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I agree, And this goes back to our

537
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 3>conversations with Jedi Knights and Kylo Rinn recently, and I

538
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 3>say recently, I feel like twenty twenty four and twenty

539
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty five specifically, there has been a little bit of

540
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 3>a less investment in the Star Wars line of comics

541
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to Marvel, and it kind of hurts

542
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 3>because we always say like we're we're always saying like, oh,

543
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 3>we don't really have to worry about concept because it's

544
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 3>constantly coming to us because we cover everything. We cover movies,

545
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 3>we cover TV shows, we cover books, we cover comics. Yeah, Like,

546
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 3>when you look at everything, it's all encompassing and it's

547
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>a whole year's worth, but when you look at those individually,

548
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>it starts to shrink. In comic books specifically, when it

549
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 3>comes to Star Wars, it's been almost like a desert.

550
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 3>There hasn't been much of anything consistently. Everything has been

551
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 3>a limited series, and I genuinely think things need to

552
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 3>change when it comes to that aspect Star Wars specifically,

553
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 3>so that way we can have substance with everything that's

554
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 3>going on with these characters that we want to see.

555
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Either that or you need to be upfront with these

556
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>artists and the authors who are coming in and you say, look,

557
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>you got five issues. I need a tight story and

558
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>it need to make it work. The other thing I

559
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say, I think this is the last thing

560
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.079
<v Speaker 2>that I had was this cover, this issue cover.

561
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

562
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Originally when this came out, I was like, why is

563
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Luke so feminine looking? And I know people like to

564
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 2>say he looks kind of feminine your preference. I've always

565
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 2>thought Luke was more masculine, but that also might be

566
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>the Star Wars legends. But turns out this is her sister.

567
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 2>This is not Luke very important in case you were thinking.

568
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 3>I well, and that's the thing when you look at

569
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that's one of the other big complaints to

570
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 3>me is when you look at the series, like judging

571
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:01.400
<v Speaker 3>a book by its cover, you look at issue one

572
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 3>and then you look through issue two through five, Issue

573
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>one looks like it should not be a part of

574
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 3>this series. It's like they decided immediately after they got

575
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>the completed work on cover on cover one, was like, hey,

576
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 3>we definitely need to change this. Yeah, I don't know why.

577
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't. Like there's like the cover that I currently

578
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:30.920
<v Speaker 3>have on our thumbnail is actually a variant cover. It's

579
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>not the uh A cover, actual cover for uh for

580
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 3>the series. But when you look at the covers, it

581
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 3>looks like the odd one out. It looks like the

582
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Black Sheep, And it's again totally preference. Are is subjective,

583
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 3>totally understand the It just looks like a completely different

584
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 3>story compared to everything else.

585
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And I think like he the artist for issue number one,

586
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 2>came back for two through three, that's Guzman, but it

587
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 2>does it looks like they dropped the aggressive shading a

588
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>lot in two and three, like it cleaned up because

589
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>like they're still like this is this is the beginning

590
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of number two And I know you can't really see

591
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it that great, but like this is very much less

592
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 2>shaded Luke Skywalker face compared to the one that I showed.

593
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's because they took a look at

594
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it and said, yeah, you know what, this is not

595
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna work. Or maybe this was originally supposed to be

596
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 2>a one shot, because I did feel like Issue one

597
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>was kind of long, longer than the other issues, so

598
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was supposed to be a one shot, like

599
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 2>attached to Star Wars, and they were like, yeah, you

600
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 2>know what, this has promised, like we're gonna make it

601
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 2>a mini series instead.

602
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And I also and I also do

603
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 3>have a small problem with the fact that when you

604
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>in the book with literally the fact that you have

605
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 3>no idea whether she actually learned her lesson or not.

606
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, Like because she is talking to her sister

607
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, hey, I had a really nice conversation

608
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 3>with somebody that's somebody being Luke Skywalker about how you

609
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 3>can change and like you don't have to keep running

610
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 3>and everything else. But like once the sister said stuff,

611
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 3>like they're like, okay, cool, let's let's just go, and

612
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>you're like, okay, but go where are you running again? Yeah?

613
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Or are you going to be a dagger when the

614
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 3>next time we see you?

615
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Because it goes back and forth, and the whole

616
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.119
<v Speaker 2>title of this series is Chaos Agent. Like I feel

617
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 2>like if she was only going to be a Dagger

618
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Agent for five issues, we should have had Dagger here instead.

619
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Really because there's not there's chaos an issue one, which

620
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>is also why I kind of leaned towards it was

621
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 2>a one shot that got developed further.

622
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I understand that Afra can be a loose cannon, and

623
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 3>like that was the whole point. That's the whole premise

624
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.920
<v Speaker 3>is that like, hey, like we understand and value your

625
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 3>knowledge and skills, but you even convinced your parole officer

626
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 3>that you should go and steal some things Like that

627
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 3>was like the whole first issue, which I thought was

628
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 3>really really funny, but like everything from after issue too,

629
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 3>she is like doing good. She is not a loose cannon.

630
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<v Speaker 3>She is not breaking any rules. She's not be like

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<v Speaker 3>she's not becoming a rogue agent or anything. She's following

632
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<v Speaker 3>the rules. So like I think overall, and and I

633
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<v Speaker 3>think this is a silly argument, but I still think that, like, guys,

634
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<v Speaker 3>this could have done a lot better even if you

635
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<v Speaker 3>do twelve issues, because five just seems way too short.

636
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<v Speaker 3>It Like I don't know what the resolution is at

637
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<v Speaker 3>the end, Like I feel like I didn't learn anything,

638
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<v Speaker 3>Like it feels like there is no like ending.

639
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<v Speaker 2>It just ends, Yeah, which is I believe that's how

640
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<v Speaker 2>Afra has ended the previous two series is kind of like, Oh,

641
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<v Speaker 2>we're just going to kind of go off and like

642
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<v Speaker 2>see what happens kind of thing. Uh, respecting the chaos

643
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<v Speaker 2>of who Afra is. If you guys are interested, our

644
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<v Speaker 2>friend at Ryan at my knock Manner has actually completed

645
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<v Speaker 2>two interviews I believe with Chen.

646
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<v Speaker 3>They were really good interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>I admit I forgot to read them before we did this,

648
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<v Speaker 2>but I read them when he first released them, and

649
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<v Speaker 2>they were very good interviews. He did a really great

650
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<v Speaker 2>job and it was a fun interview with Chen. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would highly recommend if you're interested in that to

652
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<v Speaker 2>go check those out because I do think they did

653
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<v Speaker 2>a really good job and there's promise here. But like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, like Jedi Knights, there's some missing stuff here

655
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<v Speaker 2>and it feels like we got rushed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably my favorite art in this, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>Issue four and five. Four is probably my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>I out of every out of every issue, I think

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite would have to be issue for I think

661
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<v Speaker 3>you're right, Yeah, I think issue four, especially, Like again,

662
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<v Speaker 3>artists objective, everybody can have their own opinion, but transitioning

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<v Speaker 3>to what we had in issues one, two, and then

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<v Speaker 3>three and then switch over to what we have in

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<v Speaker 3>four felt like a little bit of fresh air. It

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<v Speaker 3>was very clean, very smooth. I love the shading, I

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<v Speaker 3>love the colors, and I think you're right. I think

668
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<v Speaker 3>genuinely they're just like, hey, we need some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>buffer between issues three and issue five. Let's just have

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<v Speaker 3>two wookies to duke it out. Yeah, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why Chewy and Chris An we're a part

672
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.599
<v Speaker 3>of that that issue because it happens so quickly, because

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<v Speaker 3>again they're fighting for like three or four pages and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's the exposition and then the ending, so you're

675
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<v Speaker 3>kind of just looking at arts for a little bit

676
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<v Speaker 3>while they're fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>And Afro's commentary is super funny. I definitely love Afra

678
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 2>as a character, and Chin definitely hits Afra's character very well.

679
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh but like even the guy in the beginning who's like, Abra,

680
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 2>we need you in the drawing by like I was

681
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 2>cackling in the coffee shop, oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>For the comic discussion. So going to Kevin's comments before

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<v Speaker 2>we close out, Guys, Kevin says Starfighter trailer will be

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<v Speaker 2>released the public D twenty three XL Lucas film will

686
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<v Speaker 2>bounce back theatrical. We can hope for the bounce back

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what happens. I just I I need

688
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<v Speaker 2>the billionaires and the millionaires to recognize that we're in

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<v Speaker 2>a different situation and that we need to keep budgets trim.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. If anything, again, We've talked about this so much,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Obsession is a really good explanation. Is

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<v Speaker 3>a really good example. Obsession had I think less than

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<v Speaker 3>a million, less than one hundred million. I can't remember

694
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<v Speaker 3>the exact budget for Obsession, but it has broken records

695
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<v Speaker 3>for the genre and for the type of movie that

696
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<v Speaker 3>it was wanting to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did I lose you or did you lose me? Clay?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so they Katie, Okay, I'm back. Okay, both cameras

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<v Speaker 3>went out. I have no idea if anybody could hear anything, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll double check. But what I'm what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>is that with different genres, budgets can be extremely different.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why I will always be a huge

703
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<v Speaker 3>cheerleader for Star Wars needs to lean into genre filmmaking

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<v Speaker 3>instead of just trying to be the one billion dollar

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<v Speaker 3>box office movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not everybody's gonna hit there, so that they just

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<v Speaker 2>need to recognize that and recognize that four hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars three hundred million dollars at the box office. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not a bad thing if you can keep your

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<v Speaker 2>budget better. So, yeah, I do not know about the

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<v Speaker 2>star Fighter trailer being released to the public T twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three XPL. I'm thinking probably more towards Christmas, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they've shown a trailer at an expo

714
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<v Speaker 2>yet for a Starfighter, and typically the first one that

715
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<v Speaker 2>Lucaslim shows is at an expo and it's private, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much we would get. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be leaning more towards Christmas or maybe October ish with

718
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<v Speaker 2>like college football, like a big game for college football,

719
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<v Speaker 2>that would probably be where I would be at for

720
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<v Speaker 2>the trailer. People easily get offended about everything right now,

721
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<v Speaker 2>Disney going to have to play it safe to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the family audience. Yeah, I easily offended this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this was this. I think this was my

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<v Speaker 3>comment towards uh when we started talking about grifters and

725
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 3>everything else. Like, I like, I think that we have

726
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 3>seen very recently that there has been a little pandering

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<v Speaker 3>to the negativity, which is not great long term, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do I do think that a lot of studios

729
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<v Speaker 3>need to really be careful with that because like, just

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<v Speaker 3>just know that every single audience is in a bubble,

731
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<v Speaker 3>because if you're looking at long term, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>generations and generations and it's just not gonna look good.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to modify for the generations that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>because the Generation X, the Boomers, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be here forever. And you cannot sustain a business with

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<v Speaker 2>catering to one generation. You just can't. Yeah, So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that cuts us here. So remind you guys

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<v Speaker 2>before we say your goodbyes. Next week you will have

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<v Speaker 2>an episode. It will not be a live episode, it

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<v Speaker 2>will be our Star Wars Legacy review. Clay and I

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be recording that the Saturday. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have any questions, feel free to shoot us

743
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>a social medium message or an email. You can use

744
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the user name star Wars Alliance with no A in

745
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the Wars very important, don't forget it. And that is

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00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>our social media user name. Uh. If you want to

747
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 2>email us, you can put that user name in front

748
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of at gmail dot com and shoots an email for

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00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 2>any questions that you guys have. I have finished the book.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say is I believe miss Rue is

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<v Speaker 2>an artist, and I will leave it at that until Saturday.

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00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.079
<v Speaker 3>I have paced myself, so I have not yet finished

753
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<v Speaker 3>it yet.

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00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Clay is pacing himself. The following week will also not

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<v Speaker 2>be a live episode. We're going to be reviewing Eyes

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<v Speaker 2>Like Stars. Eyes Like Stars releases July twenty first, and

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<v Speaker 2>so our episode will be dropping when that, guys would Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we're both lucky enough to receive review copies, So that

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<v Speaker 2>is what you can expect the next two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we will have our Star Wars Visions. We will

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<v Speaker 2>be back on the third, No, the twenty ninth, excuse

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<v Speaker 2>me as our live episode return Star Wars Visions Sukomo

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01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that is a manga that is being released actually next

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01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 2>week on the seventeenth, I think, or the fifteenth. Fifteenth

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01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 2>sounds right, So that's what you can expect from us, guys.

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01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 2>So Clay, where can they find you?

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01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Of course, you can always find me at fanboy Clay

768
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram on threads. That's kind of where I've been

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01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 3>hanging out for the most parts, So go check me

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01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:48.800
<v Speaker 3>out over there. We have not had a episode in

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01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.039
<v Speaker 3>a hot minute for Rainer Alliance. We are finally That

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01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 3>was my daughter's toy that just scared the crap out

773
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<v Speaker 3>of me. I don't know if anybody heard that, but uh,

774
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:02.840
<v Speaker 3>we have not had an episode in a hot minute

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<v Speaker 3>for Ranger Alliance. We are finally sitting down this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>uh to get that recorded and it will drop on Monday. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>so be on the lookout for that. Uh. And uh yeah, Katie,

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<v Speaker 3>what about you, y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me on most social media platforms. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find me on most social media platforms. It's at Slice, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, Star Wars Alliance, UH, with no A

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<v Speaker 2>in the war is very important, don't forget. It's blue Sky, Instagram, Threads, Gmail,

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01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.719
<v Speaker 2>use the user name at gmail dot com to shoot

785
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 2>some email. We love hearing from you guys. Looking forward

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01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 2>to kind of getting through the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got one more book scheduled after July. That is

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01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the Reign of the Empire, Edge of the Abyss, book

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01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>two of that series. So and then we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 2>be diving into a lot of comic reviews and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of looking forward to that sharpening up

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<v Speaker 2>my comic review skills. So uh yeah, very excited, very

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01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:16.719
<v Speaker 2>excited to get out of my mom's basement. So with that, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to wish everyone a great day or night,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever time a day you are listening or watching, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will see 'all next time. May the Force to

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<v Speaker 2>be with you
