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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the opening line report Kelly Stewart here,

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joined every single Monday morning by Teddy Covers, where we

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run through this week's NFL slate in terms of where

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the market is going to go. So get your odds

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logic screens open or those wager Talk free odds pages

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and follow along here in the comments section. Teddy covers

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not a lot to report from yesterday. But I was

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really close to saying ooh nice four and O'Day in

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the Westgate Super Contest because now it doesn't matter because

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I'm just sitting right around five hundred.

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Speaker 2: And then I.

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Speaker 1: Realized that when I had switched the Broncos game from

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twenty four to seven to watch Packers Bears, that some

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insanity ensued, at least from a side and total perspective.

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Speaker 3: Sure, so we like to talk about the beats on

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the show, and of course you know the certainly if

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you had the Broncos and or the under yesterday, pretty

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tough the way that game ended, though, I you know

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that the Dave Portnoy meltdown is a little bit and

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that's dangerous, all right.

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Speaker 4: You can't be gone murder.

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, investigate the refs and financials.

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Speaker 4: Shut up, dude, you bet before?

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Speaker 3: All right, sometimes you're on the wrong end of these

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and if you had Denver, tough, tough way to lose

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the game, But to talking about murdering people and you

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know it's just.

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Speaker 2: Not it's all for clicks, Teddy.

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Speaker 3: Once you route professional, dude, if you're if you're, if

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you're like the face of a sports book, the last

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thing you want to be doing is, oh, by the way,

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all these games are rigged and investigate everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's fair, that is fair. And listen, was the

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Raiders a huge need yesterday for the sports books? Absolutely? Was.

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Speaker 1: I understand why people that haven't been doing this this

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long want to scream collusion, want to be outraged. Would

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I be stocked to know that Pete Carroll knows the spread?

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: And just to give you a little fu on the

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way out the door, because they got absolutely dominated by

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the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Not surprising in the slightest, No.

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Speaker 4: These things have.

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Speaker 3: That's why we don't put all of our bank roll

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on any one given play, all right, no matter how

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good it looks, no matter how it plays out.

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Speaker 4: Shenanigan's can and do happen?

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Speaker 3: Remember the Eagles Rams all right, in my opinion, was

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a worse beat than this one, or every bit as

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bad as this one, you know, maybe worse.

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Speaker 1: But I was on the opposite side of that. So

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those are the good that come with the bad, and

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that's gambling, especially in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but do I believe that there?

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Speaker 3: And again the play with the flag to stop the clock,

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it was a bonehead plate, but you can throw a

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flag there. I didn't think that there's anything bizarre about

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throwing that flag there. You know, the guy's laying on

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top of him's supposed to be getting up. If you

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would have gotten up, you wouldn't have thrown the flag.

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And the problem would meself and said he's knocking the

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ball out of his hands. It was again by the

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book delay a game. I've seen that, not in that

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particular scenario where the spread is going to be covering.

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Then of course Carol coming on with the field goal unit,

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which I'm sure is his little you know, you say,

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does he know the point spread? Maybe that's his little few,

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but he's allowed to do that.

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Speaker 4: And the quote after the game.

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Speaker 3: Was, we thought we might have one second left to

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try an on side, all right, it's gambling.

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Speaker 4: It's always gonna be gambling.

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Speaker 2: That is gambling.

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Speaker 1: And then that just reminded me of the field goal

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with the Broncos in Indianapolis. I mean, these things happen, yes,

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every single week, but.

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Speaker 2: They happen four or five, six, seven times a year.

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Speaker 1: Especially when you're betting on a significant amount of games,

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and eventually it's going to even out.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it doesn't. You know, if you have more

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right sides, it's just like a poker. If you're starting

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with better hands, you're gonna have more bad beats against you.

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If you started with more right sides, you're it may

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not even out exactly. But the point is this. You know,

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when the guy gets into the end zone and he

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does the celebration like you know he to the end

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of it, it's like act like you've been there before.

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Speaker 4: Bed beats are gonna happen. They're a part of the process.

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Speaker 3: If you can't handle it, you can't be betting, plain

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and simple. So we all have our meltdowns, all have

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our moments. All right, I have them, you've had them.

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Speaker 4: We all have them. Okay, but it's okay.

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Speaker 3: To have a moment, but you got to calm down

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and fit and move on to the next week another day.

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Speaker 1: Like Teddy says, if you're using proper bank roll management,

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you can live to bet another day. And that's what

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we're gonna do here. We're gonna get into week fifteen.

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Time flies when you're having a good time, Teddy covers,

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I don't know what to make about this Bucks team.

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I know that I was complaining and bitching about the

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Cleveland Browns because I went back and forth between them

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and the Vikings for my second Survivor pick. But really

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I should be bitching about this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team

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who got absolutely dominated by the Saints yesterday. That was

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then You've got, you know, the Falcons, Kirk Cousins. A

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lot of people took the seven with the Falcons with

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no avail pretty much after the first quarter. Seattle dominated

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that game. Talk to me about Falcons now Thursday night. Oh,

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I'm sorry, I want to back it up. Monday Night Football, Teddy,

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What am I doing here? Monday Night Football is tonight?

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The Chargers play our producer Dan Alexander's Philadelphia Eagles. You

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have a play up on wager Talk dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just visit my website and waytererter talk dot com

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is in my homepage wt dot buzzbacks last Tcat to

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check out my betable opinion for a tonight's game. We've

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seen two way action on the side really hasn't moved.

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It's been Philly two two and a half all week

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total wise, We've seen a little bit of under money

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come in.

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Speaker 4: I'm in play on the side today.

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Speaker 3: Did go three and ozero in the NFL yesterday, So

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we'll see if we can make it a four and

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oh week in the NFL with my best bet tonight

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over on my page at waytertalk dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thursday Night Football Atlanta takes on Tampa Bay.

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Talk to me about the Tampa Bay team that was

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I hought to start the season now has started to

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really fizzle out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, September October is a long way in the

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rearview mirror now, right, ask India asked Tampa.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't Baker Mayfield an MVP candidate? Yes, it sworn, I remembered.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I might have even said it. Anyhow,

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as we do each and every week here on the

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NFL Opening Line Report, the way you talk NFL opening

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line report, I give you four sets of lines for

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every game. The first set we call the look ahead line.

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These are the betable lines for this game last week,

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so we can see how much one week affected the

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point spread between these two teams. Then they give you

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my power rating number, and that's just team A Team B.

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Home field does not factor in situation at all. So

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give you a look head line my powering number. I'll

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give you the opener from last night, and then what's

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happened since the opener what we're looking at today on

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the Odds Logic Live Odds screen. So for Atlanta Tampa

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Bay look ahead line, there were five and a half,

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so there were six out there for the Bucks. Total

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was forty four and a half. My powering number came

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Tampa Bay five and a half. Markets opened five and

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a half last night, and I'm seeing a split market

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right now.

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Speaker 4: The money's come for Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: The five and a half are still out there, but

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there's five and four and a halfs in the betty market.

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In fact, those are the prevailing numbers right now. And

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this is really a pick your poison kind of game,

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all right. I'll talk about Tampa in a minute. Let's

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talk about Atlanta. They've one and seven their last eight games,

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you know, eight straight losing seasons. This team hasn't been

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the playoffs, hasn't even been the playoffs since twenty eight

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to three. All right, special team's meltdowns for the Falcon

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second week in a row. Come out in the second

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half of game, the game's tight. Do you talk about

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the last forty five minutes in that game? That game

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is tied six to sixth at halftime, Atlanta comes out

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and kicks the second half kickoff, and Seattle returned for

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a touchdown game over right there, and then they had

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a block field goal from an unblocked defender. Second week

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in a row for Rahee Mars where the special teams

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have been costing them big time. And you know, Drake

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money on down the stretch Raheem Morris. I don't think

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he'll be back. And obviously you're playing with a veteran

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backup quarterback who is cashing his check. Say it was

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Say what you want about the Kirk Couz at this

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stage of his career. That being said, you know, Tampa

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beat San Francisco week six. They were five and one

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at the time. Since that time, they beat the Saints

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once in two meetings, and they have a win against Arizona.

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With five losses, they're two and five straight up their

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last five games, one and four straight up oher and

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five against the spread. The only game they were able

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to win with by a field goal against Arizona. The

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defense allowed one hundred and thirty nine rushing yards yesterday

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gashed by Tyler Schuck. Baker wasn't good, you know, fourteen

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to thirty for a Buck twenty two four point one

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Speaker 4: That's not gonna cut it, you know.

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Speaker 3: To Todd Bowles, quote, doesn't matter whether the team is

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twelve and oh or oh twelve.

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Speaker 4: It's the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You have to show up and make plays or the

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other team is going to beat you. Talk about how

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maybe they weren't up for a division rival at their

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home field to snap a losing streak.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Godwin Chris Godwin, the wide receiver, talking about the offensive

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struggles quote, I don't disagree that it feels disjointed.

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Speaker 4: I can't put my finger on exactly.

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Speaker 3: Why I feel like we could, It would probably be

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easier to fix it. You can't just look at this

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and go, oh, it's whatever, it's not whatever. We have

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to correct it. If we want to make a run

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of this thing, we've got to get it together and

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get it together fast.

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Speaker 4: That, my friends, is an urgency quote.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Tampa is actually able to be urgent

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and play at that level on Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 1: All right, Texans looked pretty good on Sunday Night football

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over the Chiefs, at least from a defensive standpoint there.

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Teddy and I had the rams and teasers yesterday. I said,

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I don't really love this spot.

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Speaker 2: Nope, easy pasy.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals are just on a down world spiral. Kind

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of talk to me about this one, because I think

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now you're starting to pay a premium here for the

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Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: Sure that maybe pay a premium to bet against the

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Arizona Cardinals. Look aheadline here there were six and a

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half and sevens for Houston total forty two and a

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half my powering number after the Cardinals got smacked last

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night and the Texans upset the Chiefs as high as

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nine for this ballgame again six and a half, as

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low as for the Look at nine's my powering number

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the markets before the game, there were seven to seven

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and a half, forty two and a half after the game,

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nine and a half even a prominent ten out there

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for Houston total forty two.

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Speaker 4: And a half.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Texans are the kind

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of team you want to lay more than a touchdown with.

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That's not their mo They're not about winning necessarily by margin.

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And how they win last night. They win the one

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last night because Kansas City dropped passes, Kansas City made

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bad fourth down decisions deep in their own territory in a.

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Speaker 4: Tie game in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: It was yes, Houston won, and Houston played well enough

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Speaker 4: Did they play enough to win by double digits? I

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don't know.

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Speaker 3: As for Arizona, look, you know they give up tw

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hundred and forty nine rushing yards yesterday and that included

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three Jimmy Garoppolo O'Neil downs. The defense allowed seven point

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nine yards per play and thirty first downs. It's worth

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noting the last three games against divisional opponents for Arizona,

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they've been lit up in every one of them, blowout

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loss forty four to twenty two. Forty one to twenty two,

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forty five to seventeen Seattle. San fran and the Rams

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have destroyed Arizona, but every other opponent they played since September,

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they've hung tough all the other five loss of all

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the way four points are left in the Monday night

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football win at Dallas. That being said, you want to

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talk about an ugly injury report after yesterday's game Arizona.

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daydrin Tember.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can go on and on.

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Speaker 3: It felt like, you know, Paris Johnson got hurt yesterday.

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Below Nichols left in the second quarter, didn't come back.

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James Dylan Thompson, the safety, left and didn't return. The

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veterans are kind of checking out Arizona. The points bread

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certainly affecting that the Cardinals not likely to get a.

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Speaker 4: Whole lot of betting support in the markets in early

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I wonder if this team is checking out.

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Speaker 1: I bet against him last week and I got burnt

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Teddy covers. Now the Raiders are headed to Philadelphia, who

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do play tonight on Monday Night football. I think I'm

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gonna use I have one survivor, one lowly survivor left,

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and that I never have to talk about it again

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in comment section, ear least not for the rest of

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this season. And I think I'm gonna use Philadelphia as

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one of the legs.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's smart?

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia coming off a road trip, going back home to

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play the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Raiders aren't winning a whole lot of games these days.

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argue against it. And obviously yesterday the Raiders completely dominated

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pretty much start to almost finish. They played a really

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good last two and a half minutes. If you had

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taking the points look aheadline here, Philly minus twelve and

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a half forty my powering number, Philly minus twelve. The

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market's open twelve and a half thirty eight and a

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half last night, and that's what we're seeing today. Obviously,

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the Eagles haven't played yet, but it's not a scenario

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where we can anticipate the Raiders getting a whole lot

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of public support, especially got me Gino injured his hand

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and shoulder. We'll have to see if Kenny Pickett plays

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and Picket look good, looked relatively good for what the

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Raiders' offensive looked like this season. He didn't turn the

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ball over eight of eleven ninety seven yards eight point

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eight yards per past attempt solid that being said, rushing

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yard it's Denver one fifty two Vegas forty. You know

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Pete Carroll talking about who the quarterback is going to

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be this week quote, I'm going to do what I

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think is the right thing to do, and if Gino

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can play, I'm rooting for Gino to get back out

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there and see what he does. We're not gonna play

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him if he's not right, So Kenny will be ready

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to go. I've seen a lot of Kenny in practice.

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he's clearly a competitive guy. I see nothing but positive stuff.

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I'm coaching the hell out of him so that I

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wanted to be ready if the opportunity pops. So at

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this stage we don't know. My hunch is that if

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Pickett plays, we're more likely to see Raider money than

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if Gino plays. You know, from a power raking standpoint,

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I'm not making a whole lot of difference. I'm making

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a zero point zero percent adjustment between the qbs. But

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when you have a younger QB with something to prove

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as opposed a veteran playing out the string, sometimes you

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get a bump off of that. As for Philly, they're

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playing Monday night against the Chargers. They're off back to

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back losses against Dallas Chicago. The last two games Philly

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four and oh start three and one against the spread

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four and four. Since both straight up and ats, they've

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covered every game they've won. They failed to cover every

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game they've lost over their last eight contest and that's

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likely to be the case again tonight in a near

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in this less than a field goal Eagle's favorite point

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spread range.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's a good question for you, Teddy. We

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talk about drop offs from starters.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are on their third string quarterback Brady Cooking.

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Yesterday I had them in a teaser and he bobbles

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this on red zone. He bobbled the snap and then

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he threw an interception. And I text my buddy Steven,

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who does a lot of the teasers with me, and

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he said, I said, I did not bet on Brady

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cook And he goes, who the hell is that?

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Speaker 2: And That's what I knew we had a problem.

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Speaker 1: I knew he was the rookie for Missouri, but good grief,

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was that ugly. Now they're headed on the road to

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play the Jags.

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Speaker 2: I do think that Jags.

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Speaker 1: Game was a little lopsided, obviously, because Danny Dimes appears

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to have torn his achilles yesterday in that game. Talk

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to me about this Jaguars team and them laying double

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digits to Brady Cook and the Jets, barring Tyrod Taylor

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making a comeback.

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Speaker 3: Look aheadline Jacksonville minus nine and a half, forty three

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and a half. My powering number Jacksonville minus ten and

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a half. The markets opened eleven and a half and

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forty two last night, And of course this is all

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a matter of how much you're gonna adjust for how

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much worse are the Jets with Brady Cook than they

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were with Tyrod Taylor? And the market are saying more

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than I thought, obviously with the eleven and a half

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and forty two last night. And again, look at the

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OS logic live on screen right now, I'm seeing eleven

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and a half's out there, there's a twelve, there's a

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thirteen with Jews coming the other way. So I'm not

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anticipating that the Jets are going to attract a whole

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lot of money this week. And yet bra he Cooked,

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the rookie from Missouri, finished fourteen of thirty five point

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four yards per past them, zero touchdowns, two interceptions. I'll

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say this, he was better than Max Prosmer for Minnesota

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last week. That's the worst QB performance we're gonna see

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from any quarterback this season.

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Speaker 4: What we saw from.

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Speaker 3: Mott Brosmer when the Vikings got shut out. So Cook

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was better than that. That being said, the Jets were

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one to twelve on third downs, They were out game

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by more than two yards per play, and they were

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minus three in turnovers. The defense force none again and

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allowed two hunred and thirty nine rushing yards at five

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point eight yards per carry. You know, Aaron Glenn quote,

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this game was definitely disappointing. Really hard to put this

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in words. The only thing I can say is I

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didn't have these guys. I didn't have these guys ready

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to play. That was obvious by the way we went

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out there and played. You know, fifteenth straight non playoff

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season for the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Jets, Jets, Jets.

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Speaker 3: They're starting three rookies on defense right now and what

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they do. They allowed touchdowns on each of the first

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three series. They got one hundred and fifty three rushing

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yards in the first half. Glenn was right, Jets were

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not ready to play this past Sunday, and Miami made

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them pay. As for Jacksonville, the defense, the Jets defense

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isn't forcing turnover. Jacks defense is. They forced three turnovers

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to knock Danny Dimes out of the game and they're

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still member. We talked about it at the time, the

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loss to the Texans, the game where they led twenty

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nine to ten in the fourth quarter and then allowed

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Houston to score three fourth quarter touchdowns and then get

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a defensive score in the final play of the game

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to win thirty seven, thirty seven to twenty nine. They're

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still talking about that game, and that game has kind

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of been a rallying cry for the Jags ever since

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five and one now their last six games, the only

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loss coming to the Texans, and they to talk about

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how that lost is still haunting them. You know, Travis

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at ten, At the end of the day, I feel

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like no one likes us except for us. Just goes

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along for being within the for being in this organization

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and the way the organation has been for some time now,

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we're not gonna get their respect. We kind of don't

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even care. As long as we know we have inside

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this locker room, we can go out there and take it.

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There's no better feeling than being disrespected and having an

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extra chip on your shoulder and having an extra edge.

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And that same quote kind of echoed by Trevor Lawrence.

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We feel we all feel like a really good team.

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We probably don't get the credit we deserve. Everyone talks

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about every other team, even our own division. All those

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other teams are gonna go win the division, and nobody

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cares about the Jaggs, which is fine. It's just kind

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of how it is. We'll use it as a chip

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on our shoulder and keep playing. It doesn't really matter.

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Liam Cohen, same quote. I don't know if we'll ever

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really get respect. That's the beauty of it. It ain't coming,

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you know that, And that's totally fine. Our guys just

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keep finding ways to get a little bit pissed off

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and play their tails off at execute at a higher level.

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So that whole well, no respect, no respect, no respect.

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They're talking about that a lot in the Jaggs locker room.

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They're talking about the game that they blew. In the

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Jaggs locker room. Jacks was playing good football right now.

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I know if they're playing last flight double digits with them,

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good football with the Jaguars. From a powering standpoint, right now,

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everybody as good as the Texans. Even though Houston is

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a team getting the hype.

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Speaker 1: Teddy, the comment section is beating us to the next game.

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They're already talking about the Cleveland Browns. And I got

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some pushback yesterday because I said, I cannot believe I

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wasted a survivor pick on Shardeur Sanders and the Cleveland Browns,

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and people were mad that I blamed it on Shador,

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But I do think the reality was there was a

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game turn turning point, if you will, where after he

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threw that really bad interception, things really got away from

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the brown team.

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Speaker 2: Then they were playing catchup.

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Speaker 1: Then that really stupid two point conversion that the comment

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section is talking about. Anyway, on to this week, Caleb

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Williams and the Browns are bears. Excuse me, hand up,

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been dead wrong about this team, and at least from

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this year's perspective, but they had a shot to win

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it there late or at least tied up there late

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in Lambeau, Caleb Williams picked off there in the end zone.

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Kind of break down this game for us. What are

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we going to see from both these teams going forward?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, and then of course the Browns debacle of a

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two point conversion try. You know, that's not get anype

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and that had every bit as much impactful impact on

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anything as as.

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Speaker 4: What we saw.

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Speaker 3: That had almost as much impact on the Voys rad

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That's what we saw versus here in Vegas, versus the

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procos Brown's Bears look ahead line.

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Speaker 4: There were sevens and seven and a half's out there.

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Speaker 3: My powering number thirty nine and a half the total,

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My powering number came to Chicago eight and a half.

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The markets split last night seven slash seven and a

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half and forty. I wrote, first thing this morning, oh

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look Cleveland money, and then now, oh look, Chicago money

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back up to seven and a half. There were sevens

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and the sevenths have kind of been bought up this morning,

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and now we're seeing seven and a half's forty the

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prevailing total you know, showed us yesterday they're not a

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team you necessarily want to lay points with Miles.

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Speaker 4: Garrett was great.

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Speaker 3: Three Tigers were lost in another sack, but the defense

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got gashed one hundred and eighty four rushing.

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Speaker 4: Yards in that ball game.

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Speaker 3: Garrett quote, I think we were really licking our chops

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for the pass and they stuck with the run, and

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we really shouldn't focused on stopping the run. You know,

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Shadow was a leading rusher, Quinchohn Judkins fourteen to twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Let's than two yards per.

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Speaker 3: Carry yards per play worth Noting Cleveland lost the game, well,

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they had six point four yards per play to Tennessee's

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four point six, and when you win the yards per

477
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,920
play battle by nearly two usually win those games at

478
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least straight up fashion. They were three or three in

479
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the red zone. They hung twenty nine points in the snow.

480
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,279
Let's give Shad or standers credit. You know, three in

481
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,440
sixty four passing yards, three touchdowns, career highs. But the

482
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,599
two point conversion to try to tie the game was

483
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,240
as bad a play call as maybe the Raiders kicking

484
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,240
that field goal. I'm telling you it was brutal and

485
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:57,279
obviously cost Cleveland the game. Speaking of cost in the game,

486
00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:00,240
what about Caleb Williams interception in the end zone in

487
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,359
Green Bay, which twenty two seconds left on a fourth

488
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,000
and one. You can question the play call, you can

489
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:07,920
question the execution. It was not a good throw from

490
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,440
will if he said that after the game. But the

491
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guys has five fourth quarter comebacks this year, all right, Chicago,

492
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,680
even after losing yesterday, believes they can win all of

493
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,839
these games. That being said, are the a team that

494
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,079
we want to lay points with. The defense had a

495
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,559
lot of problems against Green Bay in terms of the

496
00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:29,160
big play passing game. Packers converted an eight to twelve

497
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,200
on third downs. All three touchdowns were twenty plus yard plays.

498
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Speaker 4: They only had one.

499
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Speaker 3: Takeaway, and the Bears, of course been living on takeaways

500
00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,160
this season, and the betting market's very excited to see

501
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,000
Chicago not win the turnover battle and cash Obviously, if

502
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,759
you had the Packers yesterday, a wise guy side, you

503
00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:49,640
got there by the hook, if you got the best

504
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of the number.

505
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Speaker 1: And I will take that after that Broncos game by

506
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,160
the same hook. Let's kind of get into these next

507
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set of games, seady, But before we do, you mentioned

508
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you've got to play up tonight for Monday Night Football.

509
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: Over at wagertalk dot com. What do you have going

510
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:09,160
on within the entire slate of games? And you do

511
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a lot with NBA.

512
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Speaker 1: Obviously, college football only has one game this weekend. Are

513
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you looking for anything for the college football playoff yet?

514
00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:18,279
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, so today's gonna be a big bowl day,

515
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,079
all right, we haven't. You know, we did a little

516
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bit of preliminary work last night. There weren't wasn't a

517
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mature marketplace yet. We decided to table the discussion and

518
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,880
come back today, So we'll just spend some time with

519
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,359
college football. Absolutely, I'm not sure what I'm gonna post

520
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,960
and what I'm not gonna post. You want to be

521
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,079
real sure who's playing if you're going to post this early.

522
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But we'll be working college to football bowls throughout the

523
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court today. I'm not involved in hoops at all today.

524
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It's a very limited card in both the NBA and

525
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college basketball.

526
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Speaker 4: I do like I have.

527
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Speaker 3: An initial opinion on both NBA Cup games for tomorrow,

528
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:51,680
so we'll see where those numbers come out tonight. I

529
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expect to be involved in the association and obviously off

530
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to three and oh yesterday in the NFL.

531
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Speaker 4: The Sunday's have been good.

532
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Speaker 3: I'm ten and four seventy one percent over the last

533
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:01,880
five Sunday so the Sunday's gonna be good. Let's see

534
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,920
if we get the Monday Night to be good again.

535
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536
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537
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538
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,759
want to thank you guys for commenting. The likes, the

539
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540
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541
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542
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543
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545
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: All Right, the game I'm really excited for because I

546
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:39,079
pretty much watched the Bills Bengals game. It was on

547
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,880
red Zone all day long because it was the most

548
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,519
exciting game yesterday morning. They're now headed to New England

549
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:48,839
looking for a little bit of revenge here.

550
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Speaker 2: But we got a split number in the marketplace.

551
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.

552
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: Look aheadline here Pats minus one and a half forty

553
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,440
seven and a half My powering number came pick them.

554
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,759
The markets last night it was more Buffalo minus one

555
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,519
slash one and a half forty nine and a half,

556
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,799
and you talked about it right now. You can take

557
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,799
one with Buffalo, you can lay, you take one and

558
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,920
a half with New England. So if the game lands won,

559
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,559
you're very happy in that instance. But it is a

560
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:25,880
split line, and it's worth noting the quote unquote the

561
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books that cater to the more professional betters are the

562
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ones with New England favored the books that cater the

563
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recreational betters.

564
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: And again this is Monday morning.

565
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,519
Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but right now, at least

566
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,920
at the shots of cater the pros, we got New

567
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,359
England minus one. At the shot that Chad cater to

568
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,640
the Joe's we have Buffalo minus one slash one and

569
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720
a half. And again my number comes pick them. So

570
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,759
from a powering standpoint, I can't give you much in

571
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:54,559
that regard. Those offense didn't punt yesterday. You know, they

572
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,279
hung thirty two and they had to pick six against

573
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,240
Burrow six point nine yards per playing that ballgame. Two

574
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:03,119
straight wins for the first time in a month, and

575
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,279
each week I talk about the team I having a

576
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:08,160
kind of enigma with with my power rating. Buffalo was

577
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that team. This week I spent a lot of time

578
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,799
thinking about the Bills, looking at the course of their season,

579
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,240
trying to decide is this team good or are they great?

580
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,559
What's the upside for Buffalo? Do we want Buffalo amongst

581
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,480
the legit contenders or not. They spent most of that

582
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,119
game looking like they were gonna lose. They got stopped

583
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,440
on downs, the James Cook fumble on first and goal

584
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,599
from the two, but they were able to take advantage

585
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,680
of Bengals mistakes when it mattered most. And that's kind

586
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,000
of the character that the Bills have. I give them

587
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,480
credit in that regard the Pats. They won ten straight,

588
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,880
you know, and then went into a bye week. I'm

589
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,599
not convinced that is a bet on scenario off that

590
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,240
thirty three to fifteen win on Monday Night football against

591
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:48,839
the Giants. You know, it's the longest winning streak since

592
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:53,079
twenty fifteen. Drake may interesting quote, just trying to be

593
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880
the face, trying to be the conductor, trying to want

594
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the pressure.

595
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Speaker 4: You want the ball in my hands.

596
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Speaker 3: A game like this that's likely to come down to

597
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,279
one team or the other team executing down the stretch.

598
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: That a positive quote for.

599
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: New England and Drake may in that regards this kid,

600
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,680
saying I can handle it.

601
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: I want the pressure, all right.

602
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,799
Speaker 1: Interesting scheduling spot for these two teams. They just faced

603
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:22,880
each other on Thanksgiving. Baltimore is now at the Bengals,

604
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and as I mentioned, the Bengals put up a nice

605
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:28,519
fight yesterday there and Buffalo got the cover, had a

606
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:30,319
really good shot there to get the win until it

607
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,039
kind of got away from them late. Let's talk about

608
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,400
this Ravens team, though, Teddy, I don't know what to

609
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:37,920
make of them. You and I discussed last week. Maybe

610
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,319
Lamar's a little bit more injured than we thought. Are

611
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,519
we still on that or what is going on with

612
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,319
this offense?

613
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: Look aheadline here since he.

614
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Baltimore minus two and a half slash minus

615
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960
three was a split line right around the key number

616
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,359
of three total fifty one and a half my powering number.

617
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,319
Has the Ravens won in this ballgame? I've downgraded Baltimore

618
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,359
because of what you said, Kelly. Lamar Jackson is not

619
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,319
right and that was very clear again in the loss

620
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to Pittsburgh yesterday, the markets opened two and a half

621
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fifty one and a half. Last night. We're seeing twos

622
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:18,480
in one and a half starting to pop up in

623
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the markets right now, still two and a half. The

624
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,519
prevailing number total still sitting at fifty one and a half.

625
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,519
So worth noting that Baltimore, again, the key calls went

626
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,440
against the Ravens yesterday. But what do you want in

627
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,200
the locker room after the game. You want the team

628
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,200
saying we're turning the page, We're focusing on next week's

629
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,319
divisional matchup. That's not what we got from Baltimore, where

630
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,599
everyone complaining about the refs, you know, the potential interception

631
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,200
on Aaron Rodgers, the potential touchdown for likely you know,

632
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:54,839
and obviously both those calls went against Baltimore. Coach Harball

633
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,799
still bitching after the game. That's not a positive sign,

634
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Lamar Jackson saying his frustration level is.

635
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: Through the roof.

636
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like with the Thanksgiving game, we

637
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,039
shouldn't have lost that game with turnovers unfortunately, but this

638
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,839
one here, I don't know what happened. I thought it

639
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,519
was a touchdown. The restume of the call they wanted,

640
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,119
they believe it was right. So you gotta go with it.

641
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,599
I can't do the rest job. It is what it is.

642
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,240
I mean, I had Pittsburgh yesterday, and I'll tell you

643
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,279
flat out, I don't win a lot of games outright

644
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:22,119
when the opponent runs for two hundred and seventeen yards

645
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,079
at five point four yards per carry and my team

646
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,359
runs for thirty four yards at two point zero yards

647
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:26,880
per carry.

648
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 4: But Baltimore two.

649
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: To six in the red zone, minus one in turnovers,

650
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:37,279
and the Ravens defense Aaron Rodgers didn't complete a pass

651
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:39,160
longer than thirty one yards, and the whole month in

652
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,799
November he had four of at least that distance yesterday,

653
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,000
plus two more for more than twenty That's a defensive problem,

654
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,160
Anna Lamar is not healthy problem. That being said, Cincinnati,

655
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,680
you know defense is gonna get blamed again. They score

656
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,039
thirty four points and lost again. It's hard to win

657
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:56,559
when you give up thirty nine. It's hard to win

658
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,839
when your decant force a punt. It's hard to win

659
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,599
when you up twenty eight eight team in the fourth

660
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,480
quarter and Joe Burrow turns all over on back to

661
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,480
back possessions, his first turnovers in his four starts this season.

662
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,559
You know He did lead them down the field for

663
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,359
the back door touchdown, but then the defense a lot

664
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
of third and fifteen Josh Allen scramble and.

665
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: That was that Worth noting.

666
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: The quotes coming out of the Bengals locker room past tense,

667
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
those are quotes that don't tend to be bet on.

668
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,839
Zach Taylor just sick for the guys. They more plays

669
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,200
in us down the stretch. That was the game Joe

670
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Burrow quote. Obviously, we are not where we want to

671
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,240
be as a team, arnings or organization past tense. That's

672
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,319
how the cookie crumbled this year. I would have loved

673
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,599
to have been out there more. I would have loved

674
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,039
to make more of an impact, but that wasn't the case.

675
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:42,079
When I start reading past tense quote from a team,

676
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,480
that team comes, it becomes a one way team for me,

677
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,519
either betting against the Bengals or believing the game alone.

678
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,319
And I'll tell you right now, I'm not laying points

679
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,240
with Baltimore, so this is a game I'm not likely

680
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:53,960
to be involved with.

681
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: Kill.

682
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: I can't help but think I need to tease the

683
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Cincinnati Bengals, but that's because I have a teaser addiction.

684
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,759
And we'll get to some more of those seasons spots,

685
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,240
because there's quite a few of them this week.

686
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: No, let's get to the AFC West first. Teddy the Chiefs.

687
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Last night we kind of spoke about this team and

688
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,720
not necessarily their fall from grace, but I think that

689
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:17,279
everybody's been so used to them being dominant over the past,

690
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:21,000
you know, five six seasons that now when they aren't

691
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,920
offensively just blowing everybody's mind, people kind of tend to overreact.

692
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,160
But I do think there are some inherent issues here

693
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,319
with Kansas City Chargers still a sizeable underdog here though

694
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:33,039
on the road.

695
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,839
Speaker 3: Sure are look aadline here, casey four and a half,

696
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,480
forty four and a half my powering number. And again

697
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000
this is after Ken City lost last night, but LA

698
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,599
hasn't played yet my powering numbers three and a half

699
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:45,599
the markets four and a half, forty four and a

700
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,519
half last night, and that's I think what we're seeing

701
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,440
still today. More there's some fours and four and a half,

702
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,720
forty three, forty three and a half. So we've seen

703
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,559
some under money and we've seen a little bit of

704
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,200
Chargers money. Obviously, Chargers now four and once up the

705
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,160
last five they only lost with team before the bye

706
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,519
and at the BACA at Jacksonville. The Chiefs off that

707
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,599
Sunday night lost to Houston. They're now what one in

708
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,640
four straight up for their last five ball games. Kansas

709
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,799
City not a team I'm excited about laying a price with.

710
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't see a world where you want

711
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:18,640
to lay points with this team right now.

712
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,279
Speaker 2: And here's another team.

713
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: All two teams, I'm not sure even what the game

714
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:26,759
we've got the Commanders. I know last week they took

715
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,200
a ton of steam, Jaden Daniels coming back and just

716
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:34,279
Minnesota and JJ McCarthy played their best game of the season.

717
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: New York Giants, I don't know.

718
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,359
Speaker 1: I know they can't keep Jamis in there when they've

719
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,039
got Jackson Dart, but it just seems like it's a

720
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:41,079
lot more fun.

721
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,039
Speaker 2: When Jamis is under center for the New York Giants.

722
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,279
Speaker 3: So Minnesota had a really good game. They blew out Cincinnati.

723
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:49,880
I think it was week three they blew out Cincinnati

724
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,799
where they yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've had other good

725
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,559
games this season. One last thing Rechargers Chiefs. If you

726
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,759
like the Chargers tonight, I wouldn't argue the concept of

727
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,839
putting a little two teamer in there with Chargers tonight,

728
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:08,200
along with Chargers against the Chiefs. If LA wins tonight,

729
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,720
that line is not likely to be four and a

730
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:14,839
half given the circumstances for those two squads. So that's

731
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:19,839
a possible way to maximize your investment. Commanders, look at line.

732
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:21,759
There were minus one and a half. There were minus

733
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:23,720
two and a half's total forty seven and a half.

734
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,559
My powering number has a giants minus one and a half.

735
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,000
The markets opened one and a half two two and

736
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,119
a half last night, forty six and a half for Washington.

737
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: New York. We've seen over money come in. We've seen

738
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,759
the markets.

739
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: They're not settled yet, but I'm seeing more two and

740
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,279
a half and twos than one and a half ones.

741
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,319
But we don't know what's gonna happen with the Washington's

742
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,000
QB situation. James Daniels came back. He did not last long.

743
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680
He wasn't good in his return nine of twenty seventy

744
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,319
nine yards, no touchdowns, one pick, just three point nine

745
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,200
yards per pass THEMPT had four carries for sixteen yards

746
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,720
along a five and each of the last three games.

747
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:02,039
Jamee Daniels has been in for Washington's been knocked out,

748
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:06,400
so you know, Mariona's now one in five as a starter.

749
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,360
He threw a pick and lost a fumble in release

750
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,519
in relief of Daniels. Quote from Terry McLaurin the wide receiver.

751
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,480
When you get beat thirty one and nothing, it's not

752
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:17,880
about offense or defense.

753
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,519
Speaker 4: It's just bad.

754
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,119
Speaker 3: We didn't play any kind of complimentary football and this

755
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,199
is a result. Zach Ertz looks like he had a

756
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,880
season ending injury in the loss. In the full game,

757
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,199
you know, four point two yards for play, three turn over,

758
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,000
an offensive defense forced none worth noting after shutout losses

759
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,079
this year. The Titans won straight up at Arizona after

760
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:41,559
getting shut out of Houston. Many won straight up versus

761
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,119
Washington yesterday after getting shout out the previous week. The

762
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,559
Raiders lost on a miss two point conversion thirty to

763
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,480
twenty nine to the Jags in overtime. Off of shutout loss.

764
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,880
They cover the spread, and the Falcons beat the Commanders

765
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,320
by seven off their shoutout loss.

766
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: That's four and.

767
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: Oh ats this season for teams that got shut out

768
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:00,480
the previous week. The Giants off of th already three

769
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,519
to fifteen loss on one in a football against the Pats,

770
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,000
and that game wasn't as you know.

771
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: It was thirty to seven at halftime.

772
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,159
Speaker 3: That was their seventh straight loss, oh and three since

773
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,719
firing Brian the ball quote Jackson Dart, we're just scratching

774
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,639
and clown. I'm not playing soccer out here. You're gonna

775
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,880
get hit. Things happen. It's part of the game, you know, Dart.

776
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:23,920
Certainly bringing energy to the g men in this point

777
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,519
spread range, energy is not going to be enough. This

778
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,320
is one of those games interesting to consider.

779
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: There.

780
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: There's a case to be made for washing this week.

781
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,039
And whether I get there or that's another question. But

782
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:38,679
there's surely a case to be made for the Commanders

783
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:40,679
off that shutout loss, no show game.

784
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: All right, Teddy.

785
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,679
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things that you talk about is

786
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:48,079
the drop off between whether it's starting quarterbacks, wide receivers,

787
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:51,880
offensive linemen with cluster injuries and so forth. So no

788
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:57,000
Daniel Jones. Now we have Riley Leonard going on the road.

789
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,280
We know how historically rook due in their first road start,

790
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,440
and the pointspread is definitely indicating it's not going to

791
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,880
be pretty for the Colts.

792
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,079
Speaker 3: So I made an adjustment for Indy, and again Danny

793
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,199
Dines was not healthy all right, so it wasn't like

794
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,679
Indy was right when their quarterback was on the field.

795
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,079
It was literally playing with a fractured tibia, broken leg.

796
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,199
I made a four point adjustment to my powering number.

797
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,159
The markets made a bigger one look aheadline here Seattle

798
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,320
three and a half, forty six and a half. My

799
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,000
powering number Seattle nine and a half. The markets opened

800
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,760
tens last ten and a half forty three and a

801
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,960
half last night, and we're seeing eleven and a half

802
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,920
and twelves out there again. A market adjustment between last

803
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,920
week and this week of look headline was three and

804
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,199
a half.

805
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 4: Now we're seeing twelves.

806
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:56,039
Speaker 3: One player got hurt, that's a significant adjustment, and one

807
00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:00,519
injured player got more injured. That being said Eileen Leonards,

808
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,960
no NFL quarterback, you know, seven to one start for

809
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,679
the Colts, one and four. Since the schedule cloll outs

810
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,159
close out Casey Houston, Jacksonville, Seattle, San Franz, Jacksonville, Houston, Oux,

811
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,360
they've already lost the first three quotes after the game,

812
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Alex Pierce wide receiver quote, that's.

813
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,639
Speaker 4: Our team leader, our team captain.

814
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: It's brutal. That'll be the challenge this week. Refocus the pass.

815
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,519
There's nothing we can do. We knew the magnitude of

816
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,079
this game. We needed to win this one. All we

817
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,599
can do is focus on the next one. Obviously, Indy,

818
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,360
they're promising start. They're trading two future number ones to

819
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,559
bring in a cornerback who's now on Indie reserve for

820
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:40,000
a team that doesn't look like they're gonna make the

821
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,079
playoffs anymore. These Colts went all in at the wrong time.

822
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,559
As for Seattle, I mean, second week in a row.

823
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,920
We're getting these special quotes again about this defense.

824
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna worry.

825
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,039
Speaker 3: Quote with Stifens is super special. We got a lot

826
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:58,760
of special dudes on this team, from the first level

827
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,239
of the d line, the linebackers the sameecondary. This defense can

828
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,840
be historic almost the return of safety Julian loved, the

829
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,960
return of the defensive tackle Jiron Reid. This defense is

830
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,119
healthy right now. After the shutout of Minnesota, all they

831
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,800
did is hold Atlanta to three field goals. You know

832
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,400
that being said, Seattle's won ten games. Nine of those

833
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,719
ten wins have come against the quarterback who entered the

834
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:28,400
game ranked outside the top twenty in QBR, there's still

835
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760
a question as whether the Seahawks defense is as good

836
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,599
as they've looked because they're facing bad offenses over four

837
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,679
because they're actually that good. That being said, the Colts

838
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,199
won't have a QB in the top twenty QBR in

839
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,519
this one. Seattle's defense could be poised to dominate once again, Teddy.

840
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: When I saw this line pop yesterday, I thought, WHOA

841
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,800
what am I missing here?

842
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: You know, the Broncos.

843
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,559
Speaker 1: Everybody has been joking about them winning the Super Bowl,

844
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:54,760
And as a Broncos fan, I said, Okay, everybody calm

845
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,360
down just a smidge, but the Broncos have played really well,

846
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:01,000
actually at home.

847
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: Now they are a home underdog to the green Bay Packers.

848
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,079
Speaker 3: Yep, look ahead line here was. There were pick'em's, There

849
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,280
was green Bay minus one. There was green Bay minus one.

850
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,679
Speaker 4: And a half.

851
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,679
Speaker 3: My powering number, I thought, a total of forty seven.

852
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,920
I'm sorry, a total of forty two.

853
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: I read that wrong. My apologies.

854
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,079
Speaker 3: Sometimes my twos look like sevens number five. So there

855
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,519
was pick one and one and a half for green Bay,

856
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,239
total forty two. My number for the game came pick them.

857
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,960
The Packers opened one and a half two two and

858
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,679
a half last night, total of forty one and a half.

859
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,719
We've seen over money come in significant over money in

860
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,159
this ballgame. Forty two and a halfs, forty three, forty

861
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,000
three and a halfs out there and green Bay clearly

862
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,840
the favorite minus one minus I'm sorry, minus two minus

863
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,760
two and a half. There's a couple of ones out

864
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,519
there for the pack but the markets have said Denver

865
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,760
des there to be home dogs in this one. Jordan

866
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,199
Loves looked pretty good, you know, through the four touchdowns

867
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:00,679
again Thanksgiving in Detroit, through three more yesterday. You know,

868
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,000
three thousand yards this season twenty two t d's only

869
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,639
four I n t's Packers worth noting, and you're worry

870
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:08,559
about with green Bay is gonna have that same intensity

871
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,400
this year. Green Bay went one in five in division

872
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,960
last year. They're four to oh in division this year,

873
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,000
including a win yesterday. Josh Shacobs, that was the biggest

874
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,920
thing we wanted to harp on in the offseason was

875
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,320
divisional games. We know how important they are. This is

876
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,280
not a divisional game for the green Bay Packers. That

877
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,239
being said, the Broncos just won ten in a row.

878
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,199
You know they have a tie breaker with the other

879
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,599
eleven and two team in New England. You know, yes,

880
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:37,119
the back door was left open yesterday ball game, but

881
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,800
they had thirty nine plus minutes of possession.

882
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 4: Bow Knicks dinked and.

883
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: Dunked his way effectively all game, thirty one completions, one

884
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,960
hundred and fifty two rushing yards to forty for Denver.

885
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,719
They're a really good team, bow Knicks quote. Ten in

886
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,360
a row is a long streak. You want to be

887
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,239
appreciate of this opportunity and appreciate of the winds now

888
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,559
matter how they come. At the same time, we're always

889
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,559
looking to get better. Again, my number comes pick them

890
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,719
for this, which tells you, guys that on a neutral

891
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,159
I've got Green Bay as the better of these two teams.

892
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,559
But the Packers, you know, up and down a level

893
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,880
of competition every single week, it feels, and Denver's kind

894
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,440
of the same way.

895
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: This should be a good game.

896
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a good game.

897
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,519
Speaker 1: I think it's a great teaser spot here, Teddy, especially

898
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,079
with a lower total.

899
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: I just locked that one in.

900
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's move along to well, A game that just got

901
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,880
a lot more interesting for Kelly on bet on it.

902
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: This year.

903
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,559
Speaker 1: I gave off the Panthers to win the NFC South.

904
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,880
They're off a nice win over the Los Angeles Raiders,

905
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,840
sayings off that nice win. We already discussed over the Bucks.

906
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,519
Speaker 4: Yeah. The Panthers off a win against the.

907
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: Rams, I'm sorry the Rams.

908
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the bye week by week, which you know,

909
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,960
we'll talk about it just a minute. Look ahead line here,

910
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,599
Carolina minus two and a half, thirty eight and a half.

911
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,559
Speaker 4: My powering number came Carolina three.

912
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: The markets opened two and a half thirty nine and

913
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,840
a half last night, and we're seeing a split. They're

914
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,599
two and a half and their threes out there right now,

915
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,199
total of forty half.

916
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,119
Speaker 4: So we have seen some over money.

917
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,559
Speaker 3: And maybe that's warranted given the New Orleans actually had

918
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,519
an offense that looked okay.

919
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:07,079
Speaker 4: Yesterday.

920
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: Bryce Young had a really good game against the Rams.

921
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:13,239
You know, youngest player in NFL history to have eleven

922
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
game winning drives in the fourth quarter overtime, passing Josh

923
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Allen in that regards Ted McMillan talking about, but Bryce

924
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Young in close games, his demeanor, his aura when it

925
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,559
comes to late drive is contagious. The proof is in

926
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:26,119
the putting he's under Now, what do you say eleven

927
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:28,239
times that the fact that your leader on office can

928
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,639
do that.

929
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: Speaks volumes for sure. You know, I do worry.

930
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,079
Speaker 3: About the big win and then the bye week for

931
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,760
an immature team like Carolina, But I don't worry about

932
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,199
it that much.

933
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: It's a negative, but it's not a crazy negative. Tyler Shuck.

934
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,119
Speaker 3: Now two and three as an NFL starter After the

935
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:49,800
win yesterday, I don't know if you want New Orleans

936
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,639
necessarily off a win.

937
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,159
Speaker 4: Is this team gonna put winning strikers winning streaks together?

938
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:54,559
Kellen Mora.

939
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,559
Speaker 3: Guys have had a lot of adversity this year. They've

940
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,639
grown through this dural journey. Tyler Shuck. We could beat anyone.

941
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,280
When we're alling out, we're beating ourselves knowing how close

942
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,960
we've been in some of these losses. How you can

943
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,880
flip it on its head and we'll produce these big plays.

944
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,039
We get those wins. So Saints are clearly playing better.

945
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Saints are clearly on a modest uptick. Carolina clearly the

946
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,079
better of the two teams. The spot is still the question.

947
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Okay, another great teaser spot. Just my opinion for what

948
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,960
it's worth low total. Divisional game.

949
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: Here's a game that I think it's going to be

950
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:29,320
very interesting.

951
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: The Lions off that Thursday night football win over the

952
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,199
Dallas Cowboys, and I would say it was pretty dominant

953
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360
fashion their teddy. I know a lot of people were

954
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
starting to buy onto the Cowboys and that was definitely

955
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:44,280
the time to sell. They're now playing that RAMS team,

956
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,239
which we just mentioned was off that loss to the

957
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,639
Panthers and took it out this last week on the Cardinals.

958
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,039
Speaker 4: We've been short on emergency betting. Elder, it's on this show.

959
00:43:52,159 --> 00:44:01,079
Speaker 3: There's one that I need to give right now.

960
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: One and a half. My powering number comes Rams only

961
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,119
three and a half. But the market's.

962
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: Really really like this RAMS team right now four and

963
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,280
a half, fifty two and a half. Last night, we've

964
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,639
seen nothing but Rams money. We've seen nothing but over money.

965
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:15,360
Fifty four and a half still out there in the

966
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,199
betty market place for the total if you like the

967
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,760
over bet the over right now, mostly fifty five is seen.

968
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Fifty five and a half turned a pop, Rams taking money.

969
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,679
There were four and a halfs now, there were fives

970
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,440
and then five and a half. There's still a four

971
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,440
and a half's out there, but leading indicator books already

972
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:32,480
up to six.

973
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: On the LA Rams.

974
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: The Rams bounce back win yesterday has them in a

975
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480
year where everybody seems flawed.

976
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: The Rams are now.

977
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: From a futures perspective of Rams and the teams to

978
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,440
beat in the n f C. So we're seeing Rams money.

979
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,800
We're seeing Over money first thing on Monday morning. If

980
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,960
you like either of those two, bet that sooner rather

981
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,599
than later. You know, Lions have extra prep time off

982
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,440
the Thursday games the last two weeks. Dak Prescott five times,

983
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000
you know, Jared Goff, going back to LA quote, you

984
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:10,840
can see an uptick in urgency from everyone.

985
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 4: You know, we're known in this quote.

986
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: I like to coach in the opposing coaches Brian Schottenheimer,

987
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:17,800
seemed like every time we got some momentum, they hit

988
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,360
another explosive play. They have a lot of speed. The

989
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,800
Brian Branch injuries worring everyone for Detroit. Brian Branch pro

990
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,760
bowler safety who got hurt, and of course Thomas Harper,

991
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,000
who was filling in for the other pro bowler, Kirby.

992
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:31,840
He left the game as well with a concussion, so

993
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,079
potential injury concerns for Detroit in the secondary, which is

994
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:38,599
not necessarily what you want against Matthew Stafford. Again, the

995
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,840
quote from the opposing coaches, Jonathan Gannon from Arizona after

996
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,760
after the loss yesterday, quote, give credit to LA. They

997
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,599
were better than us in every fast of the game. Coaching,

998
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:49,800
playing offense, defense, special teams. That was very humbling. At

999
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,639
one point, it's ten to ten, You look up, you're

1000
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:52,719
down a lot of points.

1001
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: Quick.

1002
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,599
Speaker 3: Five hundred and thirty net yards for the Rams yesterday,

1003
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:59,480
two and two and twelve yards from Williams decorum on

1004
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:02,199
the ground. Stafford his seventh game of the season with

1005
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,440
three or more passing touchdowns, most in the NFL. That

1006
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:07,559
was a dominant showing for the Rams.

1007
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,119
Speaker 4: Now three and oh straight up and against the spread.

1008
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: Off a loss, the markets saying LA is a team

1009
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,639
to beat in the NFC right now.

1010
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: All right? Yesterday, Well least, let's go back to last week.

1011
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: Last week we talked about motivation and how franchises might

1012
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,760
want teams to tank, but teams don't want teams to tank,

1013
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,360
at least the players don't. And the Titans showed a

1014
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,079
lot of fight yesterday.

1015
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Now they're headed to San Francisco. Do you think that

1016
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,880
this is those types.

1017
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: Of wins where bad teams, if you will, the Saints

1018
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,840
the Titans can capitalize off a win and take it

1019
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,159
to the next game.

1020
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: I worried more about a letdown than a carrier effect

1021
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:44,840
we got.

1022
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,679
Speaker 3: You know, you're struggling. You're struggling, you're trying to get

1023
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:48,400
to win. You finally get to win. Oh yeah, let's

1024
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,760
celerate well part of tonight and then the energy for

1025
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,440
practice on the next day is and quite what it

1026
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,800
should be.

1027
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 4: In the effort on the field, it's quite what it

1028
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:54,960
should be.

1029
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm not anticipating the bottom feeders to suddenly come alive

1030
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:04,760
and reel off December winnings. Weeak it happens, but I

1031
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,440
don't know the Tennessee is that team. Look headline here,

1032
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,800
Sam Fran minus twelve and a half forty is seven

1033
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,119
and a half my powering number, sorry, forty two and

1034
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,039
a half. I gotta be more careful with that. Twelve

1035
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,159
and a half forty two and a half. Titans Niners

1036
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,920
my powering number, San Fran twelve. The market's open twelve

1037
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,639
and a half forty three and a half. We have

1038
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360
seen over money come in for this one. Forty four

1039
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,079
and a half now the prevailing number, although leading indicator

1040
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,000
books are pointing under now on the forty four and

1041
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:32,199
a half, so there's no urgency.

1042
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,079
Speaker 4: If you missed it, you missed it. Tennessee finally and

1043
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:36,360
off of the game plan that made sense.

1044
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,039
Speaker 3: There are all these games don in this year where

1045
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:41,840
Tennessee was dropping their rookie quarterback the past forty times

1046
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,559
and handing them ball over twelve oh yesterday thirty five

1047
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,480
carried one hundred and eighty four yards Tony Pollard a

1048
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,280
huge game, and cam Ward fourteen to twenty eight for

1049
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,639
a Bucks seventeen. Nothing downfield at all, that's fine. They

1050
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:54,280
were still out gained by one point eight yards for

1051
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
played by Cleveland. First win for the interim head coach

1052
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,239
Mike McCoy in seven games. Know Cedric Gray, the linebacker quote,

1053
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,400
we hadn't won since Week five, so it feels amazing.

1054
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
I'm not worried about the number one overall pick. We're ballplayers.

1055
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:13,119
We got heart every time we step on the field.

1056
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 4: They did, they showed up. I don't know if they

1057
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,480
can do it again in San Franz.

1058
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,039
Speaker 3: And then you know, when you talk about it off

1059
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,719
a win now, traveling across the country facing a good team.

1060
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: If things go south, they could go really south.

1061
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,119
Speaker 3: Of course, the forty nine ers off at twenty six

1062
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,119
to eight win at Cleveland and a bye week. Shanahan

1063
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000
off of by three and oh straight up and against

1064
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,199
the spread the last three years. That being said, the

1065
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,480
previous five years only two and three straight up, two

1066
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,960
and three against the spread. It has not historically been

1067
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,280
his or the niners best role.

1068
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: All Right, Sunday Night football this one. We mentioned the

1069
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,960
Minnesota Vikings earlier and how they've had a couple of

1070
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:54,679
nice wins this year, yet they're almost a touchdown underdog

1071
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,639
here at Dallas.

1072
00:48:55,679 --> 00:48:58,039
Speaker 2: Who's looking to bounce back after that Thursday night football?

1073
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at line here in Dallas minus seven total

1074
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,239
forty seven and a half.

1075
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: My powering number comes Dallas six and a half.

1076
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,159
Speaker 3: The markets opened six six and a half last night

1077
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,239
forty seven and a half. And we've seen a little

1078
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,320
bit of Minnesota. There are more six is today than

1079
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:15,920
six and a half.

1080
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: Last night. There was more six and a halfs than sixes.

1081
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: But it's not like the Markets has done a whole

1082
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,679
lot in this ballgame side or total. The Vikings entered

1083
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,880
yesterday's game having twenty two consecutive possessions without scoring a touchdown,

1084
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,880
and they put up touchdowns yesterday. McCarthy, McCarthy, three of them.

1085
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,559
Speaker 4: When they can run the football, McCarthy is fine.

1086
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,079
Speaker 3: You know. They were thirty four for one SI's two

1087
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,000
on the ground and yesterday's game and in theory, you're

1088
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,719
supposed to be a little run against Dallas. The biggest

1089
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,800
problem for Minnesota this year has been turnovers. They entered

1090
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,119
the game with the league worst minus fifteen margin yesterday

1091
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,079
and yesterday the offense didn't turn them all over at all.

1092
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:57,440
The defense four is three, you know, so certainly positive

1093
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,920
signs for Minnesota, but you worry again about a bad

1094
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:05,000
team off an xcal win Dallas minus three churners against

1095
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,119
a Lions extra time to repair. Defense allowed four touchdowns

1096
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:11,079
of five red zone possessions. Seedy Lamb check his status.

1097
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:13,440
He did suffer concussion in that ballgame. But they were

1098
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,320
selling for field goals.

1099
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1100
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,199
Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey sixty three from fifty five plus and five

1101
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,400
all together, then the first kicker in NFL history to

1102
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,760
make three from fifty five plus in a game. The

1103
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,920
Dak Prescott quote is worth noting after the loss quote.

1104
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:31,039
These guys aren't deflated right now. They are pissed off.

1105
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,400
We just need to use that the right way as

1106
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,960
fuel for the rest of the season. Dallas now sixty

1107
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,159
six and one. They have no margin for error when

1108
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:43,280
it comes to playoff possibilities in an NFC where it's

1109
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,000
going to be tough for.

1110
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 4: Dallas and whatnot.

1111
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: I think number ten right now, you know there's Detroit's

1112
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,760
not even in the playoffs as the season ended today.

1113
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,079
Dallas got some work to do. They know it, and

1114
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,039
they're saying the right things in that regard off the

1115
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:57,599
loss to the Lions on Thursday night.

1116
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: All right, before we get into Monday Football right now,

1117
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,880
you can join Teddy covers for college football and NFL

1118
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,800
right night, right now over at wager Talk dot com

1119
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,199
WT dot Buzz. He also has a Bowl special if

1120
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,280
you're looking just for those sides of things one forty

1121
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,800
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1122
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:23,239
Teddy Covers Monday Night Football. I'm looking at it right

1123
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,480
now on the odd screen. It's going to be interesting

1124
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,480
because this is kind of a cheap line and it

1125
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:29,000
kind of was one of those other ones that stood

1126
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,400
out to me. The Miami Dolphins off a nice road win,

1127
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,119
Pittsburgh Steelers beat their divisional rival of the Ravens.

1128
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: Talk to me about Monday.

1129
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: Night football A cheap line. I thought it was too

1130
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,599
much at first glance.

1131
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,199
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I feel like.

1132
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like, cheap as in fishy. I

1133
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,920
should apologize. WHOA, that seems a little I thought it

1134
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,800
was a little cheap. I thought, okay, that makes me

1135
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,920
want to be all over the Miami Dolphins.

1136
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 4: So look at line here.

1137
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,119
Speaker 3: There were threes and three and a half for the

1138
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:01,079
Steelers total forty one and a half. My powery number

1139
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,320
only comes Pittsburgh one and a half, and the markets

1140
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,199
opened three and a half last night forty two and

1141
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,280
a half. We've seen a little bit of Miami money,

1142
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:10,400
but the three and a half are largely holding. There's

1143
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,639
a couple of threes out there. That being said, my

1144
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:16,400
parenting number says one and a half, and I feel like,

1145
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,920
if you'll like the Dolphins, Dan, let's do one more

1146
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,239
of these emergency betting others.

1147
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 4: Before this show is through. Like the Dolphins, sooner rather

1148
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,159
than later.

1149
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,039
Speaker 3: Grab a three and a half right now, it's not

1150
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,440
going up. It can only come down. And again my

1151
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,519
Parmery numbers is one and a half for this ballgame.

1152
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Rodgers eight point four yards were passing no picks yesterday

1153
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:41,800
actually the game quote. And at least maybe you guys

1154
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,719
got the hell up for a week, you know, yesterday

1155
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,360
he didn't. Again, he didn't have a pass longer than

1156
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,760
thirty one yards for the whole month of November. Yesterday

1157
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,119
had four thirty one plus and then two more twenty

1158
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:56,000
yard passes, twenty seven points in a game with the

1159
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,199
Steelers gave up two hundred and seventeen rushing yards and

1160
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:02,679
at seventeen care for thirty four yards themselves. You don't

1161
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,440
usually see those type of issues or those type of

1162
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,400
performances from teams that have those type of numbers. So

1163
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,800
Pittsburghday's win against Ravens, I'll leave it at that. Dolphins

1164
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,280
last year started two and six, then went six and

1165
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,519
two the next eight. This year started one and six,

1166
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,119
now they're five and one the last six and again,

1167
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,039
when you rush for two and thirty nine yards on

1168
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:27,400
the ground, and you do that in the NFL, you win.

1169
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:28,960
When you go four to four in the red zone,

1170
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
like Miami did yesterday. When you do that, you win.

1171
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,239
With the defense forces three turnover Dolphins has none. When

1172
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,239
you go in the NFL, you win. They want a

1173
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,800
cold other weather game. Last year in Cleveland, they won

1174
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,880
a cold weather game yesterday in New York. So there's

1175
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,920
certainly hope for Miami in a cold weather game. Here

1176
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,599
to a tag of Lowe quote, I don't think I've

1177
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:50,840
been in the league where I've had a stretch like

1178
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,840
this one in terms of the start of the year

1179
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,800
and finding that flow towards a later end of the season.

1180
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Miami feeling like they have a flow right now. Pittsburgh

1181
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,440
coming off a tough, hard fought and maybe a little

1182
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,360
bit lucky divisional win and laying more than a field

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goal in early betting action this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff as always from Teddy Covers at

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Teddy Underscore Covers. You guys can catch him here on

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the opening line Report, you can catch him on wager

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Talk today, and he's been doing a great job on

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Endzo Live with the pres on Sundays. Get you guys

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all that live betting action for the morning slate. Teddy,

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thank you, We'll see you next week. For you guys,

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waiting around. Wager Talk today with Andy Lang and Dan

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Alexander is up next.

