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<v Speaker 1>It's nice size.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston's news radio. Welcome back Tangwae filling it for Ray Tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Six seven two thirty is a telephone number joining us

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<v Speaker 3>right now is one of the great guys. Uh Tony

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<v Speaker 3>V is our guest. He's hot off a huge gig.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do? Just take the private plane back

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<v Speaker 2>back from Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's exactly what happened. I'm on the ninety three

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<v Speaker 4>noise coming from the Sons of Italy and Quincy one

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<v Speaker 4>of the others, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sons of Italy, Hall and Rumford, Maine where I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up, which you've probably played at one point.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary, you know, I know he said we weren't going

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<v Speaker 4>to do bits or anything, but I actually have a

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<v Speaker 4>bit about the Rumford, Maine Sons of Italy. We're here.

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<v Speaker 4>I get a call and someone says to me, don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to work the Sons of Italy and Rumford.

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<v Speaker 2>May you're kidding me?

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<v Speaker 4>And I go, no, no, And this is nearly a

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<v Speaker 4>true story. I mean it's ninety eight percent true, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And and I go, no, that that'd be fine. I've

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<v Speaker 4>you know, those people need to be entertained, and so

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<v Speaker 4>that's not the weird price. Then they go, do you

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<v Speaker 4>need the address? And I go, no, I've been there

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sons of Italy Hall, which I think my uncle,

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<v Speaker 3>my uncle Frank Geronda belonged to. Yeah, the son of it,

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<v Speaker 3>across the across the doorway, it was Sons of Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like all one word. They didn't have any

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<v Speaker 3>spaces in between the words. That's what I just remember.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and let's be honest, how many Sons of Italy

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<v Speaker 4>are there in and maybe your uncle and his buddies.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, here's the thing Tony is. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>the North End. Okay, I'm not going to tell you that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will say this. Rumford was a milltown where

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of immigrants came to work. So you had

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<v Speaker 3>an Italian section which was Smith Crossing, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>the baseball field at the time was called the Spaghetti Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was right across from the Suns of Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so you had the I mean, it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>but my mother was Irish. The Irish lived in one section,

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<v Speaker 3>the Italians lived in another section, the French lived in

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<v Speaker 3>another section.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell Tony, I assume you're Catholic. Rumford was so get

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<v Speaker 2>a load of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Rumford had a French Catholic church on one side of

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<v Speaker 3>the street, and right across the other stride of the street,

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to God was an Irish Catholic church.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure of course we can't be mixing those two Catholics.

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<v Speaker 3>And when my uncle married who was Irish, married my

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<v Speaker 3>aunt who was French, his father said, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>it was blasphemy. Why don't you marry one of your own?

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<v Speaker 4>That's how crazy it was, aren't you glad we lived

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<v Speaker 4>through that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? I mean it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Nuts Tony, I want to I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>like why all you guys are great, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're funny as hell, Lenny's funny as hell, Sweeney Rogerson,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Donnie Gavin, and then of course Dennis Leary

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<v Speaker 3>he's Worcester, but will include him, Uh, we'll let him slide,

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<v Speaker 3>like Burr Leno, Stephen Wright. What is it about Boston

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<v Speaker 3>or this area that generates great comics?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you know, for the very reasons we've

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<v Speaker 4>been hinting at. Is you know this Boston's like a

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<v Speaker 4>microcosm of the whole world. In a very condensed area,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, like everything you just

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<v Speaker 4>said about Rumford, Maine is exactly the same as here

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<v Speaker 4>in Boston, where we have you know, and we're separated geographically,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can dump on any other part of the

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<v Speaker 4>city and have somebody laugh about it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 4>everyone you just mentioned, we all came from similar backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, working class, probably the first generation of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my mother was born in Italy, my dad was from Portugal,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, so I think we all grew

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<v Speaker 4>up with a crip on our shoulders.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm trying to say, Gary, Yeah, but you but

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<v Speaker 5>it's but like, okay, it's very do you think let

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<v Speaker 5>me ask you this then, do you think you can

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<v Speaker 5>teach somebody to be funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you just have to have the gene in

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<v Speaker 3>order to to move on and do what you did?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? It's it's a you know, I've I have

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<v Speaker 4>uh done stand up classes before, and I am uh

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<v Speaker 4>I say right up front, like, look, I can't make

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<v Speaker 4>you funny, but if it's in there, I can drag it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of you, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so I think you just I think it

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<v Speaker 4>comes from you know, uh have an a skewed view

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<v Speaker 4>of the world and not taking it off too seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it also comes from as it also comes from pain.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we understand that, you know, Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So why.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do it?

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<v Speaker 4>I listen when when I was on a completely different path.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, I am college into the comedy connection

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<v Speaker 4>many many years ago, and I met the guys who

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<v Speaker 4>would you know started you know, I thought eons before me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was actually about six or eight months, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I found I found my tribe. I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that I've met a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 4>who think like me. Because in the in the other

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<v Speaker 4>in my other world, it was like people would look

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<v Speaker 4>at me and go, what why would you joke about that?

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<v Speaker 4>And I go, because that's how I cope, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that a lot of it became a

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<v Speaker 4>coping mechanism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I's how that's how I.

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<v Speaker 4>Come, that's how I cope, That's how I try to

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<v Speaker 4>make sense of it by making fun of it. And

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<v Speaker 4>oftentimes we end up making fun of stuff that's very

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<v Speaker 4>data to us, you know, and people don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I get mad when people you know, try

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<v Speaker 4>to uh, you know, cancel people or whatever for saying

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong things. It's just our coping method. That's really

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<v Speaker 4>all it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You You sometimes you joke about the things that can

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<v Speaker 3>hurt you the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most, that can hurt you the most, therefore you take

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<v Speaker 4>the power away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, exactly, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you talk about that in your class or is

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<v Speaker 3>that just something that happens Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I mean I try to point that out,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's funny. I've taught or mentored a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>people who are on the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah and yeah the man Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>They come in and it's like, well, I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 4>you know too, you know, to try to show people that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that I'm I'm regular, I'm normal, whatever phrase

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<v Speaker 4>they use. And I always say to them, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>lean into it. That's what makes you unique, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>that's what colors your world. That's what your point of

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<v Speaker 4>view is, and it's and it's needed and necessary from

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<v Speaker 4>people that understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Amy Schumer, have you met her?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I did a movie with Amy Schumer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh which one did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I did? I feel pretty oh right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>With Oh God, was what the guy from SNL and

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<v Speaker 3>at Bill who did Barry?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember anyways, I digressed, but but.

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<v Speaker 4>But but I played, I was I was the uh

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<v Speaker 4>dry cleaner in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Her husband is. She's talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's part of the reality show, right, Her

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<v Speaker 3>husband is on the spectrum and.

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<v Speaker 4>Or on the spectrum. And he's a chef.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a chef. He's a great chef. And she

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<v Speaker 2>says he's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, And I don't know why people want to

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<v Speaker 4>deny that. I don't understand, you know, coming from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you want to deny the thing that makes

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<v Speaker 4>you funny? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because she says he because he speaks the truth and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no filter and there's no filter and she goes

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<v Speaker 3>and he is just simply hilarious. So that's an interesting take. Tony,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just getting started. We got a lot of we

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot more to do. Tony v is with us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about just comedy in general, talking about his life, economy.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a ton of stuff to talk to him about,

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<v Speaker 3>including his big appearance on Seinfeld when he looked like

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<v Speaker 3>he was like seventeen years old. That's all coming up

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<v Speaker 3>on wbz's night Side. Now back to Dan Ray live

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<v Speaker 3>from the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio,

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Tangway for Danton and I talking about his life

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<v Speaker 3>in comedy. Tony v is joining us, and I want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you my brief experience with stand up.

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<v Speaker 4>You get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried it because I did two open mics. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I did two open mics, and this is god. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in my twenties. I was doing some sports radio.

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<v Speaker 3>And what a lot of people don't know is when

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<v Speaker 3>I got out of college, I was doing sports. And

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<v Speaker 3>I love acting, as you know, because we've been actually

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen each other on the sets and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>love acting, but sports was always I got opportunities to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, and I made money and I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to live.

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<v Speaker 2>A very good life and it was easy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was fun. Yeah, it was good at it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you came out, you did the show with us and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I've always written I love acting, and

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<v Speaker 3>so when I was trying to figure it out, I

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<v Speaker 3>bounced back and forth through New York. I went down

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<v Speaker 3>and took some classes in New York at HB Studios

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff in my twenties, you know, when they said

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<v Speaker 3>find your inner animal. Ever done that Tony in an

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<v Speaker 3>acting class?

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<v Speaker 2>Find your inner animal? Like roll around on a floor

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<v Speaker 2>like a wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>So I, oh, there you go, Okay, same deal. So

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, I'm going to just try to

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<v Speaker 3>stand up because I just wanted to try it. And I,

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<v Speaker 3>as they say, I did something at Remington's an open

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<v Speaker 3>mic at Remington's by the Alleys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, did Darty's room, the Comedy Vault.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did like ten minutes and I killed Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>I killed, really I did. But and then I did

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<v Speaker 3>another one at the Conquered Inn in Conquered Mass, different

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<v Speaker 3>different crowd. I crashed and burned, hard bombed. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was one of those nights where you know they had

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<v Speaker 3>a guy playing the guitar. It was like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like it was like not just comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were doing poetry, you know, any right of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what it did teach me though, was I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't want to put into work like

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay. Because I talked to some guys

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<v Speaker 3>that night. It was very I mean guys would like notebooks,

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a dedication to stupidity that most people

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my buddy and I we were close to put

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<v Speaker 3>And anyway, so I met We met with Norm at

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<v Speaker 3>and he and he said sometimes it would take six

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, easily, it can take that easily.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the process? What do you do? Tony?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know I tell people this all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an old saying about someone was tigging to a sculptor. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>The same with with jokes or a bit. You start

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<v Speaker 4>points that hit that get the laugh, that that make

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<v Speaker 4>condense everything. And sometimes it takes work and work and

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<v Speaker 4>work to find the right wording. And sometimes a joke

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<v Speaker 4>my students all the time is, you know how you say.

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<v Speaker 4>What you say is important as what you say.

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<v Speaker 4>having a good set then you go, I'll throw something

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I did a brand new piece tonight and it went

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<v Speaker 4>fairly well, you know, so so I'm now I'm jazzed

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<v Speaker 4>about that piece and I'll find it. I'll find a

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<v Speaker 4>way to make that work, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, how do you deal with bombing.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta you know, uh, you gotta just realize it's

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<v Speaker 4>not it's not you. They're rejecting. It was this that

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<v Speaker 4>set that night. You know, you can't take it too

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I think makes you decide whether you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go on out like I Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 3>bombed at the Conquered In.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so if we go back and we analyze that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I I was funny at Remington's for ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>for ten minutes, which how long is you're set?

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<v Speaker 2>An hour?

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<v Speaker 4>I did? I just did about fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm doing ten minutes like to write, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>ask you, I'll get to how long it takes to

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<v Speaker 3>do to come up with fifty minutes. But like so,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I go to the Conquered In and I bomb,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say, you know, I don't want to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't. I don't want to put in the work.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I was a comedian, I would go, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the concored in. You know, they're drinking, they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a different crowd. It's them, not me.

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<v Speaker 4>Different crowd, right, right, so I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Go like Larry Miller, like, Larry, did you ever work

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<v Speaker 2>with Larry Miller?

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<v Speaker 4>I did work as Larry Miller. Yeah, yes, with him

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>So he tells his story, right, he flies into some

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<v Speaker 3>place like des Moines, Iowa. And and I say this

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<v Speaker 3>with all respect, this is the story that he's dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>But and it was a state police convention. So he

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<v Speaker 3>goes in and just before the police, just before they

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<v Speaker 3>announce him, they do a moment of silence for a

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<v Speaker 3>trooper who's for a trooper who's passed away. All due respect,

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<v Speaker 3>all due respect to law enforcement. I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>that's not funny. But his point was, Okay, we just

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<v Speaker 3>did a moment of silence about a guy who passed

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<v Speaker 3>away that these guys know. Now I got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Out and be funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like I'm screwed, like I got no shot,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's like, oh yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to me, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You come back from that, you want to do it

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<v Speaker 3>like you you you know, you just that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't want we're hinting at here, Garry it's

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<v Speaker 4>a sickness more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a lifestyle, not a job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, no, you have to buy into the lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you if you can't, I won't a don't,

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<v Speaker 4>then your road's going to be long and windy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think go ahead to interrupted.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, I've had those moments. I've done

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<v Speaker 4>charity events for like you know, uh, I won't say

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<v Speaker 4>which children's hospital, but eight Children's hospital where I would

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, like, whatever you do, please don't bring

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<v Speaker 4>me up after the sick Kid video, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know there's going to be a sick kid video

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<v Speaker 4>because we had to raise buddy. But if we could

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<v Speaker 4>just do something after that, And sure enough they show

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<v Speaker 4>the video. The screen's going up. Everybody's crying, including me, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and they go and now the comedy stylings of Tony

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<v Speaker 4>V and you know where you know what, And I

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<v Speaker 4>just remember getting up on stage and going, hey, anybody

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<v Speaker 4>want to strangle a puppy before I get started?

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<v Speaker 3>got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta run with it.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta do something. Yeah, you gotta do something, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to let them know that, you know that you have

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, you have to break that spell because

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<v Speaker 4>it could be got awful. And I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 4>how many times that's happened. It happens more times than

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<v Speaker 4>I care to think.

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<v Speaker 2>About, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And and the thing that people don't understand is everybody

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<v Speaker 3>bombs leto everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody bombs at Sweeney's movie when Sweeney did it. You

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<v Speaker 3>were funny as hell in that movie, by the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, Sweeney killing Sweeney.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes funny. You guys are hilarious, you guys. And you

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of ad libs in that movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you were funny as hell. So after there was like

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<v Speaker 3>a I don't know, I mean, but like I talked

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<v Speaker 3>I did a movie like I'm gonna really name drop here,

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<v Speaker 3>but this past spring, uh Ella McKay.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is coming out next spring.

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<v Speaker 2>James L.

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<v Speaker 3>Brooks directed I Get to play a Senator. So for

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<v Speaker 3>a week, Yeah, for a week, I'm on the set

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<v Speaker 3>with Jamie Lee Curtis and Albert Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I got and this she's gonna be a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Emma Mackie. She was one of the barbies,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's a star of this. So and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with with James L. Brooks, he shoots everything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he takes forever. He takes for ever, but he can

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<v Speaker 3>because he's James L. Brooks. And and then of course

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<v Speaker 3>you know I have I have like two lines and

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<v Speaker 3>so but I'm there for the week because he just

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know what he's gonna do. So I we

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<v Speaker 3>get in the van and I got you gotta say,

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<v Speaker 3>and Albert Brooks jumps in with us, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, this is Albert Brooks. Like, I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>legend right and like you and like all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Lenny or whatever. We're driving and he's just he's

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<v Speaker 3>commenting on on different people along the way. And I

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<v Speaker 3>could have said the same thing he's saying and no

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<v Speaker 3>one would laugh. But he says it, and and and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's like, oh it's Albert Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta laugh. I mean he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like when we went through securities, all he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, security, He goes if he goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he said something like, if we were a bunch of terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>would be screwed. You know, it's just funny. So the

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<v Speaker 3>point about Albert Brooks I want to make is I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it. Did you see a special with rob Ryiner?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? You got to watch it, Tony, you gonna It's

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to watch it. You got to watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>So he just like, you know, because he wasn't everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, he was a very strange cat, a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Strange cat, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And and so Rhiner goes, you know, how did you

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<v Speaker 3>handle it when people didn't laugh at you? Because he

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<v Speaker 3>would keep going, and he said, I just believed that

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<v Speaker 3>they were wrong and I was right, and eventually they

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<v Speaker 3>would come around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the smartest thing I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's arrogant as hell, but that's what, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>he was a little avant guard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he did different. He wasn't the mainstream.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I just I've seen old clips. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I remember seeing them in real time, but just recently

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<v Speaker 4>seeing some old clips. And he was out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like he does the talking the talking mind,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, which he also did a ventriloquista where you know,

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<v Speaker 4>his mouth was you know, he didn't pretend at all, right,

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<v Speaker 4>he was a right right, Yeah, it was a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit Andy.

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<v Speaker 3>Kaufman, Andy Kaufman another one. I never got him. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get it. I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not everyone does.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He was great on taxi, but the whole Tony whatever

446
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<v Speaker 3>thing and the whole wrestling, Yeah, I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this isn't funny to me. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what made it funny to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know Norman, Yeah, Norm was kind of like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know who else Larry David.

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<v Speaker 2>Larry David do you did you do you?

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<v Speaker 4>David would? I worked with him a characterizing star in

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<v Speaker 4>the early days, and he would go up and sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>purposely eat it just to see if we can get

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<v Speaker 4>himself out of a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Jezus, he's nuts. Yeah, if you wouldn't laugh, and he'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>screw you, I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving. Yeah, it walked all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I we got more, Tony, can.

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<v Speaker 6>You hang on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I can do one more?

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<v Speaker 1>Break?

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<v Speaker 2>You got it all right, Tony V's we got more

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<v Speaker 2>stuff coming up. Tony V.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us talking about comedy. I have more questions for

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<v Speaker 3>him on trying to be a comedian in today's day.

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<v Speaker 2>Na. That's next on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's

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<v Speaker 3>news Radio. Thanks a lot, Al Gary tangling for Dan

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<v Speaker 3>tonight up until midnight, Tony V. The Life of a Comedian,

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us right now, Tony, how do you stay politically

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<v Speaker 3>correct and don't get canceled?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? You know, I try to stay away from the

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<v Speaker 4>whole politics thing. H You know, I have my opinions,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, unless something is like a major story

477
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<v Speaker 4>and I can find my spin on it, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I leave it to people who know what

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing. And you know, political stuff is uh for

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<v Speaker 4>a love comic especially, it's rough because you know, most

481
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 4>of that stuff is tackled every night by people who

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<v Speaker 4>really know if they do it, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 4>Kim O and Colbert and Bill Maher and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I, I you know, sometimes you can you know

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<v Speaker 4>something you're passionate about something, it'll it'll bleed through. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, well I'll tell you, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 4>My only one political sort of thing right. This second

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<v Speaker 4>is that I find odd and worth mentioning, is that

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<v Speaker 4>the Department of Government Efficiency. Yeah, has two heads.

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<v Speaker 3>All you have to say is Department of Government Efficiency.

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<v Speaker 3>And I laughed, Oh my god, it's oxy moron.

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<v Speaker 1>Charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's see, did I do we lose Tony? He's

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<v Speaker 2>still with us?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool kid. How did you end up on Seinfeld?

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<v Speaker 4>That was a weird circum was out there in l

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<v Speaker 4>a Uh. I did the nineties a fair number of

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<v Speaker 4>guest spots on uh sitcoms, sink and you know, things

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<v Speaker 4>that were popular at the time. Uh Unhappily, ever after

501
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<v Speaker 4>I did a couple of episodes of that. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading for something and someone had seen me

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<v Speaker 4>at the the Laugh Factory. The guy that was the

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<v Speaker 4>talent coordinator for Seinfeld, just by coincidence, had seen me

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<v Speaker 4>do a Tuesday night set at the Laugh Factory, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading for something else. I think I was

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<v Speaker 4>reading for Boston Legal or whatever that show. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a drama and it was quite right to

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<v Speaker 4>me or whatever. But Simeon was in the same complex.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in the same bungalow, you know, and I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there going over my line for Boston Legal and this,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the casting director comes by and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't I just see you on Tuesday night? I go,

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<v Speaker 4>I was there, blah blah blah, and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're done here, come around the corner. We have

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<v Speaker 4>something I think you might be right for. So I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it was literally that quick. Then I finished

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<v Speaker 4>up the audition there and realized that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>went okay, and they go, you know, we'll call you

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. And then I go around the corner.

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<v Speaker 4>They tell me to sit, They give me the lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I go in. Everybody's eating lunch, you know, they you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because they're working straight through, and you know, I do

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<v Speaker 4>it and they go ahead, that was good. Could you

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<v Speaker 4>wait outside? And I go yeah, And I'm sitting there,

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00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 4>and then more guys go in and they come out

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<v Speaker 4>and they leave, and then eventually I'm sitting there by myself,

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00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I go, this is either really good

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<v Speaker 4>or really.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, right right right.

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<v Speaker 4>There's something going on that's leaving me the only one

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<v Speaker 4>in here. And then literally they came out and they go, go,

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<v Speaker 4>move your can a lot. We're gonna start rehearsing.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. That's a thrill. That's a thrill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It was great. It was great and one of

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<v Speaker 4>the one of the happiest sets I've ever been on.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they were everybody was. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 4>on top of the world. You know, they were heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. They would have a Sunday wagon come on

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<v Speaker 4>a Tuesday afternoon on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who doesn't, Oh no kidding. I was on an

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Sandler set.

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00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I was on an Adam Sandler set once, and they

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<v Speaker 3>literally they brought around banana splits or Sundays or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, ok, god, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was a whole Sunday cut. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember it all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Final question, Tony, and I know you gotta go. Who

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<v Speaker 3>is the best stand up comic in your opinion ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, other than yourself? Is it Carlin? Is it Carlin?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Prior?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Prior. I love I

553
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 4>loved Carlin too. I go back to Lenny Bruce as

554
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<v Speaker 4>the like the five of what we end up doing, right,

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00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like without Lenny Bruce, I

556
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<v Speaker 4>couldn't be doing what I'm doing right, There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 4>about it. But for pure just enjoyment and moving the

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00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 4>art form along. I gotta go.

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00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Pryor he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Something else man. Yeah, I mean unbelievable, just unbelievable. Tony

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for joining us. We know you work tonight, You're

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<v Speaker 3>up late. I know you need, you need your sleep.

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00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I gotta I got it. You know you don't maintain

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<v Speaker 4>beauty like this on six hours sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, kid, you go, Tony C. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 3>Tony V Ye Tony C played for the Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony V. Thanks buddy, by the way, any time.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it, Buddy, take care bye, Okay, we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>you later. He's one of the great ones. He's just

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<v Speaker 3>such a good guy, just a really good guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Steven Aha jameson Rhode Island. You guys are gonna wrap

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<v Speaker 3>up the show for me. Coming up next to you

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<v Speaker 3>on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Nice Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Studios on WBZ News Radio special.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Tony V for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>You worked tonight, uh and was kind enough to take

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<v Speaker 3>some time and to talk to us about the life

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<v Speaker 3>of comedy man. It's a special talent. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>the most difficult talent out there. It takes years months

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<v Speaker 3>to write a set. I mean you you know you

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<v Speaker 3>hear Mark Maron has talked about it. Nor McDonald's talked

585
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>about it. Tony says, sometimes longer than six months to

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<v Speaker 3>write a joke, to write a whole set fifty minutes,

587
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<v Speaker 3>six months, seven months, eight months, that months a year,

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00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>and you got to do it every day. And the

589
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>great ones make it look easy. I think it's harder

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<v Speaker 3>than singing. I think it's harder than acting. I think

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00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 3>it's the toughest art for him. Before we say so long,

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<v Speaker 3>let's grab some calls. Stephen theahot has been waiting. Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>you're up on wbz's night.

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<v Speaker 1>Side, Hey, or how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Steve? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Would it help you to know that I was driving

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<v Speaker 1>home from the game when I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Steve in the hot Steve, what's up though? How

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<v Speaker 2>you doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great, great to hear you. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>driving and I heard her I'm a button pusher. I

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00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>heard Tony be on and I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>something about Tony V. Not only is he ridiculously talented,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is an incredibly good guy, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>when he's on stage that comes across. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the audience is predisposed. Once you like the guy,

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00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you're predisposed to liking the material. You want to like

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<v Speaker 1>the material, and then Tony he delivers the material as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, you know, you can't divorce the two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with him because he is such a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>When he talks about the charity things. I have friends

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<v Speaker 1>that run charity stuff and they always want to get

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<v Speaker 1>Tony v because he never mails it in and he

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a performance every freaking time. I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>a billion times. I'm sure you have two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Steve, and I know you're a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of comedy in writing too and so forth. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just remember him when he used to, you know, do

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<v Speaker 3>the big old thing. You know, I can't even remember

620
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<v Speaker 3>what Glenn did. The whole banquet, oh god, oh the whinies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was great, he hosted that. He was great,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And you're right, he is just a good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's no doubt about it. He's he's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good dude, so our Celtics tonight's game, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>give me your thoughts, because I had it on in

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<v Speaker 3>here in the studio watching him, and I thought, Okay,

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00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 3>the Bucks maybe you know, they had a slow start,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe they're going to make a statement tonight. So

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<v Speaker 3>what'd you think of the end final six minutes Celtics

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<v Speaker 3>took over.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh you're telling me that you were watching the game

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<v Speaker 1>while you were working. That was That's unprofessional.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's totally unprofessional. You know what. I've been brainwashed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're just a good multitasker.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you have to be, kid, But boy, what

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<v Speaker 2>a game tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the stretch there was the Celtics had started to

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<v Speaker 1>go to isoball, which was hurting them, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the ball started moving. I just tweeted out

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half hour ago or so

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<v Speaker 1>that people are going to look at Jason Tatum's fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>points in the last quarter, but the three assists he

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<v Speaker 1>had down the stretch were huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the point of stuff that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a team like the Celtics, with the depth and

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<v Speaker 1>the talent they have, it makes a team like the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics unguardable.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people could talk about, you know, the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>in Minnesota and and and I felt bad for Tatum

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<v Speaker 3>because for people who don't appreciate the game, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he didn't shoot well in the finals last year,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what are you talking about? The guy

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<v Speaker 3>he got defensive rebounds. He was unbelievable. He was a

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<v Speaker 3>complete team player, and that just I hope he's appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Jason and sy Jalen Brown should have by

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<v Speaker 1>all rights split the finals. MVP agreed because teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the past had loaded up on Tatum and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>handle it well. But the fact he did handle it

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<v Speaker 1>well in the finals and through all the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>added that to his game made him. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>took him to another level as a player. And trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>the people inside the NBA know it. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics lost to the Warriors two years prior because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they ganged up on him and they made him bring

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<v Speaker 1>you loading up on him because he was bringing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to the floor and took him in the Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>out of the game in a lot of ways, Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>should have won that series, those finals. But the growth

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<v Speaker 1>and his game is what you know, was huge in

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<v Speaker 1>them winning the championship last year. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Tony Z.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well come on, Steve, I had to. I just I

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<v Speaker 3>had to grab your opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. Thank you so much, have a great holiday and thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>For calling Gary b Well, okay, bro, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it, Steve, take care of yourself. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go to James and Rhode Island. James, you're up

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<v Speaker 3>on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you any buddy? Well, see from the Haunt.

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<v Speaker 6>That's gotta be Steve Bullpatten.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is, and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to out him, but he's the great pat,

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<v Speaker 3>the legendary basketball writer for years with the Herald.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll out him anytime. This is James Montgomery from the band,

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<v Speaker 6>a good friend to Tony V's. I just want to

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<v Speaker 6>agree with you that it is the most difficult job

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<v Speaker 6>in show business. You know, I've had a band for

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<v Speaker 6>fifty three years. I can't have a bad night because

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<v Speaker 6>I've got four other musicians up there who are playing

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<v Speaker 6>along with me. But stand up comedians up there all

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<v Speaker 6>alone and I remember an episode of Johnny Carton where

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<v Speaker 6>Rodney Dangerfield is going. You know, Johnny, Johnny, you know

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<v Speaker 6>I bought a huge car. My wife's dress was in

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<v Speaker 6>the back seat. But anyway, I remember him saying that

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<v Speaker 6>even though people come to his nightclub to Dangerfields to

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<v Speaker 6>see him, and he's told him the same material that

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<v Speaker 6>goes over big one night and big the next night,

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<v Speaker 6>but on a particular night, he bombs in his own

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<v Speaker 6>nightclub with his own material and material that he knows

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<v Speaker 6>that it works. It is the most difficult job and

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<v Speaker 6>show business. And I love Tony V. He's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 6>And congratulations for him for continuing to deliver night in

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<v Speaker 6>and night out.

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<v Speaker 3>James, I think I've talked to you before you did

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<v Speaker 3>play in Roxbury, Maine, right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>I did, and I got burned by the promoter and

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<v Speaker 6>I got paid in Moose Steaks.

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<v Speaker 3>I do remember the conversation Clytie Thomas, I played basketball

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<v Speaker 3>with his son and Evelyn.

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<v Speaker 2>This is small town stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Clytie Thomas and his wife Evelyn, which I think later

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<v Speaker 3>became his ex wife. She was our high school. She

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<v Speaker 3>ran the office at the high school. But James, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember that, and I told you this before. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>that concert you turn the whole area upside down.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like Woodstock for that small town. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And like I say, whether or not, there were

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<v Speaker 6>two promoters. One claimed, the other guy left and I

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<v Speaker 6>got paid in Moose Steak.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that story. Just crazy. Hey, James, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a nice holiday.

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<v Speaker 6>Tony be unbelievable, and I thank you for having Tony Beyond.

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<v Speaker 6>He's one of my favorite comedians ever. And thanks for

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<v Speaker 6>having me. And you also have a wonderful holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you got it, James, We'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, actually I remember that James Montgomery

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<v Speaker 3>band played in Roxbury Main, which was on the other

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<v Speaker 3>side of the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>From where I grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Roxbury Main probably has one hundred and twenty people

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<v Speaker 3>in it, and I lived in a town called Fry,

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<v Speaker 3>Maine at the time, which doesn't exist anymore, had eighty

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<v Speaker 3>people in it. And Claudie Thomas's field was it's so

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<v Speaker 3>crazy next to the Naps and the Naps. Richard Knapp

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<v Speaker 3>was also our garbage man and I went to school

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<v Speaker 3>with his. When the Montgomery Bank, everybody was like naked

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<v Speaker 3>swimming in the Swift River. You swear to God like

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<v Speaker 3>the growing up thought, like you know Satan was taking

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<v Speaker 3>over the town. Hilarious, Hall hilarious. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Clytie Thomas paid him in mistakes not surprised. Boy, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a memory. Well, it's been a great show. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>having me in, folks, I really appreciate it. Marita Laros

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<v Speaker 3>a great job. Rob Brooks outstanding job as always, taking

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<v Speaker 3>care of business. Dan is going to be back on Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>I assume. So it was a blast talking. We'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to thank psychologist doctor Gregory Jance for joining us. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Globe film critic Odie Henderson was a blast to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to him about holiday movies and just hold in

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<v Speaker 3>movies in general. Watch Conclave today, Man Ray fines unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't even get a chance to ask him

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<v Speaker 3>what he thought about Wicked. I'm sure I can just

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<v Speaker 3>google it and read his review. And thanks to the

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<v Speaker 3>great Tony V for joining us right here on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 3>So folks have a nice holiday, be safe, chill out,

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<v Speaker 3>be kind to one another. Turn I just turn off

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<v Speaker 3>the politics every once in a while because Bill Flaherty

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't want you to turn off the news because

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<v Speaker 3>that's WBZ, but just chill out on the politics once

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<v Speaker 3>in a while. Okay, dance back next time, Rob, thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for helping out. Good night from WBZ Dan Ratio
