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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Iron the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me

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<v Speaker 2>today is Dave Silver. Eventually we'll have Kobe in with

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<v Speaker 2>us later. But we're looking to have a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>show today. Interesting story or not story, interesting day, nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things going on. Big game tonight, big

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<v Speaker 2>basketball game. I would venture to guess you are not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go. If I'm not gonna go, You're a smart man.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll be awake, I hope. Oh yeah, Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>the hope. That's the hope of everybody in that arena.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not had too many nine o'clock starts, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe two or three since I can remember, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember much now, but yeah, nine o'clock. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a late start. You get out of there by

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<v Speaker 2>midnight until thirty for me at least. Yeah, and a

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<v Speaker 2>big game too, should be good. I mean, Baylor's coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>They're one of the top teams in the conference and

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<v Speaker 3>in the country as well. Ranked ahead of the U

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<v Speaker 3>of A. You know, there's Scott Drew. They've they've had,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some some good history in the last decade

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's national championship. Yah, not too long ago. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know. We're gonna have Bryce Cherry

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<v Speaker 2>on the show with the fourth seventeen time timeframe today

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<v Speaker 2>and he's the sports letter of the Wake Coach Tribune,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he covers the team directly. I did

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<v Speaker 2>not make the trip. You know, why would you want

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<v Speaker 2>a nine o'clock But I'm wondering, and this may be

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<v Speaker 2>a question for you two, that Baylor, like Arizona at times,

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<v Speaker 2>lives office its reputation. You know, it's history. This is

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<v Speaker 2>all Baylor. We're coming. They're good, well, not not always,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And eversone gets that too.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets a benefit of basketball. Arizona all they're good,

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<v Speaker 2>but not always.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much though, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right. I mean there are some teams that death

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<v Speaker 3>we have reputations, and Baylor is going to be one

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<v Speaker 3>of those types of teams from this conference that people

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna think about and maybe worry about a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>More and maybe maybe it's not warranted this year, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're off to a pretty good start. They've had a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of losses to some great teams. Their record has

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<v Speaker 3>been tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they also takes took a loss, a big

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<v Speaker 2>loss here and there, I think, a big points. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I can remember can Zaga until Big twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just sit there for down by. Kobe is here.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're good. Yeah, So we'll see what happens. They're good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to say the top twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>is good because Arizona is all giddy for knocking off

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<v Speaker 2>two top twenty five teams. Yeah, and they're all not

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<v Speaker 2>that good. Yeah, you know, they're kind of backed in

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five like Baylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Arizona's kind of hoping to get in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe I thought with those wins they'd have

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<v Speaker 3>a chance. But you know, I think people are more

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about where you are in March than you are right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, right of course, And that's the smart way to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it, right. A lot of games left, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 2>I had yesterday one of my guys who who I

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<v Speaker 2>trust in and listened to sent me a text. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you did you listen to yesterday, No

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<v Speaker 2>shame on you. But I he texted me and said

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<v Speaker 2>that the rant by Tommy was scripted. He knew exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what he wanted to say. He was scripted. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>going in that this was his message, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like this is I kind of give

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<v Speaker 2>you grief in a good way, Dave, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you take it this way. You're a good dude, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're just a good dude, and there's no bad thing

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<v Speaker 2>out of that. But it's like you probably yelling at

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<v Speaker 2>your kids and guys. You know what I'm saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>be mean. You can't be mean. You're too good of

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<v Speaker 2>a guy, So you know what I'm saying. That was

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy the other night saying these guys, you know, pounding

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<v Speaker 2>the table. Okay, but you're not really mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I heard the comments, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I heard them actually live it read about on the

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<v Speaker 3>next morning. My first thought again was to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to loot and how he used to do that in

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<v Speaker 3>the media all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He used the media all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>He would go post game and he'd go postal on

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<v Speaker 3>some of the players and you knew it was just

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<v Speaker 3>a message he was sending. And these guys are like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know McDonald's all Americans, are all Americans in college

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<v Speaker 3>and they're hearing their coach.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, rip them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they know it's a psychological ploy. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy is you know, feel kind of the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Sean did that a lot. I think Sean did

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<v Speaker 2>it more with his words and his eyes where he

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<v Speaker 2>would send messages through us to get to his players, right,

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<v Speaker 2>all the while saying we don't read you guys, of course, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the word, Well maybe mom and dad, do

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<v Speaker 3>you know or somebody somebody in the family does that

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<v Speaker 3>they can relay the message. And that was to think

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<v Speaker 3>about how looted that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was social media. Who doesn't who doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>to a bond the story?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean TV on Twitter and something's on you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your guys websites or the newspaper website and it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you know so, they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Not picking up the newspaper, they're just clicking.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Sure, yeah, we don't read you, wink wink.

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<v Speaker 2>And he kind of you could have said that that's

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. You media guys are the ones that are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the blah blah blah well, which means to

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<v Speaker 2>me that he's actually paid attention. Yeah, you know, why

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise would he say that? But uh, interesting stuff, especially

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<v Speaker 2>for Tommy mild manner. Tommy was not so mild matter.

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<v Speaker 2>But but again, if you're a like you, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>nice dude. Dave. I've never seen you mad, not that

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<v Speaker 2>I hang around with you all the time, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen and you got mad. I'm thinking, Dave, really, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get mad? Well, I do sometimes, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. But you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a reputation for being the way they are,

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<v Speaker 3>especially the way they are in public. And all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, you know, Tommy's you know, getting upset publicly,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, in front of you guys and in

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<v Speaker 3>front of you know, players and their families and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Who are going to read that. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit disconcerting a little.

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<v Speaker 2>But as uh as I was he was, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the front row I usually typically am, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>right there and he was doing this, and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>in my head, interesting that I'm nodding, and I'm nodding

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of he's responsible and I'm writing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he's anymore and kind of fingering the table, look like

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<v Speaker 2>puting the table, and I'm kind of that I'm laughing inside,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of laughing outside too, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is interesting and this is kind of funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I asked him. He says, you haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>this very often? Can you count the times? And he

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<v Speaker 2>says that doesn't matter. You know, that doesn't matter because

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<v Speaker 2>you know I'm telling you now, you know this is

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<v Speaker 2>about our season. Yeah, yeah, which should makes it even

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<v Speaker 2>for better stuff. Yeah, you know, because he's ranting with

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<v Speaker 2>great quotes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as I was watching it at home too and

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<v Speaker 3>watching that lead disappear again, I'm thinking, oh, here comes

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<v Speaker 3>the the November Wildcats again, not the January Wildcats. The

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<v Speaker 3>way they were giving up those leads, and I could

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<v Speaker 3>you could tell the frustration he took kle about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't know, eight or nine minutes left and

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<v Speaker 3>again when the when when you see I started pressing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>things kind of started to unravel a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was lolly Kegan again he fell back and

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<v Speaker 2>threw a ball away and then fell back in a

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<v Speaker 2>ball or whatever. Yeah, and yeah, he just can't. And

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<v Speaker 2>and directly I would assume that he was talking to him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't have you. I don't care who

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<v Speaker 2>who you are, what you think you are. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I just can't. Yeah. And the two sons

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<v Speaker 2>who will follow the Cats say that every day at

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<v Speaker 2>the TV. Right, what do you do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he had you know, he did have a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good stretcher in the last month or so, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess maybe the last couple of weeks. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>there was that there was a moment on that in

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<v Speaker 3>that game when they basically gave up the lead again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and your thought is like, what, you know, how are

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<v Speaker 3>we gonna how are they going to stop this?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's the problem I have, Dave. If you show

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<v Speaker 2>these tendencies now and you have been in the recent past,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the last six weeks, whatever, what's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that at some point in March that ugly head won't

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<v Speaker 2>show right? Well, that's that's that's the way that every

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<v Speaker 2>season is going exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you go, let's see Bala's missing free throws

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<v Speaker 3>again last year. Well, that's going to come back to

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<v Speaker 3>haunt and in March.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember, you remember Cali party back in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine, I think was when he took his

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<v Speaker 2>team to the finals and the biggest question for Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>was can you hit free throws? Oh, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an issu you We're gonna be fine. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you hit the issues? As you went through the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>white run to the tournament, got to the finals, tight, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was and it's not gonna be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what happened. Yep, it was a problem. It continued.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't just stop. Calendars push it away. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>wish it away. Yeah. So so here they are. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see if Arizona can just hold court home home games,

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<v Speaker 2>win some home games in the in the Big twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be okay. What okay means I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can't lose him home the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're gonna definitely have some confidence going into tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume, knowing that they played well, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have you know, they'll have the home crowd. Are the

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<v Speaker 3>students back out of the students back in school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so the students should be you know, returning. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>little more enthusiasm and michale from before, even if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a late night start.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because tomorrow's your first day, right, Yeah, class to

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<v Speaker 2>start tomorrow. They'll be there. They're not going. They're gonna steep,

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<v Speaker 2>get some resk, go to class tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, because they've been waiting for this game. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the marquee games on the schedule for sure, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Kobe looks at me like, shut up, old guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going you go to the game. I'm so Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Bert Williams mean you know of him from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're in University of Arizona athletic fan. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>there's three guys that have done that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Lou had his gray hair too. You think God looked great. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you look to say you have been changed,

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<v Speaker 2>Well I have, but you just don't know. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna be on We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>What did it take you for you to do something

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>No, just to do something like that's not you. That

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah in front of fourteen thousand people, know, you knew

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you can do it and no one would know

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we'll see what happens with that tonight. So

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<v Speaker 2>that should be fun. And again I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the the game more in the second hour with

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<v Speaker 2>had the Minnesota sounds good. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've never been a big Rams fan, not

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<v Speaker 3>that it matters if you're a fan of but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to three. I mean, they're not coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>The fans were pro Vikings. It was it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was pro Vikings. I thought it was pro LA. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Chris said it was more LA than you said.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a home game for.

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<v Speaker 3>LA, but it was a it was a home game,

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<v Speaker 3>and they set it up as a home game. They had,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's more you're saying, there's more Minnesota?

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<v Speaker 4>Did They said it was fifty one percent more vik Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so it was, you're surprised, and people thought it

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a lot of people from that area of

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<v Speaker 2>the country than La here, although the fires will probably

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<v Speaker 2>bring a ton of people from yeah, from there to

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<v Speaker 2>come here and get some houses. Yeah yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean did it feel it was like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand? How many people were in that building? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was something like that. They solder like real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you had to sell that thing in

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<v Speaker 3>what three days basically? And people I saw that the

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<v Speaker 3>rams bust over, like thirty buses of season ticket holders.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know, they loaded them up that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday morning, and I hope they didn't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>The Yeah no, but that's a good bus ride going

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<v Speaker 2>and coming and going back is gonna be fun?

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<v Speaker 4>Or was?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And they all they flew Then the Cardinals sent out

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was a good gesture by the by

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<v Speaker 2>the Bidwells. Yeah, so we'll see they needed some good pub. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>See what happens next year when everyone says, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when the Cardinals come to La you know we should

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<v Speaker 2>Something to thank them. Yeah, right, right, Hey, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>Down all the x is at OHS.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me

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<v Speaker 2>today is Dave Silver and now we have a long

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<v Speaker 2>time you a basketball fan and a sports fan, Bert Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>Burt how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Excellent? How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well? Are you did you get take a nap?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? I'm ready for tonight. I can't wait. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't wait, but I'll probably go to sleep because it

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<v Speaker 4>starts at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I say, you know, I had to take

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<v Speaker 2>a nap just to get ready. We're gonna probably get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here about eleven and eleven thirty. But you,

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<v Speaker 2>you and your your buddies have something planned.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we really do. And we have a we have

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<v Speaker 4>a demand that's come up rather uniquely, and it goes

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<v Speaker 4>back a number of you. It goes back twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty five years ago we had a situation that that

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<v Speaker 4>was happening in the Pac twelve pack ten actually, and

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<v Speaker 4>we responded, and now we can't seem to get out

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you well, go ahead and explain what it is

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll ask him questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay. Well, I've had season tickets at basketball and

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<v Speaker 4>football for fifty two years, and so it's been very

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<v Speaker 4>evident that the University of Arizona Michale crowd and basketball

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<v Speaker 4>fans are very knowledgeable in basketball and the referees got

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<v Speaker 4>really bad in the nineties, in the early nineties, and

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<v Speaker 4>that was Booker. Turner was one of the headrest and

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<v Speaker 4>he was great, but then they promoted him to be

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<v Speaker 4>in charge of of the referees. And it's a case

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<v Speaker 4>of the you can reach your point of diminishing returns

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<v Speaker 4>and you were really great as a referee, but not

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<v Speaker 4>so good as a supervisor of referees. And the referees

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<v Speaker 4>went down badly, and all of the fans that mikhale

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<v Speaker 4>knew it. And there happened to be one game I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember which one it was, but it was in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety nine that the fans. All three of the

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<v Speaker 4>refs were really, really bad, and the fans were on them.

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<v Speaker 4>They were standing up almost the whole game, yelling at them,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was so such a crazy situation. They were

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<v Speaker 4>shouting ugly words at them and everything. And I just

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<v Speaker 4>sat there in my chair and I looked up and

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<v Speaker 4>there were people standing all around me like trees. I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't see anything except as the ceiling above me. And

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<v Speaker 4>I looked up at the ceiling and I said, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh, those guys looked just like three blind mice

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<v Speaker 4>and then the vision that I got was of three

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<v Speaker 4>guys dressed like referees with Rachel's sunglasses, walking hand on

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<v Speaker 4>shoulder down on the floor, with the lead guy using

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<v Speaker 4>a kne It leaped into my mind. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>the last game of the season, and I thought about

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<v Speaker 4>it over the summer, and I went out and bought

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<v Speaker 4>the equipment and when the game when the season started

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<v Speaker 4>the following year, the year two thousand, I said to

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<v Speaker 4>Floyd Settlemeyer and Bud and Oreo. There are two guys

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<v Speaker 4>that sat next to us. We're on the fourth row,

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<v Speaker 4>right across from the Wildcat bench. And I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>told the guys what I wanted to do. And I said,

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<v Speaker 4>if you guys don't want to do it, I'll find

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that will. And I said, wait, wait, wait, we

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<v Speaker 4>want to do it. We want to do it. And

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<v Speaker 4>so we waded through the preseason and we waited for

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<v Speaker 4>a big game and lo and behold, it happened. It

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<v Speaker 4>was either UCLA or Stanford, and we did it. And

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<v Speaker 4>we were just totally blown away. It was so much

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<v Speaker 4>noise from the fans and they were taking pictures, they

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<v Speaker 4>were shouting, clapping, patting us on the back and it

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<v Speaker 4>was fun, and then we realized that we had kind

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<v Speaker 4>of struck a chord with all the fans and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, the interesting thing was that we noticed

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<v Speaker 4>that the fans immediately stopped yelling questionable things at the refs,

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<v Speaker 4>including all manner of crude things and four letter words,

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<v Speaker 4>and they started laughing and they were actually laughing and

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<v Speaker 4>having fun, and the blind refs were getting the point

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<v Speaker 4>across better than all the screaming and yelling. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of where we sit today, and we have

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<v Speaker 4>sat for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bert, when you go to the game, are you

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<v Speaker 3>in uniform or do you change you know inside McHale somewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>How does it your day?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll put on the striped shirt and then I'll

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<v Speaker 4>wear a jacket over the top to tonight's wear Red Night.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll wear my red jacket with my striped rough

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<v Speaker 4>shirt on underneath, and I'll carry a clear translucent bag

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<v Speaker 4>that would have my my Mickey Mouse ears and my

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<v Speaker 4>cane and my Rachearl sunglasses in it. And I never

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<v Speaker 4>have any problems getting that stuff in. So fortunately, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you did you when you first did this, or

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<v Speaker 2>even now, did you have to ask for permission, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we talked about the man is the man,

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<v Speaker 2>God rest his soul, and now you guys who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of do this?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we we just did it, and all of the

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<v Speaker 4>athletic directors and all of the staff have loved it

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<v Speaker 4>ever since because it's it's fun, you know. And the

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<v Speaker 4>interesting thing is that there have been We've had about

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<v Speaker 4>a dozen true referees that I've talked to, and they

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<v Speaker 4>remark that they really like the gig. They laugh about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've only had one of the referees say anything negative,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was one of the worst of all the referees.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess the truth can hurt, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>we just sort of do it, and we're very cautious

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that we follow the rules. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 4>the rules, we can only go at a four minute

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<v Speaker 4>time out sixteen minutes twelve eight four in each half,

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<v Speaker 4>and we can only go if the refs are bad.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not going to go out and try to be cute.

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<v Speaker 4>We only go if the rest are bad. We only go.

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<v Speaker 2>If the game is close.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's going to blow out, even if the refs

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<v Speaker 4>are bad. We don't go if we're way way ahead,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not a closed skiing. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be bad sports and we only go if a bad

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<v Speaker 4>call is made against the cats at a four minute

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<v Speaker 4>time out and the fans are enraged. And so it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's a little complicated and we try to watch what

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<v Speaker 4>we do and follow the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you have you mentored any of the next generation

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<v Speaker 3>to take over when the mice when the mice have

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<v Speaker 3>decided to.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone else going to pick up? Yeah, well we're we're

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<v Speaker 4>charging a three thousand dollars initiation fee. No, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>using no Budden Oreo and Floyd Settlemeyer bless his heart,

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<v Speaker 4>as he was the chairman of the board for PEMA

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<v Speaker 4>Savings and he passed away, and we replaced bud Or.

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<v Speaker 4>We replaced Floyd with with Floyd's grandson, Jordan Emerson. He's

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<v Speaker 4>with the Attorney General's Office. Budd and Oreo had to

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<v Speaker 4>retire because of having some issues with walking, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what's coming up with me and UH and so we've

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<v Speaker 4>we've got some changes going on in that regard. Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Reiner replaced Richard Berger when Richard passed away, and Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Reiner is a retired fire captain of the Tucson Fire Department.

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<v Speaker 4>So and just recently we we brought on Jeff Hamstra.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the president of Hamster Heating and Cooling, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to replace me as I retire after twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>years on this running this puppy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a marketing guy. Have you done this or what?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not know? Have you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? We did actually, and I made about one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>T shirts and and we we tossed them out to

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<v Speaker 4>people just for free. And I'll bring you I'll bring

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<v Speaker 4>you some T shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, Yeah, that's fine. We can get to Dave and

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<v Speaker 2>I David, I'm an extra large just so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't fit at any small same thing. So let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask you. You're I don't want to. You can

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<v Speaker 2>divuld your age if you want, but you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all these ages here. You said twenty five years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were a young man when you decided to

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<v Speaker 2>do this, and now you're well whatever you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll be eighty in a month. I mean sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>eighty one in a month. I'm eighty now and I've

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<v Speaker 4>had some problems walking with hip replacement surgery and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. So I've just decided that it's time to

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<v Speaker 4>bring on more things and more guys. And Jeff Hampshire

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<v Speaker 4>is a terrific guy, and he's anchored. He has a

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<v Speaker 4>family business here in town, heating and cooling, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>just a solid guy. He supports the Wildcats. He is

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<v Speaker 4>a very strong member of the community, does a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of charitable work. And so all of us are here

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<v Speaker 4>to have good times, support the cats, stand and stand

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<v Speaker 4>up for them, and do whatever we can to make

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<v Speaker 4>things work. Support uh, support Tommy, support all the everybody

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<v Speaker 4>up and down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>You've become very popular with a lot of the guys

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, you're close to him. I know Miles. Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Othick just posted something on my Facebook page when I

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<v Speaker 2>announced that you were coming. So how did that relations

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<v Speaker 2>should start with most of them?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm not sure which which individual are you talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About, Miles, Miles Simon, you know, Aja, Matt Athic, those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well, oh my gosh. We we used to

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<v Speaker 4>we used to have the Miles and his buddies and

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<v Speaker 4>their girlfriends. They used to come out to our house

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<v Speaker 4>and they play a little golf and have some fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, I just dearly loved Miles and I was

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<v Speaker 4>his Kevin Flanagan was was mom and dad were friends

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<v Speaker 4>of hours back in the nineties, and and then mister

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<v Speaker 4>Flanagan said to me one time, he says, we need

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<v Speaker 4>to bring somebody else to hang out with us. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, who's that and he said, well, it's

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<v Speaker 4>Miles Simon's dad. So we got the older Simon to

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<v Speaker 4>start hanging out with us. And I'll never forget one

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<v Speaker 4>time I got a call from Walt Simon and I

625
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<v Speaker 4>was having a bad week. It was really tough. You know,

626
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<v Speaker 4>you're in business for yourself and you have good days

627
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<v Speaker 4>bad days, and it was a really bad, really bad

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<v Speaker 4>month actually, and he said, well, I want you to

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<v Speaker 4>stop what you're doing right now, get in your car

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<v Speaker 4>and drive over here. And he says, I got a

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<v Speaker 4>sofa and I want you to spend a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>days with me. I'll take you around and babysit you

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. So I slept on wal Simon's sofa

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<v Speaker 4>and we became very very close friends. And when Miles's

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<v Speaker 4>nana passed away, they asked me to be one of

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<v Speaker 4>the speakers at the funeral, and it was the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>honor that I had had at that point in time

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<v Speaker 4>in my life. And I do dearly love Miles and

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<v Speaker 4>his family and and everybody, and so you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of history that I'm aware of that is

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<v Speaker 4>under the table that maybe I'll write a book someday.

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<v Speaker 4>You can help me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll definitely do that. Definitely going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>quick one last question. Do you have an NIL deal

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<v Speaker 3>yet put together with?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if we could do some figure out some ways

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<v Speaker 4>that we could pay for it and T shirts, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that'd be pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, we can come up with an idea like that, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm serious about that too. We'll talk, we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 2>What you what do you think about the NIL situation?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it sucks. I think it's us. It's going

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<v Speaker 4>to ruin a lot of things, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>sneak up on us and we're gonna wake up someday

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<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna say, how in the world do we

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<v Speaker 4>do that? Why did we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No question. And you being a local guy with

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<v Speaker 2>the business, you know, popular business and known business, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you've gotten a call or two or two or

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred. Hey can you help us?

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<v Speaker 4>Bert?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you help us?

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<v Speaker 4>Burn. Well, yeah, and I don't see any way that

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<v Speaker 4>we can justify spending money to in that arena. There

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<v Speaker 4>are many many more ways that that money can be

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<v Speaker 4>spent in marketing, Yeah, a much more practically. There are

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<v Speaker 4>two advertising mediums. There's a shotgun medium and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>rifle medium. The shotgun medium is where you put somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>face on a picture, run it on the television screen,

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<v Speaker 4>or you have an ad in the radio, or you

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<v Speaker 4>have a billboard. Now you're not going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to determine and control who's going to be seeing that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a shotgun that goes out there and blasts everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are direct mail and promotional products. Advertising are

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<v Speaker 4>like a rifle where you can really key in and

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<v Speaker 4>nail what it is that is in your target audience

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<v Speaker 4>and your and that's what we're trying to do. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just happy to help you guys. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 4>help the university. My high school sweetheart, Ann and I

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<v Speaker 4>we've been married for sixty one years. We grew up

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<v Speaker 4>in Phoenix Kulleac High School. We came down to the

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<v Speaker 4>university for our freshman year. We got married after our

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<v Speaker 4>freshman year and she was a cafeteria girl in the

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<v Speaker 4>student union, and I worked as a priy cook in

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<v Speaker 4>Louis's lower levels. Used to cook three thousand hamburgers a day.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I was offered as a scholarship. Actually

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<v Speaker 4>this is a true story. I was offered a scholarship

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<v Speaker 4>to be a wrestler in the one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 4>five pound rate. And I said, well, great, how much

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<v Speaker 4>does that get? Well, we get you books and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to work. Oh no, you have to quit

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<v Speaker 4>work and you have to start working out. And I

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<v Speaker 4>said I can't do that. If I don't work, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't go to school. So that was when it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a club sport back then.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me ask myself so every question, as I

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<v Speaker 2>always like to do, you got a few books? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you eventually read my book? I know you got some

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<v Speaker 2>books from some of the guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, And thank you very much, thank you

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<v Speaker 4>very much for for signing it. I appreciate it very

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<v Speaker 4>very much. And I passed the books on. I gave

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<v Speaker 4>sent one to Miles, and I can't remember Dylan maybe,

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<v Speaker 4>and Kevin Planning, and I can't remember all the guys.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, it's really a lot of fun. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>blessing to be living here in Tucson. We are we

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<v Speaker 4>are just an amazing community. And thank you for everything

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<v Speaker 4>that you guys do. Yeah, well, thank you, Bert. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>see you at the game tonight. Have fun, be safe,

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<v Speaker 4>don't don't get hurt, all right, all right, then and

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<v Speaker 4>after it's all over with, I'm gonna go rob a circle.

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<v Speaker 4>K you want to go with me?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, there's three mice here, but no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to know. Thanks, Bert, appreciate all right, guys later,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Hey, that's good. That's good.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take a break here, Dave and Kobe and come

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to in the Ball here on pox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Fortune fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver and

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<v Speaker 2>you're Kobe what. Hey. That was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good. We'll see how you know. The

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<v Speaker 2>funny thing about it, he's talking about all this right,

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<v Speaker 2>it may not happen because he has all these conditions, right,

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<v Speaker 2>a four minute every media timeout. It has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a bad call. Circumciances have to be right. Does he

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<v Speaker 2>have to clear it? I mean, does he have to

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<v Speaker 2>clear it?

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<v Speaker 7>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, some of those timeouts are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>orchestrated with the cheerleaders coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>And band playing. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It always seemed like it was kind of right right

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<v Speaker 3>as the as the buzzer went off to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>get everybody off the court to get ready to come

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<v Speaker 3>back on the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's do you remember I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wondered him walking right by us and we used

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<v Speaker 3>to be situated, we used to be situated on the floor,

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He would walk right behind us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he'd be coming down from like three or four

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<v Speaker 3>rows behind us, Right, I do remember that, like turning

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<v Speaker 3>back behind me, like what.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking twenty years ago? Yeah, that's what we're all

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been on the four in sixteen years, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that and uh, do you remember I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember the last time they did this. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they usually would show it, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't show it live necessarily, but they would show it

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<v Speaker 3>when they come back from a break in some broadcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but let's see what happens tonight. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know he named off like six people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's already like a second generation or whatever. However

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<v Speaker 2>you say that, Yeah, because he's eighty one. He's eighty

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<v Speaker 2>one one, he's already passed and they've been doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, what twenty five years Yeah, so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>he was a young you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just my history now day with you. It's forty

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<v Speaker 2>one years. You've been in town forty ishty one years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here at thirty seven, almost thirty eight. God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if time flying, times flying.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but it's great how we can remember some

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<v Speaker 3>of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the eighty three eighty four season. But I

840
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 3>couldn't tell you, like though, that's you know what happened

841
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 3>like last week.

842
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>No, no, we Jay and I were notorious for that.

843
00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>We just didn't know what the hell would that guy?

844
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.079
<v Speaker 2>You know that guy? You know that guy? But we remember,

845
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, did Bud just from sixty two exactly? This dude?

846
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well they had such a big impact as we're

847
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of growing up and learning on our jobs that

848
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I just remember them being just kind of, you know,

849
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>important to us.

850
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Then who's the who's the day or the or just situations. Yeah, yeah, moments,

851
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

852
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, like the other day, I don't know why,

853
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess when we played Cincinnat whenever I played Cincinnati

854
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 3>and they were replaying the shot and then the miles

855
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 3>in Phoenix, I mean, you know you you were there,

856
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 3>I was there. You know, those are like moments you

857
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 3>just don't forget.

858
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because when they showed that and I was

859
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>a part of it doing the stories. Obviously, uh my

860
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>story was after the fact because Luke you know, doesn't

861
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 2>really celebrate on the court. He does kind of give

862
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>us a shrug or whatever. And then remember Huggins just

863
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>destroying the locker room. He was, you know, really pissed

864
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and destroying the locker room. And I think it was

865
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 2>his five hundredth victories for Boot. And they partied on

866
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 2>thee on the on the trip back, and that's when

867
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, when people don't see the stuff. He was

868
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>having a good time on the way back.

869
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I think they had a cake in the locker room

870
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 3>because I that's kind of the end of the story

871
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>for me.

872
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure it's the last time we saw No, you're accurate

873
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that one day.

874
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It was funny because our photographer was right underneath the

875
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 3>basket and got a great shot of I mean three

876
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>quarter court because I was sitting, uh, equal to the

877
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>free throw line at that end, so I'm watching it

878
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 3>coming our way and I'm just remember my first thought was,

879
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 3>that's got a chance.

880
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>That's got chat.

881
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's straight, but it certainly was

882
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>the right short distance it was. Our photog was Joe Pirates,

883
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 3>was right underneath the basket and got a great shot

884
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>of it.

885
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the late great Pirates, right, good photog. Yeah, it

886
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 2>was uh, some great times and that's a great moment

887
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to five hundred victory for Loot and No one thought

888
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>they were gonna win. They were underdog in that game.

889
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 2>And we said this yesterday and you know this just

890
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 2>as well as I do. Arizona when they were an

891
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 2>underdog are very They're very good. It's very good. Ye

892
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>when they're a favorite, you know, they kind of LOLLI

893
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>gag or whatever and they kind of let people in. So,

894
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, for whatever reason, it's just been that case forever.

895
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you would, you know, they would get caught in

896
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 3>the Pac twelve, you know, with that Oregon State game

897
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 3>or Washington State when you go come on, you know

898
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 3>where you know Arizona is better, and then something would

899
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 3>just not you know there was some reason. Oh yeah,

900
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 3>it was too cold, there was nobody in the crowd,

901
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>there was no life in the arena, and then they

902
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 3>just kind of let down. But you're right, when they're

903
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 3>when they're favored, they had to be careful.

904
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, no question, especially on the road. I've

905
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>saw that too many times. When the Thursday Saturday blah

906
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, they played Oregon State. Like you said, there's

907
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>three people in the gym, they didn't show up. Because

908
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>there's three people in the gym, there's no really nothing

909
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 2>to play for these show up and they get beat

910
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and then they play out of their mind against you know,

911
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 2>with Kent or any kids Oregon team and they kill them or whatever.

912
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And then the same thing in Washington, Washington State. Like

913
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you said, Stafford, cal there was always one or the other. Yeah,

914
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and it was always the bad game that gave them trouble.

915
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 2>And winning road games is special. I mean you can

916
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>tell even from our media standpoint, when they would win

917
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>a road game in a place like that, like at

918
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a Stanford when Stanford was good or Oregon where they

919
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 2>were good, and those were big moments of pride, I

920
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>think for the team and for the program and for

921
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>confidence and things like that.

922
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>So it was never easy, but it was always a big.

923
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Moment, yeah, the road games. And like you said, Tucson,

924
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and you've been here a long time, but it was

925
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 2>probably this was very big before we even got here.

926
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, life didn't just show up in the mid eighties.

927
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 2>How Tucson has embraced the Cats and have always done that.

928
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. That's their only game in town,

929
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>right and now that they've gotten really good or had

930
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>gotten really good since then, just love them. Yeah, I

931
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.480
<v Speaker 2>mean it's part of the culture. It definitely is.

932
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, why when people think about Tucson and when

933
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 3>you see like marketing things like maybe even when Bert

934
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 3>was talking about when they see things about Tucson, there's

935
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 3>usually a picture of U of a basketball moment in

936
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 3>some of that. Besides, it's just Mexican restaurants and right,

937
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 3>you know Mount Lemon.

938
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's what Lu did. He I mean, he well,

939
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we had Bob Elliott yesterday and I'm gonna

940
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>ask you this because you were not here, but you

941
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 2>knew of it. Yeah, that I don't think that Bob

942
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Elliott's time the early seventies with Snowden and that when

943
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they went and they played Vegas in the tournament, lost

944
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>to UCLA and in the seventy six to seventy five

945
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 2>time of the tournament to get to the final four.

946
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the du that that era doesn't get.

947
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Enough credit, right what I think a lot of it

948
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 3>just has to do with exposure and not Things are

949
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 3>much different now. Every game is on TV. My friends

950
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 3>who even as the UF was getting pretty good, you know,

951
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 3>in the eighties and nineties, a lot of my friends

952
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 3>we'd never even heard of Arizona growing up. Oh really,

953
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 3>And now all of a sudden they're on national TV.

954
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 3>They're getting publicity, and that just didn't happen in the seventies.

955
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Yet it wasn't USA today. There wasn't these national publications,

956
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, CNN or ESPN doing stories on oh, this

957
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 3>sleepy town in the Southwest, they got a pretty good

958
00:45:58.199 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 3>basketball team.

959
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Well that just didn't Well It's funny because yesterday I

960
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.599
<v Speaker 2>saw Channel four did the story or a little feature

961
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>on Saliba, right, and they followed around and they, you know, says,

962
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 2>well he and he benched on the podium there. Arizona

963
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 2>was the sleeping giant. And I think I haven't heard

964
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>that in forever, if at all, because guess what, tempe

965
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Asu was the sleepy guy. And they even hate saying

966
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>that because it's never gonna awake or awaken. But this,

967
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>this town is like a this town is like a

968
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>forgotten child, I mean, and they proves itself.

969
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Every week or every year. Yeah, definitely with basketball. I mean,

970
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think you can't say that anymore about

971
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 3>basketball sleeping giant. But I like my school San Diego State.

972
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 3>I always have wondered, why is this place not you know,

973
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>blown up now especially they've got you know, a good arena,

974
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 3>brand new football stadium, good baseball stadium, but they just

975
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 3>have never they never could kind of get out of

976
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 3>that whole whack Mountain West feeling, you know where they

977
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 3>couldn't you know, emerge and get some national coverage.

978
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when you we've gone through your history since

979
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 2>you've been here. You got here in eighty three ish

980
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 2>eighty three. When you got the job, you were like

981
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 2>pop screams or somewhere I think San Luis Obispo. Uh,

982
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>when you got here, what were you thinking? What were

983
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you thinking that, Oh, I'll sider a couple of years

984
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and get the hell out or what.

985
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Well.

986
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>No, it's funny because.

987
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Longtime UFA fans might remember this, but in eighty three

988
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 3>they started off, I want to say third in the country.

989
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were good.

990
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 3>It was Ricky Hunley's senior year and they started off.

991
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And as we were moving physically coming to Arizona, they

992
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 3>had a weekend game at Cal and they lost or

993
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 3>they tied, and that was like, oh my, you know,

994
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of like our welcome. Then we get

995
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 3>to Tucson and it's also the weekend of the big

996
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 3>monsoon of October of eighty three. Yes, I remember, So

997
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 3>we couldn't even get to Tucson to go back to

998
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Phoenix and drive out someplace. I think maybe Apache Junction

999
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>comes to mind.

1000
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we got in.

1001
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, we were supposed to get to Tucson at

1002
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, five in the afternoon, and we got in

1003
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 3>at midnight. But anyway, that should have been a sign.

1004
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.440
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. I don't know really what to expect.

1005
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 3>I knew they had a pretty good football team. I

1006
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 3>knew Lout had just been hired, so that was kind

1007
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 3>of something that was kind of the news. But we

1008
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't know what to expect. I heard they had good baseball.

1009
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Well you you, but you knew what you were getting

1010
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>into well as a professional. How old were you? I

1011
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>was twenty five, twenty five, so you're you had your

1012
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 2>family already kind of maybe no, no, you were coming.

1013
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>One was coming, okay, So okay, so you were coming,

1014
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and you think, okay, University of Arizona and which you

1015
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't know much about, right, but it's it's in the

1016
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>packed packed ten ten pack ten, and you think, okay,

1017
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>here's a step up for you professionally, for sure, and

1018
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>here's a chance to you know, kind of make your

1019
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 2>name exactly.

1020
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and you know, I've told the story to

1021
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>all my friends. Basically, I got super lucky with Lute.

1022
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I walked in his first year. I started

1023
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 3>in October. They played their first game in November. I guess,

1024
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 3>you know. I was here the entire time, and part

1025
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 3>of why we decided to stay was just yeah, you

1026
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 3>know a lot of people around the country wondering if

1027
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna make a move or do something, But yeah,

1028
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 3>it was pretty good, pretty good college town.

1029
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>In that in that time, in that in your business,

1030
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. They always hope that the guy

1031
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 2>leaves so someone can replace and move on. That's how

1032
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you guys do it. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's the

1033
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>reason why I didn't leave them. Why would I leave

1034
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>a good program.

1035
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Making you and Bruce, I mean, and Greg and stuff

1036
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 3>like that have been Yeah, Greg got here I think

1037
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 3>the same year I did three You're right, So it

1038
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>was one of those It was one of those thoughts that, like,

1039
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, where am I going to go? It's gonna

1040
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 3>be better? Do I have to want to do? I

1041
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.360
<v Speaker 3>want to restart completely? I didn't want to really fall

1042
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 3>into that type of a career.

1043
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, No, no, and and the rest is history. Right.

1044
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I got them on the map and you I want

1045
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 2>to ask you to we got about the three seconds,

1046
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I hope. Uh, because you did some tape programs, you

1047
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<v Speaker 2>did some interviews. Didn't you do the pregame show with

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<v Speaker 2>some of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were on a couple of no, no, no. But

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties, Oh, I did the Larry Smiths show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so those were taped.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were taped and taped on Monday morning and then

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<v Speaker 3>you would have them.

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<v Speaker 2>It would air.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it aired after Monday Night Football or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>before Monday, because those are the years k Gun had

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<v Speaker 3>those games. Yeah, when the time switched, you know, during

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the season, so we would either show

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<v Speaker 3>them before the game or after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All times have changed, right yeah. Yeah, Because I

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<v Speaker 2>remember talking to Uncy Scott. I think he did some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff early on too, and in those and stuff before

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<v Speaker 2>those video things, he said, ohyeah, we didn't fly him

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<v Speaker 2>back on the on the flight plane. Yeah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, wow, Yeah, how long ago was that? We

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go, we gotta go and come back we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe with some breaking news, and then we'll get ahold

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<v Speaker 2>of mister Bryce Cherry from Baylor
