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<v Speaker 1>The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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<v Speaker 1>the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and.

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<v Speaker 2>Grow not what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are looking for an echo chamber, viewer and listener,

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<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you talk about extreme?

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening and what is up? Hold out your

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<v Speaker 1>glass because we're about to fill it up torches high,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>Different perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, what is happening and what is up? Hold

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<v Speaker 1>out your glass, baby, because you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We about to fill it up. Welcome, It's tremedious, slams

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<v Speaker 1>pot gast. The place with the conversations are always in

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning. I'm your host, Doc Brown, and here we

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<v Speaker 1>like to use the allegory of the Prometheus lens to

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<v Speaker 1>take a second look at everything. Well, guys, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a real good show lined up for you. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a podcasting brother from another mother. We just spent some

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<v Speaker 1>time together in the trenches out in Gatlinburg. Got the

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot conference. Man, We had such a good time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he allowed me to hang out of his booth and

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<v Speaker 1>sell a couple of books. And I've been on his

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<v Speaker 1>show once, but this is the first time, first of

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<v Speaker 1>many on my show. We'd like to welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Prometheus Lens Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds. How you doing, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>great man?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on. That was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fun at the Smunky Mountain Bigfoot conference. First time we met,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were on my show. God, it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>while then.

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<v Speaker 1>It was run in January or February, is right when

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<v Speaker 1>I released the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it was really good to me in person.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, definitely man.

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<v Speaker 2>And a bunch of the other guys, Harley Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even Kevin. Kevin from where the Weird Ones Are.

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<v Speaker 1>He come all the way down from Maryland, Maine or Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wow, I came from New York. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was a lot of fun. Though it

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<v Speaker 2>was so good to me in person. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a real good time hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>you man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, for those men that are not familiar with you

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<v Speaker 1>or your show or what you do, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give us a feel of who the bennet Man, is

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<v Speaker 1>what your show's about. What kind of got you into space?

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<v Speaker 1>Just give us a little bit of a feel for

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<v Speaker 1>those that don't know about your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I am Benetton. I am a father of

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<v Speaker 2>four daughters. I'm gonna give it the whole thing, father

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<v Speaker 2>four daughters. I'm married to the love of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been married twenty one years, and I live in

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<v Speaker 2>upstate New York and I have a podcast called Broadcasting Seeds.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in the podcast game for about since twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so about eleven years. Had some other podcasts, as most

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<v Speaker 2>of us have, right, but I landed in this space,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like to call it the highest strange in

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<v Speaker 2>the space because the show Broadcasting Seeds covered all the genre, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everything from cryptids to even a little true crime

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<v Speaker 2>sprinkled in here. But it started with Bigfoot. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>some experiences, some sightings and or face to face experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what really got me. I've always been curious, really,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I was that kid. I'd be in

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<v Speaker 2>the library because I'm older gen X kid didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, so I'd be in the library finding the

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<v Speaker 2>big Foot books. Are I was really obsessed with lockness too,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think a lot of our generation was, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what there was, really, right, bigfoot lockness. But broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>seeds easy enough to find, just broadcasting seeds dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and on every platform that you could dream up, probably right,

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<v Speaker 2>like all of us are. And I just love talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah for real, me too, man. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>tell a lot of people because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have the idea, you know, of Hey, man, that's easy enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You just talk with people, I want to do a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have my own podcast. Yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 1>they get into it, man, And ninety percent of them

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<v Speaker 1>don't make it past six months, a little one a

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<v Speaker 1>year because they don't realize all the time you spend studying,

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<v Speaker 1>getting guests, all the money you spend on the cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and software to edit all this stuff, and if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that you love to do, you will burn

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, I am. And that's what's happened with other podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was in a different space too with those.

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<v Speaker 2>It was first podcast ever did was very veteran, veteran centric.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a military veteran, and that one was marine centered

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and it's like you, I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like we ran out of content, but you just And

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<v Speaker 2>also I had multiple guests. This is something else. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the people that have not multiple guests, multiple hosts,

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<v Speaker 2>the shows that have multiple hosts, that's another layer of

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<v Speaker 2>difficult crap you gotta go through, right because you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>jimmy around with everyone's schedule and all that fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have we have friends that deal with that

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<v Speaker 2>correct right now, and but you know, you make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But then after about three or four years of that,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like, so started another veteran again, Glad

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<v Speaker 2>for Punishment, another veteran podcast with another buddy of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that one went a lot better. We actually ended

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<v Speaker 2>up creating a podcast network, and then we ended up

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<v Speaker 2>effectively selling that. I mean, we didn't make anything right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is what it is. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. But now it's the broadcasting seeds man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just love the people in this space. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of them, let's be honest, they're a little challenging, it's right,

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<v Speaker 2>but many of them are just good people and I

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<v Speaker 2>love It's really centered me in like the Christian space

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<v Speaker 2>I would consider myself a Christian before all this, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize the overlap and the uh that it's all

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<v Speaker 2>connected m h in my opinion. So that's been something

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<v Speaker 2>that's been crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, one hundred percent. Man. Well, another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you had talked to me about over that weekend at

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<v Speaker 1>the conference is that you're even affiliated and like helped

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<v Speaker 1>produce a magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Strange Knocks Magazine, which literally, yeah, here's copy. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of writers that and some people have

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of, like Brian king Sharp he writes and

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<v Speaker 2>he's written an article in here, and there's just a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of people. But it literally talks about it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just cryptids are paranormal. It's a little bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's with a friend of mine, Gwen Purcell, it's

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<v Speaker 2>her name, and she runs a website called God Knockers

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<v Speaker 2>and Bigfoot Knockers. She happens to be female, but either way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a lot of fun. And we it's a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterly magazine and we just kind of solicit out there.

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<v Speaker 2>This next issue will be Halloween issue because it'll come

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<v Speaker 2>out in October, and so most of the stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>that one will be you know, spooky Halloween in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know there's just a lot of irons in

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<v Speaker 2>the fire man. Oh yeah, it's just another thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do too, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to help her as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think it's universal thing. It's like most

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<v Speaker 1>of us podcasters are big adhd ers, so we all

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<v Speaker 1>have to have, you know, multiple balls to juggle. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like we're doing something entertained consistently.

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<v Speaker 2>Consistently. You wish that you could just and see. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the thing when I started this whole thing, is

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to focus on cryptids. Just can't do it. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>once you start digging into it all again, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>connected and you start next seeing you know, you're interviewing

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<v Speaker 2>people about the connection to UFOs and or UAPs or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they're called now, right, And then you get folks

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<v Speaker 2>on like like Gary Wayne, and you start pulling the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, man, I cannot just do cryptids. So uh,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely definitely fun. But it's a lot of research, so

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<v Speaker 2>much research, which I love to do, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work, especially when you got some good guests

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like and then you try to do diversity

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<v Speaker 2>you know guests too. So yeah, man, I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>There's definitely a labor of love. So it is you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what's the other one?

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<v Speaker 1>Like comet subscribe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So well you had mentioned earlier, Bean that you had

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<v Speaker 1>had some bigfoot experiences and it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>your your gateway drug into the strange and paranormal. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear those, if you're willing to tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, so I the first one. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in Illinois, farm and a little town, little farm town

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<v Speaker 2>and we were I was a boy scout, so we

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<v Speaker 2>we had this camp that we always went to and

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<v Speaker 2>lot as a boy Scout troop. And what we had,

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<v Speaker 2>up first is there were I guess you could say

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<v Speaker 2>Indian like local legends of sasquatch like creatures already that

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<v Speaker 2>we had known about, right And if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've tried to do research on this, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's really hard. So I like bringing this up on

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<v Speaker 2>other people's podcasts because people that might know. This was

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<v Speaker 2>McClain County, Illinois, and I can't the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>camp was Camp Heffernan, but it's a little it's on

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<v Speaker 2>Lake Bloomington, not that far from Bloomington, normal, Illinois. And

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in the middle of this campground, there was

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<v Speaker 2>being like a stump in the very middle of that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of those times when you're like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I crazy? Do I really remember it this way, right,

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<v Speaker 2>had it was cut like a seat, right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am like ninety percent sure. There was a like a

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<v Speaker 2>plaque on it that said something about it in a

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<v Speaker 2>tale that basically there was a tribe that was there

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<v Speaker 2>that would, like an essence sacrifice people to this big

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that's just prefacing this whole thing that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like an Indian legend.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, yes, I'm pretty sure, I and I I

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<v Speaker 2>really wish I could track this down or somebody could

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<v Speaker 2>help me, you know what I mean, But nobody has

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<v Speaker 2>so far. I've been telling the story for about a year.

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<v Speaker 2>But what that being said, one of the glories of

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<v Speaker 2>these cabins that were right off of the central area

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<v Speaker 2>of the camp, but we always might squad. We always

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<v Speaker 2>chose this pine forest just because it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how it gets with the needles, and it was just awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>you could call it whispering pines right the wind blown

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<v Speaker 2>through those pines. There's a distinctive sound too, And it

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<v Speaker 2>and it was awesome, well one evening. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 2>a two or three year period. We were really comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with it. But there's this area in between the pine forest.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like a like a road that goes down to

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<v Speaker 2>or at least there was then. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>same thing anymore. Somebody else owns it. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>these hedgerows that were about ten feet tall. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like think like World War two movies with the French

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<v Speaker 2>in France, with the giant hedgerows that like tanks would

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<v Speaker 2>bust through and you'd see soldiers crawling underneath them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there was this on either side of this road that

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<v Speaker 2>a drainage ditch before you hit that was about ten

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<v Speaker 2>feet off of the first hedgerow. And we being boys

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<v Speaker 2>full of energy, but still you know, somehow, we're still lazy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't want to walk or run all the way

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<v Speaker 2>around the hedgerow, so we would climb under them, crawl

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<v Speaker 2>under them to then run across that field and get

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<v Speaker 2>to where they always cooked. Because and we were late

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner. Sun was going down and we're heading west

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<v Speaker 2>right into the sun, and we hit that drainage ditch

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<v Speaker 2>and at that point it had rained the day prior,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was still a little runoff and we had

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<v Speaker 2>to jump across it. And as soon as I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the lead, and as soon as I did that,

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I remember is the smell hitting me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like a wet dog. You've heard this

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<v Speaker 2>a million times, like literally like a wet dog and

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<v Speaker 2>like d coomp. It was just awful smell. And I

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<v Speaker 2>say dcomp but it's more like a like a swamp

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<v Speaker 2>right with that that bacterial sludge. If you were to

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<v Speaker 2>just nasty mixed with like wet dog, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like whoa. And then the right as that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>the hedero in front of us like exploded. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the best way that I can describe it. It exploded

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<v Speaker 2>and I and there was this just roar slash scream slash. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Even you could even feel it. It was that much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just that powerful. And I remember looking up

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<v Speaker 2>at what it was just like, oh my God, like

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<v Speaker 2>scared out of my mind. And I remember seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>hedgerow like come apart, right, and it came apart from

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<v Speaker 2>the top, So this thing had to be about eight

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<v Speaker 2>feet tall, I mean, just monstrous, and bent that hedgerow

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<v Speaker 2>back and I could distinctly see shoulders and the head.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like one thing that wasn't like a head

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<v Speaker 2>with a neck, it was just one, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was yeah, and it was just that that yell,

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<v Speaker 2>that scream. Then the two kids that were with me

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<v Speaker 2>let out a scream, obviously, and I look over at

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<v Speaker 2>them and they're running down the hedgerow and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to followed them, and I can't think. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember of anything beyond that of that, like, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't chase us, it didn't follow us. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>footfalls or anything like that. And us running to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the cabin where they where the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>troop was at, just freaking out, and the one kid

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going home. They ended up calling his parents

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<v Speaker 2>because he's like, Nope, not doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're someone who still thinks the wild, hast secrets,

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<v Speaker 1>who feels stories woven into the wind, this brand's going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit home. The Soul Squatch makes Squatch approved gear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that lightly. This stuff is functional, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's laced with legend. It's for people who believe

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<v Speaker 1>in what's out there and what it brings out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're hats, beanies, stickers. They're designed by folks who live

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<v Speaker 1>and breede the myth. No gimmicks, just real outdoor gear

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<v Speaker 1>with soul. Go to the sooulsquatch dot com and find

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<v Speaker 1>something made for fellow believers, wanderers, or anyone who still

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<v Speaker 1>listens when the woods go quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was visibly and I remember he actually quit

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<v Speaker 2>boy scouts like he was done, which I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it did scare me, but it wasn't. It was

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<v Speaker 2>almost like this surreal like dream state. Is how I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about it now. That's why I say I remember

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<v Speaker 2>it very clearly. But it's one of those things. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be like the trauma response or something where

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like, is that even real? You know? And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that happens with bigfoot encounters. People don't

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about them for years and years and years

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<v Speaker 2>and years. Right. I remember talking to the other kid

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<v Speaker 2>about it. He acknowledged that it happened, but he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. He's like, I don't know what that was, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know what happened that day, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I got the internal dialogue too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did I really see that? Am I crazy? Or If

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<v Speaker 1>I really did see it and I tell people, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really gonna be looked at like I'm crazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of the La Marzouli's first encounter with

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO. You ever heard that story?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god. Yes, he was at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp and him and a couple of his buddies are

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<v Speaker 1>out in the woods and they seen a UFO, all

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<v Speaker 1>three of them seen and acknowledged it, freaked out and

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<v Speaker 1>run away. And they had supper that night and they

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting at the table and LA was like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>tell them about what we see in the woods, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. He said, there, like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? He said, they acted like they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it, he said, So, I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>just were denying it and didn't want to admit it,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they had like UFO brain fog and it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like wiped from their memory. So but

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<v Speaker 1>either way, he said, I look like a fool at

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<v Speaker 1>the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do you remember? So the way I know

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<v Speaker 2>it happened for sure is that the other kid acknowledged

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<v Speaker 2>that it happened for sure, but wouldn't talk about it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>he died a year a couple of years later in

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<v Speaker 2>a car accident, you know, like teenage high school kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ran off the road, acrossed his car into

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<v Speaker 2>a creek, you know. Tragic, right, So that story kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dies with him, you know, other than me, and

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<v Speaker 2>other than the other kid, which I've who I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen since. So the one thing that I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand how they couldn't have heard it either,

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<v Speaker 2>as there was other boys that were behind us but

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<v Speaker 2>farther back, and none of them acknowledged hearing anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that that roar, And I don't know how they couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't allegedly. So yeah, so that's that's my

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<v Speaker 2>first run in with with Bigfoot. And again that right

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<v Speaker 2>was eleven, yeah, yeah, and that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it never it never scared me out of the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>which I always wonder about that, like, because I went

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<v Speaker 2>back and slept in my tent. Like we walked past

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<v Speaker 2>that spot kind of and there wasn't really any signs

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy there there. You could see where the hedgerows

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<v Speaker 2>had been, uh damaged, but it wasn't anything like insane

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<v Speaker 2>that there was leaves all over the ground and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was no footprints. There was no other sign

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<v Speaker 2>right then, leaves and stuff on the ground and probably

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<v Speaker 2>our poop because I'll tell you, man, it was yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had another similar episode in the Marines.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost identical in Alaska, oh wow, and me

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<v Speaker 2>and another guy saw that too. But again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those crazy things him and I acknowledged that

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<v Speaker 2>that had happened at one point, but then UH never

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it again, and he passed away in UH

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety seven, So I don't know this. This one died

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<v Speaker 2>with me too, that one. You know. It's just me

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<v Speaker 2>very similar story patrolling doing UH. We were really training

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<v Speaker 2>to do. UH. I had told you about our my

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<v Speaker 2>background in the military before, and we were training in

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska to do like a drug interdiction mission. And we

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<v Speaker 2>had had an altercation with a moose earlier in the

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<v Speaker 2>day that was so scary. It was a female moose

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<v Speaker 2>with a calf who was trumping through high grass and

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't see her, well, we didn't know there was

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<v Speaker 2>a calf initially, and assumes she would she start bluff

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<v Speaker 2>charging us, and man, I'll tell you what, they're big

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<v Speaker 2>freaking moose are gigantic. So we were already kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like spent already in the day dealing with that. We

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<v Speaker 2>had also seen a bear through a spotting scope. Really

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a threat to us at that point because it

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<v Speaker 2>was across a valley, but you know, you're out there bears, mooses,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my, you know is for sure, And we were

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<v Speaker 2>in a national forest outside Anchorage doing this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those times. It was during the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was light twenty I mean, the night before

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<v Speaker 2>we were out there, we were playing volleyball, like eleven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock at night. It was pretty cool. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>just walking along after the incident with the moose, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a few hours later, but we were getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready to try and find a spot to just like

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<v Speaker 2>bed down for the night, and we were walking and

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<v Speaker 2>him and I stopped and smell. He actually smelled. At first.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, oh my god, what does that smell?

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, because it did smell, this one smelled

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<v Speaker 2>more like decomp than the other one. So we thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was something dead in front of us. But then

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<v Speaker 2>we took another three two or three steps and it

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<v Speaker 2>literally rose out of like this clump of like it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't alders, but it was something like that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like a it was it was a bush, a bush.

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<v Speaker 2>It rose up right behind it. And again we were

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<v Speaker 2>walking into the sun, still wetted. But this you could

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<v Speaker 2>see from like here up so you could kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see it put its uh, it was like one arm

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<v Speaker 2>went up, so you could see daylight under here too,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of like, see, I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>about this, and I remember distinctly seeing like the shadow

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<v Speaker 2>of like like you would like an orangutan had the

418
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<v Speaker 2>long hair in the under the arms, right, not not

419
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<v Speaker 2>in the armpit, but under the under the arms. And

420
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 2>again just that just neck like this big around and

421
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<v Speaker 2>then the head and it wasn't necessarily a conical head,

422
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 2>but it was just a just a giant head. And

423
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the roar. It let out the same roar. And this

424
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<v Speaker 2>one might have been even a little bigger than the

425
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>other one that I had encountered, because I think we

426
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>estimated it to be eight and half nine foot and

427
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it roared, and we had fully loaded weapons. This is

428
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<v Speaker 2>the other thing that was so weird. And neither of

429
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<v Speaker 2>us pulled the trigger. I didn't feel compelled to pull it.

430
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. Petrified, probably, I mean I was,

431
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't pull the trigger either. And then actually

432
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 2>another guy behind us, because we were staggered pretty decent

433
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and we were coming the rest of the team was

434
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of down like off of a ridge a little bit.

435
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>We were coming up in flat spot. So one other

436
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>guy had just crested the ridge and he could hear

437
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 2>it as well, and he came running. And when he

438
00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>came running, that's when it took off. And it sounded

439
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>like a freight train going through the I mean it,

440
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I say. You know, people are like, oh, it could

441
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 2>have been a bear, I guess, but I don't think so. Man. No,

442
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 2>the thing had arm. No, No, it was not.

443
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.599
<v Speaker 1>What kind of distance are we talking about? How far away?

444
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Within twenty feet? Oh?

445
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

446
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm telling you the first one, the

447
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>first incident was within like twelve ten twelve. I think back,

448
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and I can literally feel It's almost like I can

449
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>feel the breath coming off. I don't distinct they remember

450
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>smell or anything, because it was already pungent. But the

451
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 2>same thing with this. This one's probably about twenty feet

452
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and it was just it. It was just that sheer

453
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>feeling of it could reach right out and just snap

454
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>us like twigs. Like there was nothing you could do.

455
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And I had a you know, an M sixteen and

456
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 2>a M two, a four grenade launcher, M two A

457
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>three sorry, M two a three grenade launcher under there,

458
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even have the inklaning to pull the trigger.

459
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>But it wouldn't have done much. I don't think.

460
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just like al and it just stasty.

461
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it'll Yeah, it was.

462
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like one of this. Yeah, it was fight

463
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>flight or freeze. Then we definitely froze. It was just

464
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>what the hell? And then that third guy came running

465
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>up and that's what set it off and it ran. Yeah, man, and.

466
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 1>It's scary wild too. How you described that the sound

467
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of it running away, It was like a freight train

468
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>just so it.

469
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Was just I mean literally just crashing, snapping trees. I

470
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>actually have I wish I had the pictures. We took

471
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 2>pictures of the trees broken and some of these trees

472
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 2>were probably ten inches around right, just just pushed over.

473
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>And of course that happens in other sightings as well,

474
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like they can just snap these trees and that's just

475
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>unfreaking believable. But of course those pictures were lost. Uh

476
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole nother story. A storage storage area that

477
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that had failed to pay rent on and they got

478
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>somebody's got them. Somebody's got those pictures, but it's not me.

479
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I interviewed a guy that was a local guy

480
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>from down here in Dandridge and his name was red,

481
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 1>but he gave us a story accident interview show with him.

482
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>We called it Bigfoot Stole My fishing hole. And his

483
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>story was is that he was out fishing and he

484
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 1>liked the night fish, and there was this little cove.

485
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 1>It was his secret, you know, fishing hole. He said,

486
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I like to fish at night. He said, it's not

487
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 1>as hot. You don't have as many boats and people out.

488
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 1>He said, So I was out there, he said, you know,

489
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like two o'clock in the morning. And he said that

490
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>he kept hearing like rocks being thrown his boat.

491
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>He said.

492
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 1>It started off just like small ones, he said, but

493
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they started getting bigger. He said, they got really close

494
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to my boat. He said, I thought it was kids

495
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 1>up on the ridge in that cove throwing rocks down

496
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 1>at my boat. He said, So I just started yelling

497
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>up at the ridge, you know, you little bastards, beer

498
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>quit throwing crap at my boat. And he said, uh,

499
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And then he said it stopped for a little bit.

500
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 1>He said, then all of a sudden, he said, I

501
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just heard but douche, he said, And he said, I

502
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>mean this sounded like a bowlder as big as a car.

503
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And he said, and I turned and looked. He said,

504
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 1>shine my floodlight over to where I heard it. He said,

505
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>they're wanting to rip a one in the water. And

506
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 1>he said, and about that time, he said, I was like, okay,

507
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting the hell out of here. He said. I

508
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 1>started my boat, he said, I started to go. He said.

509
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm on the water, this motor roaring right by

510
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>my head.

511
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>He said.

512
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Then I hear something running around the ridge line toward

513
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>me and following the boat. He said. It sounded like

514
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a mac truck. He said it took maybe eight to

515
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>ten steps. He said, I heard it boom, boom boom.

516
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>He said, it didn't cover the whole length of the cove.

517
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

518
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he said. I never seen it. He said,

519
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>but I heard it, but you heard it.

520
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I just it's one of those things. Man,

521
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I look now and watch. You know, Eastern Tennessee is

522
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty uh active. And our buddy Harley Well can attest

523
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and you guys all can from Operation Smoke. There's some stuff,

524
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>some stuff going on in East Tennessee, right But if

525
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 2>you look, and I love to give this guy props

526
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 2>because he's got one of the best websites I've ever

527
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 2>seen when it comes to cryptid research is the Bigfoot

528
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>mapping project. And if you look at the Bigfoot mapping

529
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>projects and like right now it's the number one areas

530
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>actually where you're getting the most reports is western Pennsylvania.

531
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is. And and you didn't

532
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you talk to Tim about some of that stuff, Tim

533
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Constantine about the Alleghany, the Allegheny's and giants and or

534
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>things like that around Pittsburgh.

535
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So right, yeah, the allegai or Algeewe you you announce it,

536
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it means giants. Yes, you got the Allegaiy river that

537
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>was the Aligueney. It was the river of the giants.

538
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>So in so right outside pent Pittsburgh of all places,

539
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 2>right there's just a hotbed of activity for bigfoot and

540
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>also eastern Ohio. Well, I do a lot of bigfoot research.

541
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>One of our research areas is the Allegheny National Forest

542
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>in in Pennsylvania, and so we've had multiple uh and

543
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that that includes gwyn the Strange Knox. We've had multiple

544
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>incidents there where never I haven't had a Class A

545
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>siding there, but I've definitely had Class B on two

546
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>separate occasions. We had a scream slash roar from a

547
00:36:53.199 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>from a ridge where right off our campsite one, and

548
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 2>it was just unbelievable. There's no way of you know,

549
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I've heard mountain lion scream and you you know, there's

550
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>so so often you try to debunk this stuff, right,

551
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and it could have been an owl, yeah maybe, But

552
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing is it's I've never heard an owl that loud, right,

553
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean just insane, And it was so loud that

554
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 2>we could feel it right, And then it was almost

555
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>like it tried to it tried to mimic an owl

556
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 2>at the end to like throw us on or something.

557
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 2>So that was a pretty intense thing. But there's a

558
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>there's an other thing there that people call Pennsylvania's little Bigfoot,

559
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's actually called an ol albat witch albat witch,

560
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's how you pronounce it. Or they call

561
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 2>him like an apple snatcher, right, but it's like a

562
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>little Bigfoot. And there's a there is a picture that

563
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it's very contested and whatnot, but it's the oh my gosh,

564
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.079
<v Speaker 2>why did it just flee from my brain? Uh? Yeah,

565
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I gotta look it up. The it was a famous

566
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>uh trailcam picture.

567
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Because it makes you wonder if it was a just

568
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 1>like a juvenile ye.

569
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe, but this is one of those things like

570
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>they're they're described apple snitches, about four feet tall, hairy,

571
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>but they're slender and they'll climb trees, which a lot

572
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>of people say juvenile sasquatches do as well, right, stealing apples,

573
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>but they've had notable encounters for years. What is the

574
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 2>name of that? People that know are yelling.

575
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Goodness, sorry, no, you're good And one of the things

576
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that you had mentioned earlier, it brought up some stuff

577
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>in my mind. How that camp that you was at,

578
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven year old boy, how you said there was that

579
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>plate with the Indian legend about how they would sacrifice

580
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to this thing. Will you have that similar story in Afghanistan?

581
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Because there was a guy that came forward and said

582
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 1>that that's what his people and tribe did, that he

583
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>remembers his grandma and stuff painting these goats and stuff

584
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>red and then taking them out and tying them up

585
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and leaving them.

586
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I hadn't, but he told the story about his grandmother, right,

587
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, has that I heard that.

588
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 1>He's been on a few show. I can't remember all

589
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of them. He's been on because it's been a while,

590
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 1>but I think he went on La Marzouli's once maybe,

591
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But it was like, basically they were sacrificing to this sasquatch,

592
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>this Harry giant, and he said that it was something

593
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that the people did as far back as they could remember,

594
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and they said that this thing used to raid their

595
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>village and steal their animals and cause a bunch of havocs.

596
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So they just started doing that and he left them alone.

597
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>And this is the same area where you have that

598
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>encounter of the Nephelo giant covered in red hair. Yeah,

599
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the candle her giant. Tell you, guys, it's no secret

600
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>that every single day your dollar loses its value. If

601
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 1>a man invested one thousand dollars in silver in the sixties, today,

602
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 1>that same one thousand dollars would have magically turned into

603
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 1>almost thirty thousand dollars silver and gold only continues to

604
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>increase in value if you have a four to oh

605
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 1>one k or money setting in savings. That is just

606
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a number in a computer system that is one MP

607
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>or hack away from being deleted forever. I have recently

608
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>teamed up with Cornerstone Assets and metals and started investing

609
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 1>in gold and silver myself, and I highly encourage the listeners.

610
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>If you have money in savings just sitting there, invest

611
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>it in hard tangible assets. The same thing with your

612
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>four o one k's take a twenty to thirty percent

613
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>cut of that four oh one k that number in

614
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a computer system and invest into hard tangible assets that

615
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>has proven to only increase in value. Be sure to

616
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 1>check out the link in the description or the number

617
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 1>on the screen, and be sure and tell them that

618
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Doc Brown from Prometheus Lynn sent you. Torch is high guys.

619
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I think I think too many connections.

620
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, we have many of stories here of

621
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>even Indians in the United States of red haired giants

622
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that we're fighting full blown wars with tribes. You know,

623
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I've done an episode on a couple. So this what

624
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about is called the Jacob's Creature. And

625
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, some people will say that it's like a

626
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 2>bear with mange and there's all kinds of different things.

627
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's definitely weird. I'm not saying it's not. I'm

628
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>not saying that it is one of these apple snatchers

629
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>or whatever you call them. But yeah, it's a pretty

630
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>good it's a pretty good picture of something right that's

631
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of ape like. And with that being said, I

632
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>took my buddy we went out on it one night

633
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and did a bunch of different you know, we'd we're

634
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>those idiots howling and knocking in the woods, which I

635
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>don't like doing anymore. I don't really like doing it

636
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 2>at all. I kind of look at it as I

637
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 2>like to camp. Like I'll go out during the day

638
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>and like look at stuff, but then at night I

639
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 2>like to stay back at the camp. And you know,

640
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I find that if I do that, usually the third

641
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 2>night will start getting activity. I don't know why that is.

642
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 2>But we had done something different this time and went

643
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>to a different site and you know, walked around a

644
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 2>little bit and then sat still and really we're watching

645
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and listening, and some more than one thing came. I

646
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't too close, but I'd say it was within a

647
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet or so, like on the edge of the woodline.

648
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 2>And the next thing we know, we're listening and we

649
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>had done a little whoop and one of my buddies

650
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>does a really good sasquatch call, and he called out,

651
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>and the next thing, you hear is literally it sounded

652
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>like chimpanzees fighting in the woods in eastern Pencil or

653
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 2>western Pennsylvania, you know. And we were trying to think

654
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was it owls or was it whatever? But it wasn't.

655
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.679
<v Speaker 2>It just didn't sound that way. But of course it

656
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 2>could have been right, you never know. But here's the

657
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>thing we were recording. We have one of the things

658
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that we have is very good audio equipment, this group

659
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of us, and we had this audio recorder on the

660
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 2>top of my vehicle, which was sitting couldn't have been

661
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>more than thirty to forty feet from them that whatever

662
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>we were hearing, because it was about half distance from

663
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>where we were sitting to them, right. And when we

664
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>listened back, because we're like, holy shit, we got this

665
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>on audio. When we listened back, there was about a

666
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>four minute gap of audio that was just blank. And

667
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>it was during that time. And how do you explain that.

668
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't because we have before it and we have

669
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>after it, right, and you can hear us talking, and

670
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 2>you can you get the overlap of the ambient noise

671
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>of the forest, but all of a sudden, it's blank,

672
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing, there's no audio at all for about four minutes.

673
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's the type of stuff that drives me insane

674
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 2>with with this research on well, it makes me go

675
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>to the supernatural side of things, right.

676
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 1>It makes me Rachel.

677
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Makes me go more to the wu is like I

678
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and I've also had another incident where where I was

679
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>at what's called we call Broken Bridge Research Area, which

680
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>is my buddy, my buddy's land. He has about ninety

681
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>five acres in upstate New York in what's called the

682
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>tug Hill Plateau, which is a very wild area of

683
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>New York State. It's in what you would call the

684
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Adirondack Foothills. Right, so you've got it's perfect sasquatch habitat

685
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 2>we have. He's got a trout stream that runs through

686
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 2>his property. He's got deer all over his property. There

687
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>there is about so he's got ninety five acres. There's

688
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 2>fifty plus acres on one side of his property that

689
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>is farm. There is about one hundred acres on the

690
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 2>other side. Then there's a road or it's about forty acres.

691
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Then there's a road that's got you know, just he's

692
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>got acres hundreds of acres around him. That that's it.

693
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just woods so two separate things that that well,

694
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>we've had three separate things happen there that are very telling,

695
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 2>one of us, which is I went out and stayed.

696
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 2>We have a campsite that we built out there where

697
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.719
<v Speaker 2>there's been incidents where things have messed with our tents

698
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 2>at night. So we decided to put up this fence

699
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>around our campsite to just keep whatever it is at

700
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>bay enough, right maybe or at least we can hear

701
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it if it decides to come through the fence or

702
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>over it or whatever, just to keep because you know,

703
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to lose sleep at night. I mean, yes,

704
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 2>we're doing this right, but at the end of the day,

705
00:47:56.079 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 2>it freaks It's freaks you out. Yeah. Period. So one

706
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 2>night I decided I was going to campalone out there,

707
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>which I don't recommend in areas where you know that

708
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>their sasquatch activity, for just for me. I got the

709
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>willies really bad, and I'm a you know, I'm that

710
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>guy that're walking around the woods all night. I'm not

711
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 2>afraid of a lot, but but damn, that night, I

712
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 2>was going to set up a camera trap because I

713
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>had this brand new awesome which I had used it before,

714
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, I have a thermal camera and I'm

715
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 2>going to catch this thing on thermal because I'm gonna

716
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>not bait it in but kind of like bait it

717
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in that what we did. But what I do is

718
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I use cameras to funnel it to where I want.

719
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I have trail cams and I have other static cameras

720
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 2>all infra red, and I have them covering all of

721
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>that campsite except for one way up from the creek,

722
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 2>up from the stream that comes to a spot that's

723
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>closest to our tent, like the tent that I've got

724
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>set up there, right, and it leaves about an eight

725
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 2>foot gap that it could come right up to the

726
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 2>fence right and not be on camera, because I'm telling you,

727
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I use cameras to deter them from messing with my tent,

728
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and now I have a rooftop tent. But still I've

729
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 2>never had issues since I started using trail cams to

730
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>as a deterrent at night. Right. But anyway, so I

731
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>had this spot about eight feet uncovered by camera. I

732
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 2>stayed up. It was about two So I have two

733
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 2>cell phones, two different iPhones that I had fully charged

734
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 2>because I had the power bank that you saw which

735
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I have right, I had both these phones charged and

736
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the camp. The thermal clicks right into the to the

737
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>power poart and you just view and once you turn

738
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:24.079
<v Speaker 2>it on, it pops right on right. So I was waiting.

739
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I had my tent. What I have is a blacked

740
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>out tent, and I bought this tent just for this reason.

741
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>You if you're outside the tent with your naked eye,

742
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you cannot see any light. Yeah. I could have a

743
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>light on inside and you can't see in there because

744
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a blackout tent. So I had this one little

745
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 2>part of the which I didn't have any lights on

746
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But I'm just saying there's no way either way.

747
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I had the the screens zipped down just enough so

748
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I could put this, I could see this, and I

749
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 2>could just pop this up when I wanted to video

750
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and thermal. I heard something walking up bipedal. Not a coyote,

751
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>because we have plenty of those. There are the occasional

752
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>bear in that area here and there, but it was not.

753
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely bipedal, and it came right up to

754
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the fence right where I wanted it to. I heard

755
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.960
<v Speaker 2>it stop, and I heard it put its hands on

756
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the fence. I pulled up the and my heart was

757
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>just it could probably hear my heart at that time,

758
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 2>just pounded out of my chest. And I held up

759
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the camera with the thermal. I lit it up. As

760
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>soon as I held it up, the thing went dead,

761
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 2>completely dead. Not oh, it just stopped working. No, it

762
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:03.519
<v Speaker 2>sucked the battery dry, then did like a a magazine reload,

763
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 2>grabbed the other one, put the thermal in. It powered up,

764
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 2>It powered up. I brought it up, sucked it dry.

765
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>What man, did you see it though with your naked eye?

766
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I couldn't. It was so dark that night I

767
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 2>could not, And usually we'll have some sort of illumination,

768
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.119
<v Speaker 2>but there was zero. It was I think the illumination

769
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 2>was at like three percent that night. And it's one

770
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.679
<v Speaker 2>of those nights I wish I had my night vision,

771
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and of course it didn't have the night vision with me.

772
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I had the thermal. But it's one of the things

773
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 2>that it's This is why we don't have pictures of

774
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>this creature right because.

775
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Tasut. On our trip. I had my sony

776
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and I have three batteries and I had them all

777
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>fully charge. When I went and we went out in

778
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the woods and I maybe had maybe an hour of

779
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>record time on it, and that battery can go, oh

780
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, six eight hours or more. And about an

781
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 1>hour into it, man, while we were setting up that

782
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>bait trap, my battery went dead and I was like,

783
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 1>damn it. So I had my other batteries in my pocket,

784
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, let me change batteries. And I

785
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>changed batteries, pulled out the other one. It came on

786
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and then boom died.

787
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

788
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know all three of these was fully charged.

789
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

790
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And I pulled out the other one and I had

791
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:31.599
<v Speaker 1>like seventy percent on it and that got us through

792
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the night. But it did. It killed

793
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>two batteries in just an hour.

794
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you, I don't know what that is,

795
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.000
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, I've had go pro batteries die. I mean,

796
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Scott Carpenter used to talk about this all the time,

797
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and that's one of that to me, one of the

798
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>most respected you know, I look at him as in

799
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 2>his work as a mentor to me because I do

800
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the backward camera stuff and I've had my I have

801
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a different backward camera. I don't use a pro and

802
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't use it, but I have a these awesome

803
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>little uh they're like a ten eighty p thirty frame

804
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 2>per second clip on camera that do a mate, but

805
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>it's and I used to use them one of the

806
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 2>one of the companies I had for a while I

807
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>was a i AM. It was a process server, so

808
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I always had one of these cameras recording stuff. And

809
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 2>it's clear as day. Man. They're fantastic camera to do

810
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>what I was trying to do with and you know,

811
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 2>saved me in court a couple times. You know, like, yes,

812
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 2>this is here, here, it is all on film, right,

813
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 2>clear's day makes the I don't understand why the cops

814
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 2>don't have these things because they're chess cams or whatever.

815
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 2>They suck. I don't understand how they have they don't

816
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 2>have the And I bought this camera. I have three

817
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of them and my buddy has them too now because

818
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 2>they're so good you just clip them on. They cost

819
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>like twenty bucks on Amazon. But anyway, Uh, that's what

820
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 2>I have on my back, like when I'm walking through

821
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 2>the woods and I've had those batteries go dead too,

822
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 2>and they'll record for hours, hours and hours, same thing,

823
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 2>just dead and go pro batteries go dead as well,

824
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>that are brand new, brand new batteries.

825
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 1>So and I can't help but think of all the

826
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, the supernatural, the ghost stuff you hear about,

827
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because how many times do you hear stories about the

828
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 1>ghosts and stuff draining batteries and blowing light bulbs. And

829
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 1>it's basically like they're like energy leeches. When they try

830
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to manifest or they manifest, they have to pull all

831
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 1>this energy from wherever they can get it to manifest.

832
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I don't know what that is and how

833
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>it intertwines, but this is I mean, this is not

834
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenon that is just happening to me or to you.

835
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not positive what the heck that is, but

836
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>it gives credence to a lot of this stuff that

837
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the supernatural side of this paranormal side of this whatever

838
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:19.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to call it, was sasquatch and Bigfoot. It

839
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 2>blows my mind that people get I mean, I know

840
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this in the past. I know how

841
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>people get, you know, the flesh and blood and or

842
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the woo woo, you know stuff. And I don't want

843
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to get political about it. I want to be friends

844
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 2>with everybody because everybody does great research. I mean, you

845
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, But people do great, good research,

846
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and I look at it as we all have our partner.

847
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad at people that don't believe what I believe,

848
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not you know, I would hope that they're

849
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 2>not mad at what I believe, because I think we

850
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 2>need to be. I mean, we're talking about regardless, talking

851
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 2>about a bipedal, hairy ape. Whether it's supernatural, whether it's nephelim,

852
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.960
<v Speaker 2>whether it's eliud or you pick a word to call it,

853
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:17.719
<v Speaker 2>right or or it's just a gigantopithecus right regardless or

854
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.599
<v Speaker 2>relic commented, who knows, But whatever it is, we're gonna

855
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>we're getting to a point where we're actually going to

856
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>fight over this crazy being and what you know, it

857
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't come on. It's a very bipedal ape walking through

858
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the woods in North America and across the world, and

859
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 2>we're worried about we're going to argue about what it is.

860
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, you know what I'm saying,

861
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>So it is, But I also know there's financial incentive

862
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of these folks to maintain their their paradigm, right,

863
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and I get it. I understand, but let's have a

864
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 2>side conversation. I won't even talk to you, know what

865
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I won't tell anybody seriously, what do you

866
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:15.920
<v Speaker 2>really think? Yeah, at this point, man, I don't see

867
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 2>personally how I can think it's just a bipedal eight.

868
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I've had too many instances where it was not just that.

869
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thet they got intelligence, man, obviously, And like

870
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 1>I've said before, I mean, I'm not a this or

871
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that guy. I'm a this and that guy. Yes, I

872
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>mean I think, you know, potentially this is what the

873
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.639
<v Speaker 1>ancients would have just called a faral giant. And so

874
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is there some flesh and blood remnants still left? I

875
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's a high possibility. You know, you have the panda.

876
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I use that example all the time. The panda was

877
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>only discovered in the last hundred years, but there's legends

878
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and lore about these things going by thousands of years.

879
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>But everybody said the same thing about it like they

880
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.599
<v Speaker 1>do about Bigfoot. Oh that's not that's a legend. So

881
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if a pandic can avoid being seen and

882
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>captured and killed for thousands of years, that's a dumb creature.

883
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 1>So if we're talking about a humanoid mighty hunter with

884
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>intelligence not being seen for thousands of years, I don't

885
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's far fetched at all. Are you a hunter,

886
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a hiker for just an outdoor enthusiast, Well, if you are,

887
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:32.039
<v Speaker 1>you know that good quality gear is hard to come

888
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 1>by and find an all American maid, just like finding

889
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot in the woods. Hence the name of Squatch Survival Gear.

890
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Head on over to Squatch Survival gear dot com use

891
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>the code p LP ten for ten percent off store wide.

892
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:05.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, in technicality, I think too. The Highland

893
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 2>mountain gorilla in Africa wasn't technically seen by western eyes

894
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>until the nineteen thirties. If I'm not mistaken, maybe it was.

895
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.079
<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been that long. It's like the panda, and yeah,

896
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they might have known about lowland gorillas, but the Highland girl,

897
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, that was always a legend. Right. Oh, there's

898
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 2>no giant apes living in this jungle up here in

899
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 2>the mountains, right. Sounds kind of familiar to an extent, right, But.

900
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, then, the whole wu side, the

901
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:45.239
<v Speaker 1>spiritual side. I mean, I think that if my first

902
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 1>paradigm was correct, and it just flows right into the

903
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.280
<v Speaker 1>spiritual side too, if you have the Christian paradigm, because

904
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>if these are nephilemic in nature, they're a hybrid being.

905
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And it says in the Book of Enoch that these Aleu,

906
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>these sons of the Watchers or whatever, that when they die,

907
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 1>their spirits are not normal. So therefore they have nowhere

908
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 1>to go. So they just roam earth to tore me

909
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 1>at mankind. So I mean, why would they not want

910
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 1>to choose a familiar form?

911
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you know the fact that they might just

912
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:23.320
<v Speaker 2>be l eud, which are the offspring of the nephelin. Right,

913
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 2>so we're even going farther down the bloodline. And I

914
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:32.079
<v Speaker 2>mean we have it. We do have genetic genetic study

915
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:37.199
<v Speaker 2>that is pretty compelling, even though mainstream science will bash

916
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>it and smash it and pooh poo all over it.

917
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That Sasquatch genome project. I'll tell you what, I've gone

918
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>through all of it, and you can find it online.

919
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Go through yourself and look at I mean, find somebody

920
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that's way smart in you that's got something to do

921
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 2>with DNA and they're gonna look at it and go,

922
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.079
<v Speaker 2>oh man, there might be some legs here, right, because

923
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the technicalities that they're talking about, there

924
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:14.199
<v Speaker 2>was a concerted effort to totally uh you know, discredited,

925
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 2>discredit that whole study, and that right there, to me,

926
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a red flag.

927
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, when you get a whole group of people

928
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.519
<v Speaker 1>that are all saying the same thing and attacking the

929
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>same thing, yeah, you know, there's there's a controlled opposition there.

930
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.119
<v Speaker 2>One of the things I love about that is that

931
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those a bunch of the samples were

932
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 2>completely sampled, not sampled, completely tested blind. They had no

933
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 2>idea what they were testing mm hmm. And legitimate, legitimate labs,

934
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 2>not just like some lab that melbour ketchum ran Now,

935
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:01.400
<v Speaker 2>they were legitimate labs like crime labs Louisiana and stuff.

936
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 2>So they had no idea what they were testing. And

937
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it came back, you know, if.

938
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly, they were blown away because they were like,

939
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 1>where did you get this? Because it's it's a hybrid.

940
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 1>It's weird like something. It's got the DNA, the mid

941
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.440
<v Speaker 1>okondord DNA of of the mother from the female. But

942
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:26.119
<v Speaker 1>this this other chromosome is totally foreign to us. Is

943
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a humanoid creature, but it's not human.

944
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I love the fact that the that the hair,

945
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>it's totally different than anything else. And they can't pull

946
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 2>mitochondrial DNA from the hair. You can pull that from

947
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.840
<v Speaker 2>human hair, but you can't pull it from the sasquat

948
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.480
<v Speaker 2>chair or what's allegedly a sasquat chair, right, and they

949
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 2>had Yeah, it's amazing. I can't wait to talk to

950
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.480
<v Speaker 2>what you he carved from Medham. You have had Tea

951
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 2>carp on your show, right or.

952
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.559
<v Speaker 1>You've not yet. I've spoke with him, but I haven't

953
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 1>had him on the show yet.

954
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 2>He's coming on my show soon and I just can't wait.

955
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I talked to Harvey Harvey Harley, and

956
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:18.360
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he's talked to Tea carp a bunch.

957
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Plus he was on Biblical Hitman the other the other day,

958
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 2>like a couple of weeks ago.

959
01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:26.440
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be at Spiracy Con. So I just want

960
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to talk to him and interview him in person if

961
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I could.

962
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Heck, yeah, so and his father, man, he was part

963
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.039
<v Speaker 2>of that whole thing, and David Plady. So I just

964
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:41.639
<v Speaker 2>interviewed Mondo Gonzalez, who's a pretty reputable guy in the

965
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.960
<v Speaker 2>in the high strange iness space, right. He's one of

966
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the people at Prophecy Watchers, and he's a you know,

967
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 2>a former pastor, and I guess are you ever a

968
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:55.119
<v Speaker 2>former pastor? Yeah, I guess you could be. But he's

969
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>also an archaeologist and you know, he goes at it

970
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:06.559
<v Speaker 2>from this angle. And he was at Timothy Alberino's UH

971
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 2>event in Bozeman, Montana, nepholon con is that was called

972
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 2>nef Con, That's what it was. And he which I

973
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.000
<v Speaker 2>almost went to but I didn't quite didn't work out.

974
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.199
<v Speaker 2>And David Plaidis got up and gave a presentation on

975
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.840
<v Speaker 2>this DNA and he talked about it on my show

976
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:34.039
<v Speaker 2>on the show, and he's just like he told He

977
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 2>tells the story just how I just told it. And

978
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:41.960
<v Speaker 2>come on, you know, I I I get it. We

979
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 2>can be skeptical. We need to be skeptical about everything.

980
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 2>But there's just mounting evidence of this UH and it's phenomenal.

981
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating to me. And then you you've been all

982
01:05:55.639 --> 01:06:00.559
<v Speaker 2>over Esau and the Amalekites, and I mean, I love

983
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that you use the term feral giant because it makes

984
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 2>me understand, like, so I know one of the things

985
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I know, here in upstate New York, we have a

986
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 2>decent population of We've had two separate populations happen. We've

987
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 2>had Russian bores right that got out of a uh

988
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 2>game preserve right, But we also have a population of

989
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 2>feral hogs that have gotten away and they started interbreeding

990
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 2>both of them. Well, when a feral, when a hog

991
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 2>gets out and goes feral, they revert to growing long,

992
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:47.679
<v Speaker 2>wiry hair, their tusks and get bigger, all that stuff.

993
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:54.199
<v Speaker 2>And there's even there's even evidence that humans do the

994
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:59.840
<v Speaker 2>same type of thing to an extent, right, So why

995
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 2>the idea of the feral giant? You know, it's not

996
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that far fetched to me, no living right mm hm.

997
01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 1>When I found that, that really kind of blew my mind.

998
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 1>When I found the uh, the hypertrixosis, you know where

999
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so many documented cases of kids being born covered

1000
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in hair from head to toe like esau And you

1001
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.960
<v Speaker 1>got to think ancient times, you know this, they would say, oh,

1002
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a demon child, and they'd kill it or

1003
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.719
<v Speaker 1>take it out the woods and abandoning it. And you

1004
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 1>had all these people that were the outcasts of societies,

1005
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the murderers, the thieves, the liars, the whatevers. They were

1006
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 1>outcasts to make to live in the wilderness. You got

1007
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to think of Robinhood and his band of married men.

1008
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 1>And there's so many studies I can't remember what they

1009
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 1>call it now, but there's when your body, uh goes

1010
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:55.679
<v Speaker 1>through cold weather and you're and you also go into

1011
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 1>anorexia that it triggers this faral gen this hypertrixosis, and

1012
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.599
<v Speaker 1>you grow hair all over your body as a defense

1013
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:08.920
<v Speaker 1>mechanism when you are battling cold weather and you are

1014
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 1>in starvation mode. So when you go through all the

1015
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:18.159
<v Speaker 1>old legends about these wild men and feral giants and

1016
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, it's it's all the same. They're they're

1017
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:25.920
<v Speaker 1>raiding towns and they're stealing supplies and women, raping women

1018
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So like to me, it's like,

1019
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.479
<v Speaker 1>like you said, I don't think it's far fits to

1020
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:35.880
<v Speaker 1>think that some of these were, you know, humans that

1021
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>turned feral and they're labeled as wild men bigfoots.

1022
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, one of the things that's always got me

1023
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 2>is this the legends of the Native Americans that fought

1024
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Some of them fought sasquatch type creatures, but some of them,

1025
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:03.720
<v Speaker 2>like the ska Ah right, the tribe of red haired

1026
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:09.960
<v Speaker 2>cannibals in northern uh In Nevada, Nevada. Yeah, in the

1027
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Piu oral traditions, right. I mean it's a pretty compelling story. Uh.

1028
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's uh man. I also look at that

1029
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:28.920
<v Speaker 2>as like their their proximity to like places like the

1030
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Grand Canyon, right, because there's some weird stuff going on

1031
01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:41.880
<v Speaker 2>there too. Oh yeah, but I mean literal cannibal red

1032
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 2>haired giant tribes six fingers, six toes, the whole thing.

1033
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:52.279
<v Speaker 2>And they're they're clash with this, uh, with the Piu

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<v Speaker 2>tribe and love lock love Lock cave and whatnot. Just

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<v Speaker 2>amazing story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all. That's the thing. You know how the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible recorded those those giant clans that Esau married into.

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<v Speaker 1>So Esau was already described as a Sasquatch kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a wild man, and he marries into these giant clans.

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<v Speaker 1>And his father in law was sea Air, which his

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01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.439
<v Speaker 1>name translates to me and Harry, so that he had

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<v Speaker 1>this giant race defined as Harry. And you get these

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<v Speaker 1>two guys breeding, man, you're gonna throw some strange pups.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the lineages was the Amalekites, whose name

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<v Speaker 1>means the blood liquors. So you have a race of

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<v Speaker 1>feral cannibal giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, and we hear stories about this

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<v Speaker 2>all over the the Holy Land, right in and around

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Herman, in the all those foothills. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying I ever saw giants, but I know when

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<v Speaker 2>I let so, I was deployed the Egypt for about

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<v Speaker 2>a year right around two thousand and one, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and two, and I remember hearing stories from the Bedouins,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would tell stories of there's oral tradition there

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<v Speaker 2>that they would talk about, like giants living in caves

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff down in what they would call waddies, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the in these hills just just bear and land man.

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<v Speaker 2>And they would every once in a while they would

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<v Speaker 2>have goats go missing, camels go missing, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They roam around the their nomads that roam

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<v Speaker 2>around the desert and the Sinai the Sinai desert, and

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01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:46.960
<v Speaker 2>they'll have they have these stories of their they'll miss

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01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:53.079
<v Speaker 2>start missing goats and camels and who knows. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems as though every culture has this type of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some sort of story of like Harry, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not even Harry, just giants, right in general. So many

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<v Speaker 2>tribes in the US, so many tribal type people, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's so many rabbit holes you can get

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<v Speaker 2>to go down with this. This is why I could

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<v Speaker 2>not just stick with Bigfoot, because then you start talking,

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<v Speaker 2>you get into the rh negative rabbit hole, you start

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<v Speaker 2>getting into bloodlines, you start getting into all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, how can I just focus on

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<v Speaker 2>one thing. I can't. I can't do you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's too many rabbit trails and interconnected waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I just give a lot of credence to

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01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the oral tradition of a lot of these tribes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's how they They've been telling these stories for centuries, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not like a game of telephone. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>saying when you have people that that's how they actually

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01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.600
<v Speaker 2>tell their history as oral history. They become very good

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<v Speaker 2>at it. I'm sure, you know, we can we embellish

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01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and stuff along the way, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, a lot of these tribes and people

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01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a written language or they didn't keep

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01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 1>written records, so then it was very important and you

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01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:24.439
<v Speaker 1>get those tribes you have that the Shamans and different

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01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:28.079
<v Speaker 1>people with different roles, and you had people that was

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<v Speaker 1>just a sign specifically to remember the legends and the

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01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 1>lore and the histories and to memorize it word for

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01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 1>word because it was so important. And when they got

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01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to a certain age and they thought their life was,

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01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:44.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, running dry, they would take a kid or

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01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever unneath their wing and teach them all the stories

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01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and they just kept passing it on exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are pictures too, meaning cave paintings and

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01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 2>drawings and pictographs and all kinds of stuff of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, who's to say, I guess it comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to the fact that we don't know anything, right,

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01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:09.880
<v Speaker 2>we come full circle back to I don't We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth, man, That's the most honest answer you

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<v Speaker 1>can ever give.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And as soon as you start thinking you know better,

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01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:21.520
<v Speaker 2>start reading more.

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<v Speaker 1>Books, yep. AM mean yeah. Well, Ben at Man, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your stories

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01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and I'd love to have you back because

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01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you're a deep dive researcher too. You've done

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff on the Red Haifers and some of the things,

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01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and you actually have a really cool uh near death experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to dive into with you sometime too, man.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Well, just for those maybe if they joined late,

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01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>or maybe was doing laundry or something amiss, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the shows, go ahead and let everybody know

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01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.760
<v Speaker 1>your show. Websites and anything that you'd like to plug.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. Yeah, we've got broadcasting Seeds podcast, broadcasting seeds dot

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01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:06.920
<v Speaker 2>com or wherever you find you know, you're at your leisure,

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01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:12.439
<v Speaker 2>you listen to either audio podcasts or video at YouTube.

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01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 2>I try to post on Rumble too, but it's a lot, man,

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01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, just for some reason, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>end up there all the time. So I say Facebook ort,

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01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>not Facebook YouTube if you want to see the video

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01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 2>part of it. But I have a face for radio,

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01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.279
<v Speaker 2>so maybe you should stay on the audio side. You

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01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:37.600
<v Speaker 2>got voice for it too, man, right, So he'd rather

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01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:41.479
<v Speaker 2>listen to me than watch me with that too. I

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<v Speaker 2>also have the magazine Strange Knocks, which is just it's

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01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 2>just a fun project to kind of like help people

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01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:54.039
<v Speaker 2>also that want to get more notoriety and more you know,

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01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 2>authorship or whatever, just to share their stories in print.

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01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Form remember growing up, and that's was my deal with magazines.

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01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, we had all kinds of magazines and it's

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01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:10.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of died lately. But we also have a digital version.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get that, you can find that

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<v Speaker 2>at Gotten Knockers dot com and look for Strange Knocks Magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of anything else, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Well man, thank you once again, dude. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And uh, these were actually uh news stories

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01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:34.159
<v Speaker 1>for me, guys. I heard one of them about the

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01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>broken bridge and he told me a little bit about

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01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that at the conference, so I was on the journey

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01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 1>with you guys too. A lot of these I hadn't

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01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:42.640
<v Speaker 1>heard yet.

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01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Sore from the broken bridge too. I just you know

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01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that we'll be here all night.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, So well, brother, man, I really appreciate it. Man,

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01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I love what you do. Keep doing what you're doing.

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01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:56.359
<v Speaker 1>And you're a great dude. You're great friend. I'm so

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01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 1>glad that we've met and got to hang out meet

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01:16:58.920 --> 01:16:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, same to you, Man, I appreciate you and all

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01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the things that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, guys, be sure to check out Bennett' stuff and

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01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll get with him and get his links and stuff,

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01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be sure to try to have those down

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01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 1>in description for you. That way you got an easy

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01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>one click solution. Well, guys, if this conversation didn't show

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01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you anything at all, I hope it shows you that

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between the known and the unknown is the journey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good journey, guys,