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Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Bob aber Off

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the pitch. Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abart.

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Speaker 2: Yo. Happy Friday, everybody, Happy Bowl season, Happy football is

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We got a lot of it to talk about on

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Speaker 3: And yes we planned the show today, so you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we are back in the swing of things fully,

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T Bob, Jake Taylor, and h A.

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Speaker 3: An O g B.

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Speaker 2: Veteran and graduate mister Matthew Musso back back on the

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squad for this morning, the respected, beloved punching bags for

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both the morning show and the afternoon show, Sitting together

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united once again.

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Speaker 3: Who do I bully? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess I never really bullied moves from the show.

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Speaker 4: You bully Taylor this morning?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe Danny just a little bit. Mario ma No,

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Speaker 2: I would get exasperated with Mario sometimes and just his

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Mario had some wild opinions, wild opinions, I hope, I

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hope if Mario's listening. Love you, brother, I hope you're

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having an excellent day. But look, we're gonna have a

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really good Friday. We do have a ton to talk about.

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We're gonna talk a little LSU Baylor Texas ball. We

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and this will likely be the last time the weeks

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to get to speak about it on this show before

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it happens, given the holidays and whatnot. So it's gonna

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be a very fun three hours this morning of sports

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in Shenanigan. So if you want to get involved YouTube

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dot com, Slash one, O four or five ESPN is

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how you can do so Jakie, what's up dude?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Not too much.

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Speaker 5: Don't really know what day of the week it is

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when you wake up, kind of forget that you have

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work last night as you go to bed, like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Need to set the alarm.

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Speaker 5: You know, things going on, like big time things going on,

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like a Monday and a Tuesday during this time of year,

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and you kind of lose sight of what day it is,

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but you know, still here, still doing the show. Guess

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it doesn't matter what day it is. Uh no, does not.

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It's you know, a day it is. It's the day

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Speaker 3: Moose, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: How are we doing this? More him?

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Speaker 4: We're doing well all things considered.

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Speaker 6: Kicks off a three work the three straight work days

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of waking up before the sun, which I'm not normally

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Speaker 2: No, No, you never fully adapted to the morning.

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Speaker 4: I never will.

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Speaker 4: I just kind of, you know, go with the flow.

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Speaker 2: And why don't you just drink buy you cherry blast

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gnaws Monster Energy drink like Taylor does?

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Speaker 4: I I just I don't know, I don't I don't.

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Speaker 3: Did you already mow through all those monsters?

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Speaker 7: The second one, Jake, the Ultra Paradise and it's Pair

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Speaker 3: By you, blast chair. They don't make that. Fine.

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Speaker 2: No, but we're a little tired this morning, but we're

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gonna push through it. Yeah, you push you know what.

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let's crak this thing up. Uh And I know why

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the time of year. Tear. At all three shows yesterday,

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pm tonight. But hey, we're gonna have fun. Okay, like

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have fun.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna smile, We're gonna ride the roller coaster that

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Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and get this thing started.

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Speaker 3: Tiger Labor and seven.

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Speaker 2: You're a local staffing solutions experts, whether it short term,

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help that you need. So go to Tiger Labor and

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start with the Texas pull man. Something we have not

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talked about a lot. Jake, you will be on the call.

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It's coming up this Tuesday. It's LSU and Baylor. It

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is the first time that these two teams have played

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since nineteen eighty five. Interesting Land. Of course, Baylor coached

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by Dave Randa, the Strain coach, used to be here

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at LSU. Of course, Austin Thomas is here at the

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random time, and he left. He's now back. Corey Raymond

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was here at the RAND at the time he left.

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Speaker 3: He's back.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of members from both sides, from both teams,

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squad going to be represented in a pseudo reunion of sorts.

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point favorites over LSU, but ESPNFPI gives LSU a sixty

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chance of winning. And if you look at how the

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seasons went, you could argue that they kind of went

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the opposite directions. Baylor started awfully, started two and four,

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Randa was going to be fired. And next thing you know,

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say Robertson catches fire, they go to Texas Tech, they

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blow them out, and really remember they should have beaten

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Colorado and they screwed that game up. But so they

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beat Texas Tech and then they just get hot man.

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Baylor ends on a six game win streak, LSU doing

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a bit of the inverse we all know star six

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of the best teams in the entire country. Oh my god,

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all of our dreams come true. Garrett's by one on

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one player. Yeah, through the first half and am but

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it was all still there and then it crumbled. So

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you started six to one, you finished two and three

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down starts. Now it is a bit like I do

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people are maybe giving them credit for nationally because coming

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out of that three game losing streak and really handling

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two like two more impressive wins than people want to

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give credit for given the context where else she was out,

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but still two teams who's half of the season's last

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halves kind of feel opposite overall. And of course Baylor

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not dealing with almost any opt outs and LSH going

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to be playing with a completely makeshift offensive line.

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Speaker 3: So Jake.

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Speaker 2: Vegas favorite Baylor ESPN thinking l She's gonna win, and

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basically a coin flip in both. What are your early

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thoughts on who has the advantages here?

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Speaker 3: Well, you kind of just said it right there at

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Speaker 5: This is my first ever Bowl game to call since

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like the opt outs have been the thing, and so

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like when you're trying to put everything together when you're

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trying to get your car together, when you're trying to

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you know, kind of know everyone on the other side

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of things, cause you like, no matter who plays for LSU,

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if you're doing the LSU call, you know who it is.

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regular season. What's it going to look like during the

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ball season. You're right, they don't have as many opt

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outs and as many early entries into the NFL Draft.

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entry into the draft. So you know, you're looking at

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LSU some of their best play. Now, they did actually

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guys to play in this ball game. Now, there's some

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surprises that aren't playing. But you know we've seen over

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in this game. So yeah, their roster is going to

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look more like it normally does during the year. Than

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it's nice to keep some consistently

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going in the bowl game. But at the same time,

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if you don't, well, then yeah, it's because you don't

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have Will Campbell and Emery Jones on the team to

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begin with. So it's not an awful sign. I guess

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in kind of a meta overall program heal since when

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all of ball season, Sawyer Robertson versus Garrett and Osmeier

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It's it's it's not a matchup that's gonna garner a

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ton of headlines. But Sir Robertson was excellent this year.

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Both queston for twenty six touchdowns on the year. Sir Robertson,

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that was good for third in the Big Twelve. Garrett's

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twenty six is good for second in the SEC. Robertson,

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though so played a bit more mistake free as he

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finishes third in the Big Twelve in passer rating, So

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something to watch out for. Two excellent quarterbacks going toe

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given that Dave rand as a defensive coach, this is

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a Baylor team that has been really finding its success

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through dominant offense.

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Speaker 3: So Blake Baker in.

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good job, but this defense is a whole going to

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be tested this game. So you have this great quarterback

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matchup before Garrett. It does come at a time in

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which he will be playing behind an offensive line that

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should feature three new starters and four guys in new spots,

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as I believe it's going to be Tyree Adams left tackle,

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Paul Mbinga left guard, DJ Chester center, Bo Bordolon at

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right guard, and Miles Frasier at right tackle. Jake, do

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you have any worry about Dava Randa scheming on a

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brand new group like that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean you certainly would if it was

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the next week in the regular season. You feel better

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an offensive line like this that you do have bowl

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prep and bowl practice for the most part. You know,

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all those players certainly have time, even you know, within

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this year now Borderlines is at tight end, so it's

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not at guard and so that you know, that's a

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player that hasn't got as many reps. You know, for Fraser,

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it's a great opportunity for him to go show that

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he can be a tackle because he came to LSU

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Speaker 3: Down to guard.

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Speaker 5: Now it gets one more chance to play tackle and

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for him, and I believe he's committed to the Senior

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if he shows well, teams are going to ask him

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to probably do it at Senior Bowl week as well.

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fifth round draft choice, but they know that you've got

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swing capabilities. You can play guard and tackle, and that's

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going to benefit you greatly, certainly the tackle portion of that.

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expect him to be fully locked in. I guess, you know,

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having bordline play right guards, you know, the one guy

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the tight ends kind of the extra stuff.

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Speaker 3: But that's just what he's played mostly this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Mebinga, you know, as someone who he

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saw really struggle, but of course because he was thrust

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in against an A and m front seven as A,

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as A as a true freshman, a red chid freshman,

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red chir refreshman, as a red chired freshman, still thrust

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into that's incredibly tough, and he struggled, but you saw

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him get better and better down the stretch. I'm very

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fascinated to see DJ Chester's level of play, given that

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well Chester was the week League. I still maintain he

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was a bit better than maybe people give him credit

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for this year, but was the a bit better because

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he had two excellent veteran guards on either side of him.

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And what happens now when like what a weird experience

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from DJ Chester, He's now the leader, you know on

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the interior, Lea, Miles Frasier, the over almost guy like

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DJ Chester goes from being the young guy with the

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least amount of experience, all of a sudden, everybody's gonna

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be looking at him to make all the calls, and

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these young guys are gonna be relying on him to

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kind of lead the way and tell them what's uh,

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what's going on out there. So a full year of

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maturation from Chester gonna be put to the test. Also

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a great chance for him to maybe give us some

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insight as to whether he'll be playing center guard next season.

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Given uh the Virginia Tech is it Brailan Moore? Uh,

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I'm still I'm still trying to remember Christmas Fog give

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the Virginia Tech transfer center, Braylor Moore coming over. So

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a lot of exciting stuff to look for on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that this old line can get it done,

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because there is a world out there where they really

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struggle and this becomes a hard watch. But who knows,

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maybe the Elishue defense can step up and stop that

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good Baylor offense and keep you in it if that

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does come to pass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're also going to be kind of starting over

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at tight end. As we talked about, sure Mason Taylor

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going to the draft not playing in this game. Pimpton's

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now at TCU trade As Green, who kind of moved

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to receiver during the year, is probably gonna have to

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move back to tight end. Giovanni Peterson, a former walk

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on with somebody that you know, a couple of the

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clips that we saw was out there with the ones.

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I mean, he's a big body six four two fifty,

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but he's been a special teams guy to this point,

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so you know, up front certainly is like when you're

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looking at, you know, pass protection and rushing attack, like

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you're going to have to kind of learn each other

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on the fly. That's gonna be one of the stories

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of the game because on the other side of it,

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the Baylor bayar is like, that's probably what they're going

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to try to attack you with. They're the only team

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in the country that has a thousand yard rusher and

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a six hundred yard rusher Bryson Washington freshman thousand yard rusher,

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Freshman All American. How about this name Dawson Pendergrass. He

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ran for six oh eight So I mean, you got

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Washington at five point nine per career, Pendergrass at six

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point one per carry. That's who they are. They want

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to run the football. They're gonna do it. Out of

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eleven personnel, they're gonna do it, and they spread away,

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but they want to run the football. And yes, Dawson

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Pendergrass looks exactly like a Dawson Pendergrass should well.

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Speaker 3: Let I mean, look.

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Speaker 2: This D line Paiez is the D line pair shanned.

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Speaker 5: Chance we'll playing Chan's playing, I know they bro Uh

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Jones is playing. Braden Swinson's playing. So that makes you

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that does make you feel better about the matchup because

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that's Yeah, it's a big game for for wit Weeks

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and west Weeks can play in this one again because

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the ball game doesn't count towards your red shirt.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if we see the continue to

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merger the Devon Keys. I know they like Malton coverage roles,

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so maybe this isn't the greatest bet.

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Speaker 3: Devon plays star in this game.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, because his burns out right or no, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, that's certainly the word a word.

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Speaker 2: There's rumors that he may be let me see see

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if that's maybe I'm conflating things. So it's so especially

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again with the Christmas fog, it's very hard to remember

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what's real and what's not. But Key's in the star role,

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very intriguing. I think he could really do well there

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if mentally he can, uh, because we've seen him in coverage.

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I wish you would have called that pick against Florida,

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but he was right there. It was a great, great,

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great job of being where he needed to be. Now

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we just finished the play. So look, I'm actually pretty

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fascinating for this game in terms of making a pick.

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I don't know if I'm quite ready to do so yet.

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If I'm being realistic with myself, because it is such

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a coin flip, my bias will probably just push me

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to LSU in a close one, like if we're being honest.

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But I guess maybe that's the overall takeaway. I'm not

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going into this game like last year, well you kind

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of you had to be Wisconson. Honestly, I thought you

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beat them better, but like you were facing a team

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that didn't ever that was dead in the water. That

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is not the case this year. You are facing a

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team that is confident, that finished the season on a

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very high note, that would love nothing more than to

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push it to a seven game win streak with a

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Bowl win over LSU. That would be huge for the

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Baylor Bears. Whereas for LSU, you do have a bit

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of a question of motivation in some ways, although Brian

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Kelly says Morales strong and all that, So I guess

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my overall takeaway is, don't go to if you're a fan,

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don't go to this game cocky like as a fan,

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You're not just gonna roll over this Baylor team. This

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is going to be a battle. There's gonna be low moments.

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Can Garrett nuss Smyer, who just saw a massive pay raise,

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can he take Can he overcome a bad situation like

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he everybody is looking to him as the leader, new

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faces all around. Can he find a way to be successful?

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It's gonna be fast, I mean see as well as

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watching these younger line and giving you some insight in

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the next season. All right, when we get back, I

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want to talk about the potential reemergence of DBU and

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maybe what's even more important to LSU than DBU coming back.

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Keep locked right here on Off the bench, Off.

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Speaker 1: The Bench, Welcome back to the best morning sports show

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around sorta. It's Off the Bench with Hester and T Bob.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, what's going on y'all? Welcome back to OTB Hope

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everybody's having a wonderful day to day. Just hopping in

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the chatter the first time to do anything.

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Speaker 3: You all for hanging out. Go ahead, and hit that

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like button, guys, and.

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Speaker 2: Please the algorithmic gods that rule our existence. Jake, how

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is boxing day?

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Speaker 3: Yes? It was great. Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 5: It's always one of my favorite days of the year.

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It's just basically, you know, epl and championship action all

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day long. At least started it off right with Everton.

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You know, they saved a penalty, he had a result

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from man City. So no, it's a great day. Like

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I said, it's one of those days that maybe not

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everybody here appreciates, but I certainly do.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree this, Scott Dyce says, if nuskts happy feet,

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we are in trouble. It is one of the things

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I'm fascinating to see because at times he'd behind this

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very good o line his footwork we get him into trouble.

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At times I'm I'm again, how how will he handle

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how will the guy has handled up front?

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Speaker 3: And then how will he handle it? I don't even

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necessarily think it's like his his footwork and.

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Speaker 5: Like it's where he ends up and it's bailing from

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a clean pocket too quick and.

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Speaker 2: Trying to roll out like bailing backwards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like if he's just like sitting back there,

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like you know, his mechanics are good, and when he

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steps up in that pocket and we saw it, you

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know throughout this year, like there was a there was

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a play I think it was a touchdown against Florida.

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It's like the perfect Aaron Anderson. It's like the perfect example.

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But when he gets in trouble, I think it's when

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he tries to bail outside of the pocket, which as

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a tackle and as an offensive lineman like you you know,

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like that's not where I'm blocking.

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Speaker 2: It's and it's it's it's forgivable if there's interior pressure,

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cause then you don't really have a choice. And that's

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why in tier pressure is so important to set it

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up edge guys for sacks. But yeah, too often this

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year you could have stepped up and he would try

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to roll out. Now in tier pressure could be in

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play this game with a brand new and tier so

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we will see. But that's deaf definitely. One of the

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main things that I'm watching.

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Speaker 5: What I would say is you're going to see, in

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my opinion, much more of what we saw in the

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last game against Oklahoma with some now routes, with some

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smoke screens, with bubble screen like we saw a lot

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at the line of scrimmage with some of Els Sho's

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very talented receivers. You get Aaron Anderson one on one,

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you get Zavian Thomas one on one, like that's what

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you do, and in you lull him to sleep and

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then you hit Chris Hilton over the top, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean in the Oklahoma game they hit Empton on

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the play, you know, faking the little bubble screen. He

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goes down the sideline and it's a big play. You

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got to do some of those things because that slows

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any rush down. So if your offensive line is struggling,

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and you know, they love to play where they motion

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the back out and they'll throw announce at the back

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as well. Like those are things that you do to

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slow down if you're losing up front.

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Speaker 2: And so those are some of the guys that you

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will see play comes Saturday. One guy you will not see,

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but he is getting reps and Taylor. It's not a

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good video, but if you want to show the video

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just as a proof of life, is DJ Pickett as

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DJ Pickett is already on campus and he is he

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is practicing with the team. Now he cannot play in

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the Bowl. Game, but he is getting his first ever

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reps in in an LSU uniform, and I don't really

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want to. Oh, actually I do want to have this conversation, Jake,

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because this does dovetail with to me that we talked

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about recently. So Pickett in high school this year also

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had over one thousand yards receiving in fifteen touchdowns. Travis

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Hunter just won the Heisman. Obviously, DJ Pickett is mainly

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here to revitalize DBU, and I haven't heard this talked

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about anywhere. Is there a world though, where they give

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him some offensive opportunity do you think?

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Speaker 3: Or is that room just too crowd? I mean, I

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don't think you need it.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if, like we said, right, could because

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the question is that Travis Hunter isn't truly as singular

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as it appears to be. I think it is, but

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maybe this is like when the guy runs the first

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ever sub five minute mile, right, and then over the

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next year or two, like ten fifteen, however many other

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people do it, right Lester, Yes, I believe so. And

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also before the internet comes to me, I know that

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story is kind of like flawed, and there's other just

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you get the point. It's just a metaphor analogy whatever

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to compare for the story like does Travis Hunter lead

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to more guys trying to go both ways? And would

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DJ Pickett a be a potential candidate there.

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Speaker 5: I do think we'll see more of it because there

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is I don't want to say plenty. I feel disrespectful

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00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:18,680
to what Travis Hunter did, but I do think there's

476
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players that, if they were asked to do it, could

477
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,119
have done it at a very high level. I think

478
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,680
Patrick Peterson could have done it at a very high level.

479
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,039
I think Tyron Matthew could have done it at a

480
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very high level. Like hey, get that guy at the

481
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ball in space. We saw what he was as a

482
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punt returner. So I do think there's players that could

483
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have done I think right now, like let's just take

484
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200
the CFP, I bet there's five players that could play

485
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440
both ways because they you know, they've done it growing up,

486
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,640
they did it in high school whatever. Now to the

487
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240
Travis Hunter level, maybe not, but no, I do think

488
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it will become something that is a little.

489
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Speaker 3: Bit in vogue.

490
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Speaker 5: I think you'll see people try, but you're gonna have

491
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,839
high school players that just saw Travis Hunter win the

492
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Heisman Trophy and high school players have a lot of leverage.

493
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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, Picket's kind of the prime.

494
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,799
Speaker 5: Same coming to LSU unless you let me play both ways. Yeah,

495
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,079
I'm not coming to Georgia unless you let me play

496
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both ways.

497
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Speaker 3: So again I am saying this.

498
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Speaker 2: I have not heard this anywhere, So this could be

499
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completely not even in the cards. Just some interesting food

500
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,039
for thought because DJ Pickett did a lot in high

501
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:25,759
school offensively, defensively, even played some safety. Now, the thing is,

502
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:28,559
you got a really good receiver room. It looks like

503
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,279
again next year with the additions of Barry and Brown

504
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and Nick Anderson and everybody else that you have returning.

505
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Speaker 3: So maybe it's one of those deals.

506
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,799
Speaker 2: Like the reason why Travis Hunter works is because he

507
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,039
is simultaneously both the best receiver and the best corner

508
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680
on the entire team. I don't think Pickett could be that,

509
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But just some food.

510
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Speaker 3: For thought going forward.

511
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: Now, the more interesting about Pickett is it feels like

512
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,440
DBU is on its way back between him and ing

513
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,400
the transfers. You're bringing in, the young guys returning in

514
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Woodland and Stamps. Corey Raymond looks like he's getting that done.

515
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Speaker 3: Coming up next here on off the bench.

516
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Speaker 2: So I want to talk about another position group that

517
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may be even more important to LSU, recapturing the now

518
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lost glories of the Golden Age.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other stuff

544
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:39,400
mixed in off the bench with Hester and t Bob.

545
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: What's going on y'all? Welcome back to otb.

546
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: Hope. Everybody's having a voondabar morning this morning. So we're

547
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,480
just talking about DBU based being back for LSU. But

548
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960
there's a uh you got this market Spears video ready? Go?

549
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,039
Speaker 3: Uh?

550
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 5: Marcus, you tell me about a new Mark sperience video?

551
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: Uh what is it? Oh Taylor?

552
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,799
Speaker 7: I know Jesus, he didn't tell me to get it

553
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:04,559
ready by to do it?

554
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: Okay, good for once you know, do your job? Are

555
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,920
you are you serious? I can't. I can't hesitate, I think.

556
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: Marcus spearsman, No, but I haven't.

557
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:13,599
Speaker 3: I can't.

558
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,039
Speaker 2: I mean, I just can't with this guy. You know,

559
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,039
you can lead a horse to water.

560
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

561
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,599
Speaker 7: John, but he didn't say getting ready but John Kruk video,

562
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,240
thank you?

563
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: I did not.

564
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 5: Yes, it was when he was, you know, in the

565
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960
All Star Game, and he didn't want a bat against

566
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,680
Randy Johnson.

567
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:36,079
Speaker 4: Okay, you remember that one, and I think I heard

568
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,200
the story. I think I've heard him tell this.

569
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: We're talking about best sports nicknames. The Big Unit came up.

570
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: My favorite Big UNI moment is when John Cruk's like,

571
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,960
I'm not hitting against.

572
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: Tough bat for an a lefty man.

573
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: It is.

574
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yesterday was the most post Christmas show.

575
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: Imagine for breaking up John Kruk.

576
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, I mean, who does who among us?

577
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: All right, well, Taylor, let's all give her and fluster

578
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,240
Taylor doing his job. Taylor, thank you for having the

579
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,519
video ready to go. Uh, don't give me a Bill Wilders. Look,

580
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359
you brought this song with your SATs. Okay, okay, let's

581
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:11,160
just look.

582
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:12,759
Speaker 3: At the news. I mean it was, it was all true.

583
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Here's Marcus Spear sitting down with Adam Brindeman talking about

584
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,920
what's going wrong with Elsie.

585
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,319
Speaker 3: One last time we had a d Lineman go in

586
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:28,200
the first round. Glenn Darsey and Tyson Jackson. That's a problem.

587
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,680
I talked to BK, briand Kelling. I told him we

588
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,279
got to change our philosophy and how we recruit.

589
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,319
Speaker 4: I won't.

590
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: Is the internet?

591
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,319
Speaker 2: Yea?

592
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:40,119
Speaker 4: I think it's buffery.

593
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Did Matt and I pay the bill again?

594
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You know, look, basically we look, we all.

595
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This is what I tell people all the time. This

596
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,240
is what I was telling my kids the Nutcracker when

597
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,200
they'd get upset, when they would get coached, or or

598
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160
or if somebody was making them anger. If we allow

599
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,880
something to make us, they regive that thing control over us.

600
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,799
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to as Jake, Jake, what was

601
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,319
Marcus Spears going to get into that?

602
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was going to talk about you know, during

603
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,160
the Golden Age there for LSU, it was defensive lineman

604
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:19,400
being selected in the NFL draft. It was Glenn Dorsey's

605
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,759
tyson Jackson. Glenn was five, Tyson was three. But I

606
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,720
would go a step farther than that. It would go

607
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,039
back to Marcus Spears being a first rounder. You would

608
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,039
go to Kyle Williams being NFL draft choice. You would

609
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,960
go to Claude Roten being an NFL draft choice, and

610
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,440
then like you would go to your time with Kiki

611
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,160
Mingo and Sam Montgomery and Strake Nevis and Michael Brockers.

612
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: So I didn't I should have. I didn't do it

613
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000
to all draft picks, because I think you would clearly

614
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,359
see there were a ton of D linemen going. But

615
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:53,440
even if we just narrow this to defensive line first

616
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:59,880
round picks, you so very clearly see the correlation between

617
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,839
when LSU was at their best and you had guys

618
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,720
going in to the first round on your D line. Uh,

619
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,519
as you alluded to, Jake, you kind of start this

620
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,519
if you wanted to at Marcus Spears first round or

621
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:11,640
in five do you think the last one before would

622
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,839
have been Booger McFarlane maybe ninety one hundred percent sure.

623
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,359
Speaker 3: Like the nineties, you don't have anybody drafted anywhere basically.

624
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:21,880
I mean, if you did, it was mainly on the

625
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,759
offensive line. Yeah, it was not. It was not a

626
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:25,440
little why and Fanica anothers y.

627
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Speaker 2: So Marcus Spears first round pick and OH five Glenn

628
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,759
Dorsey first round and O eight Tyson Jackson first round

629
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,079
and OH nine Michael Brocker's first round in twenty twelve

630
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,319
for Kivusmingo first round in twenty thirteen, and that is

631
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,160
the last time that you had a first round offensive

632
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,640
lineman selected. In fact, Jake, as much as lsh is

633
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,160
called DBU, there's been fifty four defensive backs drafted in

634
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,519
Lshu's history, that is the most of any position group.

635
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:58,119
What second d line with how many fifty three? So traditionally,

636
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:02,880
these are the two position groups that LSU has always

637
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720
excelled at and been best at. And yet here we

638
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,759
sit and it has been over eleven years since you

639
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,960
had a first round defensive lineman selected. I mean, yeah, uh,

640
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,359
Park Givesmino in twenty thirteen was the last one. And

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,920
really that's a twenty twelve season.

642
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: The only like maybe count Kalvon. You know, I'm saying

643
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,279
first round, you first first rounder.

644
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,119
Speaker 2: I mean, they must say they must have said him,

645
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440
they must have put him as a outside linebacker.

646
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kalevon went eighteen overall eighteen or nineteen, So okay,

647
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,759
so there's there's no need to fudge numbers.

648
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: We could say one in eleven years, right, it's still

649
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,799
a dearth and it really if you look at draft

650
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,319
picks as a whole, of the first round picks in

651
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,160
that time, everything's gone offensive, which is still not bad. Right.

652
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:53,720
It's a lot of wide receivers, a lot of quarterbacks, ironically,

653
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,920
but for LSU to get and what's kind of the

654
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,599
biggest weakness enter in the zero you most work, Like,

655
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,440
for LSU to get back to being its best, you

656
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:06,359
have got to start recruiting more NFL talent on that

657
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,160
defensive line.

658
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:07,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

659
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: And also when we talk about the Golden Age and

660
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you know when we won and O seven, when they

661
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,920
won and O three, when y'all played four and eleven,

662
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,240
like up front was maybe the biggest strength of the team,

663
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,200
Like certainly on one side of the ball or another,

664
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:22,920
like that was the strength of the team. Like I

665
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,319
would say O three, it was both offense and defensive line.

666
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,039
I would say for us it was D line. For y'all,

667
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,000
I'd say it was a combination of both as well.

668
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,240
And a lot of people are like, well, you can

669
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:31,519
get it.

670
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: Done other ways. I mean twenty nineteen and sure like

671
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:34,359
twenty nineteen.

672
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,279
Speaker 5: Was built off Joe and the receivers and Clyde and

673
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,720
what they had offensively, but also listen to the pros

674
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960
from that team that play on the offense or the

675
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,680
defensive line. I'm not talking my first round picks, but

676
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,799
I'm talking about guys that made it into the NFL,

677
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,759
played a year, you know, got.

678
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Years credited to them in the NFL.

679
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,839
Speaker 5: So Austin Deculus, Braden Fojoco, Rashard, Lawrence Klevon, Chase On

680
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,200
like we're talking about. You can go down to Neil

681
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,480
Ferrell Junior. You can go to Damian Lewis, Tyler, Shelvin

682
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:13,279
Berry of course, Shadik, Charles, Lloyd, Cushion, Berry, ed Ingram.

683
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:16,839
All those are players that played up front for that

684
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,960
team that made it in the NFL. Yeah, so that

685
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,799
that kind of gets lost in that now, not household names,

686
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,920
not stars, but those are linemen. Right, that's almost double

687
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,559
digit guys from that twenty nineteen team that not only

688
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
like made it to the NFL, some of those guys

689
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,079
got big second contracts like Lloyd and d lou.

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: So the crazy that I mean that is in just

691
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,680
doing some very surface level number crunching looking at all

692
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:49,680
this stuff. The twenty nineteen team is such an insane

693
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,079
perfect storm of of good like it is in a decade,

694
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640
like if you look at what bookends it really from

695
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,200
god mingo, like the twenty thirteen time until now it's

696
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,720
kind of middling, okay, and then there's just this massive

697
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,719
spike in nineteen. Now granted with oh at the beginning,

698
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,519
you saw the rise, right, because what was it the

699
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,679
nine and four into ten and three, then into the fifteen. Oh,

700
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,400
so you saw kind of build towards that. But it's

701
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,760
such an outlier. I mean, five first rounders, are.

702
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:25,159
Speaker 3: You kidding me?

703
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm not expecting you to put together

704
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,280
a twenty nineteen team year in a year out.

705
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,079
Speaker 3: That's impossible.

706
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: What I am expecting, though, is a bit more of

707
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,039
the consistency that you showed in the past, or maybe

708
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:39,920
not expecting because all bets are off in terms of

709
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,360
expectations in the modern set, in the changes by the day.

710
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,280
But if you want to achieve the heights of the

711
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,840
LSU Golden era, where you feel like you are championship

712
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,159
relevant every single season, that's what you're going to have

713
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,239
to do is revitalize that defensive line. You're you're doing

714
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,079
great in the secondary. But like Jakiem Stewart, you know,

715
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,719
I mean, that's kind of a perfect a guy who

716
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440
would think has the NFL potential.

717
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: We'll see.

718
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still excited for McKinley and mad bro

719
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000
and the young guys, but in the group overall and

720
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:18,159
how they played. But yeah, certainly getting back to being

721
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,960
a dominant defensive line fearsome pass rush, Like that's the

722
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,000
only way that LSU will ever fulfill its max potential.

723
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: Again, I'm with you on that, And you know you

724
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,480
had pieces of some of what we're talking about this year,

725
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,159
but you still need you need more. Yeah, Like you

726
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,119
had the offensive line portion of it, and think you

727
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:40,840
get two tackles are going to be drafted and maybe

728
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,280
if Dellinger doesn't get hurt, maybe he's a draftable guy.

729
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,159
I think he's going to mobile for the senior ball,

730
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,800
so he'll have an opportunity. Mouse Fraser probably gets drafted.

731
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,079
And then on the defensive side, you took players that

732
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
the year before didn't do a whole lot.

733
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 3: They just didn't.

734
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think that falls on coaching because you

735
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,800
had a new coaching staff come in and now like

736
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,079
they're playing in All Star games, like Jones and Swinson

737
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,280
are playing in the East West Shrine Game. Like they

738
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,559
had really good years at defensive tackle. That was the

739
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,280
position we were probably most worried about. And I'm not

740
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,280
saying they were the best in the SEC by any means,

741
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,760
but they held their own. A jpi Ass played really

742
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
well at times, Like that's somebody that came in here

743
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,760
from Wisconsin with not a lot of fans. Fair you

744
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,360
had some young players step up, and so you're trying

745
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,559
to get back there. You're trying to get back to

746
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,559
that point that we're talking about, because if you want

747
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,800
to go play for championships, that's where it has to start.

748
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,599
Because no air Ray team has ever won a national championship, right,

749
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,599
no team that plays that kind of style. It is

750
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so hard to win one, and it's almost impossible if

751
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you don't have dudes upfront. Again, that's why we bring

752
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up twenty nineteen and who they had upfront, because they

753
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,639
had the stars at quarterback, receiver, running back, tight end.

754
00:36:56,159 --> 00:37:00,280
But you're talking about probably eight to nine guys up front.

755
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,039
They end up playing in the NFL. All right, when

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Speaker 2: These allow me to introduce myself. I'm a main will

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Speaker 4: I've been around for long.

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Speaker 5: Long you.

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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk, maybe off the Bench was adding

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y'all work.

786
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Speaker 3: Back to OTB.

787
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Speaker 2: Let's get a couple of comments here, uh jv SR

788
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,599
saying we thought our ow line this season would walk

789
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,480
us into the playoffs. I don't think the trenches are

790
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:45,440
as important as what they used to be. I think

791
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,599
you're taking away the wrong conclusion from the evidence. I

792
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,320
think Lsuzo line wasn't quite as dominant as we thought

793
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,599
they were going to be, especially obviously running the ball.

794
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:59,880
They remained elite passwalkers, but running bull certainly.

795
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: Because if you.

796
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,199
Speaker 2: Look at the playoff, what is damn near every team

797
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,239
and especially the strongest teams have in common.

798
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: They have the best offensive and defensive lines in the country.

799
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: If you look at this playoff, it is not built

800
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,880
on quarterback play. It is built on running backs, offense,

801
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,480
and defensive lines. Yeah, and really front seven on defense.

802
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

803
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: So again, don't don't don't be wary of of of

804
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,440
drawing such a conclusion as the one that was that

805
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:39,000
was stated there. So in terms of the portal to

806
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,360
Feke Boyd by Art made that up to Feke Bayard,

807
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,079
it looks like he is going to Colorado.

808
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: That is a safety.

809
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: Now. I don't care about the name. What I do

810
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,760
care about is you have done an incredible job in

811
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,840
the portal. Yes still need a safety, and yes still

812
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,320
need to tackle maybe one of those guys in the playoff.

813
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Maybe you're doing some good old fashioned tampering. I hope

814
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,920
that you are right. All these very good teams left

815
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,679
in the playoff. I'm sure I have very deep depth

816
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,320
charts which somebody is not happy they're not playing. Now,

817
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239
those aren't the ideal guys to get necessarily, because like

818
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,920
we've talked about, I think you would you would prefer proven,

819
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,480
productive guys over potential talent guys. But those are two positions, Jake,

820
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,400
where you need bodies even as much as you need

821
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,519
a proven guy probably safety maybe a bit more than tackle.

822
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,320
Some about just bodies, but I think you still must

823
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,440
have both. And it's gonna be interesting to watch over

824
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,639
this final few weeks here in this first window, and

825
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,079
then who comes out in that second window in which

826
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:49,599
things get very expensive, who you will seek to pursue, Uh, Tata,

827
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:50,679
You've a masked some names.

828
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 7: Is there anybody in particular that you like here? Always

829
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,480
get concerned. You're to join it as well if you want,

830
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,800
always get concerned with injuries? Is nappen Jalen Catalan from

831
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,639
UNLV will actually be his seventh year.

832
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 3: Nice name. He played at Arkansas for four years. This

833
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:08,159
is actually his.

834
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 7: Seventh year of college. Because he's dealt with so many injuries,

835
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,159
but you go look at what he's done. He played

836
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:17,199
in double digit games in twenty twenty at Arkansas ninety

837
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,880
nine tackles three interceptions. He played fourteen games last year

838
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,880
for UNLV ninety six, tackles five interceptions. So sure he's

839
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,800
dealt with some injuries. He's been in out of the lineup,

840
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,519
but when the guy's been on the field, he's been productive.

841
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you got man.

842
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: You have to get some safety help unless you plan

843
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,239
on moving some guys around, because it wasn't good last

844
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,519
year and you lost those it wasn't good, you know

845
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:42,880
what I mean.

846
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,039
Speaker 2: You're saying, like when the safeties are the worst, those

847
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:46,599
are the games that you lost like that.

848
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,119
Speaker 5: And I'm saying, like the guys that played bad last

849
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,360
year the year waiting or transferred.

850
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like even the.

851
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 5: Guys that started last year that weren't good are going elsewhere,

852
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,760
are either moving on.

853
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,119
Speaker 3: You got to improve there, yep.

854
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,559
Speaker 5: And I know you've got a couple of guys that

855
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,360
can kind of play corner, can play stark and play safety.

856
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,679
Speaker 3: I think you need to go be one of safety.

857
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Ass safety.

858
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank me. Somebody that's interesting. I mean you

859
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:18,639
and LV just finished off an eleven and three season.

860
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,119
Speaker 5: No, and he's he's played really, I mean, injuries are

861
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,199
certainly a part of his story unfortunately, but he no,

862
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,840
I mean, you know the name because he's played well.

863
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,559
He played well against Ali Shoue a couple of times.

864
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:29,800
But like that's that's kind of the mold that I'm

865
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,719
talking about. Don't get a tweener.

866
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, not that that's bad.

867
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: Look, I was one of those.

868
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 5: It's okay, but sometimes you just need the finished product

869
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,079
of what it is and where it is.

870
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: Uh moose Uh And when when you all are talking

871
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,800
portal on af R, what are your targets that that you.

872
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: Have your vision?

873
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: Got to have this, yes, this wise or if you

874
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:57,159
want names you.

875
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,639
Speaker 4: Know, I mean, I mean I think everyone's got the

876
00:42:58,639 --> 00:42:59,320
same at this point.

877
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,159
Speaker 6: Now what they've done, I mean the ones I really

878
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:06,360
looked at before were edge, safety, tight end, and wide receiver.

879
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,719
Now you're down to safety and tackle. Really is which

880
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,360
I mean they've they've hit everywhere, They've hit everywhere else.

881
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,519
But I mean even even a guy like Bayer, who

882
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,519
I mean, yeah, they wanted why wouldn't you? Guy just

883
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:18,639
had a really productive season in his first season, starting

884
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,360
but again it was one season. There was just one

885
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,639
season starting, So yeah, I mean, I think you can

886
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:25,559
even look at that like, yeah, he's more productive, he's

887
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:27,880
more proven than what you have. But with three years left,

888
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,400
is that still just the immediate plug and play guy

889
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:30,960
that you've gotten?

890
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: It really every other position.

891
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:34,639
Speaker 3: So far in the portal, so it's so many.

892
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: Definitely keep an eye on, continue to keep an eye

893
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,199
on post playoff as this is something we're going to

894
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,760
see more and more too, where players that are known

895
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,920
to be transferring or maybe haven't announce yet, but they're

896
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,920
sticking out with their team for now and then they

897
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,559
will go pursue their fortune here in a in a

898
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,320
bit at some.

899
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: Point, I know we don't have time here in this segment,

900
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,559
but we can come back to what you mentioned there

901
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,840
the second portal window and how expensive it really becomes

902
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,039
and you overpay for players that are mid players, you

903
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,440
just do it happened last year, Like we can go

904
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,239
back and we could pull the tape of the players

905
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,880
that we sat here and we talked about for like

906
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,199
two to three weeks and what they got and how

907
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,719
much money like they were able to just scheme away

908
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,719
to the production that they actually had.

909
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,159
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, it's no. You don't want

910
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:23,639
to get there.

911
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: You don't want to get there like these d tackles

912
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thinking they're sweet out there they and good on them.

913
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Speaker 3: They're getting millions for being Okay, you don't want to

914
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there on the homepage. And you want to schedule that

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maintenance as well, because at some point you'll turn on

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the heater.

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Speaker 3: I don't know when, but at some point you will.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to shock the system, so make sure

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your unit's working like it's supposed to.

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