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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty and this is kfive am a six forty

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<v Speaker 1>bill handle here on a foody Friday, September thirteenth, on

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<v Speaker 1>a shaking Friday. Well aaskill was a shaky Thursday, but

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<v Speaker 1>sort of after shake shakes. And that this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I get paid what I do, because I am so

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<v Speaker 1>good at this making it clear and concise and to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. I'm going to be talking about shaking. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up the next hour, Susan Huff seismologist, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the earthquake that happened yesterday and the after shocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh also, before we get into the Boeing strike, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to quickly remind you about what Amy and Neil

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<v Speaker 1>are doing to help the Union Rescue mission. And they

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<v Speaker 1>are both repelling twenty five stories down from the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of the Universal Hilton September twenty seventh and twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you each of you different days or you

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<v Speaker 1>both at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're both doing Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, Okay, well I think the people can do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you raise a thousand dollars or more. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to write the check. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>raise a thousand dollars or more, you can also repel

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<v Speaker 1>down that building. And notice that I wasn't invited to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called over the Edge, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>promotion because I'm assuming everybody assumes I'm already over the

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<v Speaker 1>edge and I've reached that point. I don't know anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Their goals to reach two million people. They help the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless at the Union Rescue Mission. It's a great event.

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<v Speaker 1>So go to just help one dot org. Just help

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<v Speaker 1>one dot org and watch these two people on the

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Team do their repelling. You have to yell all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down. You know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling I will be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to record that too, I mean yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play it on the show. That'll be a nice

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<v Speaker 1>promo intro segment. Maybe I'm going to dress like a

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<v Speaker 1>big fat spider Man. Yeah, that would be great. You

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<v Speaker 1>and a body spider Man suit. That would be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, yes, stomachman. All right, Boeing, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three thousand union members have started walking off the job.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the union members at Boeing, the International Machinist Unions,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are they've taken a hike. Now. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things about Boeing. Very interesting company, enormous influence, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean insane influence. It was at one point the only

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<v Speaker 1>major heavy aircraft manufacture in the world. Airbus hadn't existed,

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing owned it completely. There was McDonald douglas and a

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<v Speaker 1>few others, but nothing like Boeing. And they were considered

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the finest manufacturers on the planet. They

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<v Speaker 1>were the pride of the United States, help with our

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<v Speaker 1>balance of power. And then McDonald douglas bought Boeing and

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<v Speaker 1>then it went in the toilet. The being counters came

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<v Speaker 1>in and so Boeing has one non union plant, and

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<v Speaker 1>you would and this is a company that has been

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<v Speaker 1>unionized for a very long time. So contract is up.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been negotiating. They have one hundred and fifty thousand employees,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and they have been negotiating with the union.

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<v Speaker 1>The union cut a deal with Boeing. They said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a pretty good deal too, twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent raise over four years. The new plant they're building

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<v Speaker 1>none is union instead of non union. And guess what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Union said no, the worker said no, because here's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens during the course of a strike negotiations. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>management of the union representing the workers, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>in and negotiate with the company. And they will negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>and either goes on for a long time, either a

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<v Speaker 1>strike or goes right. They usually come to terms and

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<v Speaker 1>then union management goes back to the workers who have

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<v Speaker 1>to vote on the contract. I just can't arbitrarily say

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<v Speaker 1>we have a contract. The voters have the workers have

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<v Speaker 1>to vote the union members. And what they did is

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<v Speaker 1>the union management went to the voters. The union members

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<v Speaker 1>said we've got a deal. Okay, let's go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Union by ninety six percent said nope, ain't going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're back on the negotia at the negotiating table,

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<v Speaker 1>they have no deal. And what happens when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a deal. You're not happy with the working conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I talk about crazy safe, you know, working

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hour days or anything of that, but no benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>work hours over time guarantees, pension plans. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are normally negotiated certain plants opening up being

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<v Speaker 1>union or non union as in this case, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the vote is taken. Actually one percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>when the union hierarchy tells the union members, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a deal, they vote unanimously or almost unanimously to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward. Not this time around, they said no, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it took the union leadership for a

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<v Speaker 1>loop and now they're back to square one. Boeing is saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a deal. What's going on. We're in good faith.

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<v Speaker 1>You said yes, and the union membership membership said absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're going to see thirty three thousand while

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing thirty three thousand workers union members walking off,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to shut down Boweing just shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>They will not be producing any new jets. And depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how long this goes, it's another hit to Boeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing is in trouble. Its stock is down sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>year to year. They've had remember the Max crashes, the

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<v Speaker 1>Max eight crashes, and they had the door flying off,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've had all kinds of problems the MCASSA, the

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<v Speaker 1>software system, and what they did was beyond horrific. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know we've talked about this before. The shortcuts

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<v Speaker 1>they've taken so be prepared for that'll be a big

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<v Speaker 1>story for a while. Be prepared for big news on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And just before we end, just a quick story. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time I get on an airplane, I always ask what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of aircraft it is. And it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't Boeing, I was really uncomfortable. And now

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<v Speaker 1>it's the exact opposite. If it was if it's Airbus,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be on that plane. And I always look

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<v Speaker 1>at the little placard, the registration placard that you have

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<v Speaker 1>in the and the doorjam. They have those on the

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes and they're like Vin. You know those little tin

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<v Speaker 1>Vin placards things, those metal ones that go in the

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<v Speaker 1>door jam, and it'll tell you what year the airplane

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<v Speaker 1>was built. That's serial number. I mean, it's all right

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<v Speaker 1>there and it's VIN number. And if it is a

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<v Speaker 1>newer plane, it used to be if you had a

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<v Speaker 1>new plane, oh my god, you had the safest pl

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Youdn't have to you know, brand new parts everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I questioned the new plane. If I got on

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane the other day to Las Vegas and the

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<v Speaker 1>plane was twenty two years old. It was a Bowling

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty seven and I said, okay, I feel pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been on planes that were brand new, and

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<v Speaker 1>I start sweating bullets. Who would have ever thought that's boweling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday we had an earthquake which hit us right on

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<v Speaker 1>the air. I think it was seven point thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and Amy was doing her news and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>she felt it and started shaking. Now, I happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Orange County at the time. I'm broadcasting from

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County about half the time, and I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>it at all, but everybody else did. With this. Susan Huff,

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<v Speaker 1>a seismologist with the US Geological Survey in Pasadena. Susan,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us. Greatly appreciated by the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do I call you Susan or your excellency or doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Huff or how do you? How are you known?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Ryan Seacrest once called me doctor Sue. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was cute. But Susan is flying.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough. Now let's talk about what happened yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a normal or earthquake. It wasn't very big

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<v Speaker 1>relative to what we've had here. But what we're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>is the frequency of the quakes that are four point

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<v Speaker 1>zero or higher. That may be problematic. Would you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot there to unpack. You know, earthquakes

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<v Speaker 3>around California. On a normal here we have about twelve

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<v Speaker 3>magnitude four greater earthquakes somewhere in the region. This year,

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<v Speaker 3>we've had somewhat more than that. But trying to read

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<v Speaker 3>the tea leaves is just it hasn't been a winning

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<v Speaker 3>game in seismology. That earthquakes still like popcorn kernels, These

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<v Speaker 3>little guys, moderately little guys, and they pop off apparently

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<v Speaker 3>on their own time, and nobody been able to find

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<v Speaker 3>any meaningful patterns that y'all want to know if the

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<v Speaker 3>big one's coming. We just don't have patterns. The one

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<v Speaker 3>thing we do have is statistics, and so when earthquakes happen,

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<v Speaker 3>we can calculate the odds of aftershocks and the odds

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<v Speaker 3>of earthquakes bigger than the one that's just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But does that translate at all other than this one

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<v Speaker 1>was bigger than that one. We haven't had one in

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<v Speaker 1>X number of years. The last big big one we

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<v Speaker 1>had the nineteen oh six quake in San Francisco, the

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<v Speaker 1>north Ridge quake, the one in Alaska, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>took out Fairbanks or Anchorage or whatever it was. Literally

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<v Speaker 1>the entire waterfront disappeared. Is there any rhyme or reason

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<v Speaker 1>or is it truly just popcorn kernels popping?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the answer is yes or no. That you

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<v Speaker 3>stand back and earthquakes from the San Andreas happened, but

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<v Speaker 3>from regularity every few hundred years. The last big one

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<v Speaker 3>near us was actually eighteen fifty seven, so that was

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<v Speaker 3>a while ago. So in a geological sense, they might

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<v Speaker 3>be fairly regular, and we estimate that those odds, and

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<v Speaker 3>we use those those numbers to produce hazard maps. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem is human time skifts are too short. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two earthquakes happen one hundred years apart, or one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty years apart. That really in geologic terms, that's close,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm here in terms that just makes all the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday, shake alerts that did occur. With the technology today

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<v Speaker 1>we have on our phones the apps, and we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get anywhere from what a few seconds to a

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<v Speaker 1>minute notice the shake alerts happened after the shaking started.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you comment on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so shake alert is really designed to give you

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<v Speaker 3>warning when those big earthquakes happen. You know, when there's

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<v Speaker 3>an earthquake on the sand Andrea's fault or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something which can cause damage, and then the system captures

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<v Speaker 3>the earthquake that started and it has a few seconds

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<v Speaker 3>to get the information to people, so you get that

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<v Speaker 3>heads up. If you're right on top of a magnitude

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<v Speaker 3>four and a half, most of the people who feel

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<v Speaker 3>it are going to be too close. There just isn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to be time to get the warning out. So

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<v Speaker 3>the system isn't really designed to provide meaningful warning for

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<v Speaker 3>four and a half and those earthquakes aren't going to

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<v Speaker 3>cause damage in California and imagery.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have earthquake insurance for your home? I do not.

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<v Speaker 3>We have spent a fair amount of money doing retrofitting

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<v Speaker 3>on the crypt walls. For example, it's an older home.

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<v Speaker 3>The chimney was knocked bound by the Wittier Nearrow's earthquake

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<v Speaker 3>before we bought it, and so it's replaced with a

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<v Speaker 3>modular chimney. So it's a decision for every homeowner, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of weigh the cost benefit and hopefully to

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<v Speaker 3>put resources they can into making sure the home is

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<v Speaker 3>safe from an earthquake.

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<v Speaker 1>Countan, are you aware of what's going to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>your credibility if a big quake comes and you are

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<v Speaker 1>not covered and we're looking at the rubble that your

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<v Speaker 3>So there was one house in the area that I

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<v Speaker 3>was not willing to purchase because I wasn't sure it

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough. And that's something that I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>When we talk about, you know, and we're sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the San Andreas fault, we hear about that all all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Of course, that's very southern California. And then

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<v Speaker 1>these other faults. From what I understand, there are like

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so California has lots of and we know about

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<v Speaker 3>the San Andreas it's the main plate boundary fault, but

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<v Speaker 3>It's that kink and you're trying to fly two plates

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<v Speaker 3>these other faults that go through the area, mostly east west.

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<v Speaker 3>As a consequence of thought, so yeah, the San Andreas

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<v Speaker 3>us a little bit. The strong is shaking from an

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got a little bit of distance from the

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<v Speaker 3>San Andreas. It is these these faults minifolds through the

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Susan huh, thank you greatly, appreciate your time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, all right, we'll do that again. She knows

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<v Speaker 1>her stuff. Although there's a real question, is too earthquake

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<v Speaker 1>insurance at her house. We'll have that discussion at some

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<v Speaker 1>point when the big one hits. Now, as we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how we live in southern California, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us live along the beach. Well, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Southern California is the beach. It just happens

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<v Speaker 1>and say, not only does it is emblematic of do

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<v Speaker 1>I have that word right, emblematic of Southern California, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is movie land. The beach is along southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're absolutely gorgeous. And you've heard of wars

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<v Speaker 1>being fought for water, for territory, sand wars are being fought.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do we do when you go to

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<v Speaker 1>You go, you have these beautiful beaches, You sit in

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big, big beach fan, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are. And here is the problem. Beaches are

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing in some places and not in others. And the wars,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are interesting wars we're talking about legal wars

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<v Speaker 1>and some physical stuff going on are happening. It's among

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<v Speaker 1>money to fight these fights. But you have cities now

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<v Speaker 1>fighting each other. Ocean Side for example, and San Juan

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<v Speaker 1>cupastrant Nos, San Juan cupas Stran I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oceanside is in one fight. Laguna Beach is another fight

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the sands on the beach, and people who

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<v Speaker 1>own beachfront property like beachfront property and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep their beachfront property because they spent millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for their homes. Now in California, you may not know this,

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<v Speaker 1>but that beach belongs to the state. You can have

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<v Speaker 1>nobody owns. Which is why you can go to Malibu

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<v Speaker 1>and walk along the beach and look up and you

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<v Speaker 1>see houses that belong to I don't know, Dustin Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Eisner, Pierce Brosnan, major people would pay twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars from their homes and they're not happy with

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<v Speaker 1>people romping around their sand. And there have been lawsuits

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<v Speaker 1>been these homeowners that have blocked access to the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the illegal. There have been homeowners who have

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<v Speaker 1>done everything they can to keep people away because well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm spending twenty five million dollars and I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>beach from property, I don't want this riff raft walking

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<v Speaker 1>in front of my house. Those lawsuits are still going

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<v Speaker 1>on even though the land is owned by the state,

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<v Speaker 1>and the latest has to do with sand and people

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<v Speaker 1>moving sand in and out. Now. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>geologically speaking, you can have one beach next to another

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<v Speaker 1>beach and one is gaining beachfront, the other one is

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<v Speaker 1>losing beachfront because of the way the oceans and the

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<v Speaker 1>tides roll along and sand is deposited or taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>and therein lies the problem rich people having less beach,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, you have other people having more beach, so

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<v Speaker 1>the land is worth more. And by the way, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Capistrano Beach not San Juan. Capistano Beach next to

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<v Speaker 1>Pendleton ocean Side is a case in point. Capistrano Beach

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<v Speaker 1>is gaining, ocean Side is losing. And you have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people who have actually who own homes. They

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<v Speaker 1>have gone in with the tractors, you know, the big

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<v Speaker 1>buckets and actually move beach from one beach to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have to have a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. That's a lawsuit going on. It's the sand Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna see more and more of those cities

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<v Speaker 1>suing each other, neighbor shuing each other. What's the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line the takeaway here? Why in God's name was you

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to buy beach front property in southern California?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, to any beach that rich people live on,

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<v Speaker 1>Newport Beach, Malibu. And what are you paying twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars for a piece of land that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to put your house on still in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget about the sand up along the

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<v Speaker 1>crack of your butt. That's very important. I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach. Do you go to the beach? Neil?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure on occasion? Okay? Amy? Are you a beachgoer?

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<v Speaker 2>I love the beach and I almost never go Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Kno beach all the time? Huh? And and

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<v Speaker 1>last one, yeah, beach.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the beach, love the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the beach. If you really want beach, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the nearest hardware store and pick up thirty

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<v Speaker 1>grit sandpaper and it does exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You also fight land and mountains and the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think we're done with that right, And a

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<v Speaker 1>quick word about what Amy and Neil are doing on

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the twenty seventh Right of September, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's going over two days twenty seven and twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>They are repelling down the Universal Hilton in Universal City

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<v Speaker 1>and repelling twenty five stories. Can't wait to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you would like to repel, you can join.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter of fact, you can help across the board for

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<v Speaker 1>the charity. It's the Union Rescue Mission and it's helping

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless people. And just go to just help one

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Just help one dot org. Donate if you

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<v Speaker 1>can come up with one thousand dollars or get a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people to come up with a thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to repel down the outside of that building.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see repelling down the inside of the building.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called using an elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd probably be smarter, Yeah, a lot easier to do,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get serious for a moment, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one is this is a tough one. I've been covering

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<v Speaker 1>this for a while, and it's something that I am

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<v Speaker 1>particularly engaged in. And that's what's going on in Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>and what's happening in Israel, and that has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the Kamas Israeli war. And as you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally biased on this one. So right there, you know

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<v Speaker 1>where I come from. I have friends in Israel, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to Israel. I'm obviously of the he break American persuasion.

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<v Speaker 1>And here the here the parts that I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand from all sides. Well, first of all, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>been another one, another strike, a deadly strike on a

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<v Speaker 1>that this compound that was bombed was a command center

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<v Speaker 1>for Hamas. Kamas says that's not true at all. It

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<v Speaker 1>was simply a shelter and a school, That's what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more, nothing less. And now the condemnation of these

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<v Speaker 1>bombings are getting stronger and more often. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>un Britain denounced it completely, saying this is horrific. It

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<v Speaker 1>is government of Katar calling it a horrifying massacre. The

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<v Speaker 1>Brits are calling this unacceptable violation of international law and

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<v Speaker 1>here's the part that I don't understand. The UN workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, most of them are Palestinians who

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<v Speaker 1>work for the UN. There nobody has admitted there are

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<v Speaker 1>any militants in any of these places have been bombed.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't exist. Every school, every shelter, every encampment that

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<v Speaker 1>has been attacked by Israel, Israel says there were militants there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we went Nope, no militants, no command centers, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>no tunnels coming out in bedrooms hospitals. That's just not true.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would expect the I would expect Hamas to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but the UN saying that, and then Israel

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<v Speaker 1>saying they are command centers. One of two things is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Either Israel is bombing civilians just for the hell of it,

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<v Speaker 1>or those are command centers and strongholds of militants who

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<v Speaker 1>embed themselves into the civilian population. Okay, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do with that? Who do you believe? Now? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Israel is attacking civilians for the hell of attacking civilians? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do. I think they are attacking civilians, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Their purpose is to root out militants. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what Israel says, and it makes sense only because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you imagine if it comes out that

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<v Speaker 1>they really did bomb a school just to kill the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>then they're on the same level of these cockroach terrorists

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<v Speaker 1>who bomb schools and well, for example, the ones Ramas

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<v Speaker 1>that took twelve hundred Israeli lives and raped and pillaged

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<v Speaker 1>innocent civilians. You know that was for the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>killing civilians. Israel bombing Gaza and I mean into the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>is it for the purpose of just we want to

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<v Speaker 1>take out a civilian at Arab population? You know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of Israel is Arab. There Israeli citizens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you think if they wanted to kill Arabs, they start

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<v Speaker 1>at home. And you know that it's Israel's a democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that those Arab, that Arab population has Arab

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<v Speaker 1>legislators in the Kanesse there are Arabs there now are

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<v Speaker 1>Arab treated like second class citizens and Israel you bet

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<v Speaker 1>you know this. We are all one, lovely people and

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<v Speaker 1>we're democracy and we treat everybody the same. That's a croc.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is is Israel committing genocide as is

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<v Speaker 1>being reported, and the accusation and Hamas is w the

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<v Speaker 1>pr war. And this is the part that I have

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<v Speaker 1>a rough time with as people are as Hamas refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to come to the table and Israel refuses to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the table for all their reasons on each side,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is Hamas would rather have Gaza, the entire

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<v Speaker 1>of Gaza, be a Rebbel pile, and not just forty thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>but hundreds of thousands of Palestinians killed. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>they stay in power, and as long as Israel says

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<v Speaker 1>we will not have Hamas stay in power, there is

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<v Speaker 1>the war. There's the war. And so as I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and we're going to talk more about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for the next several months. It's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>this has been going on. All right, kf I am

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