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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tony GM here as always with Tom our time.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Tony?

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<v Speaker 3>It is going just fine. Got a chance to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of look forward. Now we did our Big ten media

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<v Speaker 3>Day stuff, and now it is time to actually focus

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<v Speaker 3>on the season itself, or at least the sort of

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about the Big ten medi days being like

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<v Speaker 3>the unofficial start of the season. The start of fall

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<v Speaker 3>camp is like the like slightly more official startup season.

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<v Speaker 1>You see people tweet now like only five more saturdays

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<v Speaker 1>to go. I was like, nah, fam, it's here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is football has begun, it has sprung. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we like to talk about and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about in these next two shows

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<v Speaker 1>basically who has the most to gain? Who can make

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<v Speaker 1>the most of their fall camp opportunity. Today we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about the offensive side of the ball, where

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of newcomers, a bunch of established guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>only a handful of really like star type of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's a bunch of different guys who

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<v Speaker 1>have the most to gain or who can make a

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<v Speaker 1>sizeable rise. Tom, give me your first guy that you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think, to me, this is a pretty easy one.

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<v Speaker 3>And the guy with the most to gain in fall

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<v Speaker 3>camp to me is Ian Moore, who is one of

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<v Speaker 3>two things is going to happen with Ian Moore. He

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<v Speaker 3>is either going to be almost certainly the starting left

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<v Speaker 3>tackle of Ohio State if he is deemed to be

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best five, or he's going to not

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<v Speaker 3>be a starter for Ohio State at least for now.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, to me.

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<v Speaker 3>The delta between those two is pretty big if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the starting left tackle or not starting

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<v Speaker 3>at all at least to start the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I think he's someone who has the

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<v Speaker 2>most on the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there is probably a guy who is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the conversation for right guard who might also be

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<v Speaker 3>in this conversation. We'll see if you choose to take

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<v Speaker 3>him next to or if I get to talk offensive

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<v Speaker 3>line again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's interesting you say most on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking about this, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could say Ian Moore has the most to lose in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of that starting position, where most view it like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes the most sense, and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the left tackle but if he doesn't win that, nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him as the right guard really, and who

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<v Speaker 1>they are talking about is the right guard is possibly

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Padilla, who nobody is really talking about is being

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<v Speaker 1>a starter. So it's me, Yeah, you could talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him having the most to gain this fall camp, because

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<v Speaker 1>what does he lose if he doesn't win a job?

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<v Speaker 1>But he's still just your backup center, your backup guard,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the sixth guy on the line or the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the line, which he already is. So really

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of got nothing to lose and only things

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<v Speaker 1>to gain, and that that's a sizable gain to go

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<v Speaker 1>from reserve offensive lineman to now your starting right guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are people who would prefer that

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<v Speaker 1>because it would keep Austin Siraveld at left tackle. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I say people, I'm not talking about coaches they

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<v Speaker 1>want the best five. I'm just saying people like us

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside, in terms of just having watched football

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, do you really want to move

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<v Speaker 1>your left tackle? You're good established left tackle inside for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who has not established and maybe an upgrade or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least the same Ian Moore, do you

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<v Speaker 1>like while we all expect him to be left tackle, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is an acceptable performance from him this year slightly

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<v Speaker 1>worse than Austin Siraveld.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good question, and you know that's not

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<v Speaker 3>how the decision is going to get made. The decision

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get made Austin Sierrevel that left tackle

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<v Speaker 3>plus Josh Pititia at right guard, and you know, could

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<v Speaker 3>it be Gay van Cycle, Sure it could be. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of going based off of where things seem

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<v Speaker 3>like they're trending heading into fall camp. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>is it going to be Austin Servell at left tackle

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh Pittitia at right guard or is it going

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<v Speaker 3>to be Ian Moore at left tackle and Austin Sirivell

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<v Speaker 3>at right guard? Which of those two combinations is better?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, that's a lot of moving parts where

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just one guy head to head versus another.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a how well does Austin Serevel translate into

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<v Speaker 3>the guard position? My sense is that he should move

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<v Speaker 3>in there and be very very effective there, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>another piece of this conversation. So yeah, I know that

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<v Speaker 3>we have been talking about it all year, as probably

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<v Speaker 3>Ian Moore is more likely to be the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>ends up in that starting lineup. But we just we

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen Josh Pittiet. Josh Pitdty was banged up so

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<v Speaker 3>much last fall he missed the spring.

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<v Speaker 2>We just haven't seen him.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's entirely possible if Josh buddy is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent healthy, ready to go out and really

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<v Speaker 3>kind of seizes the day and seizes the position in

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<v Speaker 3>fall camp. It wouldn't It would absolutely not shock me

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<v Speaker 3>to see that happen, because, as you said, there is

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<v Speaker 3>certainly an argument to be made for if it ain't broke,

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<v Speaker 3>don't fix it at left tackle, and it was not.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not broken last year with Austin Sierveld at all.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so let's move on to I think we

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<v Speaker 3>got to talk wide receivers here, and you know this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is one of these things where I could

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<v Speaker 3>say and even about four names here at the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver position, and Tony would go, yeah, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 3>So Tony, I will start with Devin McEwen just because

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<v Speaker 3>he's someone who you know, I think he's There are

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<v Speaker 3>other guys that you could see slotting in a couple

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<v Speaker 3>different positions. Devin McEwan feels like he's your Z and

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<v Speaker 3>can he kind of sees that starting position at the

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<v Speaker 3>Z receiver spot. That's the you know, we just we'll

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<v Speaker 3>refresh everyone's memory. The X is kind of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tall possession receiver type. That's sort of you know you

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<v Speaker 3>like Ben Victor was kind of an X receiver Z.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your sort of speedy downfield guy. Devin Smith was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the prototypical X receiver for Ohio State. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where there's sort of slotting Devin McEwan in right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and the question is just can he win that job?

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<v Speaker 2>Can he?

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen him do it at Utsa, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty big jump from Utsa up to Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 3>so can he take that necessary step. The passing game

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<v Speaker 3>this spring was a little wonky, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>true every spring. It's rare that you have a passing

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<v Speaker 3>game and in the spring that everyone kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes wow, two thumbs up. I loved it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>better than kats. It just that doesn't happen in the spring.

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<v Speaker 3>But can it happen in the fall, because it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to start happening for someone in the fall, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think Devin McEwan is right at the top of my

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<v Speaker 3>list of people that you really you need to start

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<v Speaker 3>happening for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if you can have it happen for a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran who has been in ranked opponent games, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been in big games and has produced and the other

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<v Speaker 1>games not really produced so much against the time opponents

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<v Speaker 1>because he's playing for Texas San Antonio and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier for the Texas or the Texas A and

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<v Speaker 1>MS that he's playing against to locate him and hold

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<v Speaker 1>him back. If he can establish himself, like if he

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<v Speaker 1>erases the doubt, then that would be huge, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is doubt right now. So yeah, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to gain for him and person you know, personally, professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to gain, you know, for Devin McEwan,

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<v Speaker 1>who still has another year of eligibility if he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come back as well. So even if he's even

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<v Speaker 1>if he did what he did like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, it's like forty two receptions. I think Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State would take forty two receptions right now. But is

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<v Speaker 1>it for four hundred and forty yards like it was

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<v Speaker 1>at UTSA or is it for six hundred, which Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State would much rather have from their Z receivers. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, there's a lot for him to

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<v Speaker 1>gain here. He's somebody asked to. As you said, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>has to step up at receiver. And you know, does

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<v Speaker 1>it have to be somebody who emerges as the starter

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<v Speaker 1>or can it just be like three guys emerge fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent more than they were? You know, like, is it

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing? Would you rather have two guys

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<v Speaker 1>or one guy and three other guys that you know

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<v Speaker 1>they they you can't ignore them, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if Devin McEwan can just become a guy, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be huge. And yeah, you can say the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about any of the receivers being that that person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I look at the list and I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like it's it's kind of just is it

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<v Speaker 1>lazy time on my part to say, Chris Henry Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Who go ahead tell me I'm lazy. No, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you text me all the time the how lazy I am.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, it's it's it's not lazy because then it

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<v Speaker 3>allows you to put Churse Henry Jr. His name in

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<v Speaker 3>the title, and therefore that, and people love Chris Henry

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<v Speaker 3>Junior content, so therefore I think it's less lazy and

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<v Speaker 3>more strategic strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, but really there's an opportunity for a

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<v Speaker 1>freshman to step up and emerge, and not just him

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<v Speaker 1>brock boys Well, you could throw it to your Quaid and

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<v Speaker 1>Guildford in there as well, and if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>also get everybody in there, say Jaden Rickets. There's opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>for the young guys Philip Bell does Z Jones like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not such an established group of receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody young can't come up and say, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if nobody wants the job, I'll take it. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know Chris Henry Junior has that physical ability kind of

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<v Speaker 1>plays the same position as Jeremiah Smith though, So then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe the real answer there is brock Boyd competing

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<v Speaker 1>against Devin McEwan for that Z spot, also Kyle Parker

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<v Speaker 1>in as well, mixing back between the slot and the Z.

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<v Speaker 1>So who has the most to gain whoever wins that

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<v Speaker 1>Z spot? I would say, and you can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and throw in any of three names in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you could throw You know, you haven't,

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<v Speaker 3>said Brandon Innis's name on this show, Boy Brandon Innis

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot to gain if he can really show

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<v Speaker 3>that he can take that next step after a solid

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<v Speaker 3>season last year, but a season that even he talked

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<v Speaker 3>about wasn't good enough. So can he take that next step?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you want to talk about Kyle Parker. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>He's someone who played for Cortez Hankton at LSU last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Cortez Hankton is a big Kyle Parker fan. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>you bring him with you. If you don't like him,

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<v Speaker 3>you can say, all right, we need to worry about

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<v Speaker 3>you anymore. And he brought him with him, So that

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<v Speaker 3>tells you a lot about what Cortez Hankton thinks that

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Parker could be. But again, to go from three

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<v Speaker 3>last year to can you be a six hundred yard

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<v Speaker 2>Even a five hundred yard receiver? You your question.

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<v Speaker 3>Earlier, would they rather have one guy who just lights

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<v Speaker 2>I think either one of those would be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you would, you would prefer that.

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<v Speaker 3>And if that's you know, Chris Henry Junior, Robrot Boyd

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<v Speaker 3>or whoever I mean, Kyle Parker, Brendan in this, whoever

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<v Speaker 2>But I think more.

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<v Speaker 3>Likely is if you can just get three or four

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<v Speaker 3>guys who just are better than last year. You get

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<v Speaker 3>three or four guys who are five hundred, six hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred yard receivers, and you have Jeremiah Smith on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side of the field. That's enough to kind

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<v Speaker 3>need to be. Uh my, next one, let's see I

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<v Speaker 3>had I had a lot of wide receivers listed here.

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<v Speaker 3>How about let's let's hit the running back room real

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<v Speaker 3>quick and let's just let's say Isaiah West because Bo Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Bo Jackson has set a baseline of yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is he's a thousand yard rusher as a true freshman,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be better as a sophomore. You're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take a step forward just because you're bigger, You're

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<v Speaker 3>you're healthier, you're more prepared, more physically prepared to play

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<v Speaker 3>a full college season. It feels like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>he's a twelve hundred yard back or a fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 3>yard back. Yeah, either one of those certainly possible. But

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<v Speaker 3>he should be as good as he was last year

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<v Speaker 3>or better. Isaiah West is someone who has missmissed so

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<v Speaker 3>much time between last spring, last fall camp, this spring,

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<v Speaker 3>portions of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Season, like he just was not.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like he hasn't been able to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he's been healthy, you've seen the flashes from him. So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he missed this spring. Now that he's back, now that

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<v Speaker 3>he's healthy, what does it look like in fall camp?

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<v Speaker 3>And can he earn himself you know, the really solid

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<v Speaker 3>RB two kind of position or you know, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>one one in one A or whatever. Can he really

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<v Speaker 3>earn himself a regular spot in that rotation for Carlos Lachlan,

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<v Speaker 3>Because if he can, I think he's someone who could

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<v Speaker 3>really be a breakout a star for Ohio State this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are other names in that running

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<v Speaker 1>back room as well, And I'll mention legend Bay just

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<v Speaker 1>so if I want to put in the title, I

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<v Speaker 1>can as well. But the name that I'm really thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about is in terms of most to gain, Turbo Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Josh Padilla, where everybody just understands,

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<v Speaker 1>like right now, probably not a starter, probably won't play

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<v Speaker 1>in most games unless there's in terms of offense, unless

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<v Speaker 1>there's a blowout or an injury or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a long way to go to get Turbo Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. But he has dealt with injuries, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's got some of the same skill set as Legend Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when everybody talks about Legend Bay, this Legend Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got another guy who is the second fastest

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<v Speaker 1>running back on the team and Turbo Rodgers, who had

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<v Speaker 1>some moments in fall camp last year that were very

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<v Speaker 1>good because he just gets lost. The defensive line loses

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<v Speaker 1>him basically, and then he just pops out and he

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<v Speaker 1>squirts out and he's gone. And I just wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>this is an opportunity for him in fall camp to

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<v Speaker 1>remind people that I'm still here. How was with the

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<v Speaker 1>number five running back in the twenty twenty five class,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have ability, I'm not going anywhere, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna play this year. Now, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>play four or five running backs? You can't. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I like there is a lot to gain in

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<v Speaker 1>fall camp. And another thing is like, well, the investment

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<v Speaker 1>has already been made in so many other people. Is

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<v Speaker 1>their room for him here in terms of playing time?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why fall camp is so important. You just

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<v Speaker 1>force the hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is not someone who you have to

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<v Speaker 3>earn your playing time. But this is not someone who

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<v Speaker 3>has to do something spectacular this fall to get Carlos

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<v Speaker 3>Lachlan to believe in Carlos Laughlin was recruiting Turbo Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>when he was still the running backs coach at Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is someone who has been a big, big

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<v Speaker 2>believer in in.

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<v Speaker 3>Turbo Rogers since Turbo Rodgers was just barely kind of showing.

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<v Speaker 2>Up on the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's kind of been a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>forgotten per in that running back room because again, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just been banged up so much. And you have other

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<v Speaker 3>guys who are guys who were in his class who

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<v Speaker 3>put up a thousand yard season or guys who were

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<v Speaker 3>in his class who plaited more than he did. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you have Legend Bay who's like everyone's going, ooh,

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<v Speaker 3>new shiny. And you bring in Jakobe Jackson, who's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of done it at times at Florida and who comes

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<v Speaker 3>in as a veteran, and it's very easy. And you

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<v Speaker 3>have you only have so many carries, so it's very

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<v Speaker 3>easy to go thro Well, I've said four running backs names.

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<v Speaker 2>You only need a pair in a spare.

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<v Speaker 3>Traditionally that's a pair in two spares. You certainly can't

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<v Speaker 3>go any deeper than that. You certainly can, or this

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<v Speaker 3>is an opportunity for him to potentially to climb that

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<v Speaker 3>ladder this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a pair in two spares does not rhyme, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it does. Two pairs and two spares, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's about exactly what they have in to him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to be able to use

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<v Speaker 1>them all, but there you go. Some names that have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to have room to basically make an impact,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the most to gain. As we said,

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere, my god.

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