Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Tony GM here as always with Tom our time.
Speaker 2: How's it going, Tony?
Speaker 3: It is going just fine. Got a chance to kind
Speaker 3: of look forward. Now we did our Big ten media
Speaker 3: Day stuff, and now it is time to actually focus
Speaker 3: on the season itself, or at least the sort of
Speaker 3: we talked about the Big ten medi days being like
Speaker 3: the unofficial start of the season. The start of fall
Speaker 3: camp is like the like slightly more official startup season.
Speaker 1: You see people tweet now like only five more saturdays
Speaker 1: to go. I was like, nah, fam, it's here. This
Speaker 1: is football has begun, it has sprung. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that we like to talk about and we're
Speaker 1: going to be talking about in these next two shows
Speaker 1: basically who has the most to gain? Who can make
Speaker 1: the most of their fall camp opportunity. Today we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about the offensive side of the ball, where
Speaker 1: a bunch of newcomers, a bunch of established guys, but
Speaker 1: only a handful of really like star type of people.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a bunch of different guys who
Speaker 1: have the most to gain or who can make a
Speaker 1: sizeable rise. Tom, give me your first guy that you're
Speaker 1: thinking about.
Speaker 3: So I think, to me, this is a pretty easy one.
Speaker 3: And the guy with the most to gain in fall
Speaker 3: camp to me is Ian Moore, who is one of
Speaker 3: two things is going to happen with Ian Moore. He
Speaker 3: is either going to be almost certainly the starting left
Speaker 3: tackle of Ohio State if he is deemed to be
Speaker 3: one of the best five, or he's going to not
Speaker 3: be a starter for Ohio State at least for now.
Speaker 2: And you know, to me.
Speaker 3: The delta between those two is pretty big if you're
Speaker 3: going to be the starting left tackle or not starting
Speaker 3: at all at least to start the year.
Speaker 2: So to me, I think he's someone who has the
Speaker 2: most on the line.
Speaker 3: I think there is probably a guy who is, you know,
Speaker 3: in the conversation for right guard who might also be
Speaker 3: in this conversation. We'll see if you choose to take
Speaker 3: him next to or if I get to talk offensive
Speaker 3: line again.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's interesting you say most on the line,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this, and I think you
Speaker 1: could say Ian Moore has the most to lose in
Speaker 1: terms of that starting position, where most view it like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes the most sense, and he's going to be
Speaker 1: the left tackle but if he doesn't win that, nobody's
Speaker 1: talking about him as the right guard really, and who
Speaker 1: they are talking about is the right guard is possibly
Speaker 1: Josh Padilla, who nobody is really talking about is being
Speaker 1: a starter. So it's me, Yeah, you could talk about
Speaker 1: him having the most to gain this fall camp, because
Speaker 1: what does he lose if he doesn't win a job?
Speaker 1: But he's still just your backup center, your backup guard,
Speaker 1: maybe the sixth guy on the line or the seventh
Speaker 1: guy on the line, which he already is. So really
Speaker 1: he's kind of got nothing to lose and only things
Speaker 1: to gain, and that that's a sizable gain to go
Speaker 1: from reserve offensive lineman to now your starting right guard.
Speaker 1: And I think there are people who would prefer that
Speaker 1: because it would keep Austin Siraveld at left tackle. And
Speaker 1: when I say people, I'm not talking about coaches they
Speaker 1: want the best five. I'm just saying people like us
Speaker 1: on the outside, in terms of just having watched football
Speaker 1: for a long time, do you really want to move
Speaker 1: your left tackle? You're good established left tackle inside for
Speaker 1: somebody who has not established and maybe an upgrade or
Speaker 1: at the very least the same Ian Moore, do you
Speaker 1: like while we all expect him to be left tackle, Like,
Speaker 1: what is an acceptable performance from him this year slightly
Speaker 1: worse than Austin Siraveld.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, and you know that's not
Speaker 3: how the decision is going to get made. The decision
Speaker 3: is going to get made Austin Sierrevel that left tackle
Speaker 3: plus Josh Pititia at right guard, and you know, could
Speaker 3: it be Gay van Cycle, Sure it could be. We're
Speaker 3: just kind of going based off of where things seem
Speaker 3: like they're trending heading into fall camp. But you know,
Speaker 3: is it going to be Austin Servell at left tackle
Speaker 3: and Josh Pittitia at right guard or is it going
Speaker 3: to be Ian Moore at left tackle and Austin Sirivell
Speaker 3: at right guard? Which of those two combinations is better?
Speaker 3: And you know, that's a lot of moving parts where
Speaker 3: it's not just one guy head to head versus another.
Speaker 3: There's also a how well does Austin Serevel translate into
Speaker 3: the guard position? My sense is that he should move
Speaker 3: in there and be very very effective there, but that's
Speaker 3: another piece of this conversation. So yeah, I know that
Speaker 3: we have been talking about it all year, as probably
Speaker 3: Ian Moore is more likely to be the guy who
Speaker 3: ends up in that starting lineup. But we just we
Speaker 3: haven't seen Josh Pittiet. Josh Pitdty was banged up so
Speaker 3: much last fall he missed the spring.
Speaker 2: We just haven't seen him.
Speaker 3: So it's entirely possible if Josh buddy is, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent healthy, ready to go out and really
Speaker 3: kind of seizes the day and seizes the position in
Speaker 3: fall camp. It wouldn't It would absolutely not shock me
Speaker 3: to see that happen, because, as you said, there is
Speaker 3: certainly an argument to be made for if it ain't broke,
Speaker 3: don't fix it at left tackle, and it was not.
Speaker 3: It was not broken last year with Austin Sierveld at all.
Speaker 3: All right, so let's move on to I think we
Speaker 3: got to talk wide receivers here, and you know this
Speaker 3: is this is one of these things where I could
Speaker 3: say and even about four names here at the wide
Speaker 3: receiver position, and Tony would go, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 3: So Tony, I will start with Devin McEwen just because
Speaker 3: he's someone who you know, I think he's There are
Speaker 3: other guys that you could see slotting in a couple
Speaker 3: different positions. Devin McEwan feels like he's your Z and
Speaker 3: can he kind of sees that starting position at the
Speaker 3: Z receiver spot. That's the you know, we just we'll
Speaker 3: refresh everyone's memory. The X is kind of the you know,
Speaker 3: tall possession receiver type. That's sort of you know you
Speaker 3: like Ben Victor was kind of an X receiver Z.
Speaker 3: That's your sort of speedy downfield guy. Devin Smith was
Speaker 3: kind of the prototypical X receiver for Ohio State. That's
Speaker 3: where there's sort of slotting Devin McEwan in right now,
Speaker 3: and the question is just can he win that job?
Speaker 2: Can he?
Speaker 3: We have seen him do it at Utsa, but that's
Speaker 3: a pretty big jump from Utsa up to Ohio State,
Speaker 3: so can he take that necessary step. The passing game
Speaker 3: this spring was a little wonky, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: true every spring. It's rare that you have a passing
Speaker 3: game and in the spring that everyone kind of.
Speaker 2: Goes wow, two thumbs up. I loved it. It was
Speaker 2: better than kats. It just that doesn't happen in the spring.
Speaker 3: But can it happen in the fall, because it needs
Speaker 3: to start happening for someone in the fall, And I
Speaker 3: think Devin McEwan is right at the top of my
Speaker 3: list of people that you really you need to start
Speaker 3: happening for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you can have it happen for a
Speaker 1: veteran who has been in ranked opponent games, like he's
Speaker 1: been in big games and has produced and the other
Speaker 1: games not really produced so much against the time opponents
Speaker 1: because he's playing for Texas San Antonio and it's a
Speaker 1: lot easier for the Texas or the Texas A and
Speaker 1: MS that he's playing against to locate him and hold
Speaker 1: him back. If he can establish himself, like if he
Speaker 1: erases the doubt, then that would be huge, and I
Speaker 1: think there is doubt right now. So yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a lot to gain for him and person you know, personally, professionally,
Speaker 1: there's a lot to gain, you know, for Devin McEwan,
Speaker 1: who still has another year of eligibility if he wanted
Speaker 1: to come back as well. So even if he's even
Speaker 1: if he did what he did like a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, it's like forty two receptions. I think Ohio
Speaker 1: State would take forty two receptions right now. But is
Speaker 1: it for four hundred and forty yards like it was
Speaker 1: at UTSA or is it for six hundred, which Ohio
Speaker 1: State would much rather have from their Z receivers. So
Speaker 1: I think you're right, there's a lot for him to
Speaker 1: gain here. He's somebody asked to. As you said, somebody
Speaker 1: has to step up at receiver. And you know, does
Speaker 1: it have to be somebody who emerges as the starter
Speaker 1: or can it just be like three guys emerge fifty
Speaker 1: percent more than they were? You know, like, is it
Speaker 1: that sort of thing? Would you rather have two guys
Speaker 1: or one guy and three other guys that you know
Speaker 1: they they you can't ignore them, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And if Devin McEwan can just become a guy, that
Speaker 1: would be huge. And yeah, you can say the same
Speaker 1: thing about any of the receivers being that that person,
Speaker 1: you know. And I look at the list and I
Speaker 1: really feel like it's it's kind of just is it
Speaker 1: lazy time on my part to say, Chris Henry Jr.
Speaker 1: Who go ahead tell me I'm lazy. No, I know,
Speaker 1: you text me all the time the how lazy I am.
Speaker 3: So well, it's it's it's not lazy because then it
Speaker 3: allows you to put Churse Henry Jr. His name in
Speaker 3: the title, and therefore that, and people love Chris Henry
Speaker 3: Junior content, so therefore I think it's less lazy and
Speaker 3: more strategic strategy.
Speaker 1: There you go, but really there's an opportunity for a
Speaker 1: freshman to step up and emerge, and not just him
Speaker 1: brock boys Well, you could throw it to your Quaid and
Speaker 1: Guildford in there as well, and if you want to
Speaker 1: also get everybody in there, say Jaden Rickets. There's opportunities
Speaker 1: for the young guys Philip Bell does Z Jones like,
Speaker 1: this is not such an established group of receivers that
Speaker 1: somebody young can't come up and say, well, I guess
Speaker 1: if nobody wants the job, I'll take it. And we
Speaker 1: know Chris Henry Junior has that physical ability kind of
Speaker 1: plays the same position as Jeremiah Smith though, So then
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the real answer there is brock Boyd competing
Speaker 1: against Devin McEwan for that Z spot, also Kyle Parker
Speaker 1: in as well, mixing back between the slot and the Z.
Speaker 1: So who has the most to gain whoever wins that
Speaker 1: Z spot? I would say, and you can go ahead
Speaker 1: and throw in any of three names in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you could throw You know, you haven't,
Speaker 3: said Brandon Innis's name on this show, Boy Brandon Innis
Speaker 3: has a lot to gain if he can really show
Speaker 3: that he can take that next step after a solid
Speaker 3: season last year, but a season that even he talked
Speaker 3: about wasn't good enough. So can he take that next step?
Speaker 3: But yeah, you want to talk about Kyle Parker. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: He's someone who played for Cortez Hankton at LSU last year.
Speaker 3: Cortez Hankton is a big Kyle Parker fan. That's why
Speaker 3: you bring him with you. If you don't like him,
Speaker 3: you can say, all right, we need to worry about
Speaker 3: you anymore. And he brought him with him, So that
Speaker 3: tells you a lot about what Cortez Hankton thinks that
Speaker 3: Kyle Parker could be. But again, to go from three
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty I think yards is what he had
Speaker 3: last year to can you be a six hundred yard
Speaker 3: receiver this year?
Speaker 2: Even a five hundred yard receiver? You your question.
Speaker 3: Earlier, would they rather have one guy who just lights
Speaker 3: it up? Or would you rather have three or four
Speaker 3: guys who are like pretty good?
Speaker 2: I think either one of those would be okay.
Speaker 3: If you get someone who turns into a just goes
Speaker 3: just no clear, just go super nova.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you would, you would prefer that.
Speaker 3: And if that's you know, Chris Henry Junior, Robrot Boyd
Speaker 3: or whoever I mean, Kyle Parker, Brendan in this, whoever
Speaker 3: it is, they would I think they would take that
Speaker 3: with a smile on their face.
Speaker 2: But I think more.
Speaker 3: Likely is if you can just get three or four
Speaker 3: guys who just are better than last year. You get
Speaker 3: three or four guys who are five hundred, six hundred,
Speaker 3: seven hundred yard receivers, and you have Jeremiah Smith on
Speaker 3: the other side of the field. That's enough to kind
Speaker 3: of keep you, you know, to get you where you
Speaker 3: need to be. Uh my, next one, let's see I
Speaker 3: had I had a lot of wide receivers listed here.
Speaker 3: How about let's let's hit the running back room real
Speaker 3: quick and let's just let's say Isaiah West because Bo Jackson,
Speaker 3: I think Bo Jackson has set a baseline of yeah,
Speaker 3: this is he's a thousand yard rusher as a true freshman,
Speaker 3: he's going to be better as a sophomore. You're going
Speaker 3: to take a step forward just because you're bigger, You're
Speaker 3: you're healthier, you're more prepared, more physically prepared to play
Speaker 3: a full college season. It feels like, you know, if
Speaker 3: he's a twelve hundred yard back or a fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: yard back. Yeah, either one of those certainly possible. But
Speaker 3: he should be as good as he was last year
Speaker 3: or better. Isaiah West is someone who has missmissed so
Speaker 3: much time between last spring, last fall camp, this spring,
Speaker 3: portions of the.
Speaker 2: Season, like he just was not.
Speaker 3: It feels like he hasn't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 3: But when he's been healthy, you've seen the flashes from him. So, Okay,
Speaker 3: he missed this spring. Now that he's back, now that
Speaker 3: he's healthy, what does it look like in fall camp?
Speaker 3: And can he earn himself you know, the really solid
Speaker 3: RB two kind of position or you know, maybe it's
Speaker 3: one one in one A or whatever. Can he really
Speaker 3: earn himself a regular spot in that rotation for Carlos Lachlan,
Speaker 3: Because if he can, I think he's someone who could
Speaker 3: really be a breakout a star for Ohio State this year.
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: And I think there are other names in that running
Speaker 1: back room as well, And I'll mention legend Bay just
Speaker 1: so if I want to put in the title, I
Speaker 1: can as well. But the name that I'm really thinking
Speaker 1: about is in terms of most to gain, Turbo Rogers
Speaker 1: kind of like the Josh Padilla, where everybody just understands,
Speaker 1: like right now, probably not a starter, probably won't play
Speaker 1: in most games unless there's in terms of offense, unless
Speaker 1: there's a blowout or an injury or something like that.
Speaker 1: There's a long way to go to get Turbo Rogers
Speaker 1: on the field. But he has dealt with injuries, he's
Speaker 1: he's got some of the same skill set as Legend Bay.
Speaker 1: And so when everybody talks about Legend Bay, this Legend Bay,
Speaker 1: that you've got another guy who is the second fastest
Speaker 1: running back on the team and Turbo Rodgers, who had
Speaker 1: some moments in fall camp last year that were very
Speaker 1: good because he just gets lost. The defensive line loses
Speaker 1: him basically, and then he just pops out and he
Speaker 1: squirts out and he's gone. And I just wonder if
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for him in fall camp to
Speaker 1: remind people that I'm still here. How was with the
Speaker 1: number five running back in the twenty twenty five class,
Speaker 1: I still have ability, I'm not going anywhere, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna play this year. Now, how do you
Speaker 1: play four or five running backs? You can't. So that's
Speaker 1: why I like there is a lot to gain in
Speaker 1: fall camp. And another thing is like, well, the investment
Speaker 1: has already been made in so many other people. Is
Speaker 1: their room for him here in terms of playing time?
Speaker 1: And that's why fall camp is so important. You just
Speaker 1: force the hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is not someone who you have to
Speaker 3: earn your playing time. But this is not someone who
Speaker 3: has to do something spectacular this fall to get Carlos
Speaker 3: Lachlan to believe in Carlos Laughlin was recruiting Turbo Rogers
Speaker 3: when he was still the running backs coach at Oregon.
Speaker 2: So this is someone who has been a big, big
Speaker 2: believer in in.
Speaker 3: Turbo Rogers since Turbo Rodgers was just barely kind of showing.
Speaker 2: Up on the scene.
Speaker 3: And he's kind of been a little bit of a
Speaker 3: forgotten per in that running back room because again, he's
Speaker 3: just been banged up so much. And you have other
Speaker 3: guys who are guys who were in his class who
Speaker 3: put up a thousand yard season or guys who were
Speaker 3: in his class who plaited more than he did. And
Speaker 3: then you have Legend Bay who's like everyone's going, ooh,
Speaker 3: new shiny. And you bring in Jakobe Jackson, who's kind
Speaker 3: of done it at times at Florida and who comes
Speaker 3: in as a veteran, and it's very easy. And you
Speaker 3: have you only have so many carries, so it's very
Speaker 3: easy to go thro Well, I've said four running backs names.
Speaker 2: You only need a pair in a spare.
Speaker 3: Traditionally that's a pair in two spares. You certainly can't
Speaker 3: go any deeper than that. You certainly can, or this
Speaker 3: is an opportunity for him to potentially to climb that
Speaker 3: ladder this fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a pair in two spares does not rhyme, but
Speaker 1: you know it does. Two pairs and two spares, and
Speaker 1: that's about exactly what they have in to him right now.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be able to use
Speaker 1: them all, but there you go. Some names that have
Speaker 1: a lot to have room to basically make an impact,
Speaker 1: a lot of the most to gain. As we said,
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