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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBS Costin's new.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio Welcome back, everybody. There was a very ugly incident

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<v Speaker 2>that took place in Newton on Washington Street yesterday evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the well, I think probably I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 2>all the Boston television news stations, but I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that most of the Boston television news stations are covered this.

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<v Speaker 2>It occurred last night, and apparently there was a relatively

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<v Speaker 2>small group of pro Israel demonstrators who were doing what

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<v Speaker 2>I would call a standout, meaning there they're standing on

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<v Speaker 2>a on a sidewalk with an Israeli flag. Maybe there

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<v Speaker 2>was some signs. I'm not sure, but I have the

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<v Speaker 2>the Globe article here, and so just just so that

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<v Speaker 2>you realize that I'm I don't make things up. This

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<v Speaker 2>was issue today late this afternoon piece by Dan McDonald

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<v Speaker 2>hit some others Nick Stoika and is He Buyer's Globe

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<v Speaker 2>staff and Globe correspondent. And so I'm relying upon the

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<v Speaker 2>TV news stations, but I'd like to hear from some

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<v Speaker 2>of you as to what you think about this, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty weird story. So these folks are

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<v Speaker 2>doing a standout, they have every right to be on

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<v Speaker 2>a public street, sidewalk, public sidewalk, waving at cars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We see it all the time if you drive the Cape,

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<v Speaker 2>you see people on standouts on bridges. It's what democracy

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<v Speaker 2>is all about. It's the First Amendment. All of us

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<v Speaker 2>have a right to free speech. We have the right

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<v Speaker 2>to peacefully assemble. So these folks are concerned about the

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<v Speaker 2>fate of the hostages, they're concerned about the state of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly amongst them, there may be people who are concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about the deaths of innocent people in Gaza, but there

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<v Speaker 2>with Israeli flags and all of a sudden, According to

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<v Speaker 2>the TV reports that I saw an individual looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a younger guy. Most of the folks who seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the standout were, you know, middle aged or older. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so this younger guy apparently engaged in some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>shouting match across Washing Street. Now, Washington Street is a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty busy street if you're familiar with Newton, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>main street. So at some point I looked at video

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<v Speaker 2>on TV of this guy running across the street. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks as he comes across the street. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea how big he was. Because there was nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>compare him. But he looks like he has the intensity

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<v Speaker 2>of an NFL fullback, if you've seen the video, comes

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<v Speaker 2>running across the street and apparently jumps one of the individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not a witness, but it appears to

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<v Speaker 2>me that he ends up on the ground in a

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling match with this individual. Now I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>words were exchange. I wasn't there, And as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, I saw the video at noontime. They had

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<v Speaker 2>taken the audio out, which maybe there were too many

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<v Speaker 2>bad words and they damn a chance to bleep it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this guy comes running across the street. He obviously

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<v Speaker 2>is not happy. He's not coming across the street to

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<v Speaker 2>join the demonstration, the pro Israel demonstration. And next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>he is in a brawl. There were again that looked

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<v Speaker 2>like they might have been five or six people. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell you how many in total there were. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some of you were there and you could help me out.

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<v Speaker 2>But he initiates the brawl for a couple of reasons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he did it, but he's on

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<v Speaker 2>one side of the street. He goes across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>No one come from the Israeli group or from the

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<v Speaker 2>the pro Israeli group. The group with the Israeli flags

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<v Speaker 2>goes and approaches him. He comes racing across the street

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<v Speaker 2>again looking like an NFL running back head down, plows

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<v Speaker 2>into one or two of the people, ends up on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, and there's a brawl, and apparently there is

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<v Speaker 2>a gun that discharges, and he's wounded, and apparently is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty seriously wounded. I do not know that what his

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<v Speaker 2>medical condition is, but at least as of tonight, he

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<v Speaker 2>was still alive, although it was its serious condition. According

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<v Speaker 2>to The Globe, a small group. This was a six

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<v Speaker 2>point forty last night. A small group of pro Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrators run one side of the street when an individual

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<v Speaker 2>apparently completely randomly walking down the other side of the street,

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<v Speaker 2>shouted at across the street at the demonstrators. This is

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<v Speaker 2>according to Middlesex District Attorney Mary and Ryan told reporters

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night. Words were exchanged back and forth across the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>She said at a briefing at Newton Police headquarters. At

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<v Speaker 2>some point the man not involved in the protest cross

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<v Speaker 2>the street. Well, he did more than across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran across the street and he jumped on one

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<v Speaker 2>of the demonstrators. According to the district attorney, a scuffle ensued,

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<v Speaker 2>during which the person was shot by a member of

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<v Speaker 2>the demonstrators group. A video or part of the incident

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<v Speaker 2>posted on social media showed a man shouting across the

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<v Speaker 2>street at a small group of pro Israel demonstrators, some

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<v Speaker 2>of whom had Israeli flags. He accused the demonstrators of

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<v Speaker 2>defending genocide. You're sick, he told them. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrators reported that he was stupid, and this is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much what the TV stations reported today as well. Then

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<v Speaker 2>all help broke loose. The man ran across the street

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<v Speaker 2>tackled one of the demonstrators. Both men went to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>The other demonstrators stomped on the face and neck of

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<v Speaker 2>the man who had rushed across the street. In the video,

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<v Speaker 2>an on looker could be heard instructing someone else call

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<v Speaker 2>the police, while the woman screamed as men wrestled on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. It was chaos. Someone on the video can

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<v Speaker 2>be heard saying, grab my pistol. The video does not

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<v Speaker 2>show the actual shooting. Authority said the man who was

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<v Speaker 2>shot suffered life threatening injuries and was being treated at

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<v Speaker 2>a local hospital. He has not been identified so amen.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the demonstrators was arrested and he was in

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<v Speaker 2>court today. His name is his last name is Hayes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me make sure that I have His name is

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Hayes. He's not from Newton. He is from framing him.

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<v Speaker 2>He faces charges of assault and battery with a dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>weapon and violation of a constitutional right causing injury. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that charges to me a little question. Well, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what constitutional right the man who came running

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<v Speaker 2>across the street to attack had. I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>is a bad charge and not guilty. Plea was entered

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<v Speaker 2>in his behalf bail set at five thousand dollars, and

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<v Speaker 2>Hayes was ordered to stay away from the alleged victim

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<v Speaker 2>and the city of Newton, and to abide by a

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<v Speaker 2>curfew from seven pm at night obviously to six a m.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the morning. Newton Police responded at six forty Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>to this report of a disturbance at Washington and Harvard Streets,

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<v Speaker 2>not far from the Newtonville Commuter rail stop. So this individual,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Hayes, he's forty seven years old. As I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the video of him leaving the court tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the video that was shown on the

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<v Speaker 2>scuffle and on the ground, it would appear to me

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<v Speaker 2>that Hayes is the person that the demonstrator came across

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<v Speaker 2>the street to attack. Now, I'm sad that anyone gets shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sad that anyone got shot, but it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me that the person who precipitated this, ironically is the victim.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is the gun shot victim. Now, all of

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<v Speaker 2>this unfolds against the backdrop of what is going on

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<v Speaker 2>in Israel, and what is going on in Gossip, and

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on in the West Bank, and what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on in the Philadelphia Corridor, and what is

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<v Speaker 2>going on throughout the Middle East. But the question is

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<v Speaker 2>why is that that we as Americans can't have our

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<v Speaker 2>rights to demonstrate peacefully as the Israeli, as the pro

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<v Speaker 2>Israel demonstrators were demonstrating peacefully without some lunkhead running across

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<v Speaker 2>the street and attacking them. Now, again, not happy that

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<v Speaker 2>the man was shot, but he put himself in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume had no idea that someone in the group

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<v Speaker 2>had a gun. But he suffered a horrific consequence. And

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<v Speaker 2>my suspicion is that he's going to be charged. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who came across the street. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>one who jumped mister what appeared to me to be

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<v Speaker 2>mister Hayes. He should be charged, and I suspect he

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<v Speaker 2>will be charged with assault, battery at a minimum, at

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum, as well as violating the First Amendment rights

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<v Speaker 2>of the pro Israel demonstrators. So I hope many of

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<v Speaker 2>you have seen the story, have heard of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always a dangerous practice for a talk show

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<v Speaker 2>host to talk about the story that is new. It

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<v Speaker 2>was shocking when I watched it at noon, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was equally shocking when I watched it tonight at six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd like to talk about it. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>lesson to be learned here? I think it's pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 2>what the lesson to be learned here, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>live and let live or live and let others demonstrate

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<v Speaker 2>as long as they're demonstrating peacefully. Six seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>on the air. Give us a call. Whatever your point

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<v Speaker 2>of view on this is there's a lot of facts

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<v Speaker 2>that haven't come out. Apparently tonight, Channel five, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>was reporting that the gun was legally registered as not

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<v Speaker 2>as if this guy was carrying a gun that he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a right to carry. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to diminish that's obviously the facts of the

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<v Speaker 2>case are going to be really important. The defense lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>are going to have to sort this out. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a story that's that we're going to follow for some time,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. But it just seems to me that if

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<v Speaker 2>the guy had stayed on the other side of the street,

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<v Speaker 2>he would not in the hospital tonight, the man who

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly shot him would not be facing some serious charges.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of my listeners tonight called and said, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you'll be covering this story, this incident. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, the phone responsor is not overwhelming, to

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<v Speaker 2>be really honest with you, So I'm going to assume

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<v Speaker 2>most people haven't heard of the story, so I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to phrase the story as best I can to see

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<v Speaker 2>what you think. I think all of you have heard

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<v Speaker 2>me read the facts of the story. That a man

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<v Speaker 2>is in very serious condition tonight at a local hospital

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<v Speaker 2>suffering from life threatening injuries. He was in Newton last

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<v Speaker 2>night across Washington Street, which is a thoroughfare. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a small road, okay, and he was exchanging insults with

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<v Speaker 2>someone on the other side. There were a group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>small group of people with a couple of is Israeli flags,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were demonstrating on behalf of Israel and on

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<v Speaker 2>behalf of the hostages. So this gentleman, we do not

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<v Speaker 2>have his name or what his affiliation is with any organization.

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<v Speaker 2>If so, we don't even know. He could have just

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<v Speaker 2>been an individual walking down the street, but he made

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<v Speaker 2>the decision to run across the street, charge at the

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrators and tackle one of the demonstrators. And apparently the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that he tackled allegedly had a legitimate firearm, a

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<v Speaker 2>right to carry. Scott Hayes forty seven years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>this individual was shot and as they say, unknown his name.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been Oh he suffered some pretty serious injury.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me if I can play some sound for you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the district attorney, Middlesex County District Attorney maryon Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>She's identifying the shooter, not the victim, or not the

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<v Speaker 2>man who was shot. The shooter Cut fifty nine ROB.

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<v Speaker 3>That individual whose name is Scott Hayes, aged forty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>from framing him is under arrest. He right now is

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<v Speaker 3>and violation of a constitutional right causing injury. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 3>our understanding that that was his gun and that he

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why is he charged with violating someone's constitutional right.

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<v Speaker 2>If that person came over and attacked him, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be my first question. The district attorney does acknowledge in

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<v Speaker 2>cut number sixty ROB, Cut number sixty that the other

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<v Speaker 2>individual initiated the assault, initiated the physical contact Cut sixty ROB.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, that individual came very rapidly across the street and

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<v Speaker 4>There was a scuffle that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going on on the street, and at some point

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<v Speaker 3>mister Hayes used a gun and fired a shot. That

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly Madam district attorney allegedly used a gun. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be let's be fair and impartial. The Mayor of Newton,

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<v Speaker 2>ruth An Fuller, I think very appropriately, expressed some gratitude

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<v Speaker 2>that the situation wasn't worse. Cut sixty one please, Rob.

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<v Speaker 5>I am very grateful to a Chief George McMains and

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<v Speaker 2>In an earlier bite which I have here, I want

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<v Speaker 2>indicated who initiated the assault. So again, oftentimes charges can

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<v Speaker 2>be dropped, they can be minimized, they can be increased.

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<v Speaker 2>But as of this moment, Scott Hayes is facing charge

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<v Speaker 2>of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and a

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<v Speaker 2>who he allegedly shot. This is cut number fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob again, d a Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>Words were exchanged back and forth. That individual, who was

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<v Speaker 3>the demonstrators. A scuffle ensued. During that scuffle, the individual

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<v Speaker 3>who had come across the street was shot. The individual

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<v Speaker 3>who came across the street has sustained life threatening injuries

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again, I saw the video of this guy

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<v Speaker 2>running back for the Patriots. He was intent on coming

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<v Speaker 2>over there. He wasn't coming over to chat with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>He was coming over to, in my opinion, confront and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently he just came over and jumped. Wbz's Penny commit Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is her reported new time cut fifty six.

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<v Speaker 6>Rob It all started yesterday on Washington Street, the Middle

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<v Speaker 6>Sexdya says a small group of pro Israel protesters were

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<v Speaker 6>holding a peaceful demonstration. Then a seemingly random man confronted

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<v Speaker 4>They were saying that you've killed two hundred thousand people,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, you know, repeating lies. And honestly, the story

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<v Speaker 4>here should be blaming the perpetrator of those lies.

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<v Speaker 6>Police say the man then tackled one of the protesters.

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<v Speaker 6>A scuffle ensued before police say the man who charged

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<v Speaker 6>at the group was shot and seriously hurt. Investigators believe

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<v Speaker 6>forty seven year old Scott Hayes of Framingham pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was report of Penny commits report this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>which has stood the test of time. She's right on

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<v Speaker 2>the money, very accurate. And then we have one final report,

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<v Speaker 6>Hay's had dozens of supporters inside the courtroom today, including

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<v Speaker 6>yesterday's incident was ignited by anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 4>The notion that I have to be afraid stand on

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<v Speaker 4>to somebody with an Israeli flag, is you know, terrifying.

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<v Speaker 6>The DA said that it's too soon to know if

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<v Speaker 6>the person that charged at that protest was acting because

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<v Speaker 6>they were anti Israel, but regardless, the Newton Police says

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<v Speaker 6>that today there will be extra officers at all places

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<v Speaker 2>And Jenny five was reporting tonight that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>stepped up security at Jewish houses of worship, temples and

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<v Speaker 2>synagogues on this obviously Sabbath, the evening before the Sabbath

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night, which is a holy night of too many

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Jewish community. So we're gonna do We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take a quick break. I'm going to invite you

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<v Speaker 2>to call. The only lines that are left open are

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<v Speaker 2>the six, one, seven, nine three line. Again, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>this today. I'm not happy that someone got shot at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not taking any joy or solace in the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that someone got shot. But I can tell you if

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<v Speaker 2>this victim had stayed on the other side of the street,

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<v Speaker 2>continued to engage in his conversation or his insults back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, he wouldn't have been shot. If it was

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<v Speaker 2>he that chose to run aro and not stroll across,

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<v Speaker 2>not walk across, but run across the street looking like

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<v Speaker 2>a full back for the Patriots, and jumped an individual

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<v Speaker 2>who I guess apparently had a legal permit for a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he has a potential self defense claim.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the circumstances that gun might have gone

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<v Speaker 2>off accidentally. I don't know if he took the gun

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<v Speaker 2>and pulled the trigger or there was a scuffle on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. So we'll leave that to court. But the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line is, why do you have why do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go after somebody physically and try to interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>their demonstration just because you disagree with them? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>where we are in this country? I hope to God

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<v Speaker 2>not Back on nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, some late word on this story. Scott Susa,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a reporter for The Patch, which is the local

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper that works in many communities, said does great work.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Middlesex DA maryon Ye Mary and Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>said Friday afternoon that the men who charged pro Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrators will be charged with assault and battery. Well, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a thirty one year old Newton man who was

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<v Speaker 2>shot when he charged and tackled a framing him man

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<v Speaker 2>and a protest demonstration on Washington Street. Is now expected

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<v Speaker 2>to survive his gunshot wound. He will also be charged

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<v Speaker 2>with assault and battery. Middlesex County District Attorney Mary Maryon.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan said Friday afternoon that quote. As a result of

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<v Speaker 2>the continuing investigation into this matter, Newton Police of Friday

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<v Speaker 2>applied for a criminal complaint against the man, who was

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<v Speaker 2>not identified by name. Let's get his name out there, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan said, Massachusetts state law requires a summons be issued.

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<v Speaker 2>An assault and battery that does not occur in the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of a police officer is not arrestable. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>an arrestable offense. Well, assault batteries of the dangerous weapon

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is, Ryan said, masters requires that a summons

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<v Speaker 2>be issued the person charges that entitled to a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>people with the clerk magistrate to determine whether probable cause exists.

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<v Speaker 2>The Newton man's injuries described as light threatening on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>but Ryan said on Friday he has now expected to

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<v Speaker 2>survive his injuries. So he is a Newton man thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one years old, but not identified as yet by the authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>So the plot dickens. Let's go to the phone, so

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<v Speaker 2>we go to Chris up In Jempson. Chris, appreciate your patience,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for holding on your thoughts on what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, I just can't believe what's going on.

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<v Speaker 8>What Randy King said anything in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 7>Why can we get along the goal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, a great, a great philosopher, Rodney King.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's true, it's true. Why did this guy

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<v Speaker 2>at and attack an individual who was with it was

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<v Speaker 2>a small group of people. He was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>over there and just start a fight. He got the worst.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>Now you mentioned assault and barry.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't. The prison didn't do the battery, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but assault and battery, let me explain to you

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<v Speaker 2>what it means. Is assault is when you put someone

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<v Speaker 2>to you in the street and I say, Chris, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna knock your head off. I really don't like it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I never touch you physically and scare you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's called assault. Okay. Assault and battery is involved when

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<v Speaker 2>I come up to you and I and I and

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<v Speaker 2>I threaten you and then I touch you. A battery

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<v Speaker 2>in the law is what's called an unwonted touching. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's assume that you're walking down the street and I

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<v Speaker 2>bump into we bump into each other. Okay, I bump

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<v Speaker 2>into you, You bump into me. What happens? I say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh gee, I'm sorry. You said to me, Oh, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>my fault. And we walk in a different directions. But

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation, this guy runs across the street. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>at that point the demonstrators are thinking this, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is going to jump us. He does jump them. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's assaulted battery.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so listen does not mean used in a battery.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's got nothing to do with a battery,

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<v Speaker 2>either either a battery ram or a battery that you

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<v Speaker 2>put in your your flashlight. No, no, it's exactly. A

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<v Speaker 2>battery is called a battery in the law. Is what's

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<v Speaker 2>called an unwanted touching and assault and battery when you

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<v Speaker 2>put someone in apprehension in fear of being touched, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in an unwonted way, and then they follow through.

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<v Speaker 2>And most of the time it is when someone you know,

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<v Speaker 2>punches somebody or jumps on him. Now, the other individual,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Hayes, he's being sure charged with assault and battery

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<v Speaker 2>with a dangerous weapon to wit a gun. There were

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<v Speaker 2>some people there who also looked like they were kicking

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<v Speaker 2>this guy in the head. They could be charged pretty

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<v Speaker 2>easily with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon to win.

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<v Speaker 2>A shod foot a lot of assault and case.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is their foot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's called the shod foot meaning a foot a

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<v Speaker 2>shoe on it? If you kick someone, Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 2>if you kick someone with your foot and it's your

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<v Speaker 2>bare foot, Uh, it's a it has to be a

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<v Speaker 2>shod foot, meaning it has to have a shoe on it,

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<v Speaker 2>because that obviously you're going to get a lot going

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<v Speaker 2>to get hurt a lot more if someone's wearing a foot,

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<v Speaker 2>a shoe or a boot than you are if they

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<v Speaker 2>just kick with kick in the head with their foot.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, christ this was a good little law school

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<v Speaker 9>I just went to the news, Thank you, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Learned something new every night, Chris. That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I know something, Sometimes I learned Something's as simple

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<v Speaker 2>as that. I really appreciate your calls and your friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. Talk to you soon. Have a great All right,

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<v Speaker 8>Hi? Thank you for taking my call. I'm thinking that

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<v Speaker 8>your news report might be prerecorded.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you absolutely right. Because as I I understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>the state Police. Are you referring to the state police recruit?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that awful news?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, apparently he passed away.

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<v Speaker 8>But uh, yes, I just wanted to I didn't know

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<v Speaker 8>if you heard that on the newscas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you caught it as well. Some of our

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<v Speaker 2>you're a keen listener of Nightside and I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you loyalty. What do you think about this story from yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's your thought on this?

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<v Speaker 8>They're awful, many awful things, but this the sad thing

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<v Speaker 8>especially is that there's a Malejuana store right at that corner,

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<v Speaker 8>and there's always been for almost for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 8>Whatever I drive by that I work in that area,

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<v Speaker 8>there's always a police officer there. But I guess they

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<v Speaker 8>may have stopped that. There used to always be a

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<v Speaker 8>police officer right outside the Mayl Juanna store that's right

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<v Speaker 8>where that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the whether or not a h and

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<v Speaker 2>I they I don't know why they were demonstrating there

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to a block closer to the courthouse or

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<v Speaker 2>another block Washington street's along street, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it had anything to do with the marijuana store. And

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<v Speaker 2>I do think you're right that I remember when marijuana

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<v Speaker 2>stores first opened a couple of years ago. I mean people,

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<v Speaker 2>there were lines of people outside these stores, and the

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<v Speaker 2>police were there to keep order me primarily to keep people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not jumping the line. And now maybe as

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<v Speaker 2>the novelty of legalized marijuana at different times during the

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<v Speaker 2>day has.

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<v Speaker 8>Worn off, maybe that makes sense. Yeah, I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, if the police officers there, he might have

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<v Speaker 2>interrupted it. The question is the guy ran across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if he hadn't run across the street, and would.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah with you with your point. To emphasize your point,

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<v Speaker 8>Neilby twenty nine Craft Street is the congressman office? Is

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<v Speaker 8>Jake Auchencross's office. Yeah, and they have they have people

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<v Speaker 8>protesting every day. Is real and it's ready to across

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<v Speaker 8>some whole foods and they're there every day and not

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<v Speaker 8>people wave and some like. It's very peaceful. And I

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<v Speaker 8>do the killing read sometimes I go out for the

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<v Speaker 8>stand up protests, yep. And you sometimes give us the

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<v Speaker 8>finger and tell us to biologically we produce ourselves, but very.

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<v Speaker 2>Well said, I refer to they tell you you're number one.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, but but it's usually me smile and it's kind

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<v Speaker 8>of a we never thought it was going to be

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<v Speaker 8>in fear, but yeah, that's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you never know, and you never know who this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age, what nut job might have a gun

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<v Speaker 2>and fire And this guy comes running across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the video on TV. It's it's if

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<v Speaker 2>you were there, you'd be scared. You'd be trying to

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<v Speaker 2>brace yourself because this guy is doing pretty fast. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he's playing football, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean I look in that area, so it's

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<v Speaker 8>I know there. And I wanted to thank you for

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<v Speaker 8>letting me plug my eventor it's happening Saturday, So thank

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<v Speaker 8>you for you and Lightning for letting me be on before.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice time justin you know, the best of luck tomorrow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks very much. Thanks, talk to you soon. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go to Craig in Ohio. Craig in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>This probably this story probably hasn't hit Ohio yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's really interesting that it's an interesting story. Back here, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you?

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<v Speaker 7>And uh, it hasn't hit Ohio yet. But you'r they've

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<v Speaker 7>done some great reporting up there. It sounds like getting Boston.

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<v Speaker 7>But uh yeah, I think this is just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 7>Damn you know what you get to states where they

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<v Speaker 7>have a lot of concealed carries in the stand your

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<v Speaker 7>ground law. Unfortunately, I you know, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 7>gonna end up getting worse. You know, you know, people

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<v Speaker 7>are going to start fighting back in one form or another.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this group yesterday, I mean, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a choice. This guy was the one who initiated the

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<v Speaker 2>the confrontation, and then he initiated the assault in the fight. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the evidence will show, whether this

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<v Speaker 2>individual intentionally shot him or or the gun went off accidentally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Let the facts comes seventy And if the guy came

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<v Speaker 7>across the street and knocked me on the ground and

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<v Speaker 7>was swinging, I would pull the trigger also, No.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say, but again, I just want to make

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<v Speaker 2>it I just want to make it clear that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know for sure, and you have forensics here, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the police will be able to do. They

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<v Speaker 2>were called, they may have talked to eye witnesses. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, for Allallly, no police could have been driving by.

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<v Speaker 2>So this guy's facing a very serious charge assault and

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<v Speaker 2>battery with a dangerous weapon. And he was held on

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<v Speaker 2>what we call fifty thousand dollars bail, but it's five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars cash bail, so it sounds worse than it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that they said that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>gold fundbee stage. You know what, this story reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of a little bit. It reminds me a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the story in New York. Remember with the guy

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<v Speaker 2>the young guy was threatening people on and a marine

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<v Speaker 2>got up and put him in a headlock, and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy and the marine. Now I was facing homicide chargers,

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<v Speaker 2>and that case hasn't been tried yet, so this might

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<v Speaker 2>be one of those similar cases. Was what were people

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<v Speaker 2>to do? I mean this, this guy must have been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty He must have thought he was pretty tough. Because

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<v Speaker 2>it was one guy taken on. It looked like five

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<v Speaker 2>or six people. I don't know how many of them

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<v Speaker 2>were men, how many of them were women. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what age they all were, But I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 2>police have all of those all that information and that

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<v Speaker 2>will work into their decision as to who.

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<v Speaker 7>Will be charged if he wasn't come across the street

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<v Speaker 7>to give him a high five.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's pretty clear in that No, they had exchanged

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<v Speaker 2>They had exchanged some words, let's put it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were not pleasant words, I'm sure, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were plenty of witnesses to that. Hey, Craig, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard from you in a while. Man. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I always worry about you folks who you know who

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<v Speaker 2>are regular listeners and regular callers, And when I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hear them, always sometimes I think, see what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with Craig. Everything okay out there?

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<v Speaker 7>Everything you're good, been doing a lot of camping and cushy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, you enjoy and we'll look forward to hearing

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<v Speaker 2>from you more often.

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<v Speaker 7>And I always enjoyed listen to.

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<v Speaker 8>BZ and night Side.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Greg, night side, I mean, okay, not.

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<v Speaker 2>The America's back porch. Thanks Greg. Talk to you soon, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye. I take a very quick break. I got

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<v Speaker 2>Bob in California coming up. Mike and Newton, Brian and Dutchbury.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a little bit of room for you if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to try to get in. I do intend

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<v Speaker 2>to change topics at nine o'clock. But my audience plays

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<v Speaker 2>a big role, and we if we change, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back we go, gonna go to Bob in California. Hey, Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to Nightside. Always great to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your thought on this, Bob from three thousand miles away?

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<v Speaker 10>Likewise standard good eating. Well, just to remind you and

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<v Speaker 10>the listeners, I'm originally from Boston. I know Newton very well.

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<v Speaker 10>I have three comments. First of all, these anti Israel protesters,

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<v Speaker 10>let's call them what they are starting now. They are

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<v Speaker 10>pro protesters.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what they are.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, they're pro.

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<v Speaker 8>We lost you you mean pro Hamas protesters?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? But again, just you you've dropped out of me

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<v Speaker 2>twice there, Bob. Let mean when you say pro what

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<v Speaker 2>what is what is the word after pro pro terrorists?

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<v Speaker 10>They are pro terrorists?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, gotcha? Okay, fine, Well that's even worse than

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<v Speaker 2>pro homase. Well I guess maybe maybe it's a synonymous. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well.

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<v Speaker 8>This guy, but that's what the protesters here were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the protesters who were attacked were supporting Israel and

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<v Speaker 2>supporting the.

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<v Speaker 10>Real my s my second. Okay, but I want to

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<v Speaker 10>establish that everybody listening stop calling them pro palace things.

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<v Speaker 10>They are pro terrorists, protest right, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What they are.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay. Yeah. Number two, Scott, thank you. And Scott Hayes

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<v Speaker 10>was his alleged actions absolutely self defense. Okay, he was

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<v Speaker 10>in fair for his life, self defense, right period. That's

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<v Speaker 10>that's it, right. And the third comment I want to

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<v Speaker 10>make call here. You have to understand that Newton DA

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<v Speaker 10>who spoke the one who charged Gott and you got

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<v Speaker 10>to realize I've heard Dan. She's in a training program

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<v Speaker 10>to be a DA out here in California where they

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<v Speaker 10>support the agitators and the troublemakers all the time. That's

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<v Speaker 10>what the das do here. So she's in a special

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<v Speaker 10>training program to come out here and be a DA

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<v Speaker 10>in California. We're still do a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think that I think you might be uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're you're speaking a little sarcastically there, but I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the points you're making. Those are three great points, Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, Thank you much, thank you, good night,

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<v Speaker 2>next too, We're gonna go. Let's go home, back to Newton. Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a Newton Mike your reaction to what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>your city last night?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, Hi, Dan, it's unfortunately. I really think that that

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<v Speaker 11>guy is in deep do do this is in Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 11>Is not a and your ground law. You have the

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<v Speaker 11>duty to retreat. He had all these people around him.

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<v Speaker 11>Did the guy show a weapon when he came at him,

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<v Speaker 11>a knife or anything?

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 11>He had the duty to retreat. You have to be

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<v Speaker 11>in a corner, a hallway or something you cannot get

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<v Speaker 11>out of there, and then you can shoot somebody. I

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<v Speaker 11>have a feeling that it's going to come down to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you might be right, but I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances and the facts of the case, or really

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<v Speaker 2>what matter. This guy standing on a street corner with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a few other people supporting Israel, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess probably the signage that they might have, if they

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<v Speaker 2>had signs, was in sympathy with the hostages. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen the video of this guy coming across the street?

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<v Speaker 11>I did, and I agree with you. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 11>You know you probably do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looked as if the guy that he jumped

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy who was arraigned today, So it looks

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<v Speaker 2>as if it wasn't like he uh somebody standing by

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<v Speaker 2>who interceded and shot again, assuming that he shot intentionally,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he had the ability to retreat

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<v Speaker 2>because once he gets jumped there on the ground.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh, that's something that that it's gonna have to play out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I understand that's what that's what you say. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the point you're making that we are not a

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<v Speaker 2>standard ground the state. I understand that. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>difference then if somebody walked across the street and was

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<v Speaker 2>having an argument with him, uh and uh, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no assault in battery or no jumping on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he pulled the gun out and shot the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>In with your thousand percent, but once this guy comes

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<v Speaker 2>on top of him and has him down on a street,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what that person might be able to do. Drive,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, drive an elbow into his head while his

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<v Speaker 2>head is un cemented.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I agree. I totally agree with you, but we'll

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<v Speaker 11>just have to see how it plays.

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<v Speaker 2>I put my defense your hat on there for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a great call. Thanks thanks Mike, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you. Talk to you soon. Going next Brian

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<v Speaker 2>in Duxbury. Brian's gonna get you one more in here.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 9>All right, yeah, let me preface my remarks. First of all,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I believe in the second manment write of

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<v Speaker 9>the Constitution is the right to play arounds to protect

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<v Speaker 9>against tyranny. And uh, I wonder why I am a

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<v Speaker 9>situation like this, Uh, this guy would do your gun

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<v Speaker 9>to something like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess, I guess the guy has a right

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<v Speaker 2>to carry, right, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, but a certain but yeah, he has the right

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<v Speaker 9>to carry. But when all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>The right to carry is the right to carry.

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<v Speaker 8>You could you could take.

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<v Speaker 2>The gun wow with you to the to the store.

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<v Speaker 2>You could take the gun with you. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take it on the plane. You can't take it

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<v Speaker 2>inside Fenway Park, you can't take it onto a school ground,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't take it into a federal building. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>under street corner.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a time, and there's a time in the place.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, the.

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<v Speaker 9>Guy run the guy running across the street. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 9>play a little middle linebacker for the Patriots. And there's

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<v Speaker 9>rays to stop guys like that. His momentum is forward.

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<v Speaker 9>Just step aside and pull him down instead of shooting him.

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<v Speaker 9>I think this guy that shot him is in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 9>He was not. It wasn't deadly for he wasn't afraid

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<v Speaker 9>for his life.

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<v Speaker 2>You never once, once he's on the ground, he might

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<v Speaker 2>be again. The video that I have you seen the video? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the video that I saw was the guy who runs

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<v Speaker 2>across the street. He jumps on this guy and they

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<v Speaker 2>both hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the fact that he didn't do some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of judicial or karate move to step out of his

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<v Speaker 2>way like a matador and pull him down. And I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that move because.

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<v Speaker 9>Not a not a not a matador karate. It's a

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<v Speaker 9>basic uh you know, if you're in the service, the

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<v Speaker 9>Marine Corps. I was in the let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it's something that you learn.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it's a it's a matter door move.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that as well as I do, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>done it and you've done it. You know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you step aside.

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<v Speaker 12>This DNA and this DNA every single day on the news,

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<v Speaker 12>not the changes, but every single day it's another shooting

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<v Speaker 12>of somebody. And I just came from Ado. I just

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<v Speaker 12>came from a duty football game, and I and I

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<v Speaker 12>felt good because all the kids from the school were

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<v Speaker 12>they they were cheering the team and and they were

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<v Speaker 12>all wearing red, white and blue flags and whatever, and

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<v Speaker 12>it gave my heart good. I said, Jesus, there is

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<v Speaker 12>a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would have been right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you, I would have been right there

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Brian, Brian, I got to run because I

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<v Speaker 2>got the news coming after. So let me let me

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<v Speaker 2>let you go for now. Thanks so much for calling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really appreciate it. Okay, okay, by Honey is

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<v Speaker 2>your wife, I'm your friend. We'll be back. Never been

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<v Speaker 2>called honey in the radio before. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been called honey in the radio anyway. He was excited.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break, we'll come right back on Night's that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take at least a couple of more

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<v Speaker 2>callers in this II. Leen and Jack, you're both late,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to accommodate you. Right after the ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock news