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She is forever, yeah, I said forever, focus on expanding
pet knowledge. Her latest feet It is a must get
book it is called in en Yang two point oh
Nutrition for Dogs. Please welcome to our show the renowned
holistic veterinarian doctor Judy Morgan. Welcome, Welcome, doctor Judy. Thank
you so much, so happy to be here. All right,
all right, we'll going to get this party started, folks.
I got the pleasure of meeting in person doctor Judy. Oh.
I guess it was back in twenty three at the
Global Pet Expo when I was limping with a torn meniscus.
I'm happy to tell you I now have a new
fake knee and I am back to walking, running, playing softball,
taking my dogs for walks. It's been a miracle. But
when I met you back then, you created a new
pet day of the year, something to add to our calendar.
And I want you to tell everybody first, what is
June twenty second mean every year? Why should we pay
paying attention? So June twenty second I joined up with
bow Wow Labs to start Pet Choking Awareness Day, and
it is amazing how many incidents of pet choking occur
every year. And I worked in emergency medicine for ten years.
I worked in clinical practice for thirty six years and
saw so many choking incidents, and they were all preventable.
And actually I've had choking incidents with my own dogs
that were really preventable. Yes, so it can happen to anyone,
but it is preventable. And we feel that with more
education and awareness, people will know what not to do,
what to watch for. And once you know, like once
you know you can't unknown, yes, thank you, that's a
good quote. What you know you can't unknow, you can't unknow,
and so you will be more aware and you'll know
what to watch for. As a matter of fact, about
three weeks ago, one of my dogs had a choking incident. Okay,
spilled the bean. It was just a dry cookie. I
had made some cookies for them, and it was a
little dry and crumbly. And this was one of my breakycephalics.
My one would be most pushed in face and so
the smallest throat in airway, and so she chiled down
on it was maybe coconut flour, and she chowed down
on the cookie and it broke apart, and then she
sort of was inhaling it and getting it kind of
gooey stuck in her throat, and so I saw what
was happening, ran over and you know, scooped out of
her mouth what I could, and you know, kind of
clapped her on the chest to get her to cough up. Well,
since that time, so now we're about three weeks out.
She actually went to the cardiologist today, and was at
the veterinarian last week because since then she's been blowing
bubbles out her Now and it only happens about once
every four or five days, but she literally will be
foaming out her nose and fuck the last last straw
about the third episode, she won't eat when this is happening.
She's having too much trouble breathing, she's blowing bubbles, and
so I'm running around the house trying to wipe her
nose to keep her airway clean. And then she let
out two of the biggest sneezes and this white, chunky
stuff flew across the room, and I was like, there
you go, solve the problem. You finally got it out
of there. Don't you wish it was the Hope Diamond
though I would have been so much better. But you know,
but so that happened to me. I know what to
watch for, and thankfully I was there when I fed
it to her. And I saw it happen, so I
know exactly what's going on. But your point is this,
it can happen to anyone, anytime, on anything. A cookie, literally,
a cookie that was just a little too dry for
my breakycephalic dog. And what is your dog's name? Who
is a survivor? I'm a survivor. Gabby. Gabby, okay, so
a little Gabby. So you know, but because of blowing
bubbles out her nose, she has a heart murmer. We're like,
you know what, We're just gonna go to the cardiologist
and check that out and make sure that's nothing and
that what's fine, So you know, but it is one
of those things. And I think she solved the problem
when she snorked out everything a few days ago, so
hopefully we're done with that now. Well, I, as you know,
I'm a master instructor in PET First Date and CPR.
I'm not a veterinarian. I don't play one on TV,
but I work with a lot of great veterinarians like yourself,
and I've taught thousands in PET first State. We do
it fun and all that, but you need to know
that every class I teach, whether it's just for a
basic class to people wanting a sixteen hour class to
be an instructor. Every single one is being told about
June twenty second, and every single one gets the link
to your Prevent Choking website. That's how we spread awareness.
Knowledge is power, right, Knowledge is power. And so I'm
glad Gabby's okay, just the stupid things, and I will
try not to blow in bubbles out of my nose
for the rest of this episode. I get a little
twitchy about it. Now. Well, before we dive into the book,
I want to dive into a little bit about yourself
a holistic vet. I love that you would take East
and West and you blend, and I wish there were
more integrative veterinarians out there. But I think maybe maybe
in twenty twenty four, finally are people starting to realize
that Eastern medicine and Western medicine there's a place for both,
and the benefactors could be our pets. Many pet owners
are waking up to it, Okay, many veterinarians are still
pushing back so hard, so hard. I'm in a couple
of veterinary groups on social media that are just veterinarians
in general, and man the pushback is crazy. You know,
they complain about clients coming in and asking for tighters.
They really complain hard about people who are vaccine hesitant.
They complain really hard about people who want to feed
raw food or make their own food. So there is
still just a ton of pushback in the veterinary community
for the folks. Some people, you know, they get that OUs.
We got to come in and get our eighteen year
old cat. Twenty seven vaccinationis twenty seven vaccinations and they
never leave the house tighter. And there's a lot of
discussion about this, you know, when you talk to virologists
and immunologists. I did a great interview with a homeopath
yesterday and we were talking about this. So a tighter
is a blood test that you can have done by
your veterinarian. And basically that blood test you can run
different tests, but you can test whether your pet has
antibodies for distemper or parbo or rabies or hepatitis or
for feline distemper. So and that tighter when it comes
back if it is showing that they have antibodies against
the disease. It's sort of like being pregnant. You're either
are or you aren't, So either you have or you don't.
And if they have any bodies, that means their body
is their immune system will recognize that virus if they
are exposed to it, and it will build an immune response. Therefore,
you don't need to get more pregnant, you don't need
to get more vaccination. On top of that, they're already protected. Now,
there are some who some of the big immunologists and
virologists will will say that if they ever have a
positive tighter, that means their body responded to either an
exposure or a vaccination, and if it responded once, it
will always respond even if you're tight. So if you
had a positive tighter and then three years later it
comes back negative, that begs the question, well, now do
I have to vaccinate or not have to vaccinate? Okay,
And a lot of the immunologists say no, the body
has what we call a memory response that we can't
measure by a tighter, and so those memory cells will
kick in if they are exposed, so we don't have
a way to measure that, but we know it's there,
it's running around in the body, so it will still respond.
But if you need to show proof that your pet
is protected in order to get into boarding, daycare, grooming training, whatever.
A tighter is a really good way to say, I
don't want to give them more vaccines, because the more
vaccines we give, the more autoimmune disease we see, the
more allergies we see, the more inflammatory bow disease, arthritis,
kidney disease, you name it. And when you're talking about
the kiddie cats who never go outside, and I actually
have seven outdoor cats that patrol my barn, they each
got one rabies vaccine, one distemper vaccine, and they are
very well protected. And they're the healthiest cats I've ever had.
They're raw ed, they're obligate carnivores, they are on a
meat diet, and they are incredibly, incredibly healthy. One of
them came home sick the other day. He had a
temperature of one hundred and four and a half, and
so I put him on SubQ fluids and I gave
him an anti inflammatory for two days, kept him in
the house for four days. He's out hunting with the
rest of him and just as happy as can be.
And the interesting thing is I don't have a license,
and I don't have a clinic here in North Carolina
when I retired from clinical practice, I said, that's it.
So when I took him into the veterinary office, Oh, okay,
you don't know who doctor Judy Morgan is. Yeah, well
they do know who I am, which is kind of funny.
And they know that I'm very holistic and that they're
raw at and I don't vaccinate them past that first vaccine.
And when she did his lab work, his white cell
count was almost non existent. And she said, oh my gosh,
I'm so worried. As white cells are wiped out, his
immune system is really down. I'm like, no kidding. He's
got a temper of one hundred and four and a half.
So and I said, no, I'm just going to give
him fluids. I'm going to bring his temperature down, and
if I have to all force feed him because cats
can't go longer than a couple of days without eating.
And she wanted to put him on antibiotics and I said, well,
this is a virus. We know this is a virus
because his white cells are wiped out. And she said,
I know. But because his white cells are wiped out,
that leaves him more open to bacterial infection. I'm like, well,
he's going to be isolated in my house, in one
room by himself, right, He's not going to be exposed
to any bacteria. And antibiotics don't work as a preventative.
They treat an infection that you already have. So I
said no to the antibiotics. And you know, this would
be something for a client without a medical background that
a DVM after their name, it'd be really hard for
them to just walk in and say no, I'm not
taking those antibiotics. And my cat did fine without the antibiotics.
And oh god, one of my other oh my dog
when she choked and I took her in last Gabby.
When I took her in again, lab work was perfectly normal,
but the veterinarian wanted to put her on antibiotics, and
she said, well, just in case she's got an infection
up in her sciences. And I'm like, she doesn't have
an infection. There's nothing yellow, there's nothing green. It's clear bubbles.
They're coming out, clear bubbles. So again I and you
looked at your champagne bottle and it's still got a
cork in it, so everything, So I said, you know again,
so we have to as pet parents we have to
educate ourselves. And that's really what my whole platform is about.
It's education for pet parents. Well you are you know,
you're known as the pet advocate, and I do even
though you're on our show and it's the longest running
pet podcast on the planet. Well behave. I want everybody
to go to your show, Naturally Healthy Pets Podcast because
knowledge is power and I want to make my producer
happy because I meant to do this earlier. But everybody,
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America's pet edutainer Ardenmore.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Ardenmore. We've got a really powerful person
behind a microphone now on our show, and she is
doctor Judy Morgan, a holistic venerian. She's authored is it
eight or nine books? Eight ten eight eight. She has
a great podcast. It's easy to find her doctor Judymorgan
dot com. We started this with a little bit of
a tough topic, and that is vaccination, to vaccinate or not?
And knowledge is good medicine, as you will say, but food,
food is such a fuel. And years ago I worked
at Prevention Magazine and Rodale Press and I got to
learn a lot about I wrote herb books and I
got to meet Eastern medicine and folks you know, and
there's part of this globe, doctor Judy, that has been
using Eastern medicine for hundreds, hundreds, hundreds of years, thousands. Well,
I was trying to be dramatic, but the point is
here is somebody like you born in New Jersey, not
exactly the holistic capital of the world. No, not at all.
But that begs the question if somebody from New Jersey
who is a veterinarian and started to see that I
need to shift my focus to integrate and be East
and West, can you kind of share that? I mean,
what was the light bulb moment for you? Well, I
practiced completely traditional medicine for the first ten years, and
I was a partner in a clinic and a postcard
came across my desk for veterinary Orthopedic manipulation and it
talked about how we can help our patients heal faster
and particularly after surgery from like cruciant ligaments and back
disease and that sort of thing. And so I thought, well,
that sounds good. My partner does crushit ligament surgeries all
the time. He, you know, was a great surgeon, like
to do some cool stuff. And I said, I love surgery,
but that wasn't one that I did, and I thought, well,
you know, this would be a way for me to,
you know, jump on the team and help these animals,
even though I'm not the one performing the surgery. So
I signed up for it, went to the course and
I walked in and I was a few minutes late
because I got lost, and so things were already going.
And after about forty minutes, I'm sitting there going, I
think this guy's talking about chiropractic. I'm not sure the
seaword of the sea word. And I mean I was
under traditional practice and always a traditional person. And the
funny thing is when I was pregnant for my first child,
my son, and about six weeks before I was due,
he was sitting on my sciatic nerve and I couldn't walk.
Made it very difficult to go to work. So I
was really myself around on a little doctor stool in
the office try to work on patients. It didn't go
very well, so I got put on bed rest, and
you know, after a few weeks of that, I thought
I just wanted to shoot myself. So I found a chiropractor,
and I had never been to one. I didn't believe
in it. But I found one who specialized in pregnant women,
specifically for the kids sitting on the sciatic nerve, and
so wow, I literally was like, you know, draped over
my husband's shoulder, getting you know, hobbling in to get there.
And after he worked on the one treatment, I ran
out of the building and I was like, that's cool.
But you know, never dawned on me that that was
something we should be doing with our animals. So since
once I got to that course, since I was there
and we had paid for it, as I want not
even now, and I stuck it out. And then the
very first patient back on you know, that first Monday
morning back, the dog was carried in, couldn't walk. I
did my newfound trick on it. And then I went
to get the drugs because I was sure the dog
was going to need all that traditional stuff. And I
turned around and saw the dog run down the hallway
and I went, what happened there? Wow? And so it
was like a ninety five pounds shepperd. I was hooked.
I just went, oh my gosh. And that just opened
the door to alternative, complimentary, whatever we want to call it.
It opened the door to me and I said, well,
if that was so cool and so powerful, what else
is out there? You can be a diplomatic, chiropractic, medicine
and veterinary right now. Finally, it's taken a little bit
of time. I think the people from the University of Florida,
right the Florida No Florida is actually they've got doctor
she who owns chi institute. So they are big into
the Chinese and Eastern medicine. Oh back, okay, that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: But there is actually certification sanctioned by AVMA for animal
chiropractic and there's a couple of different schools that you
can go to now, so you know it is and
it's really interesting. It's state by state, so some states
human chiropractors can work on animals, in other states they cannot.
In some states you have to be a veterinarian in
order to do chiropractic. It's different everywhere. And I know
that there's a lot of chiropractors who are treating their
human clients animals kind of under the radar, and you know,
as long as the thing that they have to realize
is that the biodynamics are different, so humans, our bowling
ball sits on the top. On our animals, the bowling
ball hangs off one end, and so the dynamics are
a little bit different. Like for us, we get a
lot of compression injury, and the animals it's totally different.
So the biggest thing we see with dogs is you know,
jerking on the leash. Come over here, come over here,
and you know, so we're constantly cranking their necks, in
their heads, you know, harnesses where they're pulling, you know,
and then all the different sports that we do with
our dogs can can cause some serious injuries as well
if they're not well conditioned. So I think chiropractic has
a huge place in medicine. I wish more veterinarians would
jump on board with it. I'm never going to look
at a bowling ball the same way anymore. You make
a good point. So here you are, you traditionally trained
in a practice, but you let yourself be open to
new knowledge that may be very century old knowledge. And
I think that's why you have succeeded in the way
you have is because you check things out now. I
was a newspaper reporter investigative reporter for twenty years. Best
advice I ever got from my crusty editor was aught end.
That's how we talked. If your mona Tassa loves you,
check it out. Well, I think if somebody told you something,
doctor Judy Morgan, you're going to check it out. Am
I correct? Let me tell you. I have so many
tools in my toolbox and things and supplements and things
that I use the clients brought to me. So the
first when I first started doing things that were a
little bit alternative, people, you know, the words started getting
out and so people would come in at a lot
of them were people who had already been trying to
treat their animals holistically. And I'll never forget the first
time a client came in and they didn't want to
use that was I think. We only had Rimadol was
our nonsteroidal anti inflammatory we were using for pain and inflammation.
And I didn't have a lot of things alternatively that
I knew about at the time. I had a few things,
and so this client walked in and they said, oh,
I used DGP, And I said, well, what the heck
is DGP? This is dog on pain. And I said, okay, quick,
let me look up dog on pain. I looked it
up and it's It was one of the first products
that I brought on board. It is still on our
shelves in the warehouse. It's a great product. Not that
I'm doing a promotion for them, because we have a
lot of great products in the warehouse, but that was
one a client brought to me and said, what do
you think of this? And I can tell you now
that almost daily I have anywhere from one to a
dozen emails or messages from people saying, check out this product.
My vet wants me to use this, my holistic practitioner
recommended this, or I found this as a set of
what about the ingredients? And so I'm being asked to
evaluate products ingredients all the time. Not to mention that
on my desk at any given time are boxes of
products from small startup companies or somebody with an idea
and they put something together and they're trying to get
their product launched, and so they'll send it to us
and say, you know, what do you think of my product?
What would you do differently? And I do this with
lot of food companies as well. Those I mean, my
association with all Provide pet Food started with an email
where a client asked me about their ingredients and put
me in touch with the company. This was the first
year they were in business, and I said, well, if
I were doing that food, I would do X, Y
and Z. And so these emails kept going back and
forth for quite a while, and a year later I
actually got to meet the people that owned the pet
food company, and when I went in, they said, here's
our new formulations. We did absolutely everything that you said
in all of those emails. I said, really, because I
wasn't telling you to do things. I was just saying, well,
ill I was going to do it, I would, you know,
I would make these kinds of changes. This is what
as a client, this is what I would be looking
for if I wanted to feed that to my pet.
And they did all of it, and it's so, you know,
to me, it's kind of fun. And I just had
some pre vet students who came came to the office
over the weekend. They wanted to take a tour and learn,
you know, kind of what we're doing. And they're very
much into the holistic thing, and you know, so when
they came in, I said, you know, they said to me, well,
who decides now whether a product gets gets onto your website, like,
who makes that decision? And I said, well, the final
say is is always mine, but my daughter, Yeah, your
name's on the website, but my daughter is the CEO,
and she's an engineer and she's brilliant, and she has
gotten so good and actually most of the people have
worked for us now they've gotten so good at reading
these labels that a lot of times they'll look at
the label and it doesn't even make it to my desk. Hey, everybody,
we're speaking of doctor Judy Morgan. You gotta check out
her website, doctor Judymorgan dot com. She does a lot,
she writes books, she analyzes, she's a trailblazer. She's a
trailblazer because she's a pet advocate and she's also an
advocate for pet parents. So we're going to dive in.
We've been teasing her, but we wanted her backstory. And
when we come back, we're going to learn a little
bit about her latest book, and it is called Yin
and Yang two point zero Nutrition for Dogs, subtitle maximizing
health with whole Foods not drugs. So everybody stick around, sit, stay,
we'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Hard Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet
Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. I have one
of my all time favorite vetinarians on the planet right here,
and she is doctor Judy Morgan, and she is a
holistic veterinarian and she keeps going. She's like an energizer bunny.
I don't think you ever run out of energy. So
years ago, for those that can see this on my
YouTube channel, show your original book if you have it handy.
My very very first book that I wrote was for
Beetles to Natural. That was in twenty fourteen, and so
the eighth book just came out. But in twenty seventeen
I wrote Yin and Yong Nutrition for Dogs, maximizing health
with whole foods not drugs. And there are two dogs
wearing French berets. Yeah. Actually his is a little Chinese.
Oh see chef's jacket in hers is a little like
old Lady Apron dress. They're dressed. They're dressed for cooking.
Are they your dogs? They have both passed unfortunately, But
that's MYRASU and that is George. George just passed in
September at the age of seventeen, so and he had
all kinds of issues, but he was just the happiest
little camper in the world. And we had the most
fun doing that photo shoot all day to get these
guys they look happy. So you wrote this book in
twenty seventeen, but things have accelerated and your knowledge power
has accelerated, so you got you got kind of a
demand to say, can we get a two point o
version of this? So how much new content is the
new book Yin and Yang two point zero? Part of
the difference in the first one in twenty seventeen. There
are recipes, So this is based on Chinese medicine food therapy,
and food therapy goes across all species because everything that
we eat is going to affect our body, whether it
is going to help resolve phlem like mucus. Like when
you have a cold and you've got a stuffy nose,
there are things that you can eat or drink, you know,
in different teas and things that are going to help
dissolve that and make it go away. There are things
that we can eat to help our immune system, things
that help our heart, help our kidneys, help our liver.
So that's what the recipes are about. So we've got
recipes for different kinds of liver disease, kidney disease, heart disease,
weight loss, obesity, diabetes, cushings, you name it. Oh my.
So the first book, this guy over here, when I
made it, not all the recipes are complete and balanced.
It basically lists the foods that are going to help
put together a recipe, and then there's a chapter in
the back that tells you, Okay, these are the things
you need to make sure you have. You have to
have a calcium supplement in there, you have to have
an I and eye and a zinc and so I
went through that, and you know, but the problem was
a lot of people don't math. A lot of people
don't want to think. They just want quick, easy, like
tell me everything I need to put in there, do
not make me have to figure it out myself. So
I went back and reformulate it, did all the recipes.
That's why say sixty plus new reformulated all the recipes
and made them complete and balanced. For feti AFF, which
is the European standards, it's above the American AFGO standards. Wow,
and I did a little homework. Wait a minute, this book,
Ladies and Gents Yin and Yang two point zero is
now the number one best seller in small animal veterinary
medicine on Amazon. I think it's number four on dog nutrition,
but you're going to blow them away. Right when it
came out, it was number one in six categories. Oh
my gosh, move over, oscars, move over. It actually made
it all the way up. It made it all the
way up to number two hundred and ninety two of
all six million books on Amazon. So yes, it's very popular. Well,
that shows you the demand, the need, the hunger demand.
Hunger is the is the word hunger for good food knowledge?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And you know the thing is people said, well I
already have this one. Why would I want this one? Well,
not only is everything now balanced, but I did an
even deeper dive into the Chinese medicine. So besides figuring
out your pets person at their Chinese medicine personality, what
element they are, and that tells you a lot about
where their strengths and weaknesses are going to be, both
emotionally and physically. So if you have a wood personality dog,
they're going to be prone to having liver cheese stagnation, frustration,
which is going they could have a liver and eye
issues to eye issues liver blood deficiency, which is tended
in ligament injuries, so cruciate tears. How are we going
to prevent those? This tells you, Well, let me say
before you because I want to. I want people to
know how you set up this book because it's brilliant.
So this book is like over two hundred and twenty
some pages, but you kind of give the the kind
of the background about Yin and yang and all that,
But then you get into things like fire, water, wood, metal,
things like that, and I'm like, what is she building
a house? Is she building them fire? What is she doing?
So you explain that wood kind of represents issues with
the liver. Can you explain what about metal? So metal
is lungs and large intestine. Every element has a season,
a color, and a organ system that is involved with
So the color for metal is white. So if we
have a metal personality, they're the ones that like all
their ducks in a row. These are the dogs that
are really really good at doing obedience because they like
to follow the rules, like just tell me what the
rules are. I'm gonna do them. If you don't tell
them what the rules are, they are so confused they
it's really a problem. And that's how you get them
out of balance. Earth animals, they're the big slow that
yellow lab. Earth animals tend to be round and yellow
and yellow foods are what feed them. So if they're
too obese, well then we've got to, you know, kind
of tamp down the earth a little bit. And how
do we do that and keep that pancreas from getting
in pain exactly? And we have lots of pancreatitis recipes
in here because that's a big problem. So each element
has its own organ system, has its own season. And
when you know the seasonality, so wood is spring, the
color that goes with it is green, So the new
green leaves the new green grass, so it's easy to remember.
That's associated with the liver. Well, the liver is very
commonly associated with eye problems and with seizures. So when
spring starts to roll around, if we have a liver
animal and everything is in too much excess because that's
their season, their seizures might ramp up. They're conjunctive itis,
their ear infections, their anal gland problems might be worse
than the spring because that's the season when it's at
its peak. So there's just so much. And then every
element has a mother element that feeds it because the
mama always nourishes the baby. So let's say you have
an Earth element whose digestive system is very weak, Well,
we can feed the mother element and the mother element
will nourish the child. We also could just feed the child.
If we have an element that is excess, so it's
got too much stuff going on, like that would element.
If it's in excess, well then we feed the grandmother
to it. So we go back to on the cycle.
We feed the grandmother, and the grandmother disciplines it and
says no, no, you stay in place. So all of
that is explained in here. And so we talk about
you know, if your animal is showing these symptoms, and
there's little charts to tick off that. So you filled
out and you go, oh look, oh my gosh, we've
got ten in that category and one everywhere else. Well,
I guess this is where our problem is. Well I
like that because I'm not a veterinarian, and your readers
may not be. But you also recognize the importance of
having knowledge but also being able to explain it, and
so we have more resources on the website and in
the back of the book, we have a whole bunch
of resources available different websites to help people for people
that want Yin and yang type nutrition, like you want
to help feed your in a balance, right in a balance,
but you don't want to make your own food. There
are also I think three or four different pet food
companies now that make different element diets. One of them
is my line is called Constitutions made by All Provide,
and so there's a lot of information on their website
that also, you know, talks about when you would use
each one of the diets, and it's really interesting. I
had one person she said, oh, my dog is a
wood element, so I bought the wood diet, thinking that
was what he needed. Well, come to find out, no,
her dog actually was too excess in the wood. It
had too much going on, and so when she fed
the wood diet, the dog got loose stools. And she said,
I went back and read stuff again and realized no,
I actually needed to calm down the wood. So she
bought the metal diet because metal is the ax that
chops down the tree. She bought the metal diet, everything,
calm everything, perfect tools, you know, the bal disease everything,
Everything was then fine. So it's it's so powerful. And
the great thing is like if you if you screwed
up and you pick the wrong one, it's just food.
You're you know what's the worst that will If they're
already excess, you might make them a little more excess.
You know, if they're deficient, they might get a little
more deficient. You can see pretty quick changes. Yeah, Hey,
we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna wrap
up with doctor Judy. She's been very generous for her
time and I'm never gonna look at the tin Man
the same way now in the Wizard of Oz. But
everybody please go to her website, Dr Judymorgan dot com.
Sit stay, We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden Moore, one of my personal heroes
is here and it is doctor Judy Morgan, and she
knows I'm into pet safety and she's met pet safety
cat Casey and pet safety dog con at least on
a zoom call. I want you to know that they're
both ten, both doing really well, both eating good food,
both getting mental and physical exercise because we've got to
work there, noodles. Do you sleep depends most of my life.
I've been insomnia. Oh really? Really? Yeah? Do you get
some of your best ideas while you're horizontal in bed?
I do, yeah, somewhere between two am and six am,
all kinds of creative. The problem is whether or not
I remember it when I get up with the work. So,
when you're not saving the world through food and good
knowledge on good traditional Chinese medicine, what does doctor Judy
Morgan do for fun? Oh? Man? I love travel, Okay,
I love these places. Well, I used to love going
to the Caribbean, and that was on my vision board
this year and we had to cancel it because my
mom fell on our trip out west to do all
the canyons, so we didn't get to the Caribbean. But
that's one of my favorite places. But I have been
invited to speak in Malta in February, So we're going
to Malta and Italy. Two years ago I got invited
to speak in England, so we did England and Scotland.
I have a rescue farm with a bunch of farm
animals that were at the kill pen auction. So I've
got three donkeys. Is that in North Carolina and North Carolina? Yeah?
So we've got donkeys, mules, miniature horses, miniature mules, chickens, goats, dogs, cats,
the What does it feel like when you're hanging out
with a bunch of four leggers? It is awesome. I
have wanted for some dumb reason, I have wanted a
donkey since I was six years old. Well, don't be
a deackass about it. Call it a donkey, all right?
So what now that you have a donkey? My sister
always wanted horses and I, so just to be different,
I was like, so I collected, you know, donkey statues
and stuff. So I finally got donkeys when I was
sixty two years old. And are you glad you did?
I love them. They are the Oh tell me why
why donkeys?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: First of all, their ears are the coolest thing in
the world. But they corgis. Yeah, they are so intelligent
and their guard animals. A lot of people. If you
go buy a field of cows and you see a
donkey out there, that's the guard animal because they protect
from coyotes and foxes and those sorts of things, so
they're actually really good protectors. The three that we got
came from the kill pen, but mama donkey had a
one month old little little jack and then the other
little girl that we got was supposed to be three
years old, but she was three months. So both of
them got raised by the one mama, and it took
us six months to be able to touch the mama.
She had been so abused and neglected. And she's actually
going through an issue right now with her feet because
they were We've had her for three years, but they
were in such bad shape when she came and now
it's you know, really biting her in the butt or
biting her in the hoof bidy, Oh my gosh. So
the vet, after we x rayed the feet and did everything,
the vet said, you know, she would be really better.
She wasn't walking around the field with these bandages on
her hooes. Can we confine her? And I said, oh, yeah,
we've got this little runout we can confine her in.
And you know, the other ones are never out of
her sight because it's not it's a twenty acre farm,
but they're always in sight. Well, they got far enough
away that she wanted to join them, and she tried
to go over the fence. She didn't make it. She
got halfway over, and luckily someone was working on the
farm and saw her hung up on the fence and
had to lift her off. And luckily this person happened
to be big enough to be able to lift her
off the fence. But now the three donkeys are having
to all three of them be confined because she is
now on lockdown and has to have bandage changes every day.
And so that's what I do in my spare time.
What is her name? MoMA Ella? Ella is Ella. This
is Arden talking to you. We want you to heal
and heal completely and fast. And you got your kids
with you, and you got doctor Judy Morgan, so you
can have picked a better script for a healing path,
would you agree, doctor Judy. Yeah. And she's so sweet,
she's the sweetest one now and just she's so trusting.
But they're really they're funny. If a stranger comes to
the farm, if you have a carrot, you'll probably get
them to come over. Otherwise, they're going to keep their
distance and they're going to check you out and make
sure that you're not there to do anything bad. They're
just really protective there. They're pretty funny. What about in
the house. What kind of critters do you have in
the house? We have two English toy spaniels, the cavalier,
King Charles, a blind mostly deaf cocker Spaniel, and two
indoor kiddies. Okay, I've always been told that the Cavalier,
which is kind of like a dressed up cocker Spaniel,
is called the love sponge. What does that mean? And
is that true? It is absolutely true. They just want
to always be in your presence. They always want to
be touching you. So this little guy is Forrest in
the cover of the cover Gang two point zero. That's
for dogs. Oh hi Forest, And he's actually laying in
a crate right next to me. And Forrest is three.
And Forrest had to get his own name stamp for
signing the books, so that is his Paul print. So
you can get a signed copy from Forrest if you
would like. Okay, that's a deal. I know what I'm
going to be doing. Okay, So he's uh, he's three now.
And I did one of those really weird things. I
got my dog a dog because the other two dogs
are older, and so we adopted an English another English
toy spaniel who is four days older than him. So,
and they've been together this what's this one's that is
Gilmore Gilly and they are best best best buddies, and
they're like brothers. They fight and they play and they're
rough and then they sleep on top of each other
and they're just are insuperable there. It's really funny. And
Forrest had an older friend and that one passed and
then he was kind of despondent, so we got him
somebody his own agent size, and oh my gosh. So
I'm now a big fan of get your Dog at
the I like it. I like it. Any partying message.
I want everyone to please get their pause on. Doctor
Judy Morgan's a new book in the Yang two point
zero Nutrition for Dogs. What's a parting message you could
give us? Two layers us humans, raising naturally healthy pets
and keeping your Pets Naturally Healthy. My other two books
for those who are not as familiar with the holistic
way of thinking, start with raising Naturally Healthy Pets. And
then if because that one talks about you know how
to find the right veterinarian, how to talk to your veterinarian,
particularly if you have different thoughts and ideas, do you
need a train or how to find that trainer, how
to house train, and this is for dogs and cats.
And then Keeping your Pets Naturally Healthy is also dogs
and cats. That one has over forty recipes in it
for not necessarily for Chinese medicine standpoint, more from a
health standpoint like we've got pank greytitis or liver disease
or whatever. But it has a lot of natural therapies
and alternatives, so it talks about traditional therapies that are
available and what you could do as an alternative to them.
So both of also really really popular. My parting words
for pet owners never stop learning, Always ask questions. Don't
be afraid to ask questions of your veterinarian. Don't be
afraid to say, are there any side effects to that medication?
Is that medication going to play well with this other medication?
Particularly if you're at an emergency service or a new
veterinarian that they don't know your pet and all the
different things that they might have going on. You know,
really ask questions. When you go to the pharmacy and
get a medication, you get a big long thing that
explains all the side effects the interactions. We never do
that in veterinary medicine. Please ask because I can tell
you if you knew the potential side effects, particularly a
lot of these new drugs that are coming out that
have very serious side effects that you're not told about.
And halftime, the veterinarians don't know the side effects either,
which is really sad. But the same thing happens in
human medicine, by the way. That's right, Yeah, no, now
it's power. This is good. This is good. Hey, everybody.
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