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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm Teleah and we are
Speaker 2: Crimes and Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Speaker 3: Hi Shannon, Hey Tanya, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good, not bad? How about you?
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Speaker 2: Summer.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's the best. It's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I have part two of the Michael Malloy story
Speaker 2: to tell.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait.
Speaker 2: I know you're running in your seat.
Speaker 4: Oh. I've been thinking about him, about that alcohol and
Speaker 4: the wood grain and just the constant these guys just
Speaker 4: not giving up in his intestinal true intestinal fortitude of
Speaker 4: this man.
Speaker 2: Right, It's amazing. Yes, Before I get into it, I
Speaker 2: would just like to remind everyone to hit subscribe or
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna remind everyone where we left off in case
Speaker 2: you know it's been a week since you've listened, or
Speaker 2: it could be like a year since you've listened to it,
Speaker 2: because we could you. So, I introduced Joseph Patrick Murray.
Speaker 2: He was thirty one years old. He was looking for
Speaker 2: work at the time. He stumbled his way into Marino's Bar,
Speaker 2: and he kind of looked like Michael molloy. So what
Speaker 2: the Murder Trust did was they put Nicholas Mellory's ID
Speaker 2: in his pocket and they were getting ready to do
Speaker 2: something with him. Oh remember they had that plan where
Speaker 2: they were going to hold Michael up and then the
Speaker 2: car was going to run at him and they're going
Speaker 2: to let go of him, right, Yes, So they did
Speaker 2: that with Joseph Murray and they get back in their car,
Speaker 2: like the car hits Joseph Murray, they all pile back
Speaker 2: into probably Hershey's cab and whatever. So now they're convinced
Speaker 2: that Joseph Murray is dead. But they found themselves in
Speaker 2: the same situation that they were in with Michael malloy
Speaker 2: because the last place they had left him, the last
Speaker 2: time they had seen him, they left him in the street, yes,
Speaker 2: and they left him with Nicholas Mellory's ID in his pocket.
Speaker 2: So you know they're they're wondering, like, Okay, did Joseph
Speaker 2: Murray die? Is Michael dead? Hers She turned in the
Speaker 2: cab that night to his employer after having driven ten
Speaker 2: hours and only making a dollar forty little suspicion, well,
Speaker 2: a little suspicious, So he walks into the office to
Speaker 2: turn in the key and he found a message from
Speaker 2: his boss that Detective Lloyd had stopped by to discuss
Speaker 2: some things with him. So, going to Marino's speakeasy that night,
Speaker 2: Hershey brought the note with him that his boss had
Speaker 2: left him about this connective wanting to talk to him,
Speaker 2: He brings it and he hands it over to tough
Speaker 2: Tony Maglioni. So when hersh went to the police station
Speaker 2: to meet with Detective Lloyd, tough Tony waited in the car,
Speaker 2: and when Hershey came out, he relayed that a witness
Speaker 2: had reported seeing his cab run over a pedestrian, which
Speaker 2: happened to be Joseph Murray right now. So after they
Speaker 2: talked to him, they let her she go and Hershey
Speaker 2: and tough Tony drove to Tony Marino's house wake him
Speaker 2: up and tell him about this news that guess what
Speaker 2: Joseph Murray survived. No, oh, my gosh, yes, they're fucking
Speaker 2: it up all over there.
Speaker 3: Our Keystone cops about it.
Speaker 2: So they're not able to collect any insurance money on
Speaker 2: his death.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you about another guy. So his name
Speaker 2: is Valen Jenkins. He worked nights at a feed company,
Speaker 2: stacking bags of feed and processing orders. One night, while
Speaker 2: he's performing his mundane tasks, he sees two men pulling
Speaker 2: a third guy out of a cab and holding him up,
Speaker 2: and this car is running at him. Okay, so he
Speaker 2: he he's the witness who sees her driving his cab
Speaker 2: into Joseph Murray. Right, So he took note of the
Speaker 2: license plate before the cab screeched away, and he called
Speaker 2: emergency services and he turned in the license plate number
Speaker 2: to the cops. Joseph Murray was ended up remaining in
Speaker 2: the hospital with his injuries for forty five days.
Speaker 3: He was sad. Yeah, I bet run over by a
Speaker 3: car hit. Yes, I bet you. He backed over him.
Speaker 3: It was not going to be pretty right.
Speaker 2: The hospital staff found Nicholas Mallory, the Nicholas Mellory id
Speaker 2: on Joseph Murray, and the hospital staff turned it over
Speaker 2: to the police.
Speaker 3: Good So, when.
Speaker 2: Red began calling hospitals and morgues to find out, you know,
Speaker 2: the whereabouts of Joseph Mallory, there was no patient or
Speaker 2: body or anything as society. So Frank Pascual remember him.
Speaker 2: He was becoming more and more irritated with the incompetencies
Speaker 2: that were.
Speaker 4: Surrounding incompetence, that's a good awesome word for this.
Speaker 2: You know, surrounding this murder plan. Brother, and he just
Speaker 2: really he was anxious. He just really wanted to have
Speaker 2: it done. So he reached out to a man named
Speaker 2: doctor Frank Manzilla, and he was a man that Frank
Speaker 2: had often used to sign death certificates in his funeral business.
Speaker 2: So he quietly discloses the plot that they had come
Speaker 2: up with to murder Michael Malloy. And he discloses this
Speaker 2: to doctor Manzella, and he says, I'll give you one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks if you sign the death certificate
Speaker 2: of any individual who ends up dead as long as
Speaker 2: the name Nicholas Mallory is on the death certificate.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So doctor Manzila, because everybody's hurting for a box, he says, sure,
Speaker 2: I'll do this, I'll do it. And now Frank Pascua
Speaker 2: he's working on a new murder scheme.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: The new scheme was that Tony Marino, the owner of
Speaker 2: the speakeasy. He was going to look for a room
Speaker 2: to rent that had a gas jet installed in the wall.
Speaker 2: So what they were going to do is they were
Speaker 2: going to bring their victim into the room. They were
Speaker 2: going to attach a hose to the gas and then
Speaker 2: have that person breathe in the gas and die from
Speaker 2: gas poisoning. And you know, once they were Frank was
Speaker 2: gonna call the doctor to write a death certificate and
Speaker 2: then you know, kaching, they'd have their Nicholas Mellory and
Speaker 2: it would be done.
Speaker 4: These guys are so fucking stupid. I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 4: run a room to asphyxiate. I just keep like a
Speaker 4: freaking mouse trap.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: No one can be direct a bunch of pussies, I think.
Speaker 4: I you know, he's a lou. Everyone's probably a drunk.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, it's elaborate. It's elaborate, right, and it.
Speaker 3: Keeps thinking so highly of yourself. I'm gonna make another plan.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna get caught.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I'm gonna tell another person because Lou slips.
Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna let the person in in the secret. Right,
Speaker 2: there's now like fifty people who know idiots.
Speaker 3: YEA.
Speaker 2: Fortunately for the guys for this murder. Trust they didn't
Speaker 2: have to wait long before they focused on a new victim.
Speaker 2: So two weeks after leaving Michael mlloy's body in the gutter,
Speaker 2: the man the New York Evening Post would eventually call
Speaker 2: Michael Iron. Mike Mallory shuffled in back into the bar,
Speaker 2: and he asked Red to pour him a drink. So
Speaker 2: Red instinctively reaches for this bottle of paint thinner, and
Speaker 2: Michael malloy has showed up and he takes a swig.
Speaker 2: Marino Tony sat next to Michael and playing the concerned friend.
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, where have you been? Right? So Michael
Speaker 2: only remembered part of the story. He said he woke
Speaker 2: up in the gutter screaming for help. He later was
Speaker 2: found by a policeman while standing in the gutter yelling,
Speaker 2: and he was covered in blood. An ambulance took him
Speaker 2: to Fordham Hospital, where he was found to have a
Speaker 2: fractured skull, a fractured shoulder, a concussion, and alcoholism apparently
Speaker 2: was a diagnosis. So he'd been in the hospital for
Speaker 2: only five days when Red and Daniel Kresburg went out
Speaker 2: looking for an apartment for their kill room. They were
Speaker 2: in a rush that now they had the victim again,
Speaker 2: they have Michael. So they go out to find this
Speaker 2: this room to rent. Tough Tony had given them one
Speaker 2: of his counterfeit twenty dollars bills.
Speaker 3: Oh isn't handy?
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the room they decided to rent was at
Speaker 2: an address of twelve ten Fulton Avenue. The landlady was
Speaker 2: Dlia Murphy. She was home when they knocked on her door,
Speaker 2: and Red introduced himself as Joseph Mellory and he asked
Speaker 2: about the room to rent. In the fourth floor walk up,
Speaker 2: they reached a room finding a bear space with nothing
Speaker 2: but a bed, a small table, a chest of drawers,
Speaker 2: a lamp and the gas pigot. So they said, yes,
Speaker 2: this is the room we would like to rent, and
Speaker 2: they paid missus Murphy thanked her, and they went on
Speaker 2: their way back to the speakeasy to report what they'd done.
Speaker 2: So to certain stories recounting the members involvement, tough Tony
Speaker 2: devised a plan to get Michael Mallory in the room
Speaker 2: and get him gassed. By the time the arrests took place,
Speaker 2: tough Tony had been killed, so he was unable to
Speaker 2: defend himself. But this is the story that was told, okay.
Speaker 2: So On February twenty second, nineteen thirty three, Red was
Speaker 2: behind the counter at the speakeasy, Tony Marino sat in
Speaker 2: a corner, tough Tony sat at a table, and Michael
Speaker 2: Mallory had taken his place at the bar. Red gave
Speaker 2: Michael Mallory the whiskey bottle. Daniel Kresburg showed up to
Speaker 2: see Red and tough Tony pouring Michael mlloy drinks. Tough
Speaker 2: Tony took it upon himself to speed things up, and
Speaker 2: he challenged Michael mlloy to a drinking contest. They replaced
Speaker 2: the whiskey with the wood alcohol, and Red took his
Speaker 2: place pouring drinks for Michael mlloy and tough Tony, draining
Speaker 2: their glasses shot after shot. It took about twenty minutes
Speaker 2: and nearly two courts of pink dinner before Michael molloy
Speaker 2: drooped on the stool and sunk to the floor. Once
Speaker 2: he was unconscious, Tony Marino told Red to carry Michael
Speaker 2: malloy to the apartment. He was given a small bottle
Speaker 2: of wood alcohol as he walked out of the speakeasy,
Speaker 2: and he tucked it into his pocket. Around nine point
Speaker 2: thirty that evening, Joseph Mallory Red reached his landlady's door
Speaker 2: with his brother Nicholas in tow and missus Murphy. Delia
Speaker 2: later told investigators that Nicholas was frothing at the mouth
Speaker 2: as her tenant carried him up to his apartment and
Speaker 2: put him to bed.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, it was terrible. I just feel so
Speaker 3: bad for this guy. Right.
Speaker 2: Torture, absolutely, m So it wasn't long after he laid
Speaker 2: down that Michael Mallory started groaning, a sign that consciousness
Speaker 2: was near. Red pulled the bottle out of his pocket
Speaker 2: and he left it on the table for Michael before
Speaker 2: heading back to the speakeasy. Once he got there, Tony
Speaker 2: Marino told Daniel Kresburg, who was sitting playing peanuckle with
Speaker 2: tough Tony, that he needed to go to the apartment
Speaker 2: with Red and make sure he's gone, meaning Michael. So
Speaker 2: Red followed him out the door and the men walked
Speaker 2: back to the apartment together. They went up and closed
Speaker 2: and locked the door behind them. Once they got in
Speaker 2: the room, Daniel Kresburg brought a pistol with him, and
Speaker 2: he aimed it at Michael with one hand while the
Speaker 2: other reached into his jacket pocket and took out a
Speaker 2: length of rubber pipe, because they're going to asphyxiate him now.
Speaker 2: With yes pulling their victim out of the floor, Daniel
Speaker 2: Kresburg attached one end of the hose to the gas
Speaker 2: outlet and put the other end in Michael's mouth. He
Speaker 2: pulled a towel out of another pocket and wrapped it
Speaker 2: around Michael's face to hold any excess gas that might
Speaker 2: escape his mouth, and then he turned on the nozzle
Speaker 2: and let the gas flow into Michael's lungs. It took
Speaker 2: not even five minutes. Four finally stopped breathing, and Daniel
Speaker 2: turned the gas off. The two men, Daniel and Bred,
Speaker 2: stayed in the room for five more minutes, probably just
Speaker 2: to make sure Michael was finally dead, because he's like, yes,
Speaker 2: the undead, He's like the zombie that's.
Speaker 3: Yes, to make sure.
Speaker 2: Daniel declared him dead shortly after, and then he put
Speaker 2: the gun away. He removed the towel and shoved the
Speaker 2: rubber hose into his pocket before they left to go
Speaker 2: back to the speakeasy. Leaving Michael on the floor of
Speaker 2: the apartment. Once they reached the speakeasy, Tony approached Daniel
Speaker 2: to find out what had happened. Relaying everything, Daniel let
Speaker 2: the men in the bar know that Michael was finally dead.
Speaker 2: Tony Marino then ordered Red head back up to the
Speaker 2: apartment and sleep with the corpse to night. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: the landlady wouldn't know what happened until the morning.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Additionally, after as many times as they thought they'd been successful,
Speaker 2: it was better to be safe and ensure that Michael
Speaker 2: was in fact dead. Sored agreed to do this because
Speaker 2: he has this opportunity to sleep in an actual bed.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that didn't happen very often, right, I don't
Speaker 2: think he had a place to crash. I think he
Speaker 2: crashed at the bar a lot. With the news of
Speaker 2: Michael's death, Frank Pesqua went about arranging the plan for
Speaker 2: the doctor and other witnesses to make it seem more
Speaker 2: legitimate for the landlady. Around eight o'clock the following morning,
Speaker 2: Joseph Mellory said good morning to missus Murphy, after which
Speaker 2: he inquired about how his brother was doing. He told her,
Speaker 2: don't bother my brother, he's really sick. So he let
Speaker 2: her know he'd be back shortly, and he walked onto
Speaker 2: the street and he went back to the speakeasy. When
Speaker 2: he returned to the apartment, Frank came with him. So
Speaker 2: Frank introduces himself to Missus Murphy, the landlady. He introduced
Speaker 2: himself is the undertaker, and he informed her that there
Speaker 2: would be a doctor coming by shortly, and Joseph Mallory
Speaker 2: took the mortician up to the fourth floor apartment. Now
Speaker 2: I don't know, like in between, like did she find
Speaker 2: out he was dead, because as fas as he knew,
Speaker 2: he was just sick. But I don't know, But this
Speaker 2: is what happened. Around nine o'clock, Doctor Manziella knocked at
Speaker 2: Missus Murphy's door, asking where the patient was, and she
Speaker 2: took him to the top floor and the door of
Speaker 2: Michael Malloy's room right The doctor briefly looked over the
Speaker 2: patient and declared him dead because of death would be
Speaker 2: low bar pneumonia. They were not going to be collecting
Speaker 2: on the double indemnity the accident clause. Oh, and he
Speaker 2: told Frank to swing by his office later that morning
Speaker 2: for the death certificate. Frank covered the body with a
Speaker 2: sheet and told Red that he was going to go
Speaker 2: to the health department and to request body removal. Okay,
Speaker 2: Doctor Manzela prepared the death certificate for Frank to pick
Speaker 2: up around noon. When he stepped by doctor Manzella's office,
Speaker 2: he looked it over and noted the cause of death
Speaker 2: for Nicholas Mellory before heading to the apartment to await
Speaker 2: Michael mlloy's removal and transport to the mortuary. So when
Speaker 2: a body normally would arrive at Frank Pasqua's funeral parlor,
Speaker 2: it would be embalmed and prepped for burial. Then it
Speaker 2: would be washed and dressed in nice clothing. Someone would
Speaker 2: come and comb the hair and apply makeup, and someone
Speaker 2: would pick out the casket and the gravesite with the
Speaker 2: murder Trust victim. None of that ended up happening. No
Speaker 2: family member was there to view the body or select
Speaker 2: a casket, and no one to wash him up, but
Speaker 2: Frank would still be charging for it. He rolled the
Speaker 2: cheapest wooden box over next to the slab that Michael's
Speaker 2: body was resting on, and he rolled Michael into it
Speaker 2: before closing the lid. The bill Frank sent to the
Speaker 2: insurance company was nothing less than a pure fiction. It
Speaker 2: included a funeral procession, flower arrangements, and a suit. Frank
Speaker 2: was looking at making over three hundred and forty dollars
Speaker 2: on my funeral.
Speaker 3: Gosh right wow.
Speaker 2: The next morning, February twenty fourth, two days after Michael
Speaker 2: was murdered, Frank Pascual went to the Department of Health
Speaker 2: and filed the death certificate On this day too. Michael
Speaker 2: Malloy was laid to rest in the Saint Francis section
Speaker 2: of the cemetery, which was set aside for charity graves.
Speaker 2: The headstone was small and said nothing but Nicholas Mallory.
Speaker 2: The very next day, Frank and Red set out to
Speaker 2: achieve their payday. Now they got to file this with
Speaker 2: the insurance company, right, So, visiting the offices of Metropolitan Life,
Speaker 2: Frank helped Joseph Mallory read Nicholas's brother, fill out the
Speaker 2: proof of death statement for the eight hundred dollars, using
Speaker 2: the apartment as a mailing address. The claim was filed
Speaker 2: and the check was issued on March first to Joseph Mallory.
Speaker 2: It arrived in the mail soon after, and Red took
Speaker 2: it straight to Marino's place. Frank received the news shortly
Speaker 2: after and came right over in his car to take
Speaker 2: the men.
Speaker 3: To cash the check.
Speaker 2: Leaving the Metropolitan offices with a lot of bills, Red
Speaker 2: held them tightly before handing them over to Tony Marino.
Speaker 2: Once he reached the car, Frank quickly drove off while
Speaker 2: Tony counted the money. Red got sixty five dollars. Tough,
Speaker 2: Tony got sixty five dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Daniel Kreuzberg walked away with fifty bucks and many of
Speaker 2: the participants would have to wait for their cuts until
Speaker 2: the Prudential policies were collected.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, this is ridiculous. It really is.
Speaker 2: The same day they'd filed the claims at Metropolitan, they'd
Speaker 2: gone to Prudential. The agent asked Frank what a good
Speaker 2: time for him would be to come view the body
Speaker 2: to verify Frank's claim. When Frank disclosed that the body
Speaker 2: had already been buried, the red flags at Prudential went up.
Speaker 2: Oh I bet yeah right. In March nineteen thirty three,
Speaker 2: Adolph Coldweight was assigned to invest gate the claims on
Speaker 2: Nicholas Mallory's policies, starting off, he visited the house claimed
Speaker 2: to be the residence of the policyholder that was actually
Speaker 2: Frank's real address. Right asking around the neighborhood, no one
Speaker 2: said they had heard of Nicholas Mallory. Going backwards, he
Speaker 2: decided to begin at the address mister Mallory had died at.
Speaker 2: There he was able to get some information from the landlady.
Speaker 2: She shared stories of the men who came to rent
Speaker 2: the room and the man whom they brought back with them.
Speaker 2: Frothing at the mouth, agent thanked Missus Murphy and went
Speaker 2: to see if anyone else knew anything. By the time
Speaker 2: the interviews were over, the agent had gotten many different
Speaker 2: stories from many different people in the few days he'd
Speaker 2: been working on the case, because they're all dipshelts.
Speaker 3: So yeah oh.
Speaker 2: On March, he decided to stop by Frank's burial service
Speaker 2: and interviewed the man who had insured the deceased. Okay,
Speaker 2: walking into the busin business, Frank shook the man's hand
Speaker 2: and invited him in. When Adolf introduced himself, the air
Speaker 2: just changed in like oh fuck. Frank was caught off
Speaker 2: guard and immediately ushered the visitor to his office, where
Speaker 2: Adolf got to work right away. During his interview or inquiry,
Speaker 2: Adolf asked several questions regarding Frank's relationship with the insured,
Speaker 2: and he wrote every answer down. He took really good notes.
Speaker 2: Adolf found it difficult to read Frank. He asked about
Speaker 2: Joseph Mellory. Frank said that the deceased's brother and he
Speaker 2: lived in the apartment building run by Missus Murphy. And
Speaker 2: this is where things start to fall apart because they
Speaker 2: just fucking lied about everything.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, they can't keep up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So you know, Adolf had met with Missus Murphy,
Speaker 2: the landlady, earlier in the peak, and he knew that
Speaker 2: Joseph Mellory wasn't living there. And here's Frank telling him he.
Speaker 3: Died he lives over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, sure, he was just using the apartment,
Speaker 2: I mean obviously his mailing address.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So with this information, Adolph informed Frank that he'd like
Speaker 2: to meet Joseph Mellory to get all the facts straight,
Speaker 2: just merely as a formality.
Speaker 3: Sure that I'll be out of your hair, you.
Speaker 2: Know, then just a little little meeting and then we'll
Speaker 2: be done.
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2: The meeting was set for March thirteenth, So now it's
Speaker 2: March thirteenth, and Joseph Mellory arrived at the Prudential office
Speaker 2: for the meeting with Frank in town. When asked why
Speaker 2: he felt the need to attend, Frank defended himself, saying
Speaker 2: he was there to help Joseph because the man wasn't
Speaker 2: well versed in business matters. Wow, yeah, okay, just helping
Speaker 2: my friend, helping my friend.
Speaker 3: My kind heart showing.
Speaker 2: Oh he wore it on a sleeve, Yes he did.
Speaker 2: He assured the Prudential employees that his only in the
Speaker 2: policies was ensuring the funeral home got paid. During the questioning,
Speaker 2: Red did his best to create a story that the
Speaker 2: insurance company would accept. He said, you know, his brother
Speaker 2: was a man addicted to alcohol. He's sleeping on the streets.
Speaker 2: He really wanted to help his brother out, so he
Speaker 2: got him a room to help get him his life straight.
Speaker 2: Sure it was enough to tug on the heartstrings, as
Speaker 2: you can imagine, but Adolph was unaffected. He pointed out
Speaker 2: the signatures on the policy and asked if they were
Speaker 2: sure those signatures belonged to Mellory, and Frank said yes,
Speaker 2: And as the meeting was ending, Adolf asked for an
Speaker 2: itemized copy of the undertaker's bill, hoping to get a
Speaker 2: signature to compare.
Speaker 3: To the policies nice.
Speaker 2: Thanking the two men for their time, Adolf told him
Speaker 2: that would be all you know. I'm done. In March
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, he received an undertaker's bill from Frank as requested.
Speaker 2: The entire bill was typed and Frank's name at the bottom.
Speaker 3: Oh my, Frank, it was right.
Speaker 2: Frank's not stupid exactly, although they are all stupid.
Speaker 4: I mean they are stupid, yes, Frank, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4: Good way to go, Frank on the typing.
Speaker 3: Well, good job.
Speaker 2: Late on Sunday, March nineteenth, tough Tony and Joe Maglioni
Speaker 2: sat at a table in the speakeasy arguing over the
Speaker 2: split of the insurance money. Joe got up to use
Speaker 2: the bathroom and minutes later opened a flimsy partition with
Speaker 2: a gun drawn, aimed right at tough Tony. He walked
Speaker 2: right up to his business partner and fired one shot.
Speaker 2: Tough Tony staggered, and he shot again, and tough Tony
Speaker 2: fell to the floor. When Joe went to grab the
Speaker 2: pistol that tough Tony had on his body. Tough ton
Speaker 2: he jumped up and ran out the door, and Joe
Speaker 2: was chasing him down the street with his gun drawn,
Speaker 2: and he fired four more shots. Two of them hit
Speaker 2: tough Tony, and one of those got him right in
Speaker 2: the heart.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The authorities started interviewing witnesses, and they happened upon Red,
Speaker 2: who'd been serving drinks that night at Marinos. While he
Speaker 2: couldn't tell them much about what had happened, he claimed
Speaker 2: the argument that men were having was mostly an Italian.
Speaker 2: So the officers took Red into the station as a
Speaker 2: material witness of the killings. So the house of cards
Speaker 2: is starting.
Speaker 3: To crumble, Yes, it is crumbling, m h.
Speaker 2: Joe would go on to tell the police that tough
Speaker 2: Tony had challenged his manhood, calling him yellow and afraid.
Speaker 2: He said tough Tony had frequented a few speakeasies and
Speaker 2: told some mutual ass associates that Joe needed a backbone.
Speaker 2: These rumors swirled and they reached Joe. When he confronted
Speaker 2: tough Tony at Marino's place. Things got heated, you know,
Speaker 2: quite quickly. Things escalated. So regardless of what Red witnessed.
Speaker 2: Joe would insist that he shot tough Tony in self defense.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Red slept in a cell for material witnesses. They kept
Speaker 2: him like at the police station. Yeah, yeah, overnight. He
Speaker 2: slept there for days.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: After spending a childhood in institutions and foster homes, he
Speaker 2: really didn't enjoy being locked up. Though he couldn't be
Speaker 2: angry to have a bed and three square meals a day.
Speaker 2: He just didn't want to be there, right, so he
Speaker 2: kept to himself. He'd get food in the cafeteria and
Speaker 2: bring it back to his cell. He refused to talk
Speaker 2: to any other people there. And Tony had gotten a
Speaker 2: paper the following day which detailed the shooting and listed
Speaker 2: Red as a witness who would end up taking the
Speaker 2: stand for the police.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to make matters worse, Adolf, the insurance investigator
Speaker 2: was still sniffing around. So Adolf was having a difficult
Speaker 2: time finding Joseph Mellory to question him, obviously, because the
Speaker 2: man doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: Like who was that movie with Red and Andy? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he only exists on paper. He only exists on paper.
Speaker 2: Right when he brought it up to an agent at Prudential.
Speaker 2: The agent told Adolf that the man he was looking
Speaker 2: for worked as a bartender at Marino's Speakeasy in late March.
Speaker 2: Adolf walked into the bar. Marino was wiping down the countertops,
Speaker 2: and except for these two men, the establishment was empty.
Speaker 2: The few customers were scared off after tough Tony's murder,
Speaker 2: so you know, because it happened, I mean yeah. Adolf
Speaker 2: asked for Joseph Mellory, and Tony said he'd left for
Speaker 2: Philadelphia for an extended vacation, but he would put them
Speaker 2: in touch when Joseph returned from his trip. When Adolf
Speaker 2: later approached Frank with the same question, Frank relayed the
Speaker 2: same details as Tony to a disconcerting extent. It was
Speaker 2: almost like it was exact. It's very scripted. However, if
Speaker 2: Adolph asked anyone else about the Mellory brothers, no one
Speaker 2: had even heard of them.
Speaker 3: Oh these two guys.
Speaker 2: Y, yeah, just Tony and Frank to cause an even
Speaker 2: bigger puzzle. When Adolph looked at Frank's bill for the
Speaker 2: Nicholas Mellory funeral, it made little sense that a man
Speaker 2: so few people knew would have such an extravagant very right.
Speaker 2: On April third, nineteen thirty three, Joe Maglioni was indicted
Speaker 2: by grand jury for the murder of Anthony tough Tony Bestoni.
Speaker 2: He was arraigned four days later and he pled not guilty.
Speaker 2: Soon after the indictment, Harry Hershey Green was arrested for
Speaker 2: carrying a concealed handgun. He was thrown into Bronx County
Speaker 2: Jail with Joe and Red. Later on, Daniel Kriesberg would
Speaker 2: be taken in after being arrested relating to the pants
Speaker 2: bandit robberies. Remember he told you that he was with
Speaker 2: that other woman. They were taking their pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, I know.
Speaker 2: When things started to unravel, Tony Marino decided to hire
Speaker 2: one of his cousins to look after his bar for
Speaker 2: a dollar a day, incorrectly thinking that physical space from
Speaker 2: the bar would translate to space between him and the
Speaker 2: insurance investigation. Frank took to perfecting a story in case
Speaker 2: the men in jail developed loose lips. Sure, however, Mike
Speaker 2: Mallory's story was making the rounds in the boroughs of
Speaker 2: New York, A story about a man who couldn't be killed,
Speaker 2: not by drink not by poison, not by being hit
Speaker 2: by a car. Yeah, I was right, guy, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: The story also included greedy villains who would continue to
Speaker 2: try to kill him until they succeeded. The story on
Speaker 2: the streets would reach a police patrolman as he walked
Speaker 2: the beat, and it would eventually make The story eventually
Speaker 2: made its way up to the inspector of the homicide squad,
Speaker 2: who then brought it to the attention of the Bronx
Speaker 2: County District Attorney, Samuel J. Foley, who immediately opened an investigation.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: John McNally had been brought into the murder Trust early
Speaker 2: on as part of the contingency plan. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you remember me telling you about him, but he
Speaker 2: was hired in case like they needed to kill somebody. Okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah, if Michael had become a problem, John McNally
Speaker 2: and his partner Ed Smith would bump him off. Is
Speaker 2: basically you know, remember it was like a safety net.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In April nineteen thirty three, John McNally had been arrested
Speaker 2: for carrying a concealed weapon and, realizing his history of
Speaker 2: criminal activity was putting him up for a long stand prison,
Speaker 2: he was looking for a way to secure himself a deal. Yep,
Speaker 2: there's no honor on thieves, is what.
Speaker 4: They I was just thinking that girl, there is no
Speaker 4: honor among thieves.
Speaker 2: The last week of April, District Attorney Foley and John
Speaker 2: McNally pulled up a chair and John told him of
Speaker 2: a meeting he'd had with an undertaker and a speakeasy
Speaker 2: owner where the murder of a homeless alcoholic.
Speaker 3: Man was discussed.
Speaker 2: Policemen were sent to bars to listen to the stories
Speaker 2: and directed to not mock the unbelievability of what was
Speaker 2: being said. They noted names Day and other sources that
Speaker 2: agreed with John McNally's version of events. So it was
Speaker 2: several of the suspects involved already behind bars for unrelated crimes.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as difficult as it could have been to
Speaker 2: put things together, and since these men were already behind bars,
Speaker 2: they didn't have a clue that their plot was being
Speaker 2: pulled wide open.
Speaker 4: Yes, for an angles there, yeah, mm hmm. Taking down
Speaker 4: that house the.
Speaker 2: Cards, Yeah, the house cards has fallen hard. Eventually, District
Speaker 2: Attorney Folly had put together where Nicholas Mallory was buried
Speaker 2: and worked to have the body exhumedo. Yeah. May eleventh,
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty three, the police entered Ferncliffe Cemetery with a
Speaker 2: court order to exume grave number twenty seventy, where Nicholas
Speaker 2: Mallory had been buried. The body was taken to Fordham
Speaker 2: Hospital for an autopsy round seven forty five. In the evening,
Speaker 2: a detective brought John McNally to the morgue. They asked
Speaker 2: him do you know the man on the table and
Speaker 2: John nodded. They asked him, is that the man you
Speaker 2: knew to be insured and buried under the name Nicholas Mallory?
Speaker 2: And John said that's him.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: They said did you know him under any other name?
Speaker 2: And John said I knew him by his real name.
Speaker 2: Oh well, what was that? And he said, Michael molloy.
Speaker 2: So now like, okay, the roof is blown off.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, yep, I can't even wait
Speaker 4: to see how this unpacks.
Speaker 3: Now it's gonnakeet getting faster.
Speaker 2: The dominoes are falling as they are. The autopsy began
Speaker 2: around nine pm that night. The doctor made notes as
Speaker 2: he examined the external parts of the body. He recorded
Speaker 2: when his first cuts into the victim are made, and
Speaker 2: he took blood samples, mixing them in a tube with
Speaker 2: sodium hydroxide. When mixed with sodium hydroxide, blood not containing
Speaker 2: carbon oxide would change color to greenish brown or black.
Speaker 2: If the blood does contain carbon monoxide and is mixed
Speaker 2: with that chemical, the mixture would stay red. So it
Speaker 2: was clear within seconds that the cause of death on the.
Speaker 3: Death certificate was false.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that man had not died of low bar pneumonia,
Speaker 2: but by asphyxiation by carbon monoxide.
Speaker 4: I had no idea that there was a test that,
Speaker 4: you know, not that I know a lot about embalming
Speaker 4: a body or anything like that, but I had no idea,
Speaker 4: you know, other than a drug panel. I know they
Speaker 4: can sense when arsenic or poisons have been used, but as.
Speaker 3: Far I didn't know there was an asphyxiation test. That's
Speaker 3: pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: It is interesting, and this just goes to show I
Speaker 2: don't think he was embalmed.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's still had blood that they extreme.
Speaker 4: I don't think Frank put any money into him except
Speaker 4: for that cheap cheap right, that's exactly terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also on May eleventh, the police knocked on Tony Marino's door.
Speaker 2: When they asked him if he had anything to say,
Speaker 2: he said no. The police asked Tony a few more questions,
Speaker 2: but Tony wasn't forthcoming, tired of being drug along. The
Speaker 2: officer asked him directly, where is Michael mLOY? Tony lied
Speaker 2: and told him the last time he'd seen Maloy was
Speaker 2: in the hospital back in January, when Michael had sought
Speaker 2: treatment for an open sore on his leg. He said
Speaker 2: he hadn't seen or heard from him since. So on
Speaker 2: the surface, Tony kept it together, but his insides were shaking,
Speaker 2: like all hell.
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet he's in his pants right now.
Speaker 4: You're always like living in like you know, I have
Speaker 4: PTSD and I can just imagine him just being on
Speaker 4: red alert, always a fight or flight that's taxing on
Speaker 4: the body. And didn't you say in the very beginning
Speaker 4: he has like several venereal diseases.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that's not good either. Yeah, one more
Speaker 3: thing that's dead on the body.
Speaker 2: Right. This was the first time that Michael Malloy's name
Speaker 2: had been brought up during questioning, so they asked him again,
Speaker 2: is this the truth? And Tony answered that it was.
Speaker 2: The policeman replied informing Tony that Michael was dead. Detectives
Speaker 2: were at Ferncliffe Cemetery digging him up as they spoke,
Speaker 2: and Tony stood his ground that he was telling the truth.
Speaker 2: They drove to District Attorney Foley's to let him know
Speaker 2: what had been said, and fully decided to have Red
Speaker 2: brought in for questions.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, here we go, Here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Around four to twenty that afternoon, Red made his way
Speaker 2: to the interrogation room. During Foley's questioning, he just spilled
Speaker 2: his guts, okay, substantiating John McNally's stories. He named names,
Speaker 2: and he disclosed that he'd been in the car when
Speaker 2: Michael was ran over. Oh my, and he also revealed
Speaker 2: that Joe and tough Tony had been arguing about the
Speaker 2: split of the assurance money when tough Toni was killed.
Speaker 2: He laid out the entire scheme for the DA, explaining
Speaker 2: that he was supposed to pretend to be Michael mlloy's brother,
Speaker 2: Joseph Mellery and that they had also attempted to kill
Speaker 2: another man in Michael Mallory's place, and that was one
Speaker 2: part of the plan that the police hadn't discovered yet.
Speaker 2: So just his lips are a flappen, right.
Speaker 4: He almost validates everything he's been saying when he drops
Speaker 4: new information, and he's been checking the boxes off.
Speaker 3: This is gravy.
Speaker 2: Around seven forty five, John McNally was brought into the
Speaker 2: morgue where he identified the body of Nicholas Mallory and
Speaker 2: he identified it as Michael Malloy for the detectives. That evening,
Speaker 2: both Tony Marino and Frank Pascual were picked up and
Speaker 2: brought in for questioning. The men were not as forthcoming
Speaker 2: obviously with information and as Red had been. The battle
Speaker 2: of wits taking place in the interrogation room was an
Speaker 2: olympic feat as they both tried to omit facts, they
Speaker 2: created stories, and they placed the blame on anyone else.
Speaker 2: But then, after numerous questions went by without any answers
Speaker 2: at all, Dea fully asked, are you afraid that answering
Speaker 2: these questions might incriminate you? And Tony Marino answered yes,
Speaker 2: I have no lawyer, And then he said do you
Speaker 2: need a lawyer to tell the truth? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, do you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Tony wasn't going to talk. After two hours of
Speaker 2: this verbal battle, Tony was excused to a holding cell.
Speaker 2: Daniel Kresburg was now brought in for interrogation, and, like Red,
Speaker 2: he would lay it all out for the police, attempting
Speaker 2: to play on their sympathies, telling them that the gang
Speaker 2: had threatened him. He told the whole story from the beginning,
Speaker 2: and even admitted he was there when Michael molloy was gassed.
Speaker 2: At the end of his story, he was taken back
Speaker 2: to his cell. Frank was different. He'd prepped for this
Speaker 2: for weeks.
Speaker 4: He's been in the death game, yes, for years, as
Speaker 4: an undertaker in that time. I'm not trying to give
Speaker 4: undertakers any kind of negative name. But also it's you know,
Speaker 4: consider the times, you know, how far are they and
Speaker 4: the checks and balances of.
Speaker 3: Right such a business.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: He had been strangely absent at the more violent of
Speaker 2: the attempts on Michael Mulloy's life. Many of the men
Speaker 2: in the group had noticed he wasn't taking part in
Speaker 2: certain activities, but in their eyes, he'd taken out the policies.
Speaker 2: He'd taken care of the funeral, so his hands were
Speaker 2: as dirty as theirs. Oh, absolutely, But Frank was also
Speaker 2: thoughtful and intelligent. He'd mentally gone over his story hundreds
Speaker 2: of times and realized that his triumph would lie in
Speaker 2: maintain painting that he'd never met Michael mlloy. He'd only
Speaker 2: ever known Nicholas Mallory.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: During the questioning, when asked if he'd known Michael mlloy,
Speaker 2: he denied it. Cushing DA Foley stated, he's the man
Speaker 2: you buried under the name Mellory. Frank countered, I know Mallory,
Speaker 2: but I don't know Mike molloy. Da A Folly asked
Speaker 2: about Mellory's brother. Frank came right back, saying that it
Speaker 2: was Red, the man who worked behind the Barrett Marinos.
Speaker 2: Da fully clarified that Red was Joe Murphy, and Frank
Speaker 2: feigned that he didn't know. Red. Wasn't just what I did.
Speaker 3: I Joe, what.
Speaker 4: You are?
Speaker 3: Reviser? I was that Chris Farley and David say what
Speaker 3: you do.
Speaker 2: Me boy?
Speaker 3: Tommy boy? Yes, what what'd you do? Big guyt Li.
Speaker 2: Goat?
Speaker 3: I love that movie me too.
Speaker 2: So da Foley said that it was Rad. His name
Speaker 2: is Joe Murphy, and Frank's like what he said, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that he was Joseph Mallory, saying that Red
Speaker 2: had met him at the apartment when he took the
Speaker 2: body away and had told him Nicholas Mallory was his brother.
Speaker 2: When asked if he'd like to make any confession, Frank stated,
Speaker 2: I have no confession to make. Da fully shared the
Speaker 2: facts he'd been given by John McNally read and Daniel Cresberg,
Speaker 2: while Frank continued to deny any involvement.
Speaker 3: And wow, he is Stannon, he is Dougannon. Yeah.
Speaker 2: After hours of questioning, Frank got tired and careless. He
Speaker 2: slipped in one single answer about Mellory visiting doctor Manzilla.
Speaker 2: Frank said, Mallory told me so. DA fully questioned, you
Speaker 2: mean Mike. Yes, he answered, quietly, knowing he'd been caught.
Speaker 2: As he floundered and flailed trying to recover, Da Foley
Speaker 2: decided to give him one last chance to allow Frank
Speaker 2: to give his narrative, his side of the story. Once
Speaker 2: it was on record, Da Foley knew he could tear
Speaker 2: it apart piece by piece. Frank would only admit to
Speaker 2: obtaining the life insurance policies. He would never confess to
Speaker 2: being any part of.
Speaker 3: The murder ploy Yeah, the murder trust, of the murder.
Speaker 2: Trust After Frank finished crafting his tail, DA Foley pulled
Speaker 2: out the itemized bill that he had sent to Prudential,
Speaker 2: having obtained it from Adolf. He questioned why Frank would
Speaker 2: have sent in a bill to Prudential when he'd already
Speaker 2: been paid by Metropolitan. He also clarified the items in
Speaker 2: the bill that hadn't happened, the funeral procession, the embalming,
Speaker 2: the extravagant casket. The bill was completely false. Frank blamed
Speaker 2: everything on tough Tony Bestny and Tony Marino, saying they'd
Speaker 2: strong armed him.
Speaker 3: Oh bully, yes right.
Speaker 2: The following day, after da Foley received the results regarding
Speaker 2: the carabon monoxide test, his patience is.
Speaker 3: Like done then, yes, this fuckery? Yeah right.
Speaker 2: He called Tony Marino in. After making no further gains
Speaker 2: during this round of interrogation, he brought Red up to
Speaker 2: the room and let them bicker with each other in
Speaker 2: front of him, preferring this method to exhausting himself trying
Speaker 2: to pull information.
Speaker 3: Yes, trying to ask the right question.
Speaker 2: And yeah yeah. When Red was taken back to a cell,
Speaker 2: Tony made himself comfortable. He told the closest thing resembling
Speaker 2: the truth that he could without actually telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Around two in the morning, Tony asked for a break.
Speaker 2: May twelfth, nineteen thirty three, da Foley finally announced the
Speaker 2: scheme to the media. It was called quote, one of
Speaker 2: the most diabolic plots for profit in the annals of
Speaker 2: the City end quote. The Home News, which was a newspaper,
Speaker 2: released an article detailing the entire sordid tale. The investigation
Speaker 2: following the release of the story led to the search
Speaker 2: for Joseph Murray, whom the Murder Trust had attempted to kill.
Speaker 2: Remember he was that other guy they hit. He would
Speaker 2: eventually be tracked down in time to testify as a
Speaker 2: material witness during the trial. There were also questions coming
Speaker 2: to the surface regarding the suspicious death of Mabel Carlson,
Speaker 2: remembers shot too, whose murder would not make it to trial.
Speaker 2: Prosecuting the case himself, the indictments were rushed read. Tony Marino,
Speaker 2: Frank Pascua, Daniel Cresburg, Joe Maglioni, and Hershey Green were
Speaker 2: arraigned and held without bail. Doctor Manzela was arrested but
Speaker 2: released on ten thousand dollars bail.
Speaker 3: Ten was like a million dollars like three.
Speaker 2: It was a million, had to be close to a million.
Speaker 2: Right On Tuesday, May sixteenth, a grand jury convene. The
Speaker 2: DA had more than twenty witnesses. The testimony was so
Speaker 2: damaging that there was no question that they were going.
Speaker 3: To receive the electric chair. Wow.
Speaker 2: The witnesses would recount every disaster of the murder attempts,
Speaker 2: every painful detail of their failures in an attempt to
Speaker 2: satisfy their greed. The indictments were returned the same day,
Speaker 2: shortly after the final witness testified murder in the first
Speaker 2: degree for all but doctor Manzella, who was indicted on
Speaker 2: accessory after the fact and failing to notify the medical
Speaker 2: examiner and police of Michael Malloy's death right while awaiting trial.
Speaker 2: Hershey Green, who had seen very little value in human
Speaker 2: life up to that point, all of a sudden saw
Speaker 2: the value in his own. Oh yeah, oh shit, we're
Speaker 2: going to save my own ass, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did he turned to the Lord.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They didn't get religion.
Speaker 2: He didn't get religion, but he turned as a state's witness.
Speaker 3: As witness, Okay, as.
Speaker 2: Did Joe Maglioni. After running into Tony at the barbershop
Speaker 2: in jail and exchanging some harsh words. October third, nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty three, the jury was seated for the trial. The
Speaker 2: prosecution began laying out their case on October fourth, and
Speaker 2: the defense opened their side on Friday, the thirteenth of
Speaker 2: October an Omo, with closing arguments beginning first thing on
Speaker 2: October eighteenth. At seven fifteen that night, the jury was
Speaker 2: handed the case. At four fifteen a m. The morning
Speaker 2: of October nineteenth, they had finally reached a verdict, so
Speaker 2: it took them about seven hours. Each man was found
Speaker 2: guilty and sentenced to the electric chair. Wow Da Foley
Speaker 2: stated to the press, I think it was a proper
Speaker 2: verdict for a most cruel murder which was inspired by
Speaker 2: nothing more than sordid greed.
Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree, I mean what for sure?
Speaker 2: Early Saturday, October twenty first, the men were transferred to
Speaker 2: Sing Sing prison. When they were relieved of their possessions,
Speaker 2: it was found the four men had sixteen dollars and
Speaker 2: five cents between them. Their appeals dragged on and on,
Speaker 2: and on three occasions the men escaped the electric chair
Speaker 2: with mere hours to spare. Wow I know eventually, though
Speaker 2: their luck ran out and the Home News, which was
Speaker 2: a newspaper, reported, quote, four members of the Murder Trust,
Speaker 2: who were convicted of one of the most brutal murders
Speaker 2: in the history of the Bronx, are scheduled to die
Speaker 2: in the electric chairs sometime after eleven o'clock tonight end. Quote.
Speaker 2: It was reported by the Daily Mirror that as the
Speaker 2: clock ticked closer to their end, the men carried themselves
Speaker 2: with a decreasing dignity.
Speaker 3: I bet, yeah, I bet, and their ship, Tanya.
Speaker 4: I mean honestly, okay, all the four are going at
Speaker 4: the same time.
Speaker 3: They don't got four chairs.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure, right, I'm only basing my knowledge on
Speaker 4: the Green Mile. You are saying that you're listening to
Speaker 4: your cohorts and the light flickering. I go first, I'm
Speaker 4: not listening to nobody. I would go, I'm going to
Speaker 4: coward my whole life. Coward me out first, mine as well,
Speaker 4: finish off.
Speaker 3: You know, Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to be last that warmed up girl.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm feeling sorry for them at all, not
Speaker 4: fucking for one second. But I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 4: how you just put yourself what would I do. What
Speaker 4: was you know, what am I deciding?
Speaker 3: Short straw? I do not care.
Speaker 2: I know, I wonder how they decided, Like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they have the zodiac signs. Who's what's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it was doctor Amos Baker's job to assess
Speaker 2: the mental state of each prisoner and determine who would
Speaker 2: be put to death first.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh boy.
Speaker 2: It was protocol for the weakest man to be the
Speaker 2: leadoff in those situations, and in this group, it was
Speaker 2: determined to be Frank, who was an emotional wreck.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say what he pissed himself?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he did all this bullshit. Got a
Speaker 2: fucking doctor did all this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was the biggest fugaisey out of them,
Speaker 4: all the ones. Like we had it shit together now
Speaker 4: as a puddle of goo. Right to accountability, right.
Speaker 2: I know? Between eleven oh one and eleven eighteen on
Speaker 2: June seventh, nineteen thirty four, the conspirators were led to
Speaker 2: the chair. As one body was wheeled out, the next
Speaker 2: man was brought in to take his place.
Speaker 4: Crazy, I know today, I'm sorry, I'm just like blown away.
Speaker 4: Fin what time in Alabama? Can't get the right injection medicine.
Speaker 4: M hm, we've not really made any good progress in
Speaker 4: this kind.
Speaker 2: Of no, And the electric chair was brutal. And back
Speaker 2: in the thirties, when you committed a crime like this,
Speaker 2: they fucking fried your ass right away. I mean there
Speaker 2: was no like twenty years yeah, twenty years like you
Speaker 2: committee crime twenty years ago and you finally, you know,
Speaker 2: are getting your death sentence carried out. But uugh, yeah, brutal.
Speaker 2: I did a story once. I can't remember which one
Speaker 2: it was called, but I did a story about how
Speaker 2: someone was put to death and it was totally fucked
Speaker 2: up by the electric chair, like it was a nightmare.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: Well, the Green Mile gives a good example of just
Speaker 4: one way it can be horribly cruel and right right,
Speaker 4: I can just pivot from there.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Warden Laws of Sing Sing, turned to face
Speaker 2: the walls during the process in his silent protest of
Speaker 2: capital punishment. I guess the Warden was not a fan, okay.
Speaker 2: Robert Campbell would report the execution to be the state's
Speaker 2: toast to Mike the Durable.
Speaker 4: No kidding, right, yeah, Oh well you can't stand a
Speaker 4: little electricity, I can handle paint dinner, Yeah, right, motherfuckers right.
Speaker 2: During their later trials, Joe Maglioni was sentenced to five
Speaker 2: years and sing sing for manslaughter and Harry Hershey Green
Speaker 2: received five to ton for felonious assault. Okay, so they
Speaker 2: did not see the death penalty. They did not meet
Speaker 2: mister Sparky.
Speaker 3: Thank you God.
Speaker 4: Well, oh, I mean and not thank God because they
Speaker 4: you know, he's still killed. Tof Tony, you're still in
Speaker 4: the fairies, You're in terrible. There's some shitty energy when
Speaker 4: you're fucking taking advantage of somebody and then you're around
Speaker 4: all that necrotic energy and it's just terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is my part two of the Unthinkable.
Speaker 2: Michael Malloy's Yeah, I can't believe how these got.
Speaker 4: You know, you're standing someone up in a teeth formation
Speaker 4: and rubbing of the car, the holes in the mouth.
Speaker 3: I know, what is the what?
Speaker 4: How don't I just can't believe the the cowardice, you know,
Speaker 4: they think they're so close terrible God bless Mike Malloy,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And it's a good Irish. Yeah, you know, I'm so
Speaker 3: partial to the Irish, to.
Speaker 2: The Irish, the Irish can't believe the the the wood alcohol.
Speaker 2: What it was. It was, Yeah, like, I can't believe
Speaker 2: that didn't kill me. He was drinking so much of it.
Speaker 4: To where he could just pass out and now, oh,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's your body is only going to take
Speaker 4: so much. And it's a miracle for him. He truly
Speaker 4: did deserve his name. Tough Tony, eat a dick, make
Speaker 4: room for Mike. Mike exactly off my ass.
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