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<v Speaker 1>This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm Teleah and we are

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<v Speaker 2>Crimes and Consequences, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Shannon, Hey Tanya, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good, not bad? How about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Same same? I'm loving this weather, change me too, write.

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<v Speaker 2>Summer.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's the best. It's nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have part two of the Michael Malloy story

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<v Speaker 2>to tell.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're running in your seat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh. I've been thinking about him, about that alcohol and

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<v Speaker 4>the wood grain and just the constant these guys just

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<v Speaker 4>not giving up in his intestinal true intestinal fortitude of

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<v Speaker 4>this man.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's amazing. Yes, Before I get into it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would just like to remind everyone to hit subscribe or

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<v Speaker 2>follow on whatever app you're listening to. And part two,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna remind everyone where we left off in case

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's been a week since you've listened, or

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<v Speaker 2>it could be like a year since you've listened to it,

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<v Speaker 2>because we could you. So, I introduced Joseph Patrick Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>He was thirty one years old. He was looking for

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<v Speaker 2>work at the time. He stumbled his way into Marino's Bar,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kind of looked like Michael molloy. So what

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<v Speaker 2>the Murder Trust did was they put Nicholas Mellory's ID

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<v Speaker 2>in his pocket and they were getting ready to do

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<v Speaker 2>something with him. Oh remember they had that plan where

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to hold Michael up and then the

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<v Speaker 2>car was going to run at him and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to let go of him, right, Yes, So they did

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<v Speaker 2>that with Joseph Murray and they get back in their car,

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<v Speaker 2>like the car hits Joseph Murray, they all pile back

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<v Speaker 2>into probably Hershey's cab and whatever. So now they're convinced

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<v Speaker 2>that Joseph Murray is dead. But they found themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>the same situation that they were in with Michael malloy

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<v Speaker 2>because the last place they had left him, the last

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<v Speaker 2>time they had seen him, they left him in the street, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they left him with Nicholas Mellory's ID in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know they're they're wondering, like, Okay, did Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>Murray die? Is Michael dead? Hers She turned in the

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<v Speaker 2>cab that night to his employer after having driven ten

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<v Speaker 2>hours and only making a dollar forty little suspicion, well,

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<v Speaker 2>a little suspicious, So he walks into the office to

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<v Speaker 2>turn in the key and he found a message from

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<v Speaker 2>his boss that Detective Lloyd had stopped by to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>some things with him. So, going to Marino's speakeasy that night,

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<v Speaker 2>Hershey brought the note with him that his boss had

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<v Speaker 2>left him about this connective wanting to talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>He brings it and he hands it over to tough

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Maglioni. So when hersh went to the police station

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<v Speaker 2>to meet with Detective Lloyd, tough Tony waited in the car,

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<v Speaker 2>and when Hershey came out, he relayed that a witness

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<v Speaker 2>had reported seeing his cab run over a pedestrian, which

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<v Speaker 2>happened to be Joseph Murray right now. So after they

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him, they let her she go and Hershey

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<v Speaker 2>and tough Tony drove to Tony Marino's house wake him

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<v Speaker 2>up and tell him about this news that guess what

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Murray survived. No, oh, my gosh, yes, they're fucking

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<v Speaker 2>it up all over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Our Keystone cops about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not able to collect any insurance money on

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<v Speaker 2>his death.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll tell you about another guy. So his name

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<v Speaker 2>is Valen Jenkins. He worked nights at a feed company,

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<v Speaker 2>stacking bags of feed and processing orders. One night, while

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<v Speaker 2>he's performing his mundane tasks, he sees two men pulling

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<v Speaker 2>a third guy out of a cab and holding him up,

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<v Speaker 2>and this car is running at him. Okay, so he

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<v Speaker 2>he he's the witness who sees her driving his cab

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<v Speaker 2>into Joseph Murray. Right, So he took note of the

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<v Speaker 2>license plate before the cab screeched away, and he called

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<v Speaker 2>emergency services and he turned in the license plate number

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<v Speaker 2>to the cops. Joseph Murray was ended up remaining in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital with his injuries for forty five days.

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<v Speaker 3>He was sad. Yeah, I bet run over by a

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<v Speaker 3>car hit. Yes, I bet you. He backed over him.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not going to be pretty right.

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<v Speaker 2>The hospital staff found Nicholas Mallory, the Nicholas Mellory id

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<v Speaker 2>on Joseph Murray, and the hospital staff turned it over

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<v Speaker 3>Good So, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Red began calling hospitals and morgues to find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whereabouts of Joseph Mallory, there was no patient or

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<v Speaker 2>body or anything as society. So Frank Pascual remember him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was becoming more and more irritated with the incompetencies

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<v Speaker 2>that were.

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<v Speaker 4>Surrounding incompetence, that's a good awesome word for this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, surrounding this murder plan. Brother, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>really he was anxious. He just really wanted to have

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<v Speaker 2>it done. So he reached out to a man named

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Frank Manzilla, and he was a man that Frank

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<v Speaker 2>had often used to sign death certificates in his funeral business.

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<v Speaker 2>So he quietly discloses the plot that they had come

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<v Speaker 2>up with to murder Michael Malloy. And he discloses this

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<v Speaker 2>to doctor Manzella, and he says, I'll give you one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks if you sign the death certificate

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<v Speaker 2>of any individual who ends up dead as long as

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<v Speaker 2>the name Nicholas Mallory is on the death certificate.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So doctor Manzila, because everybody's hurting for a box, he says, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do this, I'll do it. And now Frank Pascua

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<v Speaker 2>he's working on a new murder scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The new scheme was that Tony Marino, the owner of

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<v Speaker 2>the speakeasy. He was going to look for a room

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<v Speaker 2>to rent that had a gas jet installed in the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>So what they were going to do is they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring their victim into the room. They were

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<v Speaker 2>going to attach a hose to the gas and then

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<v Speaker 2>have that person breathe in the gas and die from

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<v Speaker 2>gas poisoning. And you know, once they were Frank was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call the doctor to write a death certificate and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, kaching, they'd have their Nicholas Mellory and

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<v Speaker 2>it would be done.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys are so fucking stupid. I mean, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>run a room to asphyxiate. I just keep like a

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<v Speaker 4>freaking mouse trap.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 4>No one can be direct a bunch of pussies, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, he's a lou. Everyone's probably a drunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy, it's elaborate. It's elaborate, right, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeps thinking so highly of yourself. I'm gonna make another plan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not gonna get caught.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yes, I'm gonna tell another person because Lou slips.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We're gonna let the person in in the secret. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's now like fifty people who know idiots.

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<v Speaker 3>YEA.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately for the guys for this murder. Trust they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait long before they focused on a new victim.

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<v Speaker 2>So two weeks after leaving Michael mlloy's body in the gutter,

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<v Speaker 2>the man the New York Evening Post would eventually call

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Iron. Mike Mallory shuffled in back into the bar,

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<v Speaker 2>and he asked Red to pour him a drink. So

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<v Speaker 2>Red instinctively reaches for this bottle of paint thinner, and

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<v Speaker 2>Michael malloy has showed up and he takes a swig.

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<v Speaker 2>Marino Tony sat next to Michael and playing the concerned friend.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, dude, where have you been? Right? So Michael

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<v Speaker 2>only remembered part of the story. He said he woke

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<v Speaker 2>up in the gutter screaming for help. He later was

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<v Speaker 2>found by a policeman while standing in the gutter yelling,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was covered in blood. An ambulance took him

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<v Speaker 2>to Fordham Hospital, where he was found to have a

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<v Speaker 2>fractured skull, a fractured shoulder, a concussion, and alcoholism apparently

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<v Speaker 2>was a diagnosis. So he'd been in the hospital for

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<v Speaker 2>only five days when Red and Daniel Kresburg went out

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<v Speaker 2>looking for an apartment for their kill room. They were

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<v Speaker 2>in a rush that now they had the victim again,

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<v Speaker 2>they have Michael. So they go out to find this

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<v Speaker 2>this room to rent. Tough Tony had given them one

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<v Speaker 2>of his counterfeit twenty dollars bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh isn't handy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In the room they decided to rent was at

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<v Speaker 2>an address of twelve ten Fulton Avenue. The landlady was

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<v Speaker 2>Dlia Murphy. She was home when they knocked on her door,

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<v Speaker 2>and Red introduced himself as Joseph Mellory and he asked

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<v Speaker 2>about the room to rent. In the fourth floor walk up,

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<v Speaker 2>they reached a room finding a bear space with nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but a bed, a small table, a chest of drawers,

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<v Speaker 2>a lamp and the gas pigot. So they said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the room we would like to rent, and

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<v Speaker 2>they paid missus Murphy thanked her, and they went on

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<v Speaker 2>their way back to the speakeasy to report what they'd done.

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<v Speaker 2>So to certain stories recounting the members involvement, tough Tony

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<v Speaker 2>devised a plan to get Michael Mallory in the room

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<v Speaker 2>and get him gassed. By the time the arrests took place,

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<v Speaker 2>tough Tony had been killed, so he was unable to

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<v Speaker 2>defend himself. But this is the story that was told, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So On February twenty second, nineteen thirty three, Red was

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<v Speaker 2>behind the counter at the speakeasy, Tony Marino sat in

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<v Speaker 2>a corner, tough Tony sat at a table, and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory had taken his place at the bar. Red gave

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Mallory the whiskey bottle. Daniel Kresburg showed up to

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<v Speaker 2>see Red and tough Tony pouring Michael mlloy drinks. Tough

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<v Speaker 2>Tony took it upon himself to speed things up, and

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<v Speaker 2>he challenged Michael mlloy to a drinking contest. They replaced

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<v Speaker 2>the whiskey with the wood alcohol, and Red took his

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<v Speaker 2>place pouring drinks for Michael mlloy and tough Tony, draining

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<v Speaker 2>their glasses shot after shot. It took about twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and nearly two courts of pink dinner before Michael molloy

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<v Speaker 2>drooped on the stool and sunk to the floor. Once

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<v Speaker 2>he was unconscious, Tony Marino told Red to carry Michael

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<v Speaker 2>malloy to the apartment. He was given a small bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of wood alcohol as he walked out of the speakeasy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he tucked it into his pocket. Around nine point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty that evening, Joseph Mallory Red reached his landlady's door

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<v Speaker 2>with his brother Nicholas in tow and missus Murphy. Delia

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<v Speaker 2>later told investigators that Nicholas was frothing at the mouth

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<v Speaker 2>as her tenant carried him up to his apartment and

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<v Speaker 2>put him to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, yeah, it was terrible. I just feel so

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<v Speaker 3>bad for this guy. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Torture, absolutely, m So it wasn't long after he laid

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<v Speaker 2>down that Michael Mallory started groaning, a sign that consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>was near. Red pulled the bottle out of his pocket

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<v Speaker 2>and he left it on the table for Michael before

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<v Speaker 2>heading back to the speakeasy. Once he got there, Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Marino told Daniel Kresburg, who was sitting playing peanuckle with

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<v Speaker 2>tough Tony, that he needed to go to the apartment

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<v Speaker 2>with Red and make sure he's gone, meaning Michael. So

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<v Speaker 2>Red followed him out the door and the men walked

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<v Speaker 2>back to the apartment together. They went up and closed

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<v Speaker 2>and locked the door behind them. Once they got in

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<v Speaker 2>the room, Daniel Kresburg brought a pistol with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>he aimed it at Michael with one hand while the

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<v Speaker 2>other reached into his jacket pocket and took out a

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<v Speaker 2>length of rubber pipe, because they're going to asphyxiate him now.

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<v Speaker 2>around Michael's face to hold any excess gas that might

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<v Speaker 2>and let the gas flow into Michael's lungs. It took

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<v Speaker 2>not even five minutes. Four finally stopped breathing, and Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure Michael was finally dead, because he's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, to make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel declared him dead shortly after, and then he put

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Marino then ordered Red head back up to the

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<v Speaker 2>apartment and sleep with the corpse to night. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>the landlady wouldn't know what happened until the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Additionally, after as many times as they thought they'd been successful,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that didn't happen very often, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>Michael's death, Frank Pesqua went about arranging the plan for

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<v Speaker 2>the doctor and other witnesses to make it seem more

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate for the landlady. Around eight o'clock the following morning,

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Mellory said good morning to missus Murphy, after which

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<v Speaker 2>he inquired about how his brother was doing. He told her,

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<v Speaker 2>he returned to the apartment, Frank came with him. So

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<v Speaker 2>Frank introduces himself to Missus Murphy, the landlady. He introduced

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<v Speaker 2>himself is the undertaker, and he informed her that there

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<v Speaker 2>took the mortician up to the fourth floor apartment. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like in between, like did she find

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<v Speaker 2>out he was dead, because as fas as he knew,

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<v Speaker 2>he was just sick. But I don't know, But this

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<v Speaker 2>is what happened. Around nine o'clock, Doctor Manziella knocked at

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<v Speaker 2>Missus Murphy's door, asking where the patient was, and she

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Malloy's room right The doctor briefly looked over the

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<v Speaker 2>patient and declared him dead because of death would be

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<v Speaker 2>low bar pneumonia. They were not going to be collecting

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<v Speaker 2>on the double indemnity the accident clause. Oh, and he

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<v Speaker 2>told Frank to swing by his office later that morning

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<v Speaker 2>for the death certificate. Frank covered the body with a

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<v Speaker 2>sheet and told Red that he was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the health department and to request body removal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Manzela prepared the death certificate for Frank to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up around noon. When he stepped by doctor Manzella's office,

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<v Speaker 2>he looked it over and noted the cause of death

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<v Speaker 2>for Nicholas Mellory before heading to the apartment to await

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<v Speaker 2>Michael mlloy's removal and transport to the mortuary. So when

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<v Speaker 2>a body normally would arrive at Frank Pasqua's funeral parlor,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be embalmed and prepped for burial. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>would be washed and dressed in nice clothing. Someone would

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<v Speaker 2>come and comb the hair and apply makeup, and someone

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<v Speaker 2>murder Trust victim. None of that ended up happening. No

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<v Speaker 2>family member was there to view the body or select

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<v Speaker 2>a casket, and no one to wash him up, but

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<v Speaker 2>Frank would still be charging for it. He rolled the

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<v Speaker 2>cheapest wooden box over next to the slab that Michael's

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<v Speaker 2>body was resting on, and he rolled Michael into it

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<v Speaker 2>before closing the lid. The bill Frank sent to the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance company was nothing less than a pure fiction. It

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<v Speaker 2>included a funeral procession, flower arrangements, and a suit. Frank

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at making over three hundred and forty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on my funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh right wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The next morning, February twenty fourth, two days after Michael

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<v Speaker 2>was murdered, Frank Pascual went to the Department of Health

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<v Speaker 2>and filed the death certificate On this day too. Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Malloy was laid to rest in the Saint Francis section

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<v Speaker 2>of the cemetery, which was set aside for charity graves.

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<v Speaker 2>The headstone was small and said nothing but Nicholas Mallory.

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<v Speaker 2>The very next day, Frank and Red set out to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve their payday. Now they got to file this with

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<v Speaker 2>the insurance company, right, So, visiting the offices of Metropolitan Life,

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<v Speaker 2>Frank helped Joseph Mallory read Nicholas's brother, fill out the

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<v Speaker 2>proof of death statement for the eight hundred dollars, using

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment as a mailing address. The claim was filed

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<v Speaker 2>and the check was issued on March first to Joseph Mallory.

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<v Speaker 2>It arrived in the mail soon after, and Red took

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<v Speaker 2>it straight to Marino's place. Frank received the news shortly

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<v Speaker 2>after and came right over in his car to take

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<v Speaker 2>the men.

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<v Speaker 3>To cash the check.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving the Metropolitan offices with a lot of bills, Red

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<v Speaker 2>held them tightly before handing them over to Tony Marino.

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<v Speaker 2>Once he reached the car, Frank quickly drove off while

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<v Speaker 2>Tony counted the money. Red got sixty five dollars. Tough,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony got sixty five dollars. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Kreuzberg walked away with fifty bucks and many of

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<v Speaker 2>the participants would have to wait for their cuts until

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<v Speaker 2>the Prudential policies were collected.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, this is ridiculous. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>The same day they'd filed the claims at Metropolitan, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>gone to Prudential. The agent asked Frank what a good

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<v Speaker 2>time for him would be to come view the body

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<v Speaker 2>to verify Frank's claim. When Frank disclosed that the body

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<v Speaker 2>had already been buried, the red flags at Prudential went up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet yeah right. In March nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Adolph Coldweight was assigned to invest gate the claims on

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<v Speaker 2>Nicholas Mallory's policies, starting off, he visited the house claimed

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<v Speaker 2>to be the residence of the policyholder that was actually

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<v Speaker 2>Frank's real address. Right asking around the neighborhood, no one

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<v Speaker 2>said they had heard of Nicholas Mallory. Going backwards, he

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<v Speaker 2>decided to begin at the address mister Mallory had died at.

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<v Speaker 2>There he was able to get some information from the landlady.

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<v Speaker 2>She shared stories of the men who came to rent

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<v Speaker 2>the room and the man whom they brought back with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Frothing at the mouth, agent thanked Missus Murphy and went

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<v Speaker 2>to see if anyone else knew anything. By the time

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<v Speaker 2>the interviews were over, the agent had gotten many different

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<v Speaker 2>stories from many different people in the few days he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been working on the case, because they're all dipshelts.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah oh.

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<v Speaker 2>On March, he decided to stop by Frank's burial service

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<v Speaker 2>and interviewed the man who had insured the deceased. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>walking into the busin business, Frank shook the man's hand

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<v Speaker 2>and invited him in. When Adolf introduced himself, the air

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<v Speaker 2>just changed in like oh fuck. Frank was caught off

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<v Speaker 2>guard and immediately ushered the visitor to his office, where

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<v Speaker 2>Adolf got to work right away. During his interview or inquiry,

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<v Speaker 2>Adolf asked several questions regarding Frank's relationship with the insured,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wrote every answer down. He took really good notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Adolf found it difficult to read Frank. He asked about

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Mellory. Frank said that the deceased's brother and he

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<v Speaker 2>lived in the apartment building run by Missus Murphy. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is where things start to fall apart because they

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking lied about everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, they can't keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So you know, Adolf had met with Missus Murphy,

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<v Speaker 2>the landlady, earlier in the peak, and he knew that

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Mellory wasn't living there. And here's Frank telling him he.

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<v Speaker 3>Died he lives over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, sure, he was just using the apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously his mailing address.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So with this information, Adolph informed Frank that he'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to meet Joseph Mellory to get all the facts straight,

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<v Speaker 2>just merely as a formality.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure that I'll be out of your hair, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, then just a little little meeting and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be done.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>The meeting was set for March thirteenth, So now it's

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<v Speaker 2>March thirteenth, and Joseph Mellory arrived at the Prudential office

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<v Speaker 2>for the meeting with Frank in town. When asked why

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<v Speaker 2>he felt the need to attend, Frank defended himself, saying

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<v Speaker 2>he was there to help Joseph because the man wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>well versed in business matters. Wow, yeah, okay, just helping

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<v Speaker 3>My kind heart showing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he wore it on a sleeve, Yes he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He assured the Prudential employees that his only in the

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<v Speaker 2>policies was ensuring the funeral home got paid. During the questioning,

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<v Speaker 2>Red did his best to create a story that the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance company would accept. He said, you know, his brother

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<v Speaker 2>was a man addicted to alcohol. He's sleeping on the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>He really wanted to help his brother out, so he

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<v Speaker 2>got him a room to help get him his life straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it was enough to tug on the heartstrings, as

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<v Speaker 2>you can imagine, but Adolph was unaffected. He pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>the signatures on the policy and asked if they were

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<v Speaker 2>sure those signatures belonged to Mellory, and Frank said yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And as the meeting was ending, Adolf asked for an

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<v Speaker 2>itemized copy of the undertaker's bill, hoping to get a

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<v Speaker 2>signature to compare.

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<v Speaker 3>To the policies nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanking the two men for their time, Adolf told him

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<v Speaker 2>that would be all you know. I'm done. In March

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth, he received an undertaker's bill from Frank as requested.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire bill was typed and Frank's name at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, Frank, it was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank's not stupid exactly, although they are all stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they are stupid, yes, Frank, Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Good way to go, Frank on the typing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Late on Sunday, March nineteenth, tough Tony and Joe Maglioni

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<v Speaker 2>sat at a table in the speakeasy arguing over the

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<v Speaker 2>split of the insurance money. Joe got up to use

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom and minutes later opened a flimsy partition with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun drawn, aimed right at tough Tony. He walked

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<v Speaker 2>right up to his business partner and fired one shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough Tony staggered, and he shot again, and tough Tony

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<v Speaker 2>fell to the floor. When Joe went to grab the

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<v Speaker 2>pistol that tough Tony had on his body. Tough ton

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<v Speaker 2>he jumped up and ran out the door, and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>was chasing him down the street with his gun drawn,

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<v Speaker 2>and he fired four more shots. Two of them hit

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<v Speaker 2>tough Tony, and one of those got him right in

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<v Speaker 2>the heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The authorities started interviewing witnesses, and they happened upon Red,

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<v Speaker 2>who'd been serving drinks that night at Marinos. While he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell them much about what had happened, he claimed

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<v Speaker 2>the argument that men were having was mostly an Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>So the officers took Red into the station as a

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<v Speaker 2>material witness of the killings. So the house of cards

424
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<v Speaker 2>is starting.

425
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.359
<v Speaker 3>To crumble, Yes, it is crumbling, m h.

426
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Joe would go on to tell the police that tough

427
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Tony had challenged his manhood, calling him yellow and afraid.

428
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 2>He said tough Tony had frequented a few speakeasies and

429
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>told some mutual ass associates that Joe needed a backbone.

430
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:08.519
<v Speaker 2>These rumors swirled and they reached Joe. When he confronted

431
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.519
<v Speaker 2>tough Tony at Marino's place. Things got heated, you know,

432
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>quite quickly. Things escalated. So regardless of what Red witnessed.

433
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Joe would insist that he shot tough Tony in self defense.

434
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

435
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Red slept in a cell for material witnesses. They kept

436
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.799
<v Speaker 2>him like at the police station. Yeah, yeah, overnight. He

437
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:31.839
<v Speaker 2>slept there for days.

438
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

439
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>After spending a childhood in institutions and foster homes, he

440
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>really didn't enjoy being locked up. Though he couldn't be

441
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.119
<v Speaker 2>angry to have a bed and three square meals a day.

442
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>He just didn't want to be there, right, so he

443
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>kept to himself. He'd get food in the cafeteria and

444
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>bring it back to his cell. He refused to talk

445
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>to any other people there. And Tony had gotten a

446
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Speaker 2>paper the following day which detailed the shooting and listed

447
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Red as a witness who would end up taking the

448
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<v Speaker 2>stand for the police.

449
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

450
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And to make matters worse, Adolf, the insurance investigator

451
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 2>was still sniffing around. So Adolf was having a difficult

452
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>time finding Joseph Mellory to question him, obviously, because the

453
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 2>man doesn't exist.

454
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Like who was that movie with Red and Andy? Yeah,

455
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 3>he only exists on paper. He only exists on paper.

456
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Right when he brought it up to an agent at Prudential.

457
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>The agent told Adolf that the man he was looking

458
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>for worked as a bartender at Marino's Speakeasy in late March.

459
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Adolf walked into the bar. Marino was wiping down the countertops,

460
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and except for these two men, the establishment was empty.

461
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>The few customers were scared off after tough Tony's murder,

462
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>so you know, because it happened, I mean yeah. Adolf

463
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>asked for Joseph Mellory, and Tony said he'd left for

464
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia for an extended vacation, but he would put them

465
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>in touch when Joseph returned from his trip. When Adolf

466
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>later approached Frank with the same question, Frank relayed the

467
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>same details as Tony to a disconcerting extent. It was

468
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 2>almost like it was exact. It's very scripted. However, if

469
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Adolph asked anyone else about the Mellory brothers, no one

470
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 2>had even heard of them.

471
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh these two guys.

472
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Y, yeah, just Tony and Frank to cause an even

473
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.279
<v Speaker 2>bigger puzzle. When Adolph looked at Frank's bill for the

474
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Nicholas Mellory funeral, it made little sense that a man

475
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>so few people knew would have such an extravagant very right.

476
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 2>On April third, nineteen thirty three, Joe Maglioni was indicted

477
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>by grand jury for the murder of Anthony tough Tony Bestoni.

478
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 2>He was arraigned four days later and he pled not guilty.

479
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Soon after the indictment, Harry Hershey Green was arrested for

480
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>carrying a concealed handgun. He was thrown into Bronx County

481
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Jail with Joe and Red. Later on, Daniel Kriesberg would

482
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 2>be taken in after being arrested relating to the pants

483
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>bandit robberies. Remember he told you that he was with

484
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>that other woman. They were taking their pants.

485
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, crazy, I know.

486
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>When things started to unravel, Tony Marino decided to hire

487
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>one of his cousins to look after his bar for

488
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>a dollar a day, incorrectly thinking that physical space from

489
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the bar would translate to space between him and the

490
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>insurance investigation. Frank took to perfecting a story in case

491
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the men in jail developed loose lips. Sure, however, Mike

492
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Mallory's story was making the rounds in the boroughs of

493
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 2>New York, A story about a man who couldn't be killed,

494
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>not by drink not by poison, not by being hit

495
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>by a car. Yeah, I was right, guy, mm hmm.

496
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>The story also included greedy villains who would continue to

497
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>try to kill him until they succeeded. The story on

498
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the streets would reach a police patrolman as he walked

499
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the beat, and it would eventually make The story eventually

500
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>made its way up to the inspector of the homicide squad,

501
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>who then brought it to the attention of the Bronx

502
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>County District Attorney, Samuel J. Foley, who immediately opened an investigation.

503
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

504
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>John McNally had been brought into the murder Trust early

505
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>on as part of the contingency plan. I don't know

506
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>if you remember me telling you about him, but he

507
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>was hired in case like they needed to kill somebody. Okay,

508
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, if Michael had become a problem, John McNally

509
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>and his partner Ed Smith would bump him off. Is

510
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>basically you know, remember it was like a safety net.

511
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

512
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>In April nineteen thirty three, John McNally had been arrested

513
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>for carrying a concealed weapon and, realizing his history of

514
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>criminal activity was putting him up for a long stand prison,

515
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 2>he was looking for a way to secure himself a deal. Yep,

516
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>there's no honor on thieves, is what.

517
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 4>They I was just thinking that girl, there is no

518
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 4>honor among thieves.

519
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>The last week of April, District Attorney Foley and John

520
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 2>McNally pulled up a chair and John told him of

521
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a meeting he'd had with an undertaker and a speakeasy

522
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 2>owner where the murder of a homeless alcoholic.

523
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Man was discussed.

524
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Policemen were sent to bars to listen to the stories

525
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>and directed to not mock the unbelievability of what was

526
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>being said. They noted names Day and other sources that

527
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 2>agreed with John McNally's version of events. So it was

528
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>several of the suspects involved already behind bars for unrelated crimes.

529
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't as difficult as it could have been to

530
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 2>put things together, and since these men were already behind bars,

531
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>they didn't have a clue that their plot was being

532
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>pulled wide open.

533
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes, for an angles there, yeah, mm hmm. Taking down

534
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 4>that house the.

535
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Cards, Yeah, the house cards has fallen hard. Eventually, District

536
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Attorney Folly had put together where Nicholas Mallory was buried

537
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>and worked to have the body exhumedo. Yeah. May eleventh,

538
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty three, the police entered Ferncliffe Cemetery with a

539
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>court order to exume grave number twenty seventy, where Nicholas

540
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Mallory had been buried. The body was taken to Fordham

541
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Hospital for an autopsy round seven forty five. In the evening,

542
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>a detective brought John McNally to the morgue. They asked

543
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>him do you know the man on the table and

544
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>John nodded. They asked him, is that the man you

545
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>knew to be insured and buried under the name Nicholas Mallory?

546
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.119
<v Speaker 2>And John said that's him.

547
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

548
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>They said did you know him under any other name?

549
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>And John said I knew him by his real name.

550
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, what was that? And he said, Michael molloy.

551
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 2>So now like, okay, the roof is blown off.

552
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna say, yep, I can't even wait

553
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 4>to see how this unpacks.

554
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Now it's gonnakeet getting faster.

555
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>The dominoes are falling as they are. The autopsy began

556
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 2>around nine pm that night. The doctor made notes as

557
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 2>he examined the external parts of the body. He recorded

558
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>when his first cuts into the victim are made, and

559
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>he took blood samples, mixing them in a tube with

560
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>sodium hydroxide. When mixed with sodium hydroxide, blood not containing

561
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>carbon oxide would change color to greenish brown or black.

562
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>If the blood does contain carbon monoxide and is mixed

563
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>with that chemical, the mixture would stay red. So it

564
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>was clear within seconds that the cause of death on the.

565
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Death certificate was false.

566
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that man had not died of low bar pneumonia,

567
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 2>but by asphyxiation by carbon monoxide.

568
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I had no idea that there was a test that,

569
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, not that I know a lot about embalming

570
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 4>a body or anything like that, but I had no idea,

571
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, other than a drug panel. I know they

572
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 4>can sense when arsenic or poisons have been used, but as.

573
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Far I didn't know there was an asphyxiation test. That's

574
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>pretty interesting.

575
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>It is interesting, and this just goes to show I

576
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think he was embalmed.

577
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

578
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's still had blood that they extreme.

579
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't think Frank put any money into him except

580
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 4>for that cheap cheap right, that's exactly terrible.

581
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

582
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Also on May eleventh, the police knocked on Tony Marino's door.

583
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 2>When they asked him if he had anything to say,

584
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 2>he said no. The police asked Tony a few more questions,

585
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but Tony wasn't forthcoming, tired of being drug along. The

586
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 2>officer asked him directly, where is Michael mLOY? Tony lied

587
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and told him the last time he'd seen Maloy was

588
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital back in January, when Michael had sought

589
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>treatment for an open sore on his leg. He said

590
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't seen or heard from him since. So on

591
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>the surface, Tony kept it together, but his insides were shaking,

592
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>like all hell.

593
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I bet he's in his pants right now.

594
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 4>You're always like living in like you know, I have

595
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>PTSD and I can just imagine him just being on

596
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 4>red alert, always a fight or flight that's taxing on

597
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 4>the body. And didn't you say in the very beginning

598
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 4>he has like several venereal diseases.

599
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well that's not good either. Yeah, one more

600
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 3>thing that's dead on the body.

601
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Right. This was the first time that Michael Malloy's name

602
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>had been brought up during questioning, so they asked him again,

603
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>is this the truth? And Tony answered that it was.

604
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>The policeman replied informing Tony that Michael was dead. Detectives

605
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>were at Ferncliffe Cemetery digging him up as they spoke,

606
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and Tony stood his ground that he was telling the truth.

607
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>They drove to District Attorney Foley's to let him know

608
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>what had been said, and fully decided to have Red

609
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>brought in for questions.

610
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, here we go, Here we go. Yeah.

611
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Around four to twenty that afternoon, Red made his way

612
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>to the interrogation room. During Foley's questioning, he just spilled

613
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>his guts, okay, substantiating John McNally's stories. He named names,

614
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and he disclosed that he'd been in the car when

615
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Michael was ran over. Oh my, and he also revealed

616
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>that Joe and tough Tony had been arguing about the

617
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 2>split of the assurance money when tough Toni was killed.

618
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>He laid out the entire scheme for the DA, explaining

619
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that he was supposed to pretend to be Michael mlloy's brother,

620
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Joseph Mellery and that they had also attempted to kill

621
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 2>another man in Michael Mallory's place, and that was one

622
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>part of the plan that the police hadn't discovered yet.

623
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So just his lips are a flappen, right.

624
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 4>He almost validates everything he's been saying when he drops

625
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 4>new information, and he's been checking the boxes off.

626
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 3>This is gravy.

627
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Around seven forty five, John McNally was brought into the

628
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>morgue where he identified the body of Nicholas Mallory and

629
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>he identified it as Michael Malloy for the detectives. That evening,

630
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>both Tony Marino and Frank Pascual were picked up and

631
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>brought in for questioning. The men were not as forthcoming

632
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously with information and as Red had been. The battle

633
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.199
<v Speaker 2>of wits taking place in the interrogation room was an

634
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>olympic feat as they both tried to omit facts, they

635
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>created stories, and they placed the blame on anyone else.

636
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 2>But then, after numerous questions went by without any answers

637
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>at all, Dea fully asked, are you afraid that answering

638
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>these questions might incriminate you? And Tony Marino answered yes,

639
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I have no lawyer, And then he said do you

640
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>need a lawyer to tell the truth? You know what

641
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you?

642
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

643
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>So Tony wasn't going to talk. After two hours of

644
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>this verbal battle, Tony was excused to a holding cell.

645
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Kresburg was now brought in for interrogation, and, like Red,

646
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>he would lay it all out for the police, attempting

647
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>to play on their sympathies, telling them that the gang

648
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>had threatened him. He told the whole story from the beginning,

649
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 2>and even admitted he was there when Michael molloy was gassed.

650
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>At the end of his story, he was taken back

651
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 2>to his cell. Frank was different. He'd prepped for this

652
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:05.800
<v Speaker 2>for weeks.

653
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 4>He's been in the death game, yes, for years, as

654
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 4>an undertaker in that time. I'm not trying to give

655
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 4>undertakers any kind of negative name. But also it's you know,

656
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 4>consider the times, you know, how far are they and

657
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the checks and balances of.

658
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Right such a business.

659
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Right.

660
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>He had been strangely absent at the more violent of

661
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the attempts on Michael Mulloy's life. Many of the men

662
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>in the group had noticed he wasn't taking part in

663
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>certain activities, but in their eyes, he'd taken out the policies.

664
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 2>He'd taken care of the funeral, so his hands were

665
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 2>as dirty as theirs. Oh, absolutely, But Frank was also

666
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>thoughtful and intelligent. He'd mentally gone over his story hundreds

667
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 2>of times and realized that his triumph would lie in

668
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>maintain painting that he'd never met Michael mlloy. He'd only

669
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>ever known Nicholas Mallory.

670
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

671
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>During the questioning, when asked if he'd known Michael mlloy,

672
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>he denied it. Cushing DA Foley stated, he's the man

673
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you buried under the name Mellory. Frank countered, I know Mallory,

674
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know Mike molloy. Da A Folly asked

675
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 2>about Mellory's brother. Frank came right back, saying that it

676
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>was Red, the man who worked behind the Barrett Marinos.

677
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Da fully clarified that Red was Joe Murphy, and Frank

678
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>feigned that he didn't know. Red. Wasn't just what I did.

679
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 3>I Joe, what.

680
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 4>You are?

681
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Reviser? I was that Chris Farley and David say what

682
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 3>you do.

683
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Me boy?

684
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Tommy boy? Yes, what what'd you do? Big guyt Li.

685
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Goat?

686
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I love that movie me too.

687
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>So da Foley said that it was Rad. His name

688
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 2>is Joe Murphy, and Frank's like what he said, I

689
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that he was Joseph Mallory, saying that Red

690
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>had met him at the apartment when he took the

691
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>body away and had told him Nicholas Mallory was his brother.

692
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 2>When asked if he'd like to make any confession, Frank stated,

693
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I have no confession to make. Da fully shared the

694
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>facts he'd been given by John McNally read and Daniel Cresberg,

695
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>while Frank continued to deny any involvement.

696
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 3>And wow, he is Stannon, he is Dougannon. Yeah.

697
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>After hours of questioning, Frank got tired and careless. He

698
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 2>slipped in one single answer about Mellory visiting doctor Manzilla.

699
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Frank said, Mallory told me so. DA fully questioned, you

700
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>mean Mike. Yes, he answered, quietly, knowing he'd been caught.

701
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>As he floundered and flailed trying to recover, Da Foley

702
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>decided to give him one last chance to allow Frank

703
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 2>to give his narrative, his side of the story. Once

704
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>it was on record, Da Foley knew he could tear

705
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it apart piece by piece. Frank would only admit to

706
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>obtaining the life insurance policies. He would never confess to

707
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>being any part of.

708
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 3>The murder ploy Yeah, the murder trust, of the murder.

709
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Trust After Frank finished crafting his tail, DA Foley pulled

710
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 2>out the itemized bill that he had sent to Prudential,

711
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 2>having obtained it from Adolf. He questioned why Frank would

712
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>have sent in a bill to Prudential when he'd already

713
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 2>been paid by Metropolitan. He also clarified the items in

714
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the bill that hadn't happened, the funeral procession, the embalming,

715
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the extravagant casket. The bill was completely false. Frank blamed

716
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>everything on tough Tony Bestny and Tony Marino, saying they'd

717
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 2>strong armed him.

718
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh bully, yes right.

719
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>The following day, after da Foley received the results regarding

720
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the carabon monoxide test, his patience is.

721
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 3>Like done then, yes, this fuckery? Yeah right.

722
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 2>He called Tony Marino in. After making no further gains

723
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 2>during this round of interrogation, he brought Red up to

724
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the room and let them bicker with each other in

725
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>front of him, preferring this method to exhausting himself trying

726
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 2>to pull information.

727
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, trying to ask the right question.

728
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>And yeah yeah. When Red was taken back to a cell,

729
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Tony made himself comfortable. He told the closest thing resembling

730
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the truth that he could without actually telling the truth.

731
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Around two in the morning, Tony asked for a break.

732
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 2>May twelfth, nineteen thirty three, da Foley finally announced the

733
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>scheme to the media. It was called quote, one of

734
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the most diabolic plots for profit in the annals of

735
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the City end quote. The Home News, which was a newspaper,

736
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>released an article detailing the entire sordid tale. The investigation

737
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>following the release of the story led to the search

738
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 2>for Joseph Murray, whom the Murder Trust had attempted to kill.

739
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Remember he was that other guy they hit. He would

740
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 2>eventually be tracked down in time to testify as a

741
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>material witness during the trial. There were also questions coming

742
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to the surface regarding the suspicious death of Mabel Carlson,

743
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>remembers shot too, whose murder would not make it to trial.

744
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Prosecuting the case himself, the indictments were rushed read. Tony Marino,

745
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Frank Pascua, Daniel Cresburg, Joe Maglioni, and Hershey Green were

746
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>arraigned and held without bail. Doctor Manzela was arrested but

747
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>released on ten thousand dollars bail.

748
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Ten was like a million dollars like three.

749
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>It was a million, had to be close to a million.

750
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Right On Tuesday, May sixteenth, a grand jury convene. The

751
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 2>DA had more than twenty witnesses. The testimony was so

752
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 2>damaging that there was no question that they were going.

753
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 3>To receive the electric chair. Wow.

754
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>The witnesses would recount every disaster of the murder attempts,

755
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>every painful detail of their failures in an attempt to

756
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 2>satisfy their greed. The indictments were returned the same day,

757
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>shortly after the final witness testified murder in the first

758
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 2>degree for all but doctor Manzella, who was indicted on

759
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 2>accessory after the fact and failing to notify the medical

760
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 2>examiner and police of Michael Malloy's death right while awaiting trial.

761
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Hershey Green, who had seen very little value in human

762
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>life up to that point, all of a sudden saw

763
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the value in his own. Oh yeah, oh shit, we're

764
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>going to save my own ass, right, Yeah?

765
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Did he turned to the Lord.

766
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

767
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 3>They didn't get religion.

768
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get religion, but he turned as a state's witness.

769
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 3>As witness, Okay, as.

770
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Did Joe Maglioni. After running into Tony at the barbershop

771
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in jail and exchanging some harsh words. October third, nineteen

772
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>thirty three, the jury was seated for the trial. The

773
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>prosecution began laying out their case on October fourth, and

774
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the defense opened their side on Friday, the thirteenth of

775
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>October an Omo, with closing arguments beginning first thing on

776
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>October eighteenth. At seven fifteen that night, the jury was

777
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>handed the case. At four fifteen a m. The morning

778
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>of October nineteenth, they had finally reached a verdict, so

779
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 2>it took them about seven hours. Each man was found

780
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>guilty and sentenced to the electric chair. Wow Da Foley

781
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>stated to the press, I think it was a proper

782
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>verdict for a most cruel murder which was inspired by

783
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>nothing more than sordid greed.

784
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I totally agree, I mean what for sure?

785
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Early Saturday, October twenty first, the men were transferred to

786
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Sing Sing prison. When they were relieved of their possessions,

787
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>it was found the four men had sixteen dollars and

788
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>five cents between them. Their appeals dragged on and on,

789
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and on three occasions the men escaped the electric chair

790
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 2>with mere hours to spare. Wow I know eventually, though

791
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 2>their luck ran out and the Home News, which was

792
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>a newspaper, reported, quote, four members of the Murder Trust,

793
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 2>who were convicted of one of the most brutal murders

794
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>in the history of the Bronx, are scheduled to die

795
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 2>in the electric chairs sometime after eleven o'clock tonight end. Quote.

796
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.800
<v Speaker 2>It was reported by the Daily Mirror that as the

797
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 2>clock ticked closer to their end, the men carried themselves

798
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 2>with a decreasing dignity.

799
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I bet, yeah, I bet, and their ship, Tanya.

800
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean honestly, okay, all the four are going at

801
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 4>the same time.

802
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 3>They don't got four chairs.

803
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure, right, I'm only basing my knowledge on

804
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 4>the Green Mile. You are saying that you're listening to

805
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 4>your cohorts and the light flickering. I go first, I'm

806
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 4>not listening to nobody. I would go, I'm going to

807
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 4>coward my whole life. Coward me out first, mine as well,

808
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:28.119
<v Speaker 4>finish off.

809
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, Oh my god, I.

810
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to be last that warmed up girl.

811
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm feeling sorry for them at all, not

812
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking for one second. But I'm just saying, you know,

813
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 4>how you just put yourself what would I do. What

814
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 4>was you know, what am I deciding?

815
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Short straw? I do not care.

816
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I know, I wonder how they decided, Like.

817
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, they have the zodiac signs. Who's what's

818
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 3>going on?

819
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So it was doctor Amos Baker's job to assess

820
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the mental state of each prisoner and determine who would

821
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>be put to death first.

822
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, oh boy.

823
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>It was protocol for the weakest man to be the

824
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 2>leadoff in those situations, and in this group, it was

825
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 2>determined to be Frank, who was an emotional wreck.

826
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say what he pissed himself?

827
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know he did all this bullshit. Got a

828
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking doctor did all this.

829
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he was the biggest fugaisey out of them,

830
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 4>all the ones. Like we had it shit together now

831
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 4>as a puddle of goo. Right to accountability, right.

832
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I know? Between eleven oh one and eleven eighteen on

833
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 2>June seventh, nineteen thirty four, the conspirators were led to

834
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the chair. As one body was wheeled out, the next

835
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>man was brought in to take his place.

836
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 4>Crazy, I know today, I'm sorry, I'm just like blown away.

837
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Fin what time in Alabama? Can't get the right injection medicine.

838
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 4>M hm, we've not really made any good progress in

839
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 4>this kind.

840
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Of no, And the electric chair was brutal. And back

841
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>in the thirties, when you committed a crime like this,

842
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 2>they fucking fried your ass right away. I mean there

843
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 2>was no like twenty years yeah, twenty years like you

844
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 2>committee crime twenty years ago and you finally, you know,

845
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 2>are getting your death sentence carried out. But uugh, yeah, brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a story once. I can't remember which one

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<v Speaker 2>it was called, but I did a story about how

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<v Speaker 2>someone was put to death and it was totally fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up by the electric chair, like it was a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the Green Mile gives a good example of just

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<v Speaker 4>one way it can be horribly cruel and right right,

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<v Speaker 4>I can just pivot from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Warden Laws of Sing Sing, turned to face

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<v Speaker 2>the walls during the process in his silent protest of

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<v Speaker 2>capital punishment. I guess the Warden was not a fan, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Campbell would report the execution to be the state's

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<v Speaker 2>toast to Mike the Durable.

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<v Speaker 4>No kidding, right, yeah, Oh well you can't stand a

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<v Speaker 4>little electricity, I can handle paint dinner, Yeah, right, motherfuckers right.

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<v Speaker 2>During their later trials, Joe Maglioni was sentenced to five

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<v Speaker 2>years and sing sing for manslaughter and Harry Hershey Green

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<v Speaker 2>received five to ton for felonious assault. Okay, so they

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<v Speaker 2>did not see the death penalty. They did not meet

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<v Speaker 2>mister Sparky.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you God.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, oh, I mean and not thank God because they

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he's still killed. Tof Tony, you're still in

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<v Speaker 4>the fairies, You're in terrible. There's some shitty energy when

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<v Speaker 4>you're fucking taking advantage of somebody and then you're around

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<v Speaker 4>all that necrotic energy and it's just terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that is my part two of the Unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Malloy's Yeah, I can't believe how these got.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're standing someone up in a teeth formation

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<v Speaker 4>and rubbing of the car, the holes in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, what is the what?

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<v Speaker 4>How don't I just can't believe the the cowardice, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they think they're so close terrible God bless Mike Malloy,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a good Irish. Yeah, you know, I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>partial to the Irish, to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Irish, the Irish can't believe the the the wood alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>What it was. It was, Yeah, like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't kill me. He was drinking so much of it.

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<v Speaker 4>To where he could just pass out and now, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's your body is only going to take

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<v Speaker 4>so much. And it's a miracle for him. He truly

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<v Speaker 4>did deserve his name. Tough Tony, eat a dick, make

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<v Speaker 4>room for Mike. Mike exactly off my ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, until we meet again. You take care and you

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, until next time.

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