Speaker 1: At five here fifty five Krcity Talk Station, A very
Speaker 1: happy Friday may even happier. Welcome back to the fifty
Speaker 1: five Carsy Morning show Man, my listening audience that doesn't
Speaker 1: need to have an introduced. Bill O'Reilly. You've read all
Speaker 1: of his books. He's got eighteen number one ranked nonfiction books.
Speaker 1: Remember the Killing Series. I think Bill, you've been on
Speaker 1: my program half a dozen times for your Killing Series.
Speaker 1: I've read every single one of those outstanding author you are,
Speaker 1: and today you're gonna talking about your brand new book,
Speaker 1: confronting the President's no spin assessment from Washington to Biden.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly, Welcome to the program. It's great to have
Speaker 1: you back on. I've been fine. I've been fine. Now
Speaker 1: this is a you started Washington, you ended Biden, and
Speaker 1: it's more than just sort of the general description. You
Speaker 1: actually do some interesting detective work. We got some corrupt ones,
Speaker 1: we got some philanderers, we got some terrible press. I
Speaker 1: mean a great assessment from A to Z here what
Speaker 1: prompted you.
Speaker 2: Confronting the president's cover to cover? You'll be the smartest
Speaker 2: kid on your block. You'll know everything about your country.
Speaker 2: So we got forty five individuals, and they're really like
Speaker 2: all of us in the sense that they do good
Speaker 2: and bad things. And I don't rank them. I say, here,
Speaker 2: it's who they are. Here's how they lived, right down
Speaker 2: on what they eat for lunch and breakfast. Here's the
Speaker 2: overall assessment that we have of them. But you make
Speaker 2: up your own mind whether they helped or hurt the country.
Speaker 2: And it's fun to read it, as all my killing
Speaker 2: books are. We're shifting from killing to confronting now, but
Speaker 2: it's the same style. It's the same breezy, fun style,
Speaker 2: and on every page you're gonna go, WHOA. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that. I didn't know George Washington's mother didn't like
Speaker 2: them and they had a big feud. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that Abraham Lincoln once contemplated suicide. I didn't know any
Speaker 2: of that. So that's why we're the most successful nonfiction
Speaker 2: book authors in the world.
Speaker 1: With that question, you and Martin Duggard, your co author
Speaker 1: of the book, and these books my question, and I
Speaker 1: actually looked up the DSM five diagn criteria for narcissism
Speaker 1: because I regularly accuse most all politicians of being malignant narcissists,
Speaker 1: and wonder what drives them. Did you can you come
Speaker 1: up with a general conclusion about personality types for presidents
Speaker 1: who actually are they became president or politicians generally speaking,
Speaker 1: or are they a mixed bag?
Speaker 2: Well, there are some people with very positive ambition and
Speaker 2: they want to help other people, and there are presidents
Speaker 2: like that. I think Teddy Roosevelt goes into that category.
Speaker 2: And then there are other people who are malevolent and
Speaker 2: they love power and they'll do anything you get it,
Speaker 2: and Lindon Johnson would be the poster boy for that.
Speaker 2: And then there are people in the middle. But we
Speaker 2: have them all. In the forty five elections, actually forty six.
Speaker 2: Guse grew over Cleveland got elected twice. We've got them all,
Speaker 2: and it's my job to kind of ferret it out
Speaker 2: and stop mythologizing people and tell Americans who they really were,
Speaker 2: because the book is relevant to today. I mean, one
Speaker 2: of the really interesting parts of the book is that
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's campaign is a base on the nineteen twenty election.
Speaker 2: It's a really they're doing exactly the same thing as
Speaker 2: Warren Harding did. No kidding, nobody knows who Warren Harding is,
Speaker 2: so byan you go out to Cincinnati today and you
Speaker 2: stop somebody going, hey, how about that Warren Harding? He goes,
Speaker 2: isn't he here? Rapper? I don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: He is one of the worst because nobody knew anything
Speaker 2: about him, and he wouldn't campaign, He wouldn't answer any questions.
Speaker 2: He said on his sport in Marion, Ohio, and if
Speaker 2: you wanted to see him, he had to go there
Speaker 2: and wave it to him and he gets in and
Speaker 2: it was his absolute disaster. And it's so relevant today
Speaker 2: because we don't know anything about Kamala Harris. Don't we
Speaker 2: know that our values haven't changed? What values of those lady?
Speaker 2: You know? So I tried to make the book very
Speaker 2: relevant to what Americans are going through this year.
Speaker 1: Well, I g grabbed a hold of Hearting there because
Speaker 1: I noted from the materials. And this is the first
Speaker 1: time you and I have talked where I have not
Speaker 1: read your book in advance. I'll acknowledge that ahead because
Speaker 1: you quite often asked that question directly of those who
Speaker 1: were interviewing here. But I will read it. But Harding
Speaker 1: apparently had a lot of extramarital affairs as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he conducted them in the White House. I mean,
Speaker 2: but it's even worse than that. While the campaign was
Speaker 2: going on, his mistress gave birth to his kid and
Speaker 2: nobody reported it was insane.
Speaker 3: So this is a real villain, this Harding guy, and
Speaker 3: you know, Commas not nearly what he was, but the
Speaker 3: techniques that he used to achieve power being used again today.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's to me that the American people
Speaker 1: are responsible for allowing that. How can someone who you
Speaker 1: know nothing about get elected by the American people? I guess,
Speaker 1: going back to Harding again, how did how did they
Speaker 1: pull it off back then? How do people remain so
Speaker 1: in the dark about someone yet elect him for president?
Speaker 2: Well, it was just coming up World War One and
Speaker 2: we didn't have TV, radio was in its infancy. The
Speaker 2: papers were they were okay, but you know, out in Marion, Ohio,
Speaker 2: Hardy himself owned the newspapers. So it wasn't the folks's
Speaker 2: fault so much. Then they were cut up with Woodrow
Speaker 2: Wilson an eight year of the eight years of Democrats
Speaker 2: in the World War One era. There wasn't so much
Speaker 2: the folks. It was here's how we're going to get power.
Speaker 2: We know, the Republicans knew that Harding was ridiculous, but
Speaker 2: didn't have anybody else, and he was a good front
Speaker 2: man and they won. And then the kicker on the
Speaker 2: whole story is that he dies in San Francisco, and
Speaker 2: some people believe that his wife poisoned them. Flarrence had
Speaker 2: had enough of him running around with his mistress, so
Speaker 2: I can't confirm that. But Florence got him in the
Speaker 2: ground fast, and all autopsy just Larrence dead. Get him
Speaker 2: in the ground well.
Speaker 1: I have a conversation every week with jud Jenna Paula
Speaker 1: Tana and we always focus on the Constitution because he
Speaker 1: and I are politically like minded in our our belief
Speaker 1: in the Founding Principles and what's embodied in the Constitution,
Speaker 1: and that our rights are in fact God given. If
Speaker 1: you had to put your finger on one particular president,
Speaker 1: of all of the ones you looked at all of them,
Speaker 1: who do you think under has undermined the Founding Father's
Speaker 1: principles or the principle was embodied in the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 1: If I can both down to just that part the most.
Speaker 2: It's a hard question. I think John Tyler, who was
Speaker 2: a slaver, a trader, you know, to be Canoe and
Speaker 2: Tyler too. We go back to Ohio again with Harrison.
Speaker 2: He dies John Tyler. Nobody knows much about him. He's
Speaker 2: VP Southern guy. Virginia comes in and you know, pretty
Speaker 2: much runs roughshot over the Constitution. Everything he wanted he
Speaker 2: beat out, like hundreds of bills, and then when the
Speaker 2: war broke out, he became a senator for the Confederacy.
Speaker 2: He's a trader. I mean, so this guy was about
Speaker 2: as low as you can go about trying to undermine
Speaker 2: our constitution.
Speaker 1: And overall your assessment of the Reagan administration. That's when
Speaker 1: I came of political age, Bill O'Reilly, and I just
Speaker 1: just really embraced Reagan's presidency. He was uplifting. He you know,
Speaker 1: it was just a positive guy. And of course he
Speaker 1: had a very successful presidency. Anything about Reagan that you
Speaker 1: get popped up there, that you found out about that
Speaker 1: most people wouldn't even know about, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: about the Iran Contra affair, but what about you know,
Speaker 1: these other salacious details of these other scanners were something
Speaker 1: that maybe is really great about Reagan that we don't
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 2: Well, we wrote Killing Reagan, So if you really want
Speaker 2: to know about the man that suit to notts right there.
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was a successful president because of his largely
Speaker 2: because of his demeanor is optimism. Yeah, he lifted the
Speaker 2: country out of this Jimmy Carter malaise. Carter very similar
Speaker 2: to Joe Biden, but Biden was worse in Carter. Carter
Speaker 2: at least tried Biden and you try so. Reagan, the
Speaker 2: force of his personality and that he knew how to
Speaker 2: present himself was his strongest suit. Second strongest was his
Speaker 2: vision that we can collapse commonism if the United States
Speaker 2: develops this weaponry that the Russians just don't have the
Speaker 2: money to do it. That was a pretty brilliant strategy
Speaker 2: and it worked. Now Reagan was out of office when
Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed,
Speaker 2: but it was him. He was the architect of that
Speaker 2: and he had very firm beliefs. By the way, Ronald
Speaker 2: rag he wasn't always she washing. So Reagan was an
Speaker 2: excellent president. He's in the top ten.
Speaker 1: Kind of figured you reached that conclusion well in your
Speaker 1: assessing Donald Trump. Of course we're gonna have a choice
Speaker 1: here in November. We have no idea who Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is other than the things that in position, she'd out
Speaker 1: loud taken as she tried to run for president, but
Speaker 1: no one had any interest in her. But you had
Speaker 1: four years of Donald Trump. Of course, his administration plagued
Speaker 1: by all the allegations of collusion and the like. What's
Speaker 1: your overall assessment of Trump as you as you dealt
Speaker 1: with it in confronting the presidents, Well.
Speaker 2: He governed well for four years and mocking if you
Speaker 2: look at the economy. Of course COVID interrupted it, but
Speaker 2: he's a libertarian capitalist and at worked and real wages
Speaker 2: is the proof. They went up seven percent for everybody
Speaker 2: across the board. That's a really remarkable achievement. So in
Speaker 2: the four years that he was there, he did a
Speaker 2: much better job than Biden did in three and a half.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not even any comparison there. So Trump
Speaker 2: should be ahead by ten points over Harris, but he's
Speaker 2: not because he muddles the waters with crazy stuff and
Speaker 2: that hurts him dramatically. With people who don't really pay
Speaker 2: close attention, They really don't know policy and they don't
Speaker 2: know how things get done, but they hear stuff on
Speaker 2: they hear him say crazy stuff and they go and
Speaker 2: this guy I'm tired of him. So with Trump as
Speaker 2: a mixed bag. He's a deal maker and he was successful.
Speaker 2: He accomplished an amazing thing by even getting elected in sixteen.
Speaker 2: But he just isn't disciplined enough to get that message
Speaker 2: across to the American people. I hope that he course corrects,
Speaker 2: but at this point, I mean, you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: not a lock in November that could go to her,
Speaker 2: which would be a disaster for the United.
Speaker 1: States, absolute disaster. Of course, in the amended version of
Speaker 1: Confronting the Presidents, he'll deal with Kamala Harris if she
Speaker 1: does become president. He is Bill O'Reilly, along with Martin Duggard,
Speaker 1: the name of the book Confronting the President's No Spin
Speaker 1: Assessment from Washington to Biden. Bill O'Reilly, it's always wonderful
Speaker 1: talking to you. Thank you so much for the books
Speaker 1: that you write. They are a fantastic read and very informative.
Speaker 2: God, Bryan, after you finish the book, I'll come back.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it further.
Speaker 1: I look forward to that. Yes, I'll hold you to
Speaker 1: that promise. Bill O'Reilly, have a wonderful weekend. My friend
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