Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty.
Speaker 2: Wayne Resniks sitting in until nine. So earlier this morning
Speaker 2: I texted Handle to let him know I was going
Speaker 2: to announce my retirement this morning, and he texts me
Speaker 2: back and he said.
Speaker 3: Oh, well you need a new segment. Do you have
Speaker 3: a job?
Speaker 2: All right, some stories we're following for you here at KFI.
Speaker 2: Funeral services for former President Jimmy Carter will be held
Speaker 2: in Georgia and Washington, DC. It'll start with a state
Speaker 2: funeral in Georgia on Saturday, and then he will lie
Speaker 2: in state at the US Capitol starting Tuesday until a
Speaker 2: funeral service on Friday. Final Rose Parade preparations are underway
Speaker 2: and that kicks off tomorrow. If you want to go
Speaker 2: down there, you can start claiming your spot on the
Speaker 2: sidewalk at noon today. You want to be in that
Speaker 2: scrum now. Twenty twenty four was a year of hits
Speaker 2: and misses in the world of space exploration, and so
Speaker 2: here to tell us about them is our our space experts.
Speaker 3: If you will, Rod Pile, thank.
Speaker 2: You so much for coming on the show to do
Speaker 2: a cool space news year in review.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Wayne, And I'm still having PTSD
Speaker 1: from your mention of staying overnight for the Rose Parade, which.
Speaker 4: I will never do again. No I will.
Speaker 3: Oh you did it once.
Speaker 1: Oh I grew up in Pasttina, So I did it
Speaker 1: lots of times.
Speaker 2: Oh my good. Well, all right, you just burned yourself
Speaker 2: out on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess like.
Speaker 2: Kind of like the last stage of a rocket burns
Speaker 2: out at the appropriate time.
Speaker 4: Good segue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you mind? And really it's fine if
Speaker 2: you do, It's totally fine. Do you mind if I
Speaker 2: sort of because we have a nice list here of
Speaker 2: the successes and the things of space expiration that were
Speaker 2: not a success in twenty twenty four, do you mind
Speaker 2: if I ask you about the ones that I'm really
Speaker 2: interested in.
Speaker 3: I'm interested in all of them.
Speaker 2: But do you mind or do you want to set
Speaker 2: which ones you're going to talk about in what way?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You go for it. You're the expert, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So can we start with this?
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, and it happened on September eleventh,
Speaker 2: there was a record broken? Tell us about what record
Speaker 2: was broken in terms of space this year?
Speaker 1: Well, actually there were a couple. So I think the
Speaker 1: one you're talking about is how many people were in orbit?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, the most number of people in orbit at one time?
Speaker 2: Tell us how many and who were they from?
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: Did this record of how many people were actually in
Speaker 1: orbit at one time?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And it was the ISS crew, which was made up
Speaker 1: of a couple of different flights of astronauts, which unfortunately
Speaker 1: included and still include the two that flew up on
Speaker 1: Boeing Starliner which had to come back empty because it
Speaker 1: was having problems, and the Polaris Dawn flight, which was
Speaker 1: a private flight by a really fascinating guy named Jared
Speaker 1: Isaacman who was the putative we think, next leader of NASA.
Speaker 1: And those were four private astronauts that went up and
Speaker 1: broke a couple of records. And then finally the crew
Speaker 1: in the Tiangong Chinese Space Station, which rotated out a
Speaker 1: couple of times last year. So yeah, having nineteen people
Speaker 1: in orbit at one time is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1: Fortunately they weren't in all places all in one place,
Speaker 1: because it would have been very crowded. But just a
Speaker 1: note on that Polaris Dawn flight. So, Jared Isaacman is
Speaker 1: a billionaire who made his fortune credit.
Speaker 4: Card processing of.
Speaker 1: Dropped out of high school, I think, and started that
Speaker 1: company and then got his ged and he's still only
Speaker 1: I think in his forties. But the guy is just fascinating.
Speaker 1: This was his second private flight. Before that, he put
Speaker 1: together the world's largest private air force, the Airplane, so
Speaker 1: he's a flying fanatic for sure. But the player's down
Speaker 1: flight was four people in a SpaceX Dragon capsule and
Speaker 1: they first notched the altitude record, flying higher than anybody
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy two when Apollo seventeen left for the
Speaker 1: Moon and the highest Earth orbital flight. And then did
Speaker 1: a private space walk and it wasn't quite floating free
Speaker 1: like the astronauts do and they're working on the space station.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a stand up in the hatch
Speaker 1: and look around and then go back inside and let
Speaker 1: somebody else do it. But still for a private crew,
Speaker 1: this is a really big deal. So yeah, a little
Speaker 1: passel of records there.
Speaker 2: So I guess we said goodbye to Virgin Galactic Spaceplane.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this poor company, you know, they've been operating since
Speaker 1: about two thousand and four, and they finally were getting
Speaker 1: into a bit of a cadence after those accidents in
Speaker 1: the early part of the twenty tens where they lost
Speaker 1: one of them.
Speaker 4: But they have not yet really made any profit.
Speaker 1: They're charging They were charging two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars per flight and I was closed and a half
Speaker 1: a million. And you know this is this is a
Speaker 1: horizontal takeoff and landing rocket plane. So it's not quite
Speaker 1: like what blorgs En doing with the new Shepherds, straight
Speaker 1: up and straight back. But you know, we thought, okay,
Speaker 1: they're rounding the corner. They're starting to get some passion
Speaker 1: of flights going. That's good because they've sold I forget
Speaker 1: how many tickets.
Speaker 4: I think five.
Speaker 1: Hundred or six hundred pre sold tickets, either at full
Speaker 1: price or deposits, and they're trying to catch up because
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of investment that came in over
Speaker 1: the years, especially for the Middle East. But this plane,
Speaker 1: this rocket plane that they use, which is made out
Speaker 1: of carbon composits, has been not aging well. It's been
Speaker 1: getting stress cracks and so forth, and they don't want
Speaker 1: another accident. It's very complicated the way it re enters
Speaker 1: once it's dropped from this mother plane that carries it
Speaker 1: up to altitude and then it zooms up to the
Speaker 1: edge of space, as to this feathering maneuver where the
Speaker 1: back half of it kind of folds in for it
Speaker 1: to slow down and start coming back, and it puts
Speaker 1: a lot of stress on the airframe.
Speaker 4: So it's getting tired.
Speaker 1: And they say they're working on a replacement, and I
Speaker 1: have every confidence they are, but I know the company's
Speaker 1: been struggling with finances for seven eight years now, and
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure they're going to get through it.
Speaker 4: But we'll see, all right.
Speaker 2: Apparently we would like the Russians to plug an air
Speaker 2: leak in.
Speaker 3: They're part of.
Speaker 2: The International Space Station. Explain to us how the maintenance
Speaker 2: responsibilities are supposed to be handled. When you have different
Speaker 2: countries sharing.
Speaker 1: A space, you're supposed to fix your own stuff, right.
Speaker 1: So the International Space Station is made up of a
Speaker 1: couple of different sets of compartments, if you will.
Speaker 4: Modules.
Speaker 1: There's the Russian parts, which are actually the first ones
Speaker 1: that were up there. Then there's the American segments, which
Speaker 1: they started building shortly after when they were launching all
Speaker 1: this stuff in the late nineties, and then eventually the
Speaker 1: Europeans and the Japanese added their own pieces. But primarily
Speaker 1: it's Russian and American. So the Russian segment has been
Speaker 1: leaking a little bit since twenty nineteen, but that leak
Speaker 1: rate has been picking up, and they think they know
Speaker 1: where most of them are. They appear to be cracks
Speaker 1: in one of the early Russian segments. It's one called
Speaker 1: the PRK Moons, which connects to the Zevesdja Service Module,
Speaker 1: which is the power and propulsion part of the space station.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of important, but.
Speaker 1: It's important to know the space station's only been crewed
Speaker 1: since two thousand and we were building it the late nineties,
Speaker 1: but this module was actually built in the mid nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties for a replacement for the Mirror space station, and
Speaker 1: at that point Russia was starting to have some financial difficulties,
Speaker 1: especially on the space side, as just as they are now.
Speaker 1: So that thing was sitting on the ground kind of
Speaker 1: riding away until the United States came along and said, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union's fallen.
Speaker 4: We don't want your.
Speaker 1: Engineers to go work for the bad guys. Come work
Speaker 1: with us on the space station. We'll all do it together.
Speaker 1: And they said yes. So this is a really old
Speaker 1: piece of hardware, and this of course is in addition
Speaker 1: to a couple of years ago, you remember one of
Speaker 1: their spacecraft had a hole in it that we think
Speaker 1: was a manufacturing error. They said, no, no, a suicidal
Speaker 1: American astronaut drill the.
Speaker 4: Hole in our capsule.
Speaker 1: So you know, they kind of live a bit of
Speaker 1: a fantasy world, especially under their previous director of the
Speaker 1: space program there. But NASA is very concerned about this
Speaker 1: current leak because they're seeing these stress fractures because the
Speaker 1: space station does have stresses on it. Every time spacecraft
Speaker 1: docks or on docks with it, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a shutter that goes through the whole thing. Then
Speaker 1: a few years back, a Russian spacecraft came up and
Speaker 1: docked and suddenly the thrusters started firing, and it did
Speaker 1: I think a just shore up a three sixty or
Speaker 1: maybe a three sixty and a half of this thing
Speaker 1: flipping around until they got under control. So a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff going on up there, and you don't want
Speaker 1: those cracks to open up and suddenly give out.
Speaker 2: I would think not, And I'm not a space expert,
Speaker 2: but even I agree, I wouldn't want that. I looked,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want a draft in my house. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 4: Is going in the wrong direction, like out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't want the air. I wouldn't want the
Speaker 2: air sucked out of my house. And my house is
Speaker 2: not in the middle of outer space. Hey, can we
Speaker 2: talk about this?
Speaker 4: Check go ahead?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to because Okay, how often does NASA
Speaker 2: build or have built an entire thing, some kind of
Speaker 2: a thing and then say we're not going to use
Speaker 2: it at all?
Speaker 4: Lord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's a rover called VIPER, which is a
Speaker 1: volatile's prospecting rover that NASA has been building to send
Speaker 1: the Moon for years with JPL and other companies, and
Speaker 1: it was finished last year and it's a big, very
Speaker 1: expensive thing, about half a billion dollars, and everything was
Speaker 1: looking good.
Speaker 4: We're all very excited about this.
Speaker 1: Is going to go up on a private launch vehicle,
Speaker 1: a SpaceX launch vehicle. Then with a company called Intuitive
Speaker 1: Machines are going to help land it. And if you
Speaker 1: may recall, a couple of years ago, there were two
Speaker 1: private attempts at landing on the Moon and neither of
Speaker 1: them were quite right for reasons that still aren't clear.
Speaker 1: NASA called this press conference on a Friday afternoon, which
Speaker 1: is whenever they that's when they hold the press conferences.
Speaker 4: I kind of hope you might not watch, is my.
Speaker 1: Impression anyway, and said, yeah, we're not going to do this,
Speaker 1: and we're all looking at each other like what. And
Speaker 1: they even though the rovers finished and was getting ready
Speaker 1: to fly this year, for some reason, I was told
Speaker 1: off the record that it was problems with the company
Speaker 1: that was building the lander. They decided to cancel the mission,
Speaker 1: take the rover apart, and either sell or give away
Speaker 1: pieces of it to private companies that might.
Speaker 4: Want to take them up to the Moon.
Speaker 1: Now, the whole point of this thing was to go
Speaker 1: to the South Polar region and drive around looking for
Speaker 1: water ice, because that's what we want on the Moon
Speaker 1: because from that you can make the locks and rocket fuel,
Speaker 1: drinking water, all kinds of stuff. And it's really important
Speaker 1: that the Chinese are looking for it and we want
Speaker 1: to find it too. But for some weird reason, this
Speaker 1: missing mission was canceled, and now it's going to be
Speaker 1: years before we do that.
Speaker 2: Why don't they auction it off for charity because they
Speaker 2: think somebody else will be able to use some of
Speaker 2: the components to get it to the Moon and look
Speaker 2: for this water ice even though NASA can't or won't.
Speaker 4: That's the hope, and NASA could.
Speaker 1: The alleged reason was that by the time it was finished,
Speaker 1: because it costs money for it to sit around, because
Speaker 1: you've got to keep people on payroll and keep it
Speaker 1: fresh and all that, by the time it was finished
Speaker 1: it would be more than thirty percent over budget.
Speaker 4: But hey, you know webspace telescope.
Speaker 1: Hello, lots of things have gone more than thirty percent
Speaker 1: over budget, and this should have been the next thing
Speaker 1: that did. So it's still being tossed about in Congress
Speaker 1: and they're complaining about it, and who knows the Trump
Speaker 1: administration is going to do. It may get reactivated, but
Speaker 1: that's where it sits now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's finish up with this.
Speaker 2: Apparently there are there's some number of satellites now in orbit,
Speaker 2: so one how many? Two is that the do we
Speaker 2: currently have the most satellites in orbit that we've ever had?
Speaker 2: And then the big reveal one company is apparently responsible
Speaker 2: for an outsized share of all these satellites over our heads.
Speaker 4: Go man, you do a good build up.
Speaker 1: So there at last report, there was just under thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand active satellites in orbit. There's all kinds of inactive
Speaker 1: space junk flying around it there, which is kind of dangerous.
Speaker 4: But thirteen thousand active satellites.
Speaker 1: Half of them are SpaceX's Starlink satellites, and Starlink just
Speaker 1: this year, in another record, Buster built out its consumer
Speaker 1: cell connection network on those Starlink satellites. So besides offering
Speaker 1: global Internet broadband access, they are now offering consumers of
Speaker 1: some cell phone companies the ability to connect a phone
Speaker 1: through those satellites for text at this point, but eventually
Speaker 1: they get to voice and they all. SpaceX also launched
Speaker 1: more than half the rockets that flew last year, so
Speaker 1: there were two hundred and fifty sixty ish and SpaceX
Speaker 1: launched one hundred and thirty of those.
Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, well, they're very busy beavers over there.
Speaker 4: They are doing it.
Speaker 2: Rod, wonderful to talk to you. We will listen to
Speaker 2: you on this week in Space the podcast that you
Speaker 2: co host with Tarik Malik on the Twit network. And
Speaker 2: your books are wonderful. You could look at them at
Speaker 2: rodpilebooks dot com.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, sir, Save to you, sir, and congratulations
Speaker 1: on your re retirement.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, now I've never played Dungeons and Dragons,
Speaker 2: and I have only recently learned enough about it to
Speaker 2: even begin to understand how it's played. And the reason
Speaker 2: it's kind of the timing of this because the story
Speaker 2: here is about the new rules for Dungeons and Dragons
Speaker 2: that has the Dungeons and Dragons community at each other's throats.
Speaker 2: But it's also it's kind of weird happenstance because the
Speaker 2: only reason that I've learned what I've learned is I
Speaker 2: happen to be listening to very old episodes of a
Speaker 2: podcast called Harmontown. Dan Harmon, who made Community, used to
Speaker 2: do this live show at Nerdmelt rip nerd Melt, which
Speaker 2: was a comic book store that had a comedy room
Speaker 2: in the back. And I happen to be listening this
Speaker 2: morning to an episode where they played I forget what
Speaker 2: you call it, a campaign of Dungeons and Dragons live
Speaker 2: at this show, and they had somebody from the audience
Speaker 2: who was a dungeon master come up and make characters
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 3: So I've learned a little bit about.
Speaker 2: It, and this is not really about Dungeons and dragons
Speaker 2: per se. It's about these rule changes and what it
Speaker 2: says about what's going on in society. Because we talked
Speaker 2: earlier about the diversity, equity and inclusion programs that many
Speaker 2: corporations were running and are now backing away from because
Speaker 2: of backlash. So in the world of D and D,
Speaker 2: they are dealing with the first phase of the DEI
Speaker 2: the cycle, which is bringing some version of it into
Speaker 2: the game. So apparently you make a character or the
Speaker 2: dungeon master makes a character for you. And it used
Speaker 2: to be that you could pick your race. They called
Speaker 2: it race. What race do you want to be? Well,
Speaker 2: guess what?
Speaker 3: Now it's what species do you.
Speaker 2: Want to be? And it used to be that if
Speaker 2: you wanted to be a certain kind of character, that
Speaker 2: there were inherent attributes that that character would have. So
Speaker 2: if you were a mountain dwarf, you would be brawny.
Speaker 3: Every mountain dwarf in this game is browny. It comes
Speaker 3: with the territory.
Speaker 2: If you chose to be a high elf, it meant
Speaker 2: you were really intelligent.
Speaker 3: Well guess what happened. Racism is everywhere.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think the kinds of people who would play
Speaker 2: a game like Dungeons and Dragons would have a lot
Speaker 2: of racists in their midst but apparently there are enough
Speaker 2: that it was causing a problem because what would happen
Speaker 2: is the idea that what.
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 3: Memes how you are. That's a racial stereotype.
Speaker 2: All black people are this, all Asians are that, all
Speaker 2: white people are this, And it was happening in the
Speaker 2: game where people started to mix the fantasy characters and
Speaker 2: the things that they were with the idea of how
Speaker 2: humans of different races have inherent attributes all the time,
Speaker 2: and so certain characters in the game started to be
Speaker 2: associated with human races in a derogatory way. I'll just
Speaker 2: give you one example. It's very it's kind of weird
Speaker 2: to think somebody's playing Dungeons and Dragons and their attitude
Speaker 2: is that they're like, they're kind of racist against black
Speaker 2: people in real life, and now in the game of
Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragon Wagons, the orcs are like to them,
Speaker 2: they're like the black people of Dungeons and Dragons, that's
Speaker 2: no good, that's terrible. So they've changed a lot of
Speaker 2: the rules to try to get away from this idea
Speaker 2: that what you are it means how you are and
Speaker 2: yet the old school players they don't like these changes.
Speaker 2: And another thing is, now do you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're into BDSM or any of these sexual
Speaker 2: kink things. Boy, what a left turn. You're thinking, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: But you know about safe word? If I say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what a safe word is? You know what
Speaker 2: it is, You know what it is in certain contexts
Speaker 2: a safe word. You get into some stuff your role playing,
Speaker 2: and if things get a little out of hand and
Speaker 2: you don't want it, you have a safe word.
Speaker 3: Now there are safe.
Speaker 2: Words in Dungeons and Dragons. If a player feels uncomfortable
Speaker 2: with what's happening in this make believe role playing.
Speaker 3: Game, they can stop the action.
Speaker 2: And again, half of the players think it's an important
Speaker 2: way to bring inclusion and safety and accessibility into the game,
Speaker 2: and the other half say, this is ridiculous. You're trying
Speaker 2: to make Dungeons and Dragons woke. Now, now New Year's Eve,
Speaker 2: there will be lots of drinking, there will be lots
Speaker 2: of DUIs happening, and some of those will be detected
Speaker 2: by law enforcements, so there will be a lot of
Speaker 2: dui arrests. And it so happens that in the United
Speaker 2: States of America, and certainly in California for the last
Speaker 2: twenty years, the dui arrests capital is Laguna Beach. So
Speaker 2: the first thing I want to say about that is
Speaker 2: they are the leader in arrests for DUI. It doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily mean they have the most people driving drunk on
Speaker 2: any given night. It might mean they have a very
Speaker 2: aggressive and successful interdiction program. But in any event, they
Speaker 2: are the dui arrest kings of California have been for
Speaker 2: twenty years. Why well, there are a lot of drunk
Speaker 2: drivers there. I'm not saying they're more than other places
Speaker 2: of similar size. Except tell me what the population of
Speaker 2: Laguna Beaches.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 2: You may say, oh, yeah, it's about twenty two thousand people.
Speaker 2: Except every year they get six and.
Speaker 3: A half million visitors.
Speaker 2: It is an intensely popular tourist spot, both for people
Speaker 2: from southern California and from all over the world.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That is way too a terrible of a ratio between
Speaker 2: the number of visitors and the number of people who
Speaker 2: actually live there.
Speaker 3: You couldn't pay.
Speaker 2: Me to live in Laguna Beach if you said, we
Speaker 2: will give you a beautiful house and pay you half
Speaker 2: a million dollars a year to live in Laguna Beach,
Speaker 2: but you do have to live there. I wouldn't do it,
Speaker 2: and I know there's a lot of residents and business
Speaker 2: owners in Laguna Beach who do not like this. They
Speaker 2: do not like how many their duells from outside the
Speaker 2: city show up every weekend. In particular, they go to
Speaker 2: the bars and they cause trouble and the streets get
Speaker 2: crowded and parking is a nightmare. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: it's a big part of their economy there in Laguna Beach.
Speaker 2: So in any event, the police have been proactive about
Speaker 2: trying to catch people driving drunk, and they do a
Speaker 2: good job, but they felt it wasn't enough because ideally
Speaker 2: you really would tamp down the number of people driving drunk.
Speaker 2: One goal for a law enforcement agency could be to
Speaker 2: catch as many people driving drunk as possible, and another
Speaker 2: goal is to reduce the number of people driving drunk
Speaker 2: in the first place.
Speaker 3: So this is what they started doing.
Speaker 2: If they get somebody for drunk driving, they will send
Speaker 2: a letter to the bar where the person had their
Speaker 2: last drink. They don't say the name of the person,
Speaker 2: but they write a letter to the bar and they say, hey,
Speaker 2: on this date, someone was arrested, and I think they
Speaker 2: tell him his blood. I don't know if they say
Speaker 2: his that would reveal a gender. Their blood alcohol level
Speaker 2: was zero point one point eight, and it had and
Speaker 2: we arrested them at this date, this time and in
Speaker 2: this location.
Speaker 3: And the only way that they could know.
Speaker 2: Is if one they followed the person out of the
Speaker 2: bar and saw them get in their car and saw
Speaker 2: them drive away and pulled them over and there was
Speaker 2: a chain of custody, if you will, their eyes on
Speaker 2: the person they know which was the last bar they left,
Speaker 2: That would be solid. The only other way they could
Speaker 2: know is they asked the person and the person says,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, my last drink was at whatever bar.
Speaker 2: But by definition they're schnockered, and by statistics they're probably not.
Speaker 3: From around there.
Speaker 2: I would hate to think that a bar gets letters
Speaker 2: from the PD about we arrested this person for drunk
Speaker 2: driving and you were the last bar and they weren't.
Speaker 3: But in any event, the hope is, they say.
Speaker 2: It's not putative, it's to maybe give them some information
Speaker 2: to see if maybe there's a pattern with some of
Speaker 2: their bartenders over serving people or maybe there's an opportunity
Speaker 2: to give some extra education to their bartenders and their
Speaker 2: security staff if they have it, and they just want
Speaker 2: to educate them about how often this is happening, because
Speaker 2: you know, bars don't want people to get so drunk
Speaker 2: that they can't drive. Bars don't want that, do they. Well,
Speaker 2: some people like it. They like this idea, and they're
Speaker 2: glad something's being done. Although to say they're glad something's
Speaker 2: being done is to imply nothing's being done. They were
Speaker 2: out there in full force arresting people for duys. It's
Speaker 2: not like they weren't doing anything. But some people are
Speaker 2: glad that they're doing everything they can think of to do,
Speaker 2: and other people they don't like it. For example, an
Speaker 2: owner of several restaurants down there, some very nice restaurants.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to name them because I'm I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to out anybody about anything, but these are these
Speaker 2: are some very nice restaurants in Laguna Beach owned by
Speaker 2: a particular person. And they said it's a bureaucracy and
Speaker 2: it's a waste of money and time, and and I
Speaker 2: want to say that this person has a point, and
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the point is because Laguna Beach
Speaker 2: gets so crowded with revelers.
Speaker 3: You're in a bar. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a bar in a group
Speaker 2: and had one person go up to the bar and
Speaker 2: order the drinks for the whole table and bring them back.
Speaker 3: Probably? So, how can a bartender.
Speaker 2: Keep track of how much a specific person is drinking
Speaker 2: if they're allowed to. I can't even believe. My mind
Speaker 2: just wet here, and you're gonna hate me for it.
Speaker 2: But if they're allowed to give one person a bunch
Speaker 2: of ds, they don't know if I give you four drinks?
Speaker 2: Are there four people at your table? Are there five
Speaker 2: people at your table with a designated driver?
Speaker 3: Are there two people? Is it just you?
Speaker 2: So one thing you could do? I can't believe I'm
Speaker 2: even pointing this out. And I'm not saying I endorse
Speaker 2: this because I don't think I do. I'd have to
Speaker 2: think about it. You could start to have a law
Speaker 2: that says one drink per human at the bar. You
Speaker 2: can receive one drink from a bartender at a time.
Speaker 2: If there are four of you at the table and
Speaker 2: you all want to drink, all four of you got
Speaker 2: to haul your keysters up to the bar and each
Speaker 2: of you orders their individual drink.
Speaker 3: Would it help? Maybe? Would we like it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Are Gary and Shannon next?
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