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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered, My guest
today is a rising star known for her versatility, passion,
and incredibly small frame. At just twenty one, she's already
an Avan Award winner and a proud speaker girl. Welcome,
Emma Rosie.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Holly. I'm so excited and happy
to be here today.
Speaker 2: Great, I'm so excited to have you here too. You know,
it's kind of a shame because I don't direct really anymore.
I don't ever get to meet like the new talent,
so I don't know like who's great, But I know
I can always call Speakler and be like who you
got that it would be good? And he was like
Ema Rosie, and I was like done yes.
Speaker 3: When he told me that he had the opportunity for
me to come on this show, I was super excited.
I've always seen your content, seen you at AVM from Afar,
and I'm so excited to finally meet you.
Speaker 4: And beyond, my.
Speaker 2: God, what's it like to be so disappointed now that
you met me here? No?
Speaker 3: Never, I would never be disappointed. You're so sweet, beautiful,
and I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, let's get started from the beginning because
you started in the industry right after high school.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did.
Speaker 2: So, was that like your plan while you were in
high school? Okay, so tell me about that.
Speaker 3: So my birthdays in January. So I turned eighteen the
winter of my senior year, and by that time, like
the fall before, I was like, oh, it's coming up.
Like I knew I was actually in school to be
an esthetician. My school had like a half day programmer.
I could do half day high school, half day trade school.
So I knew I was like hunting the seed and
building like a path to do esthetics. But that's not
what I truly wanted to do. I always knew I
wanted to do art, fashion or music. But once I
realized that I was almost going to be of age
to do porn and erotic art, I was like, oh, yeah,
that's exactly what I'm going to do when I graduate.
So during my senior year, I definitely knew I was
going to do that. I turned eighteen, I did some
research online, but I still was enjoying my life, like
being eighteen and enjoying my last year of high school.
My friends, my family, and I had talked to my
agent who I signed with my first agent, like right
away in that winter, but I didn't sign until that May,
and it was like a month before I graduated that
I signed with my first agency. And yeah, I just
was super excited because I also did have a long
term partner at the time, a boyfriend I was with
that had family in Sokol, so they were like, you
can move here when you graduate. So I had everything aligned,
like I can move to La. I had a foundation,
I can move with my boyfriend and his family. And
I knew I could do porn because I had the
agent that I found, so I had all the doors
open for me, and I really wanted to do it,
so I thought why not?
Speaker 2: So how did you jump from the idea of doing
like fashion, music, and art to porn? Because there is
an element of all of those things in porn, But
I think most people wouldn't think like there would be
that yeah, jump, I mean there must have been like
some other thoughts underneath that.
Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, there definitely is like a part of me
that is so strongly drawn and passionate about erotic art, Like, yes,
I have all the other things, but I from a
very young age always just felt super comfortable and like
just lit up and happy, like just with anything that
is like naked erotic sexual, and so I thought it
would just be the perfect outlet for me to do
a porn to like express that part of myself, and
it's only helped me learn more about that part of
myself and grow.
Speaker 2: Did you ever worry that, like doing porn would basically
prevent you from exploring any of those other interests.
Speaker 3: Of course I did have that limitating thought, but I
didn't let it stop me because I know that's just
like kind of an intrusive thought of fear. Like I
know that I can do anything, and I'm capable of anything,
and I can push boundaries even if they haven't been
pushed before.
Speaker 2: And the world is changing, like you are seeing what
you know some would call mattress actresses like moving into mainstream,
getting me from brand deals and stuff. So this is
a time where there's a lot of shift happening. So
who knows what the world's going to be like for
sex workers in ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's very exciting I'm very grateful for
the time that, like I joined the industry. I feel
like it's a very like exciting changing time.
Speaker 2: Now, you said you had a long term boyfriend at
the time, so did he know about your plans?
Speaker 3: He did, yes, by the time time we started dating
in twenty twenty, So by the time I turned eighteen
in twenty twenty two, we had really been together for
two years, so we were very comfortable. We had a
very stable and good relationship. I was very grateful to
have that at such.
Speaker 4: A young age.
Speaker 3: And when I did turn eighteen, it wasn't that I
just wanted to start doing porn. I wanted to start
opening our relationship. And it kind of was like a
slow trickle at first. He started letting me just hook
up with other girls. Then we would hook up with
other girls together, and then we started doing swinging, like
right when I was eighteen, and so he was already
very comfortable with a more open relationship. And I told
him I wanted to do porn, and he was very
supportive about it, and yeah, I got very lucky he
was very supportive.
Speaker 2: So you moved to southern California, and you said that
you had that foundation that safety net of his family,
I did, did they know what you were moving out
to southern Calimornia to do?
Speaker 3: So? Luckily it was his like his mom lived in
New York where I was, so I already knew his mom.
I was moving in with his dad's family. And his
dad was a very chill, sweet guy. He worked in
the marijuana industry, so very like hippie, fun loving family.
Speaker 2: So another high risk industry. Yeah, yeah, problem, Yes, sure.
Speaker 3: I never directly told him, but I remember my ex
boyfriend's mom found out that's in New York and told
him just like as like like an awareness. She was like,
I don't know if you know, but like, because Emma's
living with you, this is what she's doing. But he
was like, oh, I kind of assumed, and he was
just he's never never said anything about it, So yeah,
I think he assumed and he never said anything about that.
Speaker 2: What about your family?
Speaker 3: My family found out pretty early on as well, My
mom or maybe a family member sent her. But they
found my Twitter before I even had like followers, Like
they just saw Emma Rosie xxx, and I was like, oh, okay,
they found out right away. I thought it would take
a little longer. My mom was definitely upset. First of all,
she thought I was going to be an esthetician, so
she was disappointed and also just like, yeah, you'd.
Speaker 2: Be getting facials instead of giving.
Speaker 4: Them similar.
Speaker 3: Well, but yeah, she was upset, and like my aunts
were upset. My mom's one of five girls, so I
have all like aunts, and the only people that didn't
know and still don't know are my grandparents. And yeah,
they were honestly very hard on me at first. They
banned me from that Christmas that year, I wasn't allowed
to fly home to New York. My mom wasn't really
the leader of that. She tried to advocate for me.
It was mostly the sisters, my aunts, but luckily they
got over it and now they just kind of deal
with it. But they had to go through their own
growing pains and acceptance. And what I'm just grateful for
is me and my mom a really good friendship and relationship.
And she says she accepts it, but she doesn't understand it,
which I value because I understand like from her point
of view, I'm her baby girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did what do you think like change their minds?
Because I hear a lot from girls when their parents
find out and they get upset. They like the first
thing I hear is like sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly what my mom said.
Speaker 2: They told my friends that they were like forced into.
Speaker 3: It, which made me so upset, Like I felt like, oh,
like I'm so sad that you think I'm unsafe, Like
I never would want her to think that I was
in danger or unsafe, but honestly, I feel like it
was just she had to like accept it with time.
Speaker 4: But also the first time.
Speaker 3: I didn't go to AVN the first year of my career,
which would have been AVN twenty twenty three, but I
went to AVN after I'd been in the industry for
a year, which was AVN twenty twenty four. And after
going there and like showing her just like how professional
and how like everyone's coming together, and how like it's
a big community that's like so like so professional and
so well rounded. It's not just like cheap and like dangerous.
I feel like after I showed her AVM for the
first time and when I went, she kind of grew
more comfortable and also seeing that I could take care
of myself and I'm being responsible and I'm safe and
I'm taking care of my body and my mind. She
was like, Okay, well it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what she thought it would be. Yeah,
got it. So tell me about your first scene. Who
did you work with and do you remember what brand
it was for?
Speaker 3: Yes, my first scene is dar in my heart. It
will always be because I was still in high school.
I remember I had signed with my agent the May
of twenty twenty two and I was going to wait
till I moved to LA officially to do my first scenes.
Speaker 4: But he asked me.
Speaker 3: He was like, you know, we could have you do
two scenes in Phoenix and you could make some money
and just like and then start working consistently once you move.
Speaker 4: So I remember, I was like, how can I do this?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: How can I fly in Phoenix? My mom can?
Speaker 3: And he was like, we could do it on like
a Saturday, on a Saturday and Sunday and then you
fly home and you'll get home by like Monday morning.
Because I actually did have school that Monday morning. So
I planned it where I told my mom.
Speaker 2: I lied to her.
Speaker 3: I said I was going on a girl shrip to
mom talk for the weekend, and I got the flights
books and everything, and it was for the companies exploited
college girls ex cookie and backroom couch casting, I believe. Yeah,
I was super excited and my agent ex agent asked me,
he was like, do you want to do anal for
one of them? And I hadn't done anal at all yet, Like,
no anal in my personal life only like a lot
of fingers up the butt. I did a lot of
anal play during like sex, but never the actual thing.
Speaker 2: I just sorry, that is not you doing anal. She
shouldn't have been the agent. Not about your career long term.
It's like a short term cash exactly, because you should
have recognized that you don't do that right away. You
build up to that. You get a name, and then
you get a company depend to spend a lot of
money for you to do your first anal, or you
do it for your own right exact platform.
Speaker 4: I wish I knew that. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sim morning and I wanted the money, and I honestly
I was like, it would be cool to lose my
an virginity on camera for the first time. And because
I knew that, like I could do it, but I
just like honey, and I was like, no, I didn't
have that thing that I was like the incentive that
I would always have it on camera and that would
be for my first scene.
Speaker 4: Like that kind of pushed me like, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: To do an So I did some prep and but
I didn't I definitely didn't realize like how much I
would like it. I wasn't sure if I'd like it,
but yeah, so I had to fly to Phoenix, I
told my mom, was with my friends. I remember I
was so excited, so nervous, like shaking, like in a
good way. I had such intense butterf I couldn't believe
it was finally happening. And the first scene wasn't the
anal one. The first scene was the exploited college Girls one,
and I still remember sitting in the little hotel doing
makeup with the makeup arts that I'm still friends with,
and then getting driven to the set and every little
detail I remember, and I remember they.
Speaker 4: Were like, are you okay?
Speaker 3: You're shaking because I just get like nervous, excited, like
even if I know, like I'm ready to do this,
I'll still shake a little bit. And the first scene
was amazing, I did just like a lot of toys
and it was just regular amazing sex, no anal and
they were so sweet. There was like five people on set.
I'm still friends with the male talent that I did
my first scene with. Who was it it was he
goes By? It goes by like Mitch, I don't know what.
He's married to this model named Megan Marks goes By
fitsub okay, And there's such a sweet couple and I
would like later in my career go and see them
in Phoenix. My contact with them, and they're just such
a sweet couple. But yeah, luckily he was my male
town the next day, so it made me comfortable, like
knowing I would see him the next day and he
would do anal with me, and the scenement amazing. I
remember I squirted it for the first time because he
made me square.
Speaker 4: With his figures.
Speaker 2: Did you know what it was?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: I just didn't think I could.
Speaker 2: Okay, because girls like think that they paid.
Speaker 4: Yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know girls who've like literally squirted
it on set and like ran to the bathroom like embarrassed,
and I've had to like go to the bathroom like
that was that was a good thing. Yeah, he squirted
like people pay extra money for that, Like fine, come
on out, like they good, very good thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I did the first scene, and then the
next day I did the anal scene, which I remember
was intense for me. I was like, I did have
a few moments where I was like, oh, can I
do this, like cleaning out my asshole, wondering am I
going to be able to? But I ended up having
a super fun time. I remember I did such a
happy dance in the mirror after. I was like, oh
my god, I'm so proud of you. And I just
kept thinking about the whole time I was there doing
the scenes. I kept thinking about what my life would
be like once I moved to LA and could fully
uncopsle myself and being a porn star. And luckily since
then it's all gone beautifully And yeah, my first two
scenes will always have such a special place in my heart.
Speaker 2: That's great that you had a good experience, because that's
obviously not everybody's story, and that always makes me sad
because you want to start off on the right foot
because it can color your opinion of the industry because
it's builled with all different kinds of people, good people
and bad people, like anybody exact means. So you're twenty.
Speaker 4: One now, yeah, I'm twenty one.
Speaker 2: So question for you, and this is something that comes
up a lot. I mean, you're only two years older,
but you started at eighteen. You started young. Do you
feel like you were ready Because a lot of people
think that like eighteen year old aren't ready to get
into they should raise the age.
Speaker 3: I've heard that a lot, and I just feel like,
for me, I definitely was ready, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's tricky because I obviously I want to look out
for everyone's well being mind, body, soul.
Speaker 4: So I don't even know what I would.
Speaker 3: Say my opinion on is like is on raising the
age because I feel like I was ready. But I'm
me and I've had my own life experiences that have
shaped me to make the decisions I make and have
the discernment I use in my decision making. But I
know that's a blessing for me to have. Not all
people have that coming into the industry.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you have to have like
an overall opinion, but like you can speak from your
own experience because it isn't the same for everybody. Yeah,
and I'm of I have like I'm of two minds
about it. Like I understand the concern about starting young
because it is something that will change your life for
the rest of your life, and not everybody does research
when they come in and it sounds like you were
prepared and you really thought about this, and you know
what I mean. But also it's like if we as
a society decide that eighteen you're an adult, and then
you're an adult, you know what I mean, Like if
you can go to war and die, then yeah, you're
at eighteen for your country, you can do porn. Yeah,
It's just like you can't like it can't be one
or the other. It's like do you are you an
adult or are you not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like I would say, like I I
because if they were to raise it, then I don't
know where I'd be, Like like say I wasn't able
to do it, then I'm like hmmm, but yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you're you know, if you had
a good experience, and you had a good experience, I
mean I know a lot of other girls who are
really big names now who started at eighteen that feel
like they made the right choice, like a bellow danger
or if you're gray. So it's definitely not saying that
applies to every buddy. But I think ultimately what it
is is there's not a lot of porn literacy out there.
There's not like a one website that you can go
to that is like gives you all of the information
in one place. Actually, I don't even know what would
you find, Ernie. I'm curious if you Google, Like I
don't know what would it be, like how to get
into porn or like what like what comes up? Like
what is the website that even comes up? I don't
even know, because I feel like maybe some company like
paid to be at the top of Google Search so
that like girls would see I'd be like, Okay, I'm
gonna work with that company, you know what I mean.
I just feel like there's not really a lot of
information where people can go to one place and be like, Okay,
these are all the things I need to think about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's not. There's a wiki three ways to
be a Porn Star, So wiki how I don't know
if people are on that, but like, how do you
become a porn star on a subreddit.
Speaker 3: So I've thought about, like, how like someone in the
industry should like make just a YouTube video, like I
actually really yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's for guys because I get that question
from guys so much, like.
Speaker 3: Abella or someone or could kazume me or like someone
anyone I could.
Speaker 2: I actually I should do one for girls because I
could literally take clips of this podcast and put it
in there, because like so many girls give advice from
different perspectives, which I think is really valuable. Yes, yeah,
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all right, Emma, So it took you some time to
get widespread attention in the industry. I know that sometimes
girls come in and they expect or hope that they're
going to become a big star, like immediately, like within
the first few months. It takes time. How was that
experience for you? Were there ever moments that you felt discouraged, like,
oh my god, am I ever gonna make it? How
did you stay motivated?
Speaker 3: I definitely had moments where I was like questioning if
it was worth living so far from my family because
I'm always like missing them, and I'm like, is this
worth it? Because like, yeah, it did take me like
a year or two to get my name out there
to get with certain companies, but it was never about
the growth of my name. I feel like I always
had like really good, like little wins along the way
that just kept me motivated, like oh, I got to
work with this company or I worked with this person,
and I just yeah, I honestly haven't felt discouraged from that.
The most I get discouraged is like, is it worth
it to live across the country just for this missing
like my cousin's birthdays, missing grandparents Ann's birthdays, like But
at the end of the day, it is because now
at twenty one, almost twenty two, I found a really
good balance.
Speaker 2: Was there any one moment or any scene you did,
or any booking that you got, or even just some
opportunity where you felt like, Okay, this means I'm getting somewhere,
or this solidifies my place in the industry.
Speaker 3: Once things just start to pick up more like consistently,
like I would I would have bookings be like less consistent,
like I'd have a busy month and a slow month
and a busy month. But once I, like every month
started getting super busy, like around a year ago last fall,
I was like, okay, like I'm always booked and busy,
I'm always working with big companies.
Speaker 2: Is that when you signed with Speakler, No, it was
like shortly before when your career picks up.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was last Yeah, it was like October I worked.
I hadn't worked like an example of it took a
while for my name to get out their New Biles,
Like I was always very perfect model for new Biles,
but they didn't book me until last fall, which I
had been in my career for two years, so they
booked me for the first time. Immediately were like, we
want to make your contract star. So during that then
I was so busy because like they said that in
October twenty twenty four, and they wanted me to start
being their contract start of this year January twenty twenty five.
So those last few months of the year were so
busy because I knew I wouldn't work with any company
for a long time. So it was definitely last year
when I got the contract. Yeah, I was like, okay,
I'm good, like porn likes me, I'm set.
Speaker 2: Are you still under contract with them?
Speaker 3: No, it was only the first three months.
Speaker 4: Of the year.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, A lot of companies
do that where it's like because you're new and you
can get it, they can get a lot of content exactly.
Speaker 3: It was fun because I had AVM during it too,
so I was representing them during them during AVM twenty
twenty four or twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Sorry, so you have mentioned earlier that you're like artistic.
You've also said that you're spiritual and passionate. How do
those sides of you show up in your work?
Speaker 3: I feel like they show up in my work in
different ways. It depends what type of work I'm doing.
Like in a porn scene, obviously I'm being crazy, like
in a gonzo scene, it's hard to be artistic. But
I feel like, just like the way I show up
and do everything, Like I feel like on my body,
I've are everywhere. So when I'm sucking dick, I still
have like be here now on my hand and it's still.
Speaker 4: There, and I yeah, like I still have my life,
my peace side, my yinging.
Speaker 3: But when I do get to do like more like
acting and like scripted scenes, I do feel like my
artistics side comes out because I like to encapsule myself
in whatever character or situations going on. And also whenever
I get to like pick outfits or styling, it definitely
shows my artistic side.
Speaker 2: I can tell that you're definitely into thank you this podcast.
Like in Sweatpants, No, I get it, Like I.
Speaker 3: Always love to wear cute outfits. I used to want
to go to f I T So Fashion in another
life was definitely my career. But yeah, I'm still learning
how to like express myself in different ways in like
different platforms and avenues.
Speaker 2: I will tell you, like, the adult industry is definitely
lacking stylists. There's not a lot yeah stylists. I agree,
So just saying that, Yeah, you know, if you ever
want to transition to something else, there's really like that
is a good idea. Not that many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's only a few times I've
been on set where there's an actual stylust which I
really value.
Speaker 2: Which I love also because most companies can't afford it unfortunately.
So obviously you're you're very petite. How do you take
care of your body like during and after shoots? Like
do you feel a lot of wear and tear and
how do you manage that?
Speaker 3: Luckily, I don't feel a lot of wear and tear.
I definitely take care of my body, like very consistently
and intentionally. I practice a lot of ire Veda practices
like ton scraping, oil pulling, dry brushing.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is that you have to enlighten me? I
don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: Ireveda is just like it's a way I forget the
actual definition, but it's it's like it has health practices
that I learned about through aesthetics when I was going
to be an esthetician, And a lot of people do
it that aren't into ovator, But I feel like tongue
scraping is something that everybody needs to do in the industry.
I don't get why everyone doesn't bring a tongue scraper
to set, Like why wouldn't you scrape your tongue?
Speaker 2: You you're I'm I'm laughing because like the idea of
everyone bringing a tongue scraper to set is sort of funny,
but it's also like true, Like I mean, I brushed
my tongue. I had a tongue.
Speaker 4: Scraper, but they're just so valuable.
Speaker 2: My husband has like a copper one. Yeah, like really good,
Like it's like a little it's very fancy. It's like
like tongue scraper. I don't touch it.
Speaker 4: It's the best.
Speaker 3: It really helps with digestion too, Like it's like because
digestion starts when you eat yehod.
Speaker 4: So apparently it's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But also oil pulling, like you keep oil in your
mouth and it helps kill so much bacteria, so much drive.
Speaker 4: You can use cocoa nut. I use coconut.
Speaker 2: I think avocado and like fractionated coconut oil, like they're
already melted, okay.
Speaker 3: Or not, or you could do it work because it
would melt in your mouth anyway, so it would be like,
but I do coconut and then I'm always doing scrubs
for exfoliation, meditation. I'm working out, going, running a lot
of baths. I love baths. Baths are like Santex for me,
Like they're so relaxing, praying, sleeping, eating, well, stretching. I've
always been a very athletic person, so I think that's
why my body does very well in port because it's
very athletic and I'm always doing crazy things.
Speaker 4: Yeah it works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're what they call a spinner.
Speaker 4: Yes, the spinner.
Speaker 2: Your spinner is like a spetitue girl and they generally
are paired with like guys with large penises because it
makes it look even bigger. Like you mean, it's like
spinner and deal like kind of crazy shit. So you
mentioned praying, so like what does that mean to you?
Are you religious? Are you spiritual? How does that manifest
itself in your life?
Speaker 3: I definitely am religious and spiritual. I get like very
shy and like embarrassed because like, yes, I am a
porn star. I do crazy things, I say very crazy things.
But I was raised in a very Catholic family and
I went to cathlic school most of my life, and
I definitely had a phase where I was repulsed by it.
I was like, I don't want this, don't shove it
down my throat. And then I had a stage in
my life where I was kind of awakened back in
spirituality thanks to like Hinduism, Buddhism, and just like New
age pagan practices in general. And that brought me back
to like being like soul, like connected to my soul, praying,
connected to source. And then I came back to my
Catholic roots and I started getting very connected.
Speaker 4: I know, it's so weird that I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking about it the first person. Honestly, you're not the
first person. You're religious and you do porn too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I came back to my Catholic roots
and like praying the Rosary and go sometimes I go
to Mass if I can, but it's just something that
I like, it keeps me grounded. It keeps me connected
to my family, to my soul, to the universe. And
it's nothing like that's a one straight road. I'm like,
I'm not like Catholic, you know. I just I feel
very connected to Catholic traditions because my family did them
growing up. And yeah, so I definitely pray a lot.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense because I have found that
the girls who have the healthiest relationship with porn and
honestly with life right like, had that element of spirituality,
have that ability to reflect, to meditate, to be quiet,
to maybe maybe believe in something bigger than themselves, have
that kind of like you know, faith is like one
of those things that I think can be seeing a
certain way where it's like only religious, but I don't
think that that's necessarily the case. Like for me, like
faith is like everything's gonna be okay. Yeah, it doesn't
feel here right now, but like it is, and you
just have to move forward with that belief and then
like those things will come to you because you have
an energy and your energy attracts people and it attracts opportunities.
And it makes sense that you know, Catholicism has you know,
a lot of traditions and they are, and I'm sure
that growing up in that that would make sense that
coming back to that just feels more like you're connecting
to your family and like your childhood and your roots
as opposed to necessarily you know, believing Catholicism, Like buy
the book.
Speaker 3: I'm very grateful that I have all of those like
things that helped me just like keep faithful because yes,
there's so many crazy things in the world in general
and just in the porn industry. So definitely, I feel
like that's helped me like not get frustrated and discouraged.
Also because I'm like, at the end of the day,
like I'm here in this moment and that's all that matters.
Speaker 4: Now he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's easy to spin out in fear.
It happens to me a lot. Yeah, Like I'll get
to this stage and I'll just start spinning out, and
I'll start thinking about all this and also thinking about
horrible things that could happen that like are very unlikely
to happen, but my brain just goes down that path.
And I think those are the moments where like do
you need that grounding to pull you back, and yeah,
I think that's.
Speaker 3: Why I say I am God's fucked All, because because
I feel like it's such an important part of me.
But at the same time, like I'm for everybody, I'm
God's fucked All. But I'm also just I love the universe.
Speaker 2: So would you ever be like, because you know there
are some scenes where they'll do like religious scenes where
yah use Catholicism and sometimes in a negative way, do
you ever like worry about those are reservations around?
Speaker 3: No, I've done lots of like shoot erotic photo shoots
like none outfits or with my rosaries, like I'll do
photo shoots with family heirloom rosaries with their naked on
me because I I do have like this intuition and
just knowing that my ancestors are like they're blessed, they
have their blessing on all the things I'm doing.
Speaker 4: I just I know it.
Speaker 2: I like that. Okay, So you won your first Avian
Award recently for the best trans one on one scene.
Who was that with? For what company? And how did
it feel when you won?
Speaker 3: It was with the beautiful and tented Jade Venus, and
it was for I believe it was. It was directed
and filmed by Jim Powers. It was for adult time,
so I forget which side it was because he was
he is.
Speaker 2: I had never met him until I had him on
my podcast, Like I've known that name forever, and I feel.
Speaker 4: So grateful to know him.
Speaker 3: People like him and Pat My and like Mike Quais are,
Oh my god, Chris Dreams. I feel so grateful to
know all the veterans. But yes, I remember when I
was filming that scene, I was like, when Jade, there's
this part where Jade picks me up at the fridge
and we started making out.
Speaker 4: I was like, that was so good.
Speaker 3: This is gonna win an award because it just felt
so romantic, so real, but so sexy, and then when
we finally did get to the sex, it was just amazing.
But yeah, I think it was for like trans X Films.
I forget what the actual site was, but I remember
it was an anal scene and it was like supposed
to be a slumber party and it was my first
time meeting Jaye, and she was so sweet and we
just hit it off immediately, lots of chemistry. So once
we were actually filming, it was super fun. And when
I saw got nominated. I was like, oh, okay, and
we were up against like some amazing performers, amazing lineups
and scenes. So I was like, I honestly didn't think
I would win because we would win, because like, we
were up against some amazing scenes. But when I did win,
I was like so shocked and excited and happy for us.
I'm grateful and yeah, it was surreal, but I still
always remember that moment.
Speaker 2: Do you have any particular performers that you really feel
like you have good chemistry with?
Speaker 3: Mmm, I honestly a lot of performers. It's rare that
I don't have chemistry with someone, but like the most chemistry.
I have a lot of chemistry with like dilts, like
Charles Darra, we have a lot.
Speaker 2: Against I love. I love him, he's great.
Speaker 3: I recently worked with someone for the first time, Jason
Cincarelli or something, I forget it, but he's another DiPT.
I feel like Vince Carter obviously, he's amazing.
Speaker 2: Do you like older men like in personal life?
Speaker 3: Yes, well I wouldn't date an older man, but I
like having sex with older men.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, why would you not date an older man?
Speaker 3: I like to date people that are like three to
seven eight years older than me, not too far away
from my age.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you've I mean that generational gap can sometimes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did dabble in it.
Speaker 3: I did. That's why I already have dated older men
since I was eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know I always loved older men, and
now that I'm old, I'm like older men are now
like eighty. For me, it's I'm married. My husband's actually
younger than me, which is ironic. I never excited that.
But question on that, then, actually, do you think that
you would ever date a fan?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like to me, like there would just be
a person like if they checked all my boxes, we
had good chemistry, we had connection, then yes, like it
wouldn't matter that they're a fan. It would just like
they would need to be at least in a good
age Ranche, we have good chemistry. But yeah, them being
a fan wouldn't be a deal breaker.
Speaker 2: But how would they even because it feels like how
would they even like approach you? Right, because it's like
if a fan comes up to you at a convention
and ask for your number, the chances are you are
not going to give it to them, but you could
meet them in a more casual situation, introduced by friends
or things, and they could be like, oh my god,
I'm actually like a fan of yours. Is that kind
of like what you're thinking? More along those lines, a
fan like write to you on OnlyFans? And potentially maybe
it would depend.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe if I met someone in a natural way, like
they saw me at like a cafe or a bar
or restaurant and they're like, I know who you are,
but also do you want to hang out?
Speaker 2: Maybeeah? So if it was like outside.
Speaker 3: Outside of a word, yeah, like av I'm probably no,
because then in my head, I'm like, if one person
sees me give my number, then they'll wonder why can't
she give a number to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it's a strange place too, it is somebody there. Yeah. Yeah.
What do you think sets you apart as a performer?
Speaker 3: That's a good question because we all are so unique
and different, everyone in this industry. I think what sets
me apart like everybody else, my experiences getting to hear
what shaped me growing up and in my life. I
think it just made me super strong, focused. Yeah, I
think just who I am because no one's been through
what I've been through, and I haven't been through what
everyone else has been through.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're all different and special in our own Yes,
do you have like a signature mover like position that
like you are known for would like to be known for?
Or are you just like able to be lifted and
spun and like a ton of fun directions.
Speaker 3: I definitely am always put in like crazy positions, but
I do like when I I it's only happened a
few times. That's why I'm like, it doesn't happen enough
because they usually want a cumpshot on my face or
somewhere else, but sometimes or like not in this position.
But I really like when I'm getting fucked in pile
Driver and they creampie me, and then I pushed the
cream pie out and it falls in my face, so
I get a facial. Also, like I give myself a facial.
Speaker 2: Because I'm like trying to think how that because I'm
impile Driver, Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I guess are
you like can you how close can your mouth come
to your vagina in that position?
Speaker 3: Like not very like there's a jiff of it, So
I'm trying to think, but like the.
Speaker 4: My vagina's here and like, my head's.
Speaker 3: Here, so I just push it and it falls drips
offto my face.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody like it in like the twenty
seven years I've been in this industry, I've never I
don't think I've ever shot a cumpshot like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I really like it, and I've done
it a few times. I haven't seen anybody anywhere else.
Speaker 2: So I feel like this is your signature move.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be.
Speaker 2: I have to come up with a name for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will. I'll get back to you on it.
Speaker 2: GPT I could sometimes come up with great titles. So
you're also a Spegler girl, which you know, and if
you don't know who Spegler is, you've clearly not been
watching my podcast for very long, because he comes up
a lot, because he's considered one of the best agents
in the industry. He's been around the longest, and you know,
to be a Speakler girl is a prestigious thing. I
think most people feel. How did that come to be
for you?
Speaker 3: So I actually didn't know about Spiegler coming into the
industry when I was a brand new porn girl, but
once I did learn about it, I was like, oh,
like that's a goal for me, Like I want to
be with Spiegler because he can help me grow the most,
help me open doors. And also just I admire all
the girls with him already. It's very prestigious and I
love that. And I also value the discipline, like I
really I like to be in a rigorous discipline setting.
Speaker 2: Definitely a discipliner.
Speaker 3: So I when I did sign up my first agent,
I did sign a three year contract. So I was
in that contract between May twenty twenty two and May
twenty twenty five, and it was a year ago May
November fall of twenty twenty four where I knew like,
oh the spring is coming up, I'm almost done.
Speaker 4: I knew I wanted to be at Spiegler.
Speaker 3: So I did my networking and chatting with people, and
it was actually a makeup artist that helped me, and
she's like, you know, like you should just like email
him and call him like.
Speaker 4: Six months before you're out of your contract.
Speaker 3: So I did that, which was a year ago, like
almost it was November, and it was around a via
nominations and around where I got offered the contract deal.
So I had a long call with George and we
talked and I thought things were going well, and he
told me he was like, Okay, well come say hi
with the AVN nominations and we'll go from there. Because
obviously I couldn't do anything until I was out of
my contract with my old agent. So the first time
I met them was November nominations for AVM in twenty
twenty four, and I was so nervous because I was
just like, oh my gosh, I had to go up
to the table with all the Spiegler girls and like
they're just sitting there.
Speaker 4: It was so intimidating. I was so nervous, but luckily
I got through. I went up there.
Speaker 3: I didn't actually know what like George looked like because
I never met him, so I accidentally was talking to
someone else. I was like, are you George, and they're like, no,
I knew the speaker was Thanklesness.
Speaker 2: So there is a very can't miss looking at ye.
Nobody else looked like.
Speaker 3: And I had very light conversation with spiegeler like conversation
with George. He did tell me he was like, I'm
very grateful you kept your word. That means a lot
to me that you came up and said Hi, So I.
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, good. Then the new year started, avn happened.
Speaker 3: I did my contract deal with Nobiles, I won my
first award. I always stayed like in contact, just like
wishing them happy holidays, like saying hello at events. And
then the spring came and I it was May, and
I was like I was just touching bass and I
just wanted to make sure that they knew I was
still interested. So I set up a meeting, like I
think it was five days before my contract was officially done.
And the meeting went very well. And then my old
agent actually had a call with George. So it was
kind of like she like she had she had given
me her blessing too. She was like, I'm proud that
I shaped you and molded you and helped you grow
to be a speaker girl. And so once they had
that phone call, and it was May seventeenth, I got
a call and Mark was like, You're on the site,
and I was like, no worry, because I couldn't believe it.
I was like wow, And ever since then, it's pin
a dream come true. I can't even express how grateful
I am to Mark and George and my old agent
for getting me there of Veronica, She's amazing. But yeah,
so I'm just grateful that it all worked out because
it definitely was my dream. Once I realized Speaker was
the best of the best, I was like, I need
to be there, and I got recommendations from companies and directors.
So I'm grateful for everyone helping me get there.
Speaker 2: What's the best thing about being a Speaker girl?
Speaker 3: I love the consistency of the work and the quality
of all the companies I'm working with. It's just it's
the best. Like I'm a workhorse. I love working a lot,
so I'm always booked and I'm always booked with amazing
talent and amazing companies that are doing really cool videos.
Speaker 4: So that's what I love.
Speaker 2: So question for the fans out there, what sex advice
would you give to men who maybe feel like they're,
you know, falling short and the love love department? Like,
what is the one thing that men just don't get right?
Speaker 3: My advice for any men struggling, Like, if you just
feel like you could be better in bed and sex,
I think it really does come within, like you have
to be confident and secure in yourself. But also like
if you're pressing anything don't just like let it all out,
like you have nothing to be shy or embarrassed about.
Everyone has sexual desire, so whatever the song as a
safe and consensual whatever you desire, just let your partner know,
tell them what you want, what you need, but also
ask them what they want, what they need. Communicating is
so important. But yeah, like, just believe in yourself. You're
a sexy monster.
Speaker 4: You got it?
Speaker 2: What about PENI sizes is that important?
Speaker 3: I don't like big dicks, like really big dicks.
Speaker 2: Like well and also big dicks for you or bigger
than big dicks for me?
Speaker 3: True, Like I like, I like long, like I definitely
like length, Like I like a good long dick kind
of like a dagger, Like I like it long with
like a big tip at.
Speaker 5: The end.
Speaker 2: Dagger. Yeah, I wouldn't that be more of an arrow
because a daggers get sharper at the.
Speaker 3: End, true, or like yeah, something like yeah it's an
arrow an arrow because yeah, I like big tips a lot,
but size doesn't matter too much to me now because like, yeah,
I've worked with big dicks that I enjoy, but they
give me cramps, so I can't take them all the time.
Like if I were to have a boyfriend, I would
need it to be more Yeah, not as massive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's boyfriend Dick and there's vacation.
Speaker 4: Exactly boyfriend Dick.
Speaker 2: So do you, like, is there an average size that
you prefer, because guys always want to hear numbers because
they were like.
Speaker 3: I'm really bad at numbers. I don't know what the
numbers are, but like I think eight inches or is that.
Speaker 2: That's pretty big? The average guys five point five inches?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like seven or eight?
Speaker 2: Probably you feel like a seven. Yeah, I'm looking at
you and I feel like a seven is what you're going.
Speaker 3: For because I'm like just trying to think of what
seven inches looks like it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So where do you see yourself five years
in the industry? Do you have any big goals that
you want to hit or you just kind of going
to see like where life takes you, or do you
have a very specific plan.
Speaker 3: Five years in five years in the future in the industry.
I in five years, I hope to have at least
directed one or two of my own movies, porn movies
where I produced my own music for it, as well
as do all the casting and styling and screenwriting.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that you are a workhouse. That's a lot
of work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It's very ambitious because right now I'm trying to start
my music career. So I definitely never want to leave
porn completely. I always want to keep erotic themes and
keep doing erotic work. But music is like my number
one passion above everything. So I feel like in five years,
if I keep on working with my music, I will
have my music like career booming. But also by then
hopefully I could put it together and make porno with
music and yeah, and as well be in it well.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing too, like a lot of it's
hard to find royalty free music that it's actually okay
for porn. Yeah, if you go on a lot of
those sites, if you look at the fine print, most
of them say like you can't use it for porn. Yeah,
a lot of people don't realize that.
Speaker 3: I realized that because yeah, people on like if you
post audio on Twitter, you can't post any music on it.
Speaker 2: But even like those like sites where you can like
license music, like audio network, I think audio Networks actually
like one of the only ones that is okay with
the pod I think, yeah, because I know that I've
used them before and they knew what I was doing
and it was fine. But like a lot of them
are like you look at the fine print, Yeah, you
know it for porn. A lot of people don't make
music for porn. Yeah, and you know otherwise. I think
when a lot of people think about like music for porn,
I think about really bad old seventies music like the dad,
Like the song my dad wrote for one of my mom's.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's amazing, so bad.
Speaker 2: I should find a clip for it and try to
play it on here, because it's the beginning of one
of my mom's movies called stud Hunters, and it's like
stud Hunters and need some hardcore love. Didn't you hear
that or any when you were like doing the audio
recording for my mom's book, Oh man, my dad wrote
that song. It's so terrible things like that, so bad,
but it's like awesome because it's so bad. Yes, very
seventies like terrible love music, like exactly, like the kind
of awful music that you would think would be important.
So when you do music, like, are there specific instruments,
like what is that? Because I don't know anything about music,
so I don't know what that means exactly.
Speaker 3: For me, I just am a vocalist, so I'm trying
to learn how to produce around music on Logic Pro
and then I'm trying to learn this other.
Speaker 4: Interface.
Speaker 3: Yes, I sing, and right now I am networking with musicians.
I'm hoping I can find musicians to start a band
with so then I can know more instrumentalists. And yeah,
so that's why I'm like five years yes, because this
year I've only started right now trying to be super
disciplined in the music because I've been super disciplined and
important everything. But now I'm like, okay, start like start
making moves in music. So definitely twenty twenty six, I'll
be focused on music important balanced.
Speaker 2: What kind of music do you want to make?
Speaker 3: I want to make It's very difficult to describe because
it's like a whole mix. I love jazz and soulful music,
but I also like soultry and rock, but I also
like EDM, so I kind of have a then a
mix of synth wave so or new waves. So it's
all over the place. But I'm still working on my
EP and probably won't be done until next year, like
the end of next year.
Speaker 2: So you've already started working on an album. Yes, wow, Yeah,
I have no musical talent. I played violin for two
years in elementary school and I never got any better.
It's pretty bad. So, but I admire people who have
talent with music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of great musicians in the industry,
in the porn.
Speaker 2: Industry, yeah, I love it, and like DJ is a
lot of people.
Speaker 4: Yeahs too.
Speaker 2: Going is that something that you think that you might
do as well or do you feel more rooted in.
Speaker 4: I probably won't DJ.
Speaker 3: I know, I've always thought about it because it'd be
cool to look all hot and DJ. Yeah, but I
definitely I want to like make music, yeah, song right,
and do the actual producing for it because songwriting is
easier for me. I've always been into poetry, screenwriting, songwriting,
like English was always my best subject. I like literature,
I love it, so that comes easy to me. But
it's more about since I don't play instruments and don't
have the technical knowledge right now on how to produce.
I'm still learning, so that's been my hardest thing right now,
but I'm getting through it.
Speaker 4: I'm learning.
Speaker 2: So then, can I ask you a question just because
it's all over the internet right now, and it probably
won't be by the time this comes out. But have
you listened to Taylor Swift's new album.
Speaker 4: I haven't haven't yet.
Speaker 3: I've been waiting too with my friend because she loves
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Did you yes?
Speaker 4: You love it?
Speaker 2: So I was never like I always thought she was fine.
I was never like a Taylor Swift like yeah, And
then I had a daughter and she started to like
Taylor Swift, and now like, I fucking love her.
Speaker 4: She's great.
Speaker 2: I've always been a slussy.
Speaker 3: Her album read when in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: I remember I was in third grade. I was obsessed
with it. Yeah, she's really.
Speaker 3: Talented and she's just like an amazing performer. Her and
Lady Gaga I admire so much. Lady Gaga is my
number one.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I found out that my mother in
law is like a huge Lady Gaga fan, which, like
you would never expect.
Speaker 4: It's so funny, So I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I got for Christmas. For her birthday, I got her.
I don't know why I'm telling this story, because who cares.
I got her a wooden spoon with like a Lady
Gaga pictace like burned into this.
Speaker 4: I love I would love that she loves.
Speaker 2: It's just like one of those weird things you find
on Etsy, and I was like, yeah, and she likes
Lady Gaga. Here you go.
Speaker 3: That's a great gift, super thoughtful.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know we we had like saved the
album on Spotify, my daughter and I so like the
minute it came out, we the way to school.
Speaker 4: Amazing. I'll listen to it on my home. I have to.
Speaker 2: I forgot it's good. I like it. Okay. So anything
this year that we should be looking out for that
is coming out, maybe something you already shot that hasn't
been released yet, or something that you know you're going
to be doing.
Speaker 3: I know that my first ever browser scenes are coming out.
I've never shop for browsers until the last few months,
so I have two scenes coming out for them, as
well as some great adult time shoots. The new Raunch series.
You have a scene for that which was really fun. Eh.
I've been shooting a lot, so just a lot of amazing, beautiful, fun, nasty,
crazy sex scenes. Obviously, I'm working on music, so I
do live performances here and there that I post about,
Like just of covers because yeah, I definitely am more
busy with.
Speaker 4: Porn right now.
Speaker 3: I've been working a lot with Ramera Multimedia Productions with
his like heent Eide Parasited Vampire, which is my favorite
thing to shoot because it's like cinematic mixed with gonzo.
So it's like my cup of tea and I cannot
wait for all those.
Speaker 4: To come out.
Speaker 3: Those are definitely what I'm most proud of are those scenes.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I was going to ask you for
those who maybe are just discovering you, where would you
direct them to, Like if they're like, Okay, I need
to watch a scene that she's in, Like, what would
you recommend they go watch?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like most of my scenes are on
like the platforms like X Videos and corn Hub, ex Hamster.
I know I have my accounts on there, but also
my Twitter. I'm always reposting them as well.
Speaker 2: But is there one particular scene that you feel like,
HM is a great representation of you and your art?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say, and it's just it's a crazy scene.
It is my hook UPOD shot scene with Rebel Rider.
I forget like what number series it was, but it's
a threesome me and Rebel Rider and Brian Gosling from
Hoco Pod Shot and it's just very crazy.
Speaker 2: His scenes are in gnarly Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely one of the craziest scenes I've done.
But what I like about it is that Rubble was
there another girl, and it has like girl girl in it,
but also crazy gonzo but also fashion because it's cute.
The only thing it's missing is the cinematic stuff that
I like, but that will be out eventually and then
I would have sent them there, but it's not out yet.
Speaker 2: So you just are going to have to wait, yeah,
for the best scenes. Follow her on Twitter, speaking of
and thank you so much for.
Speaker 4: Coming on of course, thank you.
Speaker 2: Can you let everybody know where they can find you
on social media? Ye are your handles?
Speaker 3: Of course, on Instagram it's going to be Emma Rosie Bean,
and then on Twitter it is Lil Lil tits t
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that's for Twitter.
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