Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2: I'm so nerding out right now that a half hour
Speaker 2: from now we get to talk to a veteran of
Speaker 2: the Rhodesian Bush War.
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble staying focused. My focus is just stay
Speaker 1: focused and don't shake your head.
Speaker 3: Chris, shut up, Chris.
Speaker 1: I love that we added that on there. That's my
Speaker 1: new favorite sound bite. Chris. I'm gonna text people about it. Well,
Speaker 1: did you get that email? Chris? From the guy?
Speaker 2: Sorry, we'll get back to politics in a minute. Somebody
Speaker 2: wrote in an email and had his kid or his
Speaker 2: nephew figure out how to put that. People be texting.
Speaker 2: It's now the text notification on his phone. Chris, Can
Speaker 2: you do that for me?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Corey? You can someone do that?
Speaker 1: Do you know how to do that? Is it?
Speaker 2: No one knows how to do that. We need some
Speaker 2: young people in this office. This is the problem. We
Speaker 2: need youngk what Chris, don't I have two kids? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I worry that they're more like me. You know what,
Speaker 2: James could probably do it. Oh, make James do it.
Speaker 2: He'll figure it out, all right. First of all, two
Speaker 2: good things before we get back to some other stuff. Headline,
Speaker 2: heg Seth, the Secretary of warptex Seth is planning a
Speaker 2: huge shakeup at the top of military command. That is
Speaker 2: incredibly important and necessary. As we were just discussing last hour,
Speaker 2: the long march through the institutions. Well, the communists didn't
Speaker 2: exempt the military from that. They wanted it, they knew
Speaker 2: they had to have it, and they went and got it.
Speaker 2: They attacked our military. We have so many commie generals,
Speaker 2: commie admirals, so many of them throughout our service academies
Speaker 2: now again doing what being subversive, fighting for the revolution.
Speaker 2: Cleaning them out is going to be a very long,
Speaker 2: very difficult process, and it is extremely necessary and I
Speaker 2: mean extremely necessary. So that's a good thing, something you
Speaker 2: can feel good about. Here's something else. The federal government
Speaker 2: has shed two hundred and seventy one thousand jobs this year.
Speaker 2: I know we have concerns. I know we have things
Speaker 2: that we want done, things that aren't being done. I
Speaker 2: get that. Then all that stuff is legitimate. Look, I
Speaker 2: just criticized everybody yesterday. Man, do you think we'd have
Speaker 2: gotten rid of two hundred and seventy one thousand federal
Speaker 2: government jobs? If Kamala Harris was president. No, we would not. No,
Speaker 2: we would not. Now I have to play this bit
Speaker 2: because it just makes me laugh. This is Zoran Mandhani.
Speaker 2: He's the incoming mayor of New York City talking about
Speaker 2: free buses center.
Speaker 3: We made five bus routes free in New York City.
Speaker 3: When we made those bus routes free, after a year,
Speaker 3: assaults on bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine
Speaker 3: percent on the bus driver. The bus drivers because unlike
Speaker 3: the train, the act of fair collection on the bus
Speaker 3: happens on the It's live, and.
Speaker 2: They are actually going to claim that bus drivers will
Speaker 2: get assaulted less when they make the bus free. Let's
Speaker 2: have a little chat, shall we before we get back
Speaker 2: to politics. And it's ugly to have this conversation, but
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm ugly wait on the inside. On
Speaker 2: the inside, I'm ugly, So let's have it. Access Access
Speaker 2: is h It's one of those things you need to
Speaker 2: monitor in life. And if you ever find yourself in
Speaker 2: a place that lets everybody in, you will find the
Speaker 2: biggest bunch of scumbags in low lifes in your area
Speaker 2: every single time. If you want to get me to
Speaker 2: not go somewhere, and you know I'm cheap. I'm not
Speaker 2: Jewish producer Chris cheap, but I'm cheap. If you want
Speaker 2: to guarantee that I will not go somewhere, make it
Speaker 2: free or and I've learned this lesson after forty four years,
Speaker 2: you're just gonna have to trust me. Or half price Day.
Speaker 2: They have this place here locally, and it's one of
Speaker 2: these kind of kids paradise places. They're all over the country,
Speaker 2: so you have one close to you as well that
Speaker 2: has a bowling and laser tag and arcade games and pizza.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kids paradise. Of course, we walked in
Speaker 2: that we had been there before. It took the boys there.
Speaker 2: Then it was a Wednesday, I believe. We went there
Speaker 2: with the boys and it was more scumbags and ghetto
Speaker 2: trash than you've ever seen in your entire life. Couldn't
Speaker 2: figure it out until we walked up to buy our
Speaker 2: tickets and they said, oh, hey, it's half price Day.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 2: They're going to make the buses free in New York
Speaker 2: City and it's going to be so freaking bad. It
Speaker 2: just there's nothing these people cannot ruin there's absolutely nothing
Speaker 2: these people cannot ruin. All right now, I'm going to
Speaker 2: play something for you. It's ilhan Omar, and I love
Speaker 2: that she's in so much pain right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is about by the way, this is about Trump's
Speaker 2: new travel band. He added a bunch of more Muslim
Speaker 2: countries to the travel band.
Speaker 4: The biggest worry of the new executive order is that
Speaker 4: it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for
Speaker 4: you as citizens to have their family members be able
Speaker 4: to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so
Speaker 4: this is a very cruel.
Speaker 2: Oh well, let me clarify. We don't want your family
Speaker 2: members here. We don't want them to visit. We certainly
Speaker 2: don't want them to live here. I don't want to
Speaker 2: smell a single one of ilhan Omar's family members. In fact,
Speaker 2: if I ever take power in this country, ilhan Omar
Speaker 2: in all of her family will not just be banned
Speaker 2: from this country. I'll do poor anybody they know who's
Speaker 2: in the country. That's how bad it's going to be
Speaker 2: one day. But again, the communists understand who's the bread
Speaker 2: and butter of their revolution. Here's Steve Cohen.
Speaker 5: They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in
Speaker 5: the country illegally. It's not right, but it's not necessarily
Speaker 5: something should cause deportation when they are not committing crimes
Speaker 5: and they are attributing to the economy.
Speaker 1: So that's a concern we have.
Speaker 2: They're arresting and deporting people for being in the country illegally.
Speaker 2: That is a controversial position for the modern Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: Oh, he had more to say.
Speaker 5: Memphis is not an immigration center of crimes from most
Speaker 5: of the people that are there that are immigrants, even
Speaker 5: if they did you come into the country illegally, most
Speaker 5: of them are working legally and doing a lot of
Speaker 5: important work in Memphis and construction industry, the tourism industry,
Speaker 5: and they're necessary and needed.
Speaker 1: They just prefer foreigners over you. It's pregernorable, frinorable.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jesse, thanks for the outstanding Another outstanding history lesson,
Speaker 2: this time about the Rhodesian Bush War. I am so
Speaker 2: disappointed in the West, especially the US, for failing to
Speaker 2: support Rhodesia against the black communist factions. I understand now
Speaker 2: why my long education never included this disgraceful debacle of
Speaker 2: a pop prosperous nation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. Look, that's why your.
Speaker 2: School teachers never taught you about Rhodesia because they were
Speaker 2: on the side of the communist terrorists who were butchering people.
Speaker 2: They were on the side they viewed them as as
Speaker 2: their kinsmen, the communist terrorists who destroyed a once beautiful,
Speaker 2: prosperous country. I know it's hard to accept, but there's
Speaker 2: a good chance your history teacher wants to do the
Speaker 2: exact same thing here and and will do anything in
Speaker 2: his or her power to make that happen. It's a
Speaker 2: terrible state of affairs. But this is why this stuff
Speaker 2: doesn't get taught in schools.
Speaker 1: Jesse.
Speaker 2: This is about healthcare costs. I now paid twenty seven
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year for good coverage for my family.
Speaker 1: Good grief.
Speaker 2: My pot is simmering and about to boil. The whole
Speaker 2: system seems so messed up, from the hospitals to the
Speaker 2: drug companies to the insurance providers. Can this ever get fixed?
Speaker 2: Are there ways to opt out of the system and
Speaker 2: into something that will cover a family without paying extra
Speaker 2: for abortions and trans grap and illegals. Paying for healthcare
Speaker 2: is now a full time job. It is unbelievable what
Speaker 2: health insurance now costs in this country. I can only
Speaker 2: tell you what I've looked into, Okay, and I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert because I haven't done it right. What I've
Speaker 2: looked into getting out of the insurance run medical industry,
Speaker 2: meaning concierge medicine. And it sounds expensive, and it is expensive,
Speaker 2: there's no question about it. But it's not that much
Speaker 2: more expensive than having health insurance now. And that number
Speaker 2: is going to get better as more and more people
Speaker 2: chafe against the health insurance industry, which, of course the
Speaker 2: government's screwed up. Remember it's not the insurance companies. It
Speaker 2: was all this Obamacare exchanges and everything else that's screwed
Speaker 2: it up, that screwed up our health insurance industry. Now
Speaker 2: there are doctors in doctor's offices, and there's change of
Speaker 2: these things now, multiple chains across the country that do
Speaker 2: concierge metis, which means no insurance. You'd pay something like
Speaker 2: a monthly fee or something like that. But what I've
Speaker 2: warned about repeatedly, and what you can totally see happening now,
Speaker 2: is this is going to make good healthcare only something
Speaker 2: rich people get and that was previously not like that
Speaker 2: in the country. The last time I had to go
Speaker 2: to the hospital, I was mortified, not just by the
Speaker 2: conditions by the staff. Were there some lovely nurses, of course?
Speaker 2: Was there a good doctor? I don't know, none of
Speaker 2: the ones I've saw. It was a bunch of dirt balls, rude, dumb, freaking, terrible,
Speaker 2: bad state of affairs.
Speaker 1: We'll be back.
Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday
Speaker 2: hop day.
Speaker 1: You can email us.
Speaker 2: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com, ten minutes away from
Speaker 2: our veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. Can't wait to
Speaker 2: talk to him. But let me go ahead and address
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room. So Dan Bongino, Deputy Director
Speaker 2: of the FBI. Dan Bongino came out today. There were
Speaker 2: rumors swirling already, but he came out today, made it official.
Speaker 2: Trump kind of let the cat out of the bag.
Speaker 2: I think he's leaving. Dan said, hey, January, I'm leaving.
Speaker 2: And a bunch of people were asking my thoughts on
Speaker 2: it and say no, I know.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 2: So hey, Chris, if you wouldn't mind, I would like
Speaker 2: to hear what I said back in July. So here
Speaker 2: it is. Do you remember what I told you about
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino and the FBI. But I wake up every
Speaker 2: day and I look at my phone for maybe a
Speaker 2: text message or maybe just a headline dan Bongino stepping down.
Speaker 2: If Dan Bongino steps down, especially if it's over the
Speaker 2: next year, it can't be saved. He doesn't believe he
Speaker 2: can save it, because he's not gonna sit there and
Speaker 2: do nothing. If he throws his hands up and says,
Speaker 2: screw it, I'm done, that'll tell you it can't be fixed.
Speaker 1: I I don't know all of his reasons. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe he just misses being you know, on the radio
Speaker 2: or wherever he's going to go back to. He's going
Speaker 2: to be a huge success wherever he goes back to.
Speaker 2: I don't know all his reasons. But I told you
Speaker 2: a long time ago that was my concern. My concern
Speaker 2: is that that institution I was about to call it organization,
Speaker 2: that that institution is far beyond saving. That it is
Speaker 2: such a criminal institution now after years and years of
Speaker 2: communist infiltration, it is such a criminal institution that maybe
Speaker 2: you can nibble a little on the edges here and
Speaker 2: nibble a little on the edges there. And obviously you
Speaker 2: can do some good things. I mean, the only reason
Speaker 2: we have the pipe bomber now is because Bongino, right.
Speaker 2: You can do some good things, but all you can
Speaker 2: do is nibble around the edges.
Speaker 1: Because at its core it is.
Speaker 2: An evil communist criminal organization, and I do not believe
Speaker 2: it can be fixed. I don't It should be defunded,
Speaker 2: disbanded in its entirety. It should and as I've said
Speaker 2: many many times before, I believe that the FBI will
Speaker 2: be one of the main driving forces between whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it, secession, rebellion, something in the future
Speaker 2: in this country, because the communists are going to keep
Speaker 2: sending FBI agents into states, into people's homes. They're going
Speaker 2: to keep sending SWAT teams to arrest pastors, and one
Speaker 2: day some red states may actually get some guts and
Speaker 2: say no, you're not allowed to come in, No you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to do this, And that is going to
Speaker 2: put a state versus the federal government. And it's easy
Speaker 2: to see how that could kick the whole thing off.
Speaker 2: We can't take half measures with communist institutions.
Speaker 1: We want to I want to do with the right
Speaker 1: worry of it.
Speaker 2: You cannot take half measures with communist institutions.
Speaker 1: By the way, Chris, what are the are these shekels
Speaker 1: you put on my thing? What are these things? Is this
Speaker 1: what you people call shekels? Is that what it is?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Playing with the drad ol? What's a dradol? Again, Chris,
Speaker 2: I didn't. You don't have to insult me like I
Speaker 2: know everything.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I know my campaign manager was Jewish. I didn't go
Speaker 2: over the whole Torah with him. I don't know everything
Speaker 2: about everything. Okay, you know he did not well, I
Speaker 2: mean no, I didn't get invited to any holidays. Definitely
Speaker 2: not After the time I asked him if matzabal soup
Speaker 2: had mozzarella in it. I was always under the impression
Speaker 2: that it did. He was mortified. He thought, what did
Speaker 2: he say? I think he said to me, that's the
Speaker 2: most goy thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: His mother loved me. She was an angel. What, Chris,
Speaker 2: Matza ball soup sucks. I know, oh, all your food sucks.
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry. And by the way, don't sell me
Speaker 2: on the potato cake things. Everybody else does that too.
Speaker 2: You can't claim that you people can't claim that bagels
Speaker 2: are admittedly phenomenal. A good I'll make this argument, A
Speaker 2: good everything bagel with bacon, egg, and cheese on it.
Speaker 1: What, Chris, Oh yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 2: You can't eat some of that and a little bit
Speaker 2: of mayo or miracle whip if you want to class
Speaker 2: it up a little bit. That is the best breakfast
Speaker 2: on the planet. It's better than biscuits and gravy. It's
Speaker 2: better than waffles. It's better than anything else you can
Speaker 2: come up with. A good It's better than steak and eggs, Chris,
Speaker 2: A good, A good bacon, egg and cheese.
Speaker 1: Baker.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know because you're from Texas, buddy, And I
Speaker 2: know you're Jewish, but the Jewish food sucks here. Actually,
Speaker 2: you do make good bagels. I take that back, so
Speaker 2: maybe you would know. Now you don't know much about bacon,
Speaker 2: egg and cheese, not like I do. But maybe you
Speaker 2: can have like goat, egg and cheese.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 2: Goat's not bad, Chris, It's really not bad anyway. Jewish
Speaker 2: food's terrible, Buddy. It's just dreadful, dreadful. That great comedian
Speaker 2: Sebastian Maniscalo has He's obviously Italian, has a hilarious stand
Speaker 2: up routine about that, making it basically bragging about Italian
Speaker 2: food and making fun of Jewish food. I think his name,
Speaker 2: you've never heard of him, Sebastian Maniscalo. He's got eight
Speaker 2: thousand TV specials out there. He's really really funny. Hey,
Speaker 2: I have no idea why I'm talking about this right now. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's because of the shekels you put here that say
Speaker 2: Happy Hanukkah on them, and apparently there's chocolate in here
Speaker 2: or something like that. But thanks for the shekels, Chris. Now,
Speaker 2: let's go talk to a veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War.
Speaker 1: Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris Buddy picked
Speaker 1: his song. I like this guy. It's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2: So obviously, as we've been discussing over the past week,
Speaker 2: I did a multi part thing on the Rhodesian Bush War.
Speaker 2: But I'm just a dumb American from Ohio. I'm a
Speaker 2: white trash kid from Ohio. What do I know about
Speaker 2: the Rhodesian Bush War? Just what I read?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm blessed enough that we had someone reach out to
Speaker 2: the show who knew someone who was there, a veteran
Speaker 2: of the Rhodesian Bush War, who will's probably forgotten much
Speaker 2: more about it than I will ever know, And I
Speaker 2: thought it would just be a wonderful perspective. So now
Speaker 2: allow me to introduce Buddy Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian
Speaker 2: Bush War. Buddy, but before we get into the war
Speaker 2: and everything, tell me about your family.
Speaker 6: Oh, I grew up on a farm. Okay, I was
Speaker 6: the original gomer pile. They've done a dairy farm. Never
Speaker 6: went anywhere until I went to Paras Island.
Speaker 2: How about that? Now, out you're a farm boy, you
Speaker 2: go to Paris Island, then you end up in Rhodesia.
Speaker 2: How does that happen?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: No, no, I went. I went into Marines. I did
Speaker 6: my four years. I liked it. I like the Marines.
Speaker 6: I had a good time. Uh faught of the twenty
Speaker 6: six Marines and Quaison. I went back, UH flew helicopters
Speaker 6: when HTMM won sixty one. It's a gunner. That was
Speaker 6: quite a change from being a ground founder and division.
Speaker 6: But it was all good.
Speaker 2: Now we can't just fast forward past being a freaking
Speaker 2: marine in Quaison.
Speaker 1: Tell us about Kaison.
Speaker 6: Do you ever go up there? It's beautiful? I don't uh.
Speaker 6: When I landed there August sixty seven, when I got
Speaker 6: off the plane, I looked around and for those that
Speaker 6: are listening and events, it's been there. It was dark,
Speaker 6: kind of foggy, but it's beautiful, right on the the
Speaker 6: ocean border. And I was there almost seven months, and
Speaker 6: I was lucky enough to have been all gone all
Speaker 6: the way out to Long Bay, which was the Special
Speaker 6: Forces camp that got overrun during the fight, and it
Speaker 6: was just beautiful territory. I mean, that's all I can say.
Speaker 1: Now. The fight itself, it's hard for.
Speaker 2: Me to explain to people what it's like when an
Speaker 2: artillery round of any kind lands close to you. I
Speaker 2: have attempted to explain it had happened to me in Iraq,
Speaker 2: but someone at que San would know far more about
Speaker 2: it than I would tell people about what it's like
Speaker 2: to be under artillery.
Speaker 6: Fire from my own personal perspective. To your pardon my language,
Speaker 6: the pucker factor goes up. That was not the first
Speaker 6: time I had been under artillery the rocket fire. Been
Speaker 6: there a couple of times up and dog huh really
Speaker 6: caught it up there. I fought but when they started
Speaker 6: hitting using case on which would have been January twenty first,
Speaker 6: they were so accurate they was scary. The base is
Speaker 6: not very big. You can go online and look at it.
Speaker 6: It's not a big base. And what you listen for
Speaker 6: is your guys shooting back. That gives you a little
Speaker 6: bit of satisfaction because when you're down there in the
Speaker 6: hole and there's nothing you can do, but when your
Speaker 6: guns go off, and that would be the thirteenth Marines
Speaker 6: when they started returning fire, it really felt good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels good to give it back to them.
Speaker 2: So I know it's kind of a dumb question, but
Speaker 2: how does one even sleep when you are surrounded by
Speaker 2: the enemy. You know, you're surrounded, things are exploding all
Speaker 2: the time. How do you even get any shut high?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 6: Yes, it's I'm sure there's other guys that have been
Speaker 6: the same situation. But you get to the point you're tired,
Speaker 6: and I would I had an M sixty, and I
Speaker 6: had an outside fighting hole right at the flight line
Speaker 6: of the runway, and I would pull a poncho over
Speaker 6: me in the M sixty and sit on the two
Speaker 6: cases of ramo and bring the gun up close to me,
Speaker 6: and when the pancho had the top tied off, it's
Speaker 6: the fog would miss just like being in Rain. And
Speaker 6: I'm sleep like a baby.
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was like to be that's freaking tired.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Now, for the reason you're joining us again, we're speaking
Speaker 2: to Buddy Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War and
Speaker 2: obviously the Vietnam War as well. Buddy, how do you
Speaker 2: end up in Rhodesia.
Speaker 6: I do not want to sound too corny, but I
Speaker 6: think one thing I missed was the camaraderie of the military.
Speaker 6: And after I got to reading about it what was
Speaker 6: going on, said crap, you know this is a real thing.
Speaker 6: It's bad guys over there. And I said, okay, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna do this. Let's do it now. I had missed
Speaker 6: the seventy three war in Israel because it didn't last
Speaker 6: very long. And I've been so used to traveling with
Speaker 6: without a passport because I worked for the sand Well,
Speaker 6: the first thing I did after the Israeli war was
Speaker 6: get a passport, duh. And I just one day woke
Speaker 6: up and said, okay, that's it. I said, I'm out
Speaker 6: of here. I should have gone. About a year and
Speaker 6: a half earlier, my dad had passed away and I
Speaker 6: had responsibilities here, and by then everything was good, had
Speaker 6: my mom taken care of my bills were all Tata
Speaker 6: didn't know nothing anymore and just wanted to get over
Speaker 6: there and get into it all right. So it doesn't
Speaker 6: sound too goofy.
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound goofy at all. I just had them meet
Speaker 2: up with my marine buddies last year because I missed
Speaker 2: the camaraderie. It's nothing goofy about at all. Anybody who's
Speaker 2: been in that knows exactly what you're talking about. Now
Speaker 2: we'll try to walk through this step by step overview wise. First,
Speaker 2: what is Rhodesia? What is the state of the war
Speaker 2: when Buddy Lily gets there?
Speaker 6: Not good?
Speaker 1: What year is this?
Speaker 6: Pardon sir?
Speaker 1: What year is this?
Speaker 6: This would be September of seventy nine. Okay, they were
Speaker 6: still fighting and they were still winning. The sas and
Speaker 6: a light infantry would doing a lot of raids over
Speaker 6: in mozam Beak, which I would tell the readers that
Speaker 6: are interested to they can find some books on it
Speaker 6: to read on it. These guys were really good of
Speaker 6: what they did on the incursions in the Mozam Beak,
Speaker 6: but they were still hitting when I got there, because
Speaker 6: we had a safe house where we kept our gear
Speaker 6: at and I was walking in there one day and
Speaker 6: two aircraft came over so low, and this nice lady
Speaker 6: it was there, noticed, Oh, they're going to Mosam Beach,
Speaker 6: you know, just like that. Looked like it was no
Speaker 6: big deal.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Okay, So buddy, if you don't mind, if I'm just
Speaker 2: so grateful you're giving us your time before I start
Speaker 2: to dig into you, the training, when you got there,
Speaker 2: everything else. I have to go to a commercial break
Speaker 2: and then we'll come back and we'll talk some more
Speaker 2: about this if you have time.
Speaker 1: You had some more time for me.
Speaker 6: Buddy, Yes, sir, I'm here as long as you want me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Man Simper five, Buddy, Lily veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War,
Speaker 2: gonna come break some more of it down for us.
Speaker 2: I scannot believe how much this topic has taken off
Speaker 2: with you. So look I love it too. I'm geeking
Speaker 2: out over here. I told Jewish producer Chris before the
Speaker 2: show even started.
Speaker 1: I told him I'm just gonna nerd out.
Speaker 2: I can't believe we have an actual veteran of the
Speaker 2: war here to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We'll be back.
Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnet magnificent Wednesday,
Speaker 2: a hunt Day, and we are still joined by Buddy Lilly,
Speaker 2: veteran of the Rhodesian Bushwar and Vietnam the United States Marine.
Speaker 2: All right, Buddy, we kind of fast forwarded through something
Speaker 2: that actually I'm curious about. You wanted the camaraderie, you
Speaker 2: wanted to go fight the bad guys in Rhodesia. But
Speaker 2: I would venture to guess you didn't just buy a
Speaker 2: plane ticket and show up and knock knock on someone's
Speaker 2: door over there.
Speaker 1: How does that work? Do you? How does it work
Speaker 1: to even get recruited? How did you get signed up?
Speaker 6: Jesse? You don't know how close you just came. I
Speaker 6: had been in touch with the recruiter from the Light
Speaker 6: Infantry sometime before that. But when I decided to go,
Speaker 6: I went and bought a ticket, loaded my bags up,
Speaker 6: went on over and when I landed there, I said, well,
Speaker 6: I'm here, Now what am I gonna do? And you
Speaker 6: hit it just about on the head.
Speaker 1: You So, whose door did you knock on? Buddy.
Speaker 6: Let me sell you this on a serious, serious note.
Speaker 6: The Rhodesian people are the most polite you'll ever meet.
Speaker 6: On the plane, I was, well, I flew from just
Speaker 6: for information, not to be born you, but from New York.
Speaker 6: He had to fly into Yoberg and then they would
Speaker 6: push you on air Rhodesia. And when I got to Yoberg,
Speaker 6: gentlemen came over to me and I said, oh, this
Speaker 6: is not good. He said, we've got your bag, sir.
Speaker 6: They're a little heavy, but we're gonna load them for you.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead. I kid you not, sir, And he
Speaker 6: said they're head and I said they're tools. He said,
Speaker 6: I understand. And I got on a plane. I sat
Speaker 6: next to the Rhodesian gentleman who was coming back from Canada,
Speaker 6: and we had a wonderful talk. He filled me in
Speaker 6: on things and offered me his home to stay at,
Speaker 6: gave me his telephone number when we got to when
Speaker 6: we landed in Salisbury. When we landed there, he took
Speaker 6: me to a hotel. He said, if you don't like this,
Speaker 6: please call me. And I was just I just said, gee,
Speaker 6: this is it's like being in the country in the USA.
Speaker 6: These people are some friendly and polite. The other first
Speaker 6: person I met was the customs guy with a big
Speaker 6: grin says, you want to join the army? And I said,
Speaker 6: I just got here. Can you give me a break?
Speaker 6: And I really was like that. Everybody was just helpful.
Speaker 6: That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you get yourself checked in at the Rhodesian
Speaker 2: Best Western or whatever hotel you were checked in.
Speaker 6: At, and not quite close.
Speaker 1: Where do you go?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 2: Do you go have a night or two out on
Speaker 2: the town chasing down Rhodesian women?
Speaker 1: Do you what's next?
Speaker 6: Well, the gentleman from the customs gave me his number
Speaker 6: and asked me to give him a call. As it was,
Speaker 6: they only lived about six or eight blocks from the
Speaker 6: hotel I was at, which was not a flea bag.
Speaker 6: It was okay, but it was not the Monomatapa, which
Speaker 6: I could see across town, which I couldn't afford, thank you,
Speaker 6: but it was nice. So I called this gentleman up
Speaker 6: walk to their house and you got to imagine, now
Speaker 6: this is downtown Salt, very beautiful town was and I'm
Speaker 6: carrying ar in my back. Nobody except at fact it's
Speaker 6: an ar, and they don't see art fifteen. They don't
Speaker 6: see too many of them. But I looked around and said, gee,
Speaker 6: everybody's carrying guns around here. I mean, seriously, I'm not
Speaker 6: exaggerating a whole lot. And anyway, I got to this
Speaker 6: gentleman's house and his girlfriend worked for the courts, the
Speaker 6: Criminal Investigation Division, so she sent me over to see
Speaker 6: one of the supervisors the next day who want to
Speaker 6: scale one to ten? Was about an eight and a half.
Speaker 6: But she sent me to a couple places for interviews.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm on my second day there. This is
Speaker 6: how fast things were moving. And I was offered a
Speaker 6: couple jobs and I did not feel comfortable taking a
Speaker 6: cup of them because I I didn't know the AO,
Speaker 6: I didn't know all the customs. The responsibility I would
Speaker 6: have had did not line up with my knowledge of
Speaker 6: the country if you know where I'm coming from. So
Speaker 6: I ended up going to work for Well. I had
Speaker 6: an interview with Anglo American, which was a pretty big corporation,
Speaker 6: and went to work for the Forest Management Service. The
Speaker 6: gentleman in charge, the big boss, took me to his
Speaker 6: house for lunch. I was just flabbergasted. I know it
Speaker 6: sounds crazy, but gave me a long talk, took me down,
Speaker 6: made sure my driver's license would be okay in Rhodesia.
Speaker 6: Said be at the office at one o'clock. You're going
Speaker 6: out on a convoy. And next thing I knew, I
Speaker 6: was hired.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna pause before we get to the convoy.
Speaker 2: This is something actually I did not tell everyone. When
Speaker 2: I was discussing the Rhodesian Bush War. You brought it up.
Speaker 2: I've seen the pictures of it. That women would walk
Speaker 2: around with weapons. It was it was such a dangerous
Speaker 2: place that just everybody was armed.
Speaker 6: Did you see that, Yes, sir, I mean you didn't
Speaker 6: always do it, but it wasn't unusual to pass somebody
Speaker 6: with a you know, with an fal on their back.
Speaker 6: Everybody over there had to be a citizen soldier, male
Speaker 6: or female. You did not know when or if mcgoby's
Speaker 6: boys were gonna pop in there and do something. They
Speaker 6: weren't as bad as the terrorist star nowadays. They didn't
Speaker 6: hit the big cities much, but you had to be
Speaker 6: prepared anyway, and those people were prepared some of the
Speaker 6: later on one of the hotels and I'm where I
Speaker 6: worked out of Oh I forgot to tell you that much. Uh,
Speaker 6: I forgot something.
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, buddy. It's because we're about to
Speaker 2: take a break. And then when we get back, you're
Speaker 2: gonna tell us everything, because I'm just gonna continue to
Speaker 2: bore you with questions because I'm so fascinating right now.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Buddy, Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian bush War as promised,
Speaker 2: is here giving us is time killing it. By the way, Buddy,
Speaker 2: cannot tell you how much I appreciate this. So we
Speaker 2: are gonna take a little quick break. When we come back.
Speaker 2: I know this is the next hour. Buddy, Lily's gonna
Speaker 2: give us some more wisdom.
Speaker 1: Hang on,