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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've probably already filled out your bracket and
Speaker 2: have it handy so you know, you can just reference
Speaker 2: your bracket and fill it out. Or maybe you want
Speaker 2: to do a little bit, maybe you want to go
Speaker 2: a little different, which gives me the h gives me
Speaker 2: the I haven't even asked you this yet, Austin. Are
Speaker 2: you a multiple bracket guy or you do one? Or
Speaker 2: do you do brackets at all?
Speaker 3: I've traditionally always done too, especially when Louisville's in it,
Speaker 3: and of course I go with the heart and I
Speaker 3: put Louisville to win, and then I just kind of
Speaker 3: go with a little more thoughtful one, and I'll probably
Speaker 3: do the same this year.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people that watch college basketball
Speaker 2: are doing it exactly the way you just mentioned. They'll
Speaker 2: have one that is a little bit more lucy goosey,
Speaker 2: more so what you want to see rather than what
Speaker 2: you predict will happen. And then you have one where
Speaker 2: you feel like, you know, you're just trying to be
Speaker 2: as objective as possible. And then there's some that fill out,
Speaker 2: you know, a ton of them, and at that point
Speaker 2: it just gets too hard for me to keep up
Speaker 2: with exactly. I'm not against anybody filling out as many
Speaker 2: brackets as they want. For me, if I did more
Speaker 2: than two, I would not I And that's really what
Speaker 2: makes it fun is to be able to you know,
Speaker 2: track and see how well you're doing in your bracket, right,
Speaker 2: Like if you don't have a clue what the root
Speaker 2: for because on this bracket you pick that. On the
Speaker 2: other bracket you get something different. It just becomes to me,
Speaker 2: it becomes too much work, yeah, for something that you're
Speaker 2: supposed to, you know, just enjoy.
Speaker 3: It's almost the same thing with like fantasy football, Like
Speaker 3: it used to be fun when you had like six
Speaker 3: different teams, but it's too many to track.
Speaker 4: It's too many to track and keep up with.
Speaker 3: And I don't know when you have lesser brackets, I
Speaker 3: think it makes it fun just because you can be
Speaker 3: like that is a true bracketbuster because and now your
Speaker 3: bracket is completely busted because you only had one or
Speaker 3: two in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean the people who love college
Speaker 2: basketball like us, I mean, we're consuming it year round.
Speaker 2: We're of course going to fill out brackets, we watch
Speaker 2: it throughout the season, we bet on it. But I
Speaker 2: think you know, for me, I don't really you know,
Speaker 2: bracket the whole like the the whole, like just having
Speaker 2: a bracket in front of you. Brackets are great content,
Speaker 2: by the way, for anything like movie bracket through bracket,
Speaker 2: like when it comes to just content that a lot
Speaker 2: of people will will take in and react to, like
Speaker 2: a bracket about anything is a good way to go.
Speaker 2: And of course you've got a sixty eight sixty eight
Speaker 2: field tournament here that's got a humongous bracket. So that's
Speaker 2: what makes the tournament really cool is the bracket itself.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why you see people really. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: March Madness is a big deal across the country, but
Speaker 2: college basketball is not a big deal across the country
Speaker 2: for any time really other than you know, right now.
Speaker 2: So what I'm getting at is, I think for us,
Speaker 2: like we're always going to fill out brackets, but I
Speaker 2: don't think they're is special to me now and I'm
Speaker 2: sure I'm not alone. And it's because like the thought
Speaker 2: of winning your bracket pool is cool. But you know what,
Speaker 2: I can win money every day betting on college basketball.
Speaker 4: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Like I think fantasy football is dying and within certain
Speaker 2: age ranges, because you know, you can just do daily
Speaker 2: fantasy and you can bet on games and like that's
Speaker 2: that's enough of a thrill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's.
Speaker 2: An instant thing. It's it's I mean, it's easy to.
Speaker 3: Do and win as much money as you can waiting
Speaker 3: five months for the season and like a weekend.
Speaker 2: And it's more work too. Yeah, like it just you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'll never leave my league voluntarily. They
Speaker 2: may kick me out because I'm you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: very good and I at times have been the guy
Speaker 2: to you know, forget to set the line up, which
Speaker 2: isn't good. But like I just it's not it's not
Speaker 2: something I really think about a whole lot, because I'm
Speaker 2: more worried about, you know, logging into one of these
Speaker 2: sportsbooks and making wagers. So again, I will certainly fill
Speaker 2: out a bracket and follow along and see how I do.
Speaker 2: But more than anything, I'm going to be thinking about,
Speaker 2: you know, which games I want to bet on when
Speaker 2: we get to Thursday and Friday, in fact even tomorrow.
Speaker 2: In the playing games. I mean, there's probably some good
Speaker 2: games there too. And n I T. The n I
Speaker 2: T has been good to me when it comes to wagers,
Speaker 2: because I don't I mean, it's probably just luck. But
Speaker 2: I think in the n I t it's a pretty
Speaker 2: easy thing to determine, you know, which teams really are
Speaker 2: going to embrace being there and which teams quite quite literally,
Speaker 2: you know, clearly don't want to be there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like Georgia Tech, they finished the season
Speaker 2: really strong and they ended up being a weird team
Speaker 2: that had some good wins. You know, they're only five
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites over Jacksonville State. They may lose,
Speaker 2: but like Georgia Tech is a good enough Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: has talent that if they're into it, they should be
Speaker 2: able to not win the whole NIIT, but like they
Speaker 2: could win a few games, maybe they beat you know,
Speaker 2: maybe they be Jacksonville stayed by Tundamar.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But anyways, we're not talking about the ant day. We're
Speaker 2: talking about THENTABL the tournament. And I mentioned this early
Speaker 2: on in the show for those that weren't with us.
Speaker 2: I think yesterday was as disappointed as I've been as
Speaker 2: a Louisville basketball fan in a long long time. And
Speaker 2: I think disappointment. For you to have that feeling, I
Speaker 2: think you have to have some level of expectation, and
Speaker 2: this season was so awesome, and it was because one
Speaker 2: they were successful. They were a lovable group. This team.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about them like it's their funeral, like they're
Speaker 2: dead and they're not. I mean, they still got a
Speaker 2: chance to, you know, to make a run.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: They're in the tournament, and that's great. But the disappointment
Speaker 2: set in because again, there was not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of expectation really throughout the entire year. Until you know,
Speaker 2: they proved they were good enough to make the tournament.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to worry about being on the bubble.
Speaker 2: And when they lost games earlier this seas, I was sad,
Speaker 2: but I don't think disappointment would be one of the
Speaker 2: emotions I had when they got blown out by All
Speaker 2: miss or when they came up short against Duke in Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and when they got killed by Tennessee, when they lost
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, even when they lost to Georgia Tech. That
Speaker 2: was the head scratcher. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like that happens, and I couldn't be disappointed because I
Speaker 2: just I feel like, hey, they're probably they were probably
Speaker 2: due for a loss, and at this point it wasn't
Speaker 2: because they came out and didn't give effort. They just
Speaker 2: they had a bad night. So the Kinny Payne era,
Speaker 2: I mean, I was disappointed from the beginning, and then
Speaker 2: it kind of just you know, disappointed, Like it's the
Speaker 2: same thing. Expectation is certainly a factor in how you
Speaker 2: go back and forth on you know, where your emotions are.
Speaker 2: How could I be disappointed after every Louisville basketball game
Speaker 2: when I know that the team stunk and was gonna
Speaker 2: mean they you know, when they we were numb to it,
Speaker 2: So there was really no I mean I was disappointed overall,
Speaker 2: but like I was overall disappointed to a level that
Speaker 2: like I'd already dealt with it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like Kenny Payne had ten games left in his in
Speaker 2: his in his second and final season. I mean, I
Speaker 2: couldn't be disappointed in them losing to somebody if I tried,
Speaker 2: because again, it's not a result I want. But like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to myself and act like they
Speaker 2: should have won some of these games when I knew
Speaker 2: they were terrible. So to see and it was such
Speaker 2: an unexpected jab. I mean, it hit me right in
Speaker 2: the in the you know what, because I just couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was beside myself and and
Speaker 2: and I know when we were simulcasting earlier with the
Speaker 2: crew over at h as Dave Jennings mentioned it, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. Seeing your team get seated so
Speaker 2: wildly off of what you expected and what everybody else expected,
Speaker 2: and have it be the second game announced in the
Speaker 2: bracket unveiling.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that made it worse.
Speaker 2: Like I can't really tell you why it made it worse,
Speaker 2: but like it made it really really. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me that kind of news, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess there's no way. Yeah, there's no good way
Speaker 2: to do it, but I don't know. Just like as
Speaker 2: soon as sort of I set down with my beer,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh wait, well what you have my way?
Speaker 2: This can't be real.
Speaker 4: We're usually kind of waiting for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. It was a real I mean,
Speaker 2: I was disappointed, and I still am. I'll be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I haven't really thought a whole lot about
Speaker 2: the Creighton game just yet. I'm going to get there,
Speaker 2: but today's a day where you know, I think it
Speaker 2: It reminded me of just how it can linger when
Speaker 2: it comes to being disappointed about louis basketball, because it's
Speaker 2: something and I know I'm not alone. It's something that
Speaker 2: I probably cared too much about, right, Like, it's probably
Speaker 2: not healthy for me to care this much, but it's
Speaker 2: it's just how I am, and I you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think I could be any other way. And I know
Speaker 2: a lot of you probably agree. But even during the
Speaker 2: roller coaster of this year, as I mentioned, with the injuries,
Speaker 2: and again you know, it hadn't been it han't always
Speaker 2: been perfect, but I couldn't be disappointed because I still
Speaker 2: felt like they were it was it was really best
Speaker 2: case scenario and given circumstances, like it was an awesome ride.
Speaker 2: But yesterday, what a feeling of disappointment. And I still
Speaker 2: am in disbelief that it played out the way that
Speaker 2: it did. I mean, I was joking earlier, but I
Speaker 2: also wanted I'll clarify sort of my thoughts on this,
Speaker 2: because for those who haven't seen it, you could make
Speaker 2: the case that just by looking at the numbers here
Speaker 2: and really knowing conference afiliation, that they might have just
Speaker 2: accidentally swapped Memphis in Louisville. As as stupid as that sounds.
Speaker 2: And again I can't tell you with the straight face
Speaker 2: that like I'm accusing them of that. But if they
Speaker 2: did it and we found out, which we never would,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked because again, look at the difference
Speaker 2: in these two teams. Memphis in the NET forty ninth
Speaker 2: they get a five seed, Louisville twenty fourth, they get
Speaker 2: an eight seed. Again, the NET is created by the
Speaker 2: nc DOUBLEA, So you can throw out Ken Palm, Torvik, RPI, BPI,
Speaker 2: NTI at home with your kids, whatever you want to use.
Speaker 2: The NET ranking is quite literally with the NCAA created. Therefore,
Speaker 2: they're going to factor that in more than anything. And
Speaker 2: to see that big of a difference seed line when
Speaker 2: one team, yes, Memphis played a tough non conference schedule
Speaker 2: and they won a couple of games that have value,
Speaker 2: but to get them a five, it just doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense. If Louisville is an eight, RPI Louisville sixteen,
Speaker 2: Memphis twenty two, Ken Palm Louisville twenty three, Memphis thirty four,
Speaker 2: Bart Torvick Louisville nineteenth, Clempson or Memphis forty, and it
Speaker 2: could keep in mind this Bart Torvik formula is the
Speaker 2: newest one that they're utilizing that they were supposed to
Speaker 2: be factoring in this year. Clearly they didn't, and he
Speaker 2: referenced it. Bubba Cunningham referenced the Bart Torvick ranking when it,
Speaker 2: you know, when what they were doing differently this year
Speaker 2: and no, and reference Louisville when talking about it, and
Speaker 2: they're twenty one spots off. Memphis gets a five, Louisville
Speaker 2: gets an eight. And I don't really like to use
Speaker 2: the ESPN BPI because I think ESPN's formulas all suck.
Speaker 2: But Lowell's twentieth Memphis is forty second. I mean again,
Speaker 2: like yes, maybe let me like, maybe you're valuing Memphis
Speaker 2: and what they did in their conference because they did
Speaker 2: win their conference, right, Memphis did, but they won the
Speaker 2: American Athletic Conference, a conference that's a one bid league,
Speaker 2: a conference that nobody else was going to get in.
Speaker 2: I mean, if UAB beats Memphis, that would have been
Speaker 2: a bid stealer. So you're telling me that you can
Speaker 2: get a five seed by because of like if what's
Speaker 2: a separator between you and other teams is that you
Speaker 2: won your conference in the regular season, in the tournament,
Speaker 2: but it's a one bid league. I mean again, and
Speaker 2: Louisville played in the ACC championship game and they went
Speaker 2: eighteen and two in that league. And I know the
Speaker 2: league's down, but it's better than the American by every
Speaker 2: single objective, every measure, and also the committee. The Louisville
Speaker 2: being seated eighth is the only sign they gave you
Speaker 2: that they didn't respect the ACC. Clemson getting a five
Speaker 2: shows you that they respected the ACC. Dude, getting a
Speaker 2: number one overall was going to happen regardless, So it's
Speaker 2: not really about like it would have been. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's just no way to do could be seated anything
Speaker 2: other than one, But Carolina getting in another sign that
Speaker 2: you know, you can be who they were and get
Speaker 2: in despite your league not being great and you not
Speaker 2: being one of the better teams in your league. It
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. And again I'm not accusing
Speaker 2: them of that. Part of me still thinks that there's
Speaker 2: no scenario that could actually happen, but crazier things have happened,
Speaker 2: and that would actually make sense because Louisville being seated
Speaker 2: eight than Memphis being seated fifth. There's not a single
Speaker 2: scenario where you could justify how they came up with that.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even telling you that like Louisville should
Speaker 2: have been seated way higher than Memphis. Trust me, that's
Speaker 2: not what I mean at all. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes down to it, Memphis played in a
Speaker 2: league that is substantially worse than the ACC, even when
Speaker 2: the ACC, as we know, is way down, and they
Speaker 2: have losses to Whichita State, they have losses to Temple,
Speaker 2: they have lost to Arkansas State on their home floor.
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, they did beat Michigan State and
Speaker 2: that win had a lot of value. They got them
Speaker 2: in maw if you remember, and they beat Clemson in overtime.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean, for every good win
Speaker 2: that they got a lot of credit for, it clearly
Speaker 2: didn't mean a whole lot when it comes to the numbers.
Speaker 2: And also they didn't get held account and that is
Speaker 2: without question one of the most noticeable things throughout the end.
Speaker 2: If there is one thing they did consistently this year,
Speaker 2: they didn't punish you for bad losses. You didn't get
Speaker 2: pun I mean, like, you can't be a five seed
Speaker 2: if you're Clemson with losses to Arkansas State, which a
Speaker 2: tall state and Temple, I mean in a one big league,
Speaker 2: no less. So again, if you would have told me,
Speaker 2: and I would, I worried about this here and there.
Speaker 2: I kept bringing it up, not till like and I
Speaker 2: kept trying to, you know, get out of the conversation
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to sound like I was being
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want to think about a scenario
Speaker 2: where we'd end up here. And I knew some people
Speaker 2: told me I was crazy when I would act like
Speaker 2: Louisville could potentially be held accountable, like for the fact that, yeah,
Speaker 2: they won a lot of games, but man, who they
Speaker 2: beat don't mean they're bad, but it's just it is
Speaker 2: what it is. Like I worry about that because I
Speaker 2: knew going into yesterday Louisville their best win was Clemson twice,
Speaker 2: and they didn't get their best win until they beat
Speaker 2: Clemson on a neutral just two days ago or three
Speaker 2: days ago. So those are your best wins one win
Speaker 2: or two wins against the same team, one home, one neutral.
Speaker 2: And then you beat Carolina, a team that at the
Speaker 2: time yesterday before the selection show, I didn't think Carolina
Speaker 2: was getting in, did you, I didn't, So that was
Speaker 2: something I couldn't really escape. But then I would look
Speaker 2: at every single bracketologist out there, bracket matrix. You also, again,
Speaker 2: you did add value right before selection Sunday. You beat Clemson,
Speaker 2: and then you played Duke competitively in Charlotte, and I
Speaker 2: know Cooper Flag didn't play, but man, I really felt
Speaker 2: like collectively Louisville being up at the half against Duke
Speaker 2: and clearly competing with them in a good game, I
Speaker 2: thought that would have removed the the you know, I
Speaker 2: thought it would have wavered those who were not willing
Speaker 2: to give them the benefited out because yes, all their
Speaker 2: losses for the most part were to really really good
Speaker 2: teams and they don't have any real big wins.
Speaker 4: But man, like, you know.
Speaker 2: They showed who they were. But I think everybody else
Speaker 2: probably did see it that way, other than the ones
Speaker 2: who matter, which of course is the selection committee. So
Speaker 2: again two, I mean, it's crazy to think about Austin
Speaker 2: and we'll never know, but Louisville, if Chucky doesn't hit
Speaker 2: the game winner against Stanford and we go to overtime
Speaker 2: and lose or maybe they just don't make that comeback,
Speaker 2: would Louisvill have been in the playing game I mean.
Speaker 4: It's a scary thought, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know you would have not even had
Speaker 2: the chance to get your best win that you ended
Speaker 2: up getting that of course, you know just came the
Speaker 2: day after that. So I mean, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: The more I the more I just ramble about it, dude,
Speaker 2: the more I think, like I'm sounding like that tenfoil
Speaker 2: hat lunatic because I'm starting to talk myself into thinking
Speaker 2: the only explanation is they just mixed up the two teams.
Speaker 4: Someone got someone forgot about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, cause again, I know Clemson Beaton and I
Speaker 2: know they beat Duke, and those are monstrous wins. Those
Speaker 2: wins have value. But they also lost to a Memphis
Speaker 2: team that I didn't expect to be, you know, a
Speaker 2: team seeded fifth in the tournament. I mean they also
Speaker 2: lost to Boise, who did not end up getting in,
Speaker 2: right or did they get in.
Speaker 4: I don't think Boise get in.
Speaker 2: I don't think Boise did no. So I mean, let's
Speaker 2: look at Clemson, and again I'm not I'm not even
Speaker 2: I can't. It's hard to tear down Clemson because you
Speaker 2: know that's your best win, and the better that they
Speaker 2: are viewed by the committee, the better it is for you,
Speaker 2: at least we thought, because again the committee thinks they're
Speaker 2: a five seed, but Louisll seemingly didn't get any credit
Speaker 2: for beating them. I mean, South Carolina was a bad loss,
Speaker 2: Boise was a bad loss. Georgia Tech Louisville had that
Speaker 2: same loss too. So I mean, I just I don't
Speaker 2: know the one thing that really has me usually I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, getting worked up about this is not
Speaker 2: going to benefit anybody, trust me.
Speaker 4: I know that I'll just let it out.
Speaker 2: But I've just never been in a position to where
Speaker 2: I've seen it with just because again, if you seed
Speaker 2: in the ACC differently, I'd still hate it and disagree
Speaker 2: with it. But you know I could, I could live
Speaker 2: with it because you just told us that our league
Speaker 2: stunk and we didn't get any value for going eighteen
Speaker 2: and two. But they didn't do that. They put Caroline in.
Speaker 2: They gave Clemson a five seed like that, Like it
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense at all. Real quick, before
Speaker 2: we get to our next break, let's hear Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 4: This was him.
Speaker 2: He had a couple of different radio interviews nationally since
Speaker 2: since finding out his team was seated at number eight,
Speaker 2: and clearly you could tell by the body language shown
Speaker 2: by him specifically and some others in the room, and
Speaker 2: they had the you know, they showed it on on
Speaker 2: the broadcast. They were stunned and as you could expect,
Speaker 2: feeling a little slighted.
Speaker 5: I'll be completely honest with you, Like when we're watching
Speaker 5: the selection show, it was like when that popped up,
Speaker 5: it hurt a little bit. You felt slighted a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know, it is what it is. At this point
Speaker 5: do you have the advantage of no choice, but you know,
Speaker 5: my opinion, we should be playing a twelve ver eleven seed.
Speaker 4: I'm totally with him.
Speaker 2: By the way, that was that was from ESPN Radio
Speaker 2: with Matt Jones last night on the on the March
Speaker 2: Badness Racket Show, and then earlier today I believe this
Speaker 2: was this morning on Mad Dog Serious xm kelsey was
Speaker 2: on and also talking about the same thing. Here here's
Speaker 2: the sound from that.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's any question that you know, is
Speaker 5: your going down the stretch of the season, especially after
Speaker 5: last night, you know, when we lost in the conference
Speaker 5: championship game, you turn your attention to the greatest fact
Speaker 5: to cron American sports, in my opinion, that's the NCAA
Speaker 5: tournament and keeping your eye on it a little bit
Speaker 5: as to what the net says, what Ken Palm says,
Speaker 5: what bracketology says. You know, we're pretty you know, pretty
Speaker 5: said on hey, we're probably gonna be a six. You know,
Speaker 5: there's a chance we're gonna be a five. We seemed
Speaker 5: to be climbing. There are a few people there was
Speaker 5: a whisper of a seven. It was like seven. We've
Speaker 5: lost two games in three months. We went eighteen and
Speaker 5: two in the conference. We beat Clemson twice. They got
Speaker 5: a five seed, lost to the number one team in
Speaker 5: the country in the finals of our conference tournament. And
Speaker 5: that popped up and it said eight. I was definitely surprised.
Speaker 5: The advantage of no advantage of no choice is what
Speaker 5: we have right now. It's fortunate to be in. We're
Speaker 5: excited to be playing. It could be a lot worse.
Speaker 5: We couldn't be preparing tonight and could be out of
Speaker 5: it all together. So we're excited about the next challenge
Speaker 5: at hand. You know, we think we should have been
Speaker 5: playing at twelve or eleven. And you know, obviously We're
Speaker 5: playing Creighton, who just went to the championship of the
Speaker 5: Big East Conference championship as well, very very well coached team.
Speaker 5: You know, every team in the NCAA tournament's really good.
Speaker 5: But we have our hands full with a very, very
Speaker 5: tough first round opponent, and we're fortunately excited to be
Speaker 5: playing the silver lining fellas would be. We're playing right
Speaker 5: down the road. So I'm challenging all of Cardinal Nation
Speaker 5: to what they gotta do to get in the door
Speaker 5: at rep Arena and make it is red an environment
Speaker 5: as we can.
Speaker 2: So I said this earlier when we were on with
Speaker 2: Terry Minors. For those who missed, we did a simulcast
Speaker 2: where Terry and Iward just going together on both stations.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the same thing coming up for the
Speaker 2: first segment of the five o'clock Hour as well. It's
Speaker 2: part of our Monday marathon. Person about Carriage Forward. But
Speaker 2: I do believe Pat Kelsey has shown he's the kind
Speaker 2: I mean, it may not result in a win, but
Speaker 2: I believe he's the kind of coach that will be
Speaker 2: able to I don't want to give you the cliche.
Speaker 2: We we'll use it as motivation. Chip On the shoulder.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody needs to do that. That's just
Speaker 2: I think gonna be there because they feel disrespected, which
Speaker 2: is a good thing, you coming in with something to prove,
Speaker 2: but also like they'll they'll, I don't, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: more than anything, it's it's it's two it's two things, right.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of factors that leads into this,
Speaker 2: But I think this group's mature and they're not like
Speaker 2: I think they're grown men, like they're you know, they're
Speaker 2: very experienced. They played a lot of basketball that helps.
Speaker 2: But also Pat Kelsey's culture, his leadership style, the way
Speaker 2: he goes about it. It's infectious to these guys to
Speaker 2: where they truly do embrace the one game at a time,
Speaker 2: Like they're not thinking anything about Auburn, they're only thinking
Speaker 2: about Creyton. And I haven't thought as much about Crayton
Speaker 2: as I probably you know, I was gonna say, like
Speaker 2: I should have, like it's gonna matter in the game,
Speaker 2: but I thought by now i'd be looking at all
Speaker 2: of Louisville's potential pass and you know, we know it's
Speaker 2: pretty clear you got to get past the number two
Speaker 2: team in the Big East and the number one overall
Speaker 2: seed in the whole thing. To get to the second weekend,
Speaker 2: it'll be tough to do, but you know, maybe they
Speaker 2: can ride some march magic. I'll tell you what I
Speaker 2: do love and we'll talk about more. We'll get We'll
Speaker 2: get a little more of it. On the other side
Speaker 2: is my man, the tribal chief, Austin Montgomery's got some
Speaker 2: real confidence in some march magic.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 2: It's firing me up. You're feeling, you're feeling they're going
Speaker 2: to come out and show how wrong the committee was.
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Speaker 2: by Carriage Forward. A lot of talk about the bracket,
Speaker 2: which we've done, we've done that, but mostly Louisville situation
Speaker 2: as they get an eight seed, which not many saw
Speaker 2: that coming. In fact, that's what really stands out more
Speaker 2: than anything is those who only matter right, what they
Speaker 2: decide is how this goes. I mean, it's the committee.
Speaker 2: They decide and they can do whatever they want. There's
Speaker 2: no real there's no they don't have to answer for anything,
Speaker 2: and it's always been that way. But objective folks, right
Speaker 2: like not Louisville fans, not acc Hanks, but people who
Speaker 2: do put together a bracket you know, because they want
Speaker 2: to and I mean bracketology. They want to build credibility
Speaker 2: as somebody who's good at predicting the NCUABLEA. And of
Speaker 2: course those who I believe should actually be a part
Speaker 2: of the process, those who literally do it year round.
Speaker 2: I mean they they thought Louisville, probably at worse, could
Speaker 2: get a seven. Most said six, some said five, and
Speaker 2: they get the eight. So just because everybody else predicted
Speaker 2: it one way and it went the other way, that
Speaker 2: doesn't really necessarily prove anything about right or wrong, but
Speaker 2: it tells you how disconnected this committee was about Louisville
Speaker 2: compared to others who you know, follow it closer. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get at the bole lines just a minute. But
Speaker 2: one thing that I've always said about the selection committee
Speaker 2: as well as the committee for the NCUAA College Football
Speaker 2: or for the college football Playoff. Now, the people who
Speaker 2: are on this, you know, in these positions. They clearly
Speaker 2: are successful in that world of college athletics. They're athletic
Speaker 2: directors at certain schools. Bubba Cunningham is the ad of
Speaker 2: North Carolina, He's the chairman. You've got Ward Manual, who
Speaker 2: is that for Michigan in football in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: You've got guys, you know, personnel from different conferences around
Speaker 2: the country, athletic directors and assistant athletic directors I believe
Speaker 2: at some point have made up this committee who makes
Speaker 2: this decision. So one, you clearly just have complic of interest.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can live in a world where like
Speaker 2: you don't assume that that's a thing, but it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, let's say Bubba Cunningham, like those are
Speaker 2: his peers. Those are people that he respects, that he
Speaker 2: got to know pretty well during the process here because
Speaker 2: you know, they're on the committee together. Yeah, he may
Speaker 2: have to leave the room, but those people they know
Speaker 2: when he comes back in the room and his team's
Speaker 2: on the bubble, and they're the ones who tell him
Speaker 2: we've decided not to put Caroline in. We've decided that
Speaker 2: this you know, we know this decision is going to
Speaker 2: take away one hundred thousand dollars of an incentive that
Speaker 2: you make if Carolina makes the tournament like human beings have.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a conflict of interest as a thing
Speaker 2: for a reason. Like even if you tell yourself, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be objected by, gotta leave the room, you
Speaker 2: still have people making decisions that it's really hard not
Speaker 2: to have some level of emotion that is involved in it.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying we should go the computers and
Speaker 2: go to robots and have those people decide who makes
Speaker 2: the tournament. But somebody who you know, that's all they
Speaker 2: do is watch college basketball and try to assess where
Speaker 2: the sixty eight field event is throughout the year. They're
Speaker 2: you think an athletic director is watching college basketball like
Speaker 2: those lunatics are? They got other They got more important
Speaker 2: things to do. Like whenever I saw that the committee
Speaker 2: for the College Football Playoff received iPads via mail because
Speaker 2: they needed the condensed version so they can actually watch
Speaker 2: these teams that they're gonna have to decide if they're
Speaker 2: worthy or not of making the tournament. Like that not
Speaker 2: raise a red flag anybody else, Like wait a second,
Speaker 2: this is the realization that, yeah, the people who make
Speaker 2: this decision, which is such a big deal. It is
Speaker 2: such an important thing. Like they got way more important
Speaker 2: jobs than even deciding that, like who gets into the
Speaker 2: playoff and who gets in the Nceblle Tournament. I know again,
Speaker 2: I'm not taking shots of these people as if they're
Speaker 2: incompetent as professionals, because clearly they're very successful to what
Speaker 2: they do. But they got better stuff to do than
Speaker 2: to be keeping up with college basketball as much as
Speaker 2: you need to in order to know who belongs and
Speaker 2: who doesn't. All right, FABO two five seventy nine hundred
Speaker 2: is the number. If you guys want to jump in
Speaker 2: and join us on the phone lines. Let's go to
Speaker 2: the phone lines, and now will welcome in. Jerry, Jerry,
Speaker 2: how are you doing today?
Speaker 4: Brother? It's all good.
Speaker 5: Nick.
Speaker 6: I worked with a guy years ago and he'd done
Speaker 6: and seen everything where I work, and he gave me
Speaker 6: a quote one time, and this is a quote for
Speaker 6: all the IU and West Virginia fans out there, okay,
Speaker 6: And it was real simple. He got passed over for
Speaker 6: a spot one time. Years later, I got passed over
Speaker 6: for a spot and he told me one day, he said, Jerry,
Speaker 6: remember I always remember this if you ain't in the planning,
Speaker 6: you ain't in the play. Okay. So if you're not
Speaker 6: in the room, forget about it. It's not gonna happen
Speaker 6: for you. You know, North Carolina's ads in the room,
Speaker 6: he's in the plan and he's in the plane. Okay.
Speaker 2: That's just the way it works, as well, said quick.
Speaker 6: Looking back throughout the season, I called in here once
Speaker 6: and I said, hey, Nick, we were six and five,
Speaker 6: and I said, I think we're going to go seventeen
Speaker 6: and fourteen. And you you pull it up and you said, well,
Speaker 6: Ken Pom says eighteen and thirteen. And we hash that out,
Speaker 6: you know, and as things got better and better, you
Speaker 6: know you. But anyway, I've looked at it today and
Speaker 6: I thought, I remember a time where I thought, hell,
Speaker 6: we might go twenty one and ten. We're going to
Speaker 6: get in the tournament. But now, looking back, if we'd
Speaker 6: have gone twenty one and ten, I think we'd be
Speaker 6: on the outside looking in.
Speaker 2: Right well, for sure, absolutely, And who knows where we
Speaker 2: would Who knows where we would have been if we
Speaker 2: lost to stand for the other night.
Speaker 6: I mean, I agree, you know, and and so what
Speaker 6: happens to us if we lose the If we lose
Speaker 6: to Clemson, you know, does it make us a ten
Speaker 6: seed all of a sudden. I mean it's crazy. But anyway,
Speaker 6: reaction to the Duke game real quick, Speaking of past
Speaker 6: phone calls, I don't know if you recall this or not,
Speaker 6: but I called in when we were six and five
Speaker 6: talking about seventeen and fourteen, and I sort of got
Speaker 6: on James Scott a little bit, you know, and and
Speaker 6: I was like, Hey, you know, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have to recruit over the guy. Blah blah
Speaker 6: blah blah and all that. Well, guess what, Saturday night,
Speaker 6: those those feelings came back to me again, and I
Speaker 6: can't help it. And I love James Scott and I
Speaker 6: think he's been awesome, you know. But but at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, again, as I said months ago,
Speaker 6: he's an offensive liability, plain and simple. And if Pat
Speaker 6: Kelsey tells me as a fan, he's a hard worker. Okay,
Speaker 6: he better get to work because if we want to
Speaker 6: get to the top of the mountain and to stay
Speaker 6: off the eight seed line, we've got to have somebody
Speaker 6: in the middle. Either James Scott, I much improved James
Speaker 6: Scott that can put his butt down on the block
Speaker 6: with another twenty pounds of muzzle and learn how to
Speaker 6: score on the block and then learn how to come
Speaker 6: out and hit a shot from the elbow or whatever.
Speaker 6: He's got to get more versatile offensively, okay, and there's
Speaker 6: no way around it. If he can't do that, then
Speaker 6: we got to recruit over him. It's the same with Rus.
Speaker 6: You know, early on I was super excited about him.
Speaker 6: But that dude has got to change his shot and
Speaker 6: he's got to put up a thousand shots a day
Speaker 6: during the offseason and he's got it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It just is what it is. I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: I am a happy fan. Okay, it might sound half
Speaker 6: glass half empty, but it's not. I give the staff
Speaker 6: an A plus for this year, but the talent level,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, is a B or B minus. And
Speaker 6: I think Saturday night it showed out like that. Okay,
Speaker 6: I'll give you three guys, real quick Waterman, Trey Or
Speaker 6: and Russ. They played fifty minutes Saturday and they gave
Speaker 6: us seven points and three rebounds. And that's what I'm
Speaker 6: talking about. When I talk about talent, I mean I
Speaker 6: believe me. Like I said, I love the team, but
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, to get to where
Speaker 6: we want to get with this program, a lot of
Speaker 6: things have to change, and it has to be our
Speaker 6: talent level. And one of the things I've always said
Speaker 6: is is Kelsey needed to win to be able to
Speaker 6: attract the talent. He's done that, so you know, I'm hopeful.
Speaker 6: I'm hopeful that we can win a game. You know, hey,
Speaker 6: let's play Auburn. Let's play Auburn Saturday and see what happens.
Speaker 6: That's all I got. Thanks for that.
Speaker 2: Go Cards appreciated Jerry, Go Cards.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wanted to let Jerry finish because he's usually pretty
Speaker 2: well planned out, and he was there, he was ready,
Speaker 2: he was ready to share what he had to say
Speaker 2: and James Scott and I remember exactly what he's talking
Speaker 2: about because it hit me at the time. Jerry said
Speaker 2: that that I can't help but agree with everything. But
Speaker 2: I also love James Scott, so I can't think of
Speaker 2: a player that I love. His effort, his energy, his attitude.
Speaker 2: I love everything about the guy. But he also at
Speaker 2: the same time drives me crazy and makes me more
Speaker 2: nervous than any other player that I felt that way about,
Speaker 2: because what James Scott like, what he's like, what he's
Speaker 2: got in his bag, he does that really really well,
Speaker 2: really well. High energy, he's physical. He isn't the biggest guy,
Speaker 2: but he's physical, plays his ass off. Will will get
Speaker 2: on the floor and he will finish above the rim,
Speaker 2: and he'll rim run like, he will give you everything.
Speaker 2: He'll he won't be outworked. And what again, when it
Speaker 2: comes to just being a guy, you throw it up there.
Speaker 2: He's near, he's got a knack for finishing, and he's
Speaker 2: really good at That's a that's a weapon that Louisville has.
Speaker 2: But every other aspect of his game offensively is absolutely
Speaker 2: a liability. And I don't think there's anything to do
Speaker 2: about it right now. But when he has the ball
Speaker 2: and it's not above the rim for him, about the dunket,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm worried because I think there's a good
Speaker 2: chance he's gonna You know, there are times where they
Speaker 2: give it to him, and I've seen him make some
Speaker 2: good passes and whatnot, But just when he's moving with
Speaker 2: the ball and there's a decision to be made or
Speaker 2: a shot to be taken, I just I feel like
Speaker 2: it's about to be a bad scenario. So you know,
Speaker 2: I think James is a perfect complimentary big and he
Speaker 2: can be a fine player his whole career here if
Speaker 2: he stays for the entire time by doing just simply
Speaker 2: what it is he does and continue to do that
Speaker 2: really well. But that probably won't result in him getting
Speaker 2: you know, thirty plus minutes a game moving forward. So
Speaker 2: I totally agree, and look the talent level. That goes
Speaker 2: back to why I have felt genuinely unable to be disappointed,
Speaker 2: because when they do have a setback, they lose or
Speaker 2: they nearly lose to somebody. Like I think we're getting
Speaker 2: the absolute most out of all these guys when it
Speaker 2: comes to their personnel. Like Trey Ore. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: he makes mistakes and he shouldn't miss lay ups things
Speaker 2: like that, but like, I don't think that he's got
Speaker 2: like an insane amount of talent, although he's talented player.
Speaker 2: You know, same thing with Waterman, and Waterman's injured too,
Speaker 2: by the way, he's not the same guy you brought
Speaker 2: in from BYU.
Speaker 4: So you know, Duke.
Speaker 2: The Duke game the other night was a reminder one
Speaker 2: you need Rain Smith. Clearly Rain Smith changes how teams
Speaker 2: defend you. And we'll talk a little bit more a
Speaker 2: little bit more about Rain later on, But what Saturday
Speaker 2: reminded you is that, look, when it comes to playing
Speaker 2: teams like Duke, and you could have beat him too.
Speaker 2: Maybe you would have beat him if you had your
Speaker 2: team at full strength, meaning you know you've got they
Speaker 2: or you've got rain out there. But if you've got
Speaker 2: rain and they've got Cooper Flagg, you're still gonna probably
Speaker 2: have a tough meat. That would be a really tough
Speaker 2: matchup right, you'd have a tough time winning. I think
Speaker 2: guys like Nata Mint and the five star point guard
Speaker 2: who's on his way here that's in the top ten
Speaker 2: in the country, like those are the kind of guys
Speaker 2: that can help like Duke has all that's all Duke's players,
Speaker 2: as far as the majority of the guys who play
Speaker 2: their minutes. So you know, I think, you know, in
Speaker 2: order like Pat Kelsey can win at a high level
Speaker 2: with the kind of guys he has. Now I think,
Speaker 2: you know, moving forward, I think he can be a winner.
Speaker 2: But I think to have Louisville in the conversation of
Speaker 2: being one of the best teams in the country that's
Speaker 2: got a chance to potentially cut down nets at a
Speaker 2: final four. You take the kind of personnel you have now,
Speaker 2: and you add a couple of guys that you know,
Speaker 2: just have some NBA ability, They've got some things in
Speaker 2: their bag that most don't, and Duke clearly has that
Speaker 2: with a handful of players. All right, quick break, we'll
Speaker 2: do this on the other side. We'll finish up the
Speaker 2: four o'clock hour with nothing but phone calls. We'll go
Speaker 2: to Kirk, We'll go to Cody, who are both on hold.
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Speaker 2: We haven't talked much about the games Saturday, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday, the Clemson win and of course the
Speaker 2: Duke loss, and we can do that a little bit
Speaker 2: in the five o'clock hour. I don't really have a
Speaker 2: whole lot to share that. You know, you guys probably
Speaker 2: don't agree with tough to lose, but obviously I felt
Speaker 2: like for the most part, they competed and fell short
Speaker 2: to a team that's just clearly better even without Cooper
Speaker 2: flag they're Duke's a special group. I mean, they've got
Speaker 2: a hell of a team. And you know, had Lowell
Speaker 2: head Rainsmith could have been a little bit different. Chucky,
Speaker 2: I think you know didn't clearly didn't. Was not as
Speaker 2: aggressive and as assertive as you need him to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the kind of game against that kind
Speaker 2: of team you need to be healthy. You need your
Speaker 2: best players to kind of be the best version or
Speaker 2: close to it of themselves, and LOUI of it, just
Speaker 2: didn't didn't quite have that. You know, Terrence Edwards was
Speaker 2: phenomenal in that game, and I I mean it's a loss,
Speaker 2: but that's that's that's a performance. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: remember a long time seeing him just give Duke work
Speaker 2: like that. That was that was impressive. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to the phone lines, fib I've sent nine the
Speaker 2: number you guys want to join us, and I will
Speaker 2: now go to Kirk. What's happening, man?
Speaker 7: Hey? What's going on? Nick? How you doing today?
Speaker 1: Buddy?
Speaker 2: Doing well?
Speaker 4: Doing well? Yourself?
Speaker 7: Well, I'm doing pretty good, I guess, but I I
Speaker 7: just want to know who's sitting on top of that
Speaker 7: he man Louisville Haters Club. I tell you man, it's
Speaker 7: it's uh, it's really upsetting to see, you know, the
Speaker 7: way this is unfolded. But let me tell you man.
Speaker 7: You know, back in the day, like I was telling Austin,
Speaker 7: you know, back in the day in the eighties, when
Speaker 7: we used to go to the Louisville games, and when
Speaker 7: they won the championship in eighty six, we all went
Speaker 7: to the U eighty six you know, celebration, and we
Speaker 7: had a mantra back then it was called the Cardinal cannonball,
Speaker 7: and I'm hashtagging that back. We're we're ringing in the
Speaker 7: Cardinal cannon ball this year and we're gonna run through
Speaker 7: this tournament. Show everybody. Eight seed. Who I mean, it's just,
Speaker 7: you know, unbelievable that we're ranked number thirteen and we
Speaker 7: come in at an eight seed. Over the last you know,
Speaker 7: twelve or thirteen years, you know, the thirteenth rates ranked
Speaker 7: team has been a five seed or less.
Speaker 2: So check and check this out, Kirk, Louisville's now tenth.
Speaker 2: So when the tournament starts, when they play on Thursday
Speaker 2: at noon, they'll be the number ten team in the
Speaker 2: country and the apeop pole and they'll be an eight seed,
Speaker 2: whereas all the other teams ahead of them are ones, twos,
Speaker 2: and then there's one three. I mean again, the a
Speaker 2: peopole isn't isn't what's utilized. But doesn't it just show
Speaker 2: you that the committee seems to be Louisville in a
Speaker 2: way that nobody else does.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's unbelievable in Louisville, for some reason, has to
Speaker 7: be the team that has to be you know, made
Speaker 7: an example of because because you know, the unprecedented, because
Speaker 7: look we had a title forfeited over what I mean,
Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of arguments about it, but
Speaker 7: you know, just the unprecedented. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 7: the last time Louisville lost the game, we went on
Speaker 7: a twenty ten another ten eleven game winning streak, and
Speaker 7: I have a feeling we're gonna do it again because
Speaker 7: I feel like every team has to have that humbling loss.
Speaker 7: I think louis was gonna pull it together and we're
Speaker 7: gonna we're gonna ar our ugly heads, bro Hope.
Speaker 2: So thank you for the call, Kirk. I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now that the shock is wearing off and it's clearly
Speaker 2: a real thing that they got an eight seed. I
Speaker 2: I've been in disbelief for a good while since it happened,
Speaker 2: but now that it is starting to wear off, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to kind of really get, you know, understand how
Speaker 2: crazy it is that we get to play and rup
Speaker 2: like that's I mean that Louisville is actually the second
Speaker 2: closest team as far as their tournament game and where
Speaker 2: they're located, Duke is the closest. Not a surprise at all, Right,
Speaker 2: and eight seeds usually don't get preferential treatment. And I'll
Speaker 2: say this and we'll get to one more phone call
Speaker 2: before we got to get out of here. I mean,
Speaker 2: as much as I think we understandably deserve to be,
Speaker 2: you know, outraged by this injustice of Louisville being seed
Speaker 2: to eight, you gotta be mad as hell if you're crating,
Speaker 2: or if you're already. I mean, Auburn's not saying they're
Speaker 2: scared of Louisville, and I don't think they are, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they look at Louisville as a
Speaker 2: team they could play in the second round and roup
Speaker 2: and realize that's gonna be a tough It's gonna be
Speaker 2: tough out for them, especially considering you know that the
Speaker 2: committee said that the number one overall seed. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go back to the on lines. Let's welcome in Cody. Cody,
Speaker 2: you're on Sports Talk seven ninety. What's happening, brother?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 8: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 8: Just going back to a lot of what you said, brother,
Speaker 8: about how I just don't understand how a team can
Speaker 8: be like you said just literally five seconds ago, about
Speaker 8: how a team can be the number ten overall seed
Speaker 8: in the Ape Pole, which is the most important one,
Speaker 8: and then we still get a number eight seed overall
Speaker 8: in the tournament. I mean, it just doesn't like I'm
Speaker 8: just not correlating how that makes any sense. And then
Speaker 8: even going back to what you said again, Nick, I'm
Speaker 8: pissed off everybody. I'll be rambling. I'm sorry about what
Speaker 8: you said as well about how we didn't even have
Speaker 8: to wait to see how bad we got screwed. Like
Speaker 8: I think it would almost been a little bit better
Speaker 8: if we were the last team shown, yep, to where
Speaker 8: we got to see all the other teams. But it's like, no,
Speaker 8: the first thing that we get to see is how
Speaker 8: Louisville is an eight seed. And again literally going back
Speaker 8: to what you said again, If I was Auburn, I
Speaker 8: would be royally pissed because I mean, obviously Auburn is
Speaker 8: better than Louisville. I mean, nobody's gonna argue that. And
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I'm such an Auburn hater. I would
Speaker 8: almost rather see Kentucky wins this year. I cannot stands
Speaker 8: an eye Brew. I cannot stand Baker Mazara that's been
Speaker 8: in college since the Stone Age.
Speaker 2: Dislike, I'll give you that.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's insane, like, I mean literally everything
Speaker 8: they do. They have to start taunting, they're up twenty
Speaker 8: seven and make a lay of and they have to
Speaker 8: start flexing. That is it's so annoying, Nick. But I mean,
Speaker 8: going back to what you said, we have every reason
Speaker 8: to be pissed off that we were screwed. We beat
Speaker 8: Clemson twice. Clemton gets a five seed and there were
Speaker 8: number ten overall, and we get an eight seed like
Speaker 8: the math ain't mapping man. And my last thing, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna hang up, and how do they give North Carolina
Speaker 8: that spot? If it's something about the eighth sec? So
Speaker 8: if North Carolina is an eleven seeds and louisvell is
Speaker 8: a number eight seed. You mean to tell me Louisbells
Speaker 8: only three seeds better than North Carolina who they beat
Speaker 8: this year, and they were in the same conference and
Speaker 8: finished second, and North Carolina was fifth and they were
Speaker 8: one to twelve in quad one games. I want to
Speaker 8: hang up and listen to Buddy love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Cody.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, that's the one thing that just makes this
Speaker 2: feel a little bit different than any other time I've
Speaker 2: disagreed with the committee as far as where they seed
Speaker 2: my team or really where they seed anybody. Is that
Speaker 2: there's just you know, the because what you can do,
Speaker 2: you can you can quite literally decide you're going to
Speaker 2: seed the team here and do this and then build
Speaker 2: around it to build your explanation as to how you
Speaker 2: got there. Does it make sense like you can you know,
Speaker 2: you can set up your own seating to justify where
Speaker 2: you put other teams. Well, the ACC didn't seem to
Speaker 2: really get any real blowback from from the committee as
Speaker 2: far as being down. But the only other than Louis
Speaker 2: the Louis being seeded eight is the only thing that
Speaker 2: would make you think that they don't respect the ACC
Speaker 2: because Carolina getting in tells you that that, I mean,
Speaker 2: brand clearly matters too, and Bubba Cunningham I think had
Speaker 2: something to do with it as well. But it's this
Speaker 2: is one to where you know, there's just no scenario
Speaker 2: they would be able to justify it, and therefore like
Speaker 2: just knowing that it's it's just whatever they say, and
Speaker 2: that's what like, there's no way to mean. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying we should fight it or file, you know, a
Speaker 2: lawsuit like West Virginia's doing, but I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: a different feeling from for selection Sunday for me. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back and what we're gonna do
Speaker 2: on the other side. We'll start the five o'clock hour
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