WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:08.119 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:22.519 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nit coffee. 3 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.519 That's right, hour number two here on a Monday afternoon, 4 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:31.760 Coffee and company fueled by Thornton's our annual Monday Marathon 5 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.479 percent about Carriage Forward. So if you've already filled out 6 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.280 a bracket, good for you. I have it yet I'm 7 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.399 going to I don't know why, but I feel good 8 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.280 about my ability to accurately predict a bracket for the 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.079 first time in a while, which means I'm likely gonna 10 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.719 do terrible And of course I'm really excited about betting 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:50.039 on it. But when it comes to a way for 12 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.000 you to win money based off your picks, we've got 13 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:54.359 a chance for you to win a lot of money. 14 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.159 In fact, a million dollars is up for grabs. So 15 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:58.960 we've got a contest currently going on. We've go to 16 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:02.000 seven ninety Louis dot com. You'll see it right there. 17 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.400 It is our basketball Mayhem twenty twenty five percent about 18 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:08.400 Salserita's Fresh Mexican grill. So again, seven ninety leuivel dot com. 19 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.159 I'm sure you've probably already filled out your bracket and 20 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:13.439 have it handy so you know, you can just reference 21 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.280 your bracket and fill it out. Or maybe you want 22 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:16.319 to do a little bit, maybe you want to go 23 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:20.280 a little different, which gives me the h gives me 24 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.120 the I haven't even asked you this yet, Austin. Are 25 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:23.920 you a multiple bracket guy or you do one? Or 26 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:24.959 do you do brackets at all? 27 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.079 I've traditionally always done too, especially when Louisville's in it, 28 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.000 and of course I go with the heart and I 29 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:32.760 put Louisville to win, and then I just kind of 30 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.799 go with a little more thoughtful one, and I'll probably 31 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:36.680 do the same this year. 32 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.599 I think a lot of people that watch college basketball 33 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.959 are doing it exactly the way you just mentioned. They'll 34 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.079 have one that is a little bit more lucy goosey, 35 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.159 more so what you want to see rather than what 36 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.200 you predict will happen. And then you have one where 37 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.560 you feel like, you know, you're just trying to be 38 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.879 as objective as possible. And then there's some that fill out, 39 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:55.239 you know, a ton of them, and at that point 40 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:56.519 it just gets too hard for me to keep up 41 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.200 with exactly. I'm not against anybody filling out as many 42 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.439 brackets as they want. For me, if I did more 43 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:04.040 than two, I would not I And that's really what 44 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.359 makes it fun is to be able to you know, 45 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:08.039 track and see how well you're doing in your bracket, right, 46 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:09.879 Like if you don't have a clue what the root 47 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.759 for because on this bracket you pick that. On the 48 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.080 other bracket you get something different. It just becomes to me, 49 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:15.960 it becomes too much work, yeah, for something that you're 50 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.120 supposed to, you know, just enjoy. 51 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.639 It's almost the same thing with like fantasy football, Like 52 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.199 it used to be fun when you had like six 53 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.639 different teams, but it's too many to track. 54 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:25.599 It's too many to track and keep up with. 55 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.120 And I don't know when you have lesser brackets, I 56 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:29.960 think it makes it fun just because you can be 57 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.840 like that is a true bracketbuster because and now your 58 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.960 bracket is completely busted because you only had one or 59 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:35.360 two in. 60 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.400 Yeah, I think. I mean the people who love college 61 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.400 basketball like us, I mean, we're consuming it year round. 62 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.120 We're of course going to fill out brackets, we watch 63 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.800 it throughout the season, we bet on it. But I 64 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:53.240 think you know, for me, I don't really you know, 65 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:56.800 bracket the whole like the the whole, like just having 66 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.000 a bracket in front of you. Brackets are great content, 67 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.479 by the way, for anything like movie bracket through bracket, 68 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:03.759 like when it comes to just content that a lot 69 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.599 of people will will take in and react to, like 70 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.400 a bracket about anything is a good way to go. 71 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.360 And of course you've got a sixty eight sixty eight 72 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.639 field tournament here that's got a humongous bracket. So that's 73 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.719 what makes the tournament really cool is the bracket itself. 74 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.759 And I think that's why you see people really. I mean, look, 75 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.800 March Madness is a big deal across the country, but 76 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:27.919 college basketball is not a big deal across the country 77 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.000 for any time really other than you know, right now. 78 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.080 So what I'm getting at is, I think for us, 79 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.199 like we're always going to fill out brackets, but I 80 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.800 don't think they're is special to me now and I'm 81 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.159 sure I'm not alone. And it's because like the thought 82 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.159 of winning your bracket pool is cool. But you know what, 83 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.240 I can win money every day betting on college basketball. 84 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:43.680 That makes sense. 85 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:49.080 Like I think fantasy football is dying and within certain 86 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.680 age ranges, because you know, you can just do daily 87 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.759 fantasy and you can bet on games and like that's 88 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:55.080 that's enough of a thrill. 89 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:56.360 Yeah, and it's it's. 90 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.280 An instant thing. It's it's I mean, it's easy to. 91 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.039 Do and win as much money as you can waiting 92 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.879 five months for the season and like a weekend. 93 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:06.879 And it's more work too. Yeah, like it just you know, 94 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.719 I mean, I'm I'll never leave my league voluntarily. They 95 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:11.039 may kick me out because I'm you know, I'm not 96 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.560 very good and I at times have been the guy 97 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:14.840 to you know, forget to set the line up, which 98 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.040 isn't good. But like I just it's not it's not 99 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:18.759 something I really think about a whole lot, because I'm 100 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:20.759 more worried about, you know, logging into one of these 101 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.920 sportsbooks and making wagers. So again, I will certainly fill 102 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.120 out a bracket and follow along and see how I do. 103 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:29.959 But more than anything, I'm going to be thinking about, 104 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:31.600 you know, which games I want to bet on when 105 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.519 we get to Thursday and Friday, in fact even tomorrow. 106 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:35.879 In the playing games. I mean, there's probably some good 107 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:39.040 games there too. And n I T. The n I 108 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:40.720 T has been good to me when it comes to wagers, 109 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:45.079 because I don't I mean, it's probably just luck. But 110 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.439 I think in the n I t it's a pretty 111 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:51.079 easy thing to determine, you know, which teams really are 112 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.439 going to embrace being there and which teams quite quite literally, 113 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:55.800 you know, clearly don't want to be there, you know 114 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.839 what I mean. Like Georgia Tech, they finished the season 115 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.399 really strong and they ended up being a weird team 116 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.600 that had some good wins. You know, they're only five 117 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.759 and a half point favorites over Jacksonville State. They may lose, 118 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.120 but like Georgia Tech is a good enough Georgia Tech 119 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.199 has talent that if they're into it, they should be 120 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:13.480 able to not win the whole NIIT, but like they 121 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.360 could win a few games, maybe they beat you know, 122 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.279 maybe they be Jacksonville stayed by Tundamar. 123 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:17.639 I don't know. 124 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:19.439 But anyways, we're not talking about the ant day. We're 125 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.800 talking about THENTABL the tournament. And I mentioned this early 126 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:24.360 on in the show for those that weren't with us. 127 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.480 I think yesterday was as disappointed as I've been as 128 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.439 a Louisville basketball fan in a long long time. And 129 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.560 I think disappointment. For you to have that feeling, I 130 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.319 think you have to have some level of expectation, and 131 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.199 this season was so awesome, and it was because one 132 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.519 they were successful. They were a lovable group. This team. 133 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:45.199 I'm talking about them like it's their funeral, like they're 134 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:46.480 dead and they're not. I mean, they still got a 135 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.240 chance to, you know, to make a run. 136 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:48.399 Here. 137 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.839 They're in the tournament, and that's great. But the disappointment 138 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:52.360 set in because again, there was not a whole lot 139 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.720 of expectation really throughout the entire year. Until you know, 140 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:56.639 they proved they were good enough to make the tournament. 141 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.000 You didn't have to worry about being on the bubble. 142 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.240 And when they lost games earlier this seas, I was sad, 143 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.800 but I don't think disappointment would be one of the 144 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:06.800 emotions I had when they got blown out by All 145 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.600 miss or when they came up short against Duke in Kentucky, 146 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.879 and when they got killed by Tennessee, when they lost 147 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.399 to Oklahoma, even when they lost to Georgia Tech. That 148 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:15.959 was the head scratcher. But at the end of the day, 149 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:19.759 like that happens, and I couldn't be disappointed because I 150 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.439 just I feel like, hey, they're probably they were probably 151 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:24.399 due for a loss, and at this point it wasn't 152 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.040 because they came out and didn't give effort. They just 153 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.040 they had a bad night. So the Kinny Payne era, 154 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.439 I mean, I was disappointed from the beginning, and then 155 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.120 it kind of just you know, disappointed, Like it's the 156 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.519 same thing. Expectation is certainly a factor in how you 157 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:40.040 go back and forth on you know, where your emotions are. 158 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.480 How could I be disappointed after every Louisville basketball game 159 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.279 when I know that the team stunk and was gonna 160 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.639 mean they you know, when they we were numb to it, 161 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.680 So there was really no I mean I was disappointed overall, 162 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.600 but like I was overall disappointed to a level that 163 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.240 like I'd already dealt with it, you know what I mean, 164 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.839 Like Kenny Payne had ten games left in his in 165 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.800 his in his second and final season. I mean, I 166 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.199 couldn't be disappointed in them losing to somebody if I tried, 167 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.639 because again, it's not a result I want. But like, 168 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.199 I'm not gonna lie to myself and act like they 169 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.720 should have won some of these games when I knew 170 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.720 they were terrible. So to see and it was such 171 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.759 an unexpected jab. I mean, it hit me right in 172 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.800 the in the you know what, because I just couldn't 173 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:24.079 believe it. 174 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:24.319 I was. 175 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:28.240 I was, I was, I was beside myself and and 176 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.759 and I know when we were simulcasting earlier with the 177 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.639 crew over at h as Dave Jennings mentioned it, and 178 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.879 I couldn't agree more. Seeing your team get seated so 179 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:42.040 wildly off of what you expected and what everybody else expected, 180 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.920 and have it be the second game announced in the 181 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:45.959 bracket unveiling. 182 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.319 Oh yeah, that made it worse. 183 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.480 Like I can't really tell you why it made it worse, 184 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:51.600 but like it made it really really. I mean, if 185 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.040 you're gonna give me that kind of news, I mean, 186 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.160 I guess there's no way. Yeah, there's no good way 187 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:58.759 to do it, but I don't know. Just like as 188 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:00.720 soon as sort of I set down with my beer, 189 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:02.639 I'm like, oh wait, well what you have my way? 190 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:03.360 This can't be real. 191 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:04.800 We're usually kind of waiting for that. 192 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.079 Yeah, I mean it was. It was a real I mean, 193 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.439 I was disappointed, and I still am. I'll be honest 194 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.879 with you, I haven't really thought a whole lot about 195 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.439 the Creighton game just yet. I'm going to get there, 196 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:18.079 but today's a day where you know, I think it 197 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.759 It reminded me of just how it can linger when 198 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.160 it comes to being disappointed about louis basketball, because it's 199 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.079 something and I know I'm not alone. It's something that 200 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.399 I probably cared too much about, right, Like, it's probably 201 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:30.079 not healthy for me to care this much, but it's 202 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:31.879 it's just how I am, and I you know, I 203 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:33.679 don't think I could be any other way. And I know 204 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.480 a lot of you probably agree. But even during the 205 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.080 roller coaster of this year, as I mentioned, with the injuries, 206 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:42.240 and again you know, it hadn't been it han't always 207 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.200 been perfect, but I couldn't be disappointed because I still 208 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.879 felt like they were it was it was really best 209 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.960 case scenario and given circumstances, like it was an awesome ride. 210 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.799 But yesterday, what a feeling of disappointment. And I still 211 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.080 am in disbelief that it played out the way that 212 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:00.519 it did. I mean, I was joking earlier, but I 213 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.919 also wanted I'll clarify sort of my thoughts on this, 214 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.759 because for those who haven't seen it, you could make 215 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.120 the case that just by looking at the numbers here 216 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.960 and really knowing conference afiliation, that they might have just 217 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:21.559 accidentally swapped Memphis in Louisville. As as stupid as that sounds. 218 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.000 And again I can't tell you with the straight face 219 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:25.120 that like I'm accusing them of that. But if they 220 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.240 did it and we found out, which we never would, 221 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:30.120 I wouldn't be shocked because again, look at the difference 222 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:36.759 in these two teams. Memphis in the NET forty ninth 223 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:39.559 they get a five seed, Louisville twenty fourth, they get 224 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.480 an eight seed. Again, the NET is created by the 225 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.519 nc DOUBLEA, So you can throw out Ken Palm, Torvik, RPI, BPI, 226 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.679 NTI at home with your kids, whatever you want to use. 227 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.200 The NET ranking is quite literally with the NCAA created. Therefore, 228 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.559 they're going to factor that in more than anything. And 229 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.879 to see that big of a difference seed line when 230 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:04.679 one team, yes, Memphis played a tough non conference schedule 231 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:06.360 and they won a couple of games that have value, 232 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.120 but to get them a five, it just doesn't make 233 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.679 any sense. If Louisville is an eight, RPI Louisville sixteen, 234 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.919 Memphis twenty two, Ken Palm Louisville twenty three, Memphis thirty four, 235 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:21.480 Bart Torvick Louisville nineteenth, Clempson or Memphis forty, and it 236 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:23.840 could keep in mind this Bart Torvik formula is the 237 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.200 newest one that they're utilizing that they were supposed to 238 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.120 be factoring in this year. Clearly they didn't, and he 239 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.639 referenced it. Bubba Cunningham referenced the Bart Torvick ranking when it, 240 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.840 you know, when what they were doing differently this year 241 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:39.000 and no, and reference Louisville when talking about it, and 242 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:42.000 they're twenty one spots off. Memphis gets a five, Louisville 243 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.759 gets an eight. And I don't really like to use 244 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.399 the ESPN BPI because I think ESPN's formulas all suck. 245 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:51.639 But Lowell's twentieth Memphis is forty second. I mean again, 246 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:57.639 like yes, maybe let me like, maybe you're valuing Memphis 247 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.879 and what they did in their conference because they did 248 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.720 win their conference, right, Memphis did, but they won the 249 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.799 American Athletic Conference, a conference that's a one bid league, 250 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.000 a conference that nobody else was going to get in. 251 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.759 I mean, if UAB beats Memphis, that would have been 252 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.799 a bid stealer. So you're telling me that you can 253 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.519 get a five seed by because of like if what's 254 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:23.600 a separator between you and other teams is that you 255 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.960 won your conference in the regular season, in the tournament, 256 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.279 but it's a one bid league. I mean again, and 257 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:34.120 Louisville played in the ACC championship game and they went 258 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:36.360 eighteen and two in that league. And I know the 259 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.840 league's down, but it's better than the American by every 260 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:44.200 single objective, every measure, and also the committee. The Louisville 261 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.559 being seated eighth is the only sign they gave you 262 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.120 that they didn't respect the ACC. Clemson getting a five 263 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:55.559 shows you that they respected the ACC. Dude, getting a 264 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.639 number one overall was going to happen regardless, So it's 265 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.200 not really about like it would have been. I mean, 266 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:00.799 there's just no way to do could be seated anything 267 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:06.000 other than one, But Carolina getting in another sign that 268 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.440 you know, you can be who they were and get 269 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.440 in despite your league not being great and you not 270 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:11.879 being one of the better teams in your league. It 271 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.080 just doesn't make any sense. And again I'm not accusing 272 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.919 them of that. Part of me still thinks that there's 273 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.080 no scenario that could actually happen, but crazier things have happened, 274 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.080 and that would actually make sense because Louisville being seated 275 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.600 eight than Memphis being seated fifth. There's not a single 276 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.360 scenario where you could justify how they came up with that. 277 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:32.639 And I'm not even telling you that like Louisville should 278 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:34.679 have been seated way higher than Memphis. Trust me, that's 279 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.879 not what I mean at all. I'm just saying, you know, 280 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:41.200 when it comes down to it, Memphis played in a 281 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.879 league that is substantially worse than the ACC, even when 282 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.480 the ACC, as we know, is way down, and they 283 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:51.600 have losses to Whichita State, they have losses to Temple, 284 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:55.039 they have lost to Arkansas State on their home floor. 285 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.279 So you know, yeah, they did beat Michigan State and 286 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:00.639 that win had a lot of value. They got them 287 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.600 in maw if you remember, and they beat Clemson in overtime. 288 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:10.639 But other than that, I mean, for every good win 289 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:13.039 that they got a lot of credit for, it clearly 290 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:14.879 didn't mean a whole lot when it comes to the numbers. 291 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.399 And also they didn't get held account and that is 292 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.480 without question one of the most noticeable things throughout the end. 293 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.480 If there is one thing they did consistently this year, 294 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.600 they didn't punish you for bad losses. You didn't get 295 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.679 pun I mean, like, you can't be a five seed 296 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.960 if you're Clemson with losses to Arkansas State, which a 297 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:36.120 tall state and Temple, I mean in a one big league, 298 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:39.799 no less. So again, if you would have told me, 299 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.480 and I would, I worried about this here and there. 300 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.200 I kept bringing it up, not till like and I 301 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.840 kept trying to, you know, get out of the conversation 302 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:47.440 because I didn't want to sound like I was being 303 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.440 you know, I didn't want to think about a scenario 304 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:51.320 where we'd end up here. And I knew some people 305 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.000 told me I was crazy when I would act like 306 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.320 Louisville could potentially be held accountable, like for the fact that, yeah, 307 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:57.720 they won a lot of games, but man, who they 308 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:59.720 beat don't mean they're bad, but it's just it is 309 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.440 what it is. Like I worry about that because I 310 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.320 knew going into yesterday Louisville their best win was Clemson twice, 311 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.080 and they didn't get their best win until they beat 312 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.519 Clemson on a neutral just two days ago or three 313 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.559 days ago. So those are your best wins one win 314 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:19.000 or two wins against the same team, one home, one neutral. 315 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.440 And then you beat Carolina, a team that at the 316 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.960 time yesterday before the selection show, I didn't think Carolina 317 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.080 was getting in, did you, I didn't, So that was 318 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.200 something I couldn't really escape. But then I would look 319 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:34.600 at every single bracketologist out there, bracket matrix. You also, again, 320 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:39.879 you did add value right before selection Sunday. You beat Clemson, 321 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.759 and then you played Duke competitively in Charlotte, and I 322 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.879 know Cooper Flag didn't play, but man, I really felt 323 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:50.080 like collectively Louisville being up at the half against Duke 324 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.000 and clearly competing with them in a good game, I 325 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:57.080 thought that would have removed the the you know, I 326 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.480 thought it would have wavered those who were not willing 327 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.879 to give them the benefited out because yes, all their 328 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.879 losses for the most part were to really really good 329 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.440 teams and they don't have any real big wins. 330 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:07.679 But man, like, you know. 331 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.960 They showed who they were. But I think everybody else 332 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:13.919 probably did see it that way, other than the ones 333 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:17.240 who matter, which of course is the selection committee. So 334 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.240 again two, I mean, it's crazy to think about Austin 335 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.600 and we'll never know, but Louisville, if Chucky doesn't hit 336 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:25.799 the game winner against Stanford and we go to overtime 337 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.080 and lose or maybe they just don't make that comeback, 338 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.279 would Louisvill have been in the playing game I mean. 339 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:31.399 It's a scary thought, isn't it. 340 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.279 Yeah, because you know you would have not even had 341 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.600 the chance to get your best win that you ended 342 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:39.399 up getting that of course, you know just came the 343 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.159 day after that. So I mean, I just I don't know. 344 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.639 The more I the more I just ramble about it, dude, 345 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:47.120 the more I think, like I'm sounding like that tenfoil 346 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:51.120 hat lunatic because I'm starting to talk myself into thinking 347 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.360 the only explanation is they just mixed up the two teams. 348 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.240 Someone got someone forgot about it. 349 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.600 I mean, cause again, I know Clemson Beaton and I 350 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.080 know they beat Duke, and those are monstrous wins. Those 351 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.240 wins have value. But they also lost to a Memphis 352 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.080 team that I didn't expect to be, you know, a 353 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.679 team seeded fifth in the tournament. I mean they also 354 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.679 lost to Boise, who did not end up getting in, 355 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.759 right or did they get in. 356 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:17.080 I don't think Boise get in. 357 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.519 I don't think Boise did no. So I mean, let's 358 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.399 look at Clemson, and again I'm not I'm not even 359 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.240 I can't. It's hard to tear down Clemson because you 360 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:28.039 know that's your best win, and the better that they 361 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.000 are viewed by the committee, the better it is for you, 362 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.879 at least we thought, because again the committee thinks they're 363 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.919 a five seed, but Louisll seemingly didn't get any credit 364 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.960 for beating them. I mean, South Carolina was a bad loss, 365 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.960 Boise was a bad loss. Georgia Tech Louisville had that 366 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.519 same loss too. So I mean, I just I don't 367 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:49.399 know the one thing that really has me usually I don't. 368 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:51.399 I mean, again, getting worked up about this is not 369 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.639 going to benefit anybody, trust me. 370 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:54.120 I know that I'll just let it out. 371 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.279 But I've just never been in a position to where 372 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:02.279 I've seen it with just because again, if you seed 373 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.599 in the ACC differently, I'd still hate it and disagree 374 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:08.519 with it. But you know I could, I could live 375 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:10.319 with it because you just told us that our league 376 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.559 stunk and we didn't get any value for going eighteen 377 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:14.920 and two. But they didn't do that. They put Caroline in. 378 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.960 They gave Clemson a five seed like that, Like it 379 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:19.799 just doesn't make any sense at all. Real quick, before 380 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:21.440 we get to our next break, let's hear Pat Kelsey. 381 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:22.559 This was him. 382 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.359 He had a couple of different radio interviews nationally since 383 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:27.960 since finding out his team was seated at number eight, 384 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.119 and clearly you could tell by the body language shown 385 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.920 by him specifically and some others in the room, and 386 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:35.440 they had the you know, they showed it on on 387 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:39.160 the broadcast. They were stunned and as you could expect, 388 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:40.119 feeling a little slighted. 389 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.880 I'll be completely honest with you, Like when we're watching 390 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.519 the selection show, it was like when that popped up, 391 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.799 it hurt a little bit. You felt slighted a little bit. 392 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.359 You know, it is what it is. At this point 393 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.559 do you have the advantage of no choice, but you know, 394 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.880 my opinion, we should be playing a twelve ver eleven seed. 395 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:55.319 I'm totally with him. 396 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:57.599 By the way, that was that was from ESPN Radio 397 00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:59.599 with Matt Jones last night on the on the March 398 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.880 Badness Racket Show, and then earlier today I believe this 399 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:06.279 was this morning on Mad Dog Serious xm kelsey was 400 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.000 on and also talking about the same thing. Here here's 401 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:09.599