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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty bill handle here it is a

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Tuesday, May thirteenth, and every Tuesday, as always, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for Rich Demurou, kfi's tech guy, who is seen

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<v Speaker 1>on Channel five KTLA every day Saturdays here on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am to two pm Instagram at Rich on tech website,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on tech dot TV, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning Rich, Hey, good morning you Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a lot of things to talk about, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to talk about phones for a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that's a gadget that I almost understand,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of them not so much. And the ultrathin phones.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we've been around where we have seen phones,

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<v Speaker 1>portable phones go all the way from those that were

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<v Speaker 1>as big as bricks with the antenna down to phones

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<v Speaker 1>that are so thin, so small, And now Samsung has

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<v Speaker 1>come up with an ultra thin phone, even thinner than

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<v Speaker 1>the phones we have now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's quite wild. I was in New York last

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<v Speaker 3>week to check it out, and it's thin. It's noticeably

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<v Speaker 3>like you pick this thing up and you're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>this is really thin. It's light, it's easy to hold.

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<v Speaker 3>The main drawback to this is going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>battery life. Well, we'll see when we test it. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that for sure, but the battery is smaller

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<v Speaker 3>than your typical phone. But here's the deal on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. It's five

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<v Speaker 3>point eight millimeters thick, one hundred and sixty three grams.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thinnest Samsung phone they've ever made. But it

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<v Speaker 3>still has the latest feature So it's got a great camera,

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred megapixel camera ultra wide. It's got the latest processor,

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<v Speaker 3>it's got a good amount of RAM and storage, comes

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<v Speaker 3>in three colors, wireless charging, it's water resistant, and it

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<v Speaker 3>ships on May thirtieth. The price tag is eleven hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a couple hundred dollars less than the Ultra,

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<v Speaker 3>which is their top of the line, but one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars more than the Plus, which is the one that

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<v Speaker 3>they're sort of positioning these between. So again, one more

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<v Speaker 3>option for folks. And we do know Bill that Apple

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<v Speaker 3>is rumored to be coming out with their version of

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<v Speaker 3>a thin iPhone called the iPhone Air. That's the expected name.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know if that's true or not, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to come out later this year. So look, it's

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<v Speaker 3>all about options for folks at this point because the

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone market has been a little bit stagnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean when you describe weight, for example, in

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<v Speaker 1>grams other than buying cocaine, who the hell knows what.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly? Well, I know it's more cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Yeah, I mean, look, there there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of drug dealers out there that are like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good amount of weight on that phone. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to me, it's actually very I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a gram, a lot, or a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have no idea. I'm not really in that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>nor am I.

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<v Speaker 1>Graham's about one hundred and twenty bucks. She used to

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<v Speaker 1>be maybe one hundred and ten on a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't really gone up. Okay, when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about phones that are that thin, my immediately what comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. Since I sit on my phone a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and I put it in my back pocket, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>have a phone that is going to bend in the

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<v Speaker 1>shape of your butt when you sit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And look, that's going to be the big thing

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<v Speaker 3>to test on this phone is the durability because of

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<v Speaker 3>all those reasons. So when we got the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that these companies typically do it, they give

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<v Speaker 3>folks hands on so you get to see this first,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't really get to review it or play

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<v Speaker 3>with it until maybe a week or two later. So

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have the phones in hand just yet for

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<v Speaker 3>long term testing, but that should come soon hopefully, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when people are going to test it. There's this

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<v Speaker 3>guy on YouTube, Jerry Rigg. He does you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>these crazy the torture tests on different phones, So of

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<v Speaker 3>course he will be bending the heck out of this

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<v Speaker 3>thing to see if it actually bends in your pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that it doesn't because in.

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<v Speaker 3>My you know, first hands on, it did feel very

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<v Speaker 3>strong and it is made out of titanium. So hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>Samsung thought about that and said, yeah, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>still put this thing in their back pocket. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to make it you know where it's gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people better off instead of buying the new

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<v Speaker 1>phone every two years because whatever program you're on, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to upgrade and it doesn't cost you anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I have to do is extend the contract. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a far better deal simply to buy the phone

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<v Speaker 1>that's two years old, because you're really not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that much more benefit on a new phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, you know this is this gets into

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<v Speaker 3>consumerism and you know, the latest, the greatest, like phones

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<v Speaker 3>nowadays are you know some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the the software.

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<v Speaker 3>Updates on today's phones. For Apple is anywhere from five

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<v Speaker 3>to six years. For Google it's seven years. So that

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<v Speaker 3>gives you an idea of how long you can keep

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<v Speaker 3>your phone. Most people are keeping them for about I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's about thirty nine months at this point, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can keep your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>For a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not need to upgrade every year for sures

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<v Speaker 3>you unless you're a photographer, a content a content.

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<v Speaker 2>Creator, or a videographer. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of everyone else in the world can pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much upgrade every three years. But you know, the plans

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<v Speaker 3>that people are on give me the ability to upgrade more,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what the carriers want because you're spending more money.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really a personal preference and kind of where

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<v Speaker 3>you want to sit and what plan you're on.

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<v Speaker 2>But you definitely don't need to.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rich let's get right into a story that as

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, we just heard about the Ticketmaster transparency.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I think bug most of us.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, going to a hotel before here's the price,

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<v Speaker 1>until you walk in and there's your resort fee, even

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<v Speaker 1>in motels that have no pool, and then your excise

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<v Speaker 1>taxes and on and on, you're paying forty percent more.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Ticketmaster.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're buying a concert ticket, you're paying a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot more than the price that is being quoted.

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<v Speaker 1>That is ending, and why did it take so damn long.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the part that's ending is that you're finally going

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<v Speaker 3>to see how much you're paying upfront. You're still paying

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of junkie fees that's not changing, sadly. But

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<v Speaker 3>Ticketmaster as of now does show you the full price

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<v Speaker 3>of your ticket up front.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>All this stuff with the service fees and the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>they tack on, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been paying this stuff for a long time. It's wild,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. We shouldn't be doing it. But it's the

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<v Speaker 3>reality versus the face value, right. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>it was that surprise at the end. So you find

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<v Speaker 3>a good pair of tickets for the game or the

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<v Speaker 3>concert or whatever you want to go to, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you finally get to the checkout and the price jumps,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, depending on how many tickets you're buying by

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it could be one hundred dollars, two hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred, whatever it is. And I think that surprise

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<v Speaker 3>is what really turned people off. So now at least

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<v Speaker 3>you see the full price that you're gonna pay up

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<v Speaker 3>front before you get to that final screen. And then

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<v Speaker 3>on the final screen it's sort of reversed. You can

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<v Speaker 3>now click an arrow and get the breakdown of all

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<v Speaker 3>the different fees that are included in that price that

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<v Speaker 3>you've been seeing. And by the way, Ticketmaster is not

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<v Speaker 3>the only one we're seeing more of this transparency. Airbnb

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<v Speaker 3>is doing something similar. But like you said, hotels kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the last holdout here, still a lot of junkie fees,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at check.

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<v Speaker 2>In with that resort fee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't care what they charge if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're paying. I mean, they can throw on two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars room if you know that it's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars extra room. Then you choose simply to go to

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<v Speaker 1>someplace not as expensive, where you decide You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to that concert. It is not worth that

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<v Speaker 1>much money. But you know what did it take to

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<v Speaker 1>get there? Was there a lobby that stopped because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's been law after law introduced to stop that

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<v Speaker 1>for years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the most recent one was I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was last late last year. I think they finally

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<v Speaker 3>passed something that made this take effect, this junk fee law,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I think that these companies are finally I

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<v Speaker 3>think they had a deadline. I think the deadline's coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>but they just got ahead of it. And so that

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<v Speaker 3>is the main ifetus Like these companies do not do

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<v Speaker 3>this out of the kindness of their heart. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>they had their way, what a company would do is

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<v Speaker 3>charge you for your ticket and then two weeks after

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<v Speaker 3>the show say hey, by the way, here's your fee

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<v Speaker 3>that we're charging you for after the show because you

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed it, So here's another six dollars we just put

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<v Speaker 3>on your credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what they would do if they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, once you know, the government says, hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to show and show all in pricing because these

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<v Speaker 3>junk fees are getting. The thing is bill these companies

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<v Speaker 3>don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To be regulated in a way, right, They do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff to like sort of evade some of these regulations

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<v Speaker 3>that they know would come down the line if they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but the FTC did make a ban on junk

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<v Speaker 3>fees that is in effect now and that's really I

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<v Speaker 3>think what made this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that going to be across the board whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there were there are hidden fees, airline fees, et cetera

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<v Speaker 1>across just everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think I think airlines were. I got to

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<v Speaker 3>look up the rule because this was a while ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think the airlines were like specifically excluded from this.

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<v Speaker 3>So industries covered right now are concerts, sporting events, theater performances, hotels, motels,

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff, holiday inn But the I think the

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<v Speaker 3>airlines did sort of rally against this fee, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think they won because they don't have to do this

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<v Speaker 3>and airlines are like the worst. So I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever, if you ever do a search to like Vegas,

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<v Speaker 3>you can go on Spirit for like nine bucks, and

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<v Speaker 3>then by the time you get all the taxes and

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<v Speaker 3>you bring your actual bag on board, you're talking like

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<v Speaker 3>another like eighty dollars or something insane.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, okay, all right, Rich tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you on KTLA Saturday eleven to two pm

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<v Speaker 1>Here on KFI Instagram, at rich on tech website, richon

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<v Speaker 1>tech dot tv. You have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care Rich YouTube Bill