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Speaker 1: So okay, well we're going to skidatle Onto still in

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the Marvel train. We're gonna be talking some Doctor Strange

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three here. So have you have you read this this

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comic before?

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Speaker 2: Do you know anything about this?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: Well I've not read it, but I have read the

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Wikipedia synopsis of what it is that's about fred as

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I've done of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's perfect, that's perfect.

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Speaker 1: Damnation is the story that they are rumored to be adapting,

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and in the story, Doctor Strange is battling Mephisto, and

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Mephisto is basically trying to take over Las Vegas and

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turn into like a whole new.

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Speaker 2: Hell on Earth. Yeah, what do you think of this? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, have we ever seen Las Vegas

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in the MCU? Like, I can't think of a project

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in which we've been to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I want to say it's maybe in uh, maybe in

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one of Tony Stark's adventures. Maybe he's doing like an

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Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, maybe something like that, or maybe like in

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what if Season three, like Howard the Duck is like

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they're hanging out or something with Darcy or something, you know. Possibly,

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in the past, so that that could be fun as

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because I love Doctor Strange one and two. I think

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Speaker 4: I love the character of Doctor Strange, and I love

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a lot of the stuff they got introduced to in

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Speaker 3: When I was reading through it, like none.

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Speaker 3: What it was it? What if?

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Speaker 4: When we got all those like weird hybrid versions and

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the characters. Yeah, Like it wasn't quite as fun as

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like seeing those images. But obviously the ghostwriter, you know,

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being a big part of that, and a bunch of

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of Madness, So I imagine you don't throw away big

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that original one, and he's in there too. Of course,

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of Supreme at one point, and like, this is part

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of the story of this, is that strangers like taking

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of supernatural realm more so, and get like, obviously we've

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Speaker 4: Of scratching the surface to some extent we've always have been,

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Speaker 3: That we go down. I think it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Of more confirmed or if we hear more murmurs of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I it's funny because I thought

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was it was it Doctor Strange too? That people were

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Speaker 3: And I got to rewatch the show. My god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's there's so many little nods.

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he that Doctor Strange has the allies, I guess that

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Speaker 3: One of their potential appearances.

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of what If. I think it was that Western Train

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Midnight Suns. They're they're an alternate kind of team, and

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Speaker 3: So I guess he's getting introduced.

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Speaker 2: Detail.

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Speaker 1: Can you confirm is that in the trailer that dropped

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recently where you see him?

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Speaker 2: Because I did not catch that. What what are your sources?

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I need to know this the source?

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Speaker 3: And is there an actor?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Is it the same voice? Is it the voice of

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the guy who played him in the Marvel.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it is. I'd be surprised. Yeah, man thing

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have anything else on on that,

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except for the fact that Mephisto, just like the previous

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Robert dniy Junior's Doom, is supposed to play a big

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role in supernatural projects after the Great Reset?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think Mephisto seems like a big

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deal of a character. He seems to me like on

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the tier of a Kang. And obviously that's like a

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dirty word now in the MCU. But in terms of,

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like in being a villain that you're not just one

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and done. He's not just you know, he's not just

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in one movie the heroes defeat him, he's killed or

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otherwise dispatch, and we never see him again into like

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some weird multiverse thing. Like, I think he's a character

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that sticks around. Obviously, you still want a movie to

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bad guy. But I'm sure there's a million ways you

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could have, you know, the devil, the little slinky red foot.

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being quote unquote defeated in this one movie. Right, So

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next then ohs doctor Doom.

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Speaker 3: But I think it would be cool if he was

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Speaker 4: Just this underlying villain that appears in multiple projects, kind

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of weaves this other realm together, and so it's kind

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of just this b plot.

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Speaker 3: I guess in the MCU that sounds.

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, I'm putting it down, but I mean

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that in the best way possible, just like this other

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fun little thread that you can connect between these these projects,

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which apparently now starts with Ironheart potentially, which is a

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weird place for it to start. But I don't know,

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I think it fits, I think it works.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it.

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Speaker 4: Before, and so yeah, I hope, I hope this happens,

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and yeah, I think make them stick around for a

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bit too, because Mephisto's a villain, a Marvel character I

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know almost nothing about as well, So for me, this

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character in a big way for the first time, because, yeah,

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all the games and you know, movies and TV shows

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that I've watched over the years of Marvel, Mephisto's one

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I always hear about, but I've never actually seen a

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project with the character in there, so I don't I

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don't know what he's about.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know his vibe, so I'm excited to learn

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about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I now this could be something that I'm just

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not fully aware on. But when I'm with the ghost Writer,

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I mean, you have Mephistopheles, who I guess is the

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same as Mephisto.

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Speaker 2: Correct, that is that a Yeah, that's question for me.

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Speaker 1: NOO's pharasophals mephistoph I think that's Mephisto. I'm assuming because

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it's literally the same name, but because Mephistopheles is the

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guy that gave Johnny Blaze's powers, at least in the

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Nick Cage movie.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like Mephisto to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess anything that Whenever, the fact that

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we've seen Mephisto on here, it just makes me feel like, Okay,

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we're one step closer to ghost Rider and if Damnation

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there is smoke for Ghostwrider right now. I think

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I think we're getting them soon. Yeah, your times to

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come here today?

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Speaker 2: Times to come? Do you think it could be Nick

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Cage or you think it's gonna be someone new?

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Speaker 4: Maybe one time, like like how we got Snipes Blade

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where one last ride? But I think they're gonna cast

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someone else to be him going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 4: But if there's any movie to have a weird multiverse

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in which a different ghost writer comes in for one

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scene and dies or or doesn't, it would be a

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Doctor Strange movie.

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Speaker 3: That would be that. I mean that was many of

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the rumors for multiverse.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's true. Honestly, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I could see it where if it is, if it

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is all multiverse and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: You got Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Blaze from uh, like another universe, Nick Cage's version, and

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he comes and he's about to die, and he like

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sees it Johnny Blaze in his universe or in this

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other universe, this other multiverse, and he like gives the

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spirit aventions over to him and he becomes the main

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ghost writer, kind of like in Spider Verse when the

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Spider comes and jumps universes and like bites Miles morales.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: That's one. Yeah, lineage. Do you have anything else you

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want to add to uh, to these topics?

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think not think not.

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