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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, and for this week of August nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost of season one, episode seven,

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<v Speaker 1>The Moth, a particularly heavy handed metaphor in this time

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Do not have to interpret what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like white Rabbit. It's like, oh, he's chasing

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<v Speaker 1>He's chasing his dad in the jungle. His dad is

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<v Speaker 1>like the White Rabbit. Or House of the Rising Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>which was not about a house in New Orleans, but

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<v Speaker 1>abouts no, this one. There was in fact a moth

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<v Speaker 1>who played a pivotal, pivotal role at a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different junctures, right, both in saving people from certain death

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<v Speaker 1>and in providing a story for Locke to use to

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<v Speaker 1>get Charlie to stop using. So that that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very plain spoken title for a show that is oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>not so right. You got it? The moth, Hey, look

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<v Speaker 1>at them out? It means something.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, let me explain to you exactly what I mean. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to let you just try to figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out on your own. I will be I will

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<v Speaker 2>be sharing the exact ta.

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<v Speaker 1>See, if you let the moth out of the cocoon

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<v Speaker 1>too soon, bad things, it's too weak. Golly, who could

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<v Speaker 1>he be referring to. Hopefully, Charlie is shortly thereafter cocooned

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<v Speaker 1>by rocks. So just in case you didn't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what gets him out of the cocoon of rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a moss. Somehow the moss has flown underground like what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how the moth figured it out, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest, the Magical Island moths underground? Yes, well, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>it flew in the same way it flew out the well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the implication, right, But while everybody's digging for

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<v Speaker 2>them from one direction, they pop up behind them. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be pretty ticked to buy his hauling rocks

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<v Speaker 1>at the other side, and they're like, oh wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, hi, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's up to Walt to say, hey, there's the doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't say anything like here we are, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>We're safe. Yeah. Well, well it's got to have a line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in his contract. The little kid's agent came and

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<v Speaker 1>taped somebody on the shoulder saying he hasn't said anything

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Oh fine, he can say, hey, there's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, right, give him something to do real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. So this was quite the action packed episode

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<v Speaker 1>and illustrating again that Jack is dad or Jack is

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad Jack is the parental figure. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>when he is endangered, everybody drops everything. I mean, Boone

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate both say, forget this thing. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get us off the island. We got to go see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can pull some rocks away from Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's everybody knows who's most important here now yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>forget this stuff, never mind, but uh, Shannon and Sawyer

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<v Speaker 1>do as substitutes their duty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I really didn't think Shannon was gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Be I thought that was a very poor choice from boone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody else. Get the guy in the background who

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<v Speaker 1>nobody quite knows his name, get him to come to

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<v Speaker 1>it to be better. But uh, yeah, but she does it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sawyer does it and said it looks everything is

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<v Speaker 1>looking good. He's got a signal. And then from that

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<v Speaker 1>clung it must be a moth. The moths are really Agress.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, listen, dude, you don't want to do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stop you.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss entity. I don't think we saw hands. We just

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<v Speaker 1>saw a long item coming. And Bonking sayed in the noggin,

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<v Speaker 1>but just at the moment, just at the very moment

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<v Speaker 1>of triumph, he was gonna be able to triangulate the

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<v Speaker 1>signal or whatever the heck mumbo jumbo he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to do to find the source of the recording that's

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<v Speaker 1>been playing for sixteen years or whatever. Yet Nope, a mystery. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, however, enjoy very much. You remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>could take the battery out of a laptop, Catherine that

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<v Speaker 1>button and flip it flippa out. So HER's got him

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<v Speaker 1>some laptops and he can just take a battery right

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<v Speaker 1>off of one and hand it to Kate. I miss

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<v Speaker 1>those days. I loved those days. This is like I

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<v Speaker 1>missed the days when computers were big enough that you

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<v Speaker 1>could kick fam if they weren't working, and oftentimes it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>or you could give the side of the monitor a

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<v Speaker 1>hard smack and sometimes it would work. And later when

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<v Speaker 1>it was only laptops, you could still fire that battery

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<v Speaker 1>out with extreme prejudice and then get back in hard

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we get the computer to work. Now everything's

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<v Speaker 1>all screwed up and there's nothing you can do. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no real estate to hit, there's nothing to pop out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a self contained unit. And once it stops working,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go to the Apple store. You get

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<v Speaker 1>no satisfaction. You can yell at your children and hit

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<v Speaker 1>your desk, but it's not gonna do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That does not have the same appeal at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a real moment of nostalgia. We need a battery.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go see if Sawyer has hoarded any laptops. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, of course he has so wonderful. Nowadays, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be out of luck because the laptops would all

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<v Speaker 1>be dead and there would be no way to remove

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<v Speaker 1>anything from any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. They would all be dead because everybody was

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<v Speaker 2>using them on the plane to watch movies, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Been using them since to see Is there anything on

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<v Speaker 1>the news yet about us? Go on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that when we play that, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>drive chaft video. Play my video. Yeah, we learned all

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<v Speaker 1>about Charlie and his brother Liam and the unfortunate fate

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<v Speaker 1>of their band, and add to the uh to the

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<v Speaker 1>gallery of bad dads. A bad bro. I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>he was a father figure, so he can count in

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<v Speaker 1>our dad bad dad's thing. But dude, yeah, not taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of your little brother at all just awful, just

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<v Speaker 1>so sad, and so exactly the arc of bad dads

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<v Speaker 1>we've had. So golly, that's just right.

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<v Speaker 2>Then at the end he makes a feeble attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, let me help you, and Charlie it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>no got a plane to catch, like, oh, don't get

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<v Speaker 2>on that plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it does get them off here on, so there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Also, so at the end, you know. He

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<v Speaker 2>he asks Locke one last time for the drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And said, you can ask me three times and on

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<v Speaker 1>the third time, if you ask the third time, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it to you, which, right, with a face full

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<v Speaker 1>of disappointment, he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. But then if Charlie throws them in a fire. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is drugs that people smoke, and he and he

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<v Speaker 2>throws them in a fire, Like how what are they not?

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<v Speaker 2>Now all getting getting a little.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what lasting around it, holds it down or something?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Do you just does it have to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a different form to smoke it? This is

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<v Speaker 1>Terry and Catherine being ignorant about that. Can you just

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<v Speaker 1>because this he has been taking this.

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<v Speaker 2>Orally he's been like snorting in her Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin I imagine you could dissolve it in water and

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it up, but could you smoke it in that?

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose you can do anything with it you wish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get desperate. Yeah, I don't know. If you burn it

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<v Speaker 1>in a fire, does it get everybody high? But the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner is going to be extra tasty, the boar.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody doesn't feel real good about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to hits our heroin infused. That's what's the manage.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the chef special today.

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<v Speaker 1>Blackened Boar with with uh you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know wild we should stay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know what, I'm willing to give it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck? They could use a fun night pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's got an injury, an inside piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has a has some kind of physical injury that

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<v Speaker 2>they're dealing with. So maybe it'll help with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack's dislocated shoulder and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know that's true that you all used to

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<v Speaker 1>mellow out a little bit as long as of course,

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<v Speaker 1>then they're going to be pretty grouchy afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>But right, but I don't think it's enough to get

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<v Speaker 2>them hooked. But again, what do I know? It's very.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the moths, the moths will enjoy the fumes.

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<v Speaker 2>But so Sun is getting a little more you know, independent,

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<v Speaker 2>or she is not taking it deciding, Like listen, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hot. I'm not wearing your stupid cardigan anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk around in this Lacey cavesl right because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Yeah, because now I know that there's people here

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<v Speaker 2>who will help me out. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, there were no additional additional tank tops in the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in everybody's luggage.

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<v Speaker 2>In the clothes sorting, the great clothes sort.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet Kate's got ten or twelve of them stashed aside.

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<v Speaker 1>She could probably probably share one of them with something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she seems to have at least a few tank.

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<v Speaker 1>Tops, a little better than a lacy underwear looking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, at this point, who cares exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately, nobody's going to make a move on Son because

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<v Speaker 1>Jen will kill them.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they've all they've all seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Sawyer, Sawyers. Maybe he has enough of

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<v Speaker 1>a death wish, but I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually trying to think, how long it takes before we

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<v Speaker 1>stop hating that guy? Not yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that he's sensitive up there somewhere. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets gage when people are rude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's right, he's shutting them out so they can't

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<v Speaker 2>hurt him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, you know what I bet about him. I

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<v Speaker 1>just have this feeling. I bet his dad wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice, just a feeling, you say.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean to him in some way, just as he could

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<v Speaker 1>have been his mom. Yeah, you know, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just have this feeling. Well, since next week's episode

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<v Speaker 1>is a Sawyer episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps perhaps find something out trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get I think one of the random extras

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<v Speaker 1>got a a name, except it's Scott or else it's Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was sure whether it was Scott or Steve. So

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<v Speaker 1>that guy got a little extra money in his paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a moment of like, hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Move this ro or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, enjoy it went out of nowhere. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>Right, alrighty, you are necessary for the plot just for

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, and then you need people to move rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you can go back to obscurity. Trust me, it

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<v Speaker 2>will not be long.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack. The caves are safe. Let's all go live in

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<v Speaker 1>the caves and the caves name and fall down. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them are fine. Yeah, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael says he's a construction worker, so I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a civil engineer. As far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 2>trust him.

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<v Speaker 1>With my life.

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<v Speaker 2>The heck, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, I guess it's still early. There's still

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<v Speaker 1>only been there about a week or so, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's some At some point you got to start thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>could I arrange for a quick and painless death? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that something that I could arrange for languishing for months

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<v Speaker 1>with a bullet in my gut. But if somebody, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could just fall off a cliff maybe, or are

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<v Speaker 1>there poisonous snakes around here, you know, or if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>But say it is, of course still quite We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>alive in kick such time as he wakes up. Yes, spoiler,

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<v Speaker 1>he makes it if you're thinking, geez, I like that

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<v Speaker 1>INVI and Andrews. What a shame that he was only

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<v Speaker 1>on the show for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we got.

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<v Speaker 1>Him for good, or for least as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>island finds him useful. He's easy on the eyes. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yes, and we haven't had a flashback for

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<v Speaker 2>him yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not, Yes, we need that. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>next week is Sawyer? The week after that is sayed okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh As discussed the episode for next week with Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Season one episode eight is called confidence Man. So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't you know he's that it was referring to

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<v Speaker 1>a con man? Or are they saying confidence man? Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>be confident? Stop in such a little weasel yet up

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this. There is no comment in the title,

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<v Speaker 1>so I suppose it's the former, but little of the

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<v Speaker 1>latter could do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But a little bit of that whole, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>him putting up front is a yes, show of lack

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<v Speaker 2>of confidence somebody that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is correct, that is he could use. He's just been

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<v Speaker 1>so one note so far. So I'm happy that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be getting some backstory on him that will

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<v Speaker 1>maybe write and do these have we just discussed on

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<v Speaker 1>this show? Has it been mentioned these folks ever shower?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>They water around and I bet one thing you could

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<v Speaker 1>find in almost every suitcase on an airplane where people

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<v Speaker 1>are going a long distance is a bar of soap

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<v Speaker 1>or a bottle of body wash. Right, if he's hoarning

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<v Speaker 1>them all, he does not appear to be using them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he could, he could get some favors from

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<v Speaker 1>the ladies by passing out the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fruit taste, but some shampoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But it's just there's not been any I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's waterfalls, there's ponds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there was the scene of Sun that's

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<v Speaker 2>right taking a sort of sponge bath when Michael happened

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<v Speaker 2>along and wasn't Son the one who taught Walt had

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<v Speaker 2>a precious teeth or was that block I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody did somebody taught?

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<v Speaker 1>Are looking pretty sweaty? You know, maybe we need to

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<v Speaker 1>organize a uh men's and ladies hygiene with some palm leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>make a little shower and yeah, a little jug of water.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, there's no excuse for poor

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<v Speaker 1>even being lost on.

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<v Speaker 2>An island.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're lost. So as a reminder, next week, we

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking about lost on tuesdays from for now

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<v Speaker 1>and for the next little bit while we're also watching

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<v Speaker 1>only Murders in the Build, So don't get lost. Come

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