Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, and for this week of August nineteenth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost of season one, episode seven,
Speaker 1: The Moth, a particularly heavy handed metaphor in this time
Speaker 1: this one. Do not have to interpret what that means.
Speaker 1: It's not like white Rabbit. It's like, oh, he's chasing
Speaker 1: He's chasing his dad in the jungle. His dad is
Speaker 1: like the White Rabbit. Or House of the Rising Sun,
Speaker 1: which was not about a house in New Orleans, but
Speaker 1: abouts no, this one. There was in fact a moth
Speaker 1: who played a pivotal, pivotal role at a couple of
Speaker 1: different junctures, right, both in saving people from certain death
Speaker 1: and in providing a story for Locke to use to
Speaker 1: get Charlie to stop using. So that that's that's a
Speaker 1: very plain spoken title for a show that is oftentimes
Speaker 1: not so right. You got it? The moth, Hey, look
Speaker 1: at them out? It means something.
Speaker 2: Also, let me explain to you exactly what I mean. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you just try to figure
Speaker 2: it out on your own. I will be I will
Speaker 2: be sharing the exact ta.
Speaker 1: See, if you let the moth out of the cocoon
Speaker 1: too soon, bad things, it's too weak. Golly, who could
Speaker 1: he be referring to. Hopefully, Charlie is shortly thereafter cocooned
Speaker 1: by rocks. So just in case you didn't get it,
Speaker 1: and hey.
Speaker 2: Guess what gets him out of the cocoon of rocks.
Speaker 2: It's a moss. Somehow the moss has flown underground like what.
Speaker 2: I don't know how the moth figured it out, to.
Speaker 1: Be honest, the Magical Island moths underground? Yes, well, perhaps
Speaker 1: it flew in the same way it flew out the well.
Speaker 2: That was the implication, right, But while everybody's digging for
Speaker 2: them from one direction, they pop up behind them. Hey guys,
Speaker 2: what's up.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty ticked to buy his hauling rocks
Speaker 1: at the other side, and they're like, oh wait.
Speaker 2: Yo, hi, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Oh man?
Speaker 2: And it's up to Walt to say, hey, there's the doctor.
Speaker 2: Like they didn't say anything like here we are, Hey.
Speaker 1: We're safe. Yeah. Well, well it's got to have a line.
Speaker 1: It's in his contract. The little kid's agent came and
Speaker 1: taped somebody on the shoulder saying he hasn't said anything
Speaker 1: this episode. Oh fine, he can say, hey, there's the.
Speaker 2: Doctor, right, give him something to do real quick.
Speaker 1: Oh man. So this was quite the action packed episode
Speaker 1: and illustrating again that Jack is dad or Jack is
Speaker 1: mom and dad Jack is the parental figure. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: when he is endangered, everybody drops everything. I mean, Boone
Speaker 1: and Kate both say, forget this thing. That's going to
Speaker 1: get us off the island. We got to go see
Speaker 1: if we can pull some rocks away from Jack.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's everybody knows who's most important here now yes, I
Speaker 1: forget this stuff, never mind, but uh, Shannon and Sawyer
Speaker 1: do as substitutes their duty.
Speaker 2: Yes, I really didn't think Shannon was gonna.
Speaker 1: Be I thought that was a very poor choice from boone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nobody else. Get the guy in the background who
Speaker 1: nobody quite knows his name, get him to come to
Speaker 1: it to be better. But uh, yeah, but she does it,
Speaker 1: and Sawyer does it and said it looks everything is
Speaker 1: looking good. He's got a signal. And then from that
Speaker 1: clung it must be a moth. The moths are really Agress.
Speaker 2: Was like, listen, dude, you don't want to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to stop you.
Speaker 1: Miss entity. I don't think we saw hands. We just
Speaker 1: saw a long item coming. And Bonking sayed in the noggin,
Speaker 1: but just at the moment, just at the very moment
Speaker 1: of triumph, he was gonna be able to triangulate the
Speaker 1: signal or whatever the heck mumbo jumbo he was going
Speaker 1: to do to find the source of the recording that's
Speaker 1: been playing for sixteen years or whatever. Yet Nope, a mystery. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did, however, enjoy very much. You remember when you
Speaker 1: could take the battery out of a laptop, Catherine that
Speaker 1: button and flip it flippa out. So HER's got him
Speaker 1: some laptops and he can just take a battery right
Speaker 1: off of one and hand it to Kate. I miss
Speaker 1: those days. I loved those days. This is like I
Speaker 1: missed the days when computers were big enough that you
Speaker 1: could kick fam if they weren't working, and oftentimes it worked,
Speaker 1: or you could give the side of the monitor a
Speaker 1: hard smack and sometimes it would work. And later when
Speaker 1: it was only laptops, you could still fire that battery
Speaker 1: out with extreme prejudice and then get back in hard
Speaker 1: and sometimes we get the computer to work. Now everything's
Speaker 1: all screwed up and there's nothing you can do. There's
Speaker 1: no real estate to hit, there's nothing to pop out.
Speaker 1: It's just a self contained unit. And once it stops working,
Speaker 1: you got to go to the Apple store. You get
Speaker 1: no satisfaction. You can yell at your children and hit
Speaker 1: your desk, but it's not gonna do anything.
Speaker 2: That does not have the same appeal at all.
Speaker 1: That was a real moment of nostalgia. We need a battery.
Speaker 1: Let's go see if Sawyer has hoarded any laptops. Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember, of course he has so wonderful. Nowadays, they
Speaker 1: would be out of luck because the laptops would all
Speaker 1: be dead and there would be no way to remove
Speaker 1: anything from any of them.
Speaker 2: That's right. They would all be dead because everybody was
Speaker 2: using them on the plane to watch movies, and it's.
Speaker 1: Been using them since to see Is there anything on
Speaker 1: the news yet about us? Go on YouTube?
Speaker 2: Facebook?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that when we play that, there's a
Speaker 1: drive chaft video. Play my video. Yeah, we learned all
Speaker 1: about Charlie and his brother Liam and the unfortunate fate
Speaker 1: of their band, and add to the uh to the
Speaker 1: gallery of bad dads. A bad bro. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: he was a father figure, so he can count in
Speaker 1: our dad bad dad's thing. But dude, yeah, not taking
Speaker 1: care of your little brother at all just awful, just
Speaker 1: so sad, and so exactly the arc of bad dads
Speaker 1: we've had. So golly, that's just right.
Speaker 2: Then at the end he makes a feeble attempt to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, let me help you, and Charlie it's like,
Speaker 2: no got a plane to catch, like, oh, don't get
Speaker 2: on that plane.
Speaker 1: Well it does get them off here on, so there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: That's true. Also, so at the end, you know. He
Speaker 2: he asks Locke one last time for the drugs.
Speaker 1: And said, you can ask me three times and on
Speaker 1: the third time, if you ask the third time, I'll
Speaker 1: give it to you, which, right, with a face full
Speaker 1: of disappointment, he does.
Speaker 2: He does. But then if Charlie throws them in a fire. Now,
Speaker 2: this is drugs that people smoke, and he and he
Speaker 2: throws them in a fire, Like how what are they not?
Speaker 2: Now all getting getting a little.
Speaker 1: You know what lasting around it, holds it down or something?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you just does it have to
Speaker 1: be in a different form to smoke it? This is
Speaker 1: Terry and Catherine being ignorant about that. Can you just
Speaker 1: because this he has been taking this.
Speaker 2: Orally he's been like snorting in her Yeah.
Speaker 1: Justin I imagine you could dissolve it in water and
Speaker 1: shoot it up, but could you smoke it in that?
Speaker 1: I suppose you can do anything with it you wish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get desperate. Yeah, I don't know. If you burn it
Speaker 1: in a fire, does it get everybody high? But the uh,
Speaker 1: the dinner is going to be extra tasty, the boar.
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't feel real good about that.
Speaker 2: You want to hits our heroin infused. That's what's the manage.
Speaker 2: You know, the chef special today.
Speaker 1: Blackened Boar with with uh you.
Speaker 2: Know wild we should stay?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, I'm willing to give it to them.
Speaker 1: What the heck? They could use a fun night pretty hard.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got an injury, an inside piece.
Speaker 2: Everyone has a has some kind of physical injury that
Speaker 2: they're dealing with. So maybe it'll help with you know,
Speaker 2: Jack's dislocated shoulder and everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's true that you all used to
Speaker 1: mellow out a little bit as long as of course,
Speaker 1: then they're going to be pretty grouchy afterwards.
Speaker 2: But right, but I don't think it's enough to get
Speaker 2: them hooked. But again, what do I know? It's very.
Speaker 1: Yes, the moths, the moths will enjoy the fumes.
Speaker 2: But so Sun is getting a little more you know, independent,
Speaker 2: or she is not taking it deciding, Like listen, dude,
Speaker 2: it's hot. I'm not wearing your stupid cardigan anymore.
Speaker 1: Walk around in this Lacey cavesl right because I feel
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, because now I know that there's people here
Speaker 2: who will help me out. I guess.
Speaker 1: Really, there were no additional additional tank tops in the uh,
Speaker 1: in everybody's luggage.
Speaker 2: In the clothes sorting, the great clothes sort.
Speaker 1: I bet Kate's got ten or twelve of them stashed aside.
Speaker 1: She could probably probably share one of them with something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she seems to have at least a few tank.
Speaker 1: Tops, a little better than a lacy underwear looking thing.
Speaker 1: But really, at this point, who cares exactly?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Fortunately, nobody's going to make a move on Son because
Speaker 1: Jen will kill them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they've all they've all seen that.
Speaker 1: I don't know Sawyer, Sawyers. Maybe he has enough of
Speaker 1: a death wish, but I don't think.
Speaker 2: Oh Sawyer.
Speaker 1: Eventually trying to think, how long it takes before we
Speaker 1: stop hating that guy? Not yet?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: But you know that he's sensitive up there somewhere. He
Speaker 1: gets gage when people are rude.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's right, he's shutting them out so they can't
Speaker 2: hurt him.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know what I bet about him. I
Speaker 1: just have this feeling. I bet his dad wasn't.
Speaker 2: Very nice, just a feeling, you say.
Speaker 1: Mean to him in some way, just as he could
Speaker 1: have been his mom. Yeah, you know, but I just
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling. Well, since next week's episode
Speaker 1: is a Sawyer episode.
Speaker 2: Perhaps perhaps find something out trust.
Speaker 1: Before we get I think one of the random extras
Speaker 1: got a a name, except it's Scott or else it's Steve.
Speaker 1: Nobody was sure whether it was Scott or Steve. So
Speaker 1: that guy got a little extra money in his paycheck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a moment of like, hey, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Move this ro or whatever?
Speaker 1: I did, enjoy it went out of nowhere. There's just
Speaker 1: some person we've never seen before.
Speaker 2: Right, alrighty, you are necessary for the plot just for
Speaker 2: a minute, and then you need people to move rocks.
Speaker 2: Then you can go back to obscurity. Trust me, it
Speaker 2: will not be long.
Speaker 1: Jack. The caves are safe. Let's all go live in
Speaker 1: the caves and the caves name and fall down. The
Speaker 1: rest of them are fine. Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Michael says he's a construction worker, so I mean he's
Speaker 2: not like a civil engineer. As far as I can tell,
Speaker 2: trust him.
Speaker 1: With my life.
Speaker 2: The heck, I know.
Speaker 1: At some point, I guess it's still early. There's still
Speaker 1: only been there about a week or so, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's some At some point you got to start thinking,
Speaker 1: could I arrange for a quick and painless death? Is
Speaker 1: that something that I could arrange for languishing for months
Speaker 1: with a bullet in my gut. But if somebody, if
Speaker 1: I could just fall off a cliff maybe, or are
Speaker 1: there poisonous snakes around here, you know, or if somebody
Speaker 1: just wants to bop me on the head in the jungle.
Speaker 1: But say it is, of course still quite We'll be
Speaker 1: alive in kick such time as he wakes up. Yes, spoiler,
Speaker 1: he makes it if you're thinking, geez, I like that
Speaker 1: INVI and Andrews. What a shame that he was only
Speaker 1: on the show for a few weeks.
Speaker 2: No, we got.
Speaker 1: Him for good, or for least as long as the
Speaker 1: island finds him useful. He's easy on the eyes. Keep
Speaker 1: him around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, and we haven't had a flashback for
Speaker 2: him yet.
Speaker 1: We have not, Yes, we need that. I believe it's
Speaker 1: next week is Sawyer? The week after that is sayed okay,
Speaker 1: and uh As discussed the episode for next week with Sawyer.
Speaker 1: Uh Season one episode eight is called confidence Man. So
Speaker 1: we don't you know he's that it was referring to
Speaker 1: a con man? Or are they saying confidence man? Come on,
Speaker 1: be confident? Stop in such a little weasel yet up
Speaker 1: you can do this. There is no comment in the title,
Speaker 1: so I suppose it's the former, but little of the
Speaker 1: latter could do as well.
Speaker 2: But a little bit of that whole, like you know,
Speaker 2: him putting up front is a yes, show of lack
Speaker 2: of confidence somebody that.
Speaker 1: Is correct, that is he could use. He's just been
Speaker 1: so one note so far. So I'm happy that we're
Speaker 1: going to be getting some backstory on him that will
Speaker 1: maybe write and do these have we just discussed on
Speaker 1: this show? Has it been mentioned these folks ever shower?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They water around and I bet one thing you could
Speaker 1: find in almost every suitcase on an airplane where people
Speaker 1: are going a long distance is a bar of soap
Speaker 1: or a bottle of body wash. Right, if he's hoarning
Speaker 1: them all, he does not appear to be using them.
Speaker 1: I mean he could, he could get some favors from
Speaker 1: the ladies by passing out the.
Speaker 2: Fruit taste, but some shampoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's just there's not been any I mean,
Speaker 1: there's waterfalls, there's ponds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was the scene of Sun that's
Speaker 2: right taking a sort of sponge bath when Michael happened
Speaker 2: along and wasn't Son the one who taught Walt had
Speaker 2: a precious teeth or was that block I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Somebody did somebody taught?
Speaker 1: Are looking pretty sweaty? You know, maybe we need to
Speaker 1: organize a uh men's and ladies hygiene with some palm leaves,
Speaker 1: make a little shower and yeah, a little jug of water.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, there's no excuse for poor
Speaker 1: even being lost on.
Speaker 2: An island.
Speaker 1: When you're lost. So as a reminder, next week, we
Speaker 1: will be talking about lost on tuesdays from for now
Speaker 1: and for the next little bit while we're also watching
Speaker 1: only Murders in the Build, So don't get lost. Come
Speaker 1: listen on Tuesday and we will see you back here
Speaker 1: tomorrow for our weekly roundup. Thank you for listening. You
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