WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.439 Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:07.719 It is thought for boking Thursday. I'm sorry, it is 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:11.640 Wealthy Wednesdays with Doctor P. L. De Silva, where we 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:16.199 will be in the world House and worldwide with pl 5 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.800 da Silva. Doctor de Silva has over twenty years experience 6 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:23.160 backroom diplomacy, mediation and negotiation. He has taught politics international 7 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.559 relations in several graduate undergraduate programs at universities in New York, 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:31.239 New Jersey, Long Island and Queen's University in Belfast in 9 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:35.840 Northern Ireland. Doctor de Silva's publications include post modern Insurgencies, 10 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.880 political Violence, Identity Formation and Peacemaking and Comparative Perspective. He 11 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.439 is the co founder, with Professor W. D. Lakshman, former 12 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:47.640 Vice Chancellor of the University of Colombo, of the International 13 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:52.679 War Related Trauma and Humanitarian Intervention Trust, setting up psychosocial 14 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:56.759 training programs for practitioners serving combatants non combatants during the 15 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.719 Sri Lanka Civil War. Doctor de Silva, Welcome forward to 16 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.719 the Jeff Jackson Junior Show. Very good to be on 17 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.640 the show, Jesse. I'm particularly honored that you are here 18 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.120 today and so grateful, Doctor de Silva. So much is 19 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.359 going on in the world, and I know that I'm 20 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.079 going to be bringing our guest up in just a moment, 21 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:16.040 but I want to get your initial take on what's 22 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:20.239 taking place. The Danish Prime Minister as well as the 23 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.239 foreign Minister of Greenland met with the President of the 24 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.599 United States today along with Marco Rubio around at least 25 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.359 from my perspective, the outlandish idea that the President of 26 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:34.120 the United States wants to add the green territory to 27 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:35.480 the United States of America. 28 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:42.599 Your initial thoughts, Yes, it's extremely worrying and we could 29 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.920 actually see the dismantling of NATO if actually US troops 30 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.359 moved to take, you. 31 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:56.599 Know, military control of Greenland. There are US troops, you know, 32 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.760 a small number of troops in the US space program 33 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:06.879 in NUK, north of NUK, which is the capital of Iceland. 34 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:15.520 And I'm wondering because my question is who would benefit 35 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.719 if NATO collapses. That's the question I want to leave 36 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:25.039 our our our audience with who would who would benefit? 37 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.360 Who'd be happy to see NATO disappear? Because if the 38 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:36.719 US and European allies start squabbling over Greenland, that will 39 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.319 be the net outcome. 40 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.240 On in Vladimir Putin would be the beneficiary of the 41 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.879 collapse of the North American Treaty Organization. That's my opinion, 42 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.479 but I'm sure we'll delve into it further. Doctor de 43 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.560 Silva has brought with him a very special guest, Doctor 44 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.199 Hania the Cock, is the head of the Policy and 45 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:58.479 Laison Unit with the United Nations Population Fund Humanitarian Office. 46 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.080 Doctor de Cock provides you and f PA Country and 47 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:04.840 Regional office with advice on policy coordination and technical support 48 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:10.360 related to humanitarian preparedness, emergency response, disaster risk reduction, recovery 49 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.240 and resilience. Her goal and role is to advance gender equality, 50 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:18.319 to promote sexual and reproductive health and rights, including minstrel health, 51 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:23.560 mental health and psychosocial support, and to prevent and respond 52 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.240 to gender based violence issues in humanitarian settings and across 53 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:31.360 humanitarian development and peace nexus. Before joining the UN in 54 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.360 June of two thousand and four, Doctor de Cock was 55 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.479 the Field Director or the Director of Relief and Development 56 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.840 Programs with the International Medical Corps. She managed and developed 57 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.360 the technical aspect of service delivery programming to improve quality 58 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:47.479 of care within im global programs in relief and development settings. 59 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.960 Throughout Africa, Central Asia, Middle East, Southeast Asia. She's also 60 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.879 worked as Technical Advisor for the Reproductive Health and Conflict 61 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.240 in the Conflict Consortium, providing technical advice and training to 62 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:02.120 projects implemented in nine countries across conflict and post conflict 63 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.000 situations around the globe. Doctor the Clock looking forward to 64 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.919 the Jesse Jackson Junior Show and the great Doctor Piel 65 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.639 de Silvakay. 66 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.280 Thank you, Thank you Jesse, and thank you pl. 67 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:17.399 I really enjoy having both of you and listening to 68 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.680 both of you because you also bring a lot of 69 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:20.759 good perspectives. 70 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:22.959 Thank you so much for posting. 71 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:24.600 Doctor Cok. I know we're going to get into some 72 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.839 more critical issues when we come forward after our break, 73 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:29.560 but we have about a minute and thirty seconds. I'd 74 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.000 like to post the same question to you. Your thoughts 75 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:36.120 about the United States and its idea that somehow Greenland 76 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.680 or Greenland is a territory that it must have as 77 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.040 part of our regional security. 78 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.480 I think it's very difficult question at the moment because 79 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.319 there is some sort of how to say, our word 80 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.879 order at the moment, and this word order is collapsing. 81 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.759 This is what it is, you know, sovereignty of States. 82 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:01.079 You know, all of this, the NATO issues game. Most 83 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.279 probably also Vladimir Putin will be very happy to see 84 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.680 NEO collapse. So I think it's very difficult to really 85 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:15.560 understand what is the the end game of this, you know, 86 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.519 what is behind all of this. In the end of 87 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.959 the day, we want to see prosperity for all and 88 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.920 it is definitely you know, I mean, the trade issues 89 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:29.399 are going to be very, very difficult with this type 90 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:34.480 of situation where you have one country overseeing the global. 91 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:38.879 Order over I am. I'm profoundly struck by it. And 92 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.199 I see one long story that President Barack Obama was 93 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.639 obviously very concerned about and everyone who's fought against Donald Trump, 94 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.720 including the various investigations that he's been in, that something 95 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:50.800 was a foot on a scale that we couldn't imagine 96 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:52.560 and we may be looking at it come to fruition 97 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.560 as we speak today. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to 98 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:57.959 Jesse Jackson Junior Show. We have two very special guests today, 99 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.879 doctor pi Aldo Silva and doctor and to Kok. Will 100 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:03.800 be more from the Jesse Jackson Genie Show when we 101 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.759 come forward on KBLA Top fifty. Jackson to welcome you 102 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.000 word to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show worldwide with appel 103 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:14.480 to so I'm veras guest doctor Henniett Takak, and I 104 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.399 wanted to ask let me first at the stage. The 105 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:22.120 United Nations Relief and Workers Agency for Palestinian Refugees in 106 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.879 the Near East, or better known by its acronym you RWA, 107 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.519 is a UN agency established in nineteen forty nine to 108 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:34.079 provide humanitarian aid and development assistance to Palestinian refugees in 109 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:37.399 the Middle East, supporting millions with education, health care, and 110 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.839 social services in the Gaza, the West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon 111 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:47.040 and Syria, funded primarily by voluntary contributions from UN member states. 112 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.959 What they do They provide primary and vocational education. They 113 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.959 deliver primary health care services, offer a social safety net, 114 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:59.959 budd assistant and emergency support. They provide infrastructure by improving 115 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.199 camps and essential infrastructure, and micro finance by providing small 116 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:08.160 loans to refugees. And I want to talk with doctor 117 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:14.439 the COC about the practical issues facing you and RW 118 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.759 and other UN agencies when delivering humanitarian aid and assistance 119 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:20.480 in the Gaza. Doctor de Cock, this is our longest 120 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.000 segment about twenty minutes. Please take your time and share 121 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:24.720 with us your thoughts. 122 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:26.079 Thank you. 123 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:26.519 Jesse. 124 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:31.279 I think is facing a lot of challenges, especially in 125 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.199 Gaza and the West Bank and East Jerusalem. 126 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:35.560 So as you know. 127 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:44.600 Or you and Refugee Work Agency for Palestinians has been 128 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:49.040 established since nineteen forty nine and it actually services around 129 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:55.240 five point nine million refugee Palestinian refugees across the globe. 130 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.680 So it's not only that they are in West Bank, 131 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:04.959 Gaza and Jerusalem. They also support programs in Jordan and 132 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.560 in Lebanon and in Syria, and so there's so many 133 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.920 refugee camps still around the world in this until this 134 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:18.959 moment that are you know, like they were born from 135 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:23.199 refugees and they are the off offsprings of refugees. So 136 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.680 it's never going to go away, you know. It's there 137 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.000 is a right issue. There is a right for these 138 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:37.480 people to have support based on the UN resolution General 139 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.799 Assembly resolution in nineteen forty nine. And it is not 140 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.480 only that they do the medical services or the health services, 141 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:49.639 they also do food distribution and since you know, like 142 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:54.720 since January, they haven't been able to do any food 143 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.919 distribution in Gaza, for example, this just gives you an 144 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:05.720 example of the magnitude of problems that Palestinian refugees in 145 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.960 Gaza are facing. And Gaza is seventy five percent of 146 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.159 the population of Gaza is refugees. 147 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:13.639 Also, so it's not. 148 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:18.000 Only that there are population who is indigenous to Gaza, 149 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.039 but there are refugees from nineteen forty eight who are 150 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.840 still in Gaza and Gaza Strip who are living there. 151 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.720 And they are now the two million that have been 152 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:34.440 you know, bombarded NonStop for the last two years, eight 153 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:41.360 hundred and something days of bombardment and some yellow lines 154 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.519 and green lines here and green lines there. 155 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.240 They are not getting humanitarian assistance as they should be. 156 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.240 And then let me ask you a quick question if I mind. 157 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.600 And then just for clarity, you're saying that there are 158 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:57.480 refugees within the Gaza Strip who are Gazans, but you're 159 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:01.159 also suggesting that the global diaspora has also absorbed in 160 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:09.080 camps a Palestinian or specifically Guzens, who may outnumber the 161 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.519 actual number of Gusens who are in the Gaza Strip, 162 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.639 who are actually in refugee camps around the world. 163 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:17.639 Yes, they do, you know. For example, let us let's 164 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.720 give me. Let me give you an example. There were 165 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:24.240 a lot of guzzen in Libya before the Libya crisis, 166 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.519 and they were stuck that nobody once wanted them, you know, 167 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.000 they were not need Egypt will not allow them in 168 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.000 and they will not be able to go to Gaza 169 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.879 because Israel will not allow them in. So they were 170 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.720 stuck in refugee camps for a long period of time. 171 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:45.200 Doctor to Silva. 172 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:52.879 Yes, So, doctor Dukak is born and bred in Jerusalem. 173 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:58.279 She's from Jerusalem, She's a Palestinian. She studied her medicine 174 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.200 in doughnut Skin Eastern Ukraine. 175 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:02.519 Speaks fluent Russian. 176 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:11.159 She knows the humanitarian situation extremely well. And I'm very 177 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:14.639 happy that she's here as somebody who has, you know, 178 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:18.720 on the ground experience to talk about the situation of 179 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:23.000 the Palestinians. We need Palestinians to talk about Palestinian issues, 180 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.559 and I'm very happy to have doctor Dakak here with 181 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:28.159 us today. 182 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.279 I think Doctor I want to add that for many 183 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.399 of us, we all witnessed obviously the events that occurred 184 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:40.120 on October seventh and what they represented in terms of 185 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:45.200 the war on Hamas that ensued, but the world I 186 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.559 don't believe, at least initially it may have, has not 187 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.639 turned its back on the idea of the humanitarians suffering 188 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.919 that is taking place in the Gaza for innocent civilian 189 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.080 women and children. Can you share with us the nature 190 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.240 of the of the crime just as it exists today 191 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:03.480 in the concerns that you have. 192 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:08.080 You know, let me just say, it's winter now in 193 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.559 that region, okay, and you are talking about seventy five 194 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:20.600 percent of buildings and public buildings and houses have been destroyed, 195 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.399 totally destroyed, totally, you know, whipped off. So people are 196 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:30.360 living outside like really under the elements of nature. So 197 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:36.759 imagine when it is raining and you have children, newborns, 198 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.600 women who are pregnant, who could be you know what 199 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:44.120 I mean, in this type of situation where water is 200 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.679 flooding them, you know, because they are intents and water 201 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:53.759 is flooding the tents because they are almost on the 202 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.480 brink of the water. We are talking about two million 203 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:00.960 people living in a very very small piece of land 204 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.759 and they are on top of each other, and it's 205 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.919 there is no heat, there is no electricity, there is 206 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.639 no running water. You know, everything has to be bring 207 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:18.399 brought in, tracked in no medication. Hospitals are barely you know, functioning, 208 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:23.600 none of them, if like even on hospitals and clinics 209 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.600 only for are functioning at the moment out of like 210 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:32.279 maybe there were twenty seven before this crisis, or thirty 211 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.000 seven before this crisis. So you are you are talking 212 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:43.720 about people in extreme you're like food like insecurity, because 213 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.159 we all have seen it's you know, the malnutrition is skyrocketing. 214 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:53.480 We are seeing women dying in childbirths when we shouldn't 215 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.919 see any woman dying in childbirths, especially that we are 216 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.799 talking about small piece of land. But all these you know, 217 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:10.000 security lines and incursions and attacks on healthcare workers and 218 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.440 on humanitarian workers. 219 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.120 Don't forget that more than. 220 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.960 Three hundred and eighty nine people were killed who are 221 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:23.879 uneras staff in Gaza and humanitarian worker that were targeted 222 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.240 and killed. So you are talking about you're like a 223 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:30.919 need for more services, but the people who provide the 224 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.039 services are limited. Plus nothing is coming in in the 225 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.840 amount that it should come in. You know, like Gaza 226 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:43.440 would need five hundred trucks every day and they are 227 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:47.039 not getting even one hundred truck every day, and it 228 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.519 has to go through security checks and everything has to 229 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.879 go out and then come in because everything has to 230 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:58.000 be checked. You cannot even get an oxygen cylender for 231 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.000 a hospital to go to go. 232 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.200 And yeah, let me share with our listeners for moments 233 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.159 I can help them understand exactly what you just said. 234 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.080 The example I'm going to give you, those of us 235 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.000 who are those of you who are listening to our 236 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.399 program today is an imperfect example. There's no doubt about it. 237 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.600 I'm not going to compare one group's pain or misery 238 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.720 over and against another person's pain or misery, but I 239 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.559 want to make it crystal clear what I think I 240 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:36.919 just heard doctor Decoq describe. She described the conditions in 241 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:44.240 the super Dome during Hurricane Katrina. That people are living 242 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:48.080 on top of each other in the most unsanitary and 243 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:53.919 unprotected of conditions, Unable to get food, unable to get 244 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:58.840 a cylinder for people who cannot breathe, unable to get dialysis, 245 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:05.879 unable to get medical care, pregnant women unable to get 246 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:13.399 maternal care, and the government not functioning, turning its back 247 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:19.519 on people in damp, humid, wet, and even cold in 248 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.960 the case of Katrina hot conditions. I wanted to bring 249 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:29.080 Ania our listeners into the description for what they've experienced 250 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.879 and their relatives experienced here in that small, isolated space 251 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.279 which I saw on a documentary just a few short 252 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.279 days ago, because I think everything that you shared with 253 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.519 me in that description, save for the fact that the 254 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:47.039 people of New Orleans were not bombed into that condition, 255 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.440 which is even more traumatic. Go ahead, doctor Hennia, I'm. 256 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:51.879 Sorry, you know, thank you. 257 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.720 You know, we are talking about, you know, like you know, 258 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:01.399 a catastrophic situation. Really, every UN PERSONNAL who has gone 259 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:06.519 international I'm not talking even about Palestinian International who gone 260 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.640 into Gaza, they have said this is like doomsday scenario, 261 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.400 you know, like it's like really so bad that it 262 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:20.319 is impossible for anybody to understand the magnitude of the 263 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:24.240 suffering that people are having to deal with. And we 264 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:29.359 are talking about civilian population mostly, you know what I mean, Like, like, 265 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:33.880 as you said, Hamas is a small portion of the population. 266 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:39.759 The population is Palestinian civilian population who are refugees. They 267 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:43.720 are not you know, freedom fighters or whatever it is 268 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:47.319 what we want to call it. They are civilian population. 269 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:55.920 They are teachers, doctors, you know, health workers, shopkeepers, whatever, 270 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:58.359 you know what I mean, whatever they have to do. 271 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:04.079 They are farmers, agricultural workers. They are all suffering. There 272 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.960 is not enough food in Gaza, for example, for sure, 273 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:08.519 you know what. 274 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.440 I mean, there is not enough material to build. 275 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.799 Also, you know, you are talking about even getting materials 276 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:21.240 for rebuilding of Gaza, which basically was promised that they 277 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.400 will rebuild Gaza and rebuild Gaza better. There is nothing 278 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.039 coming in and the population is in dire need of everything. 279 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.880 Plus you know, the climate condition at the moment is 280 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:41.799 just dramatic. No sanitation, no medical care, no food enough, 281 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:46.480 no schools working enough, you know, because like that most 282 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.039 of the schools have been destroyed and Honora schools actually 283 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:54.480 have been destroyed and targeted. And on top of that, 284 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:59.920 even the schools that are currently available, they are hosting refugees. 285 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.440 People are trying to stay there because at least they 286 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:08.319 will be. 287 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:09.119 Better in this type of conditions. 288 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:13.480 So I really feel that we really need to focus 289 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.160 again on Gaza because people think, you know, because all 290 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.119 the ceasfire is happening. 291 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.039 People are not being killed. 292 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:23.440 People are being killed on a daily basis still at 293 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:26.640 the moment. And at the same time, it's not only 294 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.119 they are killed in Gaza, they are also killed in 295 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.680 the West Bank. So and this is going to continue 296 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.839 because more than one thousand people were killed in the 297 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.880 West Bank just you know, in the last two years 298 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:40.640 since the. 299 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.519 War broke between Hannas and Israel. 300 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:49.119 Over from my side, I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. You're listening 301 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.079 to Worldwide with pl the Silva are very special. Guest 302 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.319 is doctor Hennia Tacack. We have more to discuss on 303 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.200 the Jesse Jackson Junior Show regarding the condition of the 304 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.880 Palestinian It's in the Gaza Strip, and I'd like to 305 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.359 also pose the question when we come forward about any 306 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:09.359 reconstruction efforts doctor de Silva that might be being discussed 307 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:13.000 in terms of providing the Palestinians with some level of 308 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:17.400 civilized living, including but not limited to the construction or 309 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.440 the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip on the scale that 310 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:24.480 will probably require the entire world community's involvement. I'm Jesse 311 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.359 Jackson Jr. You're listening to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show 312 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.799 on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty more with doctor Peel 313 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.119 da Silva and doctor Aniadcock. When we come forward, I'm 314 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:34.160 Jesse Junior. 315 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.200 Welcome forward. 316 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:39.319 To the Jesse Jackson Junior show on Wealthy Wednesday is 317 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.799 our very special regular contributor, Doctor Peel da Silva is 318 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.920 with us and also our very special guest, doctor Henia 319 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.599 the Cock. Doctor de Cock has been doing a lot 320 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:56.400 of work with Palastinian She's a Palestinian doctor and when 321 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:01.559 we think about Palestinian refugees, particularly the most vulnerable amongst 322 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.440 the Palestinian refugees, women and children. There's also a role 323 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.680 for the United Nations in that I want to ask 324 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.039 doctor Decock about some of the practical issues that delivering 325 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.640 the following services are in the camps UNFPA. The United 326 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.839 Nations Population Fund is the uns sexual and reproductive health 327 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.759 agency working globally to ensure every pregnancy is wanted, every 328 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:27.839 childbirth is safe, and every young person's potential is fulfilled 329 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.200 by providing reproductive health services, promoting gender equality, and addressing 330 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:37.599 population issues like family planning, maternal health, and gender based violence. 331 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.160 Established in nineteen sixty nine, it supports countries in improving 332 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.160 reproductive health, collecting population data, and empowering women and youth 333 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:50.720 with goals including indo provenalvinable maternal deaths and harmful practices 334 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:58.400 like FGM and child marriage. I'm wondering doctor Decc what 335 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:02.480 some of the practical issues use are the UNFPA needs 336 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:06.319 to overcome the delivery, productive and midwifery health services for 337 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:07.480 Palestinian one. 338 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:09.839 Thank you Jesse. 339 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:17.039 There are many elements that UNFPA provide in humanitarian setting 340 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.720 maternal services for example, making sure that women can deliver 341 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:28.000 safely and with no infection and being able to get 342 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:34.079 life saving emergence of cetric care. So we work on 343 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.000 many levels. So at the level of like let us 344 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:42.599 say a midwife supporting a woman in childbirth, plus you know, 345 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.440 making sure that if the woman has complicated pregnancy and 346 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.720 need to deliver urgently, then there is emergency of cefect 347 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.880 care available so that we can do a cesarean section 348 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.559 and be able to deliver the baby safely and also 349 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:06.079 save the woman's life. So for u NFPA, getting the 350 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:11.720 medical supplies in and having the trained personnel are very 351 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:12.680 very essential. 352 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.079 They are really life saving in that sense. 353 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:20.720 So even the basics at the moment are not available 354 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:25.799 in Gaza, so it's very important that UNFPA gets all 355 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.680 these supplies inside Gaza. 356 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.039 In order to basically be able to. 357 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:35.599 Save lives, the woman's life and the child lives. But 358 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:38.240 at the same time, you know, there are maybe women 359 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.039 who don't want to have kids at this moment, so 360 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:47.680 that's at the same time, if the woman needs family 361 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:53.799 planning device or tablets or pills, that the pills are 362 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.279 available and it's available for them. 363 00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:58.799 If we are talking. 364 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.119 About women who are you know, like exposed to sexual 365 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:06.000 violence or gender based violence, they have to have the 366 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:10.039 minimum you know, elements of making sure. 367 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.440 That we uh. 368 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:16.279 Stop any infection from happening, making sure that you know, 369 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:21.119 we provide PROFILEXIS for HIV AIDS, you know, all of 370 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:24.240 these things you know that needs to be provided, plus 371 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:30.880 provide psychosocial support and psychological care for these women. Uh. 372 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.400 And this process is not going to be one day, 373 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.920 two days, or you know, one time. It has to 374 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.039 be continuous for a period of time in order to 375 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.440 ensure that these uh women. 376 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.039 Have the care they need. 377 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:53.359 So definitely we support medical doctors, health professionals, personnel, midwives, 378 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:58.400 nurses in order to do their work. We support mobile 379 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.319 health teams. At the moment, as you know, all the 380 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:06.200 health facilities have been destroyed or you know, totally and 381 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.240 functioning at the moment, so we are doing mobile teams 382 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:17.359 that goes out and support the women and really provide 383 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.680 maternal health and newborn health because also you don't forget 384 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.079 that a lot of the newborns need attention also because 385 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.759 otherwise they will die from currently because of the weather, 386 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:35.039 they will die from hypothermia, you know, from something which 387 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.960 basically should not happen in this time and age that 388 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.640 we have children dying from hypothermia or because they got 389 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.319 an infection and they have. 390 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.000 Tetanos or something like that. 391 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.440 So we need to make sure that these supplies are available, 392 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:58.759 and so UNFA provide emergency reproductive health kids which are prepositioned, 393 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.440 you know, they are proposed. So they are big kits. 394 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.559 They are not small things that you carry on. They 395 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:05.720 are really. 396 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:10.599 One ton type of like big supplies. 397 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.720 Everything that you need for a c section, everything that 398 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:19.880 you need to resuscitate the baby, incubators, ultra sounds, all 399 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.839 of this type of things that you would enable a 400 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:28.359 medical personnel to provide the support, ivy fluids, all of this, 401 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:35.759