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They think that I'm 32 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.639 like all factual, factually driven and stuff. But I mean 33 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:27.199 I am to a certain degree. But I've never ruled 34 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.599 out the possibility that there are things going on outside 35 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.759 of our realm of perception. I mean, obviously there is 36 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:39.759 Obviously there is entities out there lurking. Obviously there is 37 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.840 an astral realm. There is an astral plane. I've visited 38 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.400 it a few times. I've never really been outside of 39 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.520 my body, but come close, come really close, and I've 40 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:56.879 experienced the pure darkness, the darkness realm in a near 41 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.919 death experience. I think I've spoken on that several times 42 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.560 so I think people have like a weird, weird thing 43 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:06.280 with me where they're like, oh, you know, you know 44 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.240 what I mean, Like, there's people on the internet. Those 45 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.759 people on the internet, waene, sometimes they can suck my friend. 46 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.520 You know, as I was talking today over on my show, 47 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:26.319 is that technically we are already in the astral realm. 48 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:31.599 We're just in one subdivision of it. And it seems 49 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.639 like there's a lease that you know, once the lease 50 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.159 comes up, then you head to the next one. And 51 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.879 I have no doubt that I think the vast majority 52 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:48.080 of us are going to be shocked when we make 53 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:55.599 that transition in hopefully consciousness is transferable, you know. If 54 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.680 it's not, then I don't know what we're going to 55 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:02.280 be in. But you know, the say it mimics a 56 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.599 lot of what this reality looks like. 57 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:09.439 That's what I'm thinking, Doane. I'm like, well, what if 58 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.400 whenever we die and we go to another likely let's 59 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.800 just take the take it for granted that whenever we 60 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.240 die in this physical avatar that we're in and we 61 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.600 go to another place, who's to say that that place 62 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:29.000 doesn't suck too. There's that other reality over there doesn't suck, 63 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:32.439 just as much as people think that this reality sucks, 64 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:34.439 which I don't think that this reality sucks. I think 65 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.120 that this reality is probably the only reality in existence 66 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.560 where we can experience this physical existence. I don't know 67 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.600 if any other realm or any other reality we're going 68 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.959 to be able to experience things the way that we 69 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.560 experience them here. I don't know what do you think 70 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:50.920 of that? 71 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:59.399 Well, when you think about that transitioning either First of all, 72 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:04.519 we have to decide is there going to be someone 73 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.240 on the other side waiting for us that we know 74 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.000 or identify. But then again, you know, when we were born, 75 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:18.519 did we really know our parents? It's like, and how 76 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.079 do we make that transition? In the paranormal it would 77 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:29.360 say that, you know, we end up having spirits, souls 78 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:36.040 that somehow are formless but yet are conscious. I don't 79 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.079 think it's that a way. I think that we actually 80 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:42.040 carry this, the image of these avatars, these bodies with us, 81 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.240 because at least in the beginning, how are we going 82 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:49.120 to be identified or do we go in as like 83 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.079 we do here as newborn babies. And if that's the case, 84 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.079 I hope there's someone over there who's waiting for us. 85 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.600 But either way, we're all heading there. 86 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:01.199 And as I. 87 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.839 Have come to believe, I don't think we all end 88 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.160 up in the same place. It just doesn't make sense 89 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:16.800 that you would throw every human being basically into one pile. 90 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.519 And you know, if a person who went through life 91 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:27.639 who wasn't spiritually motivated or minded and really didn't pay 92 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:31.920 much attention to that where another That's all we did 93 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:36.000 was our whole time here was to improve ourselves spiritually, 94 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.800 and that's an essence preparing for this next level. I 95 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:47.079 just don't see how that that would mix. So I 96 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.680 believe it's going to be better than what we thought. 97 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:57.120 Well, let's take the Christian perspective of this right heaven 98 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.319 and the way that some Christian believe that heaven is 99 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.879 going to work, and how it's going to operate. Right, 100 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.959 How would you be able to quantify an endless amount 101 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:15.000 of like happiness and like ecstasy and like love. That 102 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:19.079 almost seems like that it would drive someone completely crazy. 103 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.839 And that's what I mean by like us having a 104 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:25.879 balance here. We get to have a balance of that 105 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.480 in this reality that kind of levels the playing fields. 106 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.800 It gets tilted one way some days heavily. You know, 107 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.759 you can be really excited. You can be really happy here, 108 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:38.959 but on the opposite end of that, you can also 109 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.519 be really sad and really depressed. So it ends up 110 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.360 like balancing itself out. If you were in an endless 111 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:51.680 state of happiness in ecstasy, wing would you not lose 112 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:55.240 your mind? You would think that you would almost lose 113 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:59.720 your mind, right, And that goes back to what I 114 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.600 have that I heard someone say a really long time ago, 115 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:08.680 probably in like twenty ten or even earlier. They said 116 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:16.600 that demons, what what we would personify as demons, actually 117 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:23.879 dwell in nothing butt ecstasy. That's why they're so in pain, right, 118 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.040 That's why they're evil, right, because they dwell in nothing 119 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:32.480 butt ecstasy, Okay, and angels dwell in nothing but pain 120 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:38.720 in sadness, right. So, and I thought that that was 121 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.840 really interesting. I was like, Okay, well, you could probably 122 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:48.600 figure out a way to manage pain and sadness, right, 123 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.960 You would be able to quantify that in your in 124 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.120 your brain. Unless it's like a completely one, just overwhelming 125 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:59.559 amount of pain and sadness, then it would be really 126 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:05.000 ridicul But being able to manage an endless amount of ecstasy, 127 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.360 And I mean some people take ecstasy and they get, 128 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.159 they lose their mind. And that's a drug that I'm saying. 129 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.759 I just mean, like an endless state of ecstasy. You 130 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.720 would you would. I don't understand how you would be 131 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:23.679 able to handle that. So if heaven does exist or 132 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.960 this other round doesn't exist, there would have to be 133 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.840 some kind of managing of that, and you would have 134 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:32.159 to have some you'd have to have a range of emotions. 135 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:38.759 But that's what we have here, is a range of 136 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:39.759 emotions here. 137 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:45.679 And to be you know, technical as a Bible student, 138 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:53.240 the Old Testament doesn't talk about heaven because the Jewish 139 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:56.519 belief is is that they will be resurrected and they 140 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:01.559 become kind of the owners of the world at their promise. 141 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.799 The idea of heaven comes into the New Testament teachings, 142 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:12.559 and it's really kind of strange because Paul says that 143 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:20.320 there are seven levels to Heaven, implying that each one 144 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:26.320 is greater than the one previous. If you believe. In 145 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.240 the Book of Revelation, it states that Heaven is an 146 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:38.639 actual planet city dimensions are fifteen hundred miles high, fifteen 147 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:43.759 hundred miles wide, it's a cube, and that it will 148 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.559 physically come back here to earth. So this whole thing 149 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:55.840 of heaven for me is really bizarre. It talks about 150 00:10:55.879 --> 00:11:03.120 this God having his throne, which is a crystal throne 151 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.320 on a sea of crystal. It's got these really weird 152 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:15.399 creatures at each corner of his throne. Then it's surrounded 153 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:22.240 by twenty four male elders. And when you start reading this, 154 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.519 and you particularly if you believe it, you're you know, 155 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:31.960 a devoted to the belief system. It begins to write 156 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:37.080 an image that most people don't really think about. And 157 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:42.320 in heaven for Christians is different than what well again, 158 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:44.840 and then the Jewish belief system, they don't have heaven, 159 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:55.440 so and hell well, hell in our modern construct is 160 00:11:55.600 --> 00:12:04.080 very recent, basically fifteenth sixteenth century. Dante's was the one 161 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.039 who said it. The Catholic Church adapted to it and 162 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.519 enrolled it into our reality, making us believe that there 163 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.879 is some bizarro place that where there's this pain and 164 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:23.240 suffering and YadA, YadA, YadA, and there's some writer who 165 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:28.480 believe that when you die that while every one of 166 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:34.720 your syntaxes are basically exploding, and it has the image 167 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:40.960 of a brightness to your consciousness, you think about it, 168 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.240 you're probably going to end up where you think you're 169 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.879 destined already. It's not where I don't think where you 170 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.440 end up permanently. But there's a transition period until you 171 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.000 begin to realize, well that's not true. That's how I 172 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.759 transitioned from you know, as a minister of the Gospel 173 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.840 and Christianity. You know, the whole idea was the saving 174 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.799 of your soul, not your spirit, your soul. It's all 175 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:12.279 about soul collecting h And as I see heaven, now 176 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:18.000 heaven would be hell, and hell in its construct would 177 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:18.879 almost be heaven. 178 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:26.360 Yeah, rob, as I kind of agree with this heaven. 179 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.399 There's a bargainingship in the game of control. 180 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.519 I often wonder if they rob, if they got a 181 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:40.159 roulette table up there, all right, what's your number there? 182 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.600 You know, it's like okay, uh. But no matter how 183 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.919 it is, I contend I've said this on before that 184 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.480 our species at one time knew how to die. We 185 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.720 had the knowledge as to how to make this transition 186 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.639 from this realm to the next. And in some cultures, 187 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:05.000 like in India, there are those who can actually still 188 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.440 remember how to do that. I mean, you get old enough, 189 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.519 growing old sucks. There's nothing real pleasant about growing old. 190 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.480 So when you've had enough of your feel of this place, 191 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.159 you're supposed to just go in and lay down and 192 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.200 allow the spirit to go and let the body do 193 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:27.360 what the body is supposed to do. But it isn't 194 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.000 that a way. Now we have my wife's in the 195 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.759 death industry as a hospice nurse, and so she sees 196 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:41.639 it all the time, and there is something we all 197 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.799 go to. It's very very very plain that there is. 198 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:56.399 What's interesting is how the individual handles that reality. And 199 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:00.080 there are some who fight it and they have drugs 200 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:05.159 that allow for what they call a quieter transition, and 201 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.679 then there's those who embrace it and seem to go 202 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.960 with almost a smile on their face. 203 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.399 Yeah. I don't really know what to exactly think of it. 204 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:21.399 I mean, it seems like that what Robos said is 205 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:26.559 pretty accurate. I mean, if you were, let's say you 206 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.879 were like born super rich. When like I watched a 207 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.360 video the other day where this guy was like he 208 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.360 was on a podcast and he was talking and he 209 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.080 was like, yeah, my family's super rich. I was born 210 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.120 super rich. He was like, I don't know, twenty seven 211 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:44.039 years old, and he was like, I've never had fast 212 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:48.279 food before. I've never ate fast food before. I've never 213 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.440 ate McDonald's, I've never eat Burger King, I've never ate 214 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:56.279 anything fast food. I've always had a private chef, you know. 215 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.960 And that almost sounds like, you know, some people that 216 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.120 would almost be like I have an on Earth type 217 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.600 of scenario, right, like you don't have to worry about 218 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.759 any of this stuff you or you have all the 219 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.960 money to take care of like all of your needs, 220 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.159 you know. Meanwhile, where there's you know, people you know, 221 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.799 struggling to make a living out here and get five 222 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:20.679 to ten dollars in their pocket, you know what I mean, 223 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.200 and they have to do things to just be able 224 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:28.919 to survive in this reality that would almost be like 225 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:35.159 a version of hell for them. Right. So it seems 226 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.559 like we have we already have these blendings of like 227 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:44.519 these two realities already in this reality. And it seems 228 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:50.720 like that there's this construct of this idea of having 229 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:56.759 this idea of oh, well, you you don't like this reality, 230 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.799 don't worry about it. It's almost like a bargaining chip 231 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:04.079 for or the poor and for the middle class, right, 232 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.119 It's like, Okay, well, you might not make it here. 233 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.119 You might not have a good life here or a 234 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:13.000 good reality here, but in the next one, Wayne, and 235 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.400 the next when everything is going to be okay and 236 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.039 everything everyone's gonna love each other and you're gonna be 237 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.799 popular and you're gonna you're gonna be famous, and the 238 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.519 next one. You know, it almost seems like something that's 239 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.200 like a carrot that's just dangled in front of people 240 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.359 to make it seem like, oh, well, you know, have 241 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.000 something to kind of live for. And I think that 242 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:37.680 that is a big purpose of organized religion, is to 243 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.960 give people something to live for and something to be 244 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.359 good for. You know, we have to follow all of 245 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.960 what Jesus said, you know, we have to follow the 246 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.799 ten commandments, or you know, we're not gonna be blessed 247 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:51.480 in heaven. You know, we're not gonna be able to 248 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.359 set it the right hand of God. Blah blah blah 249 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:56.839 blah blahlah blah. You know. And that's the that's their 250 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:02.079 only reason for being a good person in this reality. 251 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.480 And I'm like, well, that's something that I caught onto 252 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.359 very early. I was like, I don't need to follow 253 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.119 these things to be a good person. I can just 254 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.960 be a good person. That's what a good person is 255 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.839 supposed to do. I don't need to be a good 256 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.880 person for some kind of reward. Whenever people do things 257 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.599 for a reward, it's like they it's almost seems like 258 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.559 they have like ulterior motives in that right. Very few 259 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:37.119 people give and not expect something in return. But I've 260 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:43.400 found that if you give, then you are going to 261 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.720 get something back, regardless if that's like a good vibe. 262 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.400 You know, we're in this materialistic world, and we have 263 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.559 this materialistic sense of Okay, well if I give them something, 264 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.720 then then they're going to give me something back, or 265 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.519 that I'm going to need some thing immediately in return. 266 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.160 I've seen this happen so many times in my personal life, 267 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:10.119 you know, like I'll put something out right, like I'll 268 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:13.039 just leave something out that I don't need anymore. I'm 269 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.440 getting ready to move, so I'm just gonna leave a 270 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:17.839 bunch of stuff out here, like on the curb, right, 271 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:20.880 and I'm gonna post it on some group on Facebook 272 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.440 and be like, hey, come by, this is a free 273 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.079 a free pile of stuff here. Come by and get it, 274 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:31.519 you know, And they normally do. It's normally gone really quickly. 275 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:36.599 But I don't ever expect anything back in return, but 276 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:42.240 something normally always does come back in return, right Like 277 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.079 I'll get something like someone I'll be I'll find a 278 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.119 twenty dollars bill on the ground. And it doesn't even 279 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:48.640 have to be anything like that. It can be like 280 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.799 a blessing in a different kind of way, doesn't have 281 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.839 to be a maybe an opportunity arises for me to 282 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.799 do something, you know what I mean the universe. When 283 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.079 we think that the universe is kind of always conspiring 284 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.759 in our favor, Like what you say on your show 285 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.599 all the time, Wayne, Favor put favor on you. I 286 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:13.200 am favor, you are favor. Then that expands out to 287 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:17.039 like everything in your reality, and you always have that favor. 288 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:20.079 So therefore you don't have to worry about getting anything back. 289 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.200 It always just comes to you. But it comes to 290 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.319 you in different kinds of ways that you really can't 291 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.359 really expect, so you can't like figure out what it is. 292 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.119 It just happens. I don't know if that makes any sense, writer. 293 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:39.920 I've come to see it that there is this this 294 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.960 greater reality that we're all immersed into. But what I 295 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.880 have discovered in my life in over seventy years is 296 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.720 that we can create our own reality within this reality, 297 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:58.599 and it's it's principles. My mentor is growing up where 298 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:04.799 people like Earl Knight and zig Ziggler was another Brian tracy, 299 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:11.079 And what I learned from those men was that you 300 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.480 can have two individuals both come from let's say, a 301 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.960 lack of education, their families did not have money, and 302 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:27.279 they would be considered socially and economically disadvantage. And it's 303 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:32.759 interesting because the two have exactly the same thing, but 304 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:38.680 one has learned the secret that what you put forth 305 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.559 is what the universe is going to give back. And 306 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:49.079 once you get into the rhythm of expectation with results, 307 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.519 it changes your whole life. And it's not about a god, 308 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:57.720 it's not about it's about to me, the raw forces 309 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:01.039 of creation, this thing that we all the universe of 310 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:04.279 our existence. It seems to work on that. Some call 311 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:09.720 it the seed principle. You sew a seed and when 312 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:14.400 the harvest comes back in the seed always produces greater 313 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.839 than itself. These seem to be universal laws, and those 314 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:23.839 laws seem to work in the opposite. I think it's 315 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:28.880 interesting that you find individuals that who you see it 316 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:31.519 all the time on these reality shows, the cops shows 317 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.640 that the cops end up pulling over the individual that 318 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.720 just so happens, you know, to not have a driver's 319 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:44.680 license in doom Doom, Doom doom. And for myself as 320 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:50.440 a philosopher, it's because that individual was expecting to get 321 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.119 pulled over. That was their greatest fear. So that's what 322 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.799 they were exactly manifesting, and that's exactly what the universe 323 00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:58.319 gave them. 324 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:00.720 Yep. 325 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:06.279 I mean these are principles that and you know, to 326 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.319 be rich, you told the story about the guy having 327 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:13.000 a chef. I wouldn't you see? For me, I like cooking. 328 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:18.039 I'm an alchemist. Cooking is the greatest experience of alchemy, 329 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:24.480 and I know I would be very uncomfortable about that, 330 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.160 you know, So I don't think that that's an advantage. 331 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.839 I think that would ultimately be a disadvantage. 332 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.799 Yeah. But then too, if your circumstances didn't lead you 333 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:43.960 to having to cook, would you like want to cook? See, 334 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.079 that's the whole thing about our experiences here. All of 335 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:51.440 our experiences have led us and have molded and shaped 336 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.119 our reality of like what we like and what we 337 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.640 dislike here. So if you would have been born into 338 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.680 that situation where you didn't have to cook, would you 339 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.680 enjoy cooking? You probably wouldn't because you wouldn't know how 340 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:08.240 to cook. That's like, that's like the that's like the 341 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:12.279 whole thing here is like depending on what your circumstances 342 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:16.160 were growing up and what kind of environment you were 343 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.599 in and where you were born dictates your entire life. Basically, 344 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:25.599 you know, your core beliefs and in certain ways, I mean, 345 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:31.720 there are fundamental things that are very hard to shake that. 346 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.799 I mean, this is why crime, and this is why 347 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.640 drug addicts, and this is why you know, alcoholics and 348 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:42.039 all that stuff. It becomes like this trap, this this 349 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:46.079 all encompassing type of you know, uh trap, and like 350 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:49.599 repeat offenders because they can't see any way out of 351 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.200 the situation that they're currently in, so then they just 352 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.640 continue to go down this down, downward spiral. 353 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.839 But as you were talking, so I come, you know, 354 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:07.240 my upbringing, my parents weren't weren't we were poor, But 355 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.640 I eventually, because of the abuse, ended up you know, 356 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:16.279 awarded the state. And so one of the foster homes 357 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:23.920 that I got put into were was from a very wealthy, wealthy, 358 00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:29.640 wealthy family, and their customs were very foreign to me. 359 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.279 I mean I had to wear a white shirt and 360 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.039 a tie. I didn't even know. I didn't I was 361 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:38.279 a kid. I didn't know what a tie was. And 362 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.519 that's how we came to have dinner. And they actually 363 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.880 had people serving dinner. So what and what ended up happening? 364 00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:50.839 The uh Child Welfare of People had to take me 365 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:56.359 out of that home because it was so different for 366 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.680 the shock of my reality and plus what I had 367 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:02.079 just come out to. So my point is, yeah, I 368 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.079 you know, there is a price to be paid, and 369 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.400 there is something you know, with those who are of 370 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.519 a of a higher wealth, and then there is accustom 371 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.559 to it, and then there's some people dislike myself. I'm 372 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.880 just an older hippie that learned how to adapt to 373 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.400 the system that I find that very uncomfortable. 374 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:30.279 You know, I think we're really adoptable. We're a really 375 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.559 adoptable species. Like I think that we can adapt to 376 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.720 any kind of environment or the better or for the worse, 377 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:39.400 you know. 378 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:43.359 I mean that could be the argument of right now 379 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.799 in our day and age. I mean the question of 380 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:53.160 our species are whole existence is are we going to 381 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.319 be able to still be masters of our sovereignty or 382 00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.440 have we surrendered that to that of our own creation, 383 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:09.480 you know, speaking of AI, it's everywhere, it's for myself. 384 00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.920 I look back at this. You're much younger than I am. 385 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.039 You've always had computers in one form and another in 386 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.240 your life, right, not. 387 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:23.119 In the very beginning of my life, but I think 388 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:28.640 we got a computer, like when I was around nine 389 00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.920 or something like that. I can barely remember a couple 390 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.799 of years there where we didn't have some kind of computers. 391 00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.960 So yeah, you can say, you can say been around 392 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:39.960 computers and cell phones. 393 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.599 I think the baby boomers, you know, if you think 394 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.200 about it, I was born a decade after the end 395 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:52.559 of World War Two. You put that in perspective, and 396 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.880 in today, you know, our reality is changing so rapidly. 397 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:05.640 I mean, it makes one think that you can't help 398 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.839 but not conclude that there seems to be a greater 399 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.240 force at work here. And I don't know if it's 400 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.920 good or bad, because in one hand you think that 401 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.839