Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. How does William Ramsey Welcome to
Speaker 1: William Ramsey Investigates on today's show, have a very special guest.
Speaker 1: We've done a couple shows together. We've done shows on
Speaker 1: nights and multi recently, and Gladiot's kind of overlaps with
Speaker 1: our topic tonight. I was also on his show on
Speaker 1: the New Wayos podcast talking about Crowley. But I've noticed
Speaker 1: that he was doing a lot of research into dew
Speaker 1: Tro Mark Dutrou, this hole event that happened in Belgium.
Speaker 1: Some people are familiar with it, some people know more.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to know. And the timing is actually
Speaker 1: incredible because we arranged this earlier this month, maybe late
Speaker 1: in January. Today is February twenty seventh, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and supposedly the big day of the release of the
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein files, all these vaunted files, and then they
Speaker 1: slow roll it and then they released some binders to
Speaker 1: a bunch of social influencers. I call them social sphincters
Speaker 1: because what they released in these binders is ridiculous. Like
Speaker 1: I know the Epstein files, like I've done tons of
Speaker 1: shows on Epstein from twenty nineteen when he was arrested
Speaker 1: when he was murdered in jail. Like, I've read so
Speaker 1: many files on Epstein and when they what they released
Speaker 1: as a joke, I mean, it's not even a it's laughable,
Speaker 1: and maybe they're slow rolling it or whatever, but these
Speaker 1: were and they perlorided them out with these guys like
Speaker 1: it was some kind of big event, like in the
Speaker 1: White House, Like come on, somebody, who you think we're
Speaker 1: all suckers like this is why don't you just release
Speaker 1: it to the public. That's like you show these fake releases.
Speaker 1: This is a fake release, a joke release, as opposed
Speaker 1: to WikiLeaks, who just put the stuff out like Okay,
Speaker 1: these are our files. You guys can go through them,
Speaker 1: release the autists, release the journalists, release the independent journalists
Speaker 1: on these files, and let them go and unredact the
Speaker 1: whole thing. So this is just kind of another pseudo
Speaker 1: kind of release. It looks just sketchy, and these guys
Speaker 1: look worse than we're in releasing this than actually looking
Speaker 1: like truth Tale as your transparency. They shouldn't even have
Speaker 1: released it. I mean, it's a total joke anyway, dude,
Speaker 1: tro does have overlaps to Epstein. Epstein is a huge
Speaker 1: national cultural event. It's not just some limited kind of
Speaker 1: one off of a pedal. This guy was blackmailing everybody
Speaker 1: he could with the Glain Maxwell. These guys are spooks,
Speaker 1: they're working for probably multiple government agencies. There's clearly FBI
Speaker 1: boxes in there, so Cash Betel should have access if
Speaker 1: they haven't just torched everything at the FBI building and
Speaker 1: and you know put it into you know, paper mill
Speaker 1: or something like that. But still that information should be
Speaker 1: you know, available of what's going on with Epstein, and
Speaker 1: people need to know because we're just like the midst
Speaker 1: of some of the worst corruption we've ever seen in
Speaker 1: this country. Hundreds of billions of dollars are missing, there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of pedophile blackmail going on, Strange things happening
Speaker 1: all around the world. Influencers too, Some of these influencers
Speaker 1: you just oppose he had the scene stuff is very suspect.
Speaker 1: Dutreux is like that, Mark Dutroux. They always tried to
Speaker 1: minimize it and make it look like it was just
Speaker 1: a small guy. This is a massive net. It's actually
Speaker 1: part of the Belgian society. It's actually worse than that.
Speaker 1: It's not even a network there's just a really dark
Speaker 1: underbelly of satanism, child abuse, orgying drugs, and Dutroux was
Speaker 1: just a part of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, he's a It's an interesting story because
Speaker 2: even the idea that we even call it the Dutroux
Speaker 2: fair at all is kind of a misnomer because dutrou
Speaker 2: is such a I mean he is I do think
Speaker 2: he resides in an interesting spot within the network. He's
Speaker 2: kind of like the nexus between the like on the
Speaker 2: ground thugs and then kind of like the actual like
Speaker 2: a hoity toity network above. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, he is, you know, kind of simply just
Speaker 2: the henchman he seems to be. He's a handyman, electrician.
Speaker 2: He seems to actually fill a similar role amongst this group.
Speaker 2: And he also kind of has below him this almost
Speaker 2: like a crew, like a little gang. I forget there
Speaker 2: was a name for him too. I can't recall the
Speaker 2: name of the gang. But you see here l layer
Speaker 2: of you know, on the right there, who is one
Speaker 2: of those individuals in the gang. He was helping him
Speaker 2: kidnap and rape children. So it is it is interesting
Speaker 2: that it's you know, left as the doutrou affair, when
Speaker 2: in reality, I think it'd be far more accurate to
Speaker 2: call it the kneehol affair, or even higher than that,
Speaker 2: because this is the story that doesn't stop giving. The
Speaker 2: more you dig into it, the more you are blown away.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is kind of this is a you know,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, subject number one for me and
Speaker 2: Austin's like ongoing, like we're getting ready to go back
Speaker 2: on timfol Had again. We've been working on a new
Speaker 2: theme that we can kind of like talking about, and
Speaker 2: really it's the same thing we've always kind of come
Speaker 2: back to on our show, like the idea of how
Speaker 2: all roads seem to lead back to Gladio And it's
Speaker 2: almost like Gladys this multifaceted op with so many different layers.
Speaker 2: There's like drug trafficking, sex trafficking, network, like blackmail, like
Speaker 2: all different you know, there's you know, satanic elements, and
Speaker 2: this is kind of the one of the best examples
Speaker 2: of this. I mean, there are so many different ways,
Speaker 2: if anything, it's almost overwhelming how many different angles you
Speaker 2: can take with it, which so we we could easily
Speaker 2: spend probably three plus hours just going random little thread.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I guess I don't know where exactly
Speaker 2: you want to bring this initially, I guess we can
Speaker 2: kind of lay out where you know, the the the
Speaker 2: beginnings of this, but I mean I'll let you lead.
Speaker 3: You're the host.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can go so many different ways with
Speaker 2: the story. But it is interesting to you know, it is,
Speaker 2: and it's almost kind of like it is parallels today
Speaker 2: where the idea that you know, i mean, Dutro's on
Speaker 2: a perfect and you know, fill in for an Epstein,
Speaker 2: but Epstein's the same thing, Like.
Speaker 3: He was kind of not the one guy.
Speaker 2: He clearly, if anything, Glame was probably a bigger fish
Speaker 2: than him in my opinion. And then beyond that you
Speaker 2: had Robert Maxwell, who's obviously dead. So but I mean
Speaker 2: you look into that, you know, that's also the gift
Speaker 2: that keeps giving. You know, this guy was involved in
Speaker 2: like slinging the promise software, all sorts of different espionage
Speaker 2: all over the country. I mean, this clearly comes back
Speaker 2: to Massad too with him. I mean, it doesn't so
Speaker 2: much of dutrou affairs, so there's no parallel there as
Speaker 2: far as I'm aware. But you know, and then you know,
Speaker 2: on the we had the picture today with all the
Speaker 2: influencers all want every single one of them are notable Zionists,
Speaker 2: which I mean, fine, whatever, but like geez, Louise, like
Speaker 2: I know me and it's kind of reminds me of
Speaker 2: like me and Austin had a good laugh the other
Speaker 2: day where the whistleblower and if you saw the video
Speaker 2: of the whistleblower who came out that said before this
Speaker 2: kind of prepping us for this, the idea that, oh,
Speaker 2: the FBI is shredding all these Epstein documents and JFK
Speaker 2: documents and stuff. Yes, And it was the most it
Speaker 2: was probably one of the most aggressively. I mean, not
Speaker 2: that there's necessarily wrong with being this, but the most
Speaker 2: aggressively look a Jewish guy you've ever seen. And it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of ironic, and you're like kind of like,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Seriously. It's because it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't believe you. I don't, I don't, I don't believe
Speaker 2: you that this was Oh Oopsie's they're delating them now.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, someone got a hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: from Miriam Madelson and the checks coming checks paying.
Speaker 3: Off right now.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get a wash and hopefully maybe
Speaker 2: we can get a white March like happened in Bellem
Speaker 2: if this keeps going, because fose are untaware. This did
Speaker 2: lead up to the Belgium kind of uprising and really
Speaker 2: voicing their issues, and I think they did probably throw
Speaker 2: some bricks in the works of this whole, this whole
Speaker 2: you know, whatever was.
Speaker 3: Going on here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was like three hundred to three hundred
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people that marched in protests of how this
Speaker 2: all went down, since it was a very obvious cover up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll pass it off to you. I'm just
Speaker 3: rambling now.
Speaker 1: This well, let's just talk about for people who may
Speaker 1: not know why it got the name, do you true afair?
Speaker 1: It got the name because something happened in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: ninety six that opened up this whole thing and an investigation.
Speaker 1: People were freaked out, So maybe we can just talk
Speaker 1: about the basics and then expand from that, like what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it was the Julian Melissa kidnapping that
Speaker 2: really set it off. That's where the the people got involved.
Speaker 2: Although this happened before and there were other it is
Speaker 2: kind of hard. This is a you know, This is
Speaker 2: a one of those cases I've had to, you know,
Speaker 2: look at from many different angles to really get a
Speaker 2: grip on it. It's a little bit confusing because you know,
Speaker 2: you know, jumping around on the chronology where things, because yes,
Speaker 2: where this does kind of kick off as a Julie
Speaker 2: Melissa kidnapping, but there are things before.
Speaker 3: For example, du.
Speaker 2: Trou At nineteen eighty nine was he was that he
Speaker 2: got busted for abducting and raping five girls.
Speaker 3: He only got thirteen years in prison and.
Speaker 2: Ended up only doing three years in reality, so this
Speaker 2: happened before them, but this was kind of what it's
Speaker 2: kind of I guess, you know, the parallel here would
Speaker 2: be like with Epstein with his Sweetheart deal. Before most
Speaker 2: people weren't really aware of it. It didn't really register
Speaker 2: on the public consciousness. But it really was in ninety
Speaker 2: ninety five when Julie and Melissa are kidnapped and that
Speaker 2: the kind of circus that follows that that really started
Speaker 2: getting the public involved.
Speaker 3: They started realizing what is going on here.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a there were multiple other girls
Speaker 2: throughout this whole ordeal that got kidnapped too. A couple
Speaker 2: of them ended up surviving. I believe the rest of them,
Speaker 2: you know, met untimely fates, and it seemed pretty obvious
Speaker 2: throughout this. For example, there was a surveillance investigation throughout
Speaker 2: this there where they were watching Dutrou's house.
Speaker 3: Where they literally were the kids.
Speaker 2: The children were being held and they tried to escape
Speaker 2: multiple times, like it was able to be proven that
Speaker 2: they escaped. They were visible where the cameras when the
Speaker 2: people were supposedly conducting surveillance, but somehow they never saw them.
Speaker 2: It was ludicrous, this surveillance that they conducted on them.
Speaker 2: It was like something ridiculous, like maybe just a couple
Speaker 2: hours a day during the days he was the least active.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was completely a put on and if anything had
Speaker 2: actually filled the role of giving the appearance this public show,
Speaker 2: you know, as we just kind of got this public
Speaker 2: show of look at what we're doing to address this problem. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: what it really ended up doing was preventing other agencies
Speaker 2: from getting involved because they thought, oh, look, this thing's
Speaker 2: not unlocked. It also makes the public think, oh, it's
Speaker 2: being taken care of. Meanwhile nothing's being done and the
Speaker 2: children are literally starving to death in the house as
Speaker 2: it's happening. Actually, I take that back a little bit,
Speaker 2: that there is a contention in whether they're starving to death.
Speaker 2: Later we find out there were like twenty five plus
Speaker 2: different hair samples found in the dungeon they were in,
Speaker 2: and so the story that, oh, well, because Dutreux was
Speaker 2: in prison during this time, the story that, oh, they
Speaker 2: just starved to death while he was in prison doesn't
Speaker 2: really seem to hold up given the all the DNA
Speaker 2: that obvious you seem to.
Speaker 3: Never actually get followed up on.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that that seems to comport with the idea
Speaker 2: that there were other people looking after him. Also, the
Speaker 2: amount of time it took for them to die from
Speaker 2: starving to death and dehydration, it wouldn't make sense they
Speaker 2: lived for months after Dutreux went to jail, so that
Speaker 2: story does not jive. Somehow they were they managed to
Speaker 2: live on a little bit longer before meeting their fate
Speaker 2: while he was in prison, I mean. And then top
Speaker 2: it all off, these kids, these kids in question we
Speaker 2: just mentioned Juliane, Melissa, they were literally at one point
Speaker 2: they actually entered the the domicile of Dutreux searching for
Speaker 2: the children, and they could hear their children's voices. Investigators
Speaker 2: said it, and the the the lead investigator went silence,
Speaker 2: just said it loudly, and you know, the idea being like, oh,
Speaker 2: you could interpret that as like he's telling everyone else
Speaker 2: in the house to be quiet so we can listen.
Speaker 2: But then they just then the kids went silent, and
Speaker 2: they go no, nothing, and they moved on. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's more to suggest too that it's like it was.
Speaker 2: It was super ridiculous, the idea that they couldn't figure
Speaker 2: it out, that they were they were still in the house.
Speaker 2: They didn't really seem to do a thorough investigation. It
Speaker 2: was almost as if they didn't want to see it,
Speaker 2: and we're just trying to check a box to say
Speaker 2: they did what needed to be done. This is something
Speaker 2: I'm sure all of us can really really understand with
Speaker 2: late with events as of late, so right.
Speaker 1: Like no investigation, shoddy investigation. We are policed all the
Speaker 1: way through this whole case. And you talk about the
Speaker 1: White March, which was like three hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: people in Brussels right of the EU. Know that's where're
Speaker 1: you know, very strange. So there's weird connections between all
Speaker 1: these people but it's the same it's the same overlap
Speaker 1: between Epstein and Dutro is that during this investigation, they're
Speaker 1: finding all these elites, so Dutro is really just to
Speaker 1: go for He's like a kind of a load to
Speaker 1: mid level criminal, inexplicable amounts of money, three houses, cars,
Speaker 1: he's traveling around. Where's he getting his cash from? He
Speaker 1: was always a low kind of a lower level crook.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so these kids end up to survive, Like
Speaker 1: there's really incredible video of two surviving and two dying,
Speaker 1: and there's other mysterious disappearances of kids too. Right in
Speaker 1: this network, there's all kinds of weird things going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's when we get to the ex dossier,
Speaker 2: where then it comes to the other children that weren't
Speaker 2: like the initial one, which even then that could get you.
Speaker 2: It's hard to detract the chronology because the whole ex
Speaker 2: dossier Shenanigan's happened a decent amount after that too, because
Speaker 2: it wasn't until WikiLeaks released it later after the fact,
Speaker 2: when it.
Speaker 3: Kind of was like, hey, it was all over and
Speaker 3: everyone's kind of like, oh, the cover ups on.
Speaker 2: We moved on, and then WikiLeaks dropped that dropped that information,
Speaker 2: and which that's where it gets really wild. I mean,
Speaker 2: before it seemed like it was more just a I mean,
Speaker 2: there was the Peenon files that happened before that, which
Speaker 2: were also like a similar type thing where it's you know,
Speaker 2: implications of extremely high level individuals that were involved in
Speaker 2: the most ridiculous types of debauchery you could really imagine
Speaker 2: which and that was in the Peenon files, which was
Speaker 2: was Albert Penon, I believe it was supposedly his wife,
Speaker 2: you know, he was able to get she admitted to
Speaker 2: him the about these pink ballets that were occurring, and
Speaker 2: that's where then I guess he managed to collect some information.
Speaker 2: So there's like this is kind of becomes part of
Speaker 2: the story. The Peenon dossier that's supposedly floating out there.
Speaker 2: There's theories that different intelligence agencies got a hold of it,
Speaker 2: so there's kind of like blackmail versus blackmail, spy verse
Speaker 2: by type stuff. So there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2: But the Penon affair even proceeded there, you know, was
Speaker 2: before this, So I mean, these it's kind of hard
Speaker 2: not to tie these things all in, especially when the
Speaker 2: characters seem to all be the same ones floating around.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Belgium was like a huge hub
Speaker 2: for NATO as well, which for those of us you
Speaker 2: know inundated in the in the para political world are
Speaker 2: aware of Gladio and how that plays into NATO. Uh,
Speaker 2: Belgium was a Belgium played a big part in the
Speaker 2: in in Gladio. H. I mean, the the Brabant killings
Speaker 2: come into this, uh, which is the what were the gendarmes,
Speaker 2: which is the military police were literally running cover for
Speaker 2: a you know, essentially what was an intelligence front that
Speaker 2: was a pair of military organization that was carrying out
Speaker 2: hits on individuals.
Speaker 3: I mean it was supposed to be private citizens.
Speaker 2: There are implications that these were people, these were actually
Speaker 2: targeted assassinations on individuals with blackmail on this operation. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of where this ties in. So it I mean,
Speaker 2: we can just I get carried away with this story
Speaker 2: because you can go so many different ways, and it
Speaker 2: is like, I mean, like the even that the the
Speaker 2: the Westland New Post that literally was founded by an
Speaker 2: individual who supposedly he had connections to Alexander Haigu and
Speaker 2: was found It came out of the DIA, which is
Speaker 2: an American organization, so it's like.
Speaker 1: That's al hag Knight of Malta and these overlapped. So
Speaker 1: some of these names that you mentioned in the Pinon affair,
Speaker 1: the Americans wouldn't know these names, but Paul Land and
Speaker 1: boy Nons is involved in the affair and kind of
Speaker 1: is friends with hul So the original arrest in ninety six,
Speaker 1: there are like six people arrested, so it's not just
Speaker 1: dou True, it's Dutreu, his wife, Michelle Martin, michel Lelevreux. However,
Speaker 1: you see that French Houle and Bernard Weinstein, and then
Speaker 1: Dutroux goes on to kill Weinstein and bury him deep
Speaker 1: in his backyard.
Speaker 3: And there's the reasoning.
Speaker 2: His explanation for that was because he was upset that
Speaker 2: they let Julian Melissa starve to death.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I buy that.
Speaker 2: Do a fun little note too, there's something the realm
Speaker 2: of like twenty plus suspicious deaths and connection to the Dudereux.
Speaker 1: Affair suicides just masked murders all. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: off the charts, and it's very skilled stuff. This is
Speaker 1: like pro level deaths.
Speaker 2: Like and a lot of it's while he is in
Speaker 2: jail too, so you can't just say it was O Dutreux.
Speaker 2: He's clearly clicked into a network like these are people
Speaker 2: being killed carrying out targeted assassinations, Gladio. So it makes
Speaker 2: you wonder, I mean you brought up VDB Vanden Boynen's
Speaker 2: a second ago. I mean in the Penan affair, who
Speaker 2: actually know it wasn't he was King Albert. I believe
Speaker 2: him implicated in the Banana affair. He VDB may as well.
Speaker 2: But there's like a character most people have known, Like
Speaker 2: if you've ever watched the Gladio documentary, most people are
Speaker 2: probably that are kind of in the no that's seen
Speaker 2: the video of Michelle Leber, who was an individual who
Speaker 2: was part of Westland New Post and also a part
Speaker 2: of their navy. And there's another story where how they
Speaker 2: got NATO documents through Michelle Lebert. But anyways, beside the point,
Speaker 2: Michell Lebert also claims to have seen or seen I
Speaker 2: don't know if his photos or video of King Albert
Speaker 2: and Vanden Boyne's who was the former Prime minister of Belgium.
Speaker 2: I believe around most of the stuff he was the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister when with this stuff was kind of heated up.
Speaker 2: I forget the exact years he was, but he claimed
Speaker 2: to have seen them naked with with women and children
Speaker 2: naked with them as well, and have photos that, as
Speaker 2: did Niehul. Niehule claimed that he had photos. He claimed
Speaker 2: to a journalist that he could sell him photos of
Speaker 2: of King Albert of Belgium, you know, for a certain price,
Speaker 2: of him naked with children. And King Albert apparently is
Speaker 2: a fun fact. Apparently he's not able to be prosecuted
Speaker 2: because he's the king. That's literally how that works. I
Speaker 2: guess there's a cut up for him. He basically can
Speaker 2: do whatever. And there's a lot of people who theorize
Speaker 2: that's what got it thrown out because it's kind of
Speaker 2: a non starter. How do you even begin to approach
Speaker 2: a case that is involved that implicates the king.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of you can't. And so, you know,
Speaker 3: I think there's probably more to it than that, but
Speaker 3: I mean, the very you can, and you can stum
Speaker 3: it up. It's like, yeah, it went.
Speaker 2: All the way to the royal individuals that were in Belgium,
Speaker 2: and uh, which makes it it kind of it looks
Speaker 2: like Gladio was essentially being carried out by the elites
Speaker 2: up into including the royals, which I feel like that
Speaker 2: kind of adds a weird little element to it, especially
Speaker 2: when you understand that the generational aspect of these people
Speaker 2: and these problem people were kind of tied into the
Speaker 2: old world networks that kind of preceded World War Two
Speaker 2: to begin with anyway, So it was almost like a
Speaker 2: carrying on of whatever was going on before that, and
Speaker 2: it's that's them. So and I just find I find
Speaker 2: that I find all.
Speaker 3: This incredibly interesting, and I could I could just skize
Speaker 3: out on this forever.
Speaker 1: It's incredible, because it's that's why I'm saying this event
Speaker 1: do true was just a minimalization or a limited hangout
Speaker 1: or a narrowing of people's understanding, because it goes like
Speaker 1: you said to the king, to all of these aristocrats,
Speaker 1: this is what they do. They orgy on the weekends.
Speaker 1: This is how they blow off steam. They're not going
Speaker 1: over to the theater there been. They need people for
Speaker 1: these ordios. So Nie who Will, there's stories of him
Speaker 1: like a constant orgying but at club, sex parties, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, And niehu Will flat out said I've got
Speaker 1: I can never be prosecuted because I have information on everybody,
Speaker 1: Like so he was that kind of dark and their stories.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I just want to point out I just
Speaker 3: remember it. I just didn't want to let it go.
Speaker 2: I find this particularly interesting, especially if you think about
Speaker 2: this happened kind of around like mid nineties or early
Speaker 2: two thousands. Some of the stuff happened around the eighties
Speaker 2: as well. I find it particularly interesting, especially for those
Speaker 2: familiar with like characters like Seville, the role that Evil played. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a radio guy, like he was essentially, I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what particular role he filled with the radio,
Speaker 2: but he was throwing these parties at radio stations, which
Speaker 2: we think of that now. I feel like most people
Speaker 2: only think radio and you're like, well, it's almost so irrelevant.
Speaker 2: But you think about the time period when this is
Speaker 2: a I mean, it was literally kind of a I
Speaker 2: guess kind of at the end of the reign of
Speaker 2: radio during like the eighties and nineties two thousands, but
Speaker 2: it was still significant, and you got to think they
Speaker 2: were radio used to be king, especially in like a
Speaker 2: decade or two and more prior to that, And so
Speaker 2: I think there's something too, that this is where intelligence
Speaker 2: agencies and the like had really seated themselves, and so
Speaker 2: I think it makes sense that you might see things
Speaker 2: blossom out.
Speaker 1: I lost you. You just you just muted yourself. You
Speaker 1: muted yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just I'm back. Sorry, I accidentally hit
Speaker 3: my little USB thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean there's just all kinds
Speaker 1: of I mean, it's an enormous event. It's just like
Speaker 1: incredible and just like the same thing in the US
Speaker 1: where they don't get prosecuted, strange people die. I think
Speaker 1: Epstein was killed if you had to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It's off the charts with the Pinon affair. This other
Speaker 1: guy that people don't know, Paul Vanden Boyne's he's mentioned.
Speaker 1: We were talking in the pre show about Anna Lucas.
Speaker 1: She was one of his victim, was like very early
Speaker 1: from around the time of the Pinnon affairs. So she's
Speaker 1: she's content, She's before Dudreau. She's been on all these
Speaker 1: shows recently. We were talking Pet David. She's been on
Speaker 1: with the guy who did the Franklin cover up. I
Speaker 1: was trying to listen to that today, tried to get
Speaker 1: through that. But she mentioned that she had when she
Speaker 1: first wrote that book. I think it was Memoirs of
Speaker 1: a Child sex Slave. She didn't mention all the names.
Speaker 1: She used code words and stuff like that, so I
Speaker 1: think she had a code word for buynotts. But then
Speaker 1: she came out recently and then on Patrick pet to
Speaker 1: David she mentioned some of these other in affairous characters
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about David Rockefeller. Trudeau's dad, Pierre Trudeau, was
Speaker 1: involved in this, and she said all this other weird
Speaker 1: stuff about mind control, that she was literally like being
Speaker 1: trained at the German facility, that a lot of people
Speaker 1: wouldn't realize that she dissociated like classic stuff that happens kids,
Speaker 1: and she was raped like as a ten or eleven
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 2: That's Regina Loof described experiencing MK ultra type thing. She
Speaker 2: knew it should back up for the audience. I guess
Speaker 2: I'm kind of assume you guys knew Regina Loof is.
Speaker 2: Regina Loof is known as X one, which is I
Speaker 2: referenced the X Dossier's earlier. Essentially, what happened during the
Speaker 2: course of this At one point Conorant and uh, you know, Conrad,
Speaker 2: the presiding judge over this who actually was kind of
Speaker 2: seemed like kind of a good guy. He took over
Speaker 2: and actually opened an investigation. Really seemed to you know,
Speaker 2: he looks like he was actually responsible for when he
Speaker 2: ended up getting arrested.
Speaker 3: Conrad seemed to have a lot to do with that.
Speaker 3: After that one, you know, the follow up it.
Speaker 2: Seems to be where he got shit canned, and then
Speaker 2: that's when the cover up starts. He he got trashed
Speaker 2: because they found he went to a benefit dinner for
Speaker 2: the victims, and they saw that as a conflict of interest.
Speaker 2: That's that's actually that's actually what kicked off, if I
Speaker 2: if I'm if I recall correctly, the White March people
Speaker 2: were upset about conradt getting kicked off the case.
Speaker 3: Which that's actually I found out.
Speaker 2: That's not the first time there was one that I
Speaker 2: think was kind of tangentially connected before this to the
Speaker 2: Panan affair. I wish I had knew more specifics on this,
Speaker 2: but this isn't the first time Conrad got kicked off
Speaker 2: a case when the cover ups seemed to be coming in.
Speaker 3: So there was another one that somewhat was related.
Speaker 2: I want to say it was more in the realm
Speaker 2: of like the Augusta Fair, which was like a bribery
Speaker 2: scandal in relation to like military industrial complex type stuff,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people think that's what got Andre Cools. Anyways,
Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm rambling nine to come back to the
Speaker 2: X one, the X dot C the X dossia was
Speaker 2: when Conrad opened the investigation, he got the investigators to
Speaker 2: start looking into you know, all these people also looking
Speaker 2: for other people that have similar claims, really digging into stuff,
Speaker 2: and I believe we got in somewheer in the realm
Speaker 2: of like ten or more.
Speaker 3: They were Originally they were referenced as X.
Speaker 2: One, X two, X three, x four, and X one
Speaker 2: is probably the most notable one, and that's the one
Speaker 2: that we well people referred to as X one or
Speaker 2: Regina Loof. The xes were obviously intended for ananymity, but
Speaker 2: she actually essentially got docks the media, so you can,
Speaker 2: once again you can kind of see how this plays out,
Speaker 2: how the fix comes in. She got dogs by the media.
Speaker 2: So that's how we know over Regina Loof. The key
Speaker 2: thing about her is she was she spoke on the
Speaker 2: Christina van Heast death and she gave so many corroborating
Speaker 2: details if you look into it. I can, I've covered
Speaker 2: on the show, and I recommend people go look into it.
Speaker 1: Just just to be aware of the specific I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is.
Speaker 2: Christine van Hease was a death that of Regina Loof
Speaker 2: claimed and this is probably I think it's the best
Speaker 2: example of you know, it can back up her credibility
Speaker 2: of Regina Loof because there's odd little details as she
Speaker 2: remembers of Christina van Heaes died in a chapagnoniere is
Speaker 2: what they call her a mushroom farm, as I guess
Speaker 2: what that means, and it was like a you know,
Speaker 2: disused no like no longer in use, mushroom farm. That
Speaker 2: supposedly Regina Loof said that while she was in the
Speaker 2: midst of this, I want to say, she said De
Speaker 2: trou and Niehul brought her I might have that wrong,
Speaker 2: but brought them to the mushroom farm and they essentially
Speaker 2: did raped them and ended up killing killing her, killing
Speaker 2: Christine vanhee and kind of blaming it on Regina, which
Speaker 2: is kind of what the mind games they play. She corroborated,
Speaker 2: you know, went through so many different details. The house
Speaker 2: actually got burned down, like they murdered Christine vanhes They
Speaker 2: burned the house down and then there was an anonymous
Speaker 2: call reporting the fire, and then that's when people they
Speaker 2: discover Christine Vanhees's body. I do find it interesting for
Speaker 2: those who watch True Detective that kind of is basically
Speaker 2: almost the opening scene of True Detective. You know, a
Speaker 2: fire gets an anonymous report. Now people are aware of
Speaker 2: the ritual, The ritual becomes a public thing almost the
Speaker 2: implication being maybe that was meant to be the case,
Speaker 2: which because in this one that the anonymous call was bizarre. Anyways,
Speaker 2: that's the best thing to kind of back up her
Speaker 2: credibility because she actually was known for having DID or
Speaker 2: MPD depending on what you call it.
Speaker 3: I want to call it the.
Speaker 2: Socio of identity or multiple personality disorder. And this was,
Speaker 2: you know, likely from her timeild trafficking network. And during
Speaker 2: this time she claimed that her pimp, once he started
Speaker 2: noticing these altars or these different you know, personalities, that
Speaker 2: she claims that he groomed them, that he he intensified
Speaker 2: and I want to say one of them was called
Speaker 2: like something like the Horror and so the idea and
Speaker 2: I think it kind of gives a conceptual idea of
Speaker 2: how how d ID can present itself or the multiple
Speaker 2: or alters or whatever, because it makes sense if you
Speaker 2: think of it from a child's perspective. We all need
Speaker 2: love in this world, especially children, and they need it
Speaker 2: so much. So now it makes sense that you would
Speaker 2: create different altars, like because in her case, she had
Speaker 2: like one was like the whore, one that was more
Speaker 2: of like a daughterly type of uh you know, altar
Speaker 2: to to her pimp. And there was one, there were
Speaker 2: there were some other ones as well, but the idea
Speaker 2: was just filling different roles, and so when she was
Speaker 2: the horror, she was the hoore.
Speaker 3: Like, so that was what she was about.
Speaker 2: Whereas but then she would flip a switch and just
Speaker 2: be like a almost like a like a daughter to
Speaker 2: her pimp later and he would almost be like a father.
Speaker 3: So, I I mean, I've never.
Speaker 2: Looked into enough to know if this is a case,
Speaker 2: but it makes me think of the generational aspect of
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3: And maybe he was the whore at one point, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean that's obviously it's incredible speculation, but I just
Speaker 2: think there's something to think about about hurt people. Hurt
Speaker 2: people in here and the idea that, like, what how
Speaker 2: does these alters work? Like if someone is the whore
Speaker 2: at one point in their young life, what are they
Speaker 2: going to be when they are an adult, likely probably
Speaker 2: plugged into this network and maybe filling some sort of
Speaker 2: role as the whore, and then you know, maybe they
Speaker 2: need love too, and then they're now they have this
Speaker 2: fatherly daughter relationship. Supposedly, there are claims that Dutreux was
Speaker 2: extremely upset about the deaths of Julie Melissa and supposedly
Speaker 2: was trying to protect them. I don't know what to degree.
Speaker 2: I believe them, but I mean, if you do think
Speaker 2: about the possibility of alters being introduced in this, it's
Speaker 2: not that crazy because I mean I do struggle to
Speaker 2: even buy not by to underwrap my head around the
Speaker 2: depravity of these acts, and it is almost like it's
Speaker 2: almost like even to be someone to perpetrate it. It's
Speaker 2: almost like you need an altar, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not the first couple of times, but
Speaker 2: after a while, I just feel like, you know, you've
Speaker 2: got to dissociate, Like how do you do that to
Speaker 2: someone without while being present in the moment? I don't know,
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit of a rambling, but I
Speaker 2: just I just thought that was an interesting side tangent
Speaker 2: in the aspect of that. There clearly was, you know,
Speaker 2: some there seems to be, you know, according to claims,
Speaker 2: some sort of element of you know, pushing altars on
Speaker 2: these people, trying to groom certain behaviors.
Speaker 3: So it's real, it's real.
Speaker 1: That's what Anaka and Lucas said her, you know, and
Speaker 1: Lucas not a real name. But like in the other
Speaker 1: real perverse thing is some of these kids get into
Speaker 1: it because of their parents. Her mother took her into
Speaker 1: the network that is sick, like whoa into this incredible abuse,
Speaker 1: and she corroborates all this stuff violence, murder, torture.
Speaker 2: Her parents admitted that her pimp had access to her,
Speaker 2: and then people in the media played dumb that they
Speaker 2: didn't know that the pimp admitted to it.
Speaker 3: That he he was they believe that he molicted her.
Speaker 2: So and still I just think it was just something
Speaker 2: that was never really picked up on, and she was
Speaker 2: looked at as a loon because she had all these
Speaker 2: you know, personality disorders and stuff, which was a common
Speaker 2: through It's a common trope anytime we do these child
Speaker 2: driving networks. You see these damaged people that come forward
Speaker 2: with claims and then people point out they're damage. You
Speaker 2: shouldn't listen to them, and they go, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: their damage. Shouldn't listen to them, and they move on.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't know, maybe that might damage people.
Speaker 1: It's the corroboration. I think Ana Lucas has corroborations for
Speaker 1: deaths and people's names and all these other characters. She
Speaker 1: was associated with. The guy who was very well known
Speaker 1: in Belgian Belgian criminal but associated with those murders you
Speaker 1: were talking.
Speaker 3: About the Bbon killing killing.
Speaker 1: No, his name is Patrick Hey Nams. Like some of
Speaker 1: the names are hard for me to remember. It's in
Speaker 1: my notes his names. See here's a picture of bandon
Speaker 1: boynots the Czirk right. This guy's heavily involved in all
Speaker 1: kinds of secretive stuff. But he's a total perb man,
Speaker 1: total nut job. This is. But the guy's name is not.
Speaker 1: It's uh, that's Anaca Lucas question. But her Patrick, this
Speaker 1: is one of the people who died Peter Boseman's Uh.
Speaker 1: I think I have a picture of him somewhere. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I can find it. There's, like you said,
Speaker 1: you can go down so many different paths.
Speaker 4: On this thing.
Speaker 3: This while we're kind of on the oh, this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Heimer's Heimer's h I don't think there was
Speaker 1: like a trial of the century that he he abduct
Speaker 1: He and his crew abducted this guy Paul Vandenboy. So
Speaker 1: this is like all connected to this crazy network. There's
Speaker 1: so many crimes and strange things going on that is just.
Speaker 2: It's solely the Spider Man meme there pointing at each
Speaker 2: other because yeah, VDB, I mean that the interesting thing
Speaker 2: about him, he's a former prime minister. He is a
Speaker 2: he's I think kind of basically the figurehead or maybe
Speaker 2: the actual leader of the sepiks ep I see, which
Speaker 2: was his political party, which was something like that essentially
Speaker 2: like a socialist, Christian or something party. I think is
Speaker 2: the is the gist of it. But that's what spurned
Speaker 2: off the Nevelle de Janus, which was like a publishing
Speaker 2: thing that they know financed through there, and then off
Speaker 2: of that came the w NP that was born out
Speaker 2: of that cells started forming out of it. That was
Speaker 2: the Westland New Post. It was the ones who carried
Speaker 2: out the barbant killings and that's h so that this
Speaker 2: seems to have this direct connection I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: in a kind of a roundabout way, but not really
Speaker 2: to to VDP in the sense of Sepick the political
Speaker 2: party and how it ties in, I mean the same thing.
Speaker 2: I believe Niehul had connections with Sepick as well. So yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we didn't even I don't think we talked
Speaker 2: about bond Voi in either. That was will be a
Speaker 2: good one to look at a picture of too, if
Speaker 2: you have picture him. That guy is a complete ghoul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget his role.
Speaker 2: I think he played more of like a finance. That's
Speaker 2: kind of the role that connects it to like Gladio
Speaker 2: and stuff. If you look at him, you see the
Speaker 2: circle there. And Opus Stay plays a big part in
Speaker 2: this stuff too.
Speaker 1: Like they called them Open Stay orgies too, which is
Speaker 1: really crazy because that's supposed to be like Christian organization.
Speaker 1: Like we're having child sex orgies with Opus Stay members. Adam,
Speaker 1: make this make sense? Yes, you mentioned al Hate too
Speaker 1: because he's heavily involved in stuff. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I can find a picture of poisons. Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the guy. She Ana Lucas had a you know,
Speaker 1: real close relationship with this guy. And this guy's talking
Speaker 1: about murdering people. He never got busted for murder. So
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stuff this guy did, according to
Speaker 1: Anika that didn't say. And then he died, of course,
Speaker 1: suicide in prison. Who else died? I supposed to suicide
Speaker 1: in prison? But I mean there it is so crazy
Speaker 1: and chaotic these guys' lives. You can't even believe that
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Neiehul ended up only getting I want
Speaker 2: to say, it's like five years. I believe of air
Speaker 2: call correctly, and it was for drugs, and I believe
Speaker 2: that was the charge for actually supplying drugs to.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was either to Li Laerv or it
Speaker 2: was to to uh to de trou himself. I forget which,
Speaker 2: but either way, I mean I found that interesting too,
Speaker 2: because that does the idea of the drugs. It clearly
Speaker 2: looks like a form of payment, which that is kind
Speaker 2: of one thing we kick around when we talk about
Speaker 2: Gladio or these sort of networks is like how are
Speaker 2: they financed their finance through through drugs or because you
Speaker 2: don't just give people cash because it's like now you
Speaker 2: gotta you know, you gotta figure out how you loaned.
Speaker 2: It's sometimes you just go drugs and then that that
Speaker 2: kind of kind of cut that, uh, I know, I
Speaker 2: just find that particularly interesting also because that the charge
Speaker 2: itself kind of establishes the connection to Tou Trou. A
Speaker 2: lot of people try to, you know, say they weren't connected,
Speaker 2: although he was his handyman like substantially before all of this,
Speaker 2: so mean as well established he was connected with Kniehole.
Speaker 2: If anything, the only real question is at what point
Speaker 2: did he really become connected with Kneehole Because he's been
Speaker 2: carrying out He's been carrying out for quite a long time,
Speaker 2: these sorts of things.
Speaker 3: Even before his eighty nine arrests.
Speaker 2: There was a there's implications that he had been carrying
Speaker 2: out similar such things for quite a while. There was
Speaker 2: I believe he did some stint in a Polish jail
Speaker 2: as well, and you know, there were other claims of him,
Speaker 2: you know, roving around different country area, different countries and
Speaker 2: you know, picking up girls and them magically disappearing type deal.
Speaker 1: So right, disappearing like he was busted for like ten rapes.
Speaker 1: So he's probably at ten more at least, you know,
Speaker 1: at least just what he got connected to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he you know, for those who say snuff
Speaker 2: isn't a thing, well, I guess maybe this won't be
Speaker 2: fair to say stuff he did say. I guess that
Speaker 2: wouldn't be stuff because he's only saying he's raping them
Speaker 2: and video him. He was also he initially, you know,
Speaker 2: claimed he wasn't a pedophile. I think he might even
Speaker 2: have sort of stuck with that, But then it was
Speaker 2: kind of the idea that like, oh, then I realized
Speaker 2: I could make more money if I video them and
Speaker 2: rape them, as opposed to just waiting to procure them
Speaker 2: for you know, whoever wants them. I can get additional money.
Speaker 2: So it just find that you think that, you know,
Speaker 2: they're the the video aspect of it, even at his
Speaker 2: low level, he was doing it. And then he was
Speaker 2: taking these girls and then slinging them to Kneehole's network.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 1: Ye see, she knew niehol annaka Lucas knows me whole.
Speaker 1: And she literally said in this talk or one of
Speaker 1: these other talks, she thought she was being groomed for
Speaker 1: a sacrifice. In nineteen seventy two, at the builderbug Berg group.
Speaker 1: So all this stuff overlaps the Cirque Builderberg, Malta Opus
Speaker 1: Day Child Trapping. It's so dark, like it's just off
Speaker 1: the charts. But here's she I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: cover of a book annaka Lucas and it's weird Rockefeller things.
Speaker 1: And this is a picture supposedly the sex club they
Speaker 1: had and Brussels were alive.
Speaker 3: The Dolo. Yeah yeah, the Dol yeah mm hm.
Speaker 1: So if you're in Brussels you can go by and
Speaker 1: see the low lights of all this stuff. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this also ties into this a braxis we're talking the
Speaker 1: pre show the backs is called is Real. It's actually real,
Speaker 1: I wrote back when I was researched. Like one of
Speaker 1: the first shows I ever did on my podcast twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen was about du trou and I had a lady's
Speaker 1: name I can't remember from Brussels talking about it, but
Speaker 1: I investigated kind of the practis cult and they do exist,
Speaker 1: like and they used to have their books. The person
Speaker 1: who was part of it used to have their book online.
Speaker 1: There were two people they're investigated. And then once that
Speaker 1: investigation started, like oh boom, the whole thing's gone connor
Speaker 1: Rot's gone. You know, we have to come up with excuse.
Speaker 1: There's Francis des Met and Dominique Kinderman's who had fake
Speaker 1: names grand Miitra and Ubis. And then there was a
Speaker 1: tie because they found something at Dutrou's place to Annubis. Right,
Speaker 1: So there was a cult stuff and these some of
Speaker 1: these parties were Satanic parties.
Speaker 2: Nihil's wife was a member of the church, I guess allegedly,
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe she handled the finances. There's stories
Speaker 2: that went around that apparently she was saying to Nigerian
Speaker 2: immigrants that she would help stabilize their situation at which
Speaker 2: I believes get them jobs or stuff, you know, when
Speaker 2: they immigrate. Apparently there were all sorts of I guess
Speaker 2: reports that they were, you know, essentially is taking the
Speaker 2: money and not providing any sort of services for them whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I think it's also notable that in that area where
Speaker 2: this is occurring, it's a pretty notable spot for prostitution,
Speaker 2: and it was it was quite common for people to
Speaker 2: note that the night there was a lot of Nigerian
Speaker 2: women and they a lot of them looked very, very
Speaker 2: very young, which I find it interesting that anti booty
Speaker 2: the wife of Michelle nee Huole, probably the one of
Speaker 2: the country's most prolific sex traffickers. Is you know, soliciting
Speaker 2: Nigerian immigrants when they have a Nigerian child prostitution problem.
Speaker 3: So I just find that particularly interesting. That's that's the
Speaker 3: thing there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I also we were talking before, I guess
Speaker 2: that Brassics is also called the Celestial Church of Christ,
Speaker 2: which I found that interesting, Like is that like, perhaps
Speaker 2: i'd be interesting if you know, if anyone out there,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you were aware of a copy of
Speaker 2: their philosophy or books or whatever, because I just I'd
Speaker 2: be curious what their belief system is, because it makes
Speaker 2: me think of some like processed church type stuff, some
Speaker 2: like as above so below like oh we worship Satan
Speaker 2: and God type thing like. That's that's kind of the
Speaker 2: impression that gave me that or it was either just
Speaker 2: like clever ruse to be able to get like things
Speaker 2: like Nigerian immigrants who might be familiar with things like
Speaker 2: the church and their country to be like, oh Christ, okay,
Speaker 2: that sounds familiar, and maybe be more receptive. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, I just if anyone has a copy of
Speaker 2: their books out there, I'd be super interested because I just.
Speaker 3: I'm what the hell are these people's their philosophy?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: Because for those who an't aware, a Praxis is a
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a brass taxe, but it's a
Speaker 2: Braxis is like a gnostic god of some sort. I
Speaker 2: believe he's also like yeah, yeah, and he's supposed to
Speaker 2: be like a really high level when I forget the
Speaker 2: specifics of him, but U yeah, it's weird. The the
Speaker 2: occult elements here, which I mean it heavily implies.
Speaker 3: I don't know particularly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are claims of SRA type stuff,
Speaker 2: but I don't recall any off hand. This definitely is
Speaker 2: one of the ones that heavily implies that I think.
Speaker 2: I want to say that Christine van Hes makes me
Speaker 2: think of that type stuff too, But it's hard to
Speaker 2: be able to parse out when it's just sadism or
Speaker 2: if there's some sort of actual SRA, you know, Satanic
Speaker 2: ritual type stuff going on, because sadism went hand in
Speaker 2: hand from you know, the reports I've read when it
Speaker 2: came to this trafficking ring.
Speaker 3: It was very much they had like S and M
Speaker 3: rooms when it came to children.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was just disgusting stuff. I mean, one of the
Speaker 2: one of the key factors that uh the I mean,
Speaker 2: what is it a I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: get you nuked or anything. I guess we're on YouTube, but.
Speaker 1: I'm not one. I don't. I don't stream anymore good.
Speaker 2: But I mean there was even I believe X One
Speaker 2: herself claimed that when she was giving birth, they pulled
Speaker 2: her aside and raped her like basically either mid or
Speaker 2: post berth, like basically ray the moment of birth. Uh
Speaker 2: you know, they essentially raped her during that period of
Speaker 2: time and then took her babies something like a month later.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: They're also like they just the degree of the I mean,
Speaker 2: there are claims that they were to believe it was booty.
Speaker 2: It would would supposedly go around these sex parties and
Speaker 2: would use snakes to sodomize people, and supposedly they would
Speaker 2: put kids in.
Speaker 3: Cages and you know, with dogs.
Speaker 2: There's also claims that put the hunts that we always
Speaker 2: hear about with things like North Fox Island and this, like,
Speaker 2: where they would take children and put them on hunts
Speaker 2: and woods.
Speaker 3: That castle you showed before, I believe that might was
Speaker 3: one of the areas.
Speaker 2: I think they were carrying those out because there's some
Speaker 2: sort of large woods near them, or I think there
Speaker 2: were multiple castles though, so it's kind of I.
Speaker 1: Think what was the what was the one castle they
Speaker 1: talked about the Queen of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's hard to
Speaker 3: remember all these weird.
Speaker 1: Or something like that, A thousand points of light, all
Speaker 1: this crazy inside knowledge type stuff. But yeah, it gets
Speaker 1: really crazy and sick. It does tie in, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, to Balenciaga, this whole Balenciaga stand right. So
Speaker 1: this is when people discovered these little being pictured in
Speaker 1: Balenciaga's kind of stuff. There was a book on there
Speaker 1: like Horseman's, who is a Belgian are quote artist, but
Speaker 1: his pictures are all this stuff, the hunts for the kids,
Speaker 1: satanic rituals, dismemberment. It's so grotesque, but it actually validates
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff that's going on in Belgium
Speaker 1: and Brussels, like the Guys of Belgian Arthur, which is
Speaker 1: like some of the darkest stuff imaginal. People cannot believe
Speaker 1: this stuff really exists or happens, and that's really what
Speaker 1: keeps it kind of coming to light, but actually the
Speaker 1: Conor Rots thing of the Dutro corner Rot went to
Speaker 1: it was on December. This was actually reported in the
Speaker 1: Irish Times December twenty first, nineteen ninety six, same same
Speaker 1: time Dutroux was arrested one hundred and fifty police. This
Speaker 1: is probably totally covered up. One hundred and fifty police
Speaker 1: officers rated a Bracxis's headquarters, seizing ritual items, human skulls,
Speaker 1: animal blood, jars and hundreds of videos and documents, all missing.
Speaker 1: The raid ordered by Judge John Mark Conrat, who was
Speaker 1: taken off. We talked about that in New Chateau. Aimed
Speaker 1: to uncover evidence tying Abrasis to Detroit's crimes, including rumors
Speaker 1: of child trafficking for satanic rituals. Media outlined outlets as
Speaker 1: RTBF and Irish Times reported vividly on the operation, amplifying
Speaker 1: public fears. Despite the dramatic raid, no concrete evidence emerged.
Speaker 1: The confiscated ISNs were considered with consistent with the cult practices.
Speaker 1: There was a letter Annibis letter to Weinstein who got killed,
Speaker 1: and then Conrad was removed from the case. Dutro's defense
Speaker 1: lawyer Javier Magney later revived the Satanic angle during the
Speaker 1: two thousand and four trial, alleging a broader pedophile network
Speaker 1: with ties to cult selective praxis. Prosecutors dismissed these as
Speaker 1: baseless X file testimonies. Further mother Muddy and Waters with
Speaker 1: claims of Satanic rituals, but these two failed to tie
Speaker 1: a practice specifically.
Speaker 2: To weirdly reminds me of a Epsteine Again. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know we don't have a strong connections to like
Speaker 2: Satanism and stuff, but I mean, if I don't know
Speaker 2: anyone with a cult minded you know, you know, inclination
Speaker 2: like we kind of do. You look at a you
Speaker 2: look at a Epsteine's island, the little temple and stuff
Speaker 2: that like, and yeah, you can start to and then
Speaker 2: you add in some of.
Speaker 3: The weird things he was doing, Yeah, the breeding camps
Speaker 3: and such. You're like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2: I think there are elements were missing, especially since even
Speaker 2: now this I feel like typically in the mainstream this
Speaker 2: is you know, commonly colored as like oh like pederasty
Speaker 2: as opposed to or or you know, or or some
Speaker 2: of these really been eighteen nineteen, which that is the
Speaker 2: thing there, there definitely were women in the young adult
Speaker 2: to teen range. Dum me wrong, it's not okay to
Speaker 2: break teens. What I'm saying, it's obviously a different thing
Speaker 2: than like you know, uh, you know, actual than pedophilia, pederasty.
Speaker 2: They're both awful, but you know, their differences of degrees.
Speaker 2: This is typically colored. So a lot of people look
Speaker 2: at this like oh, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year olds and
Speaker 2: these rich fams like no, I mean, yeah, there definitely
Speaker 2: was some of that, but you know, there, I think
Speaker 2: there were I think we're probably not We're not privy
Speaker 2: to a lot of the details that come to younger
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there are official details out there
Speaker 2: about younger ones, but I really feel like there's probably
Speaker 2: a lot of information out there that we we I
Speaker 2: mean I was almost said that I don't think we'd
Speaker 2: get this sort of information, but now I think about
Speaker 2: this would be the sort of stuff that would leak
Speaker 2: like kind of on the sly and then they try
Speaker 2: to color it as like satanic panic type stuff.
Speaker 1: So you know exactly what some of these articles said,
Speaker 1: this whole investigation into a practice is part of the
Speaker 1: Satanic panic. Yeah, so I could totally seem'd be trafficking
Speaker 1: and killing kids. So I panicked too. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: I told you in the pre show, I went my research.
Speaker 1: When I was researching this five years ago, I haven't
Speaker 1: in my old files. This woman who is part of
Speaker 1: a praxice. She published books on Amazon. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's still out there, but I have that and
Speaker 1: she's like a full on witch. So you've got Weinstein.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you've got Ni Hoole's wife is like in
Speaker 1: the Dehicle, and then that's connected to these other purpose.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have this kind of evil
Speaker 1: mind to do this evil stuff, and they Satanist is
Speaker 1: like the primary people who do this evil things. Traffic kids, abuse, kids, sick.
Speaker 2: I mean, And as I said before, I think I
Speaker 2: think there's something to the fact that there's so much
Speaker 2: of a royal contingent here, and I think there's like
Speaker 2: it because, as I've kind of point, you got to
Speaker 2: be messed up. You got to be messed up to
Speaker 2: do this sort I think you hurt people, hurt people,
Speaker 2: And there's this generational thing. What is going on with
Speaker 2: these elites? What are they doing? Like, how are these
Speaker 2: people being raised I mean, we see so commonly there
Speaker 2: is this generational aspect of intel or elites, and it's
Speaker 2: obviously when it comes to the royalty, but it's like,
Speaker 2: what's going on in these families?
Speaker 3: How are these people raised?
Speaker 2: Anyone who looked at the dynamics of like Rockefellers and
Speaker 2: how they raise And there's also lots of weird quotes
Speaker 2: about like new incests and you know, all sorts of weirdness,
Speaker 2: you know, and how these interact with the public.
Speaker 3: You're like, these people.
Speaker 2: Don't even like they they the way the normal human
Speaker 2: experience is so bizarre to them. They can't even wrap
Speaker 2: their head around it. And so like what are these
Speaker 2: people doing? And then on the other side, like he's
Speaker 2: gonna be able to show a little bit sympathy to them.
Speaker 2: How were they raised? What kind of awful trauma did
Speaker 2: they deal with? Where they did they see awful things happen?
Speaker 2: And but then they were told they're the special ones
Speaker 2: because they get to survive, Like what is going on?
Speaker 3: Like, what is happening with these people? I'm those are
Speaker 3: the files I want.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear of the case of DuPont, one
Speaker 1: of the heirs of the DuPont family in Delaware where
Speaker 1: Biden is the former fun or something like that.
Speaker 2: I've heard little bits and pieces of that. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was like either or not Hunter, the other Biden brother bo.
Speaker 1: Right, No, but this DuPont air, you can look this up.
Speaker 1: It should be online. Still. I think he was raping
Speaker 1: his infant daughter and he got tried, he got convicted,
Speaker 1: but the judge said he just wouldn't handle jail very well,
Speaker 1: so we're going to put him on five years for
Speaker 1: a patient. It is so sick. So this guy was
Speaker 1: definitely subjecting his kids to like the most dark crap.
Speaker 1: But it's real, like I can, I'll look it up
Speaker 1: right now. But this is from the X files. These
Speaker 1: are all the names of these people from the Mozart
Speaker 1: and Pinon Pink ballet affairs. Doctors landed a state baron
Speaker 1: King King Charles, Prince Charles King Badoing, King Aubert Second
Speaker 1: Prince lunch account. It's the entire I'm telling you. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, Like dutrou is just like a
Speaker 1: smaller view, the wide angle lens, is that this is
Speaker 1: a cultural thing that's happening in Belgium, much like Epstein.
Speaker 1: So you have to see all Count Lippin's, Count Maurice,
Speaker 1: Count be Apol.
Speaker 3: It's like a tale of two worlds, like what these
Speaker 3: guys are in like a whole new other world.
Speaker 2: Like this is normal to them, Like this is just
Speaker 2: something they do amongst themselves, like they see this as normal.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was something I was reading with a
Speaker 2: kind of like the idea of this sort of blackmail
Speaker 2: is that just people, people get comforted into this is
Speaker 2: just normal, that this is just what we do. And
Speaker 2: the next thing, you know, there's a picture and you go, Okay,
Speaker 2: I guess I gotta deal with this. But this is
Speaker 2: just this is normalcy for them, this is what they do.
Speaker 2: And as you see all these names, it is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: these people are of a certain pedic.
Speaker 3: So it's a yeah, and above the law.
Speaker 1: Right, So you said the king was above the law.
Speaker 1: He couldn't be tried. He is the heir of King
Speaker 1: Leopold the Second, the butcher of the Congo, who killed
Speaker 1: like millions and millions of people in the Congo. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever heard that story, but like
Speaker 1: butchered millions of people for rubber and took and just
Speaker 1: like took all the money out of the Congo. But
Speaker 1: also related to Sacks, Coburg, goat that this famous kind
Speaker 1: of names, Princess Napoleon, Duke of Brabant. These are all these.
Speaker 1: I mean that the royal family of what's a so
Speaker 1: called Windsors were only recently called the Windsors after World
Speaker 1: War One. They are Sacks, Coburg, Gothas. So all. So
Speaker 1: if you like, you see all this crazy stuff going
Speaker 1: off with Epstein in the Royal family of England, it's
Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff. You can draw these analog
Speaker 1: you can draw these similarities. This is not a stretch, I.
Speaker 3: Agree, yeah, And it's not a stretch at all.
Speaker 2: These are yeah, I mean, yeah, there's something that's something
Speaker 2: going on among the elite.
Speaker 1: And I find it concerning the landed aristocracy and it
Speaker 1: kind of it ties into Crooley's kind of outlook, the
Speaker 1: aristocratic outlook, which is the slave cell. Show sure are
Speaker 1: lesser than us and we're going to prove it by true.
Speaker 2: And I find it particularly grosser that the cause, like
Speaker 2: I always like to, you know, focus on how this
Speaker 2: comes back to Gladio. It's like, if you think about
Speaker 2: what this is, this is like a worldwide network that
Speaker 2: this is like we're looking at somewhere near the top
Speaker 2: here and this is uh, you know, these are people
Speaker 2: that are carrying out likely false flag attacks all over
Speaker 2: the world. And to uphold it, they are literally taking
Speaker 2: children from around the world, raping them, exploiting the photos
Speaker 2: from them, the photos and videos from it, to get
Speaker 2: their way. And this is just how things are done.
Speaker 2: And this is done on our back. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people hear about something the New trou affair
Speaker 2: and you're like, why should I care about this thing
Speaker 2: that happened in Belgium? Really, because if you extrapolate from
Speaker 2: this and think about this is this is like the
Speaker 2: octopus of global control ape shit right here. This is like,
Speaker 2: this is like these are those that rule above you,
Speaker 2: and this is what they're doing. This is how what
Speaker 2: they think of you. You are disposable. You and your
Speaker 2: children are disposable. They will take your kids, they will
Speaker 2: rape them, and they will have a smile on their
Speaker 2: face while doing it, and they will they will take
Speaker 2: videos of it and use it to advance their agenda
Speaker 2: like this is just it's it's a and then they
Speaker 2: will kill they will conduct you, you know, false flag
Speaker 2: attacks and kill people in cold blood and blame it
Speaker 2: on whatever entity they need to blame on for whatever
Speaker 2: given political situation they're in at the time. And this
Speaker 2: is all off of our backs, stolen from you via
Speaker 2: taxes in order to fund it. Like all of this
Speaker 2: is off you are fleeced for this. This is all
Speaker 2: off of your back, and it's the most disgusting thing
Speaker 2: you really could imagine.
Speaker 1: It's incredible when you think, like this whole USA thing,
Speaker 1: like how much of that money went to terrorism? We
Speaker 1: know it's gone to terrorism worldwide, but how much goes
Speaker 1: like we know it went to propaganda as well, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's just increable by how much went to like murders,
Speaker 1: raping kids, raping kids, Like who knows, We don't know.
Speaker 1: They know they have names that go somewhere. They don't
Speaker 1: know where the money went. So all these guys had
Speaker 1: these slush funds, all these people you see on TV,
Speaker 1: and it's through their real not all of them, but
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Their relatives are getting NGO money
Speaker 1: from I mean even they even proved that our vaunted president,
Speaker 1: the Saint Obama, who decided he was going to get
Speaker 1: two million bucks and just free money from one of
Speaker 1: these NGOs for doing Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Like wasn't wasn't Epstein getting some sort of like doing
Speaker 2: some sort of weird lottery scams to advance money or something.
Speaker 2: I vaguely recall something like that. I just I find
Speaker 2: an interesting you kind of brought up. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier Dutrou had all this money and stuff,
Speaker 2: but then you see other characters, like there's an individual
Speaker 2: you know, kind of more in relation to the Brabant killings,
Speaker 2: but you can kind of loosely tie him into this,
Speaker 2: you know, du trou stuff as well. But he ended
Speaker 2: up in Thailand years later, he got fired from the
Speaker 2: Gendarmerie the military police, and he ended up you know,
Speaker 2: taking up a PI with another suspect in the Brabant
Speaker 2: killings bohoosh, and he uh he ended up actually getting
Speaker 2: busted for killing someone later. But anyways, he later, you know,
Speaker 2: just recently a couple of years ago, got arrested in
Speaker 2: Thailand and he had something ridiculous like six plus things.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who got fired as a cop
Speaker 2: a long time ago, was unsuccessful PI that then went on.
Speaker 3: To get arrested. You know, so he's had illegal trouble.
Speaker 2: So you shouldn't have a ton of money, but yeah,
Speaker 2: he's seeming to live like a like a well to
Speaker 2: do individual in Thailand. He gets arrested because it's visas expired,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, I mean it's just bizarre. This guy
Speaker 2: is the hobnobbing over there. He's an ex cop like
Speaker 2: who got fired before even got to a pension. So like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to know how high he got.
Speaker 2: This guy's hobnobbing around with like literal with royalty in Thailand,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if it's a king or an emperor,
Speaker 2: like the sister of the emperor king or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell it is there, like this is this is Baijir.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it's nuts when you look
Speaker 2: into the people and you're like, so it is like
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder where is this money coming from?
Speaker 2: And I think it's likely that they probably find ways
Speaker 2: to slush money from government means of some sort this
Speaker 2: scam or that scam, this NGO, that ngo, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: this is where this money goes from. And they're they're
Speaker 2: all about yeah, so these people need they have to
Speaker 2: get rewarded or else the network will get exploited. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they take exorbitant amounts of your money and in order
Speaker 2: to support these absolute monsters being able to you know,
Speaker 2: live live live an extremely comfortable life after the awful
Speaker 2: things they did.
Speaker 1: It's incredible they have created. This is truly the revelation
Speaker 1: of like the BT system. It's off the charts and
Speaker 1: all these bombs, like Soros took two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars from NGOs, then fixed all of the prosecutors
Speaker 1: and all the major cities in the US, and then
Speaker 1: they don't prosecute crimes, and all the cities just turn
Speaker 1: it their fourth world crapples. They're not their world. They
Speaker 1: turned first like San Francisco's my hometown. They turn that
Speaker 1: place into a disaster. It looks like Mad Max. I
Speaker 1: probably better than Mad Max. There's like hits. People walk
Speaker 1: up on random people and blow their heads up. It
Speaker 1: never gets any press or anything. So this whole network,
Speaker 1: it's the press and the prosecutors all get tied back
Speaker 1: to this dirty money and guys are probably trafficking kids.
Speaker 1: They open the borders. Where are all those kids? I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's kids missing. There's so many arrests that
Speaker 1: have to happen. These people that I mean, this is
Speaker 1: an example, are today. If this Epstein rollout. These guys
Speaker 1: are not ready and not capable for the immense criminality
Speaker 1: that's taking place. They're pipers. They should be hiring thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands of people because they have to arrest fifty
Speaker 1: or one hundred thousand if we're gonna stay free. It's
Speaker 1: that simple. Because they have all this money they've stolen
Speaker 1: and taken from these NGOs and usaid, they're money rich.
Speaker 1: They're gonna just keep perpetrating their own crimes. This is
Speaker 1: way too advanced for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll just find something else to do, like we
Speaker 2: were talking about like, actually, we weren't talking about it.
Speaker 3: Recently.
Speaker 2: There was a talks about the CIA firings, like well,
Speaker 2: how is this going to work? I mean likely those
Speaker 2: guys like yeah, they might get fired, but I have
Speaker 2: a feeling a lot of those will probably end up well,
Speaker 2: oh wow, that's weird. I'm starting this private private business now,
Speaker 2: aren't I I've.
Speaker 1: Already doing it.
Speaker 4: They're already shaping themselves into NGOs or independent uh you know,
Speaker 4: socially beneficial type things or nonprofits or something.
Speaker 1: So it's already happening and still keeping up there. Like,
Speaker 1: I bet there's non profits out there that are doing
Speaker 1: stuff like Doo Troe that people would just like be
Speaker 1: shocked to find. They're not ready for it. The government
Speaker 1: Trump and these people aren't ready to handle the level
Speaker 1: of criminality. They's stole billions and hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's this guy.
Speaker 1: Down the road. That's Weinstein too, right on the bottom,
Speaker 1: second from the right. That's why the guy got killed.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, who's the.
Speaker 1: Other guy you were trying to get me to find
Speaker 1: a picture of.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a guy in the very left, in the middle.
Speaker 2: That's actually a more dignified photo of him. The guy
Speaker 2: in the very very middle, the little photo there that's
Speaker 2: Bond boys, And I think he's fair concer. He's more
Speaker 2: kind of like the Honey connection. But he Yeah, you
Speaker 2: look at him and he's a he is a ghoul.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is a This is like that's the
Speaker 1: whole thing about this du Troe affair. It's like a
Speaker 1: sociological study. It's not just one crime. It's like they're
Speaker 1: all these people involved. There's victims and perpetrators and it's
Speaker 1: the whole society's corrupt, prodden to the very top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where can people find yourself worth
Speaker 1: the hour mark or tell tell people a little bit
Speaker 1: about your show, what you've been up to, and where they.
Speaker 4: Can find you.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I have the nowe Jose podcast. I'm on
Speaker 3: YouTube rumble all the major A pockets as well. I
Speaker 3: mean I do.
Speaker 2: I do like a few different shows on there. I
Speaker 2: mean I do like usually like one to two a week.
Speaker 2: I'll kind of do like a topic driven show. Those
Speaker 2: are like the No Way Jose normal episodes than I do.
Speaker 2: I also do a daily live stream, but this is
Speaker 2: all on No Way Jose. Uh this, I do a
Speaker 2: daily live stream typically mostly it's daily, it's like most
Speaker 2: days and if I'm not there usually Austin is because
Speaker 2: me and him we hosted on both of our channels.
Speaker 2: We do a morning show together. We also do Already Dead,
Speaker 2: which is on Tuesdays at nine thirty pm Eastern. We
Speaker 2: do a live call in show. So if you guys
Speaker 2: have any questions, a butt any the research of me
Speaker 2: and Austin do. That's hosted on both of our platforms
Speaker 2: as well. So everything me and Austin is hosted on
Speaker 2: both our platforms. For all my stuff is all It's
Speaker 2: no Way Jose, so my solo stuff and the stuff
Speaker 2: I do with Austin, So go check that out. I've
Speaker 2: got that stuff from probably most well known for it.
Speaker 2: So if I could recommend go check out my playlist
Speaker 2: on YouTube if you want to kind of find a
Speaker 2: spot to start, you can kind of that's where everything's
Speaker 2: well organized.
Speaker 3: But probably the.
Speaker 2: Best thing is probably my OKAC bombing coverage. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm best known for. I have somewhere in the realm
Speaker 2: of like twenty plus hours on there in that playlist,
Speaker 2: fifteen of which is like completely just a series on it,
Speaker 2: you know, neatly kind of going into different topics throughout.
Speaker 2: I've went way down the wormhouse. I'm still am still
Speaker 2: reading books on the Oklahoma City bombing. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of where I focus on a lot. That's kind of
Speaker 2: what started me down the parapolitical wormhole. My show used
Speaker 2: to be a lot more about like political theory and
Speaker 2: stuff now and now it's far more conspirabe and every
Speaker 2: now and then I might do some political theory stuff,
Speaker 2: but you know, it just kind.
Speaker 1: Of Territorial Society. This stuff's happening Epstein. They're covering up Epstein.
Speaker 1: This we're gonna relieve veal at all and all transparency
Speaker 1: is I mean from what they're showing now, that's a
Speaker 1: bunch of loney and the stuff about okay see is
Speaker 1: boloney too? Like? And have you? Do you know they
Speaker 1: are aware of there's a new movie that came out
Speaker 1: called McVeigh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on Apple TV. I don't think it's released yet.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be released in like a month
Speaker 2: or so. It doesn't look right to me, but I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see. I don't know. It's really hard to tell.
Speaker 3: For now.
Speaker 2: It looks like they're kind of trying to cover the
Speaker 2: period leading up to the bombing. It's an area that
Speaker 2: Wendy Painting covered a lot in her book Aberration in
Speaker 2: the Heartland of the Real. It's kind of a weird
Speaker 2: portion of the like the period after he got out
Speaker 2: of the military, end before the bombing. There's a good
Speaker 2: probably five plus years stretch there which a lot of weirdness.
Speaker 2: He was working for cal Tech at one point, he
Speaker 2: was he was.
Speaker 1: Doing he was weirdly visited with Bill Cooper.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, supposedly allegedly by Bill.
Speaker 2: I mean he's supposedly then he's like meeting, He's hobnobbing
Speaker 2: with all the major you know, you know, right wing
Speaker 2: you know, racist, radical whatever entities during that time and
Speaker 2: almost in like a making a legend for oneself type
Speaker 2: of way.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever does that. Oswald wasn't doing that, I mean exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, this is conspiracy theory. Yeah, dare you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He I mean he was telling his sister like I'm
Speaker 1: a deep agent.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: There's a letter that it was years before it. So
Speaker 2: it's like it's kind of hard to under I mean,
Speaker 2: that's you just have to say he lied. That's the
Speaker 2: only way you really explained just a liar.
Speaker 1: He's a he's his sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a compulsive liar. That's the only way to
Speaker 2: explain that, because it's like, I mean, bizarre thing to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the worst criminal out there too, like he
Speaker 1: left the scene of the crime in his car with
Speaker 1: license and got pulled over right.
Speaker 3: Away, like which that is, By the way, that arrest
Speaker 3: video was not complete.
Speaker 2: It's been cut and there there's also multiple eyewitnesses a
Speaker 2: claim that they saw another truck pull up after he
Speaker 2: got pulled over.
Speaker 1: Because god missing the people have seen there's all yeah
Speaker 1: sketchy stuff.
Speaker 3: Yep, there's a there's a lot to it.
Speaker 1: And of this bomb, Like he must have been super
Speaker 1: intelligent because he directly made it truck bomb that's directional
Speaker 1: and it's super powerful. Yeah, that could actually blow up
Speaker 1: half of a federal building.
Speaker 3: Official narrative was he did it in one day.
Speaker 1: He was a genius, Like he's so smart. He can
Speaker 1: build this great bomb, but then like can't get away
Speaker 1: from the crime scene and figure it out. He can
Speaker 1: set the timer, but he wasn't smart enough to like
Speaker 1: this is probably before like the advent of so many
Speaker 1: like video cameras everywhere, CTV everywhere, Like he couldn't figure out,
Speaker 1: like home, how do I suspect get away? Like they
Speaker 1: should go to the bus station and just stick a
Speaker 1: bus out.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean on the surveillance tape side of things,
Speaker 2: there were there's literally been proven in court that survey
Speaker 2: there were surveillance tapes of the actual bombing. There even
Speaker 2: was secret Service documents that say that they saw another
Speaker 2: person stepping out of the things of a second person
Speaker 2: stepping out of the rider truck.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but we've never seen it. Well, that's a
Speaker 3: little bit untrue.
Speaker 2: Jesse Trinity in court received copies of it, but it
Speaker 2: weirdly seemed to cut out at nine o two right
Speaker 2: before the bombing, every single one of them.
Speaker 3: That's weird, right, No.
Speaker 1: Weird, And that Jesse Trentity gets beat up And wasn't
Speaker 1: that One of the trent to do.
Speaker 3: Was Kenneth his brother. Yeah, yep, he was one of
Speaker 3: the suicided individuals along with Terrence. Heke.
Speaker 1: He just beat himself in the head, right, didn't He
Speaker 1: just punched himself over and over and bloody to a pool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he beat the ship out of himself and then
Speaker 3: hung himself apparently, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same with like went out into a field like
Speaker 1: people are following me. I think I'm in Troubleide.
Speaker 2: The dude had anemia and supposedly the this somehow, or
Speaker 2: to believe that he got from his car that was
Speaker 2: covered in like two liters of blood, which that's enough
Speaker 2: to get you to pass out, basically start losing consciousness
Speaker 2: and you know, almost the verge of dying. And somehow
Speaker 2: he ended up half a mile to a mile and
Speaker 2: a half away in a field from his car and
Speaker 2: covered in blood. So obviously he sustained some damage there.
Speaker 2: You know, this theory being he cut himself up then
Speaker 2: some for some reason when the field and blew his
Speaker 2: brains out. But yeah, somehow a guy with sickle cell
Speaker 2: anemia lost two leadars of blood and managed to walk
Speaker 2: through a half a mile or a mile and a
Speaker 2: half of rough terrain, over fences, through streams and the
Speaker 2: like and blow his brains out at a downward angle.
Speaker 2: And this guy was built like a corn fed big dude,
Speaker 2: and you were to believe he shot himself like this.
Speaker 1: So it's just I mean, it's preposterous. So many of
Speaker 1: the stories we've read and heard are just ye, just
Speaker 1: not believable. And same with Epstein and this will I mean,
Speaker 1: this is like this is a sign of things to
Speaker 1: come for the Trump administration that Epstein.
Speaker 3: Roll out, yep, the the pivot is in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the other thing is like this, like
Speaker 1: I'm starting to this just happened today, this kind of
Speaker 1: roll out with the Epstein, but I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: them influencing these other influencers, so like it's not just
Speaker 1: the agents of influence. But we've got these dirrect guys
Speaker 1: and they're gonna help us tell this part of the
Speaker 1: story for us, and they're gonna look like the media.
Speaker 3: So the Twitter files.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the Twitter files? This feels like they're
Speaker 2: they're following the template of like the Twitter file rolls
Speaker 2: out for this thing. I have a feeling that's gonna
Speaker 2: be kind of how this presents itself. They're gonna find people,
Speaker 2: these influencers to roll it out. At least with the
Speaker 2: Twitter files, we got like what was it, Matt Tayibi
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 3: That was kind of legit.
Speaker 2: Now we're getting like lives a TikTok, like DC Dreno,
Speaker 2: like like what guys, Yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Lives of tick there. I mean there's questions about her
Speaker 1: like esus. Yeah, it gets People should be afraid of
Speaker 1: the alternate media because there's like really scary things going
Speaker 1: on in the alternate media that and there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of very nefarious, very sinister influence agents out there, so
Speaker 1: be be careful. They didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 1: It's getting real dark. They want full control. The Satanists,
Speaker 1: like these people who are like you know, du Trow.
Speaker 1: They get off on total control and they don't like
Speaker 1: anybody independent. They hate independence, and they want to blackmail everybody.
Speaker 1: Like they tried to put their finger on me, Like
Speaker 1: it's incredible, like whoa, Like they couldn't do it. But
Speaker 1: I mean, like this stuff is you wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell the real stories.
Speaker 3: They sick acutie on you.
Speaker 1: Basically, they've done a full past life regression until like
Speaker 1: I'm fifty six, Like whoa, we went back to my
Speaker 1: high school. Like this is really weird. Somebody went through
Speaker 1: every one of my episodes to see if I They
Speaker 1: did it to Rogan too, because they had him saying
Speaker 1: n words and stuff in his earlier shows, but they
Speaker 1: went through all his to try to put a finger
Speaker 1: on him too. I think I'll go.
Speaker 2: Ahead say, anyone out there, if you want to do
Speaker 2: that to me, please do. I will retweet it and
Speaker 2: I will laugh.
Speaker 3: I don't care. That's the way you stay uncanceable. Oh
Speaker 3: you have this reel of me saying offensive stuff.
Speaker 1: They can never put anything in writing about me because
Speaker 1: it's fake because I'll assume them. I mean, it's it's easy,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna turn I know what defamation per se means,
Speaker 1: but it's it's bad. They don't they don't want it's
Speaker 1: a it's a power thing, and they don't like independence.
Speaker 1: It's also competitive, so a lot of these guys are
Speaker 1: making money and they don't want to have I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like any business situation. You're just a competitor
Speaker 1: for information. We don't want you to be critical of
Speaker 1: me or anybody else. We want to own the narrative.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of writing on these narratives. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to cd Like there's a narrative that Israelis
Speaker 1: are a war with Gossins and it's a genocide. Like
Speaker 1: it's not a war like this. A war is like
Speaker 1: two equal parties kind of fighting each other. Like the
Speaker 1: Gosins are like fighting with like Toyota hatchbacks and sniper
Speaker 1: rifles or something. Come on, man, this is like a nonsense.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot like there's a lot of it's
Speaker 1: really it's again real dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been weird.
Speaker 1: Start dropping dead. I actually I will tell you right now,
Speaker 1: mark my words. But February twenty seven, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: next couple of years, there'll be people die mysteriously in
Speaker 1: the ultern media, as it is a chilling factor. They
Speaker 1: will do it just to make sure everybody gets scared
Speaker 1: and people will go off and drive for uber or
Speaker 1: do something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're probably right.
Speaker 2: I do think that that it has seemed to be
Speaker 2: there are a lot of odd characters that are coming
Speaker 2: in place, a lot of ones that like, I mean,
Speaker 2: on my morning show, I've done quite a bit of
Speaker 2: coverage of like it so and so fed is so
Speaker 2: and so fed, and like I'm usually pretty fair about it,
Speaker 2: and it's like there are a lot of people with uh,
Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm noticing a lot of patterns.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of them. There's not many of them.
Speaker 2: I would really be like, he's totally a fat because
Speaker 2: I don't like the whole fed jacking thing. But I'll
Speaker 2: evaluate the information and I'll you'll give you an honest
Speaker 2: on an honest appraisal. But uh yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of individuals there that are glowing quite bright and it's
Speaker 2: a little bit concerning, and it's kind of like it's
Speaker 2: almost like the edge out people like me or you.
Speaker 2: So with that, I think people out there you just
Speaker 2: need to support, you know, people like me or you,
Speaker 2: because really we just need to be able to try
Speaker 2: to get some quality up there in the other upper levels.
Speaker 2: That way, we can be in positions where we can
Speaker 2: interact with these individuals and I mean not necessarily be
Speaker 2: you know, hostile, but you know, if you have someone
Speaker 2: like me or you in these high levels, and if
Speaker 2: you have someone that's like sort of on our page
Speaker 2: but yet twisting the narrative to go one way and
Speaker 2: you have somebody like us through a buffet, it kind
Speaker 2: of puts them in a weird light where it kind
Speaker 2: of makes it more obvious what they're doing. But if
Speaker 2: they can inculcate them, inculcate themselves to be separate from
Speaker 2: us to where they don't have to interact with any
Speaker 2: organically you know, impressive people of any sort, then it's
Speaker 2: like they're able to get away with, Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: find a way to cope this for whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: political entity I'm probably assigned to advocating for or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. There's so much secret NGO money out there
Speaker 1: from Biden administration. These guys will be out there forever,
Speaker 1: and the secret money you never see. But some of
Speaker 1: those guys, like even these influence operators who are at
Speaker 1: the White House today. I know for a fact some
Speaker 1: of those are getting big dollars from like wealthy resaions
Speaker 1: sources and things like that. Like they're not independent. They
Speaker 1: don't even say they're independent because I don't think they
Speaker 1: could get away with it. Hose, great to talk with
Speaker 1: you people. Check out your stuff. I'll put links to
Speaker 1: your YouTube channel with the playlist and your podcast and
Speaker 1: this goes out today.
Speaker 2: And follow me on Twitter at tagging Jose if you
Speaker 2: want to do that, if you want to support me
Speaker 2: monetarily patron to accomplish no way, Hose twenty twenty, I'll
Speaker 2: put I appreciate you having me on, William. I love
Speaker 2: coming on is great fun. It's always good to have
Speaker 2: you onto.
Speaker 1: Its super eligible about this stuff. But guys, the Dutro
Speaker 1: affair is very similar to Epstein. Guys, same kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Control elites under weird things happening with the legal system,
Speaker 1: Like even now, weird things are happening. So stay frosty,
Speaker 1: as they say, stay cool, stay safe and God bless.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your talking about hearts. Do that