WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:04.599 Okay, we are alive. How does William Ramsey Welcome to 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:07.639 William Ramsey Investigates on today's show, have a very special guest. 3 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:11.119 We've done a couple shows together. We've done shows on 4 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.080 nights and multi recently, and Gladiot's kind of overlaps with 5 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:16.800 our topic tonight. I was also on his show on 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:20.760 the New Wayos podcast talking about Crowley. But I've noticed 7 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:23.679 that he was doing a lot of research into dew 8 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.600 Tro Mark Dutrou, this hole event that happened in Belgium. 9 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.519 Some people are familiar with it, some people know more. 10 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:31.920 There's a lot to know. And the timing is actually 11 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:36.119 incredible because we arranged this earlier this month, maybe late 12 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.679 in January. Today is February twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, 13 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.159 and supposedly the big day of the release of the 14 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.479 Jeffrey Epstein files, all these vaunted files, and then they 15 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.759 slow roll it and then they released some binders to 16 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.200 a bunch of social influencers. I call them social sphincters 17 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:57.600 because what they released in these binders is ridiculous. Like 18 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:59.880 I know the Epstein files, like I've done tons of 19 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.039 shows on Epstein from twenty nineteen when he was arrested 20 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.760 when he was murdered in jail. Like, I've read so 21 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.159 many files on Epstein and when they what they released 22 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.159 as a joke, I mean, it's not even a it's laughable, 23 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.439 and maybe they're slow rolling it or whatever, but these 24 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.000 were and they perlorided them out with these guys like 25 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.159 it was some kind of big event, like in the 26 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:24.159 White House, Like come on, somebody, who you think we're 27 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.319 all suckers like this is why don't you just release 28 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.599 it to the public. That's like you show these fake releases. 29 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:33.079 This is a fake release, a joke release, as opposed 30 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.799 to WikiLeaks, who just put the stuff out like Okay, 31 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.760 these are our files. You guys can go through them, 32 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:42.599 release the autists, release the journalists, release the independent journalists 33 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.719 on these files, and let them go and unredact the 34 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.959 whole thing. So this is just kind of another pseudo 35 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.480 kind of release. It looks just sketchy, and these guys 36 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.000 look worse than we're in releasing this than actually looking 37 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.920 like truth Tale as your transparency. They shouldn't even have 38 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:01.560 released it. I mean, it's a total joke anyway, dude, 39 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.200 tro does have overlaps to Epstein. Epstein is a huge 40 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:09.599 national cultural event. It's not just some limited kind of 41 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.960 one off of a pedal. This guy was blackmailing everybody 42 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.879 he could with the Glain Maxwell. These guys are spooks, 43 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:22.719 they're working for probably multiple government agencies. There's clearly FBI 44 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.680 boxes in there, so Cash Betel should have access if 45 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.639 they haven't just torched everything at the FBI building and 46 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.400 and you know put it into you know, paper mill 47 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.439 or something like that. But still that information should be 48 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.800 you know, available of what's going on with Epstein, and 49 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.360 people need to know because we're just like the midst 50 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.360 of some of the worst corruption we've ever seen in 51 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:51.439 this country. Hundreds of billions of dollars are missing, there's 52 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:56.439 all kinds of pedophile blackmail going on, Strange things happening 53 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.280 all around the world. Influencers too, Some of these influencers 54 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.800 you just oppose he had the scene stuff is very suspect. 55 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.360 Dutreux is like that, Mark Dutroux. They always tried to 56 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.360 minimize it and make it look like it was just 57 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.199 a small guy. This is a massive net. It's actually 58 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.000 part of the Belgian society. It's actually worse than that. 59 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.520 It's not even a network there's just a really dark 60 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:23.039 underbelly of satanism, child abuse, orgying drugs, and Dutroux was 61 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:23.919 just a part of that. 62 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:29.000 But yeah, no, he's a It's an interesting story because 63 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:30.879 even the idea that we even call it the Dutroux 64 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.439 fair at all is kind of a misnomer because dutrou 65 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:35.479 is such a I mean he is I do think 66 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.360 he resides in an interesting spot within the network. He's 67 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.879 kind of like the nexus between the like on the 68 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:45.319 ground thugs and then kind of like the actual like 69 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.960 a hoity toity network above. But at the end of 70 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.199 the day, he is, you know, kind of simply just 71 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.719 the henchman he seems to be. He's a handyman, electrician. 72 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.759 He seems to actually fill a similar role amongst this group. 73 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:00.479 And he also kind of has below him this almost 74 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.800 like a crew, like a little gang. I forget there 75 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.159 was a name for him too. I can't recall the 76 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.560 name of the gang. But you see here l layer 77 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.759 of you know, on the right there, who is one 78 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.120 of those individuals in the gang. He was helping him 79 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:17.439 kidnap and rape children. So it is it is interesting 80 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.040 that it's you know, left as the doutrou affair, when 81 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.000 in reality, I think it'd be far more accurate to 82 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.199 call it the kneehol affair, or even higher than that, 83 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.399 because this is the story that doesn't stop giving. The 84 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.800 more you dig into it, the more you are blown away. 85 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:33.240 I mean, this is kind of this is a you know, 86 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.279 you know, you know, subject number one for me and 87 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.079 Austin's like ongoing, like we're getting ready to go back 88 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:40.759 on timfol Had again. We've been working on a new 89 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.360 theme that we can kind of like talking about, and 90 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.279 really it's the same thing we've always kind of come 91 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.000 back to on our show, like the idea of how 92 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.439 all roads seem to lead back to Gladio And it's 93 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.759 almost like Gladys this multifaceted op with so many different layers. 94 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:55.959 There's like drug trafficking, sex trafficking, network, like blackmail, like 95 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.560 all different you know, there's you know, satanic elements, and 96 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.879 this is kind of the one of the best examples 97 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:05.319 of this. I mean, there are so many different ways, 98 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:08.000 if anything, it's almost overwhelming how many different angles you 99 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.079 can take with it, which so we we could easily 100 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.600 spend probably three plus hours just going random little thread. 101 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.319 So I mean, I guess I don't know where exactly 102 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.160 you want to bring this initially, I guess we can 103 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.879 kind of lay out where you know, the the the 104 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:22.519 beginnings of this, but I mean I'll let you lead. 105 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.120 You're the host. 106 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:25.199 I mean, we can go so many different ways with 107 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.360 the story. But it is interesting to you know, it is, 108 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.839 and it's almost kind of like it is parallels today 109 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:32.120 where the idea that you know, i mean, Dutro's on 110 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:33.759 a perfect and you know, fill in for an Epstein, 111 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:35.079 but Epstein's the same thing, Like. 112 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.639 He was kind of not the one guy. 113 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.040 He clearly, if anything, Glame was probably a bigger fish 114 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.079 than him in my opinion. And then beyond that you 115 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.839 had Robert Maxwell, who's obviously dead. So but I mean 116 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.079 you look into that, you know, that's also the gift 117 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:48.879 that keeps giving. You know, this guy was involved in 118 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.399 like slinging the promise software, all sorts of different espionage 119 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.439 all over the country. I mean, this clearly comes back 120 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.360 to Massad too with him. I mean, it doesn't so 121 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.360 much of dutrou affairs, so there's no parallel there as 122 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.000 far as I'm aware. But you know, and then you know, 123 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.480 on the we had the picture today with all the 124 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.040 influencers all want every single one of them are notable Zionists, 125 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.240 which I mean, fine, whatever, but like geez, Louise, like 126 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.879 I know me and it's kind of reminds me of 127 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:17.720 like me and Austin had a good laugh the other 128 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.279 day where the whistleblower and if you saw the video 129 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.480 of the whistleblower who came out that said before this 130 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.959 kind of prepping us for this, the idea that, oh, 131 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.279 the FBI is shredding all these Epstein documents and JFK 132 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.720 documents and stuff. Yes, And it was the most it 133 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.879 was probably one of the most aggressively. I mean, not 134 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.120 that there's necessarily wrong with being this, but the most 135 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.639 aggressively look a Jewish guy you've ever seen. And it's 136 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:41.600 it's kind of ironic, and you're like kind of like, 137 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.480 are you kidding me? Seriously. It's because it's like, I 138 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.360 don't believe you. I don't, I don't, I don't believe 139 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.000 you that this was Oh Oopsie's they're delating them now. 140 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:51.480 I think, you know, someone got a hundred million dollars 141 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.920 from Miriam Madelson and the checks coming checks paying. 142 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:55.360 Off right now. 143 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.839 I think we're gonna get a wash and hopefully maybe 144 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.240 we can get a white March like happened in Bellem 145 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.279 if this keeps going, because fose are untaware. This did 146 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:07.319 lead up to the Belgium kind of uprising and really 147 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:10.000 voicing their issues, and I think they did probably throw 148 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.480 some bricks in the works of this whole, this whole 149 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:14.319 you know, whatever was. 150 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:14.920 Going on here. 151 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.879 But yeah, there was like three hundred to three hundred 152 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:22.639 fifty thousand people that marched in protests of how this 153 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:25.879 all went down, since it was a very obvious cover up. 154 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:27.959 But yeah, I'll pass it off to you. I'm just 155 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:28.399 rambling now. 156 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.720 This well, let's just talk about for people who may 157 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.439 not know why it got the name, do you true afair? 158 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:37.319 It got the name because something happened in nineteen ninety six, 159 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:41.720 ninety six that opened up this whole thing and an investigation. 160 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.240 People were freaked out, So maybe we can just talk 161 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.759 about the basics and then expand from that, like what happened. 162 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:52.360 Yeah, I believe it was the Julian Melissa kidnapping that 163 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.160 really set it off. That's where the the people got involved. 164 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.680 Although this happened before and there were other it is 165 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.279 kind of hard. This is a you know, This is 166 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.480 a one of those cases I've had to, you know, 167 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:03.600 look at from many different angles to really get a 168 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.759 grip on it. It's a little bit confusing because you know, 169 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.199 you know, jumping around on the chronology where things, because yes, 170 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.639 where this does kind of kick off as a Julie 171 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:12.600 Melissa kidnapping, but there are things before. 172 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:13.920 For example, du. 173 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.519 Trou At nineteen eighty nine was he was that he 174 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.839 got busted for abducting and raping five girls. 175 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.639 He only got thirteen years in prison and. 176 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.920 Ended up only doing three years in reality, so this 177 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:28.839 happened before them, but this was kind of what it's 178 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:30.639 kind of I guess, you know, the parallel here would 179 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.159 be like with Epstein with his Sweetheart deal. Before most 180 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.600 people weren't really aware of it. It didn't really register 181 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.679 on the public consciousness. But it really was in ninety 182 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.480 ninety five when Julie and Melissa are kidnapped and that 183 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.639 the kind of circus that follows that that really started 184 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:47.679 getting the public involved. 185 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:49.440 They started realizing what is going on here. 186 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:52.240 I mean, there was a there were multiple other girls 187 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.440 throughout this whole ordeal that got kidnapped too. A couple 188 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.840 of them ended up surviving. I believe the rest of them, 189 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.639 you know, met untimely fates, and it seemed pretty obvious 190 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.360 throughout this. For example, there was a surveillance investigation throughout 191 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.799 this there where they were watching Dutrou's house. 192 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:10.600 Where they literally were the kids. 193 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:13.519 The children were being held and they tried to escape 194 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.080 multiple times, like it was able to be proven that 195 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.799 they escaped. They were visible where the cameras when the 196 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:23.159 people were supposedly conducting surveillance, but somehow they never saw them. 197 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.919 It was ludicrous, this surveillance that they conducted on them. 198 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.879 It was like something ridiculous, like maybe just a couple 199 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.519 hours a day during the days he was the least active. 200 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:32.559 It was. 201 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.039 It was completely a put on and if anything had 202 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.879 actually filled the role of giving the appearance this public show, 203 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.399 you know, as we just kind of got this public 204 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.639 show of look at what we're doing to address this problem. Meanwhile, 205 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.840 what it really ended up doing was preventing other agencies 206 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.519 from getting involved because they thought, oh, look, this thing's 207 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.519 not unlocked. It also makes the public think, oh, it's 208 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:55.320 being taken care of. Meanwhile nothing's being done and the 209 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:59.240 children are literally starving to death in the house as 210 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.279 it's happening. Actually, I take that back a little bit, 211 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.480 that there is a contention in whether they're starving to death. 212 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.440 Later we find out there were like twenty five plus 213 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.080 different hair samples found in the dungeon they were in, 214 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.639 and so the story that, oh, well, because Dutreux was 215 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.679 in prison during this time, the story that, oh, they 216 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.759 just starved to death while he was in prison doesn't 217 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:21.240 really seem to hold up given the all the DNA 218 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:22.840 that obvious you seem to. 219 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:24.120 Never actually get followed up on. 220 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.159 So, yeah, that that seems to comport with the idea 221 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.480 that there were other people looking after him. Also, the 222 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:31.600 amount of time it took for them to die from 223 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.000 starving to death and dehydration, it wouldn't make sense they 224 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.240 lived for months after Dutreux went to jail, so that 225 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.279 story does not jive. Somehow they were they managed to 226 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.960 live on a little bit longer before meeting their fate 227 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.360 while he was in prison, I mean. And then top 228 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:49.720 it all off, these kids, these kids in question we 229 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:54.559 just mentioned Juliane, Melissa, they were literally at one point 230 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:59.679 they actually entered the the domicile of Dutreux searching for 231 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:03.440 the children, and they could hear their children's voices. Investigators 232 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:06.440 said it, and the the the lead investigator went silence, 233 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.440 just said it loudly, and you know, the idea being like, oh, 234 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.039 you could interpret that as like he's telling everyone else 235 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.519 in the house to be quiet so we can listen. 236 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:15.960 But then they just then the kids went silent, and 237 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.279 they go no, nothing, and they moved on. I mean, 238 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:19.960 there's more to suggest too that it's like it was. 239 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.480 It was super ridiculous, the idea that they couldn't figure 240 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.000 it out, that they were they were still in the house. 241 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.519 They didn't really seem to do a thorough investigation. It 242 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.039 was almost as if they didn't want to see it, 243 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.639 and we're just trying to check a box to say 244 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.360 they did what needed to be done. This is something 245 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:36.519 I'm sure all of us can really really understand with 246 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.639 late with events as of late, so right. 247 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:45.559 Like no investigation, shoddy investigation. We are policed all the 248 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.759 way through this whole case. And you talk about the 249 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.960 White March, which was like three hundred and fifty thousand 250 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.799 people in Brussels right of the EU. Know that's where're 251 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.639 you know, very strange. So there's weird connections between all 252 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.879 these people but it's the same it's the same overlap 253 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.080 between Epstein and Dutro is that during this investigation, they're 254 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.240 finding all these elites, so Dutro is really just to 255 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:10.000 go for He's like a kind of a load to 256 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:14.960 mid level criminal, inexplicable amounts of money, three houses, cars, 257 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:19.559 he's traveling around. Where's he getting his cash from? He 258 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:23.320 was always a low kind of a lower level crook. 259 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:29.000 But yeah, so these kids end up to survive, Like 260 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.519 there's really incredible video of two surviving and two dying, 261 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:38.679 and there's other mysterious disappearances of kids too. Right in 262 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.919 this network, there's all kinds of weird things going on. 263 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.720 Yeah, yeah, that's when we get to the ex dossier, 264 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:45.399 where then it comes to the other children that weren't 265 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.440 like the initial one, which even then that could get you. 266 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.440 It's hard to detract the chronology because the whole ex 267 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:53.879 dossier Shenanigan's happened a decent amount after that too, because 268 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.480 it wasn't until WikiLeaks released it later after the fact, 269 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:57.120 when it. 270 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.679 Kind of was like, hey, it was all over and 271 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:00.120 everyone's kind of like, oh, the cover ups on. 272 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:04.600 We moved on, and then WikiLeaks dropped that dropped that information, 273 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.960 and which that's where it gets really wild. I mean, 274 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.519 before it seemed like it was more just a I mean, 275 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.039 there was the Peenon files that happened before that, which 276 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.240 were also like a similar type thing where it's you know, 277 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.159 implications of extremely high level individuals that were involved in 278 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.440 the most ridiculous types of debauchery you could really imagine 279 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.720 which and that was in the Peenon files, which was 280 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.960 was Albert Penon, I believe it was supposedly his wife, 281 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.919 you know, he was able to get she admitted to 282 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.759 him the about these pink ballets that were occurring, and 283 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:38.840 that's where then I guess he managed to collect some information. 284 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.720 So there's like this is kind of becomes part of 285 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.799 the story. The Peenon dossier that's supposedly floating out there. 286 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.919 There's theories that different intelligence agencies got a hold of it, 287 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.320 so there's kind of like blackmail versus blackmail, spy verse 288 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:51.879 by type stuff. So there's a lot of that going on. 289 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.039 But the Penon affair even proceeded there, you know, was 290 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.639 before this, So I mean, these it's kind of hard 291 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.519 not to tie these things all in, especially when the 292 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.759 characters seem to all be the same ones floating around. 293 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.679 I mean, you know, Belgium was like a huge hub 294 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.080 for NATO as well, which for those of us you 295 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.440 know inundated in the in the para political world are 296 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.279 aware of Gladio and how that plays into NATO. Uh, 297 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.960 Belgium was a Belgium played a big part in the 298 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.799 in in Gladio. H. I mean, the the Brabant killings 299 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:26.679 come into this, uh, which is the what were the gendarmes, 300 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.039 which is the military police were literally running cover for 301 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.879 a you know, essentially what was an intelligence front that 302 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.279 was a pair of military organization that was carrying out 303 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.320 hits on individuals. 304 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:37.919 I mean it was supposed to be private citizens. 305 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.679 There are implications that these were people, these were actually 306 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:45.440 targeted assassinations on individuals with blackmail on this operation. So 307 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:47.639 that's kind of where this ties in. So it I mean, 308 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.120 we can just I get carried away with this story 309 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:51.679 because you can go so many different ways, and it 310 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:55.120 is like, I mean, like the even that the the 311 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.480 the Westland New Post that literally was founded by an 312 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:02.159 individual who supposedly he had connections to Alexander Haigu and 313 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.759 was found It came out of the DIA, which is 314 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.159 an American organization, so it's like. 315 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.440 That's al hag Knight of Malta and these overlapped. So 316 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.559 some of these names that you mentioned in the Pinon affair, 317 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.879 the Americans wouldn't know these names, but Paul Land and 318 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.960 boy Nons is involved in the affair and kind of 319 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:29.799 is friends with hul So the original arrest in ninety six, 320 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:34.200 there are like six people arrested, so it's not just 321 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:40.080 dou True, it's Dutreu, his wife, Michelle Martin, michel Lelevreux. However, 322 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.759 you see that French Houle and Bernard Weinstein, and then 323 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.720 Dutroux goes on to kill Weinstein and bury him deep 324 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:48.559 in his backyard. 325 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:49.879 And there's the reasoning. 326 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.240 His explanation for that was because he was upset that 327 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.360 they let Julian Melissa starve to death. 328 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:56.879 I don't know if I buy that. 329 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:59.240 Do a fun little note too, there's something the realm 330 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:03.320 of like twenty plus suspicious deaths and connection to the Dudereux. 331 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:08.600 Affair suicides just masked murders all. I mean, it's just 332 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.240 off the charts, and it's very skilled stuff. This is 333 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.000 like pro level deaths. 334 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:14.000 Like and a lot of it's while he is in 335 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.480 jail too, so you can't just say it was O Dutreux. 336 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:19.240 He's clearly clicked into a network like these are people 337 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:26.200 being killed carrying out targeted assassinations, Gladio. So it makes 338 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.000 you wonder, I mean you brought up VDB Vanden Boynen's 339 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.759 a second ago. I mean in the Penan affair, who 340 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.440 actually know it wasn't he was King Albert. I believe 341 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.799 him implicated in the Banana affair. He VDB may as well. 342 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.240 But there's like a character most people have known, Like 343 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.320 if you've ever watched the Gladio documentary, most people are 344 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:44.720 probably that are kind of in the no that's seen 345 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.440 the video of Michelle Leber, who was an individual who 346 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.879 was part of Westland New Post and also a part 347 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:54.440 of their navy. And there's another story where how they 348 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.120 got NATO documents through Michelle Lebert. But anyways, beside the point, 349 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.000 Michell Lebert also claims to have seen or seen I 350 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.680 don't know if his photos or video of King Albert 351 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.960 and Vanden Boyne's who was the former Prime minister of Belgium. 352 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.799 I believe around most of the stuff he was the 353 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:13.000 Prime Minister when with this stuff was kind of heated up. 354 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.680 I forget the exact years he was, but he claimed 355 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.319 to have seen them naked with with women and children 356 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.319 naked with them as well, and have photos that, as 357 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.799 did Niehul. Niehule claimed that he had photos. He claimed 358 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.160 to a journalist that he could sell him photos of 359 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.720 of King Albert of Belgium, you know, for a certain price, 360 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.960 of him naked with children. And King Albert apparently is 361 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.480 a fun fact. Apparently he's not able to be prosecuted 362 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.039 because he's the king. That's literally how that works. I 363 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:44.799 guess there's a cut up for him. He basically can 364 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.640 do whatever. And there's a lot of people who theorize 365 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.400 that's what got it thrown out because it's kind of 366 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:51.920 a non starter. How do you even begin to approach 367 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:54.160 a case that is involved that implicates the king. 368 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.240 It's just kind of you can't. And so, you know, 369 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:58.960 I think there's probably more to it than that, but 370 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:00.599 I mean, the very you can, and you can stum 371 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:01.720 it up. It's like, yeah, it went. 372 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:05.920 All the way to the royal individuals that were in Belgium, 373 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:09.039 and uh, which makes it it kind of it looks 374 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.240 like Gladio was essentially being carried out by the elites 375 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.519 up into including the royals, which I feel like that 376 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.960 kind of adds a weird little element to it, especially 377 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.000 when you understand that the generational aspect of these people 378 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:22.960 and these problem people were kind of tied into the 379 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.960 old world networks that kind of preceded World War Two 380 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.440 to begin with anyway, So it was almost like a 381 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.880 carrying on of whatever was going on before that, and 382 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.240 it's that's them. So and I just find I find 383 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:34.119 that I find all. 384 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.759 This incredibly interesting, and I could I could just skize 385 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:37.640 out on this forever. 386 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.720 It's incredible, because it's that's why I'm saying this event 387 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.440 do true was just a minimalization or a limited hangout 388 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.680 or a narrowing of people's understanding, because it goes like 389 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.319 you said to the king, to all of these aristocrats, 390 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:54.799 this is what they do. They orgy on the weekends. 391 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.000 This is how they blow off steam. They're not going 392 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.680 over to the theater there been. They need people for 393 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.240 these ordios. So Nie who Will, there's stories of him 394 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:08.480 like a constant orgying but at club, sex parties, all 395 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.359 this stuff, And niehu Will flat out said I've got 396 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.440 I can never be prosecuted because I have information on everybody, 397 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:17.359 Like so he was that kind of dark and their stories. 398 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:20.119 Oh sorry, I just want to point out I just 399 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:21.319 remember it. I just didn't want to let it go. 400 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:24.759 I find this particularly interesting, especially if you think about 401 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:26.640