Speaker 1: I made a decision a face sunny sun, I had
vision nic Hey, everybody, welcome to for crying out loud.
Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Remember for a long time that
commercial with the and then that was funny. It was funny,
and then it got overdone and then everybody was like,
oh god, I hate it when they do the word.
This was super Bowl commercial, that's right, many years ago.
So I heard.
Speaker 3: I just got reminded of something literally this second that
Jlo and Shakira.
Speaker 2: Apparently Jlo was irritated this. You know, it's probably overblown,
but it just came out that Jaylo was like annoyed
that she and Shakira had to share the stage for
the super Bowl because she was like, you know, normally
the super Bowl act gets like twenty minutes, but somehow
she and Shakira each only had like six minutes for
their thing. And it reminded me of how one of
our most controversial shows was because I discussed the fact
that I thought it was like a bit much.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I was.
Speaker 2: Like, it just seemed I won't get back into it
because people got real divided and real mad at me.
Apparently I sounded like, you know, some right wing anti feminists,
like because I was like, it just seemed weird that
it was the Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl, which feels like a family show, and it was
like so much stripping, Like it wasn't even just the
sexy dancing. It was when there was like stripper poles,
and then she had her daughter out there, and I
was like, I don't know if I need to like, yeah,
I know, I said something about having to explain, Like
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just didn't feel like what why how is that empowering?
Speaker 3: Right that like you finally had these two like Latina
women and it becomes all about like stripping on a pole, right, Yeah,
But apparently some people felt very much the polar opposite,
and then it became like a huge thread where people
were so disappointed in.
Speaker 1: Me, why what do we? Why did we?
Speaker 2: Because was Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: And then me seeing that article about how that those
women were pissed that two Latino women had to share,
had to Why couldn't they just.
Speaker 2: Have one or give them more time?
Speaker 3: I guess they argued for more time, and I agree
the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or Shakira one or the other, Shakira, Shakira, Shakira
all right.
Speaker 2: Let me let's say how to our peeps. Okay, we've
got today.
Speaker 3: Liz is sassy, Amanda and Casey get some zoom skills.
You guys, Jennifer, stand up for what you believe in.
Don't fall Sarah Stefano, Leslie, it's this COVID is out
of control. Everybody has it and Leslie's spreading it.
Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm te Aaron, what is Amy?
Speaker 1: Still be a hund.
Speaker 2: Michelle mccanman. We love you. Kelly Brandt, gimme a mentos
so hot? I sink a rink er, Missy and Gabby.
Speaker 3: Colleen, Yeah, Colleen, skater girl, Katerina, get your molo checked.
Speaker 2: Hero. We already wish you a.
Speaker 4: Happy father Father's Day again, in case you didn't hear
it exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it's coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's closer now, Happy Father's Day. Your son David
loves you.
Speaker 3: Yes, your other kids. Cherry still out, Valerie gets out
of the park, Polly, we love your pancakes. Athena, you're
a great dancer.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: You got a lot of names. Oh no, a lot
of kids. Brandy's got all the names. H Jacob, you're growley. Sorry,
but you are Sandra.
Speaker 2: It's not easy being green Ashley or chik Su. We
love your cal Zones, Renee, we love your husband Ted Copple,
Just Picky Moll. That's it.
Speaker 3: Yes, So my twins, who you may know is Sadian
Xander Betsy Triple B would be so angry with me
right now.
Speaker 2: Please stop. Do not refer to them as twins.
Speaker 1: Give them their own day.
Speaker 3: And their own identity. It's never refer to them as
the twins. Yes, guess what though they are they're twins.
There's two of them, spoil same birthday, and they're okay with.
Speaker 1: That, right.
Speaker 2: They get they already have their own identity. Are they
arguing with Betsy Brown Brown right now?
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be bothering with her. You'll give our own
parenting advice.
Speaker 2: The anti advice.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Anyway, they culminated from the eighth grade right, probably worst
school year of their lives. Big mistake. So a lot
of our audience has coached me along the way. You know,
Sadie's been a school hater from a young age. I
would say Sadie started really disliking school around second grade. Yeah,
and that's when I got her like tested for iep
and then she had an IEP, but it was very,
very limited IEP for a little while. Then she graduated
out of it in fifth grade.
Speaker 2: All this is to say that.
Speaker 3: A lot of our school ideas were a little bit
of a crapshoot because it was like, Okay, I don't
know where to send her for middle school. They did
not want to go to a big school, so I
opted to send them to the school that was the
one you move on to from the elementary school. But
it was on a different location, a lot of different kids.
It was not great. And then I had a lot
of our audience saying, stop, send.
Speaker 2: Them to the local big school. They're going to find
their people. Send them to the big school. They said,
they'll find their friends.
Speaker 1: They said, yeah.
Speaker 3: So I did not follow that advice at the time,
right before COVID, and moved them to another small independent charter,
which was actually pretty great. That's where Xander Metlila Crocodile,
I hate Sadie had a few friends there. But then
COVID a week later. They basically did that school online.
When it came back in person, the principal had left,
the vice principal had left, like a lot of the
people that we loved gone.
Speaker 2: So that's when I.
Speaker 3: Was like, you know, maybe those fcol people were onto something.
And I sent them to the big public school. And
it's been a fucking unmitigated disaster. Do you remember?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: But they finally graduated, and I gotta tell you, the
graduation was such a shit show. First of all, it
was burning heat. They did it first thing in the morning,
a lot of kids because guess but it's a huge school,
tons of kids, none of them do I know. I
don't know any of the parents there, nor do I
want to meet any of them.
Speaker 2: Like it's and.
Speaker 3: First of all, there's so many like speeches, right, you
know the thing it's say, eighth grade. You know my
thing about that, right, It's like, it's pretty hard to
not graduate from eighth grade, right, I don't think you're
allowed to. I think I think Xander told me that
you can't repeat. So once you finished eighth grade, it's automatic.
You're out of middle school, no matter what you do.
Maybe you have to take.
Speaker 2: Some summer school classes.
Speaker 3: I don't fucking know, but it's not such a huge accomplishment.
You finished a year, you know, you did, you did that.
You went to school enough that you didn't drop out. Okay,
that's all we need like a hundred speeches now in
the heat. So they do it in the morning, so
we all had to get their first thing in the morning.
There's a huge line, like a like around the block.
Speaker 2: To get in.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a massive operation. Like we're sitting in folding
chairs that are way towards the back. Because even we
thought we got there early, we got there like a
hot oh like forty minutes early. Really we still Yeah,
these people take it. So what is wrong with people?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They come, they've got like noise makers. They're like like
when they're when ah yeah ya ya yaie, I missed it,
like eighth grade.
Speaker 1: We didn't do it, oh COVID, Yeah you're lucky. We
did it online.
Speaker 2: Massive balloons you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, and all the kids are walking around these freaking
money like money lays like Hawaiian lays, but they're all
made they're made of dollars, like they're ordering. These people
are special ordering shit like gotta be like a year
in advance, right, like for this big day, save a
for their college gradu Yeah, you know that's an accomplishment,
Like you did something, yes, Okay, so I'm already as
you can tell, like I don't want to go, and
honest to God, I'm like, do they do?
Speaker 2: Say the insaner even want me to.
Speaker 3: Don't worry? I went, John went. We went, But there
was a part of me that was like, do they care?
I know, if we're there to see them, like walk
across the stage and get there, they probably maybe wouldn't
have cared, but the there's the distant possibility that they.
Speaker 4: Would, and we wouldn't risk that, so of course we
wouldn't even probably want to be there themselves.
Speaker 3: No, they did not, but whatever, Okay, so we go.
There's speeches, there's songs. Somebody has some you know, these
kids are saying the one girl saying brave.
Speaker 2: I want to see you be brave.
Speaker 3: You know, somebody saying like the national anthem. There isn't
this a fucking god? How long was it couple over
two hours?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so then they do all that, then it's
time to read the names, right, Sadie and Xander were
almost dead last because they were going by the homeroom
teacher's last name, and their homeroom teacher is the math teacher.
Speaker 3: I don't like that I call Zippity doo dah. Yes,
z Zippity DooDah, mister Zippity Dodah. So he's like, oh,
so we're sitting John and I were losing our minds.
But I did have my phone, so I was like
basically scrolling Facebook almost the whole time, and it was
so crowded and like nobody knew. But also I don't
know anybody there, right, right, So it ends Sadie and
Xander get their thing and then they come find us.
Speaker 1: Now, did they call them one after another?
Speaker 4: Like who went first one at a time? No, Like
let's say, oh.
Speaker 3: I think Xander went first, and then Sadie I don't
even remember, but they went after another in a row.
And then uh, you know they said the twins. No
they didn't, they said their names. Okay, So then they're
all of a sudden, you know, this is this thing
takes forever to get started, right, It's just so like
I said, it's humongous. All of a sudden though, they're
in a big hurry for everybody to get the fuck out.
Oh you know what I mean, Like they're like, oh,
we were conducting school today. Hey, here's an idea why
don't you do the graduation after school?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in the evening, like normal people do it
when it starts cooling down, Like what kind of thinking
was this to do it at eight in the morning.
So it starts at eight thirty. So now it's like
ten thirty. Now they're in a mad rush for everybody
to leave. But they even had brought out, like Xander
was really thirsty. We go to find there's a little
table where they have some refreshments. They're already boxing it
all up. It was like seven minutes after the thing end.
Xander's like, can I can I get a soda? And
they're like, sorry, we're putting everything away, right, Okay, then
do you remember so do you remember when I was
trying to get Xander like a better situation in pe
because he didn't want to change in the locker room,
and it became I think I might have read this
on Patreon or the main show, the back and forth
I had with the principal, and she was just like,
we really care about our LGBT kids and their the
gender neutral bathroom. They shut it down.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a whole thing. And the principal was trying
her best. She was a nice person. But then I
told you about this vice principal who was such a
biach and remember that. So I had finished talking to
the principle, they showed me where Xander could change, and
then she introduces me.
Speaker 2: This is missus let's call her missus grab Bag. She's like,
this is missus grab Bag.
Speaker 3: She's gonna and Missus grab Bag was like, first of all,
no offense, but missus grab Bag was clearly a member
of the LGBT, like of all fucking people who should
have had some like empathy. Yes, this woman clearly had
faced some oppression in her life.
Speaker 2: Let's just let's just say that. So you think she
would just I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, she's going to be a little more empathetic, right,
just based yes, based on the way she presented. I
was like, okay, I got an ally like, you know, no,
she was a compollebiac. And she was like, well, if
he doesn't like it, if he does, I said, well,
you know.
Speaker 2: We were trying to arrange for somewhere for him to change, and.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, he's going to have to change in
the bathrooms, in these public bathrooms. And I was like okay,
but like here's what I'm trying to explain the problem.
And she goes and I go, okay, because like there's
been times where I just don't want to make him
change because it's kind of traumatic for him.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, he's going to have to change.
Speaker 3: She goes, that's not acceptable, and I go, well, it's
going to have to be accept it is what it is,
Like I'm not going to traumatize him, but well and
she goes, well, if he doesn't change, then he's going
to fail.
Speaker 2: He's going to fail. Is that what you want?
Speaker 3: Like that's how she was talking to me, oh, because
she said because she said, I'll talk to him and
tell him he has to change in this one area.
And I was like, okay, well, well, oh I know
that this outside and I said, well, let's see how
he feels, right, And then she was like basically going
it doesn't matter, like that's what he's going to do,
and if he doesn't like it, he's going to fail.
Speaker 2: And I was like Jesus, okay.
Speaker 3: So I was irritated anyway, So I couldn't wait to
point her out to John because I was because so
she comes up to us, and she comes up to
you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she comes up to us.
Speaker 3: We're standing so we're we're trying to corral Xanderander said, So, Xander,
we text Sadie where she is, and we were standing
by this classroom and we've got we've waiting for Xander.
Speaker 2: We're waiting for Sadie.
Speaker 3: Xander had gone to get Sadie and we were meeting
back at this spot. This lady, miss grab bag, comes
up to us. I'd already pointed her out to John.
I was like, that's the beauch and she she walks over,
and I was half expecting her to say, like, oh,
I hope everything worked out. I hope it was a
good year for your kids. No, she's like, you need
to we need to clear the camp. You need to
clear the campus. Yet like in our face, like, hey,
you need to go, you need to go.
Speaker 2: We're trying to clear the campus.
Speaker 3: And oh my god, John thought I was going to
fight her, because you know, like, listen, bitch, now, it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. My kids are never gonna
have to see your stupid ass.
Speaker 2: Again, Like, don't try me.
Speaker 3: So I just stand there and John knows what's up, right,
and I just look at her and I was like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will, we will. We're waiting for our kid.
Speaker 3: And she goes, well, oh, I go we're waiting for
Xander or something, and she goes and then and then
Xander just then I go, oh, I see I see
him now, so we'll be leaving.
Speaker 2: And then so Xander comes up and.
Speaker 3: She goes, okay go and I said, god, I go, well,
we can't leave just yet because we're waiting for other kids.
Speaker 2: She starts fucking arguing with me, and then she was like,
you have to leave. It's time to go. And I said, well,
I'm not leaving now. I'm mad. I go, well, we're
not going to leave without our other kid, so you're
just gonna have to wait a minute.
Speaker 3: And John was like, you go girl. John did not care.
He was just like And then later he goes, I thought.
Speaker 1: You guys were going to find I love.
Speaker 3: It because I was just standing my ground. I was
just looking her straight in the face because now because
I couldn't be mean to her, I couldn't I couldn't
really argue with her the first time because I was
depending on her to make things comfortable for my kid,
which she never fucking did. And at the end, and
Xander got a U in pe because he had to
refuse to change for a lot of times, looking because
there were a bunch of kids in there, because they
were giving him a hard time because they were like
shaking the stall when he was trying to change, and
they were going, yeah, So I didn't. I told him,
don't change when you're feeling uncomfortable. If that's going on,
don't change. I was like, Okay, I won't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, oh my god, this is the vice principle.
Speaker 3: What you know, there's a bunch at these big schools,
there's this is the vice principal who's in charge of
like she's not even the disciplinarian, by the way, they
have another one they have it. There's a there's a
vice principal who's like the deep dean or in charge
of discipline.
Speaker 2: It's not even her. She's just cunting out on for
no rea just because personality.
Speaker 1: Ah, what a miserable bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So she kind of stood there for a minute staring me,
and I just stared back at her, and I was like,
I go, I don't know what to tell you. And
then just then Sadie walked up and I was like Okay,
we're leaving now.
Speaker 1: I would have told her fuck off.
Speaker 2: I so badly wanted to take.
Speaker 1: The rest of the day off late and go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have told her to look into some pellets.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's I hate when your kids are around. You
want to say something, but you don't because of the kids.
But if they weren't around.
Speaker 2: They would have been tortured by that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, So that was that. Oh so, so what
are your summer What are Natalia and Sunday summer plans? Well,
Natalia's doing the volleyball.
Speaker 4: Volleyball oh now, and now it's like the school's one
is starting up like in a month.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're starting in like July, like mid July. Yeah, practices.
Speaker 2: So she missed a lot of the school.
Speaker 4: She didn't miss any of the school. She missed a
lot of her club. Yeah, and her club is having
the tournament, which I'm gonna have to break the news
to her and tell her that we're not going to
the tournament. I don't think she's going to be playing.
I the she's not going to the practices. She's been
going to the practices, but then she's missing practices. She's
too behind, and I'm not going to go all that
way to sit there just so she can socialize and like,
you know, yeah, yeah, I feel you to talk to
her about that. But she is going to be starting
the school one soon anyway. She wants to get a job,
which I appreciate, so I don't know. We'll see if
she can get a job for the summer. Maybe, but
summer's only like two months.
Speaker 2: I know it's short soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think it's shortened because of COVID because
they lost time to now they're trying to get some
time back.
Speaker 1: Maybe it sucks.
Speaker 4: Sonny is going planning on going to Denver with his
dad next week and but wants to come back now
early because it's his best friend Hendrik's birthday party and
he doesn't want to miss that. Okay, a kid that
invites him to all these trips. And now he's talking
about going to Greece. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know,
we'll see. But again he wants me to text the dad.
It's like, what can't the dad text me?
Speaker 1: I don't want to. It's weird that I got to
text the dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah and go Hey, were you thinking about taking my
child on an international vacation?
Speaker 1: Like I told this the sonny. I was like, this
is weird. Can he text me? Now? We already talked
about this, mom, just text him. He's waiting for you
to tell I'm like, oh, all right, so did you
not yet? I'm going I will. I know I should,
I need to.
Speaker 2: This is what's happened to my parenting in the last
I don't say the last year. Maybe it's it's.
Speaker 3: A lot of like, oh my god, I'm told yes,
I need to text that person.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know a month later? Did you ever? Did
you find out about the blah blah blah?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I'm gonna this morning. I am going
to set that up.
Speaker 2: This is what I do.
Speaker 3: Sadie goes, I really want guitar lessons. She wants an actual,
in person guitar lessons. Not a huge ask, you know,
Xander himself to play like he's some kind of guitar phenom.
But you know, God forbid, I should ask Xander to
teach Sadie how to play him.
Speaker 2: Not going to do that. So Sadie wants actual guitar lessons,
which is such a positive thing. I'm like, oh, she
wants to play guitar. The high school they're going to
go to has like a really great music program. Yeah,
and they can like be in a band and they
can like they can play an instrument. So she wants
to play.
Speaker 3: She's like, when I go to school, I want to
be able to like play guitar.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, I can see Sadie like playing at
coffee shops with a guitar and stuff like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like a singer songwriter.
Speaker 2: Super positive that she wants to do that. Have I
gotten on it? No? I haven't.
Speaker 3: Every time she brings it up, I go, yes, I
am on it, and then I just it goes out
of my brain.
Speaker 2: That's the problem with being and I do it to
all the kids right now.
Speaker 3: You can you make sure you do until I'm like
up against it and it's always like.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I got it.
Speaker 3: I need Albie's COVID tests for her to go to camp. Okay,
all right, yeah I didt me call around.
Speaker 2: And then LB will be like, mom, did you find
a place to do my COVID test that we get
the results in time? Yes?
Speaker 1: How do you feel like I know when they call
you out on it.
Speaker 2: You were supposed to call.
Speaker 4: Like, all right, it'll be a nack. Don't shame me now,
I know Sonny wants to do improv now him and
his friend.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, cute.
Speaker 1: He had his uh what was it for? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Friday, he was hanging out with his friends and he
texts me, can we come over and go swimming? I'm like,
of course, you know, to come home and go swimming.
They went swimming, and then they.
Speaker 1: Were in the house. I walk in the house.
Speaker 4: They're playing pool and they're listening to I see the
playlist on the thing and they're listening to like Bobby Darren,
like Dean Martin well in a Martin Scorse movie.
Speaker 1: Here, what's going on? Why are you?
Speaker 2: And he's like, you know, because him and his friend.
Speaker 1: I know, it's so sunny.
Speaker 4: And his friend Cam has the same taste as Sonny
with movies and music.
Speaker 1: Wow, like they love. And then she kissed me. You
know that song from The Good Fellow.
Speaker 4: You know they get it from all the soundtracks of
the movies.
Speaker 3: They no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no.
Speaker 1: No yes that's it.
Speaker 4: And it's in the scene and Goodfellas when their walk
it's like that one long scene as they walk.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm locking in and they're like bye the sea,
you know, like wow, okay. But yeah, so him and
his friend Cam won it. He just told me this
last night. They want to look for improv classes. So
I'm gonna have to look for that. But and he
wants a job, but he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So my neighbor, remember my neighbor who cute, Yeah, neighbor
who has like a girl, He has a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: So sorry, when it's okay, his studio does improv classes,
so I can that's right there in the studio.
Speaker 4: I knew you were gonna have you gave me a
plumber last episode.
Speaker 1: They're in Studio City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Studio City. But they do lots of those kind
of classes.
Speaker 2: They do like camps, like they do movie making one,
they do filmmaking. They do a filmmaking one where they
all make a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's nice.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'd like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna I'll send you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kaitlin, didn't you do improv with us when we
got the improv coach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally. I remember doing improv with everybody and Sonny included.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 4: We had an improv coach come a long time ago
to do improv with, like.
Speaker 2: I remember Ray me, but then Ray wouldn't wasn't really
doing it right.
Speaker 1: Well now Ray was sorry. Ray wasn't in.
Speaker 5: Our I don't remember Ray being there.
Speaker 4: No, it started because of Ray getting fired for not
to IV classes. Okay, and then like all the guys
like Matt and like Kaylin and Chris, Chris, Chris Maxipaty. Yeah,
so we've got like a guy to come like on
you know, one night during the week and we would
do it.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It's it's not my scene.
Speaker 2: But I don't love I don't like improv at all.
I know. It was my least favorite thing about.
Speaker 1: My dad tried to put me in improv classes. I
hated it.
Speaker 4: It just was like I was I never wanted to
be like up in the front of the class, like
I just was not just not my thing. Like same
with auditions and stuff, you know, like to go on
auditions and slate your name and you're at you know,
blah blah, blah, and who's your agent? Now do the
cold read, you know, with the you know, read the
sides and cold reading, and it just was like not
my thing.
Speaker 1: I just didn't it wasn't my I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I'm too self conscious, and I I'm always worried about
I was so you know, I have like a weird
thing with the way I walk, like my had to
sway back and pigeon toed when I was little, and
I was so painfully self conscious of how I walked.
And I remember I had to take I took this
acting class, and I believe I was kind of looking
forward to it. And then on the first day of
the class, they made everybody get up and walk across
the room because they wanted to talk about the way
your walk and what your walk like says about you.
Speaker 2: And I've never and I to this day, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if I've ever felt that profoundly uncomfortable, because
it was the word the thing I was the most
self conscious about that I got teased, relentlessly bullied in
all grades for the way I walked. And there here
I was, and I remember that I tried to tell
the teacher, like I don't I think I didn't. I
refuse to do it, and then I refuse to ever
go back wow to the acting class. Something about that
experience sort of held over to like any time, like
you're I'd never like the improv part where like you're
expected to step forward and like you know, their play
freeze tag and they're doing something and then they freeze
and then you're supposed to go and cut in and
then make it a different scene, right, And I'm always
like not making it a different scene, like I'm not
gonna be able to think, and you have to walk
out first and then hope you come up with something.
Speaker 2: I know, Like that's not how I like to do things.
I don't have to hope for the best. I know,
you know, I'm more like planned for the worst.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm not like I'm not walking out there and
then possibly just going like I got nothing.
Speaker 1: Right, but I think you could do it now though, right?
Speaker 2: No, I hate like much older I did do improv
classes and that was the least I was like, what
am I doing?
Speaker 3: I'm not, this isn't for me, right, because they are
you have to walk out and like just yeah, be funny.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I hate I did not.
Speaker 4: When I was younger, I was like painfully shy like
with that in that way, I just did not want
to be like stuck in a situation where I had
to come up with right, like you know, a scenario
or a scene and stuff. And then like but then
when we were talking about doing it here, I was
like I would think to myself like, oh God, and
I thought, oh, maybe well now that I'm older and
I'm with a group that I feel comfortable with your
friends yeaheah, yeah, but not in front of a class.
Speaker 2: But what if you were just with strangers?
Speaker 1: Right? No?
Speaker 2: I The thing is, I always.
Speaker 3: Think that people assume that you think you're pretty good
at improv. Like if you're doing improv right, like say
you're our age, people are going to be like, oh,
like that person's really good at improv, right, And then
and then you're like, no, I really don't so what
I'm here.
Speaker 2: And then everyone's doing like an Irish brogue and you're
like just talking regular voice.
Speaker 4: Like a Southern accent mixed with like Australian.
Speaker 2: Like that's how I was. I told you that. My
improv teacher literally said to me.
Speaker 3: The reason basically that the that I'm a funny person,
but I only ever do myself, like I can't, I
have no ability. They noticed that I had no ability
to do any characters, no character work, Like I was
never like I'm a priest, like I was just like me,
like doing my voice, just trying to tell jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he was like, I don't know if improv is
for you, and I was like, I think you're right.
And that was when I decided to be stand up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stand up to me sounds.
Speaker 2: Way worse, which was also not really for me.
Speaker 1: Was scary.
Speaker 4: I could do voice, I could mimic people like are teachers.
I was always making fun of the teachers that we had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good voices.
Speaker 4: But like I, but but when you do when you
imitate somebody, you got to have what they would say
ready to go.
Speaker 1: That's where their improv comes from.
Speaker 4: Like you can't just be like, you know, imitating Roseanne,
Rosanna Dana and like you know, but not have anything
to say, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you are good at that.
Speaker 3: You do do that, you do do Roseanne Rosanna Dana,
and you come up with funny stuff.
Speaker 4: No, because I remember her act because I used to imitate,
like when you go like, uh, she was talking about
I was just thinking about this. Uh what's her name, Joyce,
doctor Joyce Brothers. Did you see anybody that doesn't know
what we're talking about? You got to look her up.
It's it's Gilda Radner doing this character ones now. But
she was saying. She was saying like how she was
in a sweat. She was at the gym and she
went into one of these saunas. And I was sitting
in the sauna and it was, oh steamy. And I
look across the room and I think to myself, Hey,
that's doctor Joyce Brothers. That's doctor Joyce Brothers doing in
a sauna. And then I'm looking at her and going, hey,
she's got this little steam a sweat the.
Speaker 1: Hanging off her nose.
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, doctor Joyce Brothers, flip that
sweatball off your nose.
Speaker 2: What are you trying to do? It make me sick.
Speaker 1: But I memorized all that.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know.
Speaker 4: That's like but you can't, like, you know, I'm always
amazed when you hear like somebody like I don't know
some of the guys that do imitations that are on
Adams show that do like immediately they go into Bill
Maher and they talk like Bill Maher and what Bill
Maher would say, And then they immediately go into Joe
Biden and they talk about you know, like those kinds
those are real.
Speaker 3: Right, I do not have that skill at all, like
at all. You know, you just have to know your
own limitations, yea. And my thing about stand up was
always like I think I had funny jokes, but I
am self conscious enough that I would worry every time, like,
you know, I think this is a funny joke. It
has worked with audiences, but what if today's the day
it does.
Speaker 1: Not work right?
Speaker 3: And you know, you have to go out there and
you have to tell the joke perfectly because as a
stand up, if you trip over a.
Speaker 2: Word, it ruins the touchline. And then I would always
feel like, oh my god, I lost the crowd, like
that said, they don't like me anymore. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would just get nervous, so nervous every
time I was these other comedians that could like stand
there right, like when you do stand up, so you
know where you are in the lineup, Like so let's
say the person who goes on before you is just
finishing up. I would that would be the time that
I would just be like sweating balls.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh god, I have to go on.
Speaker 3: And you'd see these other comedians not doesn't even matter
if they were good or bad, just other people that
were so comfortable that would just be like backstage having
a conversation with you, and then their name would be
called and then they'd walk out and start doing their act. Yeah,
I needed like three days to prepare, like repeat the
first line.
Speaker 2: I was always like, oh, I'm going to forget the
first joke? How do I get every time?
Speaker 3: Even after I'd been doing it like fifteen years, right,
it never got better.
Speaker 2: I never felt better. Remember I used to tell you like,
oh my god, I have to go do this gig,
Like can you add adam to give me advice? Like
I have to do six minutes? And I'd be like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's nerve racking. I don't know how you guys.
I don't know how you do stand up.
Speaker 2: That's two.
Speaker 4: Remember when we went I would get nervous when we
would do our show and stuff in front of for
crying out loud people or even just like the zoom
sometimes you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, ever, and Kaylin did stand up for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kaylin, So you know, you know what it's like
to do stand up scary, right.
Speaker 5: It is very scary. And I have two experiences doing
stand up. The first time was in San Francisco when
we did it for the for Crying Out Loud audience
and it went very well. And then so I was
kind of all hot on, like, oh, I'm good at this,
I'm gonna do this or whatever. And then so I
was doing Joe Coy's podcast and it was a few
months after that, and we were doing like some contest
me and Chris Loximan and we're gonna go down and
we're going to open for Joe Coy at Irvine I
think it was Irvine, huh and that, and so I
was pretty confident that I'd be doing all right. And
it did not go nearly as well as the I
think that for Client Loud audience kind knew me a
little bit. So yeah, the Joe Koy audience did not
know me. I did not get any laughs, and I
was like, Okay, I think I think that's for my
stand up career. I wrapped it up.
Speaker 2: After that one, and Chris did it too.
Speaker 5: No, we were going to do a thing where it
was me and Chris and one other guy and it
was going to be like, whoever pulls the short straw
is going to be, you know, the one that has
to do the stand up act. But Chris got another
gig at the last minute, so and Joe was doing
two shows. So me and the other guys was like,
all right, and so you just have to do it now.
And I was like, okay, I'll do it like I'm down.
I practiced and everything, and then I got up there
and yeah, I just I've got like maybe one kind
of chuckle laugh in five minutes.
Speaker 3: The bombing and stand up is one of one of
the worst feelings that you will ever feel. It's just
it I can't even imagine like such rejection. And it
feels like a rejection of just like who you are
as a person, because it's not just like it's that
you wrote the jokes, like there's no one to blame
it on it, right, like singing or singing someone else's
song like it is you, and and ever you feel
like everybody knows that I was at some point in
my house or somewhere thinking of this joke, and in
my mind, I thought, like, this is a funny joke.
This is such a funny joke that I'm going to
go tell this to a lot of people and expect
them to laugh. And people are like, no, that was
not a funny joke, and you're not a funny person,
and like you can't help but just feel like it. Yeah,
And I lose hope really fast, Like if I'm bombing.
Speaker 2: There are comics that can like kind of start bonding
and take a little while and then they just get them,
you know, then they just keep going. I'm gonna keep going. Person,
I'm like, a, I just I'm done, Like I want
to quit. Like then I'm just saying the words. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Is that like some of the comedians go and work
things out, you know, like you think, you know, like
Jerry Seinfeld's Jerry Seinfeld, but he'll show up on a
Tuesday night at the Improv to work as jokes before
he goes and does his big theater tour.
Speaker 3: But see to me, Tuesday night at the Improv still
felt like the biggest show ever. Like I could never
get into the headspace of like, oh, this is just
a Tuesday night show, so I'm just gonna work out
some new material. To me, it was terrifying even to
do one new joke because what if that what if
that one joke wasn't funny, and then everybody was not
interested in They were all decided, oh, nevermind, she's not funny, right,
that's how But but I have a weird black and
white thinking brain. Yeah, so I could never relax enough
to just go, oh, it doesn't really matter, these people
don't care. Also, Jerry Seinfeld's Jerry Seinfeld, so like people
are even if they they're gonna know he's working out
stuff and they're gonna be thrilled just.
Speaker 2: That he's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes a lot of confidence to not be
Jerry Seinfeld and just go up and try out a
bunch of jokes.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, oh my god, not for me.
Speaker 2: Well it really wasn't for me either.
Speaker 3: So as soon as I got a job writing on
a show, I was like, this is all the fun
of stand up, minus the like I still got to
write jokes, but somebody else got to say them yea.
And I felt so much more confident because because of
having the years of stand up behind me, I was
like oh, I know. I can pretty much tell you
how a joke works and whether something's going to be funny.
So I would have all the confidence of, like, I'm
going to give this joke to this person and it's
going to do great, it's going to kill but I
don't have to do it. Yeah, that's on the off
off chances it's not funny.
Speaker 2: This person takes the risk the show host, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Then if a joke really doesn't work whatever, But if
a joke really kills, then you're like.
Speaker 1: That was mine.
Speaker 4: Yeah right here? Yeah, yeah. Did you are you watching?
Did you finish watching the Teal Swan documentary?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Just yeah, what we were talking about the Teal Swan
Teal Swan finished that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't that last episode?
Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, I've talked about this on my
other podcast, but the she has been doing these answer videos.
I when on there and I saw, Yes, it's so
she's so defensive and it doesn't so okay.
Speaker 2: Teal Swan we talked about her last week.
Speaker 3: Is this like self help guru type lady who has
had some memories come back to her with the help
of the quack therapist that she was a victim of
like satanic rituals and you know, I don't know, abuse,
abuse and for years, and that the person who abused
her killed children in front of her. Like it's a
lot of craziness that was uncovered in her memory. And
this same therapist uncovered weirdly, the exact same memories in
other people and now till Swan helps people uncover memories. Meanwhile,
she's kind of a mean bully. And this guy that
has been her like business partner, was originally her boyfriend,
but then there are business partners for years and years
and years left with his girlfriend from Germany. Well he
married her, and TiAl Swan clearly hated this girl, found
her to be like a romantic rival right from the
get go.
Speaker 2: From the get go, I didn't even give her a chance.
So she did this.
Speaker 3: Thing where she had like everybody sit around in a
circle in front of the girl.
Speaker 1: Which is classic cult.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, when they get you in the embarrassing
you and calling you out in front of the group
and stuff like it's so cultish, ye you know, yes.
Speaker 3: So they had everybody, they had everybody go around the
circle and talk about what this what they think this
girl thinks of teal Swan, So TiAl Swan's trying to
get rid of this girl.
Speaker 2: So she's like, well, what do you think? What do
you think she thinks of me? And one by one it.
Speaker 3: Just gets worse and worse worth They're like, oh, I
think she's very jealous of you and like hates you
because you're so beautiful, and you know, the next person's like,
I think she wishes you would die because you're so
amazing that it'll be more room at the top for her,
like you know, And then Teal's just sitting back like.
Speaker 4: Right, and she's writing it down and stuff. She is
so just how do these people just sit there and
like fall for it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: So then Teal go goes tells the girl like listen,
you know you're my enemy basically, so what are what
are we going to do about this? Like you're out
to get me, You're trying you want to bring me down.
Speaker 2: You hate me? Now what are we going to do
about it?
Speaker 3: So basically the girl now has to leave, right, So
she goes back to Germany and she takes the got
her husband with her. So teal Swan loses her ship
and is like fuck him, he's against me.
Speaker 2: I hate him, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's horrible, like and and at one point she
says something like that she hopes like does she say
she wishes the girl would die or something really bad?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I know, she says, if my followers knew what she did,
they'd they'd try to say with her, yes, that's right, okay,
So I say I say all that because she does
these vis where she's like, oh my god, this is
all untrue. All of this was taken out of context.
For one thing, when I smiled at what was happening
that I was smiling at a totally different time. Meanwhile,
she never answers like, okay, but you literally said the
words my followers would want that person.
Speaker 2: Dead, right, Well, you didn't answer to that.
Speaker 3: You didn't talk at all about the fact that you
put everyone in a circle to break this girl and
bully her. She never answers any of the biggest things
that she did that are in the documentary.
Speaker 2: It's all the little things. So there you go. The
whole thing's fake because.
Speaker 4: Oh, when I asked a question to the audience and
everybody raised their hand, that was from another time, Like
what does that have to do with you being a
fucking psycho bully, you know. And I how about the
private investigator that she hired? I know, and like she
I can't tell if she likes the fact that calling
her that she's this cult person or she hates it.
I can't tell, because you got to think like she's
got some kind of I'm sure she's got some kind
of ego that's like, oh, people think I'm you know, like,
so people are in love with me so much that
they're calling me a cult leader, you know, like does that?
Speaker 3: Well the thing that I think is so funny about
that is so the lady the private investigator goes to
give TiAl Swan the report and she's like, listen, do
I think you're.
Speaker 1: A causing people to commit suicide? No?
Speaker 2: I don't do I think that this could be classified
as a cult. Yes I do. Okay.
Speaker 3: So, and so teal Swan's doing her video where she's
so basically in the documentary, they make it very very
clear that teal Swan hired the private investigator, right, and
now they're not going to use the report because the
investigators like, well, she hired me, So I feel bad
having to tell her. I can't tell her what she
wants to hear, and they're never going to use the
report because it doesn't fit. So Teal Swan's doing her
answer video that you can find on YouTube, and she's like, Okay,
one thing that I think is so crazy that everybody thinks,
like the private investigator, we hired her, not the film crew,
not an outside person.
Speaker 2: We hired her.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, first of all, yeah, we know that
nobody's trying to cover that up.
Speaker 2: And second of all, it makes it worse.
Speaker 3: The person you hired to prove that the cult leader
is saying you're a cult leader.
Speaker 2: What's in it for her? You're the one paying her,
which is even it's like Trump like hiring the own lawyers,
and the own lawyers going like, sorry, you are guilty,
and then Trump going I hired that lawyer. Yeah, so
that makes it ten times worse.
Speaker 3: But that person's willing to come out and say like, yeah,
you are running a cult, right. I know you paid
me to uncover the fact that you're not, but you are.
Speaker 2: I'm like this, how does she not realize that?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 4: No, That's what I can't She's smart, is she doesn't
get it, Like I don't know I don't know what
she goes through her brain.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's smart, so weird, so crazy.
Speaker 2: So I heard and this is not like.
Speaker 3: Special tea that I only heard, but John got super
into this, yeah, and did like a deep dive. Yeah
what he goes down like a rabbit hole and this
kind of stuff. So he said that there's an ex
boyfriend of hers ex, you know, one of many, many
many who was he's in the documentary and he's got
like long hair that's kind of like bleached on top,
and they show him sitting in front of like a
big like editing bay. I think he did some work
for til Swan. That guy did a bunch of videos
about till Swan and his experience and said that her
whole thing is that she just wants to create all
these romantic rivals. She has like many boyfriends that time,
and she likes to have like really loud, rough sex
in earshot of other guys that she's with. Like, so
she's basically will have a guy who's her boyfriend or husband,
and then get a new boyfriend, like and then make
the husband or boyfriend sleep in another room but right
next door, and then have like super loud, crazy sex
so that everybody and she does it so that like
everybody in the house can hear Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, wow. Yeah, I could tell that she's a little
freaky deeky.
Speaker 4: I don't know, And is she I'm wondering, like does
she have a substance problem?
Speaker 1: Do you think like do you think she's got on pills?
I don't know. Like I start to think, like what
is the deal?
Speaker 4: Like I would love to like just yeah, go down
a rabbit hole and figure out what is Like, Yeah,
and she's got this house where everybody lives there and stuff,
and I'm thinking, how does she afford all this? Does
she really make that much money where she can house
a bunch of people and pay like I don't know.
Speaker 3: The other thing that was really funny too, was that
so there's this scene where all the people that like
work with her where she's like, okay, uh huh, this girl,
Germany girl was against me and we have to get
rid of her. So we need to brainstorm. Well, first
of all, there's this whole list of things that they're
not allowed to do, Like they can't have personal boundaries, right,
they can't like like can't look her directly in the eye,
like they can't challenge her, they can't.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So she's like, we need to brainstorm like some rules
for working for me. So they're all like, okay, Well,
first of all, she's like, well, one thing I don't
want is people having kids, because like I am not
going to be woken up at three in the morning
from a crying baby. So okay, add that to the list,
like no kid, Like, if you're gonna work for me,
you can't have kids. So then when she does the answer.
Speaker 2: Video, she it seems such a lie.
Speaker 3: So in her in her video, she's like, Okay, first
of all, uh, yeah, we made a bunch of those rules,
but like, yeah, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2: Some of them.
Speaker 4: Listen, we were brainstorming, right. That wasn't the official they
were coming up with, that's right. She said they were
coming up with it, not me. They they came, yeah,
it wasn't me.
Speaker 3: Like I'm cool, Like, if you want to have kids,
that's totally fine, Like just don't live in the house
with me, right, you know, But if you want to kids,
I'm not going to tell you to not have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did. She was like, I don't want any
babies around right now.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: But all those rules, the crazy, crazy rules that are
all illegal. She was like, yeah, that wasn't me, that
was they were just we were just brainstorming.
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 2: I want to know.
Speaker 1: So, where's this guy's video, the guy with the long hair?
You can find.
Speaker 2: I'll put it.
Speaker 3: I will get John to tell me and link it
to the fcol cage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he found all He was just sending me
video after video of like deep dive.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to see.
Speaker 4: So the other documentary I watched after that because I
was like, I watched Keep Sweet.
Speaker 1: Did you watch that?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it? The Wayne Jefferies one Warren jeff
It's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. How many episodes is that one?
Speaker 1: It's four parts? Okay, hmm, it's all up.
Speaker 2: I'm liking a four part doc Yeah me too. I
love it.
Speaker 1: It's perfect up on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I'm almost through with Are you done with Ozark?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, I'm halfway through season four now?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm almost Oh, you're almost done? Yeah, okay, I'm
like on episode six.
Speaker 3: I think there's fourteen of the final season and you're
on episode six.
Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, Okay, it's really good.
Speaker 1: It is good. It is good. It's really good. I
miss it already.
Speaker 3: And the only reason why I gave it such a
chance is because you just kept talking about it. You
wore me down, and then I wore Jawn down. Yeah,
because remember I told you. John was like, Nope, I
don't want to watch it, and I was like, well,
all right, I'm gonna watch it on my own because
Lynette Kaylen said I have to.
Speaker 2: And then now he's into it.
Speaker 1: Good. Good, Yeah, I miss.
Speaker 2: But it's done after the season, right, Yes, I.
Speaker 4: Miss j I miss Jason Bateman, like he's not even
on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I guess I could listen to his podcasts.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just remartless.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I see if I saw a video
that's I don't know, came across on my Instagram at
him doing an interview about taking his daughter golfing or
something on an A late show. Anyway, I was watching
it was I was laughing. I'm like, eh, I miss Marty.
The fuck Marty.
Speaker 2: He seems great. Yeah, I like him a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, thanks Kank, Thanks Kleen, Thanks everybody.
Speaker 2: You're a parent. Now, don't have it up. It's good
letting good. All this money.