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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you're a gamester too. It takes out a tangle

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<v Speaker 1>you mess with mess with me, Baby, I'm a gangster too, Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>You're game statue.

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<v Speaker 2>For the warning.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast is designed to take you outside of your

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<v Speaker 3>comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener Discretion is a vibe talk with me fellas. This

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<v Speaker 2>ain't my first time.

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<v Speaker 3>At the rodeo.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Unfiltered

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<v Speaker 2>Rise with Me. He love, and today I have an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing friend of mine, Julia from the Cosmic Peach.

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing, girl, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited you're here. And when I heard this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I am such a lover of

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<v Speaker 2>Marylyn and as a nurse, your points are really great

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, I can see it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to ruin it for anybody, so I'm not gonna tell.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we get there, we get there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I think Julia figured it out on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I always really loved Marylyn too, and she's

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<v Speaker 4>so iconic for so many reasons. If you go to

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<v Speaker 4>like any makeup store anywhere like that, there's always like

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<v Speaker 4>a dedication to Marilyn, like Marilyn's slipstick, like the color red,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, eyeshadow palettes, t shirts, posters for your wall,

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<v Speaker 4>like she's still so iconic, and it's almost as if

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<v Speaker 4>she's more famous in death than she was in her life.

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<v Speaker 4>And when something like that it is the case, then

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<v Speaker 4>it's usually because they were some type of sacrificial lamb

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<v Speaker 4>to me, like Kurt Cobain, more famous in death than

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<v Speaker 4>in life. A lot of times when somebody dies a

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<v Speaker 4>tragic way, they're more famous in their death than they

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<v Speaker 4>were in their life, like twenty seven club kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I started looking at because on the surface level,

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of conspiracies about Marylyn just because

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<v Speaker 4>she was involved with both of the Kennedy brothers. I

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<v Speaker 4>think everybody can agree with that. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>substantial evidence to support that she was having an affair

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<v Speaker 4>with not only John F. Kennedy but Robert too. So

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<v Speaker 4>there are surface level conspiracies. But then besides, even like

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<v Speaker 4>the spiritual aspect of her death, there is so much

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<v Speaker 4>physical evidence that any doctor, like you said nurse could

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<v Speaker 4>look at and go, this isn't fucking adding up. This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't fucking right. And yet we're led to believe that

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<v Speaker 4>she was so depressed, and they love to do it

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<v Speaker 4>on Netflix too and HBO Max and like all these

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<v Speaker 4>movies that they put out about her, like she was

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<v Speaker 4>insanely depressed and she was on pills and she just

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<v Speaker 4>overdosed herself and she just couldn't do it anymore and

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<v Speaker 4>she just killed herself. And that's one hundred percent not

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<v Speaker 4>what happened. And I hope today that I can go

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<v Speaker 4>over some of the inconsistencies for everyone and prove that

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<v Speaker 4>Marilyn absolutely did not kill herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatso I would I would love to comment on that

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<v Speaker 2>and give you another case, honestly, and I'll even do

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<v Speaker 2>it with you if you want. But the girl from Poltergeist,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather Rourke, is another one. I'm like, that kid did

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<v Speaker 2>not die like they said, like that is a messed up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, of the they said she had a colon condition.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't that make you wonder? No, she literally died of constipation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like, oh, well, she had a condition

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<v Speaker 2>and it went undiagnosed. If your kid is in that

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<v Speaker 2>much pain, And it was truly like this twisted bow

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<v Speaker 2>conditioner or something something like don't you think you'd notice

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<v Speaker 2>as a parent, like what kind of people are they?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Way? Yeah, that's what yeah, yeah, And that's what I've

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<v Speaker 4>always said too, because there is that story about Heather

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<v Speaker 4>or Roarc that she was having to perform these like

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<v Speaker 4>John Bennet Ramsey esque like pageant shows and that they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing stuff to her like behind the scenes. So no,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think she died of a fucking colon condition.

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<v Speaker 2>They say that you creep picture yeah of Stevens. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>is there and she's on his lap, and it will

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent make you know that he's not right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred And I mean like they say because

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<v Speaker 4>in Poltergeist three she was getting kind of chunky, like

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<v Speaker 4>she looked a little bloated or swollen. That that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it was, that she had this colon condition. And dude,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're constipated, your whole fucking body doesn't swell up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, like your face and neck, Like when's

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<v Speaker 4>the last you're like, oh, I know, I got a

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<v Speaker 4>ship because my fucking neck is bloated, Like when's the

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<v Speaker 4>last time that's happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Unless she was freaking septic already. I mean I could

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<v Speaker 2>see if she was septic, but like just the pictures alone,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard the same thing as you about the

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<v Speaker 2>whole gen beneathing, and I was like, no, not not

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<v Speaker 2>buying it. No, She's like, yeah, like that other kid way.

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<v Speaker 4>If anything to me, not to like get too far

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<v Speaker 4>off the topic, but if anything, to me, she looked

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<v Speaker 4>like she was going through like a pre pubescent kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like weight change, you know, like she might may

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<v Speaker 4>have started yeah, like every kid around her age, no

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<v Speaker 4>matter how skinny you become later on in life. Like

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<v Speaker 4>look at the kid from stand by Me, you know

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<v Speaker 4>who I'm talking about. He's a little fact kid and

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<v Speaker 4>he turned out to be super fucking honest one, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was real buff and like lean and trim. So like,

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<v Speaker 4>if anything to me, she was going through like a

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<v Speaker 4>little chubby phase. And they were like, oh, well look

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<v Speaker 4>at her. She she got bloated and had this colon

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<v Speaker 4>and and that's you. And then she died and it's

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<v Speaker 4>like yeah, right, okay, well what about other stories where

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<v Speaker 4>you guys were doing stuff to her? You know? It

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<v Speaker 4>just yeah, But that's kind of like with Marilyn because

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<v Speaker 4>everybody says like she's a drug addict, and she takes

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<v Speaker 4>all these not not illegal drugs, but prescribed to her,

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<v Speaker 4>like she was a prescription drug addict, like she was

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<v Speaker 4>taking sleeping pills. And not to say that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>taking illegal drugs, but like the ones that they like

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<v Speaker 4>to blame on, this is prescription sleeping pills, that she

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<v Speaker 4>was addicted to them, that she fucking you know, would

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<v Speaker 4>just take handfuls of them. And again that is not

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<v Speaker 4>the case because as we'll get into the episode, she

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even have access to the amount of drugs that

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<v Speaker 4>eventually ended up killing her. And so I want to

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<v Speaker 4>just take it from the top. Actually, because her official

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<v Speaker 4>cause of death was acute barbituate poisoning. That is what

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<v Speaker 4>they say, that she took a lethal dose of sedative

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<v Speaker 4>drugs and she was found naked in her home in California.

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<v Speaker 4>They took pictures of her. That's how we know it's real, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because they took pictures of her, so that it must

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<v Speaker 4>be how they say it is because we got a picture.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they blasted her in the newspaper. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Marilyn dies of pills, and it was so very tragic

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<v Speaker 4>and for her to have lived her life as like

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<v Speaker 4>a sex symbol and as one of the most attractive

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<v Speaker 4>women alive. They really shamed her in her death. They

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<v Speaker 4>by taking nude photographs of her dead. Her face was

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<v Speaker 4>bloated and bruised, and I almost felt like it was

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of like dehumanize her in her death. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she's like a piece of garbage. We'll just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, take pictures of her all bruised and naked

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<v Speaker 4>and bloated. We'll put that in the newspaper, you know, married,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was part of maybe that was part of a humiliation ritual.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it it really is it really.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the wives would have been pissed, right, like if

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<v Speaker 2>what could you do for your wife? Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy person, so I wouldn't want this, but like

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<v Speaker 2>what would you do to make her happy? Like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>she's ugly now, right, Like she's not even hot, no.

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<v Speaker 4>And like everyone knew about marilynd Like she wouldn't leave

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the fucking mailbox without looking a certain way.

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<v Speaker 4>So to shame her like that, and her death to

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<v Speaker 4>me speaks volumes because a lot of famous actresses have died,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not of overdose, but it's like why go to

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<v Speaker 4>the degree of saying like nude body Marylyn, found in

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<v Speaker 4>the nude Marylyn, and even the candle in the wind

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<v Speaker 4>song Elton John wrote for her, it's like Marilyn was

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<v Speaker 4>found in the nude and they keep repeating that, like

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<v Speaker 4>she's naked, she's you know, bruised, and she's bloated, and

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<v Speaker 4>she's got pills knocked over on the nightstand, and like

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<v Speaker 4>they just really set it up to be somewhat cinematic

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<v Speaker 4>and like theater esque type of type of way. So

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just, yeah, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 4>sales job at that point, because there were a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of things looking back on it now that we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss today that just didn't make any type of

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<v Speaker 4>sense whatsoever. And but I do have some notes here

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<v Speaker 4>that I read this book. Anybody can find it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>called Dead Wrong Show you here, and it's by Richard

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<v Speaker 4>Belzer and David Wayne, and apparently one of them is

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<v Speaker 4>a comedian, And you know, I think that's ironic because

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<v Speaker 4>like most comedians, like Sam Tripoli, you know, like some

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<v Speaker 4>shit is up, Like we make fun and we joke

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<v Speaker 4>and laugh, but like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>fucking like uh yup comedians and shit like that, like

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan as a podcast obviously, like they're some of

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<v Speaker 4>the best conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, because we don't ever take life seriously, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're always like, sure, I could get it, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see h. I saw the funniest quote about that the

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<v Speaker 2>other day and said, when I was young, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>need Joe Rogan. My friend had a brother that was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven and still lived at home and smoke pot

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<v Speaker 2>in his room with his glow and the dark posters.

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<v Speaker 2>He told me, the Mayans invented cell phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, That's what I'm talking about. Like the stand up

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<v Speaker 4>comedians and ship they write books, they have to go

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<v Speaker 4>into all this fucking research and shit. The coolest motherfucker's alive.

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<v Speaker 4>But right, So we talked a little bit about her

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<v Speaker 4>having a relationship with not only John F. Kennedy but

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<v Speaker 4>also with Robert Kennedy, but she also had sexual relationships

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<v Speaker 4>with like some of the other top dogs in the Mafia,

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny Roselli, Frank Sinatra, Sam g and Kanna. She had

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<v Speaker 4>sexual relationships with all of these people. So she had

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<v Speaker 4>her hand in both sides, like she had her hand

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<v Speaker 4>in the mafia, and she had her hand in the

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<v Speaker 4>US government. So just looking at her body count, she

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<v Speaker 4>was blowing through like some of the She even had

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<v Speaker 4>connections to a Soviet spy what was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>G and Conna is an interesting namy just out there

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<v Speaker 2>because he's wildly unknown. But I will tell you why

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<v Speaker 2>I know him is because he's part of the Mormon

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<v Speaker 2>mafia connection, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing she was. She was screwing that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>She was screwing Frank Sinatra. She was Frederick Field, that's

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<v Speaker 4>his name. He was a Soviet spy, Frederick Field, And

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<v Speaker 4>so she was screwing that guy. And it just makes

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<v Speaker 4>you wonder like like, let's just say you got to

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<v Speaker 4>Maryland's level of fame overnight, and you could have anybody

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<v Speaker 4>you wanted to, because let's be real, everybody wanted her

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<v Speaker 4>and you could just like have your pick of the litter.

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<v Speaker 4>Her choices are a little suspicious just on the surface

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<v Speaker 4>because like to me, I'd be like, oh, this actor, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this musician, Oh you know this this this, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>get it. Frank Sinatra, he was a musician, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>also like super mafia. And then like who knows about

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<v Speaker 4>Sam g and Conna other than like maybe someone like you,

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<v Speaker 4>you and I and like you have your picture maybe right,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, yeah, John F. Kennedy was a handsome guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert F. Kennedy or Robert Uh, yeah, he was okay looking.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he wasn't as good looking as John. But

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<v Speaker 4>she's she's doing both of the brothers. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>just seems a little weird to me. But so we

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<v Speaker 4>have all of that, and we also have the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that her phone is being tapped by not only the

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<v Speaker 4>US government but by the mafia as well. So all

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<v Speaker 4>of her phone calls are literally being double tapped by

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<v Speaker 4>the mafia and the US government. And she's getting double

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<v Speaker 4>tapped by both the mafia government. Yeah, I mean, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest, Like I'm not trying to say that all

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<v Speaker 2>women are good girls, but like, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>what girl do you know that can do whatever she

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<v Speaker 2>don't know too many. I know a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 4>Though, Yeah, dudes for sure, Like I'm sure the Kennedys

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we both got Maryland but for her, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like Jesus, She's got like guys coming in and out

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<v Speaker 4>like every other day, just random dudes, not random, but

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, like yeah, mafia dudes, government dudes. And

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<v Speaker 4>so for me, I talked about this a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>sean'screach he he, and I talked about how she was

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<v Speaker 4>probably a programmed like like a sex kitten thing MK,

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<v Speaker 4>because when you look at the type of dudes that she,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said before, the type of dudes she was

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping with, and how frequently she was getting just tapped

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<v Speaker 4>by all these random guys, you start to think that

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<v Speaker 4>she is part of a program. There are also a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of clues to suggest that she was a programmed

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<v Speaker 4>multiple and probably had split personality disorder. They changed her name,

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<v Speaker 4>they changed her physical appearance. They pretty much turned her

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<v Speaker 4>into this Barbie Doll esque type of person, which to

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<v Speaker 4>me signals that she's probably part of this program. Because

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that they always like to do,

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at Eminem or whoever, they always like

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<v Speaker 4>bleached the hair, and you know, she changed her name,

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<v Speaker 4>she essentially became a completely different person. Overnight a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people and think about think about she went from

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<v Speaker 4>a brunette norma Jean, she lived in foster cares her

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<v Speaker 4>whole life. She was like a broken, abandoned person. Nobody

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<v Speaker 4>would care if anything happened to her, and they'd pluck

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<v Speaker 4>her out and put her in part of the program

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<v Speaker 4>because it's so easy to use women who are orphans

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<v Speaker 4>or children who are orphans for these type of programs

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<v Speaker 4>because nobody cares what happens to them. And she also

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<v Speaker 4>had like top secret clearance to look out Mountain Laboratory

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<v Speaker 4>where they were filming stuff films and doing all this

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<v Speaker 4>weird stuff. And so you just start to wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what is it about Maryland that she would have that

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<v Speaker 4>type of access or those type of connections or clearance

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<v Speaker 4>or unless she was part of the programs, And her

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<v Speaker 4>death may very well tell a lot about how deeply

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<v Speaker 4>involved she was because of the crazy cover job that

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<v Speaker 4>they did. And so let's get into some of the

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<v Speaker 4>inconsistencies here. They said that she had chloral hydrate and

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<v Speaker 4>nimbutah in her system, and that she had enough chloral

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<v Speaker 4>hydrate and nimbutah to where she would have had to

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<v Speaker 4>have taken seventy seven to eighty eight pills. Whow So

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<v Speaker 4>if you can imagine, so they said she would have

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<v Speaker 4>had to take sixty to seventy nimbtah and seventeen to

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen chloral hydrate. That's the level she had in her system.

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<v Speaker 4>First off, she didn't even have access to that type

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<v Speaker 4>of a prescription. None of her doctors were writing her that,

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<v Speaker 4>and actually they were weaning her off of them. They

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<v Speaker 4>were giving her less and less and less to try

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<v Speaker 4>to get her to the point where she didn't need

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<v Speaker 4>them as much. So the prescription that she had just

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<v Speaker 4>filled like a week ago or a few days before

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<v Speaker 4>her alleged suicide, she had like a prescription for maybe

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<v Speaker 4>twenty tablets or something like that. But the level in

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<v Speaker 4>her bloodstream would suggest that she had taken like seventy

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<v Speaker 4>seven pills. And what's interesting about that is digestion stops

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<v Speaker 4>at death, so you would expect to find her in

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<v Speaker 4>her stomach something called refractive crystals, and that is what

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<v Speaker 4>you will find. As medication starts breaking down in your stomach,

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<v Speaker 4>it gets broken down into what are called refractive crystals.

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<v Speaker 4>So you would expect to find those in the stomach

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<v Speaker 4>and the digestive track, and you would also expect to

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<v Speaker 4>find undigested tablets because she would have died before like

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<v Speaker 4>they even were fully digested. And then the I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say the chloral hydrate, but it could have been

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<v Speaker 4>the nimbutola I don't remember now, but one of them

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<v Speaker 4>is coded in like this super super thick yellow dye,

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<v Speaker 4>and you would also expect to find that. And when

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<v Speaker 4>they did the autopsy, there was absolutely no trace of

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<v Speaker 4>refractive crystals and absolutely no trace of undigested tablets or

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<v Speaker 4>the yellow dye that you would expect to find from

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<v Speaker 4>someone who had overdose on sedative drugs, Like if you

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<v Speaker 4>crack someone open who's taken seventy seven pills, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>find some shred of evidence of something. But what they

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<v Speaker 4>found is that her stomach was completely empty and her

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<v Speaker 4>digestive track was completely empty. So how the fuck do

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<v Speaker 4>you explain a sedative drug overdose with pills that she

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<v Speaker 4>was supposedly prescribed? And fucking we have two red flags

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<v Speaker 4>right off the bat. She wasn't prescribed that amount, first off,

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<v Speaker 4>and second off, where are they? Like seventy seve.

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<v Speaker 2>And people people will say, Okay, she's hoarding them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give the other side of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. If she's hoarding them, how is she

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<v Speaker 2>a drug addict? Oh well, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 4>You brought that up though, because if you're thinking that,

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<v Speaker 4>then the listeners are thinking that. So let me go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and clear that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, you got it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's ridiculous, dat right, Yeah, because and she was too.

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<v Speaker 4>She was severely addicted to them, which is why her

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<v Speaker 4>doctors said that they were weaning her off and engaging.

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<v Speaker 4>And I want to bring this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring this point up is people are

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<v Speaker 2>so quick to say she was addicted. Okay, maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>if they've only got a twenty pill prescription and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how often she filled it, like weekly or

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<v Speaker 2>monthly or what. But here's the thing that tells me

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<v Speaker 2>there's a dependence there. There are many people in this

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<v Speaker 2>world that actually need pain pills, that actually need sleeping pills,

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<v Speaker 2>that actually need I don't know what, Okay, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>pills in the world, but you know the only people

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<v Speaker 2>that get demonized are the people that take narcotics. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a dependence, Yeah, a dependent person, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she became. Why because she's sleeping on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>she's sleeping on set, she's sleeping on plane, she's sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>on trains. Like, yeah, you're gonna probably have insomnia, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably worried about all her boyfriends killing her.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine getting fucking like you need something to help you

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<v Speaker 4>sleep at night. She run and train on you every

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<v Speaker 4>other day, So sure, or she might.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's got to keep in that personality. If we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking her alter you're trying to get.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kink shame or

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<v Speaker 4>anything like that. But like, if dudes are running train

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<v Speaker 4>on you every other day, you got this whole secret

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<v Speaker 4>life going on, you probably need some fucking help sleeping.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's be real. Yeah, and she wasn't depressed. Yeah she

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<v Speaker 4>was a person and so yeah, she she did have

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<v Speaker 4>prescription medication available to her. But the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 4>in what her friend wanted to testify and say this,

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<v Speaker 4>but she never got to t I Marilyn called her

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<v Speaker 4>that night, the night that she killed herself, supposedly, and

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<v Speaker 4>Marilyn was like, listen, I need you to bring me

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<v Speaker 4>some sleeping pills because I don't have anymore or I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have enough or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>She said.

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<v Speaker 4>She literally called her friend and said, I don't have any.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have some? If you do, please bring them

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<v Speaker 4>over because I want them. And so she clearly had

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<v Speaker 4>already ran through her prescription. So her friend also said

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<v Speaker 4>that she was speaking very clearly, that she there was

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<v Speaker 4>no sign of like slurred speech or let's be real

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<v Speaker 4>if you've taken, if you've already taken seventy seven sleeping pills,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna fucking sound great when you're making this

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<v Speaker 4>phone at all. And her friend, yeah, I mean like,

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<v Speaker 4>and her friend is like, she sounded perfectly coherent, no

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<v Speaker 4>slurred speech, no sign of like that she had just

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<v Speaker 4>taken a whole bottle of pills and she said she

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<v Speaker 4>was out of them and wanted her friend to bring

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<v Speaker 4>her some. So there you go, right there. And her

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<v Speaker 4>friend was never able to testify and say that because

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<v Speaker 4>that would also bring up some red flags, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if she had seventy seven pills, why she calling her

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<v Speaker 4>friend to bum some off of her, right, And they, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see here. They found when they did the autopsy

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<v Speaker 4>that although the level of barbituates in her bloodstream was

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<v Speaker 4>like crazy high, like ridiculously high. Like I said before,

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<v Speaker 4>she would have had it taken like eighteen chloral hydrate

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<v Speaker 4>and like seventy nimbutol or whatever. They found that the

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<v Speaker 4>level in her liver was twice that or triple that,

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<v Speaker 4>which means that they would have had to enter her

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<v Speaker 4>body in a different way because your liver starts breaking

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<v Speaker 4>the shit down, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, The.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy who did her autopsy actually made like a smear

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<v Speaker 4>of her gastric contents and put it under a microscope

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<v Speaker 4>and it was completely clear there was She hadn't eaten

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<v Speaker 4>that day, and she hadn't drank any alcohol that day.

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<v Speaker 4>Her stomach was literally completely empty. You know, you would

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<v Speaker 4>expect to find certain things in the stomach of a

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<v Speaker 4>dead person, and it was almost like she had been

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<v Speaker 4>fasting or some shit that day. No pills, no refractive crystals,

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<v Speaker 4>no food, and no alcohol. So to me, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>if this happened late at night, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>she was in distress or some shit. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't even eaten that day. She must have known like

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<v Speaker 4>this something was coming, because she hadn't even literally her

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<v Speaker 4>housekeeper said that she usually ate breakfast and that she

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<v Speaker 4>would drink grapefruit juice and literally gave this whole like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh you know Marylyn and da da dah. This was

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<v Speaker 4>her schedule and so something obviously would have had to

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<v Speaker 4>happen that changed her routine that day. And obviously, like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, she didn't take pills because they weren't in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And as they're doing the autopsy, they start to put

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<v Speaker 4>two and two together. The guy who did it, his

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<v Speaker 4>name was doctor Nogucci. And this guy has done manyelebrity

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<v Speaker 4>autopsies and he's never been discredited and no one's ever

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<v Speaker 4>said that he has lied or made anything up or like.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very highly respected. But he's hard to find information on,

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<v Speaker 4>which makes me think they can't discredit him. But they

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<v Speaker 4>also don't want people finding out what he's saying because

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<v Speaker 4>he said he saw a secondary lividity markings on Marylyn.

417
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 4>And the lividity is when your blood settles a lot

418
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 4>of people know that, but just in case you don't,

419
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 4>when you die in your blood settles, you get like

420
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:48.720
<v Speaker 4>a pinkish reddish it's they're called lividity marks. And if

421
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 4>you look a dead body around, you can tell how

422
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 4>they died or if they have been moved after death

423
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 4>because Marilyn actually had secondary vidity markings and then she

424
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 4>had tertiary lividity markings, which means she was actually moved

425
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 4>three times after she died, which also doesn't fit the

426
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 4>suicide story because they said that. You know, her housekeeper

427
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 4>went to check on her in the middle of the night,

428
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 4>saw the light on under her door. The door was locked.

429
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 4>She called her Maryland psychiatrist to come over to the house. Uh,

430
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.720
<v Speaker 4>the psychiatrist couldn't get in the door, so he had

431
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>to break the bedroom window, crawl inside her bedroom and

432
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 4>didn't didn't. He said, he didn't touch her, even though

433
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 4>he's a medical professional. And the first thing you would

434
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.759
<v Speaker 4>think is the roller over and do like fucking CPR

435
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 4>some shit fuckings, some shit out of her system. No,

436
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 4>he just saw her leg and they're dead and was like,

437
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 4>oh fuck, she's dead.

438
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>And that.

439
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 4>They called her primary care physician over to the house.

440
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 4>They called her her her studio people, they called her publicist,

441
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:10.200
<v Speaker 4>They called everybody but the fucking cops. They stayed at

442
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 4>the house for like three or four hours before they

443
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 4>ever called the cops, and then by the time the

444
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 4>first policeman got there, everything was like bizarrely staged, you know,

445
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 4>but this is the story, and if that is the story,

446
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 4>and if that's what we're meant to believe, then she

447
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 4>would not have any secondary or tertiary fucking lividity markings

448
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 4>because they said they didn't touch the body. They said

449
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 4>they didn't move the body in any way, so there

450
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 4>should be no reason for her to. It would appear

451
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 4>she died in the face down position, what they called

452
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 4>the soldier's position, with her arms down at the sides

453
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 4>and her legs spread straight out on the bed and

454
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 4>her face down. That's the soldier's position. That's the way

455
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 4>that she died. But then there are these markings that

456
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 4>would suggest she was rolled over onto her back for

457
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 4>a considerable period of time and then flipped back over

458
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 4>again back into the soldier's position, which is how she

459
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 4>was found in. So there's the first position, the second position,

460
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 4>and then the third position. And again, if it's a

461
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 4>suicide and nobody touched the body, that doesn't make fucking

462
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:42.319
<v Speaker 4>sense whatsoever. And she also had a bruised purple colon,

463
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 4>which if she took pills, why the fuck does she

464
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 4>have that? And she also had uh, she had something else, God,

465
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm forgetting now she had, Oh, she had bruises on

466
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 4>the back of her arms, and she had bruises on

467
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 4>the back of her legs, and she had like a

468
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 4>huge bruise on one of her butt cheeks, like halfway

469
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 4>on her butt cheek, halfway on her hip. Like she

470
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 4>she looked as if based on the bruising and the

471
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 4>corner or it wasn't the corner. The autopsy doctor Noguchi,

472
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 4>he said that it looked like she had been held down,

473
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 4>her legs had been held down, her arms had been

474
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 4>held down, and that somebody probably took a knee or

475
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 4>something and fucking held her her, you know, butt down,

476
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 4>because there was a huge bruise there, like a huge

477
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.559
<v Speaker 4>round bruise, and then there were like smaller bruises on

478
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 4>the backs of her arms, in her legs, and then

479
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 4>she had a bruised, swollen purple colon, and no fucking

480
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 4>pills in the stomach. So I'm gonna just stop for

481
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 4>a second and ask you, as a medical professional, if

482
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I told if you didn't know this was Marylyn, and

483
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 4>I told you somebody was found like this, what would

484
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 4>your honest opinion be at this point A fucking a

485
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 4>fucking pill overdose, Is that what you're going with. I

486
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 4>don't fucking think so.

487
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 2>No, something nefarious for sure, yep, especially with tertiary marks,

488
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 2>because the fact remains is like, that's just weird that

489
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 2>you would move a person flip flip flip, like almost

490
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 2>like they were either enjoying the body why it was

491
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>still warm or taking photos is a guess, you know.

492
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 4>And also when the first police police officer arrived on

493
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>the scene, he noted some really peculiar things like the

494
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 4>fact that if we're to believe this story, that Marilyn's

495
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 4>house keeper saw the light under her bedroom door and

496
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 4>couldn't get in and called her psychiatrist, and the psychiatrists

497
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 4>couldn't get in, so he had to go break her

498
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 4>bedroom window to crawl in to get in there to

499
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 4>unlock the door from the inside. Why then, was all

500
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 4>of the glass on the outside of the window in

501
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>the yard. That doesn't make any fucking sense. And the

502
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 4>housekeeper the police officer his name was Sergeant Jack Clemens,

503
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 4>and he said he spoke with the u housekeeper and

504
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 4>she had been busying herself on her fucking third load

505
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 4>of laundry in the time that she found out Marilyn

506
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 4>was dead. In the time that the police officer arrived,

507
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 4>she was on her third load of laundry, and who's

508
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 4>the fuck is she doing laundry for when her fucking

509
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 4>employer is in the other room dead as But she

510
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 4>also was very fidgety and very nervous and was sweating.

511
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 4>And he said that her story sounded rehearsed. And after

512
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 4>all this went down, she fucked off Europe for like

513
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 4>three years and she didn't testify. She didn't and so

514
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 4>that's interesting. She also, it later came out she hated Marylyn,

515
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 4>and Marylyn treated her like dogshit. So I'm not surprised

516
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 4>that she was complicit in all of this, But.

517
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Just the fact maybe they said we're gonna kill you girl,

518
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe they were like, you saw what happened.

519
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred and so the housekeeper

520
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 4>thing was suspicious. The glass on the outside of the

521
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 4>window is suspicious. The fact that they waited four hours

522
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 4>to call the police suspicious. He also the police officer

523
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 4>also noted that there was no sign of regurgitation anywhere

524
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 4>in Maryland's bedroom, and that's one of the first signs

525
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 4>that someone has overdosed. On pills, whatever pills they are,

526
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter. Your body goes into a freakout mode

527
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 4>when you've taken a huge overdose of medication like that

528
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 4>and you involuntarily start regurgitating half of the pills. So

529
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 4>at any barbituate or otherwise overdose overdose death crime scene,

530
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna find some type of regurgitated material somewhere, and

531
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 4>it's usually, according to the police officer, it's usually either

532
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 4>in the bed or in the bathroom or wherever like

533
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 4>nearby where the body is. So that was also highly

534
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 4>suspicious because, as we said at the beginning of the episode,

535
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to take seventy seven pills, you're going

536
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 4>to have some type recurgitated materials somewhere. You're also going

537
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 4>to find some evidence of that in the stomach, which

538
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 4>they did not. The other curious thing is when the

539
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.679
<v Speaker 4>police officer arrived.

540
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>He.

541
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Was asking where if she took all these pills, where

542
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 4>they would be. The doctors were stumped. They were like,

543
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I don't know. Like, obviously, you know

544
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 4>she was on these barbituates, and that's she must have

545
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 4>taken the whole bottle, and we just found her like

546
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 4>this and of course, they're like trying to sell the

547
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 4>police officer their innocence, you know, like we just found

548
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 4>her like this, We didn't touch her, we didn't, you know.

549
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, okay, well, where are the pills? And

550
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 4>also if she took seventy seven pills, where is like

551
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 4>how Like there's no glass of water, there's no juice,

552
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 4>there's no milk, there's no nothing. And so he starts

553
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 4>looking around in the house and in Marylyn's bathroom, and

554
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 4>he finds out that it would be damn near impossible

555
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 4>since we know, based on the autopsy, she didn't eat

556
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 4>that day or drink anything besides water. She drank no alcohol,

557
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 4>she drank no grapefruit juice or whatever her housekeeper said

558
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 4>she liked to drink. She literally had no evidence of

559
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 4>that at all. So if she was to take all

560
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 4>these pills, where's the water glass or like, what the fuck?

561
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 4>So he starts looking around the house and he realizes

562
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.480
<v Speaker 4>she's been remodeling the house and the fucking water is

563
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 4>shut off and there's no way to even get water.

564
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 4>So again, how preposterous is it she dry swallowed those bitches?

565
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

566
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 2>She was a gagger?

567
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I heard she heard was a gagger.

568
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Marilyn was a gagger.

569
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dude, there's no woman out there, you know what

570
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. Even Marylynd those bad guys destroying, but she's no.

571
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 4>And actually one of her friends, the same one who

572
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 4>said that Marylyn called her begging for pills, she was

573
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 4>like Marylyn had a hard time swallowing a pill, you know,

574
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 4>like she like she didn't want to swallow a pill,

575
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 4>let alone dry swallow seventy seven of those bitches. So

576
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 4>he's the police officer is talking to her psychiatrists and

577
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 4>her primary care physician, and they're like, well, let's look around.

578
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's got to be a drinking glass somewhere,

579
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 4>There's got to be a pill bottle somewhere, and and

580
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>there was nothing to be found. Well, the police officer

581
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of takes a break from the crime scene. He's

582
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 4>making his notes. The rest of the the crew shows up,

583
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, like the coroner and like they come to

584
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 4>get the body, and the coming to take pictures and shit,

585
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 4>and like the slew of you know, other police officers

586
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 4>whatever the fuck they all show up. And it's just

587
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 4>interesting to me because like the newspaper with the picture

588
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 4>they took of for oh Marylyn died of pills. Oh

589
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Marylyn found in the nude Marylyn just in time for

590
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 4>them to break out the camera. Fucking there goes a

591
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 4>knocked over bottle of pills on the nightstand, and there

592
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 4>goes a fucking drinking glass that wasn't there five minutes ago.

593
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's, like I said before, the entire thing is

594
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 4>completely staged. Sergeant Clemens wrote in his notebook that there

595
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 4>was no pill bottle and that there was no drinking

596
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 4>glass of any kind. And then, oh, right before the

597
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 4>fucking reporters show up, there goes the fucking pill bottle

598
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 4>knocked over with a few little pills scattered, and there

599
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 4>goes the fucking drinking glass. So everything about the crime

600
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 4>scene was staged. And the fact that she had been

601
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 4>rolled over a bunch of times after she died, and

602
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>they said, oh, we didn't touch her, Oh we didn't.

603
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 4>The housekeepers acting retarded like she just had to fucking

604
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 4>do laundry and shit, and he was like, so he

605
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 4>asked the housekeeper keeper. He was like, so you've been

606
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 4>doing laundry, but you know, obviously that's that doesn't take

607
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 4>three hours, and you must have been doing something in

608
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 4>the meantime until I got here, Like what were you doing?

609
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, well, you know, I was trying to

610
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 4>find a window repair man, and I was trying like

611
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 4>why would that be necessary, Like the bitch is dead.

612
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't care if there's a cool breeze coming through

613
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 4>the window. She doesn't care about the fucking laundry you're

614
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 4>doing audit. That doesn't make sense at all. And the

615
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 4>doctors didn't have a good story either as to why

616
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 4>it was taken them so long to call the police, like, oh,

617
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 4>we had to call like her publicist and we had

618
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 4>to call like da da, da, da da. It just

619
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 4>didn't make sense whatsoever. And fucking the police officer didn't

620
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 4>even get a chance to testify. Nobody wanted to hear

621
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 4>from him because he was reporting the facts, right, He

622
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 4>was reporting what actually fucking happened, and nobody wanted to

623
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 4>hear about that shit. So he got buried. And doctor

624
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Nogucci called in a professional to observe his fucking findings

625
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 4>and came to the same conclusion that for that amount

626
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 4>of for that level of drugs to be found in

627
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 4>her system, and two times that amount to be found

628
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 4>in her liver and with the bruising and the swollen

629
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 4>purpose bull colwon. Uh that she must have been given

630
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 4>a deadly enema and so right up the ass. And

631
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 4>she also had oh HEIGHTI remind me, when you die

632
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 4>really fast and you turn blue, what is it called? Uh?

633
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>You mean riga martis.

634
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 4>No, It's like if you take a deadly injection of something,

635
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 4>or you drowned or you get suffocated and all the

636
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:41.000
<v Speaker 4>blood vessels burst in your eyes and you turn Yes,

637
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 4>she had that, and she also had all fucked me,

638
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 4>hang on, she had something else.

639
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 2>You're good. She had uh petikia I are really indicative

640
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>of strangulation.

641
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 4>Right, or a quick death where the oxygen is cut

642
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 4>off extremely quickly, which also was inconsistent with a drug overdose,

643
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.119
<v Speaker 4>because you're not gonna have bursted blood vessels in your

644
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 4>fucking eyeballs and you're also not going to turn blue.

645
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I can't be that much pressure.

646
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 4>Cyanosis, Oh oh, I forgot. Yeah. So she had cyinosis

647
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 4>and she had the fucking lividity marking. So those two

648
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 4>things were also inconsistent with what the fuck they were

649
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 4>trying to say.

650
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, that's crazy that they well, and I can't imagine

651
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 2>of all the people that they bought off, they really

652
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 2>just completely blew it on this one, Like why send

653
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it to that guy? If if they're going to do that, right,

654
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Like why send it to this famous autopsy person?

655
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 4>Right one hundred and So we get to look in

656
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 4>at the physical evidence, which isn't matching up at all.

657
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 4>The story for her psychiatrist and her primary care doctor

658
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 4>is not matching up at all. Her housekeeper focks off

659
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 4>to Europe, and her story doesn't make sense at all.

660
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 4>There's no evidence of pills in the stomach, there's all

661
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 4>this other shit, And then we start to think that

662
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 4>she didn't even have access to the drugs in the

663
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 4>amount that killed her. And with the way that her

664
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 4>colon was bruised in purple, and the bruises on the

665
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 4>back of her arms and legs and the big one

666
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 4>on her butt, it would suggest that someone someone held

667
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 4>her down and administered a deadly enema, a liquid like

668
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 4>a liquid fucking shot up the ass, and it killed

669
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 4>her so quickly that she had so.

670
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Much quicker in the re recdum like people that unfortunately

671
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 2>do illegal substances know this because a lot of times

672
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>they get problems this way. It's a nice thing to

673
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>know if you're sick and can't take a medication, orally

674
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 2>if you're vomiting your head off, you can do that.

675
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Just be aware these things have problems sometimes that come

676
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 2>with them if you don't know the correct dosage, because

677
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it's completely different in the rectum.

678
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:27.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, and it's just the fastest entry into the bloodstream.

679
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 4>So if we can agree that the evidence has brought

680
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 4>us this far, the only question now is who would

681
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 4>have done that?

682
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>And now the flu people.

683
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Right, that's where it starts to get controversial because there

684
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 4>are so many theories. If we can at least agree

685
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 4>on the death part and the fact that she didn't

686
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 4>kill herself, the only question that we have left is

687
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 4>who could have done this? And so we have the Kennedys,

688
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 4>and we also have the Mafia, and there are two

689
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>really good theories. When I first covered this in my

690
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.719
<v Speaker 4>two part series, when I did it in like a

691
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 4>solo show on my show, I said that I think

692
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 4>it was probably the Mafia, and they framed it to

693
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 4>look like it was the Kennedys. But the more I

694
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.559
<v Speaker 4>look into it, it would appear to be probably the

695
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Kennedy's if I'm just being honest with you, because she was.

696
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 2>She really, yeah, she really pissed off his wife at

697
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 2>the happy birthday, mister President.

698
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 4>That shit got her killed because there was a scrap

699
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 4>of paper that was found in her bed with like

700
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 4>the private phone number to the White House, like JFK's

701
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 4>office or something, and she had that phone number scribbled

702
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 4>down on a piece of paper that was found in

703
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 4>her bed that later disappeared from the evidence. Also, all

704
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 4>of the autopsy reports disappeared and all of the uh so,

705
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 4>this is really interesting. Doctor Negucci takes all of the

706
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:25.679
<v Speaker 4>information that he gathered about his autopsy findings and like

707
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 4>they want to retest everything because they're like, oh damn,

708
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't make sense, right, because she's died of a

709
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 4>pill overdose. Let's pretest this. They go to retest everything, right, yeah,

710
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 4>they're like they're gonna find something different on the second time.

711
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 4>But they go to like retest the organ samples, and

712
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 4>they find out that all of our fucking organs are missing.

713
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 4>So if it if we're meant to believe like the

714
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 4>story that they give us, what what the fuck happened

715
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 4>to the liver? Like who the fuck took that?

716
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I could see. Honestly, people are so

717
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>weird and creepy.

718
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 4>They left the tits but took the liver. Does that

719
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:15.800
<v Speaker 4>make sense to you?

720
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was.

721
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Hollowed out and then all of the autopsy records were

722
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 4>missing liver, all internal organs in the autopsy report fucking

723
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:28.760
<v Speaker 4>went missing.

724
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>That's so creepy. I could see some gross guys selling him. Actually,

725
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I know this sounds perverse and disgusting, but like it

726
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 2>could go three ways. It could be a cleanup for

727
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the mob, a cleanup for the president, or it could

728
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.159
<v Speaker 2>be some sicko at the morgue that's like, guess what

729
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I got? You want to eat her liver? Like, dude,

730
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>are dude?

731
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Dude? Her body went missing that night for three hours?

732
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 4>My gosh. So, I mean, there's just so many ways

733
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 4>to look at this as like it's just it can't

734
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 4>be what they say that it was. And so back

735
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 4>to the question though, like who did it? I mean,

736
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 4>does it does matter? But at the same time, does

737
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 4>it matter because like, obviously we know this is a lie,

738
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and obviously we know that her connections were interesting to

739
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 4>say the least, and so could it have been the

740
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 4>mob that kind of set it up to frame the Kennedys,

741
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 4>because both of the Kennedys. No, I take that back.

742
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 4>It was just Robert. Robert was there that morning. People

743
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 4>saw him. The neighbors fucking saw him. And the neighbors

744
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 4>say that they were having a scuffle that morning. Robert

745
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.440
<v Speaker 4>was at her house, they had a scoffle, And so

746
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 4>it could be one of two things. Like I said,

747
00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:01.159
<v Speaker 4>the mob were pissed off at the Kennedys because of

748
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 4>something like they helped they helped racketeering. Yeah, helped him

749
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 4>get in and then he like he like stabbed him

750
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 4>in the back, stabbed him in the back essentially, So

751
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 4>they were pissed off and wanted some shit like this

752
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 4>to happen. Anyways, But was that why she died. I

753
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 4>feel like that's a little extreme if we're just talking

754
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 4>about revenge, right, But there's the whole birthday party thing

755
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 4>with the dress, and you know, Kim Kay wore that

756
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 4>dress like a couple of years ago, and you know

757
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 4>they say that she didn't alter it at all to

758
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 4>fit inside her dress. Let's be real, I actually have

759
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 4>it in my notes. I've made a cute little note

760
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.519
<v Speaker 4>about that when I was reading this book. They say

761
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 4>that she didn't alter Marylynd's dress whatsoever, that she just

762
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:56.800
<v Speaker 4>fit in it perfectly. My ass, because uh.

763
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Hoops were not that big number one, no, number two, there,

764
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 2>no no. And Marylyn well, they say she destroyed Kim

765
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 2>destroyed that dress, that it's destroyed.

766
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 4>So I have it right here in the book and

767
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I have a post it note on there because I

768
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 4>looked it up. Marilyn was a size six. Everybody wants

769
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 4>to say how Marilyn was so curvy and like volumptuous,

770
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.960
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know where the fuck they're getting that from,

771
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 4>because on my best day, I'm not a size six,

772
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 4>and I'm a pretty slender person, you know. Like Kim's

773
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 4>hips don't lie, all right, Oh it's not a size

774
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:40.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking six. Kim is a sixteen for those hips. If

775
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 4>she isn't everywhere her hips and ass are her hips

776
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 4>and ass aren't fitting into Marylyn's fucking shoe. Okay, Like,

777
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.840
<v Speaker 4>there is no way you're telling me any piece of

778
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Kim is fitting into any piece of anything that Marilyn

779
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 4>ever owned. Her case, if.

780
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 2>If it had a free waist, if it had a

781
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 2>free waist and it wasn't fitted, I'll give it to her,

782
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>but no.

783
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 4>No, it was fitted. It was fitted. It was actually

784
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.360
<v Speaker 4>for Maryland.

785
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 2>If the dress had a free waist and it wasn't.

786
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.159
<v Speaker 4>You're talking about like a like a a line or

787
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 4>something like that. Yeah, so the dress was actually designed

788
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.199
<v Speaker 4>for Maryland. And just to give you an example of

789
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 4>how much she probably paid to wear the dress, because

790
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 4>she probably would have had to buy it because she

791
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 4>ruined it. So you know, if you break it, you

792
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:42.760
<v Speaker 4>buy it. In nineteen ninety nine, this dress that Marylyn

793
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 4>wore to the Happy Birthday celebration, they sold it at

794
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:51.079
<v Speaker 4>an auction at Christie's in New York for one million,

795
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 4>two hundred and sixty thousand dollars, okay, in nineteen ninety nine,

796
00:53:56.159 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 4>So how much do you think it would be worth now?

797
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 4>And she put her big fat ass in it and

798
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking destroyed it.

799
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I heard she she ruined it. I did

800
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:10.920
<v Speaker 2>hear she ruined it. That it's all.

801
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 4>But this idea that Marylyn was curvy, I don't know,

802
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 4>like in comparison.

803
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.639
<v Speaker 2>To what maybe I think maybe she was, Like if

804
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you look at her old pictures, like when you look

805
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>at her old, old pictures, Like when she first came

806
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 2>on the scene, she had a lot more going on.

807
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Then she got really thin, then she got kind of

808
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:35.719
<v Speaker 2>heavier again because she'd had all those miscarriages. So I'm like, okay,

809
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at what point were you measuring after her worst miss

810
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>carriage ever?

811
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that.

812
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Measurements, you know, the poor lady can't get a break, Like, yeah, no,

813
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 2>she really couldn't.

814
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 4>But the thing is just like I think Kim, or

815
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 4>at least they want us to think, like Kim kind

816
00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:02.440
<v Speaker 4>of took over this uh like sex symbol for our generation,

817
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 4>kind of as if Maryland, you know she was Maryland

818
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 4>was was getting you know, trains ran on her, but

819
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>she was still real classy and like elegant. Kim is

820
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 4>a fucking sloppy ass witch bitch, and I just don't

821
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 4>see the comparison between the two of them. But it's

822
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:24.360
<v Speaker 4>almost like.

823
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Just the train, just the trains, girl, just the trains.

824
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, they want us to think that that

825
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 4>Kim is is like this, it's it's ritual is in

826
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 4>some way kind of yeah.

827
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>And she I don't know that because a size sixteen,

828
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.159
<v Speaker 2>even in the fifties was only a size twelve.

829
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.480
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and it's saying that this dress right here

830
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 4>of Maryland's was a six because.

831
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 2>The twelve was probably when she first came out or

832
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>had that miscarriage. How much you want to be well one?

833
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so she was not invited to that birthday party.

834
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:10.440
<v Speaker 4>She invited herself.

835
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I know this is this is why you did.

836
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm for you. I have to say it

837
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 4>played a major part in it because they uninvited her,

838
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 4>and she was like, I'm Marilyn Monroe. If I want

839
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 4>to go, I'm gonna go. They even threatened to like

840
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.079
<v Speaker 4>destroy her contract over it. They were like, we're gonna

841
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna fucking shred your fucking contract if you show

842
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 4>up at this part anyway.

843
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>For her, though, good on you girl. You know what

844
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.760
<v Speaker 2>if you get treated like that and you're and you're

845
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the the other girl, the side hoe,

846
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 2>and you get treated wrong and you want to make

847
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>a scene, I guess make that scene. Guys, keep it

848
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.280
<v Speaker 2>in your pants. Don't have a side shiet.

849
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Think of Think of the clout that she had to

850
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 4>not only show up uninvited, but be like, I'm also

851
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 4>gonna perform. How about that up?

852
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:12.159
<v Speaker 2>She pulled that I'm gonna show you what you're gonna

853
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 2>miss cards she did, ye, Yeah, I'm just Jackie. She

854
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 2>looks like she could be a scary bitch sometimes, you

855
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.119
<v Speaker 2>know what, Jackie Kennedy don't like you want to mess

856
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 2>with her. And I'm not talking about boxing, like Marilyn

857
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 2>would have won a boxing match because she's from the streets,

858
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.679
<v Speaker 2>but like not Jackie. She's that girl that poisoned your

859
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>coffee as.

860
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 4>She gave it to you with oh yeah, oh deadly, deadly.

861
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 4>And she's French too, Jacqueline.

862
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust her.

863
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't trust the French. I wouldn't trust a

864
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 4>fucking said dirty. That's all they played dirty.

865
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I will say this for the French. I went

866
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 2>to France and I went to Paris, and I have

867
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:59.400
<v Speaker 2>never felt like a more desired woman in my entire life.

868
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 2>In fact, we couldn't leave there. I was like, no, no,

869
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:07.119
<v Speaker 2>that it's so rapey there. I didn't show we yes,

870
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>it's so bad. We we could.

871
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 4>Not go in the streets.

872
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 2>And all I had on was a sweater flare dress,

873
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>so nothing, no fitted, none, none of that, just a

874
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>flare dress and it was a sweater one, clear down,

875
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 2>clear down turtleneck the whole nine yards. But it like

876
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 2>fit me. It was a sweater, you know, sweater type.

877
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.280
<v Speaker 2>We had to go to the bathroom and change. We

878
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 2>did not leave that airport. M m m m. We

879
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 2>did not wear any clothes like that.

880
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.039
<v Speaker 4>They wanted to. They wanted to their French bagget something.

881
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I was terrified. I then understood, like I look around

882
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the streets and I was like, these women do not

883
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have their shit together. They all got a bun and

884
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 2>their hairs like flipped, messy bun. They got the scarf on,

885
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like extra scarfs, and I'm like, now I know why

886
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:56.039
<v Speaker 2>they all have four scarfs and the Mormons, yes, and

887
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to hide everything. But then after I walked

888
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>down the street, I was like, no, I know why. Okay,

889
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I got you. Yeah, I need I need to get scrape.

890
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 4>On a Tuesday.

891
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

892
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 4>That's why I say the French they probably small. If

893
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna be honest, I imagine.

894
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you this. They will walk straight up

895
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 2>to your face and tell you some crazy stuff. I'm like,

896
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I can smell your breath, bro, like that is.

897
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Way, oh my god.

898
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Like get back. I will knock you into next month. Yeah,

899
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not nice, I'm not I am approachable if you

900
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 2>know me, But if you don't know me, you best

901
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>not be able to get your breath by me.

902
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that. Yeah, and you know what, No,

903
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 4>this is a side tangent. But since you brought it

904
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 4>up the the place that I worked before, I don't

905
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 4>know if I ever told you this, but we like

906
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 4>pulled people's teeth out because they had like perio and shit,

907
00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 4>and like once you smell that, you'll never fucking get it.

908
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.119
<v Speaker 4>A dead body smell. And like, I know what smell

909
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:03.480
<v Speaker 4>it is.

910
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I know that smell. I smelled it and wound.

911
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:10.239
<v Speaker 4>And like, yeah, it's like dead body mixed with like

912
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 4>fishy puss and steak.

913
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

914
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dude, if they walked into the room, you could

915
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 4>smell them before you saw them kind of thing. You

916
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.000
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, Like, that's just an unpleasant I

917
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 4>just imagine this is so probably mean of.

918
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Me to We'll check this part out.

919
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 4>We'll check this part out. I just imagine, like the

920
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 4>type of dudes you're talking about, like having fucking pario breath,

921
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 4>let's just be disgusting.

922
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I am so funny that way because I grew up

923
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:50.639
<v Speaker 2>a little hard around the edges.

924
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.000
<v Speaker 4>So I am not the girl.

925
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

926
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Don't bring the fucking pario mouth over me. Oh my god.

927
01:00:57.400 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 4>And I'm married alive myself.

928
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I wear my ring. You better step back

929
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.320
<v Speaker 2>away from me. But they do not have any blonde

930
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.280
<v Speaker 2>haired like white blonde haired women, and they have no

931
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 2>women with short hair. They have no short haired women.

932
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 2>So I stuck out. There was no BLI it was

933
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 2>not and they were all five ft six. I'm like,

934
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 2>oh lord, I'm four inches above every person here.

935
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 5>And also now I do not fit in clearly. I

936
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 5>am not from Oh. But it's like like like, oh,

937
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:34.119
<v Speaker 5>they hate Americans over there. I'm like, well, they loved me.

938
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 4>So I was gonna say it's because that one lady

939
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.320
<v Speaker 4>that came on your show, uh and said that you

940
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 4>were in Nephelom.

941
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it is. They know.

942
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, pay homage. I'm like, that's right.

943
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 4>You draw them in with your fucking magic.

944
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.480
<v Speaker 2>The magic. Yeah. And I was with my older my

945
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 2>oldest daughter, who also looks just like me. You've seen

946
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a picture of her, and we were looks like twins. Yeah,

947
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.239
<v Speaker 2>she's five foot eight and five foot nine. She has

948
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.639
<v Speaker 2>blue eyes. I have green eyes. That's the only difference.

949
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 2>But I tell you, I was in a freaking club

950
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 2>getting just a drink, like it's like a bar, not

951
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 2>like a club, just a drink, and some guy walked

952
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 2>straight in my face. He was from our hotel, and

953
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:23.559
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen

954
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:24.480
<v Speaker 2>in my entire life.

955
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh my god, so awkward.

956
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:34.519
<v Speaker 2>You're just like you're embarrassed for them, like I just

957
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and and my daughter was like really he was so

958
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.480
<v Speaker 2>mad because she thought he was cute. And I was like, listen,

959
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't want nothing to do with no crazy French man.

960
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to talk to him, knock yourself out.

961
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:50.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

962
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was nice and everything, but they're

963
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:58.559
<v Speaker 2>just like really brazen. I mean, it's a way to

964
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.320
<v Speaker 2>go French guys. I mean, I guess, like, way to

965
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 2>go you, But I was, yeah, no, we don't do

966
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:05.360
<v Speaker 2>it like that.

967
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Isn't that where did you see taken with Liam Neeson?

968
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

969
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Is that where she went on a trip or ship

970
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 4>like that?

971
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Paris maybe, so I think everybody's

972
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Dahmer. You already know walking down I'm walking down

973
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the street like.

974
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Me too, me too. I have a horrible like so

975
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:37.119
<v Speaker 4>another side, and then I promise I'm being back to Maryland.

976
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.519
<v Speaker 2>And to our fans. We love you. But like there's reasons,

977
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 2>there are reasons.

978
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh you just have to hear this ship. So you

979
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 4>know how my mind works anyways, Like I always feel

980
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 4>like everyone's out to get me. And so Colby and

981
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:55.639
<v Speaker 4>I on our way here, stopped at this gas station,

982
01:03:56.199 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 4>truck stop whatever, and I always make sure I have

983
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 4>my phone on me just in case I get abducted,

984
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 4>and so like, at least you can find where my

985
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.440
<v Speaker 4>carcasses later, as long as they well they could like

986
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 4>discard my phone somewhere, but at least you'll know like

987
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.440
<v Speaker 4>the general vicinity of where my carcass is. But so

988
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 4>we go to this like truck stop and they're working

989
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 4>on the women's bathroom and they're like putting new toilets

990
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 4>in there or something. So I had to go in

991
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:30.480
<v Speaker 4>this shower room to use the bathroom. And it was

992
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 4>like an Indian guy and he was not creepy or anything,

993
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:36.960
<v Speaker 4>but he's like, hey, go in the shower room, and

994
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.079
<v Speaker 4>so I went in there and this other guy started

995
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.920
<v Speaker 4>banging on the door, like multiple times, banging on the

996
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 4>door to get in there. And I mean, that's the

997
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:53.920
<v Speaker 4>most vulnerable position you can be in a in a

998
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 4>shower room with your pants down and some dude banging

999
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 4>on the door. I have no ever pushed piss out

1000
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 4>harder or faster in my life. And I was like,

1001
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.159
<v Speaker 4>this is it. This is it. This is the part

1002
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 4>where he's here and he rapes me to death, like,

1003
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh. And then I opened the door really

1004
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.639
<v Speaker 4>quick to get out of there, and he was just

1005
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 4>like fucking standing there in the doorway, and I was like,

1006
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 4>this is it. I'm gonna get raped and murdered and

1007
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna die, and fucking why am like this? I

1008
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:28.440
<v Speaker 4>see the light at the end of the tunnel, but

1009
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know you're real.

1010
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Because it's really desolate, you guys if you never.

1011
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was in the middle of nowhere. But so

1012
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:39.559
<v Speaker 4>that's why I always say, like, I always think that

1013
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get raped and murdered. It's probably because it is, though,

1014
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 4>because I've watched true crime stuff with my mom since

1015
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 4>I was a little kid, and you know, I think

1016
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of that stuff is psyops a little bit

1017
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:01.000
<v Speaker 4>like the way they sensationalized murder and rape the way

1018
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000
<v Speaker 4>they sensationalize serial killers. And I'm starting to find that out,

1019
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.039
<v Speaker 4>like as I move along in my conspiracy theory journey,

1020
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 4>but as a kid watching that stuff and until just recently,

1021
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:21.039
<v Speaker 4>really the the idea of like a lone nut psychopath raping,

1022
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:25.280
<v Speaker 4>murdering person that's just like out there and you don't

1023
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.079
<v Speaker 4>know where they are, and that they could be like

1024
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 4>extremely good looking and like you'd never know, or you know,

1025
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:36.440
<v Speaker 4>like Jeff Don worked out a fucking chocolate factory or

1026
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 4>like whatever he did. Yeah, if they're just like hidden

1027
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 4>in plain sight. Like the thought of that it terrified

1028
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:47.119
<v Speaker 4>me as a kid, and it yeah, I mean, I

1029
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:52.559
<v Speaker 4>feel like it has definitely followed me into my adult

1030
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.159
<v Speaker 4>life a little bit because I'm always so weary of

1031
01:06:55.199 --> 01:07:01.239
<v Speaker 4>being alone places. But the whole uh serial killer thing,

1032
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:03.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you've gotten a chance to listen

1033
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.199
<v Speaker 4>to my uh and I guess shameless plug my new

1034
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 4>program to kill a series, but it's yeah, I mean

1035
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:16.599
<v Speaker 4>I think there are some some interesting uh you would

1036
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:17.760
<v Speaker 4>like it let's just say that.

1037
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But.

1038
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:23.280
<v Speaker 4>The more you look into it, you kind of see,

1039
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 4>like the whole serial killer thing is probably like unfortunately

1040
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:36.400
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of people who have been programmed and home

1041
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 4>grown from our own secret military operations, like Henry Lee Lucas.

1042
01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:47.559
<v Speaker 4>He said that, David Berger, you know, they they say

1043
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:50.679
<v Speaker 4>shit like that. Ted Bundy was even involved in politics

1044
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 4>to some degree, you know, so, but I don't trust him.

1045
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't trust any of them. But see, getting back

1046
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.320
<v Speaker 4>to Maryland, though, it is like it sucks to think

1047
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 4>that it was probably the Kennedy's. Like I know a

1048
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:08.480
<v Speaker 4>lot of people want to say, like, oh, it was

1049
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 4>the CIA, or it was the mob, or it was whoever.

1050
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.719
<v Speaker 4>But after the birthday party, shit started to go fucking

1051
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 4>downhill fast, and I'm more and more leaning towards the

1052
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 4>idea that this was an inside job. You know this, Well,

1053
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.600
<v Speaker 4>she definitely didn't kill herself, So those are options.

1054
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think you want to violently

1055
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 2>hold yourself down and cause butt bruises. Why you exterminate

1056
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 2>yourself through the anus, especially knowing how vain she was

1057
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry she was, but like I get it, girl,

1058
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not going to my mailbox some kind of

1059
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 2>way either, So you know, like she wouldn't want to

1060
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.640
<v Speaker 2>die like that, Like what if she craped? What if

1061
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 2>she crapped herself? Like and ps, what the hell was

1062
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the little miss?

1063
01:08:58.319 --> 01:08:58.439
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

1064
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm cleaning everything? While was it? She? I'm just curious, That's.

1065
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.079
<v Speaker 4>What I said too, because there had to have been

1066
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 4>some type of a mess that needed to be cleaned up.

1067
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 2>She can tell, she needs to tell if we take.

1068
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 4>Into consideration how vain of a person she was. And

1069
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:21.520
<v Speaker 4>let's just say that I'm also in you know, most

1070
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.199
<v Speaker 4>women are in some way a little vain. If you're

1071
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 4>gonna kill yourself and you are Marilyn Monroe, you telling

1072
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.119
<v Speaker 4>me that's the way she decided to.

1073
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Go out like you make on Yeah, yeah dress.

1074
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:42.159
<v Speaker 4>No suicide note, no suicide note. She was like an

1075
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 4>extremely dramatic person, and she journaled every single day. She

1076
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:52.760
<v Speaker 4>had a stash of journals and that's the thing. They

1077
01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:58.279
<v Speaker 4>she kept her journals in her guest house, which tell

1078
01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:01.319
<v Speaker 4>me why this makes sense if she killed herself. The

1079
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.960
<v Speaker 4>night that her body was found, her guest house was

1080
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 4>broken into and all of her journals and shit were missing.

1081
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, Okay, Yeah, she didn't leave a suicide note.

1082
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 4>She didn't have any makeup on, she didn't have her

1083
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.640
<v Speaker 4>hair done, and actually she had just placed the call

1084
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 4>right before her hour of death, as they would later

1085
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 4>come to find, like, moments before her hour of death,

1086
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 4>she placed the call to her hairdresser confirming her appointment

1087
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:41.359
<v Speaker 4>for the next morning. These are just things a suicidal

1088
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 4>person on the brink of death would not be doing.

1089
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 4>And again, the bear dresser did not say that she

1090
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 4>had any indication of thinking this person was on pills

1091
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 4>or overdosed in anyway. She was coherent, she didn't have

1092
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:03.159
<v Speaker 4>any slurds, each nothing. She confirmed her hair appointment for

1093
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 4>the next morning. She also, like a few days prior

1094
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:15.760
<v Speaker 4>to this, had a session with her psychiatrist, and her

1095
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 4>psychiatrists was saying, like in what good spirits she was,

1096
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:21.560
<v Speaker 4>that she had a bunch of projects coming up that

1097
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 4>she was really looking forward to, that she felt like

1098
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:29.119
<v Speaker 4>she had turned her life around and things were looking up,

1099
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, she just kills herself.

1100
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 4>And Netflix and HBO Max loved to portray her as

1101
01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:45.159
<v Speaker 4>this depressed, suicidal maniac that was just you know, at

1102
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 4>her wits end. And couldn't take it anymore and just

1103
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.159
<v Speaker 4>murdered herself. But that is not the story, Like, that's

1104
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 4>just not the case. A lot of people talked about

1105
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 4>how she was on the upswing, how her doctors were

1106
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:04.399
<v Speaker 4>wean her off of medication. You know, she called and

1107
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:07.319
<v Speaker 4>confirmed a hair appointment. She talked to her friend on

1108
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 4>the phone, like these are just things. You know, Robert

1109
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 4>Kennedy was seen at her house earlier that day, like

1110
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.640
<v Speaker 4>the birthday party. You start adding up all of this

1111
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:23.399
<v Speaker 4>shit together, and it to me points more in the

1112
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:27.880
<v Speaker 4>direction of, uh, you know, what did she know? Who

1113
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 4>was she about to tell?

1114
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Because he made him He made a threat. She

1115
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:36.399
<v Speaker 2>made a threat like if you do this to me

1116
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 2>and you embarrass me, I'm gonna sing like the bitch

1117
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 2>that I am. Because she comes off you know she's

1118
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a bitch. I mean she shows up at a party

1119
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and his wife is there. You know that's bitchy shit.

1120
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 4>You know she already definitely and if she was a

1121
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:58.279
<v Speaker 4>programmed multiple, which I think that she was, you have

1122
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:04.119
<v Speaker 4>to wonder what all she you and what information she

1123
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:09.760
<v Speaker 4>had gathered that she could have started, you know, singing about.

1124
01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 4>And there was an aspect of her probably one of

1125
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:19.760
<v Speaker 4>her personalities that was a great business woman. She made

1126
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 4>great business decisions, and she made really great career decisions actually,

1127
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 4>And so that's why I say when you look at

1128
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 4>her and there's actually a poster of her where they

1129
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 4>put like a big monarch butterfly over her face, and

1130
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.520
<v Speaker 4>to me, again, that just seems like they're telling you

1131
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.399
<v Speaker 4>without telling you. But she was probably a programmed multiple

1132
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 4>and like one of her personalities was really smart about shit.

1133
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:52.079
<v Speaker 4>And there was like probably her alpha personality that was

1134
01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:56.000
<v Speaker 4>like Norma Jean, like the broken person that grew up

1135
01:13:56.039 --> 01:14:01.119
<v Speaker 4>in an orphanage and was like wanting love and all

1136
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:03.119
<v Speaker 4>the things. And she, like you said, she had a

1137
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch of miscarriages, and I'm sure that in some ways

1138
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 4>she was a depressed person. I think maybe her alpha

1139
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.119
<v Speaker 4>personality was a depressed person. And then like her her

1140
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:20.359
<v Speaker 4>programmed personality was like a devious, bitch, crazy path like yeah,

1141
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 4>like catch me outside type shit.

1142
01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's from the streets, right, you don't grow up

1143
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.760
<v Speaker 2>in orphanages and foster homes and you don't know how

1144
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:31.159
<v Speaker 2>to fight.

1145
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 4>She knows how the night or yeah, that night after

1146
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:39.800
<v Speaker 4>the birthday party, because she was all over the Kennedys,

1147
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.720
<v Speaker 4>both of them, just flaunting her shit left and right.

1148
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 4>And that night, the CIA showed up at the hotel

1149
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 4>rooms of all these reporters who were taking pictures of

1150
01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Maryland with the Kennedy brothers, and they confiscated all of

1151
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:05.079
<v Speaker 4>their shit. They confiscated all the photos. They even confiscated

1152
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:08.439
<v Speaker 4>some of the cameras, and like they're well there, and

1153
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:12.439
<v Speaker 4>they were like, you are not to write anything about

1154
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.399
<v Speaker 4>Marilyn and the Kennedy brothers. You are not to write anything.

1155
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 4>So you know already this cover up had begun, and

1156
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.520
<v Speaker 4>Jackie was fucking pissed off. I'm sure pissed off.

1157
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I would be pissed because you know, she already gave

1158
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 2>up one of her kids for him to get into office.

1159
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, it's true, like they had a really bad

1160
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.600
<v Speaker 2>death of one of their kids. Like if you've done

1161
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>all this sacrifice and then this girl shows up, like,

1162
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I'd be pissed.

1163
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:46.239
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that you bring that up because I covered

1164
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:49.359
<v Speaker 4>in another episode in Don't Get Me to Lie, and

1165
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.439
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember which one it was, but I talked

1166
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 4>about Martha Moxley because her death was super fucking suspicious

1167
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.439
<v Speaker 4>and it turned out that it was one of Ethel's.

1168
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Nephews. Oh nephew okay, murdered her with a golf club. Wow.

1169
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And they covered that whole ship up, Like.

1170
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I heard that episode. She was at a

1171
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 2>birthday party or something, and then they they tried to

1172
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 2>cover they were rich or something. Yes, because I remember this, yep,

1173
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I remember.

1174
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:28.960
<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't be the first time that they right, it

1175
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:31.079
<v Speaker 4>would be the first time, like they fucked around and

1176
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.880
<v Speaker 4>killed somebody and then the fucking the whole thing gets

1177
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 4>covered up just because he's a Kennedy y so.

1178
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, and maybe that was he was given the line

1179
01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:43.079
<v Speaker 2>like you're cleaning up your sloppy, fucking mess because look

1180
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:47.279
<v Speaker 2>at this, you're creating an embarrassment not only for yourself,

1181
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:49.439
<v Speaker 2>but now for the nation because that happened at a

1182
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:52.880
<v Speaker 2>birthday party for the president, Like I mean, you know,

1183
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.039
<v Speaker 2>or she could be a spy, you know, I don't know.

1184
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Ethel was was kind of unfortunately looking. I

1185
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you ever no, I know, but I'm saying.

1186
01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying Ethel though, if you were gonna get jealous,

1187
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's not the one, because like she already

1188
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 4>is unfortunate looking. She's already it's like, look at all

1189
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.479
<v Speaker 4>this ship I've done for you, and like you're just

1190
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:26.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna launch yourself around with you know. It was just

1191
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:31.239
<v Speaker 4>like that one with that and then Jack supposed to

1192
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.039
<v Speaker 4>like she she had a trip plan to go to

1193
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:36.520
<v Speaker 4>like France or some ship like that, and then heard

1194
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:38.399
<v Speaker 4>that Marilyn was going to be at the party and

1195
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 4>canceled all of her plans so she could be there

1196
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:43.960
<v Speaker 4>or something. I don't know, but the thing is.

1197
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.720
<v Speaker 2>But she she was. She was completely opposite of Marylyn.

1198
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 2>So if you're gonna be jealous of somebody like you'd

1199
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.000
<v Speaker 2>be like, why didn't you sleep with somebody like me?

1200
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Like this chick looks Yeah, that's.

1201
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Like the ultimate, the ultimate, isn't it? You cheated on

1202
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 4>someone who looks nothing like me? But I don't think

1203
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:11.520
<v Speaker 4>that he he discriminated. I think that woman.

1204
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talk about his counting the boy who they were

1205
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.279
<v Speaker 2>just hooking up left and right like show. Yeah. I

1206
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:22.439
<v Speaker 2>thought he was gonna die as a kid, So he's

1207
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:24.920
<v Speaker 2>living it up now because he was real sick when

1208
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:31.399
<v Speaker 2>he was young and that's why. Yeah, yeah he was bedridden, but.

1209
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:33.680
<v Speaker 4>So so wasn't Joseph Smith.

1210
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:41.000
<v Speaker 6>But yes, yes, I it's a full circle moment telling you.

1211
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.840
<v Speaker 4>But if you want to believe it was the Kennedy's fine,

1212
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:45.560
<v Speaker 4>If you want to believe it was the mob to

1213
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.800
<v Speaker 4>frame the Kennedy's fine. If you want to believe that

1214
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.960
<v Speaker 4>the CIA had some part to do with it, fine.

1215
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:56.199
<v Speaker 4>But at least you can agree that she didn't kill herself.

1216
01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Who you want to to attribute it to, I mean,

1217
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I think is up for speculation because none of us

1218
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.279
<v Speaker 4>really can know for sure. We can kind of like

1219
01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 4>put the pieces together of like who she was fucking

1220
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.399
<v Speaker 4>with and like her connections and kind of go from there.

1221
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:19.279
<v Speaker 4>But I almost kind of like leave it. Yeah, well

1222
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, I kind of like to leave

1223
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 4>it as to choose your own adventure, kind of because

1224
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 4>it gives the listener an opportunity to look into it

1225
01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:29.039
<v Speaker 4>for themselves and see who they think they want to

1226
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:31.239
<v Speaker 4>blame it on. But if I were to just say

1227
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:33.319
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent one way or the other who I

1228
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 4>thought it was, I really I really don't know and

1229
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:39.680
<v Speaker 4>could be wrong. So I hate to say for sure,

1230
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:44.800
<v Speaker 4>but I'm leaning more towards the Kennedys. And every time

1231
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.399
<v Speaker 4>I do this presentation, I start to lean even more

1232
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:51.720
<v Speaker 4>towards them, because it just the birthday party really was

1233
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.520
<v Speaker 4>like the nail and the coffin for her especially, and

1234
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 4>they found that like piece of paper in her bed

1235
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:03.840
<v Speaker 4>with like the office phone number on it, and that

1236
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:07.319
<v Speaker 4>disappeared out of evidence and stuff, and it just.

1237
01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't you find it completely okay? Either two things

1238
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.279
<v Speaker 2>are at play on this next little piece. Either JFK

1239
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Junior saw some shit because he conveniently disappeared right with

1240
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 2>his wife. Or I always wondered about that when he

1241
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.359
<v Speaker 2>disappeared on his little airplane, like did he know something

1242
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:28.920
<v Speaker 2>and he was gonna be like, I'm gonna tell some

1243
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:34.079
<v Speaker 2>stories here, and or his mom made some karmic bad

1244
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:38.760
<v Speaker 2>decisions like something over on that, you know, like, well,

1245
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.159
<v Speaker 2>in that family's cursed.

1246
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.039
<v Speaker 4>That family, they're all cursed. And I mean, you know,

1247
01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:46.920
<v Speaker 4>they say that lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place,

1248
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.720
<v Speaker 4>But what are the odds that RFK Junior and his

1249
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:52.119
<v Speaker 4>sister both sound like they have fucking turettes?

1250
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. And then on top of it, you know,

1251
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.119
<v Speaker 2>there was another brother that died. John F. Kennedy's brother

1252
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I think died before because he wasn't supposed to be

1253
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the one because he was sickly. I think there was

1254
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:07.800
<v Speaker 2>another one. I can't remember for sure for sure, but.

1255
01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:12.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like all the the QAnon stuff with like JFK.

1256
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Junior that was back and but like there are so

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01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.039
<v Speaker 4>many that he's not the only one. But I have

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01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:23.439
<v Speaker 4>spoken about on other episodes how sacrificial it is to

1259
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:27.439
<v Speaker 4>die in an airplane accident, because like Buddy Hawley, I

1260
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:31.840
<v Speaker 4>talked about with the Laurel Canyon stuff, how his death

1261
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:35.880
<v Speaker 4>ushered in the counterculture movement and they all died in

1262
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 4>that airplane. John Denver died in an airplane. Aliyah died

1263
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:44.239
<v Speaker 4>in an airplane. This one guy that was researching Big

1264
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Bopper a Big Bobber and Richie Valence. But the there

1265
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:55.000
<v Speaker 4>was this guy who was researching the Franklin scandal with

1266
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:58.960
<v Speaker 4>all those boys that were getting molested and raped, and

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01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.520
<v Speaker 4>he died in an airport plane. Kobe died in an airplane.

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01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.119
<v Speaker 4>It's just like if you if you really look at it,

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01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:10.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these are super super super uh suspicious

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01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:17.279
<v Speaker 4>And JFK. Junior is just one of many who got

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01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:21.199
<v Speaker 4>the old Kobe. Well, he came before Kobe, So I

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01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:23.159
<v Speaker 4>can't really say he got yobed.

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01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.239
<v Speaker 2>But well, uh, you know that's a lot of them

1274
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:29.560
<v Speaker 2>because she lost like another kid before that, she lost him.

1275
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it's something on that family. Man, it

1276
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is scary. And I'm not saying RFK currently like but

1277
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about his bloodline. We're talking about bloodlines here right,

1278
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Like it's bad and scary, but like, who knows. I

1279
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>know his dad made some really big deals with the

1280
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 2>devil to get those boys in.

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01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.279
<v Speaker 4>So and it's just like I said before, Uh, it's

1282
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:56.640
<v Speaker 4>all to do with the Kennedys and how sacrificial this

1283
01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:00.199
<v Speaker 4>whole thing is because after Maryland, it wasn't very long

1284
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.800
<v Speaker 4>after that John F. Kennedy got the axe, and then Roberts.

1285
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And then and then his son, How's Arry, you know.

1286
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.760
<v Speaker 4>So I think it was like, what was it like

1287
01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:15.159
<v Speaker 4>maybe a couple months or a few uh six months

1288
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 4>or something. August for nineteen sixty two is when Marilyn

1289
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:25.560
<v Speaker 4>got it. In November nineteen sixty three is when John

1290
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:30.039
<v Speaker 4>got it, so literally a year a year, Heidi. So

1291
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 4>that makes me think, like this is just all a

1292
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:38.520
<v Speaker 4>domino effect kind of, and if we're gonna go with

1293
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:41.960
<v Speaker 4>that that Marilyn got it and then a year later

1294
01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 4>John got it. Maybe it wasn't the Kennedys that killed

1295
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:49.359
<v Speaker 4>Marylyn because they got killed too, So maybe there was

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01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 4>a CIA. Maybe there is. That's why I say it's

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01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.520
<v Speaker 4>to choose your own adventure. But I do want the

1298
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.239
<v Speaker 4>listeners to know that she didn't kill herself.

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01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:01.119
<v Speaker 2>No, she did not. I don't. I don't believe that.

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01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I do want to mention Jacqueline Kennedy on Nassas. She

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01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>had four children. One was a stillborn and that was

1302
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>their first child was a miscarriage, and then Patrick Bouvie

1303
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>A Kennedy died two days after birth from a serious

1304
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>lung ailment. And then John F. Kennedy Junior died in

1305
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>a plane. And the only surviving child is a girl,

1306
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Carolyn Booby a Kennedy.

1307
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

1308
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:39.159
<v Speaker 6>And actually they totally did. And there is a letter

1309
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.199
<v Speaker 6>my mom told me about this. There is a letter

1310
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:49.279
<v Speaker 6>that Jackie wrote to Caroline that or maybe she'd no,

1311
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:52.399
<v Speaker 6>it's a letter that Jackie wrote that can't be opened

1312
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:58.560
<v Speaker 6>until Caroline dies. So whatever is in that, I mean,

1313
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:02.079
<v Speaker 6>we'll see. But she robs and she said.

1314
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 4>This cannot be open or read until Carolyn has died.

1315
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Would you would you leave that alone? Because there's no way.

1316
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting a day. I'm waiting a day and I'm

1317
01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>opening Oh wait, hang on, mom mhm. But thinks that

1318
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting a day. I'm waiting a day and I'm

1319
01:25:36.039 --> 01:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>opening the letter I'm.

1320
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:43.239
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, letter one hundred because whatever is in it is

1321
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:48.199
<v Speaker 4>obviously so significant that she doesn't want it read in

1322
01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:53.279
<v Speaker 4>front of her. But it's probably to do with and

1323
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:57.319
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I've been kind of looking into the

1324
01:25:57.439 --> 01:26:02.840
<v Speaker 4>JFK thing a little bit more, and I'm starting to think, heiiti,

1325
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:07.119
<v Speaker 4>just hear me out. The whole Zapruder film, in the

1326
01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:11.760
<v Speaker 4>whole bad bang is staged, and that's all fake footage.

1327
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I totally don't you know who was there? Don't you

1328
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.239
<v Speaker 2>you know who was there? Was Papa Bush. Papa Bush

1329
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:21.640
<v Speaker 2>was there that day. You look into Papa Bush and

1330
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>you'll find your answers. He was telling you he was, Yeah,

1331
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:26.199
<v Speaker 2>he was.

1332
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.319
<v Speaker 4>That's another one that's in this book that I feel

1333
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.840
<v Speaker 4>like everybody should read again. It's called dead wrong. But

1334
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:39.199
<v Speaker 4>the circumstances surrounding everybody knows like John F. Kennedy was

1335
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 4>not killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. But the Portruiter film, Dude,

1336
01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:47.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm almost a hundred that that is all fake.

1337
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.239
<v Speaker 4>And I'm you know, the doctors at Parkland pretty much

1338
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 4>said that his head was exploded. You know, there was,

1339
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:04.279
<v Speaker 4>and so it's just it's just I don't know, girl,

1340
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:09.039
<v Speaker 4>like the blatant obvious lies that we're meant to believe,

1341
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:15.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, regarding Maryland, regarding jfk Uh. You know, it's

1342
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:21.479
<v Speaker 4>just for me if I guarded people Aliyah for sure,

1343
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:24.800
<v Speaker 4>and like how the whole Beyonce jay Z thing and

1344
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:28.520
<v Speaker 4>it's such a part of our culture that we are

1345
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.640
<v Speaker 4>just you know, some people are waking up to it.

1346
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:34.119
<v Speaker 4>I think that they do throw some people at us

1347
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:37.640
<v Speaker 4>just to distract us, like like the Diddy parties and

1348
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:40.640
<v Speaker 4>all this, and Tom Hanks. I think that they throw

1349
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:44.039
<v Speaker 4>those out there as like sacrificial lambs to be like, oh, yeah,

1350
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.920
<v Speaker 4>let's give them a little bit of of the truth

1351
01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:49.800
<v Speaker 4>and distract them while we do all this other fucked

1352
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:54.279
<v Speaker 4>up shit. So, I mean, I'm I'm glad that people

1353
01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:56.560
<v Speaker 4>are waking up to the idea that we're living a

1354
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:00.000
<v Speaker 4>lie and that a lot of this stuff is just

1355
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.840
<v Speaker 4>blatant lies. And you know it's like, who cares Marilyn

1356
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:08.640
<v Speaker 4>died so long ago. Well, she's still idolized, she's still

1357
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:12.720
<v Speaker 4>very much a part of pop culture. They're still making

1358
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:16.520
<v Speaker 4>documentaries about her, they're still feeding us this lie that

1359
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.920
<v Speaker 4>she killed herself. Because if people start waking up to

1360
01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 4>the reality that if back in the sixties and even

1361
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:28.560
<v Speaker 4>before that, they were able to so easily, you know,

1362
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.239
<v Speaker 4>it goes all the way back to like the fake

1363
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.680
<v Speaker 4>moon landing, the fake this like everything that we've we've

1364
01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:38.640
<v Speaker 4>come to know as fact and as part of our

1365
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.640
<v Speaker 4>life and as part of our culture has just turned

1366
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:45.920
<v Speaker 4>out to be a huge fucking lie. Mm Yeah.

1367
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, convenient, Yeah, it's convenient because it's

1368
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>all well, and it all means something like these are

1369
01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>magical things done in a specific, very specific way, just

1370
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>like I'm older than you and the Challenger, the Space

1371
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Shuttle Challenger accident that didn't really happen. You can look

1372
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:09.199
<v Speaker 2>these people up and they're still freaking alive. Like now, you.

1373
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Got's a great example.

1374
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was meant to torture us and nine

1375
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>to eleven for you know, your generation, like it's meant

1376
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to torture. People like to see this thing happen on

1377
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>TV and they're like, ooh, sorry about it. But somehow

1378
01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.279
<v Speaker 2>that was the one time, you know, they put all

1379
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the kids that put it on every TV in the

1380
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>freaking school.

1381
01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:33.560
<v Speaker 4>No, you did that on purpose, you know. And you know, Heidi,

1382
01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:37.159
<v Speaker 4>I covered a whole episode on John Denver because I

1383
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:40.479
<v Speaker 4>do think that he had something going on that he

1384
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:43.560
<v Speaker 4>wasn't really like. People don't remember him for this. They

1385
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.159
<v Speaker 4>remember him as being like a foulk country singer. But

1386
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:50.640
<v Speaker 4>he was involved in NASA. He was involved in a

1387
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:53.479
<v Speaker 4>lot of these weird governmental things. He was friends with

1388
01:29:53.560 --> 01:30:01.199
<v Speaker 4>two presidents, and he was supposed to be on the

1389
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Challenger that day. He had his fucking suit ready to go,

1390
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:10.359
<v Speaker 4>He had his fucking they they were gonna announce it

1391
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:13.640
<v Speaker 4>to everyone that John Denver was gonna be on the Challenger,

1392
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:15.840
<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden something came up and

1393
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:17.079
<v Speaker 4>he couldn't be on it.

1394
01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Of course not.

1395
01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:22.239
<v Speaker 4>And then he like the people song about it. Yeah,

1396
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 4>he wrote a song about it that was like you

1397
01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:29.239
<v Speaker 4>you they were flying for me, Like basically they were

1398
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 4>flying in his place and they died and he didn't.

1399
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.399
<v Speaker 4>And then you find out they didn't die either, and

1400
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.560
<v Speaker 4>it's just like, oh, come, But then he did supposedly

1401
01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:43.199
<v Speaker 4>die in a plane accident later on, and they couldn't

1402
01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.279
<v Speaker 4>never explain really what went wrong with his air his

1403
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:50.439
<v Speaker 4>jet that it would have crashed that way. And he's

1404
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:52.399
<v Speaker 4>one of the ones that a lot of people think

1405
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:54.279
<v Speaker 4>could possibly still be alive.

1406
01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Ah makes you wonder, you know, strangely thing you know

1407
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>what happened, and stranger things have happened. And we only

1408
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>have jet rocket propulsion because Jack Parsons was out masturbating

1409
01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>in the desert, So man, you can fact chuck me.

1410
01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>People like these things. We only have supercomputers because some

1411
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:18.399
<v Speaker 2>guy was digging under his house talking to gnomes. So yeah,

1412
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you know. That's what I'm.

1413
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Saying though, is like people are so like I don't

1414
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.159
<v Speaker 4>want to say that they're ignorant or anything, but they

1415
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:34.840
<v Speaker 4>are just it's just so much easier to believe whatever

1416
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:38.720
<v Speaker 4>they give us as the explanation than to look into

1417
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:41.279
<v Speaker 4>doing all this mess, because like you get to a

1418
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.039
<v Speaker 4>point where you're you get kind of like bummed out

1419
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>almost that, Yeah, you get a little bummed because these

1420
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:52.000
<v Speaker 4>things and like how many people out there, like we

1421
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.760
<v Speaker 4>were saying at the beginning of the episode. Have always

1422
01:31:54.800 --> 01:32:00.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of idolized Marilyn and have have been felt so

1423
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.439
<v Speaker 4>sorry for her that she felt like she needed to

1424
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:06.840
<v Speaker 4>end her life, and the reality is actually so much

1425
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.439
<v Speaker 4>sadder that she was held down and literally and literally

1426
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:15.640
<v Speaker 4>sodomized with a fucking deadly injection up the ass, Like

1427
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:17.880
<v Speaker 4>it's just you.

1428
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Know, did they mention anything about what Joe DiMaggio might

1429
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:24.039
<v Speaker 2>think about this, because I know he was a key

1430
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:28.279
<v Speaker 2>player in her life and actually after her death, he.

1431
01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Was very close with her. Well. He had said that

1432
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.920
<v Speaker 4>she called him a few days before this all happened

1433
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:42.119
<v Speaker 4>and she was upset about relationship issues. And then it's

1434
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>like I said before, they saw Robert at her house

1435
01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:50.760
<v Speaker 4>that day, which they say plays a part in why

1436
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:55.399
<v Speaker 4>if it was the mob and they had her phones

1437
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:58.520
<v Speaker 4>tapped and they knew Robert was coming over that morning,

1438
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:01.880
<v Speaker 4>why they might have chosen to do it that day

1439
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:06.119
<v Speaker 4>to again frame it to look like it was the Kennedys,

1440
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:11.399
<v Speaker 4>And because they did eventually end up killing John and Robert.

1441
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:14.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm still kind of on the fence as to whether

1442
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:18.079
<v Speaker 4>it could have been the mob framing the Kennedys, or

1443
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:24.319
<v Speaker 4>because Jay Edgar Hoover got involved in the cleanup after

1444
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Marylyn was murdered. That the CIA could have played a

1445
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>little part to doing it as well. But maybe Jackie

1446
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:34.039
<v Speaker 4>ran that bitch.

1447
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Jackie ran that clean up crew, and she's like

1448
01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>off with all their heads.

1449
01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, because there was even gosh, I'm blanking on

1450
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:47.760
<v Speaker 4>his name, but the brother in law of one of

1451
01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:53.399
<v Speaker 4>the Kennedys had like this beach house that Marylyn would

1452
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.039
<v Speaker 4>go to all the time with the Kennedys, and they

1453
01:33:56.079 --> 01:34:00.359
<v Speaker 4>had that house tapped too, So no matter where she was,

1454
01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>she was always under surveillance. She was becoming emotionally sexually

1455
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:09.479
<v Speaker 4>involved with these people, and then you know it's like

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01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:14.159
<v Speaker 4>the woman scorned thing, and you know, God only knows

1457
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:15.000
<v Speaker 4>what all.

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01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, could could she's an international with her being

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01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>an international asset, you know, it makes me wonder, especially

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01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>with that letter, like maybe that letter is about her

1461
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and and she's some big spy and she freaking took

1462
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.359
<v Speaker 2>them all out, Like maybe that was the whole plan.

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01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. You know, she made sure that bloodline, if so,

1464
01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>they made sure that bloodline didn't proceed as far as

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01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:45.319
<v Speaker 2>John F. Kennedy's bloodline himself. They're all dead, all the boys,

1466
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>they're all.

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01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Dead, and which makes you think again, like it probably

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01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:54.840
<v Speaker 4>wasn't the Kennedy sent So that's why I always say

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01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:59.479
<v Speaker 4>it's it's just like a choose your own adventure. You

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01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 4>can go one of three ways. Really, if there's a

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01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>fourth possibility, you know, out there, I'd love to hear it,

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01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:09.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody has a fourth option. But for me,

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01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:13.279
<v Speaker 4>I've narrowed it down to the three that it was

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01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:16.760
<v Speaker 4>either the Kennedys, the CIA, or the mob, because those

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01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:20.840
<v Speaker 4>were the three people, the three entities that could have

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01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:23.960
<v Speaker 4>stood to gain the most from her death. And when

1477
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:26.840
<v Speaker 4>something like this happens, you always have to ask why

1478
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:31.159
<v Speaker 4>and who benefits from it, And those three entities stood

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01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:36.680
<v Speaker 4>to gain the most from her death. And so that's

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01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:39.479
<v Speaker 4>who I've whittled it down to. But especially with them,

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01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:44.119
<v Speaker 4>like I said, John Elton, John wrote the song talking

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01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:48.560
<v Speaker 4>about her being nude, and the newspapers talking about her

1483
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:52.800
<v Speaker 4>being nude, and the pills and the staged glass of

1484
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:56.439
<v Speaker 4>water with the staged knocked over pill bottle that wouldn't

1485
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:00.720
<v Speaker 4>have even been enough to kill her. It's just all theater.

1486
01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:04.840
<v Speaker 4>And I do feel sorry for her I do think

1487
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:09.079
<v Speaker 4>she had a horribly tough life and it ended in

1488
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:15.000
<v Speaker 4>an even more horribly tough way. And I just think

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01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:18.520
<v Speaker 4>it's such an insult to her for them to keep

1490
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 4>propagating the idea in all of these documentaries that she

1491
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:26.079
<v Speaker 4>was so depressed that she did this to herself, because

1492
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:30.199
<v Speaker 4>there's just absolutely no physical way for her to have

1493
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:33.520
<v Speaker 4>done this to herself. And also, how many dead bodies

1494
01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.319
<v Speaker 4>do you know, roll around fucking after they're dead?

1495
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Ye?

1496
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:40.439
<v Speaker 4>Like it just you know, Heidi, it's just not and

1497
01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:47.039
<v Speaker 4>too it's almost like to shame her naked, no makeup on, hair,

1498
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:52.119
<v Speaker 4>messed up, face all bloated, and you know, taking pictures

1499
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:56.760
<v Speaker 4>of her, and then to say she did that to herself,

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01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>it's just well.

1501
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And then when they brought her kind of when when

1502
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.359
<v Speaker 2>they brought her out on the gurney when she was

1503
01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>passed away, the weird thing that I thought that they

1504
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:08.479
<v Speaker 2>did is they only placed like a cheese cloth on

1505
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:11.479
<v Speaker 2>her face like it was kind of see through, instead

1506
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:13.800
<v Speaker 2>of putting her in a body bag. Why didn't they

1507
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>put her in a body bags?

1508
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.960
<v Speaker 4>And then and then her body goes missing, then they

1509
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:23.159
<v Speaker 4>can't find her organs, Then they can't find the autopsy

1510
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:28.319
<v Speaker 4>reports later on, then the housekeeper focks off to Europe,

1511
01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:32.800
<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, the timeline doesn't add up. They

1512
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:37.680
<v Speaker 4>bury this this police officer, uh, Sergeant Jack Clemens. They

1513
01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:41.840
<v Speaker 4>buried his ass. They all but threatened his job because

1514
01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:44.680
<v Speaker 4>he kept saying he wanted to testify and they kept

1515
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:51.079
<v Speaker 4>saying no. And so I mean, it's just like, even

1516
01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>if you want to go on the very bare basics

1517
01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:57.680
<v Speaker 4>of what we know to be true about uh pill

1518
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:04.159
<v Speaker 4>overdoses with like the the throw up in the regurgitated material,

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01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:09.039
<v Speaker 4>why wasn't that at the crime scene if that's what happened?

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01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah, the whole thing doesn't make sense. The

1521
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.640
<v Speaker 2>whole thing seems super sketchy. And I'm just like, I

1522
01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:23.720
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't buy it for sure. Oh there, yeah,

1523
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:27.399
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I'm with you. I'm not sure who.

1524
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:30.159
<v Speaker 4>But Heidi, I think you need to refresh again. It's

1525
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:31.119
<v Speaker 4>all glitched out.

1526
01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh uh oh, all right, well with the with

1527
01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>that will end because it's being a pain, and also

1528
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>because she's laid it all out for you guys, She's

1529
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.159
<v Speaker 2>told you where to find the information. I think it's

1530
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.720
<v Speaker 2>really uh definitely laid out on the table that she

1531
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.359
<v Speaker 2>did not kill herself, and I don't believe Kurt Cobain

1532
01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:54.039
<v Speaker 2>did either. For that matter, there's a bunch of them

1533
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:58.039
<v Speaker 2>that I don't think did, and so you know, we

1534
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:00.640
<v Speaker 2>can we can look into it and people can say

1535
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:04.359
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter, but it does matter because his bloodline

1536
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:08.159
<v Speaker 2>just got into office via Donald Trump, so sort of

1537
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>does matter in the long end of things, you know,

1538
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.079
<v Speaker 2>with that, Julia, any final.

1539
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Words, Well, thank you so much for having me. I

1540
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:22.560
<v Speaker 4>always love discussing this topic because I feel like it's

1541
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:24.800
<v Speaker 4>one that a lot of people like. It hits home

1542
01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:30.159
<v Speaker 4>for them because they have like such a fondness for her,

1543
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:36.399
<v Speaker 4>and they're it's someone that's easily recognizable, you know. It's

1544
01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:40.479
<v Speaker 4>it's not like I'm talking about some obscure person who

1545
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:45.640
<v Speaker 4>the CIA fucking stage the death of or everybody knows

1546
01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:50.279
<v Speaker 4>who Marilyn is and it's so fucking sad. I can

1547
01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.600
<v Speaker 4>get people on board with this cover up, it'll be

1548
01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:59.000
<v Speaker 4>easier for them to digest all the other cover ups. Yeah,

1549
01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:01.760
<v Speaker 4>but no, Yeah, thank you so much for having me,

1550
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:04.319
<v Speaker 4>and I hope I hope the listeners learned a thing

1551
01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:05.159
<v Speaker 4>or two today.

1552
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, and let people know where they can find you

1553
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>in about your new series that you mentioned. Heidi there, yep,

1554
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm here. It's being really weird. I don't know what's happening.

1555
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Can you hear me?

1556
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's glitching out on me, but okay, if you want,

1557
01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:30.439
<v Speaker 4>I just plugged my stuff real quick, and.

1558
01:40:30.479 --> 01:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah. Let people know where

1559
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>they can find your new series and where to find you.

1560
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:40.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I have a three new series out right now.

1561
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:44.000
<v Speaker 4>I have The Pedaphocracy, Uncle Sam Wants Your Children, and

1562
01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Program to Kill. They're all available right now. If you

1563
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:51.880
<v Speaker 4>want early access to all of those episodes and bonus content,

1564
01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:56.239
<v Speaker 4>you can find me on Patreon Cosmic Peach podcast. The

1565
01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.199
<v Speaker 4>patreon is called Room two three seven, and you can

1566
01:40:59.279 --> 01:41:01.880
<v Speaker 4>check in there get early access to all of my

1567
01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:06.319
<v Speaker 4>episodes and the bonus content. You can also find me

1568
01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:10.680
<v Speaker 4>if you just google it. I'm on Spotify or Apple

1569
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:14.319
<v Speaker 4>or wherever you listen to podcasts, and I'm always down

1570
01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:19.800
<v Speaker 4>to bring some new listeners over to the show and

1571
01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:23.600
<v Speaker 4>blow blow your mind with some interesting shit.

1572
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Well, I'm glad we got through all

1573
01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>this and taught the listeners a thing or two. I

1574
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>always adored Marilyn and I thought she got the raw end,

1575
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>so I definitely wanted to do something. After I saw

1576
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>your show, I thought it was great. So thank you again,

1577
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:42.680
<v Speaker 2>my sweet friend, for coming on and letting everybody know.

1578
01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, great show. Welles look so bad

1579
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:01.720
<v Speaker 3>about why want?

1580
01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Say you.

1581
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Want some of them?

1582
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Won't they give you some of them?

1583
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:17.279
<v Speaker 6>Some of them want?

1584
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Tell me
