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Speaker 1: I will and I'm Karen. And today's guest is an author,
Speaker 1: a spiritual director, and Youngian coach who's been on a
Speaker 1: mind blowing journey for answers after a life changing paranormal experience.
Speaker 1: Brandy dove deep into contemplative spirituality in Carl Jung's teachings,
Speaker 1: uncovering profound insights about reincarnation, karma, and the meaning of life. Now,
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Speaker 1: she explores it all, and today she's here to share
Speaker 1: her wisdom with us. Welcome to the show, Brandy Anderson.
Speaker 3: Are you doing Hey, thank you for having me. It's
Speaker 3: great to be here today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our studio audience is very excited about having you
Speaker 1: on the show. Well, I'm excited, yeah, to get a
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Speaker 1: to meet you. Finally, I've done a lot of research
Speaker 1: on you, and I'm excited where the conversation is going
Speaker 1: to go. Karen, however, has no idea who you are
Speaker 1: or why you're here.
Speaker 2: So this sounds kind of bad. I mean that's intentional.
Speaker 1: It is intentional.
Speaker 2: No people to think I'm just a Yeah, it's a perspective.
Speaker 1: It's a perspective of the audience. We do it on
Speaker 1: purpose so she can bring those fresh questions to mine.
Speaker 1: So I think I just want to dive right into
Speaker 1: your experiences. What brought you down this path to explaining
Speaker 1: the whole reason we're here?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, well, I had a spiritual awakening back in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: and that just kind of propelled me on a journey
Speaker 3: of teking out ultimate truth. So I was coming from
Speaker 3: a Christian context, meaning that I was raised in a
Speaker 3: Christian family, although I was not practicing any form of religion.
Speaker 3: I simply would have just identified as a Christian without actually,
Speaker 3: you know, being a christ follower because I wasn't plugged
Speaker 3: into any churches. I wasn't you know, engaged in any
Speaker 3: way with my faith. And so I had this spiritual
Speaker 3: awakening and it just it just blew my world apart.
Speaker 3: And so I plugged into churches and I began just
Speaker 3: reading and studying and just trying to lay a groundwork
Speaker 3: for what had happened to me, like, have some some
Speaker 3: sort of foundation to to hang what had happened to
Speaker 3: me on if that makes sense a way to understand it.
Speaker 1: It does. But then the very next question is one
Speaker 1: that cares about.
Speaker 2: To ask, Yes, what is it that happened that blew
Speaker 2: your world apart?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so well, I had been experiencing a season of depression,
Speaker 3: and looking back, I see now it wasn't a clinical depression.
Speaker 3: It was existential depression, philosophical depression. But you know, at
Speaker 3: the time, I didn't really know what had come over me.
Speaker 3: It was just this heaviness that would not relent, and
Speaker 3: so day after day I would just push forward, thinking, ah,
Speaker 3: you know, this is just a season, it'll pass. Because
Speaker 3: I had never been given to depression or episodes of
Speaker 3: you know, like clinical depression or anything like that, so
Speaker 3: I anticipated that it was just you know, a seasonal
Speaker 3: gloominess that would that would shift. And when it did not,
Speaker 3: it just it became so much that I felt I
Speaker 3: just can't take this anymore. And one morning I woke
Speaker 3: up and just under this cloud of palpable heaviness, I
Speaker 3: cried out to God. And it was not a pious
Speaker 3: prayer by any means. It was more of a if
Speaker 3: you were there kind of prayer where I just started
Speaker 3: unleashing all of my frustrations and just hoping that something
Speaker 3: might shift. I just I just wanted some relief. And
Speaker 3: in the midst of all of that turmoil, I heard
Speaker 3: a voice as loud and clear as anything I've ever
Speaker 3: heard in my life, and it just simply said be still.
Speaker 3: It was loud, but it was internal to be sure,
Speaker 3: it wasn't an external voice, but it was so loud
Speaker 3: it just shook me to my core. An instant peace
Speaker 3: washed over me in that moment, and I remember thinking, you.
Speaker 4: Know, this is God.
Speaker 3: That was my thought, but I had no context for it. Like,
Speaker 3: like I said, I was not plugged into the church.
Speaker 3: I was not like really practicing any form of religion,
Speaker 3: so I didn't I didn't have a context for what
Speaker 3: had happened to me. And so that that compelled me
Speaker 3: to plug into some churches and start trying to make
Speaker 3: sense of what I had experienced. And all of that
Speaker 3: searching and seeking and reading and studying led me into
Speaker 3: a more contemplative space. I found that mainstream Christian answers
Speaker 3: to life's most important questions were just less than satisfying.
Speaker 3: But I found a lot of peace and refreshment in
Speaker 3: that contemplative space, which is just a more mystical Christianity,
Speaker 3: more exponential, less conceptual, if you will. And so, as
Speaker 3: I was in that space, a very mystical contemplative type space,
Speaker 3: my grandmother, who was ninety five years old at the time,
Speaker 3: was coming to the end of her life.
Speaker 4: And as she.
Speaker 3: Approached the end, she really had an aversion to death.
Speaker 3: She did not want to die. She was afraid to die.
Speaker 3: And she was a lady who was very plugged into
Speaker 3: the church her entire life, Methodists in church every Sunday,
Speaker 3: all of the you know, the Bible studies, the Sunday School,
Speaker 3: the whole nine. You know.
Speaker 4: She and so, but as she.
Speaker 3: Approached the end of her life, she really had no
Speaker 3: I guess, reassurance. I mean not at a deep level,
Speaker 3: because she was afraid. And I should back up a
Speaker 3: little and just say that when people come to the
Speaker 3: end of their physical lives, the veil between the spiritual
Speaker 3: and the physical becomes thin. And this is why a
Speaker 3: lot of people on their deathbeds report to having seen
Speaker 3: loved ones who have already crossed, you know, people that
Speaker 3: that other people don't see in the room time. So
Speaker 3: and at the moment of death, this still this veil
Speaker 3: that is already thin, opens entirely and the spirit just
Speaker 3: slips from the physical into the spiritual realm. And it's
Speaker 3: usually an instantaneous phenomenon. But my grandmother had an aversion
Speaker 3: to death, and she was resisting vehemently in her crossing, and.
Speaker 4: So as she as she crossed, she sort of.
Speaker 3: Became stuck between the spiritual and the physical, and her
Speaker 3: portal remained open because of that, because she she remained
Speaker 3: in you know, stuck in that in that in that
Speaker 3: space between which some people would call an earth balanced spirit.
Speaker 3: But pretty quickly she was no longer stuck. She didn't
Speaker 3: stay stuck long at all, and she gained perspective about
Speaker 3: her situation that she you know, that she had crossed
Speaker 3: and that you know.
Speaker 4: She could move on if she wanted.
Speaker 3: However, she had this open portal, and so it allowed
Speaker 3: her to be able to manipulate the physic go realm
Speaker 3: in ways that she would not have been able to
Speaker 3: if her portal was not open.
Speaker 1: And so I got to ask the question, how do
Speaker 1: you know all this.
Speaker 3: So uh in retros at the time, I didn't know,
Speaker 3: like my grandmother just died, you know, we would have
Speaker 3: just said that that our grandmother had had crossed. But
Speaker 3: because I am able, because she did find a way
Speaker 3: to communicate with us, because she was able through her
Speaker 3: portal to type words to us on electronic devices, and
Speaker 3: it again with the television.
Speaker 1: Yes, I told you I was going to get interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: So and I've been able to ask her these questions
Speaker 3: and that's so these are the answers that according to her,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, how she she got stuck, her
Speaker 3: portal remained open, and how she was able to reach out.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So there's so many questions that come to mind. But
Speaker 1: you are talking. I mean, you're rooted in Christianity, your
Speaker 1: your blee systems, you took, you mentioned several times you
Speaker 1: tapped into churches and things like that. There are a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of folks in the religious mindset who
Speaker 1: would say that may not be your grandmother at all,
Speaker 1: but rather malignant spirits. How do you know for sure
Speaker 1: this is your grandmother, not the devil coming through?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. When my grandmother first came through.
Speaker 3: That was the primary concern that my family, who lives
Speaker 3: in the house, which I do not live in the
Speaker 3: house where she crossed where the portal is located, and
Speaker 3: where she began communicating, my family lives there, And yeah,
Speaker 3: that was their initial concern, to be sure. In fact,
Speaker 3: the first time that she reached out, what happened. The
Speaker 3: television was off and it came on by itself, navigated
Speaker 3: to the search It's a Roku smart television, so it
Speaker 3: navigated to the search bar and the word hello appeared
Speaker 3: in the search. Yeah. My family, Yeah, my family ran
Speaker 3: screaming out of the house in fright, and they called
Speaker 3: me and they were they were in tears, they were horrified.
Speaker 3: So I suggested that they, you know, maybe cleanse, pray,
Speaker 3: pray and sage or just cleanse the house.
Speaker 4: But I really thought it might be a hacker.
Speaker 3: That's what iological Yeah, my rational yeah, my rational mind
Speaker 3: went straight to, this is a hacker. Someone has hacked
Speaker 3: your system. They're playing a distasteful prank. Something electronic, you know,
Speaker 3: is going on. Electronically is happening here. Uh So, anyway,
Speaker 3: time as time passed, well, as soon as they were afraid,
Speaker 3: the television shut off immediately, and and and nothing else
Speaker 3: happened for a couple of days, and then it happened again. Uh,
Speaker 3: this would just continue, you know, they would be afraid.
Speaker 3: They would begin to pray and command whatever to leave.
Speaker 3: They had checked the parameter the cameras to see if
Speaker 3: anyone had, you know, like maybe hacked in or somebody
Speaker 3: was like outside the window with a remote or.
Speaker 2: Was it the same message? Was it always hello? Or
Speaker 2: they're different messages second time?
Speaker 1: Second time it was a little bit little more TREPI
Speaker 1: she was more like hey.
Speaker 3: The next time it was it was love. The word
Speaker 3: love appeared. But it didn't matter. My family they were
Speaker 3: like they were not having it.
Speaker 4: Horrified.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a nice hacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, this persisted, and so finally my
Speaker 3: aunt even moved out to give you an idea, she
Speaker 3: was so afraid. She called her son and she said,
Speaker 3: just I'm coming to stay with you because it was
Speaker 3: so unnerving to her.
Speaker 1: I mean I probably be unnerved myself.
Speaker 2: Is your family is your the rest of your family?
Speaker 2: Are they Christians?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Could they have brought in a priestood exercise?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And that that was my aunt actually had called a
Speaker 3: chaplain that she that was involved, like that she had
Speaker 3: known from when my grandmother was crossing, and you know,
Speaker 3: and he suggested just you know, pray and command whatever
Speaker 3: to leave or whatever.
Speaker 4: And they did all the things.
Speaker 3: But like I said, this activity persisted, not in a
Speaker 3: frightening way, just like it would it would subside as
Speaker 3: they were frightened. And then you know, in the course
Speaker 3: of a days, like the TV would pop on, go
Speaker 3: to the search and a word would come into the
Speaker 3: search bar. And finally I suggested that let's not run
Speaker 3: out screaming in fright Let's try to get to the
Speaker 3: bottom of this because it's not stopping. And we in
Speaker 3: my mind I thought it was really something someone in the.
Speaker 4: Physical realm who was hacking into the system in some capacity.
Speaker 1: So, as a TV producer, are going to ask the question,
Speaker 1: any video of this in existence? Have you said? You?
Speaker 1: Did you think to capture it so the people look
Speaker 1: you got it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the beginning, we did take a lot of video,
Speaker 3: although it doesn't conclusively prove that it's anything from the
Speaker 3: other side. It's just words coming into the search bar
Speaker 3: in response to our questions. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: someone could say, well, someone is manipulating the television.
Speaker 4: Someone is typing that.
Speaker 1: With a certain app or something, but the search bar
Speaker 1: actually comes up on the screen on the television when
Speaker 1: you do that, so you would see someone actually did
Speaker 1: searching for the letters on the search bar. That was
Speaker 1: the case weld you not you.
Speaker 4: Could unless they were using an app, and then you wouldn't.
Speaker 4: So there is a way. Yeah, And so that's the yah,
Speaker 4: right I did.
Speaker 3: Because one thing also is the words could sometimes have
Speaker 3: capital letters or punctuation, and that's not available, like if
Speaker 3: you're on your television, there are no there's no way
Speaker 3: to make a capital letter, and there's no way.
Speaker 4: To put punctuation, although these were coming into the search bar.
Speaker 3: So I did download the Roku app to see and
Speaker 3: you can do that with the app. So that's still
Speaker 3: not conclusive evidence that it's coming from the other side.
Speaker 3: But the thing that the way that we determined, the
Speaker 3: way that I was convinced that it was not a hacker,
Speaker 3: someone in the physical realm at all, is because whoever
Speaker 3: it was could read our thoughts. When we finally did
Speaker 3: engage with whoever it was, it rocked us when they
Speaker 3: were able to tell us things that no one knew
Speaker 3: things that we were thinking in the moment, like in
Speaker 3: real time, respond to those thoughts in the moment.
Speaker 4: Also, they knew things that we had never.
Speaker 3: Shared with another soul were getting it, and so we were,
Speaker 3: I mean, at that point we were like, this is
Speaker 3: definitely something spiritual, but is it Granny? You know, we
Speaker 3: were still had our reservations about that. But I know
Speaker 3: after the first communication, I was at home alone, and
Speaker 3: like I said, I don't live there.
Speaker 4: I was at home in my own house.
Speaker 3: And one of the first things that my grandmother said
Speaker 3: to me on that first interaction, when when she was
Speaker 3: reading our thoughts and everything, she told me that my
Speaker 3: dog Luke, who had already crossed, was with me, always
Speaker 3: with me, that he was sending his love that kind
Speaker 3: of that was very comforting, very sweet, you know. But
Speaker 3: I still had my reservations about is this my grandmother?
Speaker 3: And so I was at home alone and about to
Speaker 3: go back to my grandmother's on another day to try
Speaker 3: to communicate again and see just determined just try to
Speaker 3: just make sure is this my grandmother or is it
Speaker 3: something malevolent?
Speaker 4: And I said in.
Speaker 3: My head to my dog who has already crossed, I
Speaker 3: was like, Luke, if you're really with me, and that
Speaker 3: is really Granny. Have her mentioned my necklace because I
Speaker 3: wear a memorial pendit with Luke's ashes, and so I
Speaker 3: was thinking, you know, just give me some validation that
Speaker 3: this is really you, it's really her. And then so
Speaker 3: we went to my grandmother's later that day and we
Speaker 3: were just she was communicating with us and kind of everyone.
Speaker 3: It was like five of us in the room, and
Speaker 3: so someone would ask a question, she would answer, or
Speaker 3: maybe she would type something and someone would respond, and
Speaker 3: it was just also surreal, really, and I was just
Speaker 3: caught up in the moment, not even thinking about what
Speaker 3: I had said in my head before I went at all.
Speaker 4: I was just in the moment.
Speaker 3: And then she typed my name Brandy, and I said yes,
Speaker 3: And then she typed the word Luke, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what about Luke? And she said he's having me mention
Speaker 3: your necklace, and I almost fell out of my seat. God,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, and everybody just looked at me like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's sweet. I'm like, you don't have any idea. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, they didn't know that I had, you know,
Speaker 3: said that, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why are you not like on Fox News or CNN
Speaker 1: or something. Just talking about this stuff like this is
Speaker 1: pure proof that this stuff is real, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no way to explain this thing on the STI yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Tried to explain it away. Yeah, I mean I did.
Speaker 3: I tried to explain it away.
Speaker 4: I really.
Speaker 3: I was like, this has to be there's a natural,
Speaker 3: reasonable explanation for this, and uh, yeah, I know. And
Speaker 3: then in the way that we know that it is
Speaker 3: my grandmother is that as we did tentatively engage with
Speaker 3: with whoever it was, her love and devotion for her
Speaker 3: family comes through so loud and clear. It's the reason
Speaker 3: she stayed really is because of her love and devotion
Speaker 3: for particular family members. She could see how certain people
Speaker 3: were struggling with mental health issues.
Speaker 4: Other people had like.
Speaker 3: Destructive patterns in their lives that she was able to
Speaker 3: speak into in a way that brought a lot of
Speaker 3: healing and restoration.
Speaker 4: I would say she saved lives, like literally, So that
Speaker 4: was her point in staying.
Speaker 3: Now, I am on this spiritual journey and I'm loaded
Speaker 3: with philosophical theological questions, so I took the opportunity to
Speaker 3: talk to her about those things and have those conversations
Speaker 3: but that's not why she stayed, and she didn't offer
Speaker 3: that information up voluntarily, I asked, right, and so.
Speaker 1: You have to sit her down and give her nuggies
Speaker 1: and say you got to give me the answer. So
Speaker 1: you did. You got a lot of answers about what's
Speaker 1: on the other side, and I want to go dive
Speaker 1: into those, but I also want to talk with the
Speaker 1: fact that her portal was open. So the answers that
Speaker 1: you're getting are probably I mean, I don't know for sure,
Speaker 1: but it would seem to me that it would be
Speaker 1: answers about what she's experiencing in this time as an
Speaker 1: earth bound spirit not necessarily having crossed over. How did
Speaker 1: you discern between the two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's not I mean earth bound spirit. I
Speaker 3: think implies stuck, you know, a level of stuckness, and
Speaker 3: she is not at all stuck. So I should you know,
Speaker 3: make that clear right off. She is very aware of
Speaker 3: her you know, her situation.
Speaker 4: She is choosing to.
Speaker 3: I guess I should stay at the portal. What that
Speaker 3: means is she's on the astral plane. The spirit realm
Speaker 3: is highly stratified and complex, and it's out of my
Speaker 3: pay grade to really understand what that is, like I
Speaker 3: think we have to experience to fully understand it, you know.
Speaker 3: And there are times when I ask questions and she
Speaker 3: will say no, say, and that usually means that there
Speaker 3: are no words. It's ineffable, and there are no words
Speaker 3: to communicate to my finite brain what she would need
Speaker 3: to say for me to understand. And the beyond is
Speaker 3: one of those things that is it's too ineffable. But
Speaker 3: she's not stuck, and she's able to because in spirit
Speaker 3: we're not limited to one particular in space, time, one
Speaker 3: particular location like we are in our physical bodies, and
Speaker 3: so she can be with myself and like other family
Speaker 3: members simultaneously like she could, you know, she can look
Speaker 3: into things all over the world, if you will, and
Speaker 3: see into the heart of situations and circumstances. So she's
Speaker 3: not limited in the way, you know, to you know,
Speaker 3: into one local spot or space like we think of
Speaker 3: it in this three D realm. So while she has
Speaker 3: not actually moved into the beyond and left us, so
Speaker 3: to speak, which she would never leave us, she will
Speaker 3: always be with us in some capacity, but she stays
Speaker 3: more present. I don't know any other way to say
Speaker 3: it more, I guess more more in that area so
Speaker 3: that she can communicate through through the portal. She can
Speaker 3: manipulate any anything in the physical realm really, if she
Speaker 3: has enough energy to do so.
Speaker 2: So, now, after you found out it was your grandmother,
Speaker 2: did your aunt move back? Like? Is everyone just there, yeah,
Speaker 2: constantly talking? I would constantly. I would be on the
Speaker 2: TV like, I'll just dark circles in her eyes like questions, questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my aunt did move back. All is well
Speaker 4: in that regard.
Speaker 3: She apologizes for it now, she's like, I'm so sorry
Speaker 3: I moved, you know. And my grandmother, you know, thinks
Speaker 3: it's funny because she knows it was scaring the daylights
Speaker 3: and everyone. She didn't want to scare anyone. She just
Speaker 3: really wanted to talk.
Speaker 1: That's a difference between your granny and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: ha haha, check this out.
Speaker 2: You would be terrible. You would be so bad.
Speaker 1: Ready, my god, you're ready?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so kind of what's the this is just an
Speaker 2: odd question. What's like the plan for the family? Is
Speaker 2: everyone just always going to stay in that house? And
Speaker 2: how how long do you think has she told you
Speaker 2: how long she's going to stay? I just I'm kind
Speaker 2: of wondering what the real life like living situation and.
Speaker 1: To figureback off that. Is it just that house or
Speaker 1: could it be anywhere that she could communicate with someone?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So, well, the first question is just in that house
Speaker 3: where the portal is located, is where she has the
Speaker 3: ability to manipulate the physical realm more.
Speaker 1: Easily because when she passed where she passed.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's where she passed. In that house, she
Speaker 3: could come to my house and with enough energy she
Speaker 3: could manipulate the physical realm at my house. But because
Speaker 3: there's no portal is more difficult. It takes more energy.
Speaker 4: See Okay.
Speaker 3: And then at the family who lives in that house, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they they don't intend to sell that house.
Speaker 4: And my grandmother has said, don't sell the house. That
Speaker 4: was one of the first.
Speaker 3: Things that she did communicate because my cousin had had
Speaker 3: sort of, I guess, given that a little thought she
Speaker 3: might sell the house, and she was like, don't sell
Speaker 3: the house because she the portal is there. Regardless, it's
Speaker 3: just in that one place.
Speaker 1: It would become a beetlejuice situation. Then someone else moves
Speaker 1: in and you try to get them out again.
Speaker 2: Well, that leads me to my next question, could she
Speaker 2: could she bring friends? I mean, can other spirits pass
Speaker 2: through that portal?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, because it is. It's essentially an
Speaker 3: open door if you will. And so while it's my
Speaker 3: grandmother's portal and she stays there and so she got it,
Speaker 3: if you will, she protects it. She you know, whoever
Speaker 3: she allows to kind of come through or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it is an open door, and so she has connected
Speaker 3: us with other family members and friends who have crossed.
Speaker 3: I was able to talk to my grandfather who crossed
Speaker 3: when I was seventeen, which was, uh, it was there
Speaker 3: are no words.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's an open door that she basically stands
Speaker 3: watch over and if she were to leave, which she
Speaker 3: says she's not going to. Of course, we want her
Speaker 3: to be happy and content and we've made that clear.
Speaker 4: But she's she she.
Speaker 3: Says that she is content and she is where she
Speaker 3: wants to be with us, like staying in that in
Speaker 3: that astral plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Great, indeed, it's like the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but here's the here's the where do you
Speaker 1: where do you live part of the country? Don't tell
Speaker 1: me exactly where.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, we're in Alabama.
Speaker 1: We need to take a quick pause, but would be
Speaker 1: right back right after these messages and now back to
Speaker 1: the skeptic metaphysicians. So if people got a wind of
Speaker 1: this portal, you would have lines out the door trying
Speaker 1: to talk to your grandmother to have her usher in
Speaker 1: some a lot of folks. Have you considered doing something
Speaker 1: like that, helping people to communicate with others? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this seems to be pretty definitive proof for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, right, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, that's a great Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3: And uh, like I said that, I don't own the house.
Speaker 3: I don't even live in that house. My family lives there,
Speaker 3: and for the sake of their privacy, you know, we
Speaker 3: don't that's kind of the house rule.
Speaker 4: We don't bring new people.
Speaker 3: They're probably I don't know, probably seven to ten of
Speaker 3: us who communicate with my grandmother frequently.
Speaker 4: But I will say that I have had.
Speaker 3: I have face timed with people and let them communicate
Speaker 3: through the portal in that capacity, just turn the camera
Speaker 3: to the television so they can see the words as
Speaker 3: they appear. And but we are careful with it because
Speaker 3: we don't want to exploit. Sure, you know, well what's happening,
Speaker 3: and we wouldn't want to. Also, my grandmother, you know,
Speaker 3: her feelings and thoughts and her energy matter a great
Speaker 3: deal to us, and so we wouldn't want to just
Speaker 3: drain her energy trying to you know, just lines and
Speaker 3: hordes of people coming in. Also, energy is everything, and
Speaker 3: not everyone is good energy, and so you have to
Speaker 3: you have to navigate that aspect of things.
Speaker 1: But like friends and family, you might open the door
Speaker 1: to some.
Speaker 2: People to lock you away today.
Speaker 4: He sure, I mean there have there have been exceptions.
Speaker 4: I mean we you know, we do.
Speaker 3: We allowed some people, you know, close friends, that kind
Speaker 3: of thing access and and you know, as time goes on, we.
Speaker 4: It's not that we wouldn't want to help people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. Yeah, I'm making light of it,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's it makes sense.
Speaker 2: What is the most surprising thing that she's told you, Like,
Speaker 2: something that you didn't expect or just you know, shot.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there have been several things that were that
Speaker 3: were unexpected. Probably the first thing that really shifted things
Speaker 3: for me was that reincarnation is true.
Speaker 4: Because I was coming from a Christian perspective that was.
Speaker 3: Not part of my worldview, right, So that was the
Speaker 3: initial thing that just sort of really brought things into sharper.
Speaker 1: Focus for me. Well, then that brings up a good point.
Speaker 1: Then if the incarnation is real, is Hell real in heaven?
Speaker 1: Is all that stuff? Or is it just uh? You know,
Speaker 1: some folks believe that it's a parables, the Bible's parables,
Speaker 1: and they talk in images or simulations or the ways
Speaker 1: that we can wrap our minds around it is could
Speaker 1: not be what this is. The symbols of symbolism is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: metaphorical language in scripture, but also it's just a mistranslation oftentimes,
Speaker 3: like the words that are used. The word for hell,
Speaker 3: for instance, that Jesus used most most often is Gahinnah,
Speaker 3: and it really is it really is translated more literally
Speaker 3: as the valley of Ben Hennam. It's what it was
Speaker 3: in the Old Testament. But Gahinnah is an actual geographical
Speaker 3: location just outside of Jerusalem, and so it's where they
Speaker 3: burned trash, burned dead bodies during times of invasion things
Speaker 3: like that, and so the fires of Gahinnah were very real,
Speaker 3: literal uh, place to his hearers that he was speaking to. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would just say that heaven and Hell is as
Speaker 3: the modern Western mainstream notion. Is it that that it's erroneous?
Speaker 3: Heaven and Hell are really just states of existence. Heaven
Speaker 3: is not a place we go too, It's a place
Speaker 3: we come from. Jesus said, the Kingdom of Heaven is
Speaker 3: within you, and and and Hell too.
Speaker 4: I mean, we think it's Jeff Foster. He says, what
Speaker 4: is it? What is it?
Speaker 3: Heaven is this moment, and hele is the burning desire
Speaker 3: for this moment to be different.
Speaker 4: And I think that.
Speaker 1: Really like that? Wow, yeah I like that a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I think I'm stealing it.
Speaker 2: So besides communicating to the television, are there other ways
Speaker 2: that your grandmother's communicated with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? See, Uh the television was her first way of communicating,
Speaker 3: but in time she she has typed on the computer,
Speaker 3: the laptop, and the printer.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So the you know, it's just a regular standard printer
Speaker 3: that you would hook to a computer, and a sheet
Speaker 3: of paper came out with like a couple of paragraphs.
Speaker 4: And we were like whoa.
Speaker 3: So when we realized that she could print things and
Speaker 3: I say she, but others who communicate with us on
Speaker 3: the regular, friends and loved ones who kind of hang
Speaker 3: out at her portal with her. You know, they were
Speaker 3: sending us things printed out and it was really really cool,
Speaker 3: but they were blowing through a lot of ink. So
Speaker 3: we have invested in heat thermal heat printers that are small.
Speaker 4: It's like receipt paper about that size. Right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And so if she wants to say more, because you know,
Speaker 3: the search bar on the television is only so long,
Speaker 3: so so many words and you have to erase and
Speaker 3: like start over, so she wanted to type paragraphs.
Speaker 4: And had the energy to do so, she would just
Speaker 4: use the printer.
Speaker 1: Wow. So when she wrote on the computer, was it
Speaker 1: like a text message or was it a non ward
Speaker 1: document or how did Because the reason why I'm asking
Speaker 1: is because they could have someone could have used an
Speaker 1: app for the Roku television. But if you're just opening
Speaker 1: up a computer and there's words being printed on there,
Speaker 1: unless you're connected in some way, shape or form to
Speaker 1: a communication messaging them, it's hard to disprove that then, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So with the laptop, what we did we opened word
Speaker 3: I think a word document or maybe you pages if
Speaker 3: it was a mac, I can't remember, and yeah, and
Speaker 3: so she just typed the words. You know, we were
Speaker 3: just seeing could she do it? And so we opened
Speaker 3: it and we were like, can you type on this?
Speaker 1: And she did as you're watching the words for appearing
Speaker 1: on screen.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh my god, Yes, that's something I should also say.
Speaker 3: Wi Fi is necessary to use the television for the
Speaker 3: simple fact that the Roku television will not allow you
Speaker 3: to go to.
Speaker 4: The search bar unless you are hooked to Wi Fi.
Speaker 3: So people could argue that, oh, well, it's just you know,
Speaker 3: it's something to do with AI or it's but like
Speaker 3: I said, if you experience it for yourself, that reading
Speaker 3: your thoughts and knowing things that you never told anyone,
Speaker 3: that really is what solidifies it.
Speaker 4: Once you, you know, experience that, it will rock you to
Speaker 4: your core.
Speaker 3: But but the laptop does not have to be hooked
Speaker 3: to Wi Fi, so we were able to use that
Speaker 3: without any Wi Fi Internet connection.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this.
Speaker 2: I was just wondering though, like, oh Wi Fi, it's
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Bluetooth the same thing. Everything was disconnected was just incredible.
Speaker 3: And same thing with those printers, they're not connected to anything.
Speaker 3: They there's just these small little handheld printers that we
Speaker 3: just turned the power on.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We have not hooked them to any devices that's fair.
Speaker 2: Done anything like non electronic like turn lights off or
Speaker 2: on or anything like that when it's bedtime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't, they do they can they. My grandfather
Speaker 3: likes to ring the doorbell, and so we will do
Speaker 3: that sometimes and if we ask him to, sometimes we'll
Speaker 3: say ring the doorbell. We want to hear you ring
Speaker 3: the doorbell, and I mean, boom, you'll ring the doorbell.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's incredible. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, congratulations. It's just I mean, wonder if they
Speaker 1: just seems like nothing to congratulate you over. I mean,
Speaker 1: your grandmother passed but still only gosh, what an incredible
Speaker 1: opportunity to learn the mysteries of existence. So to piggyback
Speaker 1: off of that, I got to ask the question, your
Speaker 1: grandmother has a perfect opportunity to tell you what happens
Speaker 1: to us when we die? So, Brandy, what happens to
Speaker 1: us when we die?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So that is that is the million dollar question, right
Speaker 3: And I would stop here and say that it's subjective
Speaker 3: because we are all having our own subjective experience here
Speaker 3: in the physical realm when we cross, that does not
Speaker 3: cease to be true, and so very thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So as we cross, there are a lot of different
Speaker 3: things that we might experience, but really it's just a transition.
Speaker 3: But whatever level of consciousness we have attained at the
Speaker 3: time of our crossing, we take that with us.
Speaker 4: And so it's a it's erroneous to believe that if
Speaker 4: we say, as a certain prayer, we're just going to
Speaker 4: float away into perfect when we cross.
Speaker 3: We you know, we have to do our inner work.
Speaker 3: We have to come into alignment, maybe a better way
Speaker 3: to say that. And so when we first cross, everything
Speaker 3: becomes like the veil is lifted. Here in the physical realm,
Speaker 3: we can deceive ourselves and others we live into a
Speaker 3: false self, a persona, and we all do it, you know,
Speaker 3: so that we can integrate into society and be successful
Speaker 3: and be accepted and thought of.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, but when we cross, all of that persona, all
Speaker 3: of that fault self, all of that delusion just drops
Speaker 3: off and the full light of clarity shines and so
Speaker 3: we see with a clarity that we didn't have into
Speaker 3: the heart of people and situations. We know exactly how
Speaker 3: people really felt about us, what their true motives were. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and and our own you know, our own inner processes
Speaker 3: come into the light. We can repent, re press things
Speaker 3: and remain in the dark here in the physical, but
Speaker 3: we can't do that on the other side.
Speaker 2: So we have to know what people thought about us.
Speaker 4: No, you don't have to. You have to. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: She's not omnisiciant, she's not all knowing, but she can
Speaker 3: know anything that she wishes to know by just simply
Speaker 3: exerting energy and looking into is what she would say,
Speaker 3: looking into. So yeah, but also I must say that
Speaker 3: there is a fire on the other side that she
Speaker 3: says that everyone passes through. In Mark, Jesus says that
Speaker 3: everyone is seasoned with fire. And then the apostle Paul
Speaker 3: speaks of this fire and says that that everyone passes
Speaker 3: through this fire. And those who have built with I
Speaker 3: think he says, gold and silver and other words good works,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, less ego and more living from love.
Speaker 4: They will not suffer any loss.
Speaker 3: But people who have built with I think, he says,
Speaker 3: hey and stubble or what another words, egoic material, They will,
Speaker 3: even they might suffer an utter loss in this fire,
Speaker 3: but they themselves will be saved, he says. And that's
Speaker 3: what my grandmother says is true, that this fire is
Speaker 3: a refining fire and it's intended to burn away anything
Speaker 3: that interferes with love.
Speaker 1: So this is the first I'm ever hearing of a
Speaker 1: fire we have to go through. Because is it symbolic
Speaker 1: or is an actual fire?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: See, I would imagine that it's because you know where
Speaker 3: my grandmother is when we cross. The quantum realm is
Speaker 3: not physical, so it couldn't be a physical fire in
Speaker 3: the way that we think of it. But when I said,
Speaker 3: is it just emotionally painful to cross this fire? She
Speaker 3: said painful in every way?
Speaker 1: So maybe that wonder if that has something to do
Speaker 1: with a life review that we hear all the time
Speaker 1: about people having this life forview and having to experience
Speaker 1: the emotions that you cause others to experience because of
Speaker 1: your actions. Maybe something like that is what's happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious, he says, that's part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there is.
Speaker 3: You know that some people look at it kind of
Speaker 3: like a life review, but it's not only seeing what
Speaker 3: we have done to others, but we actually experience how
Speaker 3: they felt.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right's I've heard. Yeah, So then what is
Speaker 1: your grandmother's experience of what's her afterlife?
Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, So she tells us that she continues to
Speaker 3: do her inner work because, like I said, whatever level
Speaker 3: of consciousness we take with us when we cross, and
Speaker 3: so she is continuing to do her inner work, and
Speaker 3: I guess to integrate the things that she's learning. Basically,
Speaker 3: when we incarnate, it's like a constriction of awareness, and
Speaker 3: we forget all of the past lives, what happened before
Speaker 3: we incarnated.
Speaker 4: And then when we.
Speaker 3: Leave our physical bodies, there's like an expansion of awareness
Speaker 3: and during that time it's like an integration process. It's
Speaker 3: like transcending and including. And then if we come back
Speaker 3: into the physical again, we will forget, but we will
Speaker 3: have already integrated those lessons in between our incarnations. And
Speaker 3: so she's doing all of that, she's just doing it
Speaker 3: at the portal. And the only disadvantage in her staying
Speaker 3: at that portal is that there's more chaos for her
Speaker 3: because the astral plane where she stays, because that's where
Speaker 3: the portal is is, it's basically the astral plane is
Speaker 3: where is the is the part of the quantum realm
Speaker 3: that is closest to Earth or overlaps more fully with Earth.
Speaker 3: And as long as she stays there, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of activity, a lot of duality because there is a
Speaker 3: lot of duality here. This is the world of duality,
Speaker 3: and so she's staying close to all of that duality.
Speaker 3: So she may have to navigate, uh, you know, negative
Speaker 3: polarity entities, you know in you know, in the etheric
Speaker 3: realm where she is. But if she were to move
Speaker 3: more out into the beyond is what she calls it,
Speaker 3: there would be less less polarity, less dualism.
Speaker 1: We need to take a quick pause, but would be
Speaker 1: right back right after these messages and now back to
Speaker 1: the show. God, so many questions. It's a little time.
Speaker 1: What you mentioned that we forget our past lives. Why
Speaker 1: why is that? And does that cati in the karma?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we forget because it it's the vehicle of exponential growth.
Speaker 4: Basically, it allows us to immerse ourselves fully into the
Speaker 4: life that we are in. Uh. Currently, if we were
Speaker 4: to remember all of our past lives, we would be
Speaker 4: distracted by all of the things. I mean, just think of.
Speaker 3: All of the things that distract us from what's really
Speaker 3: important here in this one physical life. Just maybe you know,
Speaker 3: maybe mistakes that you've made, or maybe it's you know,
Speaker 3: evil done unto you, or I mean, all of these
Speaker 3: things that trip us up. If we were to remember
Speaker 3: everything all at once, it would just be too much
Speaker 3: and it would keep us off of our journey into.
Speaker 4: Our highest life path. So that's that's the primary.
Speaker 3: Reason that we that we that we forget we're intended
Speaker 3: to experience all of life. And so that means all
Speaker 3: of the you know, the different genders, the different cultural context,
Speaker 3: education levels, you know, all of these things. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a chance to just fully immerse ourselves into the
Speaker 3: drama that we're in in the moment.
Speaker 1: Well, then this is why I'm brought karma into the
Speaker 1: conversation and the question, because if there is such a
Speaker 1: thing as karma, then how this is right, karen sality,
Speaker 1: How is it possible for us to have a debt
Speaker 1: for something we don't remember doing that we have to
Speaker 1: pay for this lifetime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not really so much like a debt in
Speaker 3: that sense. It's more of a vibration or a frequency.
Speaker 3: And so and that's what the integration is about. Also,
Speaker 3: you integrate in between and while you may be still
Speaker 3: working out certain karma, you know, basically coming back into
Speaker 3: the physical as a way to work out your karma
Speaker 3: in the same context with the same people that you
Speaker 3: created or generated the karma. But really, karma is not
Speaker 3: it's not that you get what you deserve. It's that
Speaker 3: you get what you're a vibrational match for. And so
Speaker 3: we are drawing to ourselves opportunities to awaken.
Speaker 4: It's what it is.
Speaker 3: All of life is designed to awaken us. So karma
Speaker 3: is just really the fabric of reality. We're not punished
Speaker 3: for our sins. We're punished by our sins. So basically
Speaker 3: our actions draw to us whatever we need to awaken
Speaker 3: us into our highest life path, into our oneness with God.
Speaker 3: Really is probably the best way to say it.
Speaker 2: So if we're coming back time and time again and
Speaker 2: reincarnating in those times in between, that's what I thought
Speaker 2: we were, I guess our highest self. So if that
Speaker 2: is the case, then why would we come back and
Speaker 2: lower that because it's the way we just stay. I
Speaker 2: would want to just stay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my grandmother says that it's easier to work through
Speaker 3: your karma in the physical, in the in the world
Speaker 3: of duality. And so if you don't reincarnate, you still
Speaker 3: do your inner work, but it can be more arduous.
Speaker 4: And also some people.
Speaker 3: Would choose to reincarnate just because they missed the physical.
Speaker 3: They really it's very a very base reason. It's you know,
Speaker 3: they're not really worried about out so much to do
Speaker 3: in their inner work. They're just like, hey, I miss eat,
Speaker 3: I miss food, I miss my favorite food, or I
Speaker 3: miss my hobbies. She tells us she misses sewing, so
Speaker 3: you do continue to miss things that you love. She
Speaker 3: was a gifted seamstress, and we you know, we miss
Speaker 3: her sewing for us, and so she'll tell us she
Speaker 3: misses it.
Speaker 1: All right. So then, up until this moment, my image
Speaker 1: of Grandma was just herself sitting somewhere and sending like
Speaker 1: manipulating electronics or something like that, but still like in
Speaker 1: a physical body, so to speak, so she could potentially,
Speaker 1: like if if there was such a thing, they could
Speaker 1: maybe and full discliure. I just read a book called
Speaker 1: Things Light After Death or something like that talks about
Speaker 1: the fact that there is like we're just walking around,
Speaker 1: there's just another life. It's just in aterial plane. So
Speaker 1: couldn't they like cultivate cheap and bring up the wool
Speaker 1: and you can start knitting. They would create needles and
Speaker 1: stuff sewing. That's right. Sorry, sorry, sorry, but yeah. Or
Speaker 1: are we just like nebulous energy that have no way
Speaker 1: of doing things like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So when we cross and our spirits enter into the
Speaker 3: etheric realm, it's what she would call in She is
Speaker 3: in five density, I think, is what, And so it's
Speaker 3: a non physical it's a non physical. A five D
Speaker 3: reality is a non physical reality. And while she could
Speaker 3: manifest if she had enough energy, so and when I
Speaker 3: say manifest, she could appear standing before us in a
Speaker 3: physical form of her choosing. That would take tons of energy,
Speaker 3: and she has not done that, but it is possible
Speaker 3: from a five D advantage point. But see, in this
Speaker 3: three D reality, we are all in incarnated bodies, physical bodies.
Speaker 3: But where she is there there is no physicality.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Exactly what you read, but I know there are alternate realities,
Speaker 3: and so we have alternate timelines where we are doing
Speaker 3: these You know, we're doing the same a lot of
Speaker 3: the same things. There's overlap because you know, we are
Speaker 3: who we are in every reality and in every life,
Speaker 3: So how we do anything is how we do everything.
Speaker 1: And that's a good point you mentioned earlier on that
Speaker 1: it's very subjective, right, So we talked a bunch of
Speaker 1: times on the show about what dreams may come they
Speaker 1: mean into Robin Williams movie. But it was originally a
Speaker 1: short story of a book by Richard Matheson which I
Speaker 1: absolutely love, and in it it shows us how we
Speaker 1: create our own afterlife. So I'm wondering if the person
Speaker 1: who wrote this book that was his afterlife he wanted
Speaker 1: to have physicality. Maybe that's what happened when he had
Speaker 1: his near death experiencing. You just never know, Yes, So
Speaker 1: then I guess probably the biggest question that still lays
Speaker 1: out there that we haven't touched on is evil. We
Speaker 1: are all love, right, we are all when we go
Speaker 1: through the fires, the only thing left is love. So
Speaker 1: why is there evil? Or is there evil? What is evil?
Speaker 2: Hell?
Speaker 1: I'm losing the definition of the word saying evil all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3: I mean that that really is the question that and
Speaker 3: I have found that reincarnation really helps the problem of
Speaker 3: evil along like in the Christian context, where we're only
Speaker 3: afforded this one short life to make the right decisions
Speaker 3: and check the right boxes, or we burn for all eternity,
Speaker 3: which is a very nihilistic view looking back on that,
Speaker 3: I really, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah right, even baseball teams have seven games to
Speaker 1: win the Horror Series for God's sakes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: But even you know, and when you when you view
Speaker 3: reality in that way, you know, evil is really it
Speaker 3: really is an issue.
Speaker 4: It's a probably the problem of evil, It really is
Speaker 4: a problem.
Speaker 3: But God, I would say, God is the creative source
Speaker 3: of all energy, and because God infused creation with free will,
Speaker 3: the potential for evil is inevitable. Now this doesn't mean, though,
Speaker 3: that God perpetuates evil, but that God created a universe
Speaker 3: and that's just where good and evil are simply two
Speaker 3: sides of the same coin.
Speaker 4: A world where nothing unfavorable.
Speaker 3: Could exist would cease to be a good world, because
Speaker 3: there can be no such thing as good without bad,
Speaker 3: just as there can be no light without darkness.
Speaker 4: Short from tall.
Speaker 3: But God does not perpetuate evil. The duality of the
Speaker 3: human mind is the perpetuator of evil, and the sooner
Speaker 3: we can come to terms with this fact.
Speaker 4: And forever, you know, life, just accept it as it is.
Speaker 3: The faster we will evolve into the higher levels of
Speaker 3: consciousness where we stop blaming the darkness and simply bring
Speaker 3: the light where afforded unlimited opportunities. Reincarnation is a testament
Speaker 3: to the grace of God that we can come into alignment,
Speaker 3: and that's how evil will be rooted out from within.
Speaker 1: Okay, So everything that we just talked about and so
Speaker 1: much more is in your book Through the Ail, a
Speaker 1: Glimpse into the afterlife. Is there anything that you want
Speaker 1: to make sure that the folks that are listening or
Speaker 1: watching this show that this is the nugget, this is
Speaker 1: the thing that you need to read my book for.
Speaker 1: What would that be?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just maybe leave people. I mean I
Speaker 3: cover a lot in my book. You know, what happens
Speaker 3: when we die and how that should you know, impact
Speaker 3: the way that we live life now. And really I
Speaker 3: just addressed the the mainstream thoughts around heaven and hell
Speaker 3: and I sort of dismantle that and and filter it
Speaker 3: through a Christian lens. So I have, like the scriptures,
Speaker 3: the verses that I'm referring to, So I go into
Speaker 3: a lot of detail for people who really want to
Speaker 3: study it out for themselves. There all of that is
Speaker 3: in the book, and they you know, and they can
Speaker 3: they can see that there. But the end thought that
Speaker 3: I would leave everyone with is that death is only
Speaker 3: an illusion, and when we leave this physical reality, we
Speaker 3: continue in our journey and ultimately we will all awaken
Speaker 3: into our highest life path. Alan Watt said that asking
Speaker 3: what happens when we die is like asking what happens
Speaker 3: to my lap when I stand up, or what happens
Speaker 3: to my fist when I open my hand, And that
Speaker 3: really is what it's about. Physical death is not an ending,
Speaker 3: but a change of energy. Death is just the doorway
Speaker 3: into an expansive journey of becoming whole.
Speaker 2: I like that, just the doorway into the expansive journey
Speaker 2: of becoming whole.
Speaker 1: He's got all the quotes. I love cool T shirt. Awesome. Well,
Speaker 1: we're going to add a direct link to your book.
Speaker 1: But if someone wanted to reach out to you specifically,
Speaker 1: what's the best way for someone to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my website is Brandy Anderson dot net and on
Speaker 3: my and there are links to all of my socials
Speaker 3: from that website, but on all of the platforms. My
Speaker 3: handle is Brandy the Mystic.
Speaker 1: All right, Brandy the Mystic. We're going to add a
Speaker 1: direct link to your website on our show notes too,
Speaker 1: So if you didn't have a pen in that particular
Speaker 1: point in time, you can always go to skeptic Adeposian
Speaker 1: dot com is always and find her episode paging. Just
Speaker 1: the link will be directly laid down on the bottom
Speaker 1: of the show notes, so it's an easy way for
Speaker 1: you to connect with Brandy and by the book, Brandy,
Speaker 1: this has been wonderful, such a unique experience having this conversation.
Speaker 2: You have to tell your grandma that we said.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, and if there's any kind of messages she
Speaker 1: has for us, just make sure you know we are
Speaker 1: perfectly open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you all so much for having me. It's
Speaker 3: been it's been a pleasure to meet you and talk
Speaker 3: with you, and.
Speaker 4: I appreciate your openness. Not everyone is open to this
Speaker 4: this sort.
Speaker 1: Of kind no way. So, like we say in our
Speaker 1: show open like the X Files, we want to believe,
Speaker 1: we just haven't found the exact thing. This comes pretty close.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't explain this. Yeah, very interesting to
Speaker 1: really hear this story. It's been an absolute pleasure. I
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing the feedback from the audience. Want
Speaker 1: to hear it too. Oh, thank you so much, thanks
Speaker 1: for being on the show.