Speaker 1: Well, damn it, Bill, I, Lannon and I are running
Speaker 1: on Chiefs High and Camas is running on fumes because
Speaker 1: you've been out all day, and boy do you have stories.
Speaker 1: I'm so sad about Kansas.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to start off this podcast with a monolog. No,
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with Kansas. You know what
Speaker 2: I did today my part time job. I'm a trainer
Speaker 2: at gym. I'm learning how to train people with golf.
Speaker 2: You know what I don't deal with is baseball. But
Speaker 2: today I dealt with baseball. And you know who I
Speaker 2: don't like to deal with. Our nine year old snot
Speaker 2: knows faster that play baseball. But you know what they
Speaker 2: didn't know. I was going to be the pitcher for
Speaker 2: batting practice. And there was one kid, this one kid
Speaker 2: that I could not stand. And I got up on
Speaker 2: that mound and I eyed him like I was scooball
Speaker 2: and let me tell you something. I might have allegedly
Speaker 2: thrown it right at his helmet and I was throwing underhand,
Speaker 2: but I let him know that I'm the boss, and
Speaker 2: I definitely looked at him and apologized right after. But
Speaker 2: that's how my day went. And now we get to
Speaker 2: talk about Kansas away twice in one game. One game wow,
Speaker 2: and the Lions didn't even play yesterday.
Speaker 1: Right on cue, I have the Duke North Carolina State
Speaker 1: game on the TV, Landon, Do you have this game on?
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: Somebody just fainted in the student section and they stretched
Speaker 1: out this like twenty year old, unconscious looking college kid
Speaker 1: right there. They stopped the game to get that person
Speaker 1: out of the student section. I think, hopefully, hopefully by
Speaker 1: the time this podcast comes out, that person has been
Speaker 1: found to be just fine. I think they just saw
Speaker 1: the footage of Kansas trying to inbound the basketball in
Speaker 1: either the last ten seconds of regulation or the last
Speaker 1: ten seconds of overtime, because well.
Speaker 2: The lifeless body of the stands was just Ryland Griffin
Speaker 2: being just so upset that his performance.
Speaker 3: I'm super tough when that person's brain dead and in
Speaker 3: a coma.
Speaker 1: I really think that we should just give Cam, give
Speaker 1: Cam the controls and stay the hell out of his way.
Speaker 1: But it was a mixed sports weekend here a lot
Speaker 1: of fans like, I don't know, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of Jayhawk fans are also Chiefs fans, so many
Speaker 1: of them probably don't even care about this loss anymore,
Speaker 1: because the all the Chiefs do is go to Super Bowls. Now.
Speaker 1: Uh but you know, well, we're still we're still reeling.
Speaker 1: Reeling is that the word? I don't know, we're still
Speaker 1: ready to talk about it. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: Kana just lost to Houston in two overtimes and Cam's
Speaker 1: about to lose a sanity. This is inside the pain
Speaker 1: on Ryan Landrath.
Speaker 2: I'm Landing Fields and I'm Calvin Samson's just degenerate looking son.
Speaker 2: That's a spinning image of himself.
Speaker 1: Here comes the recap.
Speaker 3: Is this gonna be Cam's Ryland Griffin game?
Speaker 1: This might be Cam's? This is Cam's Ryan and Landon
Speaker 1: t This is my sound right before the title show.
Speaker 2: This is my le Gerald Vic goes kicked off the
Speaker 2: team rant.
Speaker 1: I want to open you with an Nick Wiper quote.
Speaker 1: Remember him. He was on the show for a while
Speaker 1: and he sent us a text that said, Nick, there
Speaker 1: are so many children in Africa that are about to
Speaker 1: be so excited when there Bill's AFC champions t shirts arrive.
Speaker 1: And those kids probably thought that Kansas would never win
Speaker 1: a Big twelve title again after the twenty tens. But
Speaker 1: they're about to get back to back twenty three and
Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty four and twenty five Big twelve
Speaker 1: champions starts. Uh huh oh man, all right, that's funny.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, but it's funny. Right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Number seven Houston ninety two. I cannot even believe that's
Speaker 1: the real score. Number twelve Kansas eighty six.
Speaker 3: Coach Bill Sealth's stubborn ass.
Speaker 1: The game was good, the result was not land and
Speaker 1: give us a give us a game story, and then
Speaker 1: I am skinned. This is me running from the middle
Speaker 1: of the road into the shoulder of it to get
Speaker 1: the hell out of the way for Cam at three
Speaker 1: hundred miles hour to come through and tell us what
Speaker 1: he thought.
Speaker 2: Jim behind behind a Mayflower truck.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Wow, all right. I was gonna say, spare me
Speaker 3: but a moment to read something, but you you're ahead
Speaker 3: of me anyway. Okay, here's your game story, folks. In
Speaker 3: one of the best games of the season in the
Speaker 3: sport thus far, Kansas led by seven and a half
Speaker 3: and shook off a huge Houston run to build a
Speaker 3: sixty six to sixty lead with ninety seconds left. In regulation,
Speaker 3: they promptly blew that lead by committing a pivotal turnover
Speaker 3: on an inbounds pass will trying to run out the clock.
Speaker 3: In overtime, they again built a six point lead, leading
Speaker 3: seventy nine seventy three, securing a rebound with eighteen seconds left.
Speaker 3: That was good enough to give them a ninety nine
Speaker 3: point four percent win probability, and they only needed one
Speaker 3: more free throw to win the game. Dwan Harris missed
Speaker 3: two free throws, Houston may the three, Kansas threw away
Speaker 3: the inbounds pass again, and Houston made a second three
Speaker 3: to erase a six point deficit in eight second another
Speaker 3: overtime Flory Badunga pivotally fouled out in there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He felt out at the end of regulation. Actually, Kansas
Speaker 3: was kind of out of steam and they did not
Speaker 3: have a lot left, and they'd kind of had their
Speaker 3: heart stolen twice. Uh, and they could not recover, losing
Speaker 3: to the Cougars in that second overtime by the score
Speaker 3: where he read in an instant classic or horrible choke job,
Speaker 3: depending on what colors you're wearing. But that was a tough,
Speaker 3: one amazing game. If you're a neutral incredible game. If
Speaker 3: you're a Houston fan, incredible game. Cam, you are neither
Speaker 3: neutral nor a Houston fan. What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Billsoft popped a perk thirty because he had Zeke
Speaker 2: Mayo pass the ball in bounds twice when it filled.
Speaker 2: Kind of like he ran back the same guys from
Speaker 2: last year on this team. You know what, if it
Speaker 2: fails once, let's do it again. How just how.
Speaker 4: You have a senior led team. This is the oldest
Speaker 4: team Hunter Dickinson could be in a retirement home. Dwan
Speaker 4: Harris has played more games at Kansas than I've played
Speaker 4: games in NBA. Two k Just inbound the damn ball,
Speaker 4: throw it down the court. You have five what's you
Speaker 4: know what would be hilarious If they had just thrown
Speaker 4: the ball as far as they could, as far as
Speaker 4: they could, the end result would have been better.
Speaker 1: Just like, just throw it up and yeah, I've wondered
Speaker 1: throw it up at the Russell stover board. I don't care, man,
Speaker 1: Just like that's not there anymore. It's now. I think
Speaker 1: it's everaging now or something stupid.
Speaker 2: It's sound no, it's yeah, Travis Goff paid out money
Speaker 2: for that, but I don't think. First of all, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be semi semi calm now. The game sucked,
Speaker 2: at least in the ending. Kansas was good for ninety
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of that basketball game. The point
Speaker 2: zero one percent that they were not good in is
Speaker 2: the only part it matters nine, which.
Speaker 1: Also was their win expectancy in the second half when
Speaker 1: they were by six with just a few ticks left.
Speaker 2: And I always remember when Kansas won the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: It was just that I think I had only seen
Speaker 1: my favorite football team win like three super Bowls at
Speaker 1: that point or something, and maybe it was two, I
Speaker 1: don't remember.
Speaker 2: It was a while.
Speaker 1: Now. I watched this game out of which ta Twin Peaks,
Speaker 1: because that's where my sister lives, not at the Twin Peaks,
Speaker 1: but and.
Speaker 3: We were Peaks.
Speaker 1: Not does not work at Twin Peaks. We were down
Speaker 1: there visiting for the weekend, and the plan was we'll
Speaker 1: watch the Kansas game. I need a bar or something
Speaker 1: to watch, and it was come home.
Speaker 2: You you took a family family meal at a Twin Peaks.
Speaker 3: I need to know your sister. We used to be
Speaker 3: pretty good friends. She doesn't scream. Yeah, I just chill
Speaker 3: at Twin Peaks with my brother.
Speaker 1: No, no, I need a place that had a TV
Speaker 1: that I thought would have. The Jayhawks came on, and
Speaker 1: so that's what options. Well, that's let me tell you,
Speaker 1: there were plenty of TVs to watch every single angle
Speaker 1: of that splash that the that the Cougar has had
Speaker 1: with four seconds left, as it just right through the
Speaker 1: bottom of the neck. Well, anyway, so we watched this
Speaker 1: game and we think we're gonna be there two hours
Speaker 1: and then get on home, and boy, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: it was almost midnight by the time we made it
Speaker 1: back because the basketball game was three hours, and the
Speaker 1: fans around us started doing the rock chalk chant as
Speaker 1: the one Harris is walking to the free throw line
Speaker 1: with eighteen seconds left and a two score about to
Speaker 1: become three score lead, and then all that happened after
Speaker 1: that was Kansas didn't score again until the game was
Speaker 1: essentially salted away in the second time.
Speaker 2: That means you got a triple double of ass because
Speaker 2: you saw the ending of the Kansas and you're a
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks.
Speaker 1: Wellt me tell you.
Speaker 2: What is a Wichita seven.
Speaker 1: I'm not qualified to answer this question, nor do I
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea. But let me tell you
Speaker 1: a WIDGETA seven. I would have taken those seven points
Speaker 1: a seven point advantage. That would have been an unlucky
Speaker 1: number for Kansas. They didn't get better than six, and
Speaker 1: then it became negative. Which joke here, okay Land in question,
Speaker 1: I am curious about this question. It's simple. Was that
Speaker 1: game discouraging or disappointing?
Speaker 3: I'm firmly in camp disappointing. Yeah, it is a heck
Speaker 3: of a way to lose a basketball game, Don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong. Not that doesn't feel good, feels bad. You
Speaker 3: should have be a better team. You were better than
Speaker 3: a really good team for most of this game, at
Speaker 3: least as good as a really good team for most.
Speaker 2: Of this game.
Speaker 3: You had it, Kansas had this game wrapped multiple times
Speaker 3: and lost it multiple times. That is that's not good.
Speaker 3: Like that is undeniably bad. Like that is not a
Speaker 3: great trait. But at the same time, Houston is a
Speaker 3: very good basketball team. And literally two Camps point. If
Speaker 3: the the inbounds pass is simply thrown to half court
Speaker 3: or further and it is touched by anybody, the game
Speaker 3: is over in Kansas wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or if dwant Harris simply makes a free throw, the
Speaker 3: game is over in Kansas wins. And again those those
Speaker 3: are genuine mistakes, genuine errors, things that you have to
Speaker 3: be able to correct. Missing free throws is both an
Speaker 3: air and kind of flukey at the same time. That
Speaker 3: goes both ways. But I like we are like every
Speaker 3: every game. You can argue a lot in close games,
Speaker 3: especially it's like, well, if this one thing went this way,
Speaker 3: they could have won. If this one thing went that way,
Speaker 3: maybe they lose. And that's true. This game especially is
Speaker 3: literally like you can very very specifically say the rest
Speaker 3: of the game could win the exact same way. If
Speaker 3: one of these two to three plays change anyone pick one,
Speaker 3: the game is over and Kansas wins. So I am
Speaker 3: hard pressed to say that Kansas is doomed because I
Speaker 3: thought they looked and played very well, at least in
Speaker 3: comparison to who they were playing. They played Houston very well,
Speaker 3: they had some excellent performances. Yeah, you know, Zeke Mayo
Speaker 3: maybe wasn't as good as we would have liked, very
Speaker 3: low percentage on high volume. But I still like this
Speaker 3: is and in a weird way, I almost think it
Speaker 3: is encouraging I come away from this game thinking Kansas's
Speaker 3: ceiling is higher than I thought it was. And I
Speaker 3: know they beat Houston last year in Allen Field House,
Speaker 3: and last year' Kansas team wasn't very good, But nonetheless
Speaker 3: I almost am encouraged by the result. I think they
Speaker 3: played well. I think they showed which hey, everyone on Twitter,
Speaker 3: buckle up. I think they showed heart, and I think
Speaker 3: they showed grit, and I think they showed toughness, and
Speaker 3: I think they showed John.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they showed a lot of toughness.
Speaker 1: Least, okay, all right, Cam, they showed a.
Speaker 2: Lot of toughness by dropping trow.
Speaker 1: This skirt.
Speaker 2: Okay, point, yes, I think like it's in In all honesty,
Speaker 2: they they played really well for the majority of that game.
Speaker 2: They also saw that Flora Badunga has to play more
Speaker 2: minutes than kJ Adams will he I don't know much
Speaker 2: better he.
Speaker 1: Has to, and I don't know. He may score and
Speaker 1: rebound in block shots, but I don't see him diving
Speaker 1: on the floor and hustle playing it up Cam to
Speaker 1: tell what.
Speaker 2: He's also not a career thirty seven percent mid range
Speaker 2: jump shot shooter like kJ is, so he doesn't I
Speaker 2: mean you know, he doesn't have a place on the team.
Speaker 1: That was Bill's take too. Bill's take after the game
Speaker 1: was we were right there with a great team and
Speaker 1: we didn't even have a starter. Nobody, nobody, kJ would.
Speaker 2: Have helped in the last would have helped in the
Speaker 2: last couple of minutes simply.
Speaker 1: Because aj Store would have played last.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but no, like back to the question I
Speaker 2: actually think in despite me being incredibly irrational, emotional and
Speaker 2: pissed off, no, it was encouraging. They are a good team.
Speaker 2: Kansas is still going to be fine. I probably would
Speaker 2: be less upset if I hadn't put currency on this
Speaker 2: game because I had my buddies.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to talk about a freaking
Speaker 1: awful beat to have the money, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know who would.
Speaker 1: Have encouraged Cam to take such a horrible decision. Love
Speaker 1: a line, then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I take all responsibility.
Speaker 3: Real question for you here do you win bets? And
Speaker 3: not often?
Speaker 2: There's I don't alright, So my dad listens to the show.
Speaker 2: High Dad, Uh, Dad, don't worry about me. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't lose thousands of dollars on sports betting. I
Speaker 2: have bet on Iraqi League basketball before that was a
Speaker 2: low point in my life. And I also bet on
Speaker 2: like Southern today. I don't even know what their mascot is,
Speaker 2: but it's usually like one dollar wagers, maybe five for Kansas.
Speaker 2: It creeps up in exponential numbers. But no, we're fine.
Speaker 2: But yes, I was upset and threw my phone into
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 1: And the reason that you made the bet on Kansas
Speaker 1: money line whenever they did open as an underdog, and
Speaker 1: they actually closed as a one point favorite, so they
Speaker 1: didn't technically finish as a home underdog. It was closed
Speaker 1: for a while. A lot of sharp money came in late.
Speaker 1: But the reason that you make a bet isn't to
Speaker 1: win that time. It's to win over the run of
Speaker 1: of a longer period of time and.
Speaker 2: In the future on the wrong side of that well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean like, if you bet twenty bucks on Kansas as
Speaker 1: plus money at home over ten different times, they're probably
Speaker 1: winning seven or eight of them, so you'll win money.
Speaker 1: But every now and then you get a nice kick
Speaker 1: to the ass, like you did on Saturday, because that
Speaker 1: was an all timer. Okay, here's my take. That's the
Speaker 1: second most painful, maybe the most painful loss. It's one
Speaker 1: of two that Bill self has had at home, the
Speaker 1: other being the ac Law game when Tech A and
Speaker 1: M came in here in Kansas, much like this one,
Speaker 1: was in complete control for the second half, only to
Speaker 1: watch him make a three with like twenty seconds left
Speaker 1: and steal a game that Texas A and M's only
Speaker 1: lead of the entire second half was whenever he splashed
Speaker 1: in that shot to give up. I was twelve. I
Speaker 1: remember back when I was twelve, Kansas losing basketball games
Speaker 1: at home was the end of the world. Oh well,
Speaker 1: they only did it once every couple of years, and
Speaker 1: now it's apparently every few weeks.
Speaker 2: Can I just say something here? I saw a take
Speaker 2: on Twitter today that I actually kind of agree with.
Speaker 2: People are like, yeah, you know, Kansas, they used to
Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve, but the conference is different now.
Speaker 2: Houston entered the conference with an unbalanced schedule and they've
Speaker 2: won eighteen in a row.
Speaker 1: Yep, correct. It has nothing to do with balance there,
Speaker 1: They're just meeting everybody. Here's my take on Houston, and
Speaker 1: also why this game bothers Kansas fans so much. It's
Speaker 1: because suddenly, after you dated the hot girl, all those
Speaker 1: years the girl everybody wanted. Now somebody else has a
Speaker 1: romantic tail friend. Kansas has to now watch Houston, a
Speaker 1: team that embodies twenty ten Kansas. Twenty ten's Kansas to
Speaker 1: a tee. They are the team Kansas used to be.
Speaker 1: Kansas used to go on the road and they get
Speaker 1: punched early, and they fall behind, and they trail most
Speaker 1: of the game, and you think it's over, and suddenly
Speaker 1: at the most crucial moments of the game, they don't
Speaker 1: make the mistakes, they force you into one and they
Speaker 1: splash in the shot they have to have to snipe
Speaker 1: a win on your home court. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, when you look at that and you say, wow,
Speaker 1: that happened at Central Florida. Houston just did that a
Speaker 1: week ago, and now it happens at Kansas and Houston
Speaker 1: when they end up winning the league, and you can
Speaker 1: point to three or four of these coin flips that
Speaker 1: they managed to win, not super unlike the Chiefs, seemingly
Speaker 1: winning all of the coin flips, because they just execute
Speaker 1: better than everybody else. Houston with the toughness and the
Speaker 1: grit that is Kansas at its best during the streak,
Speaker 1: That's why it looks so familiar. And that's why it
Speaker 1: sucks so much for Kansas fans because that used to
Speaker 1: be the way it is. Doesn't mean Kansas still isn't
Speaker 1: really good. If you watch that game, regardless of the score,
Speaker 1: and you walked away from that thinking both those teams
Speaker 1: aren't top ten teams in the country and that outcome
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with how far both of them
Speaker 1: can go in the tournament, you'd be correct. Those two
Speaker 1: teams are great. Kansas absolutely deserved to move up in
Speaker 1: the rankings after losing that game. They are clearly one
Speaker 1: of the ten or twelve best teams in college basketball.
Speaker 1: But that's why it sucks so bad, because Houston is
Speaker 1: twenty ten's Kansas, and that is what Jayhawk fans long
Speaker 1: for this team to return to how they were. Kansas
Speaker 1: is good, but Kansas, whenever they were at their best,
Speaker 1: they beat a lot of good teams because they on
Speaker 1: every day seemingly were just a little bit better than
Speaker 1: your good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's a really a take, and that's I
Speaker 1: remember thinking that last year Houston wins all these Big
Speaker 1: twelve games. I was not sold on Houston when they
Speaker 1: joined the Big Twelve. I thought that they'd struggle to
Speaker 1: get acclimated to this, But wow, how can you not
Speaker 1: have respect for that team and their coach that does
Speaker 1: nothing but win games. How they go on the road
Speaker 1: and they take your shot and they still manage to
Speaker 1: make plays. That team turned it over five times in
Speaker 1: fifty minutes at Allen Field House. They didn't make mistakes
Speaker 1: when they had to. Zeke Mayo made three turnovers, all
Speaker 1: in the final ten minutes and a few seconds of
Speaker 1: that game. They forced Zeke Mayo into those turnovers. Zek
Speaker 1: Mayo didn't just throw the ball to Houston for the
Speaker 1: hell of it. Houston forces turnovers better than any team
Speaker 1: in the country. They did what they do best when
Speaker 1: they had to have it. That's why they win games.
Speaker 1: Just like that's why the Chiefs win all these games.
Speaker 1: They're at their best when it matters most, and they
Speaker 1: can snipe it from the last second, from the grasp
Speaker 1: of defeat, from the jaws of defeat. They snipe it
Speaker 1: at the last minute. It looks familiar. Just those guys
Speaker 1: aren't wearing crimson and blue anymore. Doesn't mean Kansas still
Speaker 1: isn't good. Doesn't mean Kansas can't get there very soon,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean, they might not get there this year, but
Speaker 1: you this Houston team is better than any Big twelve
Speaker 1: team that Kansas had to deal with in the fourteen
Speaker 1: year run of the streak. That also is the thing
Speaker 1: we can't just say Gonzaga's league is ass and that's
Speaker 1: why they win all these leagues without acknowledging that part
Speaker 1: of the reason Kansas one of those Big twelve titles
Speaker 1: is because everybody else in their league was at best
Speaker 1: good but not as good as they were. Now there's
Speaker 1: a legit elite competition year in and year out from
Speaker 1: a dominant program, and Kansas fans don't know what to
Speaker 1: do about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Agree. How much do you think of this has
Speaker 2: to do with the transfer portal and self not having
Speaker 2: guys in the program to develop long term?
Speaker 1: I don't think Landon, And you can answer if you want.
Speaker 1: I don't think very much. They played. They were right
Speaker 1: there with a top five team, and everybody's like, that's
Speaker 1: a moral victory. No, it's not. The conference races were
Speaker 1: so much more important to Kansas fans than anyone else,
Speaker 1: So that's why this one hurts so bad. It feels
Speaker 1: like you just lost the most important game you'll play
Speaker 1: all year because now your chances of winning the league
Speaker 1: are so small. But when Duke and Carolina played all
Speaker 1: those classics all those years and somebody lost in overtime,
Speaker 1: none of their fans watch that and think, well, damn,
Speaker 1: our season's over. They thought, oh, Okay, we're right there
Speaker 1: with a really good team, and if we played them
Speaker 1: again tomorrow, we'd be right there with them again. Got
Speaker 1: a good chance to win in two months. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't well. I don't think that game made should
Speaker 1: make you think Bill and the transfer portal it just
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work.
Speaker 3: I do think the general like increased parody in the
Speaker 3: sport is due to the transfer portal. And you can
Speaker 3: argue a little bit of Kansas's lack of dominance is
Speaker 3: being influenced by the transfer portal. I think there's a
Speaker 3: and lack of dominance.
Speaker 1: Just to point out lack of dominance feels so crippling
Speaker 1: for Kansas fans because we've all been spoiled so much.
Speaker 1: That lack of dominance means a four seed with a
Speaker 1: team that had a ton of injury luck, bad luck,
Speaker 1: and this year a two or a three seed at
Speaker 1: this pace, that's what struggling in the portal looks like
Speaker 1: for Kansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can make an argument for that.
Speaker 3: I don't think this game is like an indictment on
Speaker 3: on Bill's ability to recruit in the portal or Kansas
Speaker 3: is like falling.
Speaker 2: On program that I'm just I'm saying, like the so
Speaker 2: when you look at a team like Houston, they don't
Speaker 2: make a lot of mistakes, They're extremely tough. They play
Speaker 2: with a lot of heart. And I'm not saying Kansas
Speaker 2: doesn't play with a lot of heart, but the things
Speaker 2: that make Kansas so tough than twenty tens, they won
Speaker 2: all of those coin flip games, it seemed like, at home,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them on the road, and we
Speaker 2: just haven't seen that in the transfer portal era. Granted,
Speaker 2: some of the transfer portal guys haven't worked out. NI
Speaker 2: Timberlake was terrible. This team should be better on than
Speaker 2: what it has been on paper. And so I wonder
Speaker 2: how much of that actually has to do with the
Speaker 2: guys not being in the system under self for you know,
Speaker 2: three years, four years.
Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
Speaker 2: Frank Mason?
Speaker 1: The West Virginia game on the Houston game are games
Speaker 1: that they have won more years than not. That's how
Speaker 1: the street happened. If kJ Adams makes that layup and
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo or excuse me, Dwan Harris makes the free
Speaker 1: throw and Kansas is seven and one instead of five
Speaker 1: and three, which obviously strongly has an impact in the
Speaker 1: conference race. Are you sitting there feeling that much better
Speaker 1: about this team's chances of winning in March? I don't.
Speaker 1: I think that that's just mean.
Speaker 2: But they didn't make those shots.
Speaker 1: No, they did it. They haven't executed as well as
Speaker 1: we're used to. But I don't know if that's Kansas
Speaker 1: being definitively worse or if it just shows how thin
Speaker 1: the line is.
Speaker 2: And Howard, how comfortable do you feel with this team
Speaker 2: right now in a one possession game under two minutes?
Speaker 1: I know, I don't feel like they're doomed. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't feel if the block if they right,
Speaker 1: but it's like that they're Are you supposed to feel
Speaker 1: like that when they're playing a top five to seven
Speaker 1: team that's known for forcing turnover Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I thought like I just I think I think this
Speaker 1: is coming from a place where Kansas fans are so
Speaker 1: used to just simply being the best team in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve and the best team in any game that's
Speaker 1: played on their home court, and when they're not, the
Speaker 1: building is so good that it wills them to those
Speaker 1: few extra points they need that. Now that you've lost
Speaker 1: a few games that were essential coin flips in the
Speaker 1: final minute, that it feels like there must be a reason.
Speaker 1: It must be because Bill Self's transfer portal skills suck.
Speaker 1: It must because they don't care very much.
Speaker 3: It must because Dwan.
Speaker 1: Harris is soft. It can't just be sometimes you'll lose
Speaker 1: those games and there isn't a rhyme or reason other
Speaker 1: than you got out executed by the thinnest of millimeters.
Speaker 1: I mean, the transfer portals is an abstract concept. They
Speaker 1: don't suck, they're good.
Speaker 2: But what I'm getting at is since the transfer portal
Speaker 2: era started, you can are and even actually, you know
Speaker 2: what screwed even a little bit before that. The team
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen got boat raced at home by Arizona
Speaker 2: State and Remy Martin. I don't know, it just it's interesting,
Speaker 2: and part of that too, is hard to be dominant
Speaker 2: for so long in college sports. But it's just it's
Speaker 2: an interesting thing. I mean, you look at like tom
Speaker 2: Izzo Michigan State, who by the way, is really freaking good,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna make a Final four this year. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying this out loud. You guys are gonna have
Speaker 2: to deal with it. I've dealt with it, I've accepted it.
Speaker 2: I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But Michigan cearly made the tournament last year and you're
Speaker 1: you're so your sample size of this is like half
Speaker 1: a season's worth where we've noticed Kansas getting better out
Speaker 1: the course of the season, Like Kansas won a national
Speaker 1: title and was in position to be the second one
Speaker 1: seed two and three years ago, And we're using thirteen
Speaker 1: games of Michigan State beating up on Nebraska and Rutgers
Speaker 1: as evidence why tom Izzo is passing Bill self and
Speaker 1: the transfer portals like stelt skills passing Bill.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I was getting is he struggled
Speaker 2: to in the transfer portal, like with getting a struggling
Speaker 2: play for him.
Speaker 1: Is he struggling.
Speaker 3: Struggling, He's struggling, but he's let me in, sort of
Speaker 3: take let me in, sort of take uh. This I
Speaker 3: think actually ties the eighteen team the eighteen nineteen squad
Speaker 3: together with these few teams because that is slightly before
Speaker 3: the portal air, but there were actually a lot of
Speaker 3: there were a few portal guys on that team with
Speaker 3: the loss and and Charlie Moore time Charlie Moore. It
Speaker 3: these kind of things happen, and you see this. You
Speaker 3: saw this with like super freshmen heavy cal Kentucky teams,
Speaker 3: super freshmen heavy Duke k teams, and you see this
Speaker 3: on really freshman heavy teams. Iowa State teams had this.
Speaker 3: That Io State was using the portal a lot. It
Speaker 3: wasn't the portal then just transfer guys. You see this
Speaker 3: sometimes when you have just like a lot of new
Speaker 3: on a roster at the same time, and that it
Speaker 3: is sometimes these little things, these little things kind of
Speaker 3: slip through the cracks the eighteen nineteen team, and sometimes
Speaker 3: chemistry is just off a little bit and takes longer
Speaker 3: to develop. And obviously the eighteen nineteen team also had
Speaker 3: all sorts of just weirdness happened you donk Andrew the
Speaker 3: vic leaving the team. Things we documented well and happened
Speaker 3: documented well, but nonetheless still shares in common some of
Speaker 3: that that that was a team that had a lot
Speaker 3: of all over the place pieces that kind of got
Speaker 3: smashed together, and you saw a lot of that where
Speaker 3: maybe the chemistry and the roster fit and the exact
Speaker 3: player fit which just wasn't there because we talked at
Speaker 3: length about like that year, Quentin Grimes, should he play
Speaker 3: primary point? Feels like the best position for him is
Speaker 3: primary point? But Devon Dotson is really good and can
Speaker 3: only play point guard? So how does that work? And
Speaker 3: we talked about that with last year's team, and how
Speaker 3: does this roster really fit together? We talked about it
Speaker 3: with this team a lot. And so I think maybe
Speaker 3: more so than just like a Bill can't recruit in
Speaker 3: the portal era, I think, which I do think he's not.
Speaker 3: He's doing fine, he's getting good players. I think maybe
Speaker 3: more so than that is just that inherently what comes
Speaker 3: with the territory a little bit of having a lot
Speaker 3: of roster turnover and a lot of new guys that
Speaker 3: you're trying to put all on the same team and
Speaker 3: try to make work, is that sometimes chemistry and sometimes
Speaker 3: these little problems can become exercised when you are seeing
Speaker 3: guys that haven't played together for three four years at
Speaker 3: a time. I do think that is something you are seeing,
Speaker 3: not exclusively because of the portal air, but obviously it
Speaker 3: is far exercise because of it.
Speaker 1: Let's get in with some of the players here before
Speaker 1: we get too deep in this recap, Starting with the Bigs.
Speaker 1: Their best player Kansas was was Flori Badunga, who had
Speaker 1: about one hundred dunks and rude to a nineteen point
Speaker 1: seven rebound performance in thirty six minutes. Lannon gave you
Speaker 1: some fake news earlier saying that he fouled out at
Speaker 1: the end of at the beginning of our right at
Speaker 1: the end of regulation. It was right at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the second overtime, which was the end of the road.
Speaker 1: Like you was on the it was on Ryland Griffin's
Speaker 1: missed free throw at the start of the second overtime,
Speaker 1: and it was one of those moments where you realized, Okay,
Speaker 1: you had already blown two golden chances. How many more
Speaker 1: are you going to get? And then your best player
Speaker 1: fouls out. That was really the moment when the riding
Speaker 1: was on the wall. His battery mate, Hunter Dickinson was
Speaker 1: really good in regulation. He finished with seventeen and then
Speaker 1: eight and forty five minutes, but he was held scoreless
Speaker 1: and both overtime and Jawan Roberts got a lot of
Speaker 1: hook shots over and exhausted Dickinson in the extra periods.
Speaker 1: Fans were once again going after Dickinson for being soft
Speaker 1: in his defense. Was a liability down the stretch. But
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of minutes to ask a
Speaker 1: guy who's that big, that's not used to playing that
Speaker 1: much by and I mean, ultimately, the bigs were good
Speaker 1: enough to win them this game together. They were thirteen
Speaker 1: for twenty one from the floor. They combined for thirty
Speaker 1: six points and what fifteen rebounds? They were plenty good enough.
Speaker 1: Kansas won on the glass. Ultimately, whenever you start adding
Speaker 1: extra overtime, it's not gonna be kind of your bigs.
Speaker 1: I thought both of them played fine. And yes, Bill
Speaker 1: self needs his head examined if he puts Flory on
Speaker 1: the bench for kJ.
Speaker 3: Adams completely agree. Flory was sensational. Have fun on the
Speaker 3: New Orleans Pelicans next to your buddy, You're going to
Speaker 3: a rock in the NBA. Dickinson was Hunter Dickinson. I
Speaker 3: think his defense was what it is. It's not great
Speaker 3: at times. I do think it's actually, I think he
Speaker 3: plays very well on defense with Flory Bedounga a lot
Speaker 3: of the time he degree. Now that's flipped because Flory.
Speaker 3: Not only has Flory developed on the offensive end, he's
Speaker 3: developed on defensi end. Because also he was completely clueless
Speaker 3: at times early in the season on anything that wasn't
Speaker 3: just straight man a man defense, and he has been
Speaker 3: super good for the most part on defense as well
Speaker 3: as the season's gone. They're really good together. Yeah, one
Speaker 3: floor fouled out that that was kind of the moment like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, this might might indeed be an l they're
Speaker 3: great together, and that I agree has to be the
Speaker 3: rotation together. Flory should start and Hunter and Flory should
Speaker 3: play a lot together.
Speaker 1: The miss free throws ruined an otherwise brilliant night by
Speaker 1: de One Harris, At least in my opinion, I thought
Speaker 1: Harris was the best player in the game other than
Speaker 1: Flory until Kansas lost. He finished with eight points, three
Speaker 1: of seven from the floor. He was an excellent floor
Speaker 1: general in this game. Against the defense that forces a
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers, he puts up twelve assists to one
Speaker 1: turnover in his forty six minutes. Once again, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of minutes, they ran out of steam. The miss
Speaker 1: free throws were colossal. He's now just three for twelve
Speaker 1: shooting free throws in the last five games. He's really
Speaker 1: hurt Kansas at the line on their last two Titanic
Speaker 1: showdowns with top ten teams. Cam. I know that people
Speaker 1: are critical of Harris. They say he's not a big
Speaker 1: game point guard. The free throws were huge, But I
Speaker 1: thought he was really good. You don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with me if you want to offer some criticism, but
Speaker 1: I thought that I thought it was unfair for people
Speaker 1: to blame him for the I mean, technically, you could
Speaker 1: blame him for the loss, because if he makes one
Speaker 1: of the two free throws, I think they win. They
Speaker 1: certainly win. But I thought he was really good other
Speaker 1: than that one play.
Speaker 2: No, he was. He was awesome. I mean you can't really,
Speaker 2: you can't really boil it down to miss free throw.
Speaker 2: I mean it's not he's in a tough spot at
Speaker 2: the line with the game on the line. Yeah, it'd
Speaker 2: be nice to make him, but no, he played great.
Speaker 2: He is the least of their problems.
Speaker 1: Well, something that appears to be quite a big problem
Speaker 1: for Bill self is this next paragraph that you wrote, Cam,
Speaker 1: I'll let you have the floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill self took for fun. Fact, guys at the
Speaker 2: Auburn game the other night when they played Tennessee and
Speaker 2: Rick Barnes, they were offering fans free prostate exams, which
Speaker 2: is exactly what Bill self got from Houston in the
Speaker 2: last twenty seconds of overtime and regulation. Well done, Bill,
Speaker 2: I hope it was fun. By the way, it was
Speaker 2: a blood test, not an actual prostate exam. Ass ass
Speaker 2: at Auburn's SEC it just means more ass.
Speaker 1: Land. And you want to tell me about these stats.
Speaker 1: How about this fun stat that we cooked up in
Speaker 1: the lab. And that's not a prostate exam joke, it's
Speaker 1: just a basketball stat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what we got here. Houston had a
Speaker 3: point four percent chance to win the game just prior
Speaker 3: to Wan Harris's first three throw tempant overtime per Ken Pom.
Speaker 3: And when I was perusing this, I thought you were
Speaker 3: saying fourteen eighty seven, and I was like, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure basketball wasn't invented in fourteen eighty seven. In one
Speaker 3: four hundred, one, four hundred and eighty seven games between
Speaker 3: ranked teams spanning the last fifteen seasons. That is the
Speaker 3: lowest win probability that any team ever had in a
Speaker 3: game they went on to win. Also, the first time
Speaker 3: Kansas has lost multiple home games in a in the
Speaker 3: same season since twenty eighteen. Yeah. Great, that's actually quite terrible.
Speaker 1: So one more time on that stat just because it
Speaker 1: was a lot of words and I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: word at the best, that's the lowest win probability that
Speaker 1: any team playing against the top twenty five team has
Speaker 1: ever overcome to win in any game in the last
Speaker 1: fifteen years. So, in other words, those fans that were
Speaker 1: doing the rock Chuck chant, they history was on their
Speaker 1: side until it wasn't. They should A big part of
Speaker 1: the reason that they were almost right was Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 1: The light came on for him as he went New
Speaker 1: Year with five threes, and not only did he make
Speaker 1: five threes, but each one seems came at an even
Speaker 1: bigger moment than the last. I think four of them
Speaker 1: came in the final two minutes of regulation. Through the overtimes,
Speaker 1: he went for seventeen points and seven rebounds in a
Speaker 1: terrific game, playing thirty one minutes, going five for six
Speaker 1: from three. I will take this loss and another two.
Speaker 1: You can have two more losses if I can exchange
Speaker 1: those three losses for this Ryland Griffin being here to
Speaker 1: stay the rest of the year. This is the piece
Speaker 1: they need. Forty percent on the season shooting threes. Please
Speaker 1: continue to fire the rock.
Speaker 2: Zeke Mayo. He had sixteen points. He led the team
Speaker 2: with nine rebounds. He was five for nine shooting twos,
Speaker 2: but he was also just one for eight shooting threes.
Speaker 2: He missed his last six, and then he had two
Speaker 2: soul crushing DraftKings, account killing turnovers and in bounds passes
Speaker 2: as my favorite team, Kansas was trying to close the
Speaker 2: game out, in which I might have launched my phone
Speaker 2: into the streets of Chicago. His other turnover came a
Speaker 2: double overtime when he just got picked. Other than question
Speaker 2: why he's throwing the ball in bounds, do we have
Speaker 2: much to debate here?
Speaker 1: No, but that's a fair question. What would Bill self say,
Speaker 1: Let's keep doing that? I okay, here's the thing I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I I played basketball less than both of
Speaker 1: you guys. That's what Yes, that's exactly what I'm asked.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't the tallest person on the floor, throw the
Speaker 1: ball in bounce.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's a good pass the.
Speaker 2: Best passer too, yes, me.
Speaker 1: Cross court vision and seriously, if I have I know
Speaker 1: this is kind of a hard play to drew up.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind they called the time out before
Speaker 1: the second one. The first one was a little bit
Speaker 1: of bad luck because Zeke Mail was calling a time
Speaker 1: out right around the time they whistled him for five seconds.
Speaker 1: That was a little bit less out of your control.
Speaker 1: The second one, he just freaking threw it to nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Dickinson at center court and as Cam said, oh,
Speaker 1: you got like six seconds left in the clock, throw
Speaker 1: it to the hunter and just have him shoot the
Speaker 1: thing as high as he can into the heavens. Just
Speaker 1: throw it straight up in the air. But like like
Speaker 1: it's like in the NFL when you see like the
Speaker 1: last play the game, the quarterback just drops back and
Speaker 1: floats it as hees he canty. Why not instead they
Speaker 1: try to do all this fancy stuff and man, yeah,
Speaker 1: it can't be your get the ball and bounce guy.
Speaker 1: That was bad.
Speaker 3: Well why do they try to run the Christian lightner
Speaker 3: play in clutch situations? They should have ran it here,
Speaker 3: just throw the ball.
Speaker 2: That's because kJ Adams wasn't playing. Remember, he's the only
Speaker 2: one that can catch that pass and shoot a mid
Speaker 2: range turnaround drump shot when the game's on the line,
Speaker 2: despite undersized.
Speaker 1: And window Kevin Durant. According to Bill self.
Speaker 2: It seems for Kream, Elijahwan and Bill.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about duel Jabbar team whatever it is, who
Speaker 5: is still thirty times better than AJ Store, who is
Speaker 5: as Cam has posted a very good meme that I
Speaker 5: cannot read because red well, AJ Store spelled from the floor,
Speaker 5: which was every bit as big and fat as it
Speaker 5: looks in a box score zero points in.
Speaker 1: Eighteen minutes, which is my line, but eighteen more minutes.
Speaker 1: A few fans want to know if they would have
Speaker 1: won the game with kJ Adams. The answer is probably
Speaker 1: because that would have meant less AJ Store, which would
Speaker 1: have been a big plus for Kansas. Like, yikes, that
Speaker 1: was AJ Store gets the big opponent. Not good in fact,
Speaker 1: not thought, they're not even anything close to good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is what I was unfortunately envisioning
Speaker 3: when I was like on the last show, when I
Speaker 3: when I was saying, yeah, this was a good performance,
Speaker 3: but maybe we should uh we gotta wait, We gotta wait.
Speaker 3: And see I was waiting you were out. I didn't
Speaker 3: see this.
Speaker 2: You were out of the store camp early. And I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that that stock is re regaining value.
Speaker 3: No, I sold all of it, all of it along.
Speaker 2: Good the Nancy Posy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of ass or as well, that also works. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The refs, Oh my goodness, the refs. Look, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and dedicate several minutes when we already
Speaker 1: give you ninety minutes of talk to these stupid ass refs.
Speaker 1: But Doug Sermons any, the same guy who called the
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo over and back. The two calls that I
Speaker 1: thought were the worst two in the game was the
Speaker 1: play that made Calvin Sampson irate. When everybody knows Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson fouled Juan Roberts on that little hook shot that
Speaker 1: wasn't called, and then the Floria Badunga's fifth foul fighting
Speaker 1: for the loose rebound on the on the on the
Speaker 1: free throw like boy man, and also Zeke Mao didn't
Speaker 1: get the call when a shot of three uh and
Speaker 1: and he shouldn't have gotten that call. But like that's
Speaker 1: the call that Doug Sermons himself gave Javon Small at
Speaker 1: allen Field House like, okay, can we at least be consistent?
Speaker 1: They were awful, They were variable, per the usual.
Speaker 2: I hope your offspring is a place kicking ref.
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't get.
Speaker 3: The giant kickers, if they come up with the kicker
Speaker 3: the referee kicker Olympics and Diamond the Landrath to have
Speaker 3: a deep cut it TP reference. How about Diamond Landreth
Speaker 3: is like daddy, I want to wear the stripes and
Speaker 3: and kick field goals.
Speaker 1: Are you kick her instead?
Speaker 3: Your kid out the window? Or are you going to
Speaker 3: do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'll kick her instead, because we all know that
Speaker 1: if any kid of mine becomes a place kicking ref,
Speaker 1: they'll suck at everything they do. And they already don't
Speaker 1: have the genetic lottery on their side, So the last
Speaker 1: thing I'll encourage them to do is make it worse
Speaker 1: with their career choice. I hate refs. I also hate kickers.
Speaker 1: I hate I don't know which one I hate more.
Speaker 1: Goes back and forth and depends on the universe. You man,
Speaker 1: that's oh man? Do I have karma coming my way here?
Speaker 1: I will quickly finish these notes and then we can
Speaker 1: actually give a little bit more analysis about the game.
Speaker 1: Shackmore only played nineteen minutes and for some reason scored
Speaker 1: all right. For some reason, didn't play very much. Self
Speaker 1: is always like I really need to play him more
Speaker 1: at Harris less and then he never does. Shack scored
Speaker 1: seven points three to seven from the floor, David quite
Speaker 1: an uninteresting line of just two free throws in eleven
Speaker 1: unspectacular but fine minutes. The final numbers in this game
Speaker 1: are forty six percent from the floor, thirty six percent
Speaker 1: from three, and fifty seven percent of the line. They
Speaker 1: were seventeen for thirty at the stripe and a game
Speaker 1: they lost in two overtimes. You may want to point
Speaker 1: out how badly that hurt them, but Houston also started
Speaker 1: the second half over eight shooting free throws, so they're
Speaker 1: also usually very good from the line, so that kind
Speaker 1: of washed out. They both shot fifty seven percent from
Speaker 1: the floor. Kay was plus two on the glass and
Speaker 1: they were minus seven and turnovers only forcing five, which
Speaker 1: is terrible. As the Iowa State Arizona situation that that
Speaker 1: that game that I am watching here taman LIPSI just
Speaker 1: got the Zeke Mayo. I flopped, But I think I
Speaker 1: got bumped into by a guy and you didn't call
Speaker 1: it when I was shooting a three file. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: what that is and what it isn't because they call
Speaker 1: it half the time and half the time they don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: So not to necessarily be like closing thoughts, because you
Speaker 1: just kind of steamrolled through a very noteworthy performance. My
Speaker 1: closing thoughts on this game are, it was a frustrating
Speaker 1: heartbreaker to watch. That was a soul crushing loss as
Speaker 1: a fan. And I'm sure the players who, by the way,
Speaker 1: the ones that you're saying don't care in all that
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson set up the game. We feel terrible. The
Speaker 1: locker room is quiet. We're crushed after that loss, and
Speaker 1: we got to respond. That's because they do care. I
Speaker 1: know that sometimes when the other team puts the ball
Speaker 1: in the basket more than the team you root for,
Speaker 1: the natural instinct is to grab your phones and tweet
Speaker 1: at Rock Chalk Blog about how the heart and the
Speaker 1: hustle sucks. But they are trying. I assure you, they
Speaker 1: are trying. Their best was just not as good as
Speaker 1: the other team's best by the thinnest of margins. And
Speaker 1: that game should actually leave you feeling more encouraged than
Speaker 1: discourage about what this team could be in a couple months,
Speaker 1: because they went toe to toe with one of the
Speaker 1: five best teams in college basketball and absolutely should have
Speaker 1: beaten them. The execution stuff can be fixed. But this
Speaker 1: last year we were starting to have a lot more
Speaker 1: questions about this team. This year, we're starting to have
Speaker 1: a lot more optimism that this team could be different.
Speaker 1: Tipping your cap sucks. Tipping your cap sucks after you lose,
Speaker 1: And I understand when you're Kansas and you're not used
Speaker 1: to having to do that, it feels especially weird, But
Speaker 1: sometimes that's the best you can do. You both played well.
Speaker 1: They made one more play than you. They gotcha. You
Speaker 1: can say you choked all you want, but you choked
Speaker 1: doing something that they do better than any team in
Speaker 1: college basketball, which is forcing opponents into mistakes. You gotta
Speaker 1: take the l sometimes and get on with the next one.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that your team sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is very very much the tone of
Speaker 3: my thoughts as well. I think, like I said up top,
Speaker 3: I think Kansas played. I mean, wasn't a beautiful basketball game?
Speaker 3: Was sixty six to sixty six going in overtime. But
Speaker 3: I think Kansas played well. They played a very good team,
Speaker 3: and they should have beat them. And I know that
Speaker 3: like that does hurt. Should have beat them is a
Speaker 3: sentence that hurts to say, because that means that they
Speaker 3: didn't win. Uh. Nonetheless, though, like I think that you
Speaker 3: should have watched this game, and I think you should
Speaker 3: feel encouraged today, Like I think you should feel like
Speaker 3: Kansas can beat most teams on on any floor. And
Speaker 3: I know this is Allen Field House, and Kansas usually
Speaker 3: doesn't lose games like this in Allen Field House.
Speaker 1: And so that remember all those years that fans were like,
Speaker 1: I wish we'd take a couple more regular season losses
Speaker 1: so that freshmen could play through their mistakes and me, me, me,
Speaker 1: and me meh okay, that's kind of what you did here.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happened here. For being honest, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I forgot.
Speaker 2: That wasn't debate three veterans, Yep.
Speaker 3: That was a whole narrative for the entire streak was
Speaker 3: would it be better if Kansas lost a couple more
Speaker 3: games and wasn't in Uh, they didn't win the Big
Speaker 3: twelve regular season and they could rest quote unquote a
Speaker 3: little bit more and not have to put all their
Speaker 3: effort into that, so they could put their effort into March.
Speaker 3: I totally forgot about that until right now. Thank you, Ryan,
Speaker 3: Thank you for showing me the hypocrisy of some people.
Speaker 1: It was dumb then and it's dumb now, Like you
Speaker 1: can do both. The conference race isn't super important, but
Speaker 1: regardless of wins and losses, which sounds stupid to say,
Speaker 1: but even though those team's lost two home games in
Speaker 1: the last month, they are definitively better than they were
Speaker 1: a month ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that then heed sucked. The ending sucked.
Speaker 1: They played despite my ramblings of incoherent in this, they
Speaker 1: played well.
Speaker 2: The ending just sucked. I mean, you played well for
Speaker 2: ninety nine point six percent of the game, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: They'll be fine and again regular season Big twelve. Now
Speaker 2: it really doesn't mean that much, but it does suck.
Speaker 2: That being said, I think they'll be fine. That's my take.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that started with a bang and ended
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a whimper as far as
Speaker 1: the fire, but I'm sure talking about these super fun
Speaker 1: Big twelve games at ten thirty on a Monday night.
Speaker 1: We'll bring that intensity right back to us. Let's get
Speaker 1: to work if the soundboard works. Big twelve games and
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna stun you guys, but they
Speaker 1: weren't all as interesting as the one we just talked about.
Speaker 3: Are you I'm tested to read a scores? Are you
Speaker 3: gonna see?
Speaker 2: Normally?
Speaker 3: You used to scream me off off my spa of
Speaker 3: reading the thing. So I was waiting for you. I
Speaker 3: cleared out.
Speaker 1: You know all right, you want me to, I can
Speaker 1: get louder for you, Land and if you want me
Speaker 1: to you ce F eighty five, TCU fifty eight. Now,
Speaker 1: aren't you glad we did that?
Speaker 3: I'm very glad, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: I know now.
Speaker 3: The nights they're now four and four in a league.
Speaker 3: Play really bounced back well from the Kansas loss, and
Speaker 3: after beating TCU by a lot, the point differential is
Speaker 3: actually getting closer to positive.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Think of that game. They got twenty six points from
Speaker 3: Keishawn Hall, TCU shooting threes one for twenty. For those
Speaker 3: that struggle at math, that's really themself, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: And then they'd have to make their next one just
Speaker 1: to be elite eight, bel self, Arizona seventy eight, Colorado
Speaker 1: sixty three. Cam, tell me about this PAC twelve battle.
Speaker 2: Yeah. PAC twelve just means more. Oh wait, that's sec.
Speaker 2: Wildcats are now seven to one. They have a chance
Speaker 2: to move past Iowa State and they're currently playing in
Speaker 2: Tucson right now on Monday night as we speak, and
Speaker 2: they're currently pouring it on Iowa State. They got twenty
Speaker 2: points from Anthony Dela Rosso or So what a name
Speaker 2: Colorado is? Ozho to eight? That's just not good. That's
Speaker 2: my d death analysis.
Speaker 1: I should just have spelled out Colorado but made it
Speaker 1: eight l So it's col La or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But I e else for how many toes a head
Speaker 2: football coach.
Speaker 1: Has I was hoping they'd get to eight so we
Speaker 1: could make that joke. Let's see what Colorado's next few
Speaker 1: games are, to see when they're gonna get one here
Speaker 1: at this point, Colorado next plays Arizona State at home.
Speaker 1: That feels possible, right like maybe?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, man, they suck. Also, if
Speaker 2: you look really really bad, so do you.
Speaker 1: Guys remember a few years ago when every team had
Speaker 1: to play like two ESPN plus games. If you look
Speaker 1: at Colorado's ESPN schedule, it is nothing but ESPN plusses.
Speaker 1: And then there's one game against Kansas. Dude who then
Speaker 1: they get on TV for.
Speaker 2: Who do you think commentates those games? Like how bad
Speaker 2: you have to be announcing and commentating that. They're like, dude,
Speaker 2: we're shipping you on to Boulder and you're gonna go
Speaker 2: commentate Colorado against TCU on Tuesday night?
Speaker 3: Like how fun in Salt Lake for Colorado at Utah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's brutal. Well, if Colorado doesn't get Arizona
Speaker 1: State at home, then they have two road games at
Speaker 1: TCU and Utah, which neither of those teams are Juggernauts,
Speaker 1: but they're still road games, and then they get Houston
Speaker 1: and Kansas after that. So if they don't get Arizona State,
Speaker 1: there is a very real chance Colorado is. If they
Speaker 1: don't get Arizona State, there's a very real chance Colorado
Speaker 1: is oh to thirteen after Valentine's Day, which is that's
Speaker 1: just sad, And then they have a game. Then they
Speaker 1: have a game against a certain team that's pretty close
Speaker 1: to where we live on a Monday night in Boulder, surely,
Speaker 1: and that game won't go poorly for a team that
Speaker 1: that is just so good on the road always and
Speaker 1: their coach never.
Speaker 2: Has there as his head up his asked so much.
Speaker 1: If Kansas loses to Colorado, I feel like we'll get
Speaker 1: unhinged Cam like point zero.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get Nolan. If Kansas loses to oh and.
Speaker 2: Fifteen, I feel like unhinged Landing just like unbuttons the
Speaker 2: top button of his collar shirt and then just says, frick, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, like I was about to say,
Speaker 1: and says fiddle sticks. So you were right there with me.
Speaker 3: Him, Yeah, that did happen on the last show. My
Speaker 3: apologies for my absolutely obscene tongue.
Speaker 1: It's it's okay. Landon has been fined. It's been it's
Speaker 1: been handled behind the scenes. Yeah. Well, we talked about
Speaker 1: Arizona State. They'll probably need to play better if they
Speaker 1: want to beat Colorado. Then they played in this game
Speaker 1: number three Iowa State seventy six, Arizona State sixty one.
Speaker 1: Though it does say that that's a fifteen point final,
Speaker 1: the final score doesn't show how neck and neck this
Speaker 1: game was for most of the night. The sun Devils
Speaker 1: led fifty six to fifty five, with six minutes left,
Speaker 1: only to watch the much better Cyclones in the night
Speaker 1: on a twenty one to five run. Good road wind
Speaker 1: for the Cyclone, thirty three points for Big twelve Player
Speaker 1: of the Year front runner Curtis Jones. I mean what
Speaker 1: at this point, who are the front runners for that award?
Speaker 1: It's Jones, It's somebody from Houston, right, They probably Manual
Speaker 1: Sharp and.
Speaker 3: Probably and.
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson's around, but well, yeah, that's how it works.
Speaker 1: It won't be anyone from this team, even though they won,
Speaker 1: because we get a sandstorm, just their second of the year.
Speaker 1: Kansas State seventy three, number twenty three, West Virginia sixty three.
Speaker 1: Good job, imas you finally got one. If I can
Speaker 1: ever find the drop.
Speaker 3: While landon Reids, Cam used the video of Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: running out with the flag for his first Monday Night
Speaker 3: for the game with the Jets to showcase West Virginia's
Speaker 3: time spent in the top twenty five, which is pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: Very funny, I assume, Cam said. Doug McDaniel is illiterate.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's probably true.
Speaker 2: I didn't write that. Actually, really it's not.
Speaker 3: A Ryan Okay, fair enough?
Speaker 1: Do you not remember why that joke is there, sir.
Speaker 3: I do, I do remember, but I did not deem
Speaker 3: it necessary to go down that rabbit hole. Well, that
Speaker 3: Dougie mcbucket scored fifteen the lead of the Wildcats, who
Speaker 3: led forty two to sixteen. I think that was the
Speaker 3: halftime score is something very similar to that. They lived
Speaker 3: by a lot. They coasted from there, and yeah, they
Speaker 3: get away easy.
Speaker 1: The Wichita Twin Peaks was popping because kuk State and
Speaker 1: Missouri were all playing at once and I got to
Speaker 1: watch k State Missouri win and I was like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: and the team that I root for is up by
Speaker 1: six and there are only eighteen seconds left.
Speaker 3: Is that where we should do our first ever live
Speaker 3: itp from the Wichita Twin Peaks? Would they have us back?
Speaker 2: I'm actually all four this idea.
Speaker 1: Hey, I know where it is, So if you guys
Speaker 1: want to meet me in Widgetar, you can follow me
Speaker 1: there and we'll watch losing two overtimes to a team
Speaker 1: that they absolutely should have been.
Speaker 3: Well, let's not tell them, Baylors. Let's just pull up
Speaker 3: to a table with Mike's and computers and just start
Speaker 3: recording and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's how you get put on a list.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have cared. Yeah, they wouldn't have cared as
Speaker 1: long as we kept ordering, which we kind of said.
Speaker 1: I eat about three hundred calories a week, so it
Speaker 1: was on the rest of my party to keep the table,
Speaker 1: keep the table service going. Baylor seventy six, Utah sixty one.
Speaker 1: What a boring Big twelve game? This was, Cam. I
Speaker 1: don't even feel like shoveling this one too, because you're
Speaker 1: better than this game has to off or I'll let
Speaker 1: you do the more.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that one.
Speaker 1: Nord Chad Omier had twenty two and twelve, and then
Speaker 1: another twenty one were added by VJ. Edgecomb. I feel
Speaker 1: like Baylor has played nothing but boring games. Jayhawks go
Speaker 1: to Waco on Saturday against an unranked Baylor team. How
Speaker 1: we feeling about their chances in that one?
Speaker 3: Nothing bad has ever happened in Waco to Kansas, wait,
Speaker 3: fair enough.
Speaker 1: Has ever happened in Waco? Period?
Speaker 2: Well, the last game of the uh Devon Dotson team
Speaker 2: with Udoka before COVID shutdown in the world was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That was the last time they won there? Guy, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was Donald Trump's last Kansas Baylor game
Speaker 1: that he was president for, and guess who's president again.
Speaker 1: So I think that means that Kansas is gonna go
Speaker 1: down to Baylor and have a guy dunk all day
Speaker 1: and route to a win and a national title run
Speaker 1: in that year's tournament. Right, That's absolutely what happened, right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, can we haven't talked to you about this
Speaker 1: very take on the show yet, but are you in
Speaker 1: agreement that the twenty twenty team absolutely loses to Wisconsin
Speaker 1: fifty seven to fifty four team if they played the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty tournament.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think they do. I I strongly believe, and
Speaker 2: I think part of this is the fact that I
Speaker 2: Kansas was such a hot streak at that time that
Speaker 2: fans forget that they had some issues offensively on that team.
Speaker 2: But I still think they made a Final four that year.
Speaker 2: I think that was gonna be the minimum for that team.
Speaker 1: Well, Cam, you can tell the story of Kansas actually
Speaker 1: was set to enter the postseason with a seventeen game
Speaker 1: winning streak, which was the most that they had had
Speaker 1: since the twenty sixteen team rolled into the arena against
Speaker 1: Villanova with a seventeen game winning streak, and because with
Speaker 1: you and attendance inside the paint told you that matchup
Speaker 1: was great. You know how good that night went for
Speaker 1: the Jayhawks.
Speaker 2: One of the funniest things I've ever seen at a
Speaker 2: sporting event. There was a dude sitting next to me
Speaker 2: who he just started liking Kansas during the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 2: and he experienced the full Kansas experience in the NCAA
Speaker 2: tournament that day, and he started to fight with two
Speaker 2: Villanova fans next to him. It was awesome, and he
Speaker 2: was much bigger than the two Villanova fans.
Speaker 1: And but he left less happy than the Villanova fans. No,
Speaker 1: I said this, Well, the drop doesn't want to load.
Speaker 1: It's it's oh thanks, I was like the computer. The
Speaker 1: commuter gave me a bone, yeah, and it didn't work.
Speaker 1: Never getting a bone, well, yeah, something had to after that.
Speaker 1: Kansas game is certainly different. Didn't b YU eighties speak
Speaker 1: speaking of places that never get bones? B YU eighty
Speaker 1: Cincinnati fifty two. Okay, Cam tell me about the fighting Mormons.
Speaker 1: They may not get bones, but they do get dubs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the game that made half of Cincinnati can
Speaker 2: convert to Mormonism. Cincinnati kind of sucks. Their offense is terrible.
Speaker 2: They can't make threes. All of Cincinnati women are threes.
Speaker 2: By the way, I spent a weekend, e Yu got
Speaker 2: e Yu got five threes from Richie Saunders. Provo is
Speaker 2: coming for the Jayhawks, and Bill self will be carrying
Speaker 2: a cross into Provo with a sho a sword and
Speaker 2: a shield and a badge saying that kJ Adams is
Speaker 2: playing thirty eight minutes.
Speaker 1: There's so much there I want to touch on. The
Speaker 1: people of Cincinnati don't care that their basketball team sucks
Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow beat the Chiefs in the playoffs that
Speaker 1: one time, and therefore that's that's all they talk about.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: He's he's in it. It's the playoffs, Cam, He's always
Speaker 1: in can kun. That would be anybody associated with the
Speaker 1: with the Texas Tech sixty four Oklahoma State fifty four
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State aka the Bengals of the Big Twelve. The
Speaker 1: Red Raiders are six and two in Big Twelve play.
Speaker 1: They are good for fourth place. They were in control
Speaker 1: most of the night. Did you guys know Bryce Thompson
Speaker 1: is still playing for Olhama. I did not know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I looked at the box score this game saw
Speaker 3: b Thompson. I was like, oh, who's that He led
Speaker 3: them in scoring, and it's Bryce Thompson. I was like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's great.
Speaker 1: In his fifth season, he's absolutely making a bunch of baskets.
Speaker 1: Whin he comes back to Allen Field House for the
Speaker 1: thirtieth year in a row here in just a few weeks.
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Like he's been in college as long as
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson, no joke.
Speaker 3: And according to his dad, he's a great three point shooter.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, that happened. Bryce Thompson's dad Cam. If
Speaker 1: you don't get that reference.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Yes, actually so, Bryce Thompson made seven threes at Allen
Speaker 1: Field House once as a cowboy whenever he never shoots
Speaker 1: that well. And I posted on Twitter that Bryce Thompson
Speaker 1: is normally not good and he was that day, and
Speaker 1: Bryce Thompson's dad tweeted at Rockstock Buy and is like,
Speaker 1: no show, so little you know, Bryce is a great
Speaker 1: three point shooter. And then he went like one for
Speaker 1: eighteen the next seven games. And I kept tweeting at
Speaker 1: Brice dad because I am mature and sophisticated, or was
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 2: Ryan wonders why he has to go on like apology
Speaker 2: arcs on Twitter when people cross him, but then he
Speaker 2: has to go he be like, you know, I'm actually
Speaker 2: com full circle on this guy. He's a great human,
Speaker 2: just an ambassador for the for the sport.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a deep drive in the in the
Speaker 1: left field by Casios and uh a second house cam
Speaker 1: does this one show where he just makes everything blow
Speaker 1: up and it's in a good way. Though, Well that's
Speaker 1: that's a bad choice of words after that sentence. Oh well, hey,
Speaker 1: it all happens. It happens for a reason. I guess
Speaker 1: Big twelve standings not hitting anything. But yeah no, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll lay on that joke, much like the
Speaker 1: nope number one here still undefeated.
Speaker 3: Uh in second place, Well one of them will truly
Speaker 3: be in second place and the other will be in
Speaker 3: in third shortly. But Iowa State in Arizona seven to one.
Speaker 1: In number four, Texas Tech six and two number five
Speaker 1: are two teams. One of them hasn't beaten the other
Speaker 1: in Waco since Trump was the president. And that's Kansas
Speaker 1: and Baylor. They're five and three mm.
Speaker 3: That Kansas team that was the best Kansas team that
Speaker 3: won in Waco doesn't never been a better Kansas team
Speaker 3: that's the best run.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that, Oh.
Speaker 3: It's my turn seven West Virginia U c F by U.
Speaker 3: They're five hundred four and.
Speaker 2: Four number ten in a battle of Christian theology. Utah
Speaker 2: and TCU at three five.
Speaker 1: And number twelve is just kind of everybody in this
Speaker 1: conference that's not coached by Dion Sanders, Arizona State, Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: Kansas State, and Cincinnati, all the states except for Iowa's
Speaker 1: because theirs as good. They're all two and six.
Speaker 3: And bringing up the rear sixteenth. They might not move
Speaker 3: off of sixteenth. Folks is Colorado, they are ohn eight,
Speaker 3: big horrible other games.
Speaker 1: A team that used to be in the bottom of
Speaker 1: this conference that's now in the bottom of a different conference.
Speaker 1: Rodney Terry's Texas Longhorns, who landon you asked earlier, does
Speaker 1: Cam ever win a bet? I don't think this technically
Speaker 1: counts because it was parlayed with other losing bets, But
Speaker 1: I laughed at Cam hard for betting against Texas A
Speaker 1: and M and betting on Rodney Terry, and it looked
Speaker 1: like I was going to be right when the Aggies
Speaker 1: built an eighteen point halftime lead, only to wind up
Speaker 1: blowing it and losing in Austin. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the final score was, I know it was by one point.
Speaker 3: On a last second.
Speaker 2: Sixty nine.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as all the good games are. Traymon Mark made
Speaker 1: the game winner, but freshman Trey Johnson was the star,
Speaker 1: as he became the first Longhorn freshman to score thirty
Speaker 1: in a game for Texas since a Giant Cupcake slash
Speaker 1: Serpent did it in two thousand seven.
Speaker 3: Otherwise than as one of the greatest scores in the
Speaker 3: history of the modern NBA, Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: And a front momber.
Speaker 2: And an MVP.
Speaker 3: Allegedly two time finals MVP m Joseph Biden is happy.
Speaker 3: He might not know that his brain might be sending
Speaker 3: him information that he's not receiving. But Minnesota Minnesota upset
Speaker 3: number fifteen Oregon seventy seven to sixty nine. He does
Speaker 3: the matters though, because Tom is those number eight. Michigan
Speaker 3: State refuses to lose Big ten games because they want
Speaker 3: at Rutgers to stay in first place. It appears to
Speaker 3: be them at number eleven produced race which perdue. Guys,
Speaker 3: they've never choked in their entire life. This is gonna
Speaker 3: be a heckic thing. No, never ever, the Boilermakers smash
Speaker 3: number twenty one Michigan by twenty seven on Friday Night.
Speaker 2: I took Michigan. There're not gonna lie. A Big ten
Speaker 2: team that completely hit the fan is nebraskaball the mayor
Speaker 2: of Iowa at one point. Fred Hoiberg kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: They've lost five in a row. Africa smashed by twenty
Speaker 2: eight at number eighteen Wisconsin. Remember when we all thought
Speaker 2: Fred Hoiberg was going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 2: Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought that. Whenever he went to the Bulls,
Speaker 1: it was the equivalent of like Sean McVay going to
Speaker 1: the Rams, like this is the young abs. B's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna take over everything and they're never gonna look back.
Speaker 1: And then especially when he went to Nebraska, we were like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is the best higher any decent
Speaker 1: power five school without a lot of success, has ever made.
Speaker 1: And he hasn't won a tournament game.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: No one ever has. They've never won a tournament game ever.
Speaker 2: So crazy. I was born in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Were you really born in Nebraska.
Speaker 2: I was born in the birthplace of kool Aid, Hastings, Nebraska.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing interesting about Hastings, Nebraska, you know.
Speaker 1: Nebraska jokes city. I thought it was just Omaha. I
Speaker 1: thought that was the only city in the state.
Speaker 3: Lincoln.
Speaker 2: Apparently Lincoln is huge.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it's is it? Though? If it disappeared what
Speaker 1: we noticed Nebraska. If Lincoln, Nebraska just went into a
Speaker 1: sinkhole tomorrow and you didn't look at Twitter, would you
Speaker 1: know that? Well?
Speaker 2: I mean no, but like I'm sure someone would text
Speaker 2: me like, hey, dude, a sinkle opened up and one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand overweight Nebraskas fell into the center.
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand Lincoln, Nebraska population of twenty twenty two hundred
Speaker 3: ninety four thousand, three fold.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't all of these, all of those but
Speaker 1: seven were freaking rabbits. Two hundreds not living Lincoln.
Speaker 3: They they meet there. Let's see some relevant people also
Speaker 3: ask what is the racial makeup of Lincoln, Nebraska?
Speaker 2: Do you really need to ask that question?
Speaker 1: White? White, and whiter. It's high eighties. It's actually probably
Speaker 1: less because it's a capital city, but high eighties.
Speaker 2: It's so would have a fever dream.
Speaker 1: Alex Gordon is from Lincoln, Nebraska. That's one. He was
Speaker 1: a good He was a good player for the Royals
Speaker 1: and helped him win a World Series.
Speaker 2: And once again, Ryan just knows random things.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably the best Royals player of my
Speaker 1: lifetime until Bobby Witt became a thing. I I can
Speaker 1: at least know that, Lamb, tell me tell me three
Speaker 1: people from Lincoln.
Speaker 3: Three people from Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you said you were going to read famous
Speaker 1: people from Lincoln, Nebraska, and he made it sound like
Speaker 1: it was just a star stuttled lineup.
Speaker 3: I don't think I even said that did I.
Speaker 2: Was from there. I'm just kidding. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just made that up. He was not from there.
Speaker 1: It would make sense.
Speaker 3: Hillary Swank hot or not? Hillary Swank.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it, I get it. Landon, I see
Speaker 1: what you did there. That's an office reference.
Speaker 3: It was, yes, thank you. Ashley Graham seems to be
Speaker 3: born there. That's the second. That's the second most famous one.
Speaker 3: At least there's a hockey player apparently named Rutger mcgrorty.
Speaker 3: Everybody him Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 2: Your child's name is Rutger. He definitely says it with him.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: That noise made every cat in this room, all three
Speaker 1: of them wake up from a dead sleep and look
Speaker 1: at me like what was that? And I will tell
Speaker 1: them when they're a little bit older. Number one Auburn
Speaker 1: scored fifty three against number six Tennessee, but it was
Speaker 1: somehow enough to win because Rick Barnes totally not going
Speaker 1: to let them down. In March, offense only scored fifty one.
Speaker 1: The Tigers were three for twenty shooting threes, but they
Speaker 1: got a game winner from Miles Kelly with just thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left to escape with a win. Jeni Broome did
Speaker 1: not start. He's still not quite right, but the team
Speaker 1: keeps winning games other SEC games.
Speaker 3: Number twenty two Miszoo continues to strengthen its resume by
Speaker 3: punching Number sixteen Ole Miss by eight. Punching is what
Speaker 3: he reeds that is? Yeah, hm, I got it, I
Speaker 3: got it. That's a Cris Beard doing a punch against
Speaker 3: his wife. Reference allegedly allegedly what Ole Miss hired him.
Speaker 3: If that's not indictment enough. Number nine Kentucky was an upset.
Speaker 2: Comings Mississippi.
Speaker 3: That is true. That is actually extremely true. That's why
Speaker 3: they hired him. It's normal. Simbernine Kentucky was upset again,
Speaker 3: this time losing by five at Vandy after the offense
Speaker 3: went dry down the stretch. Alabama, Florida, Mississippi State all
Speaker 3: took care of business to earn wins. Unfortunately, the SEC
Speaker 3: is the best football and basketball conference at this point.
Speaker 2: Not taking care of business was John Caliperry, who hit
Speaker 2: an all time rock bottom by losing at Oklahoma. If
Speaker 2: you lose, poor Emosure, you should be guillotine. His team
Speaker 2: is a colossal dump. Speaking of dumps, usually random in
Speaker 2: fact of the day, I'm gonna get this out of
Speaker 2: the one five seconds. Medieval time is not a great
Speaker 2: time to be alive. If he had to take a deuce,
Speaker 2: he had to go to the high spool in the castle,
Speaker 2: and then you drop trout and you unleash the gates
Speaker 2: of hell from up in the tower. It would travel
Speaker 2: down a chute land into a boat. And then there
Speaker 2: was some poor bastard that just got done with his day,
Speaker 2: and the cotton ear in the field picking corn and
Speaker 2: wheat that has to go home to his cotton or
Speaker 2: as a candy corn teeth having wife and he has
Speaker 2: to shovel it out of the moat. That's that's actually
Speaker 2: a thing to be thankful.
Speaker 3: For the first time, to be in existence.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine, dude, sir, have you seen what happens
Speaker 1: in three years from now. I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I'd rather not be in constant fear of being just
Speaker 2: taken by feudy nights and taking a dump at the
Speaker 2: top of a tower, down a shoot and then having
Speaker 2: some man shovel it that poor guuy.
Speaker 1: At least you weren't the person shoveling it.
Speaker 2: As you as I think somebody was though, right, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was definitely somebody. Speaking of the guillotine, I think that's
Speaker 1: where we need to send Dan Hurley because he lost
Speaker 1: that a horrible Xavier team and number nineteen Yukon is
Speaker 1: ranked when Arizona is not. Because I think the only
Speaker 1: explanation is voters are scared that Dan Hurley will go
Speaker 1: to the top of his castle and take a dump
Speaker 1: on them if he does not, if his team falls
Speaker 1: from the ranks because they have no business being ranked
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: Back to uh did DePaul win? The answer, No, they
Speaker 3: lost by seventeen Butler.
Speaker 2: And a Street.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think the losing streak is now
Speaker 1: at two or three. It's they've lost a couple of
Speaker 1: times they're on there.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the win streak.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, it ended at one.
Speaker 2: Yes, ended at one.
Speaker 1: Ranked teams to lose since the last time I did
Speaker 1: a show. Number six, Tennessee they were game, but they
Speaker 1: lost at Auburn.
Speaker 3: Number nine Kentucky they lost to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2: Number twelve Kansas won for ninety nine point four percent
Speaker 2: of the game and then lost to Houston.
Speaker 1: Yes, they did. Number thirty A and M. They lost
Speaker 1: to Texas, but they won cams some money.
Speaker 3: Number fifteen Morgan lost to Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I supposed to push it patiently waiting. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: just waiting. Thanks Joe, I miss your man, uh Ole Miss. Well,
Speaker 2: that's not a political endorsement, damn it. Ole miss lost
Speaker 2: to Missouri.
Speaker 3: TV has no official political.
Speaker 1: Standing there the Party of Bill. We love Bill self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would vos until they matter.
Speaker 1: kJ Adams for the Department of Defense. I guess with
Speaker 1: a BB a shoe in right and K. But he's
Speaker 1: still good at defense, so it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Hunter Dickinson for accounting, just adding stats every single game, Treasury,
Speaker 2: I don't even know I'm stupid anyway, read these more
Speaker 2: because we have eighty five ask arcbs nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yukon lost the Xavier twenty one, Michigan lost to Brazil
Speaker 1: at number twenty three. West Virginia went to Manhattan and
Speaker 1: lost to the Come on them ranked team or last
Speaker 1: weekend pick them. I'm getting closer to the bottom, land
Speaker 1: and U you have might have some company in Chicago
Speaker 1: for our punishment here in a few weeks.
Speaker 3: At this rate, now, I'll figure out a way to choke.
Speaker 3: Don't worry.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, when when life gives you a
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo throwing the ball in balance, Landon will for
Speaker 1: sure find a way to wind up in Chicago in
Speaker 1: the first weekend of April.
Speaker 2: And they'll give you a hard ar Yeah, Grace.
Speaker 1: It depends on how I'm feeling at dick underscore Taser
Speaker 1: as we begin Ascar CV, who is an amazing uh
Speaker 1: dedication being put forth here to stick with the Haikus.
Speaker 1: As for the Jayhawks, he needs him to win three
Speaker 1: straight road games to stop tweeting. In Haikus, they're currently
Speaker 1: at one, with Baylor being next up. He says, you guys,
Speaker 1: ever get caught zucking and before you maybe asking yourself
Speaker 1: what is zucking? It is? Mark Zuckerberg got definitely caught
Speaker 1: staring right into the chest of Jeff Bezos's woman with
Speaker 1: her low hanging top at Inauguration Day and he is
Speaker 1: just staring straight down there looking for something that he dropped.
Speaker 2: He wishes, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Pretty sure that everybody at some point has been caught zucking, right,
Speaker 1: Like remember whenever they put Aj mccarran's girlfriend on TV
Speaker 1: and Brent moh almost lost it. That was my first
Speaker 1: time sucking.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever been caught, but I've
Speaker 3: I mean I've I've sucked a time or ten.
Speaker 2: You guys.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna try to ask his questions. Ten
Speaker 1: minute timer at Berner goff eighteen zero zero or two.
Speaker 1: I think we win the game against Houston if kJ
Speaker 1: is healthy. Am I wrong? Maybe because Flory plays less
Speaker 1: but AJ plays less? Two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might be wrong.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's very very close.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it actually flips it the defense
Speaker 1: is better, the offense is worse, and the final score
Speaker 1: probably still comes down to a coin flip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd lose that at James D.
Speaker 1: Bedford. If we played the last twenty one seconds of
Speaker 1: overtime again one hundred times, how many does KU win?
Speaker 1: The answer is one.
Speaker 2: Hundred ninety nine at worst.
Speaker 1: At worst they because in that situation, one free throw
Speaker 1: is a win, or one inbounds executed correctly is a win.
Speaker 1: Or Houston going anything but two for two from three
Speaker 1: or making the buzzer beater. All of those things had
Speaker 1: to go wrong for Kansas one hundred out of one hundred.
Speaker 1: That's your answer.
Speaker 2: It's true, they don't.
Speaker 1: It's not happening again at show Me Hawk. If for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the NCAA tournament had to be played in
Speaker 1: a regional bubble like twenty twenty one, what are some
Speaker 1: arenas you would want to host tournament games? I mean,
Speaker 1: I've always thought tournament games at places like Allen and
Speaker 1: Cameron would be really cool.
Speaker 2: The KFC Center because I went there once and wanted
Speaker 2: to die, so I want revenge.
Speaker 3: North North Carolina, like like the Durham Rawleigh, OH area.
Speaker 3: That'd be rad because there's a lot of arenas in
Speaker 3: that area. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cam, Cam, tell me all the arenas that you've
Speaker 1: seen Kansas lose basketball games.
Speaker 2: In the Palace of Auburn Hills Rip that's gone, Uh,
Speaker 2: the KFC YOUM Center. I think that's it actually because
Speaker 2: I watched Kansas lose. My first ever game is watching
Speaker 2: them lose to Bradley in the NCAA Tournament at the Palace,
Speaker 2: and then I watched them win at Ford Field in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight when they went to the National title.
Speaker 2: And then I watched them get just annihilated and just
Speaker 2: decimated by Jay Wright and Villanova at the KFC Young Center,
Speaker 2: which was horrendous.
Speaker 1: And you were at the Steph Curry game.
Speaker 2: That's actually at that I was. I was, I was
Speaker 2: like twelve, yeah, And I tell you, like the shot
Speaker 2: So where I was, I had pretty good seats with
Speaker 2: my dad and we weren't at mid court, but we
Speaker 2: were close. And the shot from our angle that Davidson
Speaker 2: took at the very end, it looked perfect from our
Speaker 2: vantage point and it just missed. I mean it was
Speaker 2: like four inches left I think of the rim or
Speaker 2: whatever it was. But yeah, no, that was cool.
Speaker 1: What have you have you ever been to Allen Fieldhouse?
Speaker 2: I've yeah, I have, I've been twice.
Speaker 1: What were the games?
Speaker 2: But they won both games? Uh? The one game that
Speaker 2: was just super into nondescript. It was like UNC Wilmington
Speaker 2: or something, or Ashville or something like that. And then
Speaker 2: the game where Kansas meat Villanova the year after the
Speaker 2: Final Four, where like three Jayhawks scored seventy points of
Speaker 2: their whatever.
Speaker 1: It was the La Gerald Vick, Dieter, Glosston, Devon, Dodson
Speaker 1: and nobody else did any bad team?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And honestly, that's a team that I regret
Speaker 2: going to watch so.
Speaker 1: At at they were good for a while at Staggosport.
Speaker 1: Paint a picture which I can be optimistic and excited
Speaker 1: about this team. I think we did. I think that
Speaker 1: that game should leave you feelly encouraged, and if Kansas
Speaker 1: does go on a little run, you'll kind of point
Speaker 1: to that and be like, Okay, they kind of figured
Speaker 1: some things out there at our scene Coat underscore FC.
Speaker 1: Will Kansas make it through the first weekend of the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. Let's make that a gun to your head question.
Speaker 1: You have to say yes or no. Do they make
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen. I think I would say.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Boy, bang bang bang. Good thing is none of us
Speaker 1: are gonna have to We're not gonna need Chicago because
Speaker 1: this hypothetical gun is doing the job for us at all.
Speaker 1: How interesting is it that Kansas is one of the
Speaker 1: best scoring teams in the paint, in the conference and
Speaker 1: the country, but they are bottom tier and three point shooting.
Speaker 1: Does their three point defense, which is also good, allow
Speaker 1: them to put others on the tier? Three point defense
Speaker 1: is all luck, all of it all? What it all luck?
Speaker 3: It's not all luck. It is it's not all helped
Speaker 3: by you.
Speaker 1: Notice how I haven't had people so the same people
Speaker 1: who say this team is the exact same as last
Speaker 1: year are also tweeting at me. Last year they were saying, well,
Speaker 1: they stuck at guarding threes, that's why eybody's making them,
Speaker 1: And this year I haven't gotten those because they're not
Speaker 1: getting blitzed from three because it's all Also, are.
Speaker 3: A much better defensive team than last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you realize that last year is three point defense.
Speaker 1: Last year's Kansas three point defense was one of the
Speaker 1: five best teams in the celf Era, and everybody thinks
Speaker 1: they sucked and they were not a great defensive team
Speaker 1: with the eye teams, but then they did this three
Speaker 1: point shooting is luck.
Speaker 2: I mean, then I guess they didn't stuck suck statistically,
Speaker 2: but we also would see them get boat raced at
Speaker 2: Hilton Coliseum with a guy making threes that just never
Speaker 2: makes three, which I guess you could say is is
Speaker 2: luck and to an extent, but you still have to
Speaker 2: close out.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like, sure you have to a hand up
Speaker 1: and all that, but looking at a team's the three
Speaker 1: point percentage against their team is not a great way
Speaker 1: to find out who the best defensive teams are. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of variance with that, Elliott awesome. Elliott also
Speaker 1: says I went on a mission following the last episode
Speaker 1: on College Basketball Reference to find some fun questions. He says,
Speaker 1: the best player turned coach in the Big twelve is
Speaker 1: Johnny Dawkins, and it's not close. I did know that
Speaker 1: figure that would come up at some point. Elliott says,
Speaker 1: as a collective, try to figure out what schools Bob
Speaker 1: Huggins played basketball at oh Man.
Speaker 2: I do not know this off.
Speaker 3: There's no way I'm getting that off the dome shot
Speaker 3: shot Elliott.
Speaker 2: He's a big supporter of the show. I will give,
Speaker 2: I'll get. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He does an awesome job and asks great questions. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Bob Huggins played one season somewhere and then transferred
Speaker 1: and played three seasons at a different school, and over
Speaker 1: the course of his career he ever's nine points and
Speaker 1: three rebounds in ninety nine career games. He was listed
Speaker 1: at six to four.
Speaker 2: There is no wait, Cincinnati question, purk, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It is a schoolly coach that.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing Kansas State.
Speaker 1: He started at Ohio, he played in the MAC and
Speaker 1: then he transferred when you had to sit out a
Speaker 1: year and played three years at West Virginia, which I
Speaker 1: would have guessed. Never would have.
Speaker 2: Found out Ohio, I would I actually would have guessed.
Speaker 2: I didn't think he played there.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, La, keep the good questions coming, man. These
Speaker 1: are always entertaining, especially whenever you think about how Bob
Speaker 1: Huggins wound up looking like he did. He was a
Speaker 1: good coach, He was a good basketball player at one
Speaker 1: point at Drew Watton. Now that the regular season is over, well, yes,
Speaker 1: what a chance they make the Sweet sixteen. We kind
Speaker 1: of just talked about that. I think it's slightly better
Speaker 1: than fifty percent At Ryan Morgan nineteen twenty six. When
Speaker 1: are we gonna get some new younger assistance on the
Speaker 1: staff instead of the retirement all Now, Bill Cells staff
Speaker 1: is consistently regarded as one of the best in the country. Man, like, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, the least a couple of coin flips
Speaker 1: and yeah, they're yeah, the assistants are just fine. At
Speaker 1: LW ten ninety eight twenty four, What is the difference
Speaker 1: between this year and last year? Bill emphasized roster construction,
Speaker 1: but here we are in the same spot. No spacing,
Speaker 1: limited shooting. Was this a case of bad talent scouting
Speaker 1: in the portal? And how do we account for missus
Speaker 1: when the cost is at a premium? Okay, what would
Speaker 1: you guys say to that? And on a serious note,
Speaker 1: how is this team different than last year? For better
Speaker 1: or worse?
Speaker 3: One they have better players than they did last year? Yep,
Speaker 3: that's the primary thing, to be quite honest, it's a
Speaker 3: better construction than last year. Last year genuinely is like
Speaker 3: in hindsight, one of the least talented teams they've had
Speaker 3: by actual production. Yeah, they were supposed to be talented
Speaker 3: and they ended up not being. In mccullor's injury and
Speaker 3: all that. I mean, this team is so much better
Speaker 3: on defense. They are way more cohesive as a unit.
Speaker 3: Dare I say they have more fight?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think. I think the answer to that question
Speaker 2: is super simple. This team is deeper and then last
Speaker 2: year's team sucked deeper and more consistent. Yeah, there's better.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: At Show Me Hawk, this is gonna sound like Kansas
Speaker 1: fans are spoilt. Take but Houston coming into the Big
Speaker 1: twelve and snatching our chain. It's just like the Ones
Speaker 1: Bongebob episode where he imagined Squidward winning Employee of the
Speaker 1: Year amongst a wall of spongebobs. YEP pretty much said
Speaker 1: exactly that earlier. Kansas fans don't like how the new
Speaker 1: guy in town does what they do for the time being.
Speaker 1: A little bit better doesn't mean it won't change, but
Speaker 1: it's a irritange. They're like, Hey, this is my streets.
Speaker 1: What do you mean You're just as good, if not
Speaker 1: a little better than me now And also, Show Me
Speaker 1: Hawk says I've avoided pressing the panic button for the
Speaker 1: Kansas team up until Saturday night's game, which I this.
Speaker 1: He says they blew it twice in a must win
Speaker 1: game versus Houston. Now they're five and three and our
Speaker 1: three games back at first with a tough schedule coming up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a must win game unless you're considering the
Speaker 1: must do thing winning the Big Twelve. This team could
Speaker 1: finish third in the Big Twelve, and with regardless of
Speaker 1: the record, you're gonna feel you could feel really good
Speaker 1: about them entering the Big Twelve tournament and ncaaas it
Speaker 1: was by no stretch, at least in my opinion, a
Speaker 1: must win game unless you really value winning the league
Speaker 1: that much. Otherwise, I don't know how you can say
Speaker 1: that that was the moment that made you push the
Speaker 1: panic button.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the structure? This might take too long,
Speaker 3: but can we talk about the structure of college basketball
Speaker 3: for one second? Because I think it's best comp and
Speaker 3: I know you guys aren't super familiar with this, and
Speaker 3: that's totally fine. But is European soccer, to be quite honest,
Speaker 3: where everyone has like their own league and everyone has
Speaker 3: their own league to win, and then based on how
Speaker 3: you do in those leagues, you play in European competition
Speaker 3: across all leagues and everyone plays against each other. There's
Speaker 3: actually multiple things in multiple tournaments and multiple competitions you
Speaker 3: can win in any given year, and college basketball has
Speaker 3: some of that. That you have your conference, you have
Speaker 3: your conference tournament. You know a lot of teams play
Speaker 3: in Thanksgiving tournaments and have little trophies that can win there.
Speaker 3: And then obviously there's March Madness and even obviously to
Speaker 3: a much much lesser extent like dan I t and stuff.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of trophies you can win in
Speaker 3: a given season. And I would also like so obviously
Speaker 3: for a team like Kansas, winning the national title via
Speaker 3: the trophy you can.
Speaker 2: Win is.
Speaker 3: The like, that is your most important thing, and that's
Speaker 3: a real, like, at least a vaguely realistic goal for Kansas,
Speaker 3: like most seasons. But if you're like Ohio State, where
Speaker 3: if you are any number of what has been totally
Speaker 3: fine big twelve teams, or if you are you know,
Speaker 3: just any real like middle of the road program, like
Speaker 3: what are you trying to win in a given year,
Speaker 3: I'd say for most of little teams that actually is
Speaker 3: their conference, and probably the regular season conference is the
Speaker 3: most like competitively difficult thing you can win. Is that crazy?
Speaker 1: Especially at this pace with how conferences are getting bigger.
Speaker 1: The Jayawks won ten team big twelves. Now they have
Speaker 1: almost twice as many teams and it's probably getting even
Speaker 1: bigger in the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to do. Also, hot take the conference tournament
Speaker 3: should not determine autobids.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a story for another day because we have
Speaker 1: to move on to the preview here at some point.
Speaker 1: But so if we didn't get to the questions, just
Speaker 1: ran out of time to date. But I will try
Speaker 1: to come back to the next show just to touch
Speaker 1: on a couple of things here at MAYOZI Berner, Yes,
Speaker 1: now is the best time to invest in the future
Speaker 1: of this team for my money at show me Hawk.
Speaker 1: If the Chief Stadium has a retractable roof that they build,
Speaker 1: that's going to be just for final four as in
Speaker 1: Team Mobile would continue to get the regional places. And
Speaker 1: at Berner Goff eighteen zers ear or two a couple
Speaker 1: of teams we wouldn't want Kansas to play come in
Speaker 1: see a tournament time. It's the same story every year.
Speaker 1: They have to avoid the teams that are really good
Speaker 1: at putting pressure on the ball, because those are the teams,
Speaker 1: especially on a short turnaround, that Kansas has had tendency
Speaker 1: to struggle with. And I never want to see him
Speaker 1: play teams that can absolutely light the nets on fire
Speaker 1: from three, which probably isn't UCF, which is why we're
Speaker 1: now going to do that. UCF at number eleven. Yes,
Speaker 1: they did go up in the rankings Kansas on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: January eighth. Then if you are January twenty eighth, and
Speaker 1: if you didn't think this game is going to be
Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus, then well where were you all those years?
Speaker 3: The Central Florida Knights, they are thirteen and six overall,
Speaker 3: they are four and four and Big twelve play. They
Speaker 3: lost Kansas by fifty one points three weeks ago. Not
Speaker 3: a great outing for UCF.
Speaker 2: There, Nope. Wing Keishaan Hall is a team's top overall
Speaker 2: scorer at seventeen points and seven rebounds. Point Guard Darius
Speaker 2: Johnson and his fifteen points per game, is a team's
Speaker 2: best three point shooter at forty two percent. Slashing wing
Speaker 2: Jordan Ivy Curry is a team's best free throw shooter
Speaker 2: at eighty seven percent while also averaging fifteen per game.
Speaker 2: Dallan Coleman, who does not play for BYU and Jalen Sellers,
Speaker 2: also gets minutes. As UCFS almost always uses a four
Speaker 2: guard lineup.
Speaker 1: They're starting center as Senegal freshman Mostafa tiam He is
Speaker 1: seven two two thirty five and he's he's a lot
Speaker 1: better than he was earlier in his career. He's getting
Speaker 1: better quickly. He's a lot better at avoiding foul trouble.
Speaker 3: It was a.
Speaker 1: Struggle for a while, and now he's playing about twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes a game. He averages nine to five and
Speaker 1: he has gotten a lot better. Should be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how he defends a primary four guard defense can
Speaker 1: defend what's going to be the Hunter and Floory show again.
Speaker 3: UCF is one of the best teams in the country
Speaker 3: during contact and getting to the free throw line. They
Speaker 3: average eighteen makes and twenty three attempts per game from
Speaker 3: the stripe, and their seventy seven percent free throw percentages
Speaker 3: top thirty nationally. They're good at taking the ball away
Speaker 3: and they've been solid rebounding the ball, and they're a
Speaker 3: good three point shooting team as well. That's thirty five percent.
Speaker 3: Regardless of what they showed in the first matchup. The
Speaker 3: struggles have been two point show's settling for long range
Speaker 3: jumpers and fouling quite a bit though, as we did
Speaker 3: see in Orlando.
Speaker 1: Boy did we see that? Yeah, the long jumper will
Speaker 1: launch from anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the night's first trip to Allen Field House.
Speaker 2: It is a rubber match in the all time series.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and take the first pick here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Kansas wins this game eighty two to
Speaker 2: sixty seven in a game that we will all forget
Speaker 2: happened in about two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, that's a pretty excellent pick, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll take Kansas like eighty four to sixty five, and
Speaker 3: it's probably a little closer than that. A lot of
Speaker 3: this game. I mean again, on paper, I think UCF
Speaker 3: on it is not a horrible matchup, but clearly the
Speaker 3: first game was was not like you see if not
Speaker 3: up to the task. I think they will equit themselves
Speaker 3: better than a fifty one point loss. I do not
Speaker 3: think this will be particularly close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a game or Kansas that UCF's
Speaker 1: gotta just wish if they could draw Kansas not off
Speaker 1: a really frustrating home loss, because now they're coming back
Speaker 1: to Allen Field House to be for a team that's
Speaker 1: in the same spot as Kansas was to play the
Speaker 1: first time. I think Kansas wins, but I think it's
Speaker 1: closer than you guys do. I think it's something like
Speaker 1: eighty three to seventy four. I think UCF's gonna score
Speaker 1: some points. They're gonna shoot the ball better than they
Speaker 1: did in the first game, and I think it'll be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see how they adjust. They have a
Speaker 1: good coach and they've been that game is far and
Speaker 1: away the outlier and what's been a pretty solid season
Speaker 1: for them. I would anticipate them keeping this game a
Speaker 1: lot closer and no kJ Adams in this game for Kansas,
Speaker 1: which may be a positive on offense. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see the Jayhawks score plenty of points. It'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see if ucfs three point shooting can keep
Speaker 1: them in it, or if they shoot it like they
Speaker 1: did the first time, the game's gonna be over very quickly.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: What if they lose like one hundred and ten to forty.
Speaker 1: There, then they're point differential Big Twelve place. That would
Speaker 1: be even funnier because they'd be still hovering around five hundred.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that the two bigs is going
Speaker 1: to help them. If they're not shooting the ball well.
Speaker 1: From three, Kansas is going to overwhelm them with Dickenson.
Speaker 3: And Flory, which is what happened in the first game,
Speaker 3: and I think it's very likely to happen again other games.
Speaker 1: In the Big twelve game going on right now, and
Speaker 1: it's tied with eight minutes left, So take your choice.
Speaker 1: Number three. Iowa State at Arizona. Give me the Wildcats
Speaker 1: at home.
Speaker 2: Same, give me Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Cam's the pick him leader and he has spoken Baylor
Speaker 1: at BYU. I hate everything about this matchup, but I
Speaker 1: will take BYU at home.
Speaker 3: I think same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, why not?
Speaker 1: Arizona State at Colorado. I will go ahead and pick
Speaker 1: Colorado because if it's not here, I don't know where
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: Give me the Sun Devils.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually gonna take the Sun Devil here.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Utah and a game I don't want to pick.
Speaker 1: I said I wouldn't pick Utah all year. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Give me the Bearcats.
Speaker 3: Uh, give me the youths.
Speaker 2: I will take the Bearcats.
Speaker 1: Number six Houston at West Virginia. This is a fascinating game.
Speaker 1: Houston's gotta lose one eventually, and this feels like a
Speaker 1: good spot to take him. But West Virginia has not
Speaker 1: played well at all, and I don't feel like going
Speaker 1: against the team that's won them all. I will take
Speaker 1: the Cougars.
Speaker 3: M this is this is a really tough one. West
Speaker 3: Virginia off the loss. Houston eight. Oh give me, give
Speaker 3: me the Cougs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cougars.
Speaker 1: TCU at number twenty two Texas Tech. That one feels
Speaker 1: pretty easy. We all want the Red Raiders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma State at Kansas State and that if you
Speaker 1: watch this game, you should have your head examined. Bowl.
Speaker 1: I will take Jerome Tang to win another one at home.
Speaker 2: Same Yeah, Tang is cooking.
Speaker 1: And then just two other games this week. Number twelve
Speaker 1: Kentucky at number eight Tennessee. Mark Pope's team is slipping
Speaker 1: a bit. Do they go into Knoxville and get a win?
Speaker 3: They do not?
Speaker 2: Yes, no, they do not.
Speaker 1: Correct, but it wouldn't stun me. I think that this
Speaker 1: is a bad matchup for the balls, but I will
Speaker 1: take them at home and a number fifteen Saint John's
Speaker 1: the Fighting Patinos, first time we picked them all year.
Speaker 1: Do they go on the road and win at Georgetown?
Speaker 1: I say, yes, yeah, sure, when not?
Speaker 2: Give me Rick Pasino? All right?
Speaker 1: Our next show's coming out later this week, and we
Speaker 1: have Baylor and Waco up next. I'm gonna read what
Speaker 1: Cam read wrote there, and then I read past number
Speaker 1: four or five and said, no, I cannot read that
Speaker 1: because it's a Waco joke. And you know what, Waco
Speaker 1: is kind of a joke if you think about it.
Speaker 1: At least it is when Kansas goes there because they
Speaker 1: always lose. Yay m.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One more askcarcb just because we have time at Kendra
Speaker 1: Hawk forty five. Why are all the incoming players having
Speaker 1: such a hard time shooting the three? It was such
Speaker 1: a big focus after last season and they're right back
Speaker 1: in the same spot again. Is it on the staff?
Speaker 1: How do they adapt? Et CETERA good question to end on.
Speaker 2: Huh uh. I don't know, there's no answer. They should
Speaker 2: be better than this, be better figure it out.
Speaker 1: Griffin and Mayo are shooting really well. Right to shoot
Speaker 1: the three transfers that they log are fort shooters. I
Speaker 1: think that that. I think that this is more so
Speaker 1: Harris and Dick Andson and and kJ are no threat
Speaker 1: to make threes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 3: everyone else.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fine. They will be you know
Speaker 2: what screwed? I said enough on the show show Kansas
Speaker 2: will be fine. What that means they'll be fine?
Speaker 1: We said, we said Cam has like a once perst
Speaker 1: show arc. And you just saw it, folks, you just
Speaker 1: saw it. The opening to this is is just pure gold.
Speaker 1: This is inside up in the last ninety minutes, that's
Speaker 1: until next time. Literally, this is inside the faint on
Speaker 1: rock chalk flog Im Ryan Lander.
Speaker 2: I'm landing Fields and I'm gonna throw my phone in
Speaker 2: disgust if Kansas loses tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's understandable, all right, everybody behaved
Speaker 2: Cam by Cam's phone Later, guys,