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<v Speaker 2>On the Size, We all on the ways the loudest

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<v Speaker 2>right by the same long we stand as one Looplin

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<v Speaker 2>had stripe down the pole and protect this land. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it's all father seer voice, guide our souls to the

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<v Speaker 2>sacred rhythm.

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<v Speaker 3>Frick, Queen of the hat Fus Home, would look.

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<v Speaker 2>At grace Vegas holes.

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<v Speaker 4>With your fire might guide a food the top night.

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<v Speaker 2>Misterss's life, Fanta show us the with every breath, cry

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<v Speaker 2>out and lot we honor you know and forever more

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<v Speaker 2>photos to lisus.

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<v Speaker 4>We call the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>We see shocals, hustles, ride out us.

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<v Speaker 3>We say fly away locals.

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<v Speaker 2>Last, Now, please listen, spers rise on the windsaspring gas

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<v Speaker 2>for we trusts.

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<v Speaker 5>All.

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<v Speaker 3>Right here we are back again on the Gray Armed

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<v Speaker 3>Pagans Podcast with a new guest. I mean you, you

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<v Speaker 3>jumped in on one that I did with with fire

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<v Speaker 3>Fae the other day. But this is our first first

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<v Speaker 3>one on one actually, so dude, thanks for joining. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good to do a it's good to do one

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<v Speaker 3>one on one. I mean we've been talking a lot

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<v Speaker 3>in different groups, two of which now defunct.

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<v Speaker 4>Well well yeah, well for me one just one.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, you're still welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my first group. Yeah, that was my first group.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're still welcoming the other?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, wait which one?

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<v Speaker 6>Both?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Both gods on the spectrum and unchained are now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's never on unchained you were never what okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh ship, dude, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just me. No, I never got an invite and

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<v Speaker 4>it was better off I guess you know. I was

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<v Speaker 4>even kicked out of the church.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the unchained uncha.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because there was a church on Sundays. Yeah wow,

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<v Speaker 4>So I I joined a few, like one day it

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<v Speaker 4>was fine, and the second day it was another host

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<v Speaker 4>and then I couldn't even join. They came with the

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<v Speaker 4>benefit of the doubt because it was towards the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the session, right, So yeah, Yostin and were speaking like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh maybe because we're logging off soon. Okay, But now

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<v Speaker 4>after seeing all this okay, Yeah, it's it's just weird

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<v Speaker 4>how people will just reject someone based on actually don't

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<v Speaker 4>even know them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I got into those groups via ghost

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<v Speaker 3>of course, like he seems to be the main man

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<v Speaker 3>to like get everyone in for some reason. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that's you know, part of his vampire skills. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Gods on the Spectrum, it was cool, you know, Snake

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<v Speaker 3>made a lot of promises and then unchained Church, Unchained, Legion,

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<v Speaker 3>unchained something. They changed names so much and it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that felt like like the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 5>And then all of a sudden, it's like, hey, where

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<v Speaker 5>did what?

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<v Speaker 3>What? What happened? Like I couldn't and the Gods on

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<v Speaker 3>the Spectrum group anymore? My message Snake, like a bro,

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<v Speaker 3>what happened? I'm still to this day waiting for an answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Never go.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it got kicked out of the Unchained as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's probably because we're independent thinkers and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>like to, you know, follow other people.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't that the whole point of that group to supposedly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not even gonna entertain how people think. No, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not my business.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you shouldn't and you know, you're like you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing your own own thing now. I mean like we

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<v Speaker 3>completely skipped the introduction, you know, like we just went into.

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<v Speaker 4>It right away. But I mean I don't do interest

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<v Speaker 4>myself because I don't want to narradate the how people

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<v Speaker 4>should see the guests. I want the guests to reveal

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<v Speaker 4>who they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, of course, but you know they they got

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<v Speaker 3>to have, you know, like some idea of like who

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<v Speaker 3>you are, what do you do? Where can the people

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<v Speaker 3>just basically your tender bio, you know, or grinder?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where that is good. I haven't. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't had a dating app since maybe maybe well

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<v Speaker 4>maybe almost close to twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, there were dating apps twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, I was thirteen, Like, come on, there are dinosaurs

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<v Speaker 4>I do exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't about the mister media full of people or no

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<v Speaker 3>else media that is even like dinosaurs who exist? Oh

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<v Speaker 3>that's the first, ladies and gentlemen. The first one, the

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<v Speaker 3>grand old Pagan's podcast Life Living Dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm notes in. I'm from La. That's it. I did.

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<v Speaker 4>My podcast Life is a dream that doesn't awakening. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a weird title. But because I have that tattooed

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<v Speaker 4>on me, I'm on the gate cool. Yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>why it ended that, because you know, I was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was friends with other podcasters and then they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we should get these tattoos for based on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not gonna do that. No one really does that.

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<v Speaker 4>So because I have this tattoo, like wait, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be the title. It's in Spanish backwards, so it's in

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<v Speaker 4>a mirror. Lavidas la mar. Yeah, so life is a

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<v Speaker 4>dream that it's an awakening. I always love that and

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<v Speaker 4>going to my spiritual journey and like, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you have to kill something in you to come up

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<v Speaker 4>with new ideas or kill a thought even Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just that's that's the age old self sacrifice part.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yes, you see that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many religions or spiritual paths. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>self sacrifice. You have to sacrifice something of yourself to

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<v Speaker 3>like kill the old to make room for the new.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, like Voton did it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he sacrificed so much and did so much

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<v Speaker 3>little nasty shit as well, but you know, now he

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<v Speaker 3>is the wisest and most powerful of all the gods.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he sacrificed himself to himself. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>win swept Tree for nine days and nine nights as

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<v Speaker 3>so too or no. Because he did that, he managed

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<v Speaker 3>to discover the magic of the ruins, and that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a very powerful form of magic, especially here in Northern

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<v Speaker 3>Europe as zella.

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<v Speaker 4>Reincarnation, as you think yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>God, big questions right away, I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought about like what reincarnation is or how

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<v Speaker 3>it's works. I've heard several theories about it. The one

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<v Speaker 3>that's I think is the most most peculiar to think

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<v Speaker 3>about is that, you know how they say that when

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<v Speaker 3>you die, like you see a bright light, like at

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<v Speaker 3>the light at the end of the tunnel. There are

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<v Speaker 3>people who say that like light that you see is

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<v Speaker 3>you being reborn, you know, coming out of a new

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<v Speaker 3>mother's womb, if you will, Like that is the first

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<v Speaker 3>light you see. Which what kind of mean that, like

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<v Speaker 3>reincarnation is instantaneous. I'm not too sure about that. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a brother on the other side of the veil, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that he is still around. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, passed on if you will. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like reincarnation, A lot of people will say I believe

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<v Speaker 3>that's more of a new age way of thinking. That

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<v Speaker 3>you're well now, reincarnation is ancient. You know, many many

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<v Speaker 3>religions and spiritual paths believe in the existence of reincarnation,

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<v Speaker 3>but that our souls make a choice like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the life that you live is chosen beforehand, and that

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<v Speaker 3>your your soul, your essence, your life energy, made the

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<v Speaker 3>choice to live that life before reincarnating in this physical body,

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can learn all the lessons that you

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<v Speaker 3>are supposed to learn because you haven't learned those in

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<v Speaker 3>a previous life or something. I don't know. There are

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<v Speaker 3>many theories. I don't know which one is sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I said this just now in the group. I think

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<v Speaker 4>truth is between you and God. Everything else is speculation

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<v Speaker 4>and philosophy. But you could think of what could be.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say we go in a room us two and

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<v Speaker 4>one of us sees God. You're never gonna know. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>let's say I do. You're not gonna know, right, You're

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna you believe me or you don't. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's between me and God, and I think I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to tell people because again, that's between me and God.

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<v Speaker 4>People are not gonna believe me, and then eventually it

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<v Speaker 4>could be viral. Right ah, yeah, I talk to God.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that loses its purpose because it's between us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not supposed to be between the whole world or

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<v Speaker 4>even the third person. Okay, how will you know? All

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do is trust me? Right, you can

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<v Speaker 4>just go by what I'm telling you trust you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's trust the science God. Please no, never again.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's a good one actually. Like, so in your like,

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<v Speaker 5>in your view the.

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<v Speaker 3>The divine, if you will, let's take it very broadly.

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<v Speaker 3>The divine is a personal experience or like, would you

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<v Speaker 3>say that you know God? I have multiple of course,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know that God is the same God for everyone, right.

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<v Speaker 4>The source right where everything comes from. Because going back

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<v Speaker 4>to the light that you said, when someone has life

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<v Speaker 4>near that experience and the I saw that light when

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<v Speaker 4>I discovered God and not and die. I'm still here. Yeah, sure, America,

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<v Speaker 4>that inside. But that's what's so embarrassing now. When I

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<v Speaker 4>discovered how the flower you know, but it wasn't even that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the fact that I discovered the anthisicist of

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<v Speaker 4>the truth, right, the globe model I felt for like

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<v Speaker 4>the opposition of that which is the flat earth, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh shit, can't believe this is the truth. But it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't even that. It's it's the between both, like the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that I could I knew how mind control works.

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<v Speaker 4>If they make me think that there's a globe, they

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<v Speaker 4>can make me think anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They can make you believe it's flat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and they did. But then again I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>why why am I falling for this an phisicists. That

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean it's true. It's a new discovery for me, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but it doesn't make it so doesn't mean it's truth.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's when I was started reading the Bible too,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, wait, you're still telling me what you

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<v Speaker 4>think I'm reading something and that's playing with my mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's not different.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's why I have to be very careful

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<v Speaker 3>when you know, reading and thinking about these these things,

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<v Speaker 3>because there are so many people who are stuck in

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<v Speaker 3>one particular kind of kind of belief, like one way

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking that for them is the absolute and ultimate truth.

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<v Speaker 5>And that may be the case for them, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that I got in with Matt and Dean

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<v Speaker 3>events that are like very bad in nature, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So for him they were good, so therefore it's a

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<v Speaker 3>try to argue that, Okay, that may be the case

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<v Speaker 3>for you, but just because you were better off for it,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that it was a good experience, Like it's

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, you know, but you know, subjectively

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<v Speaker 5>personally it was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what can be good for you can be bad

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<v Speaker 3>for me and vice versa. And it's like, no, there

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<v Speaker 4>As like ultimate bad, ultimate good or by the way around,

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<v Speaker 4>personally because it happened to me, therefore it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, COVID. You know, I think we all most

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<v Speaker 4>it to make money, to get rid of people. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It was much much more than that it or was

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<v Speaker 3>a virus at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So I'm still trying to wake people up from

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<v Speaker 4>that in my circle, because there's people that are therapists

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<v Speaker 4>around me. They just believe in the whole. They believe

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<v Speaker 4>what they're told. Right, And because I got COVID, I

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<v Speaker 4>almost died from COVID, I could easily say, see it

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<v Speaker 4>is true, I almost die from it. Therefore it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But we have to sit back and say, look, this

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<v Speaker 4>is I'm just like the one percent. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 4>could easily take it personally, make it, make it about me.

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<v Speaker 4>See it did happen. I was a victim to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Therefore it's true what they're telling us. No, So I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of people take things personally, even communism.

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<v Speaker 4>I still don't know much about the topic, but some again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's always something able to kill something, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Killed about ninety million people, So you could say it's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but this they know. But I see they say

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<v Speaker 3>World War Two, although the number is a bit lower.

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<v Speaker 4>But see that that's my thing. I feel alone because

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<v Speaker 4>like you just said, well, yeah, because they killed ninety

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<v Speaker 4>thousand people, ninety million you said ninety mili, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>Like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I'm saying history repeats itself. They're doing the

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I mean the same thanks time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I'm so discried, And that's why I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like history. I don't know. It doesn't matter what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>because I will never know. I'm not gonna fault for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing it in front of my eyes. Why am

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<v Speaker 4>I gonna believe a boot or an article even someone

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<v Speaker 4>said the video about a certain group of people that

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<v Speaker 4>are evil. Okay, great presentation, but that's not If anybody

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<v Speaker 4>could put a video together and try to push a narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially with the rise of generative AI, exactly, rings can

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<v Speaker 3>very easily be manipulated and fabricated.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, see, it's happening in front of our eyes, So

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<v Speaker 4>why can't we question?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 6>That's and that's the whole reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's set instant. This happened, this, this and

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<v Speaker 3>this and that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, But even I know, But even just now

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<v Speaker 4>you just said, well, yeah, people die being able to communism.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the yeah, of course, o god, according.

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<v Speaker 6>True, true.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like who knows if that is the actual number.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is the number that we have been

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<v Speaker 3>given in the history books. Then again, history is always

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<v Speaker 3>written by the victor, you know, so it's and every

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<v Speaker 3>history book ever has been twisted to fit some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of narrative, whether it be like a group narrative, a

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<v Speaker 3>personal narrative, a political narrative, the like actual history. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll agree with you, Like actual history, what actually happened.

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<v Speaker 3>We will never know.

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<v Speaker 5>We have accounts from different people what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he will say it happened this way.

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<v Speaker 3>He will say it happened that way, and she will

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<v Speaker 3>say no, no, no, both of them are wrong because

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<v Speaker 3>it happened this way.

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<v Speaker 4>What's true even in the Bible, right, the book according

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<v Speaker 4>to John and the book according to Matthew. It's according

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<v Speaker 4>to the person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so someone else, someone else heard it and wrote

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<v Speaker 3>it down. You know, it's like a secondhand story, if

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<v Speaker 3>you will. I heard someone tell me this, so I

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<v Speaker 3>decided to write it down. Mm hmm but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I I still maybe I mayst remember things, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I heard certain things that you know, I thought were said,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not what was actually said. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, that's why I'm just I'm like, I listened

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<v Speaker 4>to all these podcasters. Oh you know what the but

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<v Speaker 4>the new media, what the new form of fake news

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<v Speaker 4>is mm hmm podcasters. Yeah, we just spread shit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>And because I can't believe we're like two podcasters here

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<v Speaker 3>shipping on podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's why I haven't. I haven't no, because it's.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, like it's such a like open source

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<v Speaker 3>of media and still so relatively new, and anyone can

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<v Speaker 3>start a podcast. Doesn't mean that anyone should because there

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<v Speaker 3>are podcasts out there that I'm like, really like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what they're gonna talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you do you, but they also have a purpose

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<v Speaker 4>for a certain persons stage and their awakening or sort

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<v Speaker 4>of speak, because people are still stuck in the flow Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>People are still Christians, people are still and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know much about pagan so I'm not even going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's on the rise again. No, it actually is

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<v Speaker 3>like the the old gods really have returned, and the

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<v Speaker 3>people who going back to the roots of their ancestors

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<v Speaker 3>are increasing and increasing well yearly.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do like the how there's an energy between things.

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<v Speaker 4>Like It's funny because when I was going through I

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<v Speaker 4>feel I think, I think I send this to the

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<v Speaker 4>to the group I need to I need to learn love.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to talk to the love, the god

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<v Speaker 4>of love. It's like something that I had to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are several pick one.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I am I don't know if I call

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<v Speaker 4>them gods or energy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. I mean there I I would

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<v Speaker 3>say that the god form is created by man's so

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<v Speaker 3>that we may better understand it that the gods have

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<v Speaker 3>created us in their own image. Maybe the other way

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<v Speaker 3>around as well. We kind of create have created this

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<v Speaker 3>image of the gods as superhumans, if you will, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they are kind of like us. They still have are

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<v Speaker 3>like some of our flaws, but they're just like a

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<v Speaker 3>like higher evolved version of us, a higher consciousness, a

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<v Speaker 3>higher form of energy. And I am myself, I'm leaning

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<v Speaker 3>more towards the young and school of thinking, like that

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<v Speaker 3>they are archetypes, you know, who represent a certain type

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<v Speaker 3>of being who represent a certain type of energy, a

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<v Speaker 3>certain type of living. You know, the dragon slayer, the lover,

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<v Speaker 3>the wise old man, if you will, like those are archetypes,

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<v Speaker 3>those are roles, and there are certain gods that we

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<v Speaker 3>that we have ascribed those archetypes two or the other

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<v Speaker 3>way around. Perhaps I'm still kind of figuring that out,

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<v Speaker 3>but I you know, because there are so many different

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<v Speaker 3>a different kind of gods, but all of them seem

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<v Speaker 3>to have things in common. So it makes more more

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<v Speaker 3>sense if they are like the same energy, the same archetype,

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think I like that roles because so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I think it's just humans. I don't believe in aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>Is when I started reading the by what I believe,

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<v Speaker 4>there was nettling all these things and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>even dinosaurs are like wait, there's no dinosaurs, or there's

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<v Speaker 4>no evolution. It's always been us. We do take different roles.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, we create a group, we want to get

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<v Speaker 4>different types of people that have different abilities. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>they're already in us those roles or those abilities or

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<v Speaker 4>those powers, whatever, you want to call them. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>not that far, Petch. I think we go to this

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<v Speaker 4>fantasy world where we have you seen the movie Big Fish?

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<v Speaker 4>Long we talked about this and when my cameo when

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<v Speaker 4>I little, anyways, that's more what.

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<v Speaker 3>Long long ago, but I I I remember it being

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<v Speaker 4>Is very dramatic. He blows things out of proportion, like notes,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's that's funny. Okay, Well, let me think that

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<v Speaker 4>I go to the gym. There's this little guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>six too, This little guy, he's like a full grown man,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's little. He was like indigenous. But wait, like

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<v Speaker 4>to him, I'm a giant. To me, he's like a dwarf.

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<v Speaker 4>So we already here, like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're already mythological beings to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we all are, yes, exactly. And it always takes two.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't know anything unless there's two of you. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why he said it's between me and God or anybody

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<v Speaker 4>in God. Okay, that's why even said in astrology, like

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<v Speaker 4>I that's why I love a stology because I could

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<v Speaker 4>think somebody's an asshole, but then somebody else know he's

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<v Speaker 4>very strong minded or whatever. So it's always a it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a duality almost, but physically mentally, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think mentally like really can can vary, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like the mental spectrum like I am like on a

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<v Speaker 3>day to day basis, I am not the same mentally, No,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody is like, that's that's nature versus nurture. It's your surrounding.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where you live, it's how you live. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>like so much. And yeah, there are certain factors that

422
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 3>you can control, there are certain things that you can do,

423
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 3>but you know, still a lot of it has to

424
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 3>do with your immediate surrounding. That's why when I moved

425
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 3>some moved here back in April, almost most a year ago. Actually,

426
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I believe it's a fucking full year since I moved

427
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.319
<v Speaker 3>back here. You know, this is a where I live now.

428
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a smaller town. I grew up in the city

429
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>for the last like ten years, like since I moved out,

430
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>that's twenty. I always lived in the city. At twenty two,

431
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 3>twenty three, I moved back to my hometown town where

432
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 3>I was born. Big city, like very you know, busy

433
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>and crowded and all of that. And I notice now,

434
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 3>like in just a year that this smaller town. It

435
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 3>is doing so much for my mental health that you know,

436
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 3>it's quiet, it's more quiet, it's more peaceful. There is

437
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.599
<v Speaker 3>just less here. And then when I you know, go

438
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 3>back to the city because like my hometown, I still

439
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 3>work there for the time being, every damn time on

440
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.720
<v Speaker 3>what get me the fuck out of here? Like I

441
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 3>love my city, but holy shit, this is pressing.

442
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 4>Mental health. Yeah, another trigger for me because there's an

443
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 4>agenda behind that, right.

444
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 3>There always is with everything.

445
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, but you can't we can't fall for it,

446
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 4>like mental health. What there's no option as a man.

447
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 4>You just gotta keep living and work.

448
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean that is you know, the the

449
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 3>archetype of the man. You know, going back to the

450
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 3>archetypes thing. You know, you're the you're the provider, you're

451
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 3>the fighter, You're the head of the household. You know,

452
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 3>you're the one who takes care of your wife so

453
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 3>that she can take care of you know, of the

454
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 3>children of the home, or you know, you're like your

455
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 3>your partner in in your case. And you know, that's

456
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.319
<v Speaker 3>the archetype of the man. We're not supposed to like

457
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 3>show any emotions. We're supposed to work, fight and you know,

458
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>take care of everyone, work, fight, provide, that's what we

459
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 3>are supposed to do. Emotions I have no place in

460
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 3>that because that takes away from the focus on, you know,

461
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 3>all the things which.

462
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 4>I see as at a goal. Because you have to

463
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 4>work hard to be able to be emotional. Yeah, it is.

464
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Easier to close yourself off emotionally than to open up.

465
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but yes, but to me, that's a reward being

466
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 4>able to be comfortable enough to be emotional. So I

467
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 4>gotta take care of my ship first for me to

468
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 4>be satisfied, and therefore I could express my emotions.

469
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 3>But that feeling of satisfaction, like, that's another goal post

470
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>that you can keep pushing and pushing and pushing. It's like, okay,

471
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 3>I reached this, cool, but it'd be even better and

472
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I'd feel even greater if I had to work. If

473
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I were to reach this, and then you're there because

474
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, you work your butt off, as man usually do.

475
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>But then you're there and you're like, this is nice.

476
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I can go further, I can do more, so I'll

477
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:13.000
<v Speaker 3>be like fully satisfied if I reach not.

478
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 4>So that's that's I guess, always something new.

479
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Especially for man. It's an ever moving goalpost, like you're

480
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>never satisfied. It can always be bigger. You can always

481
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 3>be more, always be grander, always be better.

482
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 4>You know.

483
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like that's that's how bodybuilders blow up.

484
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 4>You know.

485
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 5>I can always be bigger.

486
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I can always be more symmetrical, you know, I can

487
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 3>always have like more roundings, fuller, more as triation, more this,

488
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 3>more that more. You know.

489
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 4>What, why can't have you been to the US once? Yeah?

490
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 4>When are you coming back? Good question?

491
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 3>It's expensive, it's expensive as hell. Well, I do want

492
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 3>to come back soon. I don't want to I want

493
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 3>to be with my with my wife very much. Well,

494
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, for sure Colorado, but there are other places

495
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 3>that I would like to to go as well, other

496
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 3>people that I would like to would like to visit,

497
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 3>so kind of like up and down the East coast.

498
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know a couple that I'd like to visit,

499
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 3>a couple on the West coast, of course, and probably

500
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 3>just like chill somewhere in the middle.

501
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I was in Mission No,

502
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 4>the whole the nonprofit and hopefully that was the whole thing,

503
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:35.400
<v Speaker 4>to do a retreat where people could meet you know, yeah, oh.

504
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that'd be cool. I mean, I with the tribe.

505
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I have a similar thing.

506
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 5>With the Grove of Odin.

507
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Of course, I don't really talk about it as much

508
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not as as involved as I would like

509
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>to be. I should involve myself more.

510
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Again, did you create that? It was?

511
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Is my idea. Yes, but it was someone else's former

512
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 3>moderator of mine and someone who I am kind of

513
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 3>reconnecting with again who really got the ball rolling and

514
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 3>filled in the paperwork.

515
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 4>And all of that.

516
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm still thinking of like kind of doing the

517
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 3>same thing here in the in the Netherlands too, like

518
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>at least have it registered and then like go go

519
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>from there. But yeah, I mean that's that I want

520
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 3>to do so much, but only so much hours in

521
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 3>the day and I have a lot to a lot

522
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 3>to work on, a lot to think about kids, evil acts,

523
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 3>my wife of course, family here that I that I

524
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I want to look out for and take care of

525
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 3>when they when.

526
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 4>They I always I always said, if if somebody talks

527
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 4>about about a partner, you're not saying what you did wrong.

528
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm.

529
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 4>So it's best to just say it didn't work out.

530
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, it.

531
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Boy, I'm not going to go into that.

532
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a different kind of podcast. You know,

533
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't don't feel like trauma bonding right now. Well, no,

534
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 3>that's yeah. So boy, you know, I think it's so

535
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 3>funny that, like in the your group the other day,

536
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 3>like you said, like you know, I'm not as well

537
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>spoken as the rest of you, but dude, you vastly

538
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>underestimate yourself, like you Well.

539
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 4>That's the aquarius, right. I don't see myself as being this.

540
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't see myself as other people see me.

541
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>So kind of like a permanent imposter syndrome.

542
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it came to always hiding myself who

543
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I am, I want to be judged and which I'm

544
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>to this day I'm being judged.

545
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 3>You know you'll always be judged. No, yes, not always,

546
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 3>not always openly. But like even as you know, even

547
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 3>so much as you know you're walking down the street,

548
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 3>people who do not know you are like complete strangers

549
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>who you know, just lay eyes upon you. They don't

550
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 3>even know you, they'll never see you again, but just

551
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, the way that you look, the way that

552
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 3>you that you act, the way that you you hold yourself,

553
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 3>they'll judge you for it. Like just based on that

554
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 3>split second.

555
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Sure, and I have my my own I don't want

556
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 4>to say judgments my own analysis of anybody also, but

557
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I think deep down, if you I do feel like

558
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 4>God is disappointed of how people act. Sometimes I don't

559
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 4>feel like it's me. It's like, man, it's like I'm

560
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 4>the eyes of God. You know. It's like, oh man,

561
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>that's why are people like this? It makes no sense.

562
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 5>It's time for another cataclysm.

563
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Might say no, like I would be too if I

564
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 3>were gone, And I'm just like looking down, looking, you know,

565
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>down on mankind.

566
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 5>And like, what the fuck are you?

567
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 1>No?

568
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 6>Stop it?

569
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 5>This is not No, that's not what I created that for.

570
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 5>What the fuck are you doing?

571
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, okay, because it's time for another flood.

572
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 6>There he goes, need to start over again. I fucked

573
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 6>up again, apparently, Jesus. Yes, uh flo the volcano everything

574
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 6>like it's new game.

575
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, start from the beginning. It's always yeah, okay,

576
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Like maybe that's why I like the beginning back.

577
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>To square one, make make everyone rethink everything they ever did.

578
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 3>It's like, was it really worth it?

579
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, look at where we are now.

580
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's what led me to the procreation thing. I

581
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 4>don't imagine there were no humans and and it's funny

582
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 4>because I sent this in the group chat, like I

583
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 4>was playing a Viada game and it goes to this

584
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 4>new world and then I look, it's so peaceful, greenery, plants,

585
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 4>animals that oh there's no humans. So that's why I said,

586
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 4>maybe we're not. Once our soul well relieves the body,

587
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 4>they're happy where whatever they are.

588
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 5>No, that's uh, I mean, that's that's uh I.

589
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 4>I get it.

590
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean we saw that like during during the COVID

591
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 3>years when you know, like no cars out on the streets,

592
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 3>everyone was working from home and whatever. Nature started to

593
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 3>fucking flourish again because we didn't you know, fucking racket

594
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 3>as much as we did. And now everything is back

595
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to normal whatever normal. Maybe maybe it's the new normal.

596
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Who knows. And you know, like we're slowly but surely

597
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 3>going back to square fucking one. And it's like, guys,

598
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 3>we're supposed to learn from events like this, you know,

599
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's why a whole lot of people are still

600
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 3>working from home because they're like, well, I mean I

601
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>did it for like two three years straight. Why would

602
00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I go back to the office, Like clearly it's not necessary.

603
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they're still working and they're not enjoying nature.

604
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah no.

605
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 5>But the see, that's the thing.

606
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 3>When you're working from home in your own space, like

607
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 3>you can truly do whatever you want, Like it saves

608
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you hours on the commute, you know. Like for example,

609
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>the job that I have now delivering groceries, I'll be

610
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, doing security again by the end of this month,

611
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 3>somebody in the march. But you know, it's like an

612
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 3>hour and a half commute like to and back. So

613
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 3>if I could like just do this, you know, like podcasting,

614
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 3>writing and whatever, have a creative job that I can

615
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>do from this very desk, that already would save me

616
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 3>three hours in a day for just the commute, okay,

617
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.679
<v Speaker 3>and those three hours, I mean I could in for

618
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 3>another three hours. I could go to the gym for

619
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>those three hours, I could take a walk, I could

620
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 3>take a stroll just through town and like still have

621
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 3>an hour and a half two hours left. So it

622
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 3>would save me money on the commute because I'm still

623
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>paying for it, you know. Taking public transport it's pretty

624
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 3>good here in the Netherlands, not fantastic, but you.

625
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Know, I'm into trans different kind of public tea public transportation.

626
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 4>I take public transportation like I take a bout myself.

627
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I think public transportation. So yeah, I enjoy and I

628
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>enjoy trans.

629
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 6>Okay, cab it okay?

630
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, But like say me on money, it saves

631
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 3>me on time, you know, it is money every week

632
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 3>every day that I am able to save. It is

633
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 3>time every day that I am able to save. So like,

634
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 3>if there are so many people who you know, like

635
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 3>can work from home, like just do zoom meetings and

636
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>filing papers and reports and from them whatever, just shit

637
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 3>that you can do from your computer, why would you

638
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>go back to the office. Why would you sit in

639
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 3>traffic for two fucking hours too? And back pay for gas?

640
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Pay for this, pay for that, you know.

641
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, that's why I don't drive. Why we have

642
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 4>a car, but I don't drive it because I'm like,

643
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 4>why am I paying like four hundred bucks a month

644
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 4>for the stupid for this car spending gas insurance, which

645
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 4>that when I discovered how the world runs, like this

646
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 4>is a big ass scam. Yeah, paying monthly for a

647
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 4>car that if I do get to an accident, if

648
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.519
<v Speaker 4>I choose to go through the insurance route, it's going

649
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 4>to go up in premium, so might as well put

650
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 4>out of pocket, which is like the pizza purpose of

651
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 4>paying for insurance. Yeah, so even then I'm like, actually,

652
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm like I was, I was even thinking of creating

653
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 4>my insurance company and be look, it's not going to

654
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 4>cover much. But because you have to have insurance, pay

655
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 4>like twenty twenty five bucks a month, but it doesn't

656
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 4>cover you, you're on your own, like be transparrent with people.

657
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 4>That's when I was like, this is how you connect

658
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 4>with people through good deeds, I think.

659
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 3>But that's that's the best that you can do. Like

660
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>your mindset's reading the right mindset, Like the whole fucking

661
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.880
<v Speaker 3>system is corrupt. Okay, I'll do it myself. Yes, And

662
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>that's what so many other people are doing. What's what

663
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 3>so many other people are thinking, Like they have a

664
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 3>nine to five mind nubbing, soul killing job, and you

665
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 3>know they have like a psyche like this for example,

666
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, YouTube content creation, whatever it is. I've seen

667
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 3>many video creators. The most recent one that I can

668
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 3>think of is Jess up the Shire. She does like

669
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 3>a lot of Luther Rings themed stuff, like her whole

670
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 3>channel is based on North Rings and some Real again

671
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 3>and jrr jr rt Holkien and she had a she

672
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 3>had a job like aside from like her channel, and

673
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 3>then she I don't know, like she got sick or

674
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 3>like she took like a couple of weeks of work

675
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 3>or something and decided to like focus a full time

676
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 3>on her channel. And she blew up, you know, like

677
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 3>she's now at Oh god, I think like one hundred

678
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 3>and fifty thousand, I don't know some subscribers. You know,

679
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.760
<v Speaker 3>she's getting regular sponsorship deals and whatever. So hey, I

680
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 3>do think.

681
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure, but you know, looking.

682
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 3>At the out of content that she is putting out now,

683
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I think she made it.

684
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Into her full time job, which is still a.

685
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Lot of work, you know. Like, yes, I have often

686
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 3>said more recently so that you know, podcasting is my

687
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 3>unpaid full time job, Like I may not always be recording,

688
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 3>but I am so often doing.

689
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 5>Something, you know, looking for guests, look for guests.

690
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Doing promo swaps, editing, uploading, you know, promoting, looking for sponsors.

691
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a whole lot of fucking work, and I am

692
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 3>not getting paid for it in the slightest.

693
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:41.719
<v Speaker 4>Why did you start podcasting from the beginning and what

694
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 4>was it the purpose.

695
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I've always needed a creative outlet, something that, especially something

696
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that I have control over, because I don't do well

697
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 3>working for others, strong minded, strong willed, So like whenever

698
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 3>I see things that I'm like, this could be better,

699
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell them. It's also the Dutch directness on the

700
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 3>work of my favor. Not always it's like, hey, have

701
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you considered doing it that way?

702
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 5>And it all started.

703
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 3>It's funny, like as with so many things, it started

704
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>during the COVID years, Like I lost my job. I

705
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 3>was a I was a freelance cook. All restaurants closed,

706
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 3>so I was out of a job, out of a

707
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 3>salary because you know, freelance, no no work, no pay.

708
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And I started doing deliveries because you know, like everything

709
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 3>started to be delivery based. And at a certain point,

710
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 3>like I heard, I listened to the same playlist, like

711
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>music playlists every day, and at a certain point, I'm like, okay,

712
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I've heard my whole playlist like ten

713
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 3>times today. Already I need something else. And like radio,

714
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 3>it really was my thing I knew of, so like

715
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 3>I kind of started listening to some some podcasts. I

716
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 3>found out that there were podcasts to do with, you know,

717
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 3>Heathen Ree and the occults. It really started for me

718
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 3>with my Third Eye and the occult rejects, and it's

719
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 3>funny like now I can kind of count myself among

720
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 3>those same circles, which is still weird to me. And

721
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I had my first guest spot on my Third Eye

722
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 3>about Tartaria, like the whole Tartaria thing that's always been

723
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 3>like one of my favorite rabbit holes. I had like

724
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 3>my laptop that you see in the background, no headphones,

725
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 3>no mic, so just laptop mike horrendous of course, laptop

726
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>cam horrendous, of course.

727
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Humble beginnings.

728
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 4>And I liked that.

729
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I liked I liked doing that, so you know, I

730
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 3>came on for a second time and I was like, Yo,

731
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 3>this is fun. I'm gonna do this myself because why not.

732
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have food control over it. It's creative endeavor.

733
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I can talk about shit that I like. So I'm

734
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>just gonna do it. And I've been doing it now

735
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>for I want to say, two coming up on three years,

736
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and I am fucking dedicated. You know, it's sometimes too dedicated,

737
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 3>doing six shows in a weekend.

738
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 4>No it shows. I could I see that right away.

739
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 4>You're a hard worker, you could tell.

740
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I mean I actually enjoy I actually enjoy this.

741
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 5>I actually enjoy this.

742
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna keep grinding until like I get I

743
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 3>get paid, and then I'm just gonna keep grinding till

744
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 3>it pays enough.

745
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 5>And then I'll, you know, I'll brunch.

746
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Out do other things, Sonny, while you were talking, because

747
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 4>I've learned to trust my mind, what thoughts come to

748
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.280
<v Speaker 4>my mind. I think that's how religion started, right, that's

749
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>we're one. But then there's no let's let me do

750
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 4>it my way like a pot like even me. That's

751
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 4>how I created my podcast and like these people replating

752
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 4>the same thing, I'm having different thoughts. Let me do

753
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.199
<v Speaker 4>my own. And now there's so many podcasts. There's so

754
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 4>many podcasts. Yeah, like with them may think of religion,

755
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 4>there's different branches. Yeah, okay, so I think we have

756
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 4>to refocus and oh, there you go. That's what evolution is,

757
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.559
<v Speaker 4>the real evolution, your evolution. You're your thought right, your

758
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.840
<v Speaker 4>thought process. Because I'm getting maybe you're you just want

759
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 4>to do your own because that's how I started my own.

760
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to. It was like a journal for me

761
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 4>for my growth. Yeah, just talking. That's so I don't

762
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 4>have thirty four thirty five episodes. I'm like, I don't.

763
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking a pause, right because and actually you're no,

764
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 4>you're the second one I've done since probably in one.

765
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.239
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, anyways, I think that's what was it going. Yeah,

766
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe that's for so many religions, so many

767
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>branches even now, I mean, doing a nonprofit and like

768
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 4>when there's so many already, why can't join them? But

769
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 4>because is it a trust thing? Or well, because you

770
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 4>want to create your own group you trust.

771
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 3>And be and like be in control of it. Because

772
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 3>I think that is especially in these more modern times,

773
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 3>let's say the last I want to say, like the

774
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 3>last fifteen twenty years or so, like we've really seen that,

775
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, the people who are in power or you know,

776
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 3>with perceived power at least can't trust them or you know,

777
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 3>like they say they're they're.

778
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 5>Doing one thing because oh, you know, like bad people there.

779
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 3>But then it's like no, they were actually doing it

780
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 3>for a whole other reason and they just they needed escapegoat,

781
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 3>so they made escapegoat. So I'm just gonna do it myself.

782
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's also why I started the drive

783
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.679
<v Speaker 3>of the Ground Pagans. I've been in so many like

784
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 3>pagan groups, pagan focused groups, Heathen Viking whatever, and you know,

785
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 3>always been well received, but it always went down the

786
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 3>drink for some reason, especially when ego came into play,

787
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, when it stopped being about the group and

788
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 3>started being about one person or you know.

789
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 5>Like a couple of people in particular.

790
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 3>Every time the downfall, and I was sick and tired

791
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 3>of like, Okay, I'll find a new group, I guess,

792
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 3>and I hope that they don't fucking falter. I got

793
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 3>so tired of it together with you know, with my wife,

794
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 3>because wherever I go, she goes as well.

795
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 5>She is mean ship.

796
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 3>She may be four foot eleven, my god, damn, she's

797
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 3>a spitfire. Well I got so fucking tired of that

798
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 3>that I was just like, like, just like with the podcast,

799
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what, I'll fucking do it myself.

800
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 3>So I started the tribe with the Grand Pagans. We've

801
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 3>had her ups and downs. It hasn't always been easy,

802
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, We've had many many forms, if you will,

803
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>but it's always been about the same thing. It's always

804
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 3>been about coming together connecting with each other, learning from

805
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 3>each other, having you know, as many different archetypes characterists,

806
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 3>people from different spiritual paths and beliefs in one place

807
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 3>so that we may learn. That's what the tribe was about.

808
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to create a open space for everyone to

809
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 3>just come together and like just have two basic basic rules,

810
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 3>like there are no taboos aside from the you know,

811
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 3>like actual horrendous stuff, you know, like the pddy kind

812
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 3>of stuff, you know, the things that those upper echelon

813
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 3>people do.

814
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 5>But the sexual war bar and stuff, that's a no

815
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 5>fucking go.

816
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't know that's happening, you don't know, not openly

817
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 3>in the tribe. Let's let's just put it whatever you

818
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 3>do in your private life, I see, I don't. I

819
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 3>don't want to know, Like, don't tell me, do you.

820
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 5>That's fine, Just.

821
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Don't bring it into the tribe. That's all I'm asking.

822
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:38.719
<v Speaker 3>And just be respectful to each other. So respect no

823
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 3>sexual deviant ship, that's all I ask.

824
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't matter where you're coming from.

825
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're a I don't know, national socialist,

826
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 3>of paying in, a Christian, A a somewhere in between,

827
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a nothing at all. I don't care, You're most welcome

828
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 3>to join. You know, have an open discussion, have just

829
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>just have chat.

830
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't really care.

831
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Just have a good time.

832
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, don't get offended, don't take a person all,

833
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 4>but don't be an asshole exactly.

834
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 3>And you know, if there are you know, if you

835
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 3>have a personal beef with someone, then you know, do

836
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it in person exactly. It should be that hard, so

837
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 3>she said, dude, she likes your hard Actually, uh.

838
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 4>Nice, Okay, here we go. Yet, when was the last

839
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 4>time you I saw each other?

840
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.960
<v Speaker 3>During the COVID years, I managed to get myself across

841
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 3>the border. Being a pure blood still I never had

842
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 3>any inoculations. Still managed to get myself across the border.

843
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I had to have a certain shot, a certain prick

844
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>to be able to travel.

845
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 5>I see, I managed to do it without.

846
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh right, you just got a thoughts or just signed

847
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 4>the form or somewhere. Maybe good for you. I bought

848
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 4>a card telegram, yeah, the Mexican way.

849
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah pretty much.

850
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, and yeah so that was that was a

851
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 5>while ago.

852
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's it's just so expensive. I mean, luckily, like

853
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I have my driver's license now, so that saves a

854
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 3>whole lot of problems. I'm just having to uber everywhere.

855
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it's so annoying.

856
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 4>You mean the state.

857
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I'm I'm I'm Dutch. I'm used to

858
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 3>like just cycling everywhere or walking everywhere.

859
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 5>Nothing is walking.

860
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Distance the city.

861
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you know, like I was.

862
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I I was staying at Airbnb, and I was like,

863
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I like, i need to do some

864
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>groceries for myself. I'm just gonna walk like to to Walmart.

865
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 3>See what that's about.

866
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 5>It was a forty five minute walk two and back.

867
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, holy fucking should mine? I mean,

868
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I can do it, like I'm fit enough. But you know,

869
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 3>I was also like in Colorado, so you know, the

870
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>air is very very different there, Like it's a lot

871
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 3>higher up like the Netherlands were, you know, below sea level.

872
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.320
<v Speaker 5>It's thanks to a couple of good dykes and some.

873
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Pretty well engineer, pretty good engineers that we haven't sunk yet. Yes, yeah,

874
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean you can stick your finger in those two

875
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 3>yeah or two. But then to like be you know,

876
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 3>be higher up, be in a mountainous area. And she

877
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 3>was working at a like gym spat thing, like all

878
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 3>wellness thing.

879
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Back then.

880
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 3>So I had you know, access to U two gym equipment.

881
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I've always been like, especially since my twenties, I've been

882
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, a bit of a gym rat. So I

883
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 3>was like, hell, yeah, you know, fucking bench, put lots

884
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 3>of plates on, and I'm like, why is this so

885
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 3>much heavier all of a sudden because there's a less

886
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 3>oxygen in the air, and I was like, oh fuck.

887
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Went on the assault bike, you know, and it's a

888
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 3>good warmup, like go.

889
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Go, go go.

890
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 3>I was blowing the fuck up afterwards, and I'm like, whoa,

891
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 3>this is doing a number on me. My lungs were

892
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 3>burning and what And I was like, holy shit, I

893
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 3>have never felt this before.

894
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 4>It was.

895
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>A good month. Okay, Yeah, stayed a lot longer than

896
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to. I was fucking broke afterwards, but

897
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I just I didn't want to leave bug. You know,

898
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 3>still responsibilities here. Got two kids, so you know, and

899
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 3>they do like it when when daddy's home, you know.

900
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh so, yeah, there was it was.

901
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 5>It was a good time.

902
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I but I wish I I could have stayed longer.

903
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 3>But she is making her way over here to Europe,

904
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, filling in all the all the necessary papers,

905
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 3>doing all the necessary things because she really wants to

906
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 3>leave the US.

907
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 4>And I do not blame her, that's all you make

908
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 4>of it.

909
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I guess anywhere you go, sure, but like

910
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 3>in her position, in her situation, it's better to it's

911
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 3>better to be here. It's better to be here, and

912
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 3>you're better to be here in the Netherlands. It's it's

913
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 3>not just you know, because her husband me actually lives

914
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 3>here in young entire family in law and everyone who

915
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 3>loves her, but also like from a medical standpoint, like

916
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 3>care and just you know, job wise and health wise

917
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 3>and everything. And you know, her son, he is on

918
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 3>the the autism spectrum. He's a good kid. He's a

919
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 3>bright kid, for sure, but you know, he would just

920
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 3>be so much better off here than in the States.

921
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 3>And like that's just from a healthcare perspective, because with

922
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 3>the whole like insurance and health insurance stuff, Like my

923
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 3>wife can only work like a max of twenty hours

924
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.480
<v Speaker 3>a week because otherwise, you know, they're taking her health

925
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 3>care away and she needs, you know, a little.

926
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 5>Little extra because of her son.

927
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 3>And she's still like she's working. She is on what

928
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 3>is it Medicaid and food stamps and still struggling, so

929
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, like welcome to America everyone, So yeah for

930
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 3>her there, So there are a lot of valid reasons

931
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 3>to to move out, and she and her mother as

932
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.480
<v Speaker 3>well would be much better off here, or at the

933
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 3>very least here in Europe.

934
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 4>One thing about autism, to correlate that with planets because

935
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 4>they're from a different planet, right, but you have to

936
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 4>go to their world to understand them.

937
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean.

938
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 3>That is how it's often described, like they you know,

939
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.639
<v Speaker 3>they live in their own, their own world, and.

940
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.079
<v Speaker 4>I think people should understand it that way, like, oh,

941
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 4>this is what an alien is. You know.

942
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:42.199
<v Speaker 5>People should do a lot of things.

943
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's okay. That was my purpose of the podcast too,

944
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Like I want people to I've said it before, to

945
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 4>be the word don't be an example for you what

946
00:56:52.599 --> 00:57:00.320
<v Speaker 4>you're saying. Don't just say that I don't, especially religious people,

947
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 4>and you have to tell people that you want to, yeah,

948
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 4>practice what you preach and you want people to follow

949
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 4>you or follow the word of Christ or whatever it be.

950
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 5>The word exactly.

951
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 4>You're saying. It doesn't make it so don't you have

952
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 4>to attract people to ask you what are you doing? Then?

953
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Why are you so happy. Why are you so calmed

954
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 4>when that happens. You are God, you know, you are

955
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 4>the example. You are the Jesus whatever you want to

956
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 4>call yourself. Don't tell me, and don't tell me judge me,

957
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 4>don't tell me what I should be.

958
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:41.679
<v Speaker 3>Doing, right, I mean, as someone who follows the pagan path,

959
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 3>follows the old gods, I've heard so many times like

960
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 3>your gods are demons, your gods are false gods. You know, like,

961
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 3>convert now and no embrace Jesus or you'll burn in hell.

962
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, yeah, that'll do it, you know, tell

963
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 3>me basically tell me the the ah old convert or die.

964
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Fine, I guess I'll die like the rest of the world.

965
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, just you know, telling me what will

966
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 3>happen if I don't convert. It's not going to do

967
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 3>it for me, you know, like you're not gonna. I'm sorry,

968
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm not one of those pagans that you can scare

969
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 3>into conversion. You know, show me the benefits, you know, oh,

970
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know you'll receive this and that and

971
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 3>you know your life will just be so much grander. Okay,

972
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 3>show me, no, no, no, believe me, bro, trust me, Bro,

973
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 3>you know trust God.

974
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Why show me?

975
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:41.280
<v Speaker 5>Why don't tell me?

976
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Why show me why?

977
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. It's between you and God. If

978
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 4>somebody needs to tell you they're not with God.

979
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 3>No, exactly, if you have to explain it to someone, yeah,

980
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you have to explain why it's so good, then.

981
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:04.840
<v Speaker 4>You know people are not seeing it exactly.

982
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Friends from a moment.

983
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:07.800
<v Speaker 5>But we're good.

984
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:08.280
<v Speaker 3>We're good.

985
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I need to I need to get a

986
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 5>new computer. It's expensive anyway.

987
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 3>It's it's good that you're you're actually thinking the way

988
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 3>you should talk to. One of my moderators even know,

989
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I forget her name. That's so bad. Yeah, I'm so bad.

990
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 4>They're the worst.

991
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 5>No, but no, why can I think of her freaking name?

992
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 3>She is Soriyah.

993
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:39.679
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Soraya she is.

994
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 3>She's amazing, and she is like another one of those,

995
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 3>another one of those. They seem to be very limited

996
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 3>in number, but a Christian that doesn't judge, you know,

997
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and like she she lets people be whoever they want

998
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.239
<v Speaker 3>to be, you know, she follows the truth. Like, yeah, yes,

999
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 3>they're so like they're very few far between, unfortunately, And

1000
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 3>the great thing is that she's like she's moderator of

1001
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 3>a freaking pagan tribe, of a pagan group, and she's

1002
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 3>a Christian herself. But that's because you know, she she

1003
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:20.639
<v Speaker 3>sees the like the value for us.

1004
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 5>It's not a path for her.

1005
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 3>And yes, of course she would much prefer we were Christian,

1006
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, but you know, she won't condemn us for

1007
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 3>being pagan. She doesn't think less of us because we're

1008
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:42.840
<v Speaker 3>not Christian. It's like, yeah, I mean, I prefer it,

1009
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:48.480
<v Speaker 3>but you know you're good people, so sure, And I

1010
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.840
<v Speaker 3>know I mean Todd Dean Blackwell, he's he's the saying like, yeah,

1011
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, he'd prefer it if I were Christian, but

1012
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 3>you know he sees, you know, he sees I'm a

1013
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 3>good guy. So you know, he'll come on and talk

1014
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.639
<v Speaker 3>about things and all of that. He'll converse with me

1015
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 3>and not try to convert me.

1016
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:11.639
<v Speaker 5>And I've had like another one on.

1017
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 3>The podcast who was more at hardcore, like Pamela Walk.

1018
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 3>She has a very interesting story. But she was so

1019
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 3>confused because I said to her, like, I see the

1020
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 3>value in the teachings. I acknowledge the teachings. I acknowledge

1021
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.079
<v Speaker 3>that in the Bible there is truth to be found.

1022
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.400
<v Speaker 3>At the very least, you know, I'm very open to that.

1023
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I've learned a lot over the years.

1024
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 5>And she was kind of like I could see her thinking.

1025
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Then, why aren't you Christian? I was like, well, because

1026
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 3>that's not the path for me. That's not what I

1027
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 3>resonate with. I resonate with the old gods of Europe.

1028
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, those are the gods of my ancestors. That's

1029
01:01:57.960 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the culture of my ancestors.

1030
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 4>So that's and maybe she should make the effort to

1031
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.920
<v Speaker 4>get to know your I mean, she.

1032
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Did ask about it, you know, she tried to. I mean,

1033
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if she tried to understand it, but

1034
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 3>at the very least, you know, she she asked about it,

1035
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:18.519
<v Speaker 3>like she was like, okay, but then like, what do

1036
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 3>you believe? What are your gods? What is your Bible? Well,

1037
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:25.000
<v Speaker 3>we don't have a Bible. What do you mean, well,

1038
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:28.000
<v Speaker 3>we don't have any religious texts? Then who tells you

1039
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 3>what you should and shouldn't do?

1040
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I wrote it like Christians, what are Christians allowed to think?

1041
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 4>Because they just go based on those texts. I'm like, wow,

1042
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 4>that's that's weird. Yeah. So that's when I was reading

1043
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 4>the Bible I compared it to the government.

1044
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, telling you what you can't and what

1045
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 3>you can and can do, what you can and can't think,

1046
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:52.079
<v Speaker 3>how you're supposed to think, how you're supposed to.

1047
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Act, and how about God brought plagues and all these

1048
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:57.880
<v Speaker 4>things in the way. This is COVID again. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>happening since the Bible and Salon.

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01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, i'm's cyclical. It's not it's not a

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01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 3>trade line. It's cyclical. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know Josh Monday, he's a Christian. He's a Christian

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01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.840
<v Speaker 4>podcast and conspiracy podcasts. He lives not too part from me.

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01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I think it's gonna come next week. But yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 4>like a he's a true Christian and I love him.

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01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:21.719
<v Speaker 4>He's you know, he doesn't of course he be first

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01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 4>if I were a Christian, but you know, my lifestyle

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01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.119
<v Speaker 4>whatever I am, doesn't allow me. But we're you know,

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01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 4>we're friends, and I'm like, yeah, this is a Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>He he loves people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, that's what.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's he is practice. He is being the word.

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<v Speaker 4>He's he has a nice energy about him. Anybody loves him.

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01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:46.400
<v Speaker 4>He has a nice smile. He's he's a piece.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, that makes it a lot easier

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01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 3>to like, first of all, talk to people if they're

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01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 3>just nice and you know, i'd say especially for for

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01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the seekers and those who are you know, maybe still

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01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 3>a bit lost. It makes it a lot easier for

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01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.400
<v Speaker 3>them to be like hey, you know, like as you said, like, hey,

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01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.039
<v Speaker 3>he's a nice guy. He has a good energy around him,

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01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, he's vibing in all the right ways.

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<v Speaker 3>How what like, what's what's his story? What's his deal?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, CHRISTI amony and love and this and that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, that sounds good. I would like to

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01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.880
<v Speaker 3>be that too, you know, if I can then like

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<v Speaker 3>Crow to be like you yeah exactly, you know, like

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01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 3>be the example. Don't just tell people like, oh you

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01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 3>should do this, Okay, cool, I should do a lot

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01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 3>of things and I shouldn't do a lot of things

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01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.239
<v Speaker 3>that I still do. So fucking what.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, only God can judge me, but I will too.

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01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh so that makes you God? Oh no, no, no, no,

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01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm not God. But I thought only God could judge me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, but you know, there we.

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01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Go, and you know how they say, where our worst critic,

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01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 4>we're judging ourselves. Therefore, we are God.

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01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, nice, Yeah, I mean that's kind of you know,

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01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 3>like the whole going back to the like diy thing

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01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.679
<v Speaker 3>like I'll do with myself because of like different experiences.

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01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean that that capsulates like pretty much everything. Like

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01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 3>that's what a lot of people say, like we are sores.

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01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:26.199
<v Speaker 3>We are God experiencing itself. You know, it's kind of

1094
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 3>like a diamond, and we're all the different facets of

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01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 3>source of God. You know, he is not just like yeah,

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01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 3>it's for us at least, it's the human experience. We're

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01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 3>both human. I appreciate more or less, yes, but you know,

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01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 3>like you live a whole different life than I do,

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01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:51.400
<v Speaker 3>so your experiences are a lot different than mine. You know,

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01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:54.119
<v Speaker 3>we think about the same things a lot. We have

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01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.239
<v Speaker 3>opinions that maybe are the same or overlap or thoughts

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01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 3>that we you know, we both think. We're still two

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01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 3>very very different people, so we have different experiences, learn

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01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 3>different things from that, and you know, for example, by

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01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the medium of podcasting, we can share those experiences, learn

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01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 3>from each other so that we you know, may understand

1107
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.079
<v Speaker 3>what you're going through. You understand kind of what I'm

1108
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, what I'm doing, what I'm going through, which

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01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:27.079
<v Speaker 3>is yes, it's a it's a beautiful it's a beautiful connection.

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01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.519
<v Speaker 4>And the process could be different, but the result is

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01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 4>the same. It's the same results. Well, we have different

1112
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 4>thought to metas to that conclusion. So I don't think

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01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:44.920
<v Speaker 4>it's it's even like a homeless person could teach me something. Yeah,

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01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.920
<v Speaker 4>for sure, I'm gonna and again that's God putting these

1115
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 4>things on me, like I was meant to see this. Okay,

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01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 4>thank you. So be more aware of your surroundings, more

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01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:57.079
<v Speaker 4>aware of the signs signed.

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01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you've got to working, have to go, man, gotta

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01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 3>pluck in, do your job, go home.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Friday, though, so oh I'm gonna to go shoot

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01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:16.440
<v Speaker 4>some guns after work.

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01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 3>That's typical American of course. Good.

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01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:23.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and I've never done it, so really.

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01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, have fun after work, and good

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01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:30.159
<v Speaker 3>luck with you know, getting getting through the day. Just

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01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.000
<v Speaker 3>keep in mind guns after work, release after work, you know,

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01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe shoot your gun after work.

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01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I did it before.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you're you're you're a viral man.

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01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.119
<v Speaker 5>You can like you you're not that old. Yeah you

1131
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 5>can still do it twice a day?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah nice? Yeah, Okay, On that note, okay, thank you

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01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no problem, man, real quick work. And where

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01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 3>can the people find you?

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01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Know?

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01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but your stuff?

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01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm in Spotify Life is a Dream that that's an

1139
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:14.559
<v Speaker 4>awakening podcast. You could even attach my email if you'll

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01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 4>want to reach me. Nobody has actually, which is I

1141
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:19.840
<v Speaker 4>don't sign but yeah, that's where you can find me

1142
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:20.720
<v Speaker 4>on Spotify.

1143
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you for coming on.

1144
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:29.920
<v Speaker 3>How can you register yourself? Miltonious Aurelius.

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01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I was given that name, so I'm like, okay, I'll

1146
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:34.279
<v Speaker 4>use it.

1147
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's your actual name?

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01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:37.760
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, I'm saying someone else.

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01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.279
<v Speaker 6>I'd say.

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01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's that's pretty fun.

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01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.359
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty fucking epic. If that works, be your actual name.

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01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 5>That was really cool.

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01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh but my last name, oh compo. My it was

1154
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.760
<v Speaker 4>just accompole without the apostrophe. My English teacher put the apostrophe,

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01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.079
<v Speaker 4>so she made me Irish. That's cool.

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01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 3>If you're on the ary Irish. Yes, nice, nice, Well, yeah,

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01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.279
<v Speaker 3>thank you very much for coming on. Man. I'll make

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01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.560
<v Speaker 3>sure you, you know, put all your your links in

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01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the description box down below. Of course, I'll make sure

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01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 3>that on both the audio and video platforms they are there.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, thanks everyone for watching. Thanks everyone for listening.

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01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 3>This has been pretty free flowing, you know, like kind

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01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.039
<v Speaker 3>of you know, we went off the deep ends pretty

1164
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 3>pretty quick actually, you know, as as we do.

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01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, no, no shallow, go deep or just don't

1166
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 5>don't do it.

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01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:45.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what she said. And that's actually not what she said.

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01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 4>It's gotta get you too, and that just me.

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01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.439
<v Speaker 3>She already did today. She already broke me. But you

1170
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 3>know that's that's that's fine. I still love her.

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01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:01.600
<v Speaker 4>H Yeah.

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01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.920
<v Speaker 3>If you liked what you sound like what you heard,

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01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:09.439
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<v Speaker 3>all for now. Thank you again for watching. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>again for listening, Milton, thank you for coming on. Enjoy work,

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01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 3>enjoy the guns, enjoy your gun.

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<v Speaker 4>I score it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we'll keep in touch and we'll have to we'll

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<v Speaker 5>have to do this again.

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<v Speaker 3>Som so be well everyone, I'll say next time.

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<v Speaker 7>See this was yet another amazing episode of the Greyhorn

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