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<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham, The Great American. This Laius Friday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in the tri State, warm and beautiful, the country concerts,

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<v Speaker 1>the night with Jason Albeen with my big Green tractor.

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<v Speaker 1>Reds Baseball kicks off about six ten to night with

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<v Speaker 1>the Brew Crew. This might be the last gasp. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the patient has a heartbeat, but out a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the paddles ready. If they can sweep the Brew Crew,

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<v Speaker 1>then come back home. Who knows what happens, But they're

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<v Speaker 1>still in last place. But that's a different issue, Joony,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I now is on balances that Leland vetterert

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<v Speaker 1>seeing every Monday through Friday on News Nation, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And Leland Viverdert. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Leland. First of all, the polling seems to indicate

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak that the race is tied between Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris and Donald Trump. The last five or six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>beginning June the twenty seventh, have been absolutely unbelievable, and

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<v Speaker 1>right now she's running a shadow campaign in which she

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<v Speaker 1>reads from the teleprompter, does about a thirty eight second

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<v Speaker 1>interview with some reporter off to the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>plane with the engines running, then gets back on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the big question. I may ask you the

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<v Speaker 1>big question early on Leland, are you ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>big question?

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<v Speaker 2>Always?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can she for the next I don't know, eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight days do this and nothing else? Like Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden did in twenty twenty, stay in the basement. She

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<v Speaker 1>has the great debate I guess on ABC on I

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<v Speaker 1>think September tenth, and whoever wins that debate, that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the debates. Whoever wins, that's it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>already done it. So can she do what she's done

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<v Speaker 1>successfully for the next eighty five to ninety days? Yay

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<v Speaker 1>or nay?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know they say in this financial markets that

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<v Speaker 3>past performance is not indicative of future results. I would

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<v Speaker 3>argue in politics that if if it's working, why do

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<v Speaker 3>anything different? And it is working for her in so far.

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<v Speaker 3>The media at all has been compliant in not beating

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<v Speaker 3>the drum of your in the basement, And you rightly

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out this is a figure de basement rather than

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<v Speaker 3>the literal basement that Joe Biden was in. But you

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<v Speaker 3>rightly point out that it worked for Joe Biden in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, and it is currently working for Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the excuse that Joe Biden had in twenty twenty, well,

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<v Speaker 1>fear COVID and I got to wear my mask and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go in public. He had like drive in

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater deals. It kind of worked in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just suspicious of the idea that even the

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<v Speaker 1>so called mainstream media, of which you might be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of in a sense, News Nation is doing great

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<v Speaker 1>about the only cable channel increasing in ratings, that somehow

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<v Speaker 1>you and the mainstream media will allow her even after

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<v Speaker 1>September the tenth, for like two months or thereafter, with

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<v Speaker 1>voting taking place, will allow her not to confront the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious differences between things she's said in the past and

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<v Speaker 1>things she's not saying today. And my answer would be yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that the media, the mainstream media, is so committed to

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<v Speaker 1>her victory and so committed to the absolute defeat of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump that they will permit this as they would

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<v Speaker 1>permit with no other am I correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to argue with your logic. The hatred of Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump by a large partition portion, I think you can

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<v Speaker 3>call it the legacy media or the advocacy media, at

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<v Speaker 3>least some the left is certainly palpable.

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<v Speaker 2>And you bring up a great point, which is about

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<v Speaker 2>the policy issues of Donald Trump versus Kamala Harrison, specifically

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<v Speaker 2>the big issues with.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris and policies. Okay, does she still believe okay,

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<v Speaker 3>in ending of filibuster for the Green New Deal? We

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<v Speaker 3>are led to believe. We are led to believe that

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<v Speaker 3>she does not, but she won't come out and say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Does she still believe in Medicare for all, single payer healthcare,

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<v Speaker 3>taking away private insurance? Again, we don't know where is

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<v Speaker 3>she on fracking right, Well, she wanted to end fracking.

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<v Speaker 3>Does she still want to enfracking? She's not saying on

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<v Speaker 3>the stumps saying that, but she's not saying anything different.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are the real issues. But when you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>and therefore there are people tuning in to watch her

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<v Speaker 3>and be absorbed by freedom and joy, then there's not

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<v Speaker 3>much incentive by the media so far to call that

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<v Speaker 1>The two big issues in the country according to polling,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you and I would agree, are inflation and

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration not legal immigration. We admit legally one million

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<v Speaker 1>people every year, more people legally admitted to all the

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<v Speaker 1>countries in the world put together legally, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>admit anywhere between five and ten million illegally. And inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>and she and her stump speech, she says we have

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the rise of inflation. On immigration, she says

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<v Speaker 1>basically that we're a nation of immigrants. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand where each of us came from without giving us

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<v Speaker 1>any policy prescriptions. Can she walk a fine line on

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<v Speaker 1>inflation when the governmental policies of Biden Harris have caused

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<v Speaker 1>the inflation. When Trump left office, the inflation rate was

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<v Speaker 1>one point four percent. About a year and a half

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<v Speaker 1>later it was nine percent. Now hovers between three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half to four and a half percent. Can she

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<v Speaker 1>walk the fine line and do happy talk on inflation

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<v Speaker 1>when the Inflation and Reduction Act misnamed which caused inflation increase.

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<v Speaker 1>And on immigration, she's whether you used the word czar

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<v Speaker 1>or not. She was in charge of the southern border,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the adoring crowds that show up, which I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day there was a disaster in one of

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<v Speaker 1>her rallies in which the adherents who came to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to her to not get home for hours and hours

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<v Speaker 1>and hours. There was a breakdown of transportation, that they

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<v Speaker 1>were dehydrated, etc. But it's amazing to me that on

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<v Speaker 1>the issues of inflation and immigration, Trump is like a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five to thirty five percent lead over Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>and still the polls seemingly at this point have them tied.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that good or bad for the Trumpster? Good or

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<v Speaker 1>bad for Harris?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you've got the momentum which Harris has, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always good for you. You always want to have the

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<v Speaker 3>big mo that's number one. Number two. You rightly point

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<v Speaker 3>out that Kamala Harris has managed to do something in

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks that Joe Biden couldn't do in three years,

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<v Speaker 3>which is divorce herself from the Biden Harris legacy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of the things that people didn't like about

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden and all the policies people didn't like, she

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<v Speaker 3>somehow has completely disassociated herself with And you listen to

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<v Speaker 3>her thumb speech and there's an ad that she just

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<v Speaker 3>Wardotes dot Com to subscribe for free. Her new ad

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<v Speaker 3>talks about being in the the middle class and on

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<v Speaker 3>day one she is going to work for the middle

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<v Speaker 3>class and she's going to work to lower the costs

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<v Speaker 3>of how the lower the cost of housing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what are you going to this?

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<v Speaker 3>I think would be the fair question. What are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to do differently to lower the cost of housing?

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe Biden has been doing to lower the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of housing for the past three years that have caused

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<v Speaker 3>the house of cost of housing to go up? What

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<v Speaker 3>are you going to do differently?

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<v Speaker 1>Her solution is rent rent controls? What about she says, rent?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't rent controls cause housing rents to go up, because

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<v Speaker 1>in California the prescription is rent controls. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>three percent a year or less. And if the prescription

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<v Speaker 1>for housing difficulties are rent controls, isn't it clear? By

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<v Speaker 1>Milton Friedman long passed away, but one of my economic

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<v Speaker 1>heroes that rent controls used by socialists will eventually cause

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<v Speaker 1>fewer apartments to be built, fewer houses to be built.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not much of a profit in it. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>rent controls calls rents to go up? Does she understand that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Come on, Bill, you know the problem with socialism

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<v Speaker 3>it's just never been tried in its perfect model. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, come on, come on? Was to be fair?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't say either she doesn't know or doesn't believe it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because Tim Walls, who is the first and only executive

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<v Speaker 3>decisions she has made, says that one man's socialism is

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<v Speaker 3>just another man's word for neighborly this Yeah, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris has shown and said where she stands on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these issues. And the fact that Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is ahead on the issues. When you pull the

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<v Speaker 3>issues immigration, inflation, crime, the fact that Trump is ahead

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<v Speaker 3>by double digits on those but yet is pulling neck

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<v Speaker 3>and neck, one might say, okay, that is that is

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<v Speaker 3>that we should require some soul searching by Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Not because there is something that the polls are that

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<v Speaker 3>the American pop public likes him on the issues and

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like him enough to vote for him. That might,

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<v Speaker 3>under normal circumstances, require a reset. To use a friendly

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<v Speaker 3>term these days, turn phrase. In a campaign, he tried

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<v Speaker 3>that yesterday, I guess to dismal effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and in fact, on the economy, on jobs, on inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>on immigration, Trump isn't beating her by a couple percentage points.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like two to one, not even close. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a person, but he's way up on It's way up

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<v Speaker 1>on those issues with her double digits trouble digits. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Okay, maybe he'll look at himself and say,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's my peccadillo, is my personality.

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<v Speaker 3>You've known him for a long You've known him for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. Have you ever known Donald Trump to

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<v Speaker 3>look at himself and go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no, not yet, not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean seventy eight, I'll give you the two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and eight line. There's always hope.

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<v Speaker 1>This, you know, there's hope and change maybe, but it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened yet. Now let's talk for a moment about

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Tim Walls versus JD. Vance, And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>military thing is, you know, things. Charles Cronhammer wrote a book.

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<v Speaker 1>I had him on a couple of times. His greatest

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<v Speaker 1>compilation of essays was Things that Matter And whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not Governor Tim Waltz actually deserted or whether he quit

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<v Speaker 1>or whether he took retirement from the Minnesota National Guard

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<v Speaker 1>before deployment is interesting if some twenty some years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think my producer Tony Benner gets up

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<v Speaker 1>with the kitchen table every morning and say, honey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I was going to vote for Kamala Harrison. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about Tim Wallas what he did in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>oh four. I mean, I don't know if I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Aren't those in the categories of things that

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter? Just like JD Vance allegedly saying, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the cat ladies, single liberal females, white and titled women

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<v Speaker 1>these things that don't matter?

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, I think I think the cat ladies thing matters

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more than than the Walls thing. You're you're

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<v Speaker 3>right that that voters aren't gonna suddenly say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's that that Jim Wall's was less than probably

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<v Speaker 3>fully candidate in a couple of stump speeches about his

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<v Speaker 3>military record, and therefore they're not going to vote for him.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, I think I think you're I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely right. JD Vance still has a problem with voters,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know this is you and I talked about

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<v Speaker 3>this last week. The problem that jd Vance has is

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<v Speaker 3>he allowed somebody else to define him. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>things happen. It's just the way life is. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that that's where we're at, which is Jade Vance

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<v Speaker 3>has been defined by the media and that doesn't that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work out well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and I've known him, I've known Jade Vance not

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I've known Donald Trump. But Jadie Vance

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<v Speaker 1>is a great guy. I mean his wife, usha the

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<v Speaker 1>three kids, and how he lived his life where he

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<v Speaker 1>came from from Middletown, Ohio and living in the dirt

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<v Speaker 1>to Jackson, Kentucky. I mean, he's the American dream. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it's amazing that some interview with Tucker Carlson four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago has stuck to him because the media keeps

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it up. They don't stop until they have the

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<v Speaker 1>desired effect. And I don't know. And you know how

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<v Speaker 1>the cable news game is played that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>the meters. And I'm sure in twenty twenty, if he

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone back in time, he wouldn't have used

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<v Speaker 1>the term cat ladies to describe what is happening. I

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<v Speaker 1>voodoo economics was to Bush forty one in Reagan that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow it sticks or it's like the rabbit that chased

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<v Speaker 1>down Jimmy Carter in the pond, and so whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is the media, it kind of sticks to you and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you can get out. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I said before Leland Veddert of

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<v Speaker 1>News Nation that what's going to decide this race hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened yet, and I just have to I have a

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<v Speaker 1>fear that what's happening in Vienna, Austria, because of all

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<v Speaker 1>the terrorists that are let into our country by the

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<v Speaker 1>policies of this administration, something bad's going to happen and

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<v Speaker 1>everything's going to change.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, things change, right, We've learned that from a debate

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<v Speaker 3>and an attempted assassination and the switch of candidates. Things

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<v Speaker 3>change in politics, and so that's why we have to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we have to say if the election were

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<v Speaker 3>held today, this is how it is, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>elect for hell tomorrow, these things could be different, and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact they will be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've gone back and forth saying Trump can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose to Trump can't win. Now I'm kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. But you brought up a great point. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're way up in the polling, everyone knows Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>better for jobs. Trump's better for the grain New Deal stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>He's better for the gas and oil, and he's better

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<v Speaker 1>on that energy. He's better on the economy by a

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<v Speaker 1>wide margin. He's better on inflation by a wide margin.

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<v Speaker 1>He's better on immigration. So in the four or five

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<v Speaker 1>issues that really matter to Americans, he is way up

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<v Speaker 1>on Kamala Harris. There is something going on that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>more and more Americans from saying I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. I think he appeals to your to your head,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas appeals to

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<v Speaker 1>your heart. And one is emotional and one is cerebral.

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<v Speaker 1>And as long as he maintains that leading the jobs

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<v Speaker 1>in the economy, I think it's going to win unless

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<v Speaker 1>something happens that changes the race completely. Leland Venter, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on, and I appreciate it. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And all I can say is this is one hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a ride and it's going to continue until November fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point I'm glad you share your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>with us. And thanks again for coming on the Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. Thank you, Leland b to be with you. Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Let's continue with more line becomes available

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<v Speaker 1>five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand. After two

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock today, get ready for this. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a flash poll if the election were held today, who

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<v Speaker 1>would you vote for and why? All on news radio

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