Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, The Great American. This Laius Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: in the tri State, warm and beautiful, the country concerts,
Speaker 1: the night with Jason Albeen with my big Green tractor.
Speaker 1: Reds Baseball kicks off about six ten to night with
Speaker 1: the Brew Crew. This might be the last gasp. I
Speaker 1: think the patient has a heartbeat, but out a big one.
Speaker 1: Get the paddles ready. If they can sweep the Brew Crew,
Speaker 1: then come back home. Who knows what happens, But they're
Speaker 1: still in last place. But that's a different issue, Joony,
Speaker 1: you and I now is on balances that Leland vetterert
Speaker 1: seeing every Monday through Friday on News Nation, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And Leland Viverdert. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Leland. First of all, the polling seems to indicate
Speaker 1: as we speak that the race is tied between Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris and Donald Trump. The last five or six weeks
Speaker 1: beginning June the twenty seventh, have been absolutely unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: right now she's running a shadow campaign in which she
Speaker 1: reads from the teleprompter, does about a thirty eight second
Speaker 1: interview with some reporter off to the side of the
Speaker 1: plane with the engines running, then gets back on the plane.
Speaker 1: So here's the big question. I may ask you the
Speaker 1: big question early on Leland, are you ready for the
Speaker 1: big question?
Speaker 2: Always?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Can she for the next I don't know, eighty five
Speaker 1: eighty eight days do this and nothing else? Like Joe
Speaker 1: Biden did in twenty twenty, stay in the basement. She
Speaker 1: has the great debate I guess on ABC on I
Speaker 1: think September tenth, and whoever wins that debate, that'll be
Speaker 1: the end of the debates. Whoever wins, that's it. I've
Speaker 1: already done it. So can she do what she's done
Speaker 1: successfully for the next eighty five to ninety days? Yay
Speaker 1: or nay?
Speaker 3: Well, you know they say in this financial markets that
Speaker 3: past performance is not indicative of future results. I would
Speaker 3: argue in politics that if if it's working, why do
Speaker 3: anything different? And it is working for her in so far.
Speaker 3: The media at all has been compliant in not beating
Speaker 3: the drum of your in the basement, And you rightly
Speaker 3: pointed out this is a figure de basement rather than
Speaker 3: the literal basement that Joe Biden was in. But you
Speaker 3: rightly point out that it worked for Joe Biden in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and it is currently working for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Well, the excuse that Joe Biden had in twenty twenty, well,
Speaker 1: fear COVID and I got to wear my mask and
Speaker 1: I can't go in public. He had like drive in
Speaker 1: movie theater deals. It kind of worked in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: And I'm just suspicious of the idea that even the
Speaker 1: so called mainstream media, of which you might be a
Speaker 1: part of in a sense, News Nation is doing great
Speaker 1: about the only cable channel increasing in ratings, that somehow
Speaker 1: you and the mainstream media will allow her even after
Speaker 1: September the tenth, for like two months or thereafter, with
Speaker 1: voting taking place, will allow her not to confront the
Speaker 1: obvious differences between things she's said in the past and
Speaker 1: things she's not saying today. And my answer would be yes,
Speaker 1: that the media, the mainstream media, is so committed to
Speaker 1: her victory and so committed to the absolute defeat of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump that they will permit this as they would
Speaker 1: permit with no other am I correct.
Speaker 3: Hard to argue with your logic. The hatred of Donald
Speaker 3: Trump by a large partition portion, I think you can
Speaker 3: call it the legacy media or the advocacy media, at
Speaker 3: least some the left is certainly palpable.
Speaker 2: And you bring up a great point, which is about
Speaker 2: the policy issues of Donald Trump versus Kamala Harrison, specifically
Speaker 2: the big issues with.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and policies. Okay, does she still believe okay,
Speaker 3: in ending of filibuster for the Green New Deal? We
Speaker 3: are led to believe. We are led to believe that
Speaker 3: she does not, but she won't come out and say it.
Speaker 3: Does she still believe in Medicare for all, single payer healthcare,
Speaker 3: taking away private insurance? Again, we don't know where is
Speaker 3: she on fracking right, Well, she wanted to end fracking.
Speaker 3: Does she still want to enfracking? She's not saying on
Speaker 3: the stumps saying that, but she's not saying anything different.
Speaker 3: So those are the real issues. But when you're getting
Speaker 3: the crowd side she's getting and there's enthusiasm for her
Speaker 3: and therefore there are people tuning in to watch her
Speaker 3: and be absorbed by freedom and joy, then there's not
Speaker 3: much incentive by the media so far to call that
Speaker 3: out on the issues.
Speaker 1: The two big issues in the country according to polling,
Speaker 1: I think you and I would agree, are inflation and
Speaker 1: illegal immigration not legal immigration. We admit legally one million
Speaker 1: people every year, more people legally admitted to all the
Speaker 1: countries in the world put together legally, but we also
Speaker 1: admit anywhere between five and ten million illegally. And inflation,
Speaker 1: and she and her stump speech, she says we have
Speaker 1: to stop the rise of inflation. On immigration, she says
Speaker 1: basically that we're a nation of immigrants. We have to
Speaker 1: understand where each of us came from without giving us
Speaker 1: any policy prescriptions. Can she walk a fine line on
Speaker 1: inflation when the governmental policies of Biden Harris have caused
Speaker 1: the inflation. When Trump left office, the inflation rate was
Speaker 1: one point four percent. About a year and a half
Speaker 1: later it was nine percent. Now hovers between three and
Speaker 1: a half to four and a half percent. Can she
Speaker 1: walk the fine line and do happy talk on inflation
Speaker 1: when the Inflation and Reduction Act misnamed which caused inflation increase.
Speaker 1: And on immigration, she's whether you used the word czar
Speaker 1: or not. She was in charge of the southern border,
Speaker 1: and so the adoring crowds that show up, which I understand.
Speaker 1: The other day there was a disaster in one of
Speaker 1: her rallies in which the adherents who came to listen
Speaker 1: to her to not get home for hours and hours
Speaker 1: and hours. There was a breakdown of transportation, that they
Speaker 1: were dehydrated, etc. But it's amazing to me that on
Speaker 1: the issues of inflation and immigration, Trump is like a
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five percent lead over Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: and still the polls seemingly at this point have them tied.
Speaker 1: Is that good or bad for the Trumpster? Good or
Speaker 1: bad for Harris?
Speaker 3: Well, when you've got the momentum which Harris has, it's
Speaker 3: always good for you. You always want to have the
Speaker 3: big mo that's number one. Number two. You rightly point
Speaker 3: out that Kamala Harris has managed to do something in
Speaker 3: three weeks that Joe Biden couldn't do in three years,
Speaker 3: which is divorce herself from the Biden Harris legacy, right,
Speaker 3: and all of the things that people didn't like about
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and all the policies people didn't like, she
Speaker 3: somehow has completely disassociated herself with And you listen to
Speaker 3: her thumb speech and there's an ad that she just
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Speaker 3: talks about being in the the middle class and on
Speaker 3: day one she is going to work for the middle
Speaker 3: class and she's going to work to lower the costs
Speaker 3: of how the lower the cost of housing?
Speaker 2: Well, what are you going to this?
Speaker 3: I think would be the fair question. What are you
Speaker 3: going to do differently to lower the cost of housing?
Speaker 3: And Joe Biden has been doing to lower the cost
Speaker 3: of housing for the past three years that have caused
Speaker 3: the house of cost of housing to go up? What
Speaker 3: are you going to do differently?
Speaker 1: Her solution is rent rent controls? What about she says, rent?
Speaker 1: Don't rent controls cause housing rents to go up, because
Speaker 1: in California the prescription is rent controls. In other words,
Speaker 1: you can't increase the apartments more than five percent or
Speaker 1: three percent a year or less. And if the prescription
Speaker 1: for housing difficulties are rent controls, isn't it clear? By
Speaker 1: Milton Friedman long passed away, but one of my economic
Speaker 1: heroes that rent controls used by socialists will eventually cause
Speaker 1: fewer apartments to be built, fewer houses to be built.
Speaker 1: There's not much of a profit in it. And secondly,
Speaker 1: rent controls calls rents to go up? Does she understand that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Come on, Bill, you know the problem with socialism
Speaker 3: it's just never been tried in its perfect model. Well,
Speaker 3: come on, come on, come on? Was to be fair?
Speaker 3: I don't say either she doesn't know or doesn't believe it. Okay,
Speaker 3: because Tim Walls, who is the first and only executive
Speaker 3: decisions she has made, says that one man's socialism is
Speaker 3: just another man's word for neighborly this Yeah, okay, you know,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has shown and said where she stands on
Speaker 3: a lot of these issues. And the fact that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is ahead on the issues. When you pull the
Speaker 3: issues immigration, inflation, crime, the fact that Trump is ahead
Speaker 3: by double digits on those but yet is pulling neck
Speaker 3: and neck, one might say, okay, that is that is
Speaker 3: that we should require some soul searching by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Not because there is something that the polls are that
Speaker 3: the American pop public likes him on the issues and
Speaker 3: doesn't like him enough to vote for him. That might,
Speaker 3: under normal circumstances, require a reset. To use a friendly
Speaker 3: term these days, turn phrase. In a campaign, he tried
Speaker 3: that yesterday, I guess to dismal effects.
Speaker 1: Right, and in fact, on the economy, on jobs, on inflation,
Speaker 1: on immigration, Trump isn't beating her by a couple percentage points.
Speaker 1: It's like two to one, not even close. So maybe
Speaker 1: a person, but he's way up on It's way up
Speaker 1: on those issues with her double digits trouble digits. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, maybe he'll look at himself and say,
Speaker 1: maybe it's my peccadillo, is my personality.
Speaker 3: You've known him for a long You've known him for
Speaker 3: a long time. Have you ever known Donald Trump to
Speaker 3: look at himself and go.
Speaker 1: You know, no, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3: I mean seventy eight, I'll give you the two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight line. There's always hope.
Speaker 1: This, you know, there's hope and change maybe, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. Now let's talk for a moment about
Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls versus JD. Vance, And I think this
Speaker 1: military thing is, you know, things. Charles Cronhammer wrote a book.
Speaker 1: I had him on a couple of times. His greatest
Speaker 1: compilation of essays was Things that Matter And whether or
Speaker 1: not Governor Tim Waltz actually deserted or whether he quit
Speaker 1: or whether he took retirement from the Minnesota National Guard
Speaker 1: before deployment is interesting if some twenty some years ago.
Speaker 1: But I don't think my producer Tony Benner gets up
Speaker 1: with the kitchen table every morning and say, honey, you
Speaker 1: know I was going to vote for Kamala Harrison. I
Speaker 1: don't know about Tim Wallas what he did in twenty
Speaker 1: oh four. I mean, I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: do that. Aren't those in the categories of things that
Speaker 1: don't matter? Just like JD Vance allegedly saying, I guess
Speaker 1: the cat ladies, single liberal females, white and titled women
Speaker 1: that become angry at men as they get older, aren't
Speaker 1: these things that don't matter?
Speaker 3: Ultimately, I think I think the cat ladies thing matters
Speaker 3: a lot more than than the Walls thing. You're you're
Speaker 3: right that that voters aren't gonna suddenly say, well, you know,
Speaker 3: so it's that that Jim Wall's was less than probably
Speaker 3: fully candidate in a couple of stump speeches about his
Speaker 3: military record, and therefore they're not going to vote for him.
Speaker 3: So no, I think I think you're I think you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right. JD Vance still has a problem with voters,
Speaker 3: and you know this is you and I talked about
Speaker 3: this last week. The problem that jd Vance has is
Speaker 3: he allowed somebody else to define him. And when you
Speaker 3: allow other other people people to define you, first, bad
Speaker 3: things happen. It's just the way life is. And I
Speaker 3: think that that's where we're at, which is Jade Vance
Speaker 3: has been defined by the media and that doesn't that
Speaker 3: doesn't work out well.
Speaker 1: Now and I've known him, I've known Jade Vance not
Speaker 1: as long as I've known Donald Trump. But Jadie Vance
Speaker 1: is a great guy. I mean his wife, usha the
Speaker 1: three kids, and how he lived his life where he
Speaker 1: came from from Middletown, Ohio and living in the dirt
Speaker 1: to Jackson, Kentucky. I mean, he's the American dream. And
Speaker 1: then it's amazing that some interview with Tucker Carlson four
Speaker 1: years ago has stuck to him because the media keeps
Speaker 1: bringing it up. They don't stop until they have the
Speaker 1: desired effect. And I don't know. And you know how
Speaker 1: the cable news game is played that you want to
Speaker 1: have guests on who can turn a phrase and run
Speaker 1: the meters. And I'm sure in twenty twenty, if he
Speaker 1: would have gone back in time, he wouldn't have used
Speaker 1: the term cat ladies to describe what is happening. I
Speaker 1: think the since if his remarks were accurate, the labeling
Speaker 1: was somewhat inaccurate, and it is able to be like
Speaker 1: voodoo economics was to Bush forty one in Reagan that
Speaker 1: somehow it sticks or it's like the rabbit that chased
Speaker 1: down Jimmy Carter in the pond, and so whatever it
Speaker 1: is the media, it kind of sticks to you and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can get out. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I said before Leland Veddert of
Speaker 1: News Nation that what's going to decide this race hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet, and I just have to I have a
Speaker 1: fear that what's happening in Vienna, Austria, because of all
Speaker 1: the terrorists that are let into our country by the
Speaker 1: policies of this administration, something bad's going to happen and
Speaker 1: everything's going to change.
Speaker 3: Well, things change, right, We've learned that from a debate
Speaker 3: and an attempted assassination and the switch of candidates. Things
Speaker 3: change in politics, and so that's why we have to,
Speaker 3: you know, we have to say if the election were
Speaker 3: held today, this is how it is, but if you
Speaker 3: elect for hell tomorrow, these things could be different, and
Speaker 3: in fact they will be.
Speaker 1: You know, I've gone back and forth saying Trump can't
Speaker 1: lose to Trump can't win. Now I'm kind of in
Speaker 1: the middle. But you brought up a great point. That is,
Speaker 1: if you're way up in the polling, everyone knows Trump's
Speaker 1: better for jobs. Trump's better for the grain New Deal stuff,
Speaker 1: He's better for the gas and oil, and he's better
Speaker 1: on that energy. He's better on the economy by a
Speaker 1: wide margin. He's better on inflation by a wide margin.
Speaker 1: He's better on immigration. So in the four or five
Speaker 1: issues that really matter to Americans, he is way up
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris. There is something going on that keeps
Speaker 1: more and more Americans from saying I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: that guy. I think he appeals to your to your head,
Speaker 1: and I think Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas appeals to
Speaker 1: your heart. And one is emotional and one is cerebral.
Speaker 1: And as long as he maintains that leading the jobs
Speaker 1: in the economy, I think it's going to win unless
Speaker 1: something happens that changes the race completely. Leland Venter, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on, and I appreciate it. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And all I can say is this is one hell
Speaker 1: of a ride and it's going to continue until November fifth.
Speaker 1: But at this point I'm glad you share your thoughts
Speaker 1: with us. And thanks again for coming on the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. Thank you, Leland b to be with you. Bill,
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more line becomes available
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