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<v Speaker 1>I never believed that the CIA killed Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're talking to a guy that's read the entire

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<v Speaker 2>JFK file.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen all the secret stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen all of that, and I've seen the seven

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<v Speaker 2>pages of the nine to eleven report. I've seen it all.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't say that to people that you can't tell

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<v Speaker 3>what you saw. Should the Kennedy stuff be released?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything there that is?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Is anybody alive that?

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is the things that we can't release have

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the questions you guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>Asking, what the hell does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Luongo, that's a good question, and I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a it's interesting. Hi, Clint, how are you. How

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<v Speaker 5>you been it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm good. Thanks for joining me, Tom, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the reason I started us off with that

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<v Speaker 1>is because allegedly the JFK files are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fully released, unredacted within minutes. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be true. We have been rug pulled numerous times,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with the Epstein files, but I'm interested. They have

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<v Speaker 1>piqued my interest at least. What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I yeah, I think this stuff is interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>The older I get and the longer this goes on,

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<v Speaker 5>the more I look at this is just a kind

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<v Speaker 5>of I don't know, I'm distrustful of everything at this point, Clinton,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm distrustful of every every distraction of every.

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<v Speaker 3>Of everything I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's funny this morning, just this is gonna sound

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<v Speaker 5>like a diggression, but this morning I was too my

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<v Speaker 5>Twitter feed, and so I think from Jim Bianco about

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<v Speaker 5>concentration of stories of of financial market distress, and then

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<v Speaker 5>we're like the highest, second highest and concentration of this

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<v Speaker 5>at all time relative you know, COVID being the other one. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't know about you, but it really, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with the down with forty one five, I'm not feeling

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<v Speaker 5>like the world is you know, the financial world isn't

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<v Speaker 5>getting ready to like come apart at the seams. So

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying is that there's an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 5>of of gas lighting going on on all sides. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I see very obvious divide and rule plays being, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>being thrown out there between libertarians and conservatives, like they're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to break the Trump coalition at every level. So

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<v Speaker 5>I look at the the Epstein file thing, and I'm like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>I look at the the JFK files again, same kind

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<v Speaker 5>of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something do you throw out there?

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<v Speaker 5>And then especially the Epstein file thing, it was clear

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<v Speaker 5>that there was a there was like deep state fucker

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<v Speaker 5>going on and nothing with Pamba, It's clear. It's clear

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<v Speaker 5>that she was told one thing. You know, she's still

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<v Speaker 5>in the process of getting her you know, her staff

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<v Speaker 5>together and everything else, and she was a suit you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they you know, then they rugged her, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and then what happens. Everybody's like screaming, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like really like you could see that coming, Like

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<v Speaker 5>you couldn't see. You couldn't see a bunch of deep

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<v Speaker 5>state that's like running around and trying to make her

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<v Speaker 5>look bad like, and then a whole bunch of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>libertarians and magatars in this one and that one, and

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<v Speaker 5>people who are honestly are fake conservatives, like they're fake

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<v Speaker 5>fellow travelers, and they're embedded and they're everywhere, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we have to realize this. We have to realize that

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<v Speaker 5>the information space is in every way, matter, shape and form, compromised.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to assume that we have to assume.

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<v Speaker 5>That we're living under the most intense psychological intelligence operations

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<v Speaker 5>of all time, because the stakes are that high for

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<v Speaker 5>the people who are you know, whose power is being

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<v Speaker 5>threatened here. So you would expect m I six to

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<v Speaker 5>be an overdrive. You expect the Masade and the CIA

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, the State Department and everybody imaginable and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and I see it in the financial markets

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<v Speaker 5>as well. So at this point, like I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's cute, You're going to release all the JFA files. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 5>really care because I'm worried about what I'm seeing out

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<v Speaker 5>of Mark Karney in Canada, what I'm seeing out of

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<v Speaker 5>Manuel Macrona in France, what I'm seeing, you know, what

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<v Speaker 5>they're doing to try and and kre Starman or sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>kir Stalin in the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm watching those guys and that's what has my attention, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Me both, you know, But that's just not the headline

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<v Speaker 1>grabbers generally. But no, I agree with your assessment. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent the past week really locked in on Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into that in a second. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do understand you know, the desire for transparency. That was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what Trump round three, if you will, was

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<v Speaker 1>ushered into power with. And I think people expect that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it was an unforced era on Pam's

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<v Speaker 1>fault or on Pam's part.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not I no, I agree, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that you know, like Trump when he

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<v Speaker 5>first got to Washington, d C in twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't know how I operated. He made a lot

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<v Speaker 5>on forced errors, not the least of which was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, allowing Mike Funn to be you know, taken

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<v Speaker 5>from him right set the tone for the entire administration.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think BONDI has got you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>d C is not Tallahassee right, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>a much much different beast. And and so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>did they have her. You know, she's in a very

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<v Speaker 5>very difficult position.

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<v Speaker 3>So and we'll see. I mean, I'm not and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not convinced that she's the right ag right, I after

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<v Speaker 3>mac Gates was was uh was.

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<v Speaker 5>Was was ship can that was the odds on bet

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<v Speaker 5>my Dexter right and I both made the call that

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<v Speaker 5>it would be Pambondi and that Ashley Moody would be

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<v Speaker 5>moved into you know, Rick Scott's position and blah blah

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<v Speaker 5>blahlah blah and that. But there's still a feud going

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<v Speaker 5>on between the Santas and Trump because you know, he's

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<v Speaker 5>Trump and there's no known cure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, well, like, so let's let's let's pivot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pivot to uh to well, actually I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with Yeah, let's start with Canada. I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not not the headline grabber, but Mark Carney being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of England. Uh yeah, seems like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a globalist plant, especially since he wasn't even elected. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious what your read is on all of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh God, I just did an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 5>of my friend Sean Newman about this this very thing,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm about to publish a podcast as a matter

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<v Speaker 5>of fact, I've got a podcast with Chris Sims of

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<v Speaker 5>the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, who is a great source of

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<v Speaker 5>information about Mark Carney, by the way, because she's actually

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<v Speaker 5>read this book like she's braver soul than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've got one of those coming out.

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<v Speaker 5>So for the gold Goods, and Guns podcast that'll be

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be publishing that right after you and I get

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<v Speaker 5>done this afternoon. I've got it all like laid out.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've been really dip dipping into Canada a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>And I you know, so last week I was on

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<v Speaker 5>Newman's podcast, and because we hadn't done one in a while,

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<v Speaker 5>and we and it was the day that car Me

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<v Speaker 5>got sworn in. And then right after that we had

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<v Speaker 5>this announcement about three or four hours later about Canada

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<v Speaker 5>issuing bonds denominated in US dollars. And I knew this

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<v Speaker 5>was important because I knew the timing was important. It

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<v Speaker 5>may not be the size of the bond issuance or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was important because for optics purposes. So the

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<v Speaker 5>next morning of courth I have to get up and

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<v Speaker 5>I have to do my Wednesday market report for my patrons,

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<v Speaker 5>and I have to think I have to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I start thinking about it. It took me about

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<v Speaker 5>ten minutes to figure out, oh right, knowing everything that

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<v Speaker 5>I know about SOFA and libor and offshore dollar markets

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<v Speaker 5>and everything else, I'm like, oh, This is just another

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<v Speaker 5>this is another attempt to shovel you know, cheap euro

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<v Speaker 5>dollars into the failing European financial system via the back

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<v Speaker 5>door with with with Carney as the you know, that's

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<v Speaker 5>why they.

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<v Speaker 3>Put Carne in charge. It's similar to what happened when.

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<v Speaker 5>Mary Droggy, the former head of the ECB, took over

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<v Speaker 5>the caretaker government in Italy after they blew up the coalition,

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<v Speaker 5>the populist coalition there, if you remember, you go back

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<v Speaker 5>to that and knowing full well that the polls were

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<v Speaker 5>all pushing eventually that Georgia Maloney would take power, but

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<v Speaker 5>they forestalled that for as long as possible, put Draggy

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<v Speaker 5>and then leave Maloney with an absolute mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, no one is going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to is going to equate the depth of the

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<v Speaker 5>Italian deep state to the Canadian deep state. But because

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<v Speaker 5>the Italian deep state makes the American deep state look

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<v Speaker 5>like a bunch of quakers, and because it does because

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<v Speaker 5>it's a thousand years old or two thousand years old,

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<v Speaker 5>much more entrenched, right, But there's definitely something going on here.

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<v Speaker 5>Davos has moved heaven and earth to put Carni in

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<v Speaker 5>charge by validating two thirds of the Liberal Party votes.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you know, I mean I got sent the

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<v Speaker 5>spreadsheet of the of the boat totals by riding and

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<v Speaker 5>it was like straight across the board, ninety ten, ninety ten.

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<v Speaker 5>There wasn't even any They didn't even try and hide

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that they just made the numbers up like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They just you know, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Just ran a random number generator right on every column

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<v Speaker 5>and then you know, copied and paste with values and

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<v Speaker 5>then they were done to the hide their work.

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<v Speaker 3>I can almost bet you that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a conclusion that Carney was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next prime.

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<v Speaker 5>Minister, right because they needed him to come into play.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no way that Christian Friedlan was going to be

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<v Speaker 5>prime minister. Her job was to act crazy what she is,

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<v Speaker 5>the crazy you know Ukrainian diaspora bitch that she is,

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<v Speaker 5>and and then push every and then say okay, well

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have more Carney come in because he's

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<v Speaker 5>a nice, you know, offensive list technocrat.

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<v Speaker 3>Again classic kind of Davos play.

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<v Speaker 5>We have the crazy woman and saying we need New

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<v Speaker 5>Canada needs nuclear weapons to defend against the evil United States.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Mark karneye comes in, right, That's like, that's

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<v Speaker 5>the way they always play this. So McCarney, being a

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<v Speaker 5>central banker, understands plumbing, understands global plumbing, understands that they're

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<v Speaker 5>they're plumbing for the carbon credits, the carbon taxes and

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<v Speaker 5>everything else far better than I do. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>going to sit here in the ark that I know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what we're going to do, because I will. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not going to blow up smoke up anybody's ass about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do know is how these people operate and

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<v Speaker 5>with how they think, because it's pretty obvious, and they

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<v Speaker 5>need to be able to continue to have as many

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so all the budget cuts right, all of the.

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<v Speaker 5>and they can enact, and we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 5>the continuing resolution in a second here, And why I'm

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<v Speaker 5>because he does know better, because he's been briefed.

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<v Speaker 3>As to what the difference is.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, you have a the stock of dollars

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<v Speaker 5>that prices are set at the margin. So the price

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<v Speaker 5>for dollars is set at the margin. So if Trump

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<v Speaker 5>the key to this is understanding that the Canada runs

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Four, the Canada ran one hundred twenty four point five

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<v Speaker 5>billion dollar trade surplus with the United states, This is

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<v Speaker 5>hundred billion dollars a year, that's Canada's stealing from US. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twenty four billion to that is the

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<v Speaker 5>trade surplus. And I'm sure that he's got some other

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<v Speaker 5>sources of revenue that he's thrown in there, and then

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<v Speaker 5>he likes to exaggerate by twenty percent because he's Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump again, and there's no known cure. So when you

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<v Speaker 5>put all that together, it's very clear that that's one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and twenty four billion dollars that can be used

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and ten billion dollars a month is three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred billion dollars worth of US dollar denominated bonds at

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<v Speaker 5>three percent, Right, that's a lot of money, or.

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<v Speaker 3>So it levels.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it to beat down interest rates.

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<v Speaker 5>They're doing it to create a dollar dollar carry trade

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<v Speaker 3>Because traditionally this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why would Carne, Why would Carne play ball? Like

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<v Speaker 3>So again, go again.

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<v Speaker 5>The point being is that the carry trade is that

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing an end run around the FED. The FED

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<v Speaker 5>is trying to hold monitoring polls tight, and we expect

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<v Speaker 5>them tomorrow to not cut rates. The Bank Canada's cut

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<v Speaker 5>rates the other day. So it's really funny, is like

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<v Speaker 5>that Wednesday morning, I'm sitting there putting the slides together

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<v Speaker 5>about this, and I'm like, and I was done early

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<v Speaker 5>at like six o'clock, and by eight thirty I was

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<v Speaker 5>ready to record. Now, usually I am not ready to

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta wait, because the Bank of Canadas, if I'm

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<v Speaker 5>announce that they're going to cut interest rates by twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five basis points in twenty minutes. And then they did.

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<v Speaker 5>Got you because it makes sense because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>The bank to the Bank Canada likes.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep interest rates.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about twenty five to fifty bases points below the

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<v Speaker 5>Fed Funds rate. So as Powell was raising sharply during

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<v Speaker 5>went along with them, and they'd hit five percent while

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<v Speaker 5>we hit five and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>But since then, Powell's.

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<v Speaker 5>Come down a point. They've come down to two seven

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<v Speaker 5>to five. They've cut two and a quarter. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 5>that spread is now much much wider than it was

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<v Speaker 5>in the past and it's ever been, and I expect

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<v Speaker 5>that it's going to continue. I expect Powell to start

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<v Speaker 5>cutting rates again later in the year. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>fully expect by the end of the year will be

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<v Speaker 5>closer to three percent than four percent on the Fed

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<v Speaker 5>Funds rate. I've been calling for either three, two five

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<v Speaker 5>or three The current so for futures market is saying

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<v Speaker 5>December twenty twenty five money is three seven five. It's

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<v Speaker 5>dipped as low as three five to five. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 5>We have an FOMC meeting tomorrow, so that will change.

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<v Speaker 5>That will probably move that market in some probably move

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<v Speaker 5>it down fifteen basis points tomorrow. I'm just knowing the

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<v Speaker 5>way this market works. So when I'm thinking here is

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<v Speaker 5>is you set up why would you drop that? Why

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<v Speaker 5>would you widen that spread if you weren't going to

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<v Speaker 5>try and set up a dollar dollar carry trade between

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<v Speaker 5>Canadian issued offshore dollars and American dollars, right, because now

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<v Speaker 5>you can borrow it and two point seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 5>in the US dollars and then invest it four point

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five or four point or even worse four point

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<v Speaker 5>six than the thirty Right. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 5>the way they the US yield curve is sitting right now,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a big kink between six months and two years,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the long end of the curve is up

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<v Speaker 5>really strong.

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<v Speaker 3>So the market has pushed the thirty year up like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty basis points over the ten and that's the highest

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<v Speaker 3>to spin in, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, going back to green span. Okay, since Bernanki took

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<v Speaker 5>us to the zero bound, it hasn't been that high.

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<v Speaker 5>Forever that spread has been that high. So why would

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<v Speaker 5>that be, Well, you know, if you want to write

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<v Speaker 5>the headlines that administration, well it is. If you want

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<v Speaker 5>to write headlines that that Trump is sowing global chaos,

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<v Speaker 5>well would you do if you were Davos, you'd sell

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<v Speaker 5>some of your stock of treasuries? Especially the long dated ones,

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<v Speaker 5>and you'd buy the short end of the yield curve,

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<v Speaker 1>Well because then you have the inversion and then the

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<v Speaker 5>So remember, one of the things that I figured out

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<v Speaker 5>have been buying a crap ton of US treasuries. They've

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<v Speaker 5>add it in. So as of December of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>four or January, yeah, twenty twenty four, back to September

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty one, over that time, the central banks

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<v Speaker 5>that I associate with Europe and the UK have bought

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<v Speaker 5>over one point one trillion dollars net net of US treasuries,

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<v Speaker 5>significantly China and China and the and Japan. In the

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<v Speaker 5>early stages of the rate hikes and the tightening during

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<v Speaker 5>in the in the months before Powall started raising rates,

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<v Speaker 5>and then that early in those early days when it

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one, and during all that they sold a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>and then they stopped, and then basically the Asia Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the world, the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's not defined as the European Union, plus the British

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<v Speaker 5>and all of their attendant Central Bank and their their

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<v Speaker 5>in that list. Like this, they're still dumped in in

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<v Speaker 5>the in the Asia Pacific pile. But just like the

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<v Speaker 5>Bahamas and the British Virgin Islands and the Caymans and

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<v Speaker 5>Ireland and Canada, they've all bought a shit ton of

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<v Speaker 5>US treasuries.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of.

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<v Speaker 5>Fact, as of you know, it's been neck and neck

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<v Speaker 5>now for a couple for the last six months between

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<v Speaker 5>the Bank of England or China being the second largest

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<v Speaker 5>holder of US treasuries as reserves. Central banks, right, which

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<v Speaker 5>was the British have never owned this many. So now

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<v Speaker 5>that here's the question for you, why would they do that? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Then attendantly keep a.

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<v Speaker 5>Cap on bond yields overseas because everything is about keeping

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<v Speaker 5>like the interest rates and the exchange rates and a

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<v Speaker 5>certain and a certain band. And outside of those bands

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<v Speaker 5>is when is when interest rate derivatives start to pop

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<v Speaker 3>Hedged in a tight band.

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<v Speaker 5>You get outside of the band, and now something has

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<v Speaker 5>this in a number of different charts. You can look

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<v Speaker 5>at the euro pound cross of how hard they've defended

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<v Speaker 5>eighty three cents. You can look at the up until recently,

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<v Speaker 5>the German ten year yield was defended a two point

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<v Speaker 5>five percent on the German ten year yield for three years.

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<v Speaker 5>So was the French yield three percent, It was it

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<v Speaker 5>was everywhere and well guard you're running a yieldcare control

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<v Speaker 5>program while she was in power, and now that she's not,

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<v Speaker 5>now that now those markets are starting to break down

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<v Speaker 5>and they need other ways to deal with to try

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<v Speaker 5>and keep the spreads from blowing out, or they need

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<v Speaker 5>to accelerate the collapse of the European bond markets with

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<v Speaker 5>profligate spending and go for a digital euro war blah

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<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah blah, which is what I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>But they're trying to prime Trump for it. Not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well yeah, see Mark Carney and uh, I forget

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<v Speaker 1>the I forget the lady's name, but EU. They were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about digital euro. So I think I think your

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<v Speaker 1>your read is probably right that that's the transition of

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<v Speaker 1>Guard just to yeah, the Guard and just to Christine

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<v Speaker 1>Leguard the the X just a brief explanation at least

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding is, like, the reason you want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>these things in a band is because, I mean, global

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<v Speaker 1>financial markets are so interconnected. Plus you have you have

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<v Speaker 1>derivative products that are built off of the back of

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<v Speaker 3>Know, sure margin, you still have margin calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all of chaos can break out.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is let's go back to August fifth of

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<v Speaker 5>last year, when the Japanese Ministry of Finance dumped the

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<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of yen on off the market, dumped

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<v Speaker 5>term that unwound a lot of US dollar Japanese yen

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<v Speaker 5>carry trades. Since then, we've been watching the Europeans to

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<v Speaker 5>manage the euro, to keep the euro yen cross from

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<v Speaker 5>collapsing below one fifty five, which is the which is

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<v Speaker 5>the line there. They pushed it back up in recent

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<v Speaker 5>days with the euro bouncing back to one o nine,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think but that. But again, now you have

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<v Speaker 5>to ask yourself the question like, okay, well, why would

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<v Speaker 5>the euro be trading at one on well if everybody's

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<v Speaker 5>worried about a sovereign tch crisis brewing in Europe, Because

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<v Speaker 5>the governments are now all going to like print to

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<v Speaker 5>the high heavens in order to spend in order to

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<v Speaker 5>rearm quote unquote rearm Europe, wouldn't you get the cash?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's eight hundred billion they're allegedly going

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<v Speaker 1>to put together, and you know that they can't text that,

439
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<v Speaker 1>so they're going to be borrowing and printing it. So's

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<v Speaker 1>it's looking rough. I mean, my read of things is

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<v Speaker 1>that Europe and Canada are just absolutely fucked like, and

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<v Speaker 1>Canada in particular, I'm like, I'm curious to get your

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<v Speaker 1>read And this is like one of the main reasons

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you again, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you're just very interesting, is that you know, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I'm trying to get a read on what

447
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<v Speaker 1>Trump's doing. You know. It's it's very interesting because, yeah,

448
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<v Speaker 1>I know, he does tend to think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trade deficits are are the end of the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't particularly feel that way, but it seems as

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<v Speaker 1>if he's treating Canada significantly worse than they probably blee deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, maybe I'm just being a softy. What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's his angle? What's he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>His angle is is I think it's the same angle

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<v Speaker 5>that he has for the United States. Like I've been

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<v Speaker 5>operating under the app I've been operating under the the

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<v Speaker 5>premise since Powell sort of the stealth tightening back in

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<v Speaker 5>June twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>That if if I'm you know, it's back then when

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<v Speaker 3>you and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think you and I haven't spoken like directly in a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of years since I first started talking about this,

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<v Speaker 5>back then when I when I was thinking about that

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<v Speaker 5>and I and I then projected.

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<v Speaker 3>It out only what was that me?

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<v Speaker 5>Does this mean like that we are like declaring independence

468
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<v Speaker 5>all over again? Is this the real American revolution?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it has to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Divesting and not divesting, but creating separation between European and

471
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<v Speaker 5>American markets, meaning we get the price dollars at the margin,

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<v Speaker 5>not Europe, not the city of London. We've never been

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<v Speaker 5>able to do that history, and it's been an obsession

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<v Speaker 5>of mine now for the last three years. Is I

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<v Speaker 5>play that thesis out or play that hypothesis not thesis

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<v Speaker 5>but hypothesis out of my head and then see if

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<v Speaker 5>I can see false, I can then falsify it right.

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<v Speaker 5>And what I've come to the conclusion is I think

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<v Speaker 5>I'm right that you have to if Trump is trying

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<v Speaker 5>to declare independence from old colonial Europe and or in England.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he's trying to save the United States. Well what

482
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<v Speaker 5>if it's a bigger story than that. What if what

483
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<v Speaker 5>he's actually saying is We're going to free the entire West.

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<v Speaker 3>From these fucking people. Now, how do you do that?

485
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<v Speaker 5>Well, you do that by forcing all the globalists that

486
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<v Speaker 5>run Canada out of office. You put pressure on here

487
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<v Speaker 5>Starmer in England, you put pressure on NATO, which is

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<v Speaker 5>how the European Union thinks it's going to continue to

489
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<v Speaker 5>you know, live on our couch and make us pay

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<v Speaker 5>the mortgage payment for Europe, Like, no, you have. This

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<v Speaker 5>is so it's all tied to the money flow. It's

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<v Speaker 5>all tied to that. And so tariffs are a strategy

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<v Speaker 5>to blow open this nonsense eighty six, all the trade

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<v Speaker 5>imbalances and let's you know, let's reset the playing field.

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<v Speaker 5>But and this is the way I've been trying to explain,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if you really listen to him talk, and

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<v Speaker 5>his language is terrible, Like he's triggered so many Canadians

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<v Speaker 5>on this because and I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>If I were Canadian, I'd be.

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<v Speaker 5>Just dis triggered by Trump. You know, Calumost the fifty

501
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<v Speaker 5>first States, anybody else, I'm not gonna lie here. But again,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is what I'm saying that Shawn not two

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<v Speaker 5>hours ago, and in some ways is also what I

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<v Speaker 5>said to Chris Sims, is that look, get past the

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<v Speaker 5>emotional response, think about what this is actually doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not happy with Justin Trudeau.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want Mark Carney, you don't didn't want Christia Freeland,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't trust Pierre Poliev like I talked to Canadians

509
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<v Speaker 5>about this, from Ontario to British Columbia, and I talked

510
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<v Speaker 5>to them all and they're all like, yeah, no, Paulia

511
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<v Speaker 5>is no better.

512
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<v Speaker 3>He's just controlled nominition at best. I agree he's weak.

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<v Speaker 5>So was Scott mow and Saskatchewan. And now we're figuring

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<v Speaker 5>out probably Daniel Smith.

515
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<v Speaker 3>Out in Alberta.

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<v Speaker 5>And I plugged deeply into through Sean Newman and others

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<v Speaker 5>Alberta politics.

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<v Speaker 3>So at this point, so they're going to be there

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<v Speaker 3>in May again, I'm going to be in Calgary in May, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's position. Well is this any worse?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>So now the question to ask yourself is Trump is

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<v Speaker 5>in his own way saying look, I'm offering something that

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<v Speaker 5>no one's ever offered.

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<v Speaker 3>You. You've never really been part of the Europe. You've

526
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<v Speaker 3>never really been part of the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>You exist as this plaything of both vaster powers. We're

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<v Speaker 5>offering you to become part of the United States for

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<v Speaker 5>these reasons. Somebody said the other day was crue, but

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<v Speaker 5>he was correct. I look at the canon, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't think it works very well as anything

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<v Speaker 5>other than the state. Why he's thinking in terms of

533
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<v Speaker 5>our legal structure. He's thinking in terms of our corporate structure, taxes, defense, this, that,

534
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<v Speaker 5>and everything, all the basic mechanics of operating your country.

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<v Speaker 3>Or operating the territory.

536
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<v Speaker 5>Canadians would get a better deal into the United States

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<v Speaker 5>because you'd get our tax laws. You'd become part of

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<v Speaker 5>the as from Europe's perspective, the biggest part of the

539
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<v Speaker 5>biggest tax haven in the world, like the Europeans see

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<v Speaker 5>of the United States, and we really are the largest

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<v Speaker 5>tax haven in the entire world relative to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>We as Americans look at it and go, where's the

543
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<v Speaker 3>tax haven for us? Right?

544
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<v Speaker 5>But the truth is everybody else goes to key here

545
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<v Speaker 5>because we have the best tax law, we have the

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<v Speaker 5>best corporate law, we have the best legal protections, in

547
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<v Speaker 5>the idea, well at least we did until Obama and

548
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<v Speaker 5>Biden and the Biden hunt and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But so but in theory, especially with the constitution, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we have. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the offer for the Canadians that he's kind of

552
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<v Speaker 5>putting on the table. So he's literally saying, we can

553
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<v Speaker 5>help you, we can free you from this same thing,

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<v Speaker 5>the same offering and effect is on the table somewhat

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<v Speaker 5>to the to Britain's you know, to the b R

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<v Speaker 5>I t o n s Briton's right, not to the

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<v Speaker 5>city of London them, not to Kiir Starmer and Tony

558
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<v Speaker 5>Blair and those globalists, but to you know, little Britain,

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<v Speaker 5>to the people that Jeremy Clarkson, you know, advocates for

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<v Speaker 5>on his friggin farming show. Those are the people who

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<v Speaker 5>are being left behind. Those are the people being fucked

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<v Speaker 5>by this entire system. And this is effectively what Trump

563
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<v Speaker 5>is trying is is is think this is the way

564
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<v Speaker 5>he's thinking.

565
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<v Speaker 3>And he's not so.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, like he's not particularly good at expressing, because I

567
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<v Speaker 5>think he just kind of blucked into it in many

568
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<v Speaker 5>ways after sitting down with Justin Trudeau and you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently the story was once.

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<v Speaker 5>He was he sat down and talked to Trudeau, and

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<v Speaker 5>Trudeau was like trying to say, don't don't put tariffs

572
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<v Speaker 5>on as you'll destroy us, You'll destroy cannedy. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>if you know, if I put tariffs on, you do

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<v Speaker 5>and I just ray, economy. Are you really a country, right,

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<v Speaker 5>You're you're basically an award of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it's very interesting because, like, I see

577
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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, and I understand that, you know, Canada

578
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>really does survive based off of our market. Like that's true.

579
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<v Speaker 1>Seventy five plus percent of their exports come to the

580
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<v Speaker 1>United States. They're very reliant on us. But they've also

581
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<v Speaker 1>not been you know, extraordinarily antagonistic. Most of the illegal

582
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<v Speaker 1>immigration does come from the southern border, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump's trying to make it sound as if it's,

584
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<v Speaker 1>you know, just an equal issue on our north in

585
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the fentanyl to most of it's coming from the South.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a very interesting angle. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's where I struggle with your hypothesis. It's that, like

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that you want to get off you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get off liboard the London interbate overnight rate. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I just got that? Yeah, yeah, and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>break away from London. You want to you know, basically

592
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<v Speaker 1>declare independence autonomy. What I don't what doesn't jive with me,

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't see Trump being a guy who understands that,

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<v Speaker 1>like not on not on that high, high, high level.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to say that he's not, you know, an advanced businessman,

596
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<v Speaker 1>which he is, but like this is this is high

597
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 1>level finance, which was my arena. You know Trump ain't that?

598
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So who is who is actually advising him down this path?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I find it hard to believe that it's Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>You say that, because I didn't think that same thing

602
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<v Speaker 5>up until I'll be honest with you, up until he's

603
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<v Speaker 5>sick Elon Musk and Kir Starmer or kir Stalin, I

604
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<v Speaker 5>didn't think he understood that at all either. So and

605
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<v Speaker 5>maybe he never did, right but previously and maybe he

606
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<v Speaker 5>really just did just want a simple thing, you know, Hey,

607
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 5>let's just rebalance everything and move forward. But his rhetoric

608
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<v Speaker 5>since coming to office, I think tells me that he

609
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<v Speaker 5>does understand the whole, the whole lionizing Andrew Jackson and

610
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<v Speaker 5>McKinley and this one and now and Garfield and all

611
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<v Speaker 5>the other I think it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>And I you know, and I think that, but I

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<v Speaker 3>guess what I'm saying. Okay, what was the saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Trump is very good at saying a lot

615
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<v Speaker 5>of shit that he doesn't necessarily that is a distraction

616
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<v Speaker 5>while holding his core while holding his core cards on

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<v Speaker 5>the oh you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's no doubt, no doubt about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is like someone gamed this out like

620
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<v Speaker 1>it Trump was not the brainchild.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, who is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, But my guess is that it's a

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<v Speaker 5>consortium of New York banks. And I would think that

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<v Speaker 5>the ringleader is Jamie Diamond. I've been thinking that in

626
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<v Speaker 5>many ways for about forty years now, Okay, And that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe that I believe that hypoth I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that hypothesis. Jamie Diamond is smart enough to fucking game

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<v Speaker 1>plan this.

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<v Speaker 3>They can go.

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<v Speaker 5>And I I've been saying since the mid since and

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<v Speaker 5>again I had to put like the tea leaves, I

633
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<v Speaker 5>had to read the te leaves, but like connect some

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<v Speaker 5>dots here go back to my original hypothesis about so

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<v Speaker 5>for versus Libork, and I go back to things that

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<v Speaker 5>Martin Armstrong wrote, both publicly, but mostly he wrote them privately.

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<v Speaker 5>So he wrote a lot of stuff in this private blog,

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<v Speaker 5>which I've been a subscriber of Martins, just to the

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<v Speaker 5>private blog at the fifteen dollars level, you know, going

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<v Speaker 5>back to like twenty twelve, you know, when I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have a pot to pisson or window to throw it

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<v Speaker 5>out of, and and I between during COVID and all this,

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00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Martin kept dropping little bond Moss, here's one for you,

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<v Speaker 5>which was you know, and then there was Zero Hedge

645
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<v Speaker 5>talked about it as well. JP Morgan in JP Morgan

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00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 5>Chase in twenty nineteen, Zero Hedge kept writing over and

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<v Speaker 5>over and over again.

648
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<v Speaker 3>And I can't find these.

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<v Speaker 5>Freaking articles because zero Hedge refuses to get a halfway

650
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 5>decent fucking search engine.

651
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Dude, Tyler, buy.

652
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 5>A halfway decent fucking search engine for for I sake,

653
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 5>so I can find this stuff because you wrote about it,

654
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 5>you talked about it, which was that kept writing over

655
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<v Speaker 5>and over again.

656
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<v Speaker 3>Why is JP Morgan trying to start a REBO crisis?

657
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<v Speaker 3>In February. In January in March, in June, and then

658
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<v Speaker 3>in September.

659
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 5>We had the sofa crisis at twenty nineteen, which forced

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<v Speaker 5>the FED into the Reboul markets.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. What happened, Well, Martin Armstrong cold this what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Which is that the that JP Morgan was the only

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<v Speaker 5>one was the first US bank to refuse to take

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<v Speaker 5>European sovereign debt as rebo collateral at par I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what they were offering, but it certainly wasn't anything

666
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<v Speaker 5>close to par. So because of that, they were creating

667
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<v Speaker 5>a year dollar crisis. And because Sofur wasn't yet the

668
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<v Speaker 5>law of the land, it was still in pilot program,

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<v Speaker 5>it was still in pilot rollout, so there wasn't there

670
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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a mature sofa market at that point. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we had a blow up in Sofur at that point.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't understand what it meant at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then, I had no idea what was going on.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just looked at it and I went, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's kind of like bear Stearn. It's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like the Repo crisis of two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 5>And in September two thousand and seven, and by March

678
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<v Speaker 5>of two thousand and eight. Bear Stearns is vaporized, right,

679
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 5>I said, the FED stepped in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're gonna get about a six month halo effect,

681
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<v Speaker 5>and then there's going to be a financial crisis. I

682
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<v Speaker 5>ever wrote about this for Newsmax and my blog and

683
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<v Speaker 5>the Newswriter and everything else, and I said, yeah, by March,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll probably run out of that halo effect. And then

685
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<v Speaker 5>we're going to find out whether the FED is serious

686
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<v Speaker 5>about what's going on or not, and they're gonna have

687
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<v Speaker 5>to do something about this. And if they haven't fixed anything,

688
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<v Speaker 5>then we're gonna have another crisis.

689
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<v Speaker 3>And lo and behold.

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<v Speaker 5>You know you wanted a miracle, I give you CoV

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<v Speaker 5>ID right, and thing go and we have a financial crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>We can lock up the oil markets, which then lock

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<v Speaker 5>up the treasury markets, which then then and then gives

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<v Speaker 5>us the Cares Act, and then you know history. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the JP Morgan was the start there

696
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<v Speaker 5>to start the decoupling process of European and American banking

697
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<v Speaker 5>institutions in in their and their relationships back then in

698
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<v Speaker 5>anticipation of SOFI going alive and JET for all US

699
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<v Speaker 5>debt and January twenty twenty two, which is why twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one was so contentious, as the Biden administration tried

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<v Speaker 5>to push Build Back Better and the Infrastructure Bill and

702
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 5>everything else through in order to tie, in order to

703
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<v Speaker 5>tie the Fed's hands and keep them at the zero bound.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why Biden played games with Powell's reappointment. It's

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<v Speaker 5>why there was the insider trading scandal that fall right

706
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 5>and that plays right into all finance and all the

707
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 5>Libertarians who hate the FED and hate Powell and everything

708
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 5>else like we all got used as friggin as freaking

709
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<v Speaker 5>newsfol idiots like.

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<v Speaker 3>All of us got used on that.

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<v Speaker 5>And at that point I was jacking out because I

712
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 5>could see the play. I could see that because I

713
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<v Speaker 5>had already made the I had already begun the process

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<v Speaker 5>of thinking, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Powell's doing what they don't want him to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Why is he tightening monetary policy in the United States,

717
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 5>And like, what's going on here?

718
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 3>And why are they all angry with him? And why

719
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 3>are they doing this?

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00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 5>And why are they lying about the Build Back Better Bill?

721
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 5>And why and why is policy trying to tie three

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<v Speaker 5>all three of these votes together when he she could

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00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 5>easily pass them individually, right and so, and then when

724
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<v Speaker 5>the inside of trading scandle hit, I'm like, ah, no,

725
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 5>they're going after Powell because he wants to raise rates.

726
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:31.079
<v Speaker 5>And then Biden goes runs Powell out until his term ends, right,

727
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<v Speaker 5>and then the FMC votes Powell chair pro tem until

728
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<v Speaker 5>chair until reappointment until a reappointment vote, which then ties

729
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 5>Biden's hands. He has to put Powell up for reconfirmation.

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<v Speaker 5>He wins eighty twenty in late February. At the very

731
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<v Speaker 5>next meeting, pelle starts raising rates right boom.

732
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<v Speaker 3>And then that's his because because.

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<v Speaker 1>He had he had autonomy again.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he had autonomy to do what he needed to do.

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<v Speaker 5>And but it, you know, it was just it was

736
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<v Speaker 5>a very tense, like six month period where Obama and

737
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<v Speaker 5>Biden and well Obama really and Davos were trying to

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<v Speaker 5>take control of the of you know, get control of

739
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<v Speaker 5>the of the of the FED in order to leave

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<v Speaker 5>us at the zero bound forever and newter the FED

741
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 5>and destroy the country. That was the moment now during

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<v Speaker 5>that time, and what I said was, Okay, if I'm

743
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 5>right about this, then someone in the Senate is going

744
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<v Speaker 5>to oppose this bill, and they're gonna have the ability,

745
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna have somebody standing on their shoulder saying it's okay,

746
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 5>Joe Manchin, It's okay, kirston Cinema. You can oppose this

747
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 5>because they're not going to kill your children. They're not

748
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<v Speaker 5>going to kill you. Why because we're fucking JP Morgan

749
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 5>and where the deal and where the patriots within the

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<v Speaker 5>DoD and this is what you're going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

752
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that was my read then and

753
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I was right about it.

754
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<v Speaker 5>And I think this thing started when Trump first came

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00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 5>to office in twenty seventeen to get so started, and

756
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 5>then it's been it's been just assiduously brick by brick,

757
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 5>block by block, all the way down the line. And

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<v Speaker 5>the most powerful of the money center. And the reason

759
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 5>why the money center US banks would go along with

760
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 5>would hatch this plan is because Davos's plan is to

761
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<v Speaker 5>do away with commercial banking and move everybody onto a

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<v Speaker 5>central bank digital currency.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like fuck that. They're like you like, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take away my golden goose. You out

765
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>of your mind? Uh no, I could? I can understand

766
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<v Speaker 1>the the difference in interest. What I think is interesting

767
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>is the you know, the the rush of Ukraine war

768
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<v Speaker 1>and the response from you know, NATO. Basically the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>administration or you know, Obama term three administration was was

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<v Speaker 1>in lockstep with with NATO with those provocations. Obviously, Kamala

771
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Harris sparked much of it when she said that, you guys,

772
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<v Speaker 1>just the door remains open to Ukraine to enter NATO,

773
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and Putin's like, well, no, fuck it isn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go, guys, go across the border do the thing. Oh,

775
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 5>by the way, the Russians can do maneuver warfare if

776
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<v Speaker 5>they really want to. They've just chosen not to for

777
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<v Speaker 5>the last three years for this reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, So my read of it in the like,

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<v Speaker 1>the primary reason I ended up supporting Trump, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of your hypothesis, which I do find compelling, was

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<v Speaker 1>just that I think that he is less interested in

782
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing a hot war with Russia, whereas I felt like

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00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 1>we were very much on the precipice. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem as if you know, particularly after JD. Vance's speech,

785
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 1>which if anybody hasn't heard it, I did a full

786
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<v Speaker 1>episode on it. It was fantastic. In Europe, you know,

787
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<v Speaker 1>two three weeks ago and he just basically reads him

788
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<v Speaker 1>the Riot Act and it seemed to signal to me

789
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<v Speaker 1>that And I think that if your hypothesis is correct,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be very very likely that, in fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration does intend to leave NATO. Am I reading

792
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>too much into that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think. I don't think you are.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that, Oh, look, Macron wants to be King

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<v Speaker 5>of Europe. Has always talked about the the U Army

796
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<v Speaker 5>and becoming and France becoming the you know, the new France,

797
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<v Speaker 5>and Germany becoming the new you know, military industrial accomplix

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<v Speaker 5>for Europe. So the question then is, you know, will

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<v Speaker 5>American in military industrial you know interests, what are they

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<v Speaker 5>going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>If Trump is offering them, Hey, we need to rebuild

803
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 5>our military. Here, I mean, Trump like, let's let's let's

804
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 5>just store something out there. Trump is talking about the

805
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 5>amount of money that we've thrown at Ukraine. He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>we could have rebuilt the entire navy with that money, right,

807
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 5>the whole.

808
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Navy needs a refit.

809
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 5>We could have refit the entire existing US Navy, which

810
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 5>needs a refit badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So just him throwing that's the that's the that's

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<v Speaker 5>that's a bond mob.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, we'll throw the money at the at Grumman and Northrop.

816
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>You're still going to get paid. Stop lobbying my fucking congressman.

817
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 5>And stop and stop trying to gin up a war

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<v Speaker 5>with China for the purposes of being able to sell

819
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 5>the next generation weapons.

820
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 3>We're still going to have next generation weapons.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't need to have a war with Russia or

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<v Speaker 5>China or even the threat thereup. The real problem is

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<v Speaker 5>we have to get the money to stop flowing into

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<v Speaker 5>Europe to destabilize our country because they're using our taxpayer

825
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<v Speaker 5>money against us. And I think that's been the story

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<v Speaker 5>of the first three months or two and a half

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<v Speaker 5>months of this trumpetministration is look, we're you guys, are

828
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<v Speaker 5>American taxpayers are being ripped off, and your money is

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<v Speaker 5>going overseas to destroy your home. And it's being done

830
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<v Speaker 5>by our allies, are supposedly friends and allies, including the

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<v Speaker 5>Canadians to not Canadian people, the Canadians.

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<v Speaker 3>The leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I understand, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And so just to make it abundantly clear, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the certain level of that is. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, Trump wants an end of the war with Russia.

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<v Speaker 5>They just had an hour and a half phone call today.

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<v Speaker 5>It was, you know, cordial, and they have a framework.

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<v Speaker 5>And I love what I heard from from Putin. He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be happy to stop bombing the energy infrastructure of Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 5>which is real, that's taking pressure off the civilian population.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, and let's have a thirty day season. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>stop doing that. You don't move any material for thirty days,

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<v Speaker 5>We'll stop the fighting, and let's sit down and have

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<v Speaker 5>a framework and have a talk. Right, That's a perfectly

846
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<v Speaker 5>reasonable opening gambit for structured talks around Ukraine. So I

847
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 5>like what I see out of Out of that, I

848
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 5>think the US, I think the Russian I think the

849
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 5>Trump Putin thing. I think they've already decided on what

850
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 5>the deal is. I'll be honest with you. I think

851
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 5>I think they came to that conclusion last year.

852
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I was theorizing exactly that. And the reason I was

853
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.760
<v Speaker 1>theorizing it just last night actually was that that Putin

854
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't intervene on behalf of SOD and I thought I

855
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>thought that was very interesting, because I mean, they're they're

856
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>one of their top allies. The whole reason that Asad

857
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 1>had had survived that civil war as long as he

858
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 1>did is because of Russian support. And suddenly in twenty

859
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>four to forty eight hours, it's just like it's over

860
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 1>and he's gone, and he's on a plane to Russia.

861
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, all right, that that feels like a

862
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 1>back room deal to me. Yeah, you know, maybe it's not.

863
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just it just fell apart.

864
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 5>But you're no, I think you're I think you're on.

865
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 5>I think you're you know, it's funny. That is one read,

866
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 5>and I tried to go a little deeper on that.

867
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.880
<v Speaker 5>There's there's more to the sad story than just that,

868
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 5>because he's got deep ye to the city of London

869
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 5>and blah blah blah blah.

870
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:43.199
<v Speaker 3>So like God, you know, like Sirius, like Syria is truly.

871
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 5>The enigma wrapped in a puzzle, wrapped in up, wrapped

872
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 5>in you know, spaghetti.

873
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 3>I gets fucking regarded.

874
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 5>It's crazy how deep it is, right, And I've tried

875
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 5>so hard to try and map it all, and after

876
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 5>a while, I just like, no, I don't know, Like

877
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 5>when I know again, all right, Erdigan has moved in

878
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 5>to try and stay, to stay by the situation for

879
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 5>someone I'm not sure who At this point, I don't

880
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 5>The Israelis are both happy and sad about what's going on,

881
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 5>and like it's it's all a mess.

882
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.360
<v Speaker 3>The reality is it is.

883
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 5>But when you when you back out of all of that,

884
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 5>and then you have Erdigan Today, let's add one more

885
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 5>thing saying, oh, Crimea, we will never recognize Crimea, along

886
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 5>with the like why would Erdigan act like the EU's bitch.

887
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 3>On this one? This makes no sense? Why wouldn't he nacinate?

888
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now he's like aligning himself with Europe as as

889
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 5>opposed to Trump and putin what is he nuts?

890
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, but that's because he's ert again.

891
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 5>But he has always bigger plans right at the same time,

892
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 5>he may have actually probably, I'll be honest with you,

893
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 5>I can I can actually answer my own question now.

894
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 5>Er again makes that statement because he's in a very

895
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 5>difficult position politically for the first time in his entire career.

896
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 5>The halo effect of taking Syria is gonna wear off.

897
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 5>He's got still Kurdish problems, He's still got other issues

898
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 5>as well, because remember the SEF Kurds are now have

899
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 5>made a deal with with the Jolawni government in Syria,

900
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 5>and that makes him so yeah, I can see like

901
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 5>he sta has he has real he has real political

902
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 5>issues Turkey. So but let's let's just go back out

903
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 5>the thirty thousand foot level here, which is what I've

904
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 5>been trying to get it. Get away from all the minutia,

905
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 5>even though the minusia is important, and let's just kind

906
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 5>of back out and say, what do we actually all want? Well,

907
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 5>what we want is in Israel sufficiently neutered that it

908
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 5>doesn't have support from Western powers, and we wanted to

909
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 5>run sufficiently neutered that it doesn't have real, honest to

910
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 5>God's support from Eastern powers, meaning Russia.

911
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 3>And or China.

912
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 5>What you want is if they both want to be belligerent,

913
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 5>they get to be belligerent on their own, not without British,

914
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 5>French and American.

915
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Right. I think that's what everybody's been asking for.

916
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 5>And I think that Russia is happy to have a

917
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 5>strategic relationship with Iran in order to help stabilize the

918
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Russian southern border, and and you know Azerbaijan, Armenia that

919
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 5>area as well as Afghanistan, and everything else. Like that's

920
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 5>I think where Russia, Russia and Iran's focus wants to

921
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 5>That's where Putin wants their focus to be, not the

922
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 5>Middle East anymore. Trump with with his you know, Gaza

923
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 5>plan and all this other stuff, I know what he wants.

924
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 5>He wants the Arabs to come in and step in

925
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 5>and deal with the problem.

926
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right.

927
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 5>He wants the Arabs to take responsibility for the Palestinians

928
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 5>in a way that nobody ever did before.

929
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Which is exactly what Egypt. You know, they flipped out

930
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and then they offered that so.

931
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 5>Right exactly, and so did the Saudist And it was

932
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 5>the minute the minute Trump said no, I'm going to

933
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 5>take Kalaza, They're like no, no, no, okay, okay, okay, right.

934
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, well the rebuild, get the fuck out of here.

935
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Right well again, But you can't do that until you

936
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 5>get rid of until you stabilize, until you in effect

937
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 5>stabilize Israel.

938
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Now, the way you the way you newter Israel is not.

939
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 5>By necessarily by cutting off arms support or cutting off

940
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 5>this eid or.

941
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is.

942
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 5>Actually to take away their their their support from Britain.

943
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 5>And you do that by by attacking city of London

944
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 5>directly because Israel is a land based aircraft carrier for

945
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 5>the British remnant.

946
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Because hold on, hold on, this is this is this

947
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>is so counter to what everybody else feels about Trump,

948
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that he is that he's he's you know, Israel's bitch.

949
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And you're saying, you're saying he's trying to undermine them.

950
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 5>No, he's not trying to undermine them. He's trying to

951
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 5>allow them to stand on their own. But he's not

952
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 5>going to do so without But they can't do so

953
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 5>if Iran gets to have its access of resistance running

954
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.480
<v Speaker 5>around the region blowing shut up. That's why Hesbelin needed

955
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 5>to be taken out. That's why he bomb the who thies.

956
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Because here's the thing. What's left of the British Empire,

957
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 5>other than there are traditional relationships inside India, inside the

958
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 5>United States, inside Canada, all their colonial Hong Kong and

959
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 5>whatnot around the world, what's there? What's the superpower that

960
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 5>they have left other than my sex. It's the fact

961
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 5>that the British pound settles thirty percent of global for

962
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 5>acts and that their shipping insurance industry and their shipping

963
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 5>industry is where the bulk of the money. Why the

964
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 5>money flows through Britain, That's what Israel is. Israel is

965
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 5>there to protect British shipping and maritime interests in the

966
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 5>United States. Is there as the gendarme to protect that

967
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>insurance business out of the city of London. Now, does

968
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 5>anybody really want Israel to go away in that respect? No,

969
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 5>but we can't have them. We can't have London being

970
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 5>the center of the world anymore. That if we move

971
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 5>that from London to New York or Dallas or wherever

972
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 5>the New Wall Street's going to be in the United States,

973
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, we hold those perse strings, we

974
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.639
<v Speaker 5>hold the puppet strings, and we have really better relationships

975
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 5>with the Saudia's with the Kataris than everybody else.

976
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 3>And the British are locked out of that.

977
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And do you think that the means.

978
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 5>Also that none of these people, Europe nor Britain have

979
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 5>access to the vast Russian collateral that the resource pile

980
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 5>of the don Bass and Plush Russia represent, which is

981
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 5>how they're going to feed the cash flow after they default.

982
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 5>They need the default, but then have set up future

983
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 5>cash flow streams that they can issue new debt against.

984
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 5>And if they don't have Ukraine and Russia, they don't

985
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 5>have any collateral. Or if they don't have if theyn't

986
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 5>have a position in the Middle East, they don't have

987
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 5>any oil collateral.

988
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So now what right, Well, that makes perfect sense. That

989
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>was the negotiation chip that that both Starmer and Trump

990
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>were dangling to continue to keep aid with Ukraine was

991
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>was the rare earth minerals. So that that now makes

992
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>sense to me.

993
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 5>I think it's I think it's actually I think it's

994
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 5>actually the coal, the oil and gas under the blah blah,

995
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 5>and you know, the Russian uranium and the cause of

996
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 5>the Kazakh uranium and all the rest of it.

997
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>So and the timber.

998
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 5>And the coal, the punction and the tantalum, like all

999
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 5>the Fourth Road transition metals. Being an old chemist like

1000
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 5>I look at the I look at the fourth I

1001
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 5>look at those for those those those Fourth Road the

1002
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 5>third Road transition metals, and I'm like, those are the

1003
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 5>big ones because that's where all the metal argy, that's

1004
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 5>where all the metallurgical magic happens in.

1005
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>And everything else.

1006
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, So this is their last lifeline for for you know,

1007
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.199
<v Speaker 1>old Europe is basically to get those resources, use it

1008
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>as collateral to leave her up again, and maybe they

1009
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>survive a little a little longer.

1010
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 5>No, they no, they and then they use that and

1011
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 5>they also survive a little while longer if they destroy

1012
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 5>the United States in the process, if they destroy the

1013
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 5>rule of law, if they destroyed the culturally and everything else,

1014
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 5>and they get the United States and Russia into a

1015
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 5>hot war over fucking Ukraine.

1016
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Guess what, they won the Table on Humanity.

1017
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>No, that'd be huge.

1018
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Fuck that. No, not at all. Yeah, nothing gets me

1019
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 3>like angry or not.

1020
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.519
<v Speaker 5>The guys and so I saw this like four years ago,

1021
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Like I chatting with the Duran guys about this ages ago.

1022
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I was saying, this has got to end. The EU

1023
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 3>is the danger here.

1024
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, you and I you and I actually I've

1025
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 1>come around later than you, but you know, my read

1026
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>has been similarly that, Like, it's obvious to me that

1027
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the EU leadership, the political class, I don't know that

1028
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>they actually run shit, but the you know, the talking

1029
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>heads are are way more bombastic towards Russia. I mean,

1030
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like just just psychopathic, honestly. And that's why I've been,

1031
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, beating the drum to get us the fuck

1032
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 1>out of NATO kind of the same concept of this,

1033
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, allowing Israel to send itce on two feet.

1034
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 1>It's like, there's no malice here. It's like, I don't

1035
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>want you guys to all die in nuclear health fire.

1036
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to die alongside you, you know,

1037
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.079
<v Speaker 1>like if you if you want to act like a lunatic,

1038
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>do it on your own and suffer the consequences because

1039
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.039
<v Speaker 1>we're out. So yeah, I like.

1040
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Your and and take it once.

1041
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 5>You know, no, you're you're absolutely right, And I'm glad

1042
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.119
<v Speaker 5>that that we that.

1043
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 3>That we we have a meeting.

1044
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 5>In the lines on this because it's it's it's so

1045
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 5>very important point here, which is that we can free

1046
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 5>Europe in the same process, right, Like if we're offering

1047
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 5>our independence then translates to Canadian independence, which translates into

1048
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 5>European independence.

1049
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 3>Which is why trumpeting on Musk spent so much time

1050
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 3>on the campaign trail schmoozing Georgia Maloney in Italy, because.

1051
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Italy is part of the triangle, the Triumvirate, the three

1052
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 5>legs that make up the European power, France, Germany and Italy.

1053
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 5>France and Germany are clearly captured territory with the Macrome,

1054
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, operating as the as the lead man, and

1055
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.840
<v Speaker 5>the Germans now fully almost in many ways, fully subordinate.

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<v Speaker 5>I just said this afternoon. They want to they're nominated.

1057
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 5>The Germans are nominating Analyin a. Bear Bach, the the

1058
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 5>soon to be former foreign minister as head of the UN,

1059
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 5>as Secretary General of the UN, like, are you kidding me?

1060
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 3>This woman is this woman's a uh is a moron?

1061
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 5>She her she's the only thing she's qualified for is

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00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 5>getting fucked on only fans, like seriously, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, okay, I might watch, but you know she's

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<v Speaker 5>not she's not an unattractive in a kind of cougar

1065
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 5>esque way, in a German cougar esque way.

1066
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 3>But you know, like you know, you know, I have

1067
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 3>no filter, dude.

1068
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's ok.

1069
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 3>And but but it's Italy.

1070
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 5>That's the that's the key here, which is that if

1071
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 5>we've been talking I've been talking with Italians about this

1072
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes for years, Like where are the most

1073
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 5>American bases in Europe?

1074
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 3>They're all in Italy. There's one hundred American bases in Italy.

1075
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 5>The French are trying to take over the north the

1076
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 5>northwestern partability through the cheerity of clear and olive that

1077
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Matta Ellis signed off on the Italian the Italian president

1078
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 5>like so that the French have the right to move

1079
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 5>troops into the northern part of.

1080
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Italy if they need to, like like are you kidding me?

1081
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 5>Like so it's very clear that if Maloney can and

1082
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 5>that's why she's she always looks like she's one day

1083
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 5>she looks like one thing, the next day she looks

1084
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 5>like something else.

1085
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Like she has she's in a very very delicate position

1086
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.159
<v Speaker 3>because she has a very delicate.

1087
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:33.719
<v Speaker 5>Uh coalition government because both Lega and and fors Italia

1088
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:37.480
<v Speaker 5>are not are not a riable partners. You've got an

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00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Italian deep state, as I said at the beginning of

1090
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 5>the show, that's two thousand years old, that wants you know,

1091
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 5>that wants what Brussels wants, and she's fighting that you know,

1092
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:51.199
<v Speaker 5>we have so if so, you know, this is where

1093
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 5>her working with the Americans, and she was doing it

1094
00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 5>through Giuseppe Crzetta, the Defense Minister, during the Camp Pain

1095
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.239
<v Speaker 5>during their first two years that she was in power,

1096
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:04.119
<v Speaker 5>there was a lot of liaison and going back and

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00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 5>forth between the American military and Crosetta.

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00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 3>He was very important.

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00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 5>I didn't talk about this very much, but I knew

1100
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 5>what was going I knew what was going on. I

1101
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 5>was just watching it from a from I was getting

1102
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 5>fed stuff and I was just watching it. And uh

1103
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 5>and then boom when he he sent Elon Musk over

1104
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 5>there to schmooze and charm Georgia Molona.

1105
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 3>I knew exactly what that was. That was obvious. And

1106
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.599
<v Speaker 3>then she's a seapack.

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00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 5>And then and then every time anything important about Ukraine happens,

1108
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 5>she always votes the right way. Sometimes she says the

1109
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 5>wrong things, but then in the end, yeah, I'll send

1110
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.519
<v Speaker 5>I'll send weapons over there. And she sends old Italian

1111
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 5>tanks that don't work, like you know what I mean.

1112
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.840
<v Speaker 5>She sends Italian.

1113
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.519
<v Speaker 3>Artillery that has to be refit, that's literally non functional.

1114
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 1>And then you think she signed she signed into our

1115
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>alliance basically, oh absolutely.

1116
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 5>Because she understood that the only way Italy survives is

1117
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.480
<v Speaker 5>they make an alliance with the United States. But she

1118
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 5>can't get out from underneath Europe until Europe closed. The

1119
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 5>European Union has to implode. And so I was reading

1120
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 5>something this morning that one of my patrons found. Let

1121
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 5>me see if I can, maybe I can find it.

1122
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 5>You feel abuster for me. I'm gonna go look for this.

1123
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna read.

1124
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<v Speaker 1>I've got a question for you. Well you look so

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00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>my You know, my hypothesis has been that perhaps Russia

1126
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>is Ala or Trump and Putin are negotiating basically an

1127
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 1>ally ship where Russia is no longer a prize state

1128
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they come into the I guess I you know, we've

1129
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 1>always spoken about the Western world, but this would really

1130
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 1>break that paradigm where it would be it would no

1131
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>longer be the West, Europe and US. It would be

1132
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.199
<v Speaker 1>a Russia US alliance with Europe kind of in the cold.

1133
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

1134
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that the next step?

1135
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a I think it's a yaulta too,

1136
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 5>with Putin g and Trump carving up the world and

1137
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.639
<v Speaker 5>leaving the aunt of China.

1138
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, okay, ye do you think do you think that the.

1139
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 3>So this the one?

1140
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 5>The last point about this is you're if you're not

1141
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 5>sure what I'm talking about. My friend, my good friend

1142
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Alex Craner wrote a couple of great blogs sub on

1143
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 5>the substack about this very thing, projecting out a uh,

1144
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 5>I think you should if you have never talked to Alex,

1145
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 5>and I absolutely recommend talking to my friend Alex. He's

1146
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 5>he's he's an immense he's an immense partner in crime.

1147
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 5>I bounce ideas off of Alex. He and I share

1148
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 5>all of this. But the interesting thing is that now

1149
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.239
<v Speaker 5>Kaya khalis the current supposed Foreign Minister of the EU.

1150
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Not really, but she is. She's burned.

1151
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.519
<v Speaker 5>She's apparently burning all her bridges with her insane Russian

1152
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 5>the Russophobia and Russian escalation talk, and she's now out.

1153
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 5>She's not only you know, we all know about Victor

1154
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 5>orband saying no to you know, more a to Ukraine

1155
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 5>and everything else, but apparently behind the scenes, now Spain

1156
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 5>and Portugal have signed on in Greece is not going

1157
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 5>to be far behind. The important thing here is that

1158
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 5>it's easy to isolate Hungary because they're only one. They

1159
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 5>can then threaten them with, you know, taking away their

1160
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 5>voting rights and you know, making them stay in the

1161
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 5>EU but not giving.

1162
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Them any rights to be that. You know they can

1163
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>do all that.

1164
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 5>You start adding Italy, Spain, and know that, you start

1165
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.280
<v Speaker 5>adding four or five six other countries, forget it, it's over,

1166
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.519
<v Speaker 5>like you know, And so what you'll wind up with

1167
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.440
<v Speaker 5>is an EU that will still use the threat of

1168
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Russia as the means by which to do exactly what

1169
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 5>they want, which is to rearm and to consolidate fiscally

1170
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 5>and financially, financially and politically under the European Commission, giving

1171
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 5>them tax and spend authority to issue bonds right and

1172
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 5>all that stuff, and then collapse all the members central

1173
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 5>banks into the European Central Bank, which is their goal,

1174
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.119
<v Speaker 5>which is the other reason why you would want to

1175
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 5>move bare Bach up to the to the UN to

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00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 5>help facilitate that.

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<v Speaker 3>But what that means is that that's a whole.

1178
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 5>System that exists within the European sphere. Then no one

1179
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 5>gets a fuck about it anymore because it's now isolated

1180
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 5>on its own. It's no longer the centers of center

1181
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.360
<v Speaker 5>of power that it's been because without the United States

1182
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.280
<v Speaker 5>and without the Russians, without the Chinese showing any amount

1183
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:21.719
<v Speaker 5>of of of of respect for that that power center,

1184
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.199
<v Speaker 5>it quickly collapses, especially if Italy keeps If Italy then says,

1185
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 5>you know what.

1186
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 3>We're out.

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00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.159
<v Speaker 1>No, that's that that does seem to make sense, especially

1188
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 1>makes sense with them, you know, trying to push that

1189
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred billion dollars in defense spending. It's like, all right, well, yeah,

1190
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.719
<v Speaker 1>if you expect the United States to basically bow out

1191
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of the natal umbrella and you guys have to stand

1192
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 1>on your own two feet, yeah you better have better defense.

1193
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.159
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. But what I'm struggling with is that Trump

1194
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Trump has received so much in campaign contributions from the atolsens,

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00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.639
<v Speaker 1>from the Zionis cause it seems as if this activity

1196
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>would have to be greenlit by by Israel to some extent.

1197
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Are like, is there a deal being made where they say, look,

1198
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna fucking We're gonna flatten the hoo thies. We're

1199
00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna assist you with you know, dealing with Gaza, with Yemen. Uh,

1200
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 1>basically the entire, the entire alliance of Iran will be

1201
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.480
<v Speaker 1>so devastated that then you guys will be able to

1202
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 1>stand on your own and we're gonna part ways. Am

1203
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I reading that right?

1204
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm saying is actually Israel is good with that? Okay? Yes,

1205
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I think how the question is, this is what I want.

1206
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I want.

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00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 5>I want you to envision, imagine a de militarized one

1208
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 5>stretching from Saint Petersburg and Norway all the way south

1209
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 5>to the Gulf of Aden.

1210
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty big DMZ brother, think about it.

1211
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 5>Ukraine, Yeah, the Black Sea Turkey from a from the

1212
00:59:56.320 --> 01:00:02.719
<v Speaker 5>standpoint of are the Russians or the Americans going to

1213
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 5>right backstop the proxies in that zone, because that's what

1214
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 5>it's starting to look like to me. And it's the

1215
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 5>Europeans that are trying to like do an end run

1216
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 5>around it and provocate on the borders either with Poland

1217
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.440
<v Speaker 5>now wanting to you know, conscript everybody, and the and

1218
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.800
<v Speaker 5>the Norwegians wanting to play games on the border next

1219
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 5>to Saint Petersburg and all all this other craft like,

1220
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.679
<v Speaker 5>they won't stop until we remove them from the board.

1221
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 5>And the only way to remove these people from the

1222
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:31.280
<v Speaker 5>board is remove them from the board.

1223
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Financially.

1224
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.599
<v Speaker 5>You have to take away their money. You have to

1225
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:40.519
<v Speaker 5>take away their ability to issue eight hundred billion dollars

1226
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:41.960
<v Speaker 5>worth of debt at two and a half percent.

1227
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, it's just that simple. You've got to make them

1228
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 3>pay nine percent for it.

1229
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1230
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's that's it's it's that that's.

1231
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 5>And guys like Diamond understand this. Guys like guys like

1232
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 5>Mark Mark Karney understand this.

1233
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Any finance guy understands this. Of course, I.

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01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:05.480
<v Speaker 5>Sent clearly under stances like I have firmly come to

1235
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.079
<v Speaker 5>the conclusion that Scott besided, like, I don't care if

1236
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 5>there's a reception, yea recessions good, I might agree. What

1237
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:15.039
<v Speaker 5>happened is somebody from the fucking NISA's institute actually.

1238
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Like I show up like, I don't know.

1239
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I've I've enjoyed his rhetoric. I mean, I'm I'm

1240
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>always in the wait and see. I want to give

1241
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.800
<v Speaker 1>people a year or two runway before I actually judge.

1242
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 1>But you know, my I got very nervous obviously with

1243
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the incredible provocations in the show of force that that

1244
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was demonstrated yesterday. And you know, as an anti war guy,

1245
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'm not going to applaud the bombing of

1246
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the Hoothies or any any US military activity unless it's

1247
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 1>clearly in defense, and these are not. But I will

1248
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>say that I do understand the game plan that you're

1249
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.159
<v Speaker 1>laying out, and I do understand, you know, tactically why

1250
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.800
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense. And I guess just to kind of

1251
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.239
<v Speaker 1>put a bullet yeah, yeah, strategically, I can understand the rationale. Well,

1252
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.119
<v Speaker 1>what I'm what I'm curious about is, so say this

1253
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:05.159
<v Speaker 1>all plays out, how is the US and how does

1254
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Trump envision? Because I know Trump doesn't much concern himself

1255
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with the national debt. He may give it lip service periodically,

1256
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:14.280
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't much care. But thirty six trillions and

1257
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 1>almost thirty seven servicing that is a huge problem. It's

1258
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.519
<v Speaker 1>obvious to me that he's trying to beat down interest

1259
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>rates so that they can refinance the seven trillion that

1260
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be rolled over this year. What is the

1261
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>long term plan though, to deal with that? It does

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<v Speaker 1>he have?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think he does have a long term plan,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think the long term plan is that they're

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<v Speaker 5>when listen to percent carefully when he says he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to monetize the assets on our balance sheet, Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of assets on our balance sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been written down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero, so yesterday able to tokenize it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's not what I'm talking about. Okay, So get

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<v Speaker 5>get out of that headspace. Just get directly into the

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<v Speaker 5>book value. What's the book value of animore?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, yeah, you do up until well up

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01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.519
<v Speaker 3>until two weeks ago. It was zero because we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>add to do anything with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, so they're going to open it up zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing with our gold reserves, which are held at.

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<v Speaker 5>Eleven point zero point zero point or you know, eleven

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<v Speaker 5>point zero four billion dollars on the fence balance sheet

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<v Speaker 5>when they're really worth almost nine hundred million dollars an hour,

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01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, eight hundred fifty billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's some money.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, there's so many things. There's like we have assets

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<v Speaker 5>and where we really have assets? And then this is

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<v Speaker 5>going to offend every libertarian in the audience. I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to say it right right now. There's thirty two trillion

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<v Speaker 5>dollars with the homeowner equity and home own equity in

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<v Speaker 5>the United States at a loan to value ratio of

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<v Speaker 5>twenty of eighty percent, that's twenty four trillion dollars. We

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<v Speaker 5>have unfunded liabilities in social security Medicare that are enormous,

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<v Speaker 5>but we also have gotten the inkling about how much

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01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 5>money we're actually sending out the back door resource of

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01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 5>security that we know is fraudulent. Have you noticed that

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01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 5>the Democrats have been up upping their game in order

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<v Speaker 5>to try and stop those from getting into the two

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<v Speaker 5>areas that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are most important. Where they where we think.

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<v Speaker 5>The fraud actually is in grave detail, it's in social

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01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 5>security and medicare. Now, that's part of the unfunded liabilities,

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<v Speaker 5>the future liabilities, and the American balance sheet. What happens

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<v Speaker 5>if we find out that there's twenty five percent of

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01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.320
<v Speaker 5>that that's like outright fraud that's been going to fund

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01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 5>all sorts of other operations that we don't know about. Well,

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01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 5>that takes all That takes those off the balance That

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01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:37.599
<v Speaker 5>takes those off the future liabilities and the balance sheet.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the future value of the United of the cash

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<v Speaker 5>flow is in the United States, would call it different. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>we just start doing basic every day MBA cash flow

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01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.719
<v Speaker 5>analysis or balance sheet analysis and just start doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>You first, you fix the cash flow, which is what

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<v Speaker 5>those is doing right now, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it? So?

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<v Speaker 5>The continuer is why I was angry with Thomas Massey

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01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 5>over rightly with Trump over what he did with the

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01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 5>continue voting against the Continual Resolution in the House, not

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01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:04.599
<v Speaker 5>the Senate, where there was more than a room for

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01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Rand Paul to stand up and say and the virtue

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01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 5>signal that we shouldn't do this because they knew they

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01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 5>had Fetterman and five or six other other senators.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the house where we only have three seats when.

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<v Speaker 5>We should have had thirty time, we know they sold

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01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 5>thirty seats in the house, like, let's not kid ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>We have three seats.

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<v Speaker 5>And Massy was no mass he was brought in. And

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<v Speaker 5>Massey also knows that under a continuing resolution and under

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01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 5>recision and everything else, that money is allocated, but it

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01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.760
<v Speaker 5>doesn't need to be spent. Right, the money, it's a pile,

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01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:36.440
<v Speaker 5>it's a potential pile of spending, but the money doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>need to be spent.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Budget, the money has been apportioned and they and it

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01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 5>has to be has to be spent, or it has

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<v Speaker 5>to be you know whatever. So it's a fundamentally different thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I was.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you have to trust Trump not to spend

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01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that money.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. Now here's the thing. What I was told

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01:05:58.719 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 3>six months ago.

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<v Speaker 5>By people close to the transition team, so this would

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01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.719
<v Speaker 5>be after July thirteenth, was that they had already identified

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01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.360
<v Speaker 5>one point three trillion dollars worth the spending that they

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01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:12.159
<v Speaker 5>can get rid of and it wouldn't do too much

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01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 5>damage to the American economy. It would be a kind

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01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.480
<v Speaker 5>of reorganization that and then you'd notice that number has

1346
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 5>been bandied around a lot, by the way, one point

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01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 5>three trillion dollars worth of cuts this year for twenty

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01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 5>fiscal year twenty twenty six. But they needed to get

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01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 5>through the Continuing Resolution on March fifteenth. That was the

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01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:34.679
<v Speaker 5>That was the thing that they needed to get done,

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01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:37.639
<v Speaker 5>because if they didn't get that done, the whole thing

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01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 5>that they have mapped out would start would would start

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01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:45.559
<v Speaker 5>to collapse. So the Democrats trying to shut the government

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<v Speaker 5>down and turn that into a three month fight over X,

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01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:50.280
<v Speaker 5>Y and z, you know, all over all this shit

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01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 5>would actually start to derail the entire program and would

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<v Speaker 5>then it would be Trump version one point zero all

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01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 5>over again at a legislative level. So the Continuing Resolution

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<v Speaker 5>for whatever reason, I don't know all the details, but

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01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 5>this was really important to get that done so they

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01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:05.280
<v Speaker 5>can get it behind them and then they get start

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<v Speaker 5>working on all the other things that need to get

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01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:10.480
<v Speaker 5>done in order to cut all the spending, maybe not

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01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.960
<v Speaker 5>spend some of the money that they don't you know,

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01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 5>get you know, not spend all the money that's on

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01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:15.679
<v Speaker 5>the table.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, but the goal was to get to the three.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundred and fifty billion dollar deficit for fiscally or twenty

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01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:23.800
<v Speaker 5>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is that perfect? No?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it the move in the right direction. Yes, because

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01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.679
<v Speaker 5>all you have to do is sell to the bond market.

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<v Speaker 3>We're cleaning.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, we really are cleaning our fiscal house. The stock

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01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 5>market and the bond markets are are are future oriented.

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01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Speaker 5>They're not worried about today. They're worried about where you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be ten years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're absolutely right. And if you demonstrate that you are,

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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 1>even if you're still a profligate spender, but you're the

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01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.840
<v Speaker 1>most responsible major debtor on Earth. Well then and as

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01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the EU collapses, you see all of those funds flood

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01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.480
<v Speaker 1>into the treasury market in the US, which drives down rates,

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01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:58.639
<v Speaker 1>which allows you to refinance cheaper and.

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<v Speaker 3>More and moreover.

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<v Speaker 5>You also gives you the time then to start working

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01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 5>in Congress a proper budget, a proper new tax bill bought,

1387
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, new tax package. You go after the corruption

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01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:14.159
<v Speaker 5>in the IRS, You go after the corruption in social

1389
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 5>security and immigration and everything else, like how much money

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01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 5>are we spending on? How much money are we going

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01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.239
<v Speaker 5>to find out that we've been spending on Social Security

1392
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:24.479
<v Speaker 5>to house friging migrants in Minneapolis. It's gonna be a

1393
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:27.079
<v Speaker 5>lot of money. We know that they're using the Social

1394
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 5>Security this way. When Elon Musk goes out the other

1395
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:33.000
<v Speaker 5>day on Ted Cruise's podcast today, we have fourteen computers

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01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:34.920
<v Speaker 5>that we've identified where you can just like take money

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01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 5>and make credits and do the thing. And then you

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01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.560
<v Speaker 5>realize that we have three systems, one that collects the taxes,

1399
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.640
<v Speaker 5>one that spends the money, and the other one that

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01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 5>vaguely accounts for all the money.

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01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 3>And none of those systems actually are connected in any way.

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01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 3>There's no double entry bookkeeping being done on this ship.

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01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:54.640
<v Speaker 5>And you got to ask yourself who built that system

1404
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.800
<v Speaker 5>and why and does that and that system needs to

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01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 5>be rebuilt completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it really is interesting. Let me let me

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01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 1>play that clip for the audience if they haven't heard it,

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01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:05.119
<v Speaker 1>because it is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the big biggest scam portholes we've uncovered, which

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01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:14.039
<v Speaker 4>is really crazy, is uh is that is that the

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01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 4>government can give money to a so called nonprofit with

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01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 4>with very few controls and then that and there's there's

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01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:25.359
<v Speaker 4>no auditing subsequently of that nonprofit. So there's no so

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<v Speaker 4>this is way with the you know, Walkway nine billions,

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01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 4>Stacy Arams, Who's who's that They didn't give themselves extremely

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01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:35.560
<v Speaker 4>lavished like insane salaries, expense everything yep, to the to

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<v Speaker 4>the nonprofit, you know, buy jets and homes and all

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01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:39.840
<v Speaker 4>sorts of.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, live like kings and queens. Yes, on the taxpayer done.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, one of the biggest.

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01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That was the wrong one. I apologize, but he later

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01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.079
<v Speaker 1>on in that clip, he goes on to explain that

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01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:54.039
<v Speaker 1>they have these fourteen magic money machines, and it's like

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01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I knew about the one it was

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01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 1>called the Federal Reserve. I didn't know about the fourteen

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01:09:58.399 --> 01:09:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that you have.

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<v Speaker 3>On Well, yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>I you know, we all complained about the Fed, and

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01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.039
<v Speaker 5>then there's like this treasury sent fourteen times worse, right,

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01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:09.000
<v Speaker 5>and then you know, and and and so there's a

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01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.199
<v Speaker 5>so you know, like again it's like at the wrong

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01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 5>every time. It just seems over the last two years,

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<v Speaker 5>two three years, at the wrong moment Thomas Massius stood

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01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 5>up too like grandstand on the classic libertarian stuff and

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01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 5>the way Ron Paul used to at the exact wrong

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01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.920
<v Speaker 5>moment in time when he was when he entered the

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01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.399
<v Speaker 5>last time he entered his end of FED Bill. Did

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<v Speaker 5>you notice who didn't like go along with him on that?

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01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:39.399
<v Speaker 5>I noticed it was Rand Paul. Rand Paul was like

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01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:41.680
<v Speaker 5>the Feds doing exactly who we want them to do.

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01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 5>The interest rates are five and a half percent, like

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01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:48.239
<v Speaker 5>we we're cutting cut twenty percent off the fred's balance sheet.

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01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.000
<v Speaker 5>They're trying to do more like Powell's doing everything you

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01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 5>can to hold interest.

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01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Rates as high as possible, as long as possible, to

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01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:54.720
<v Speaker 3>get rid.

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01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 5>Of fucking Jenny Yellen and and and the Biden hunt,

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01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Like are are you not getting it?

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01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 3>Folks?

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01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.880
<v Speaker 5>And so I have to wonder whether you know, like

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01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:07.239
<v Speaker 5>at some point, you know, dude, I'm not here.

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01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, I get accused all the time of having

1453
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:10.319
<v Speaker 3>a massive ego. Maybe I do.

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01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:13.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't give a fuck, but I know full well

1455
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 5>that I know what a massive ego looks like.

1456
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:17.800
<v Speaker 3>And you get into an ego fight with Donald Trump,

1457
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna lose.

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01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 5>And you know, and I think we have to I've

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01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:27.079
<v Speaker 5>been arguing for years now that we are going to

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01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 5>watch this play out in order of operations. That's gonna

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01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.720
<v Speaker 5>make us very uncomfortable at times. You you pointed out

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01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:34.680
<v Speaker 5>to the bombing of the bombing of the MNIS and

1463
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 5>everything else. I'm gonna throw this out at you. Who

1464
01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 5>created the hoo thies, Who created Isis? Who created Hamas?

1465
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Who created this? Who created that? We don't know, but

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01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:50.800
<v Speaker 5>we damn well know. Wait, we damn well know. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean is not wholly like. Yes, everybody was involved.

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01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 5>We were involved, The Russians were involved, the Israelis were involved,

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01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:01.319
<v Speaker 5>the Quitaris were involved. There brett were involved. Everybody was

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01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 5>involved at different points in the past. Now, if we

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<v Speaker 5>have as Americans, if we have culpability with these groups,

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01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 5>then cleaning up those those groups is our mess to

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01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:20.119
<v Speaker 5>clean up. And that's what I'm not saying that's the

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01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 5>only way to look at it, but it is something

1475
01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:24.720
<v Speaker 5>you need to put in your quiver when you're sitting

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01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:29.600
<v Speaker 5>down having discussions about foreign policy. I get very frustrated

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01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.119
<v Speaker 5>by watching the knee jerk reaction from people who have

1478
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:36.920
<v Speaker 5>been in the foreign policy game long enough to know

1479
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 5>that shit's complicated, oh yeah, and then to take to

1480
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 5>take the kind of simple ab reaction of you know,

1481
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.399
<v Speaker 5>bombing bad look, Trump is no better than than than

1482
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Speaker 5>by like, really, Trump's no better than Minden. He's literally

1483
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:56.600
<v Speaker 5>on the phone with Putin trying to end the war

1484
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.079
<v Speaker 5>in World War III in Ukraine and getting rid of

1485
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.800
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of guys who are were built up to.

1486
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Threaten global shipping because that's what the houthis actually are.

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01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, they work for Iran and again Iran. He's

1488
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 5>also made the point to Iran specifically, let's sit down

1489
01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 5>and have a deal.

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01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.239
<v Speaker 1>But but you got to keep in mind too. But

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01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just to interject briefly, because I mean, it was the

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01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 1>it was the Obama administration in nine that that basically

1493
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 1>ousted salat or Sali. I've only ever read it. I

1494
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:36.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know what his name actually is. Uh, they put

1495
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 1>his VP in there. Then there's this civil war. It's

1496
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's like this is all this is all fallout

1497
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.479
<v Speaker 1>from prior interventions of the US State Department. I guess

1498
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the reason that it's so hard for libertarians or I'll

1499
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.920
<v Speaker 1>just speak for myself, so hard for me to accept

1500
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is that I have you're basically asking

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01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.640
<v Speaker 1>me to trust the New Guard and to believe that

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01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they're actually going to remedy these things. And it's like,

1503
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying you

1504
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 1>can understand from a logical basis why that's like fucking

1505
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:07.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to do.

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01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I dude, Like I had to look in

1507
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 5>the mirror many, many freaking times to go out on

1508
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 5>that freaking limb knowing who I am. Right, Look, there's

1509
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:19.279
<v Speaker 5>a fundamental difference between what I believe in my what

1510
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.600
<v Speaker 5>my personal ethos is, and what the reality of the

1511
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 5>world that I live in is, and and and you

1512
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.439
<v Speaker 5>know his libertarians, and I'm you know, I'm not quite

1513
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 5>ready to call myself post libertarian like some people.

1514
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 3>But I can see the problem now of like.

1515
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:41.640
<v Speaker 5>I know what I believe in, I know what I want.

1516
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 5>I want to I want to live by the nonaggression principles.

1517
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:46.520
<v Speaker 5>There's like everybody else. Really, at the end of the day,

1518
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.399
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot. I think most people would prefer

1519
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:51.800
<v Speaker 5>to live by that that ethos. But here's the thing.

1520
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 5>It's not a suicide pact. It's not a call to pacifism.

1521
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.000
<v Speaker 5>You know the name of the blogs Gold Goats and

1522
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.359
<v Speaker 5>Guns for a reason, Like, of course, right, we're libertarians.

1523
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 5>We believe in so now you have to start at

1524
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:09.039
<v Speaker 5>when you start working at the state actor level, and

1525
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.239
<v Speaker 5>you start working at these big trying to solve these

1526
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:16.119
<v Speaker 5>big freaking problems. Like I look around the world and

1527
01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:19.119
<v Speaker 5>I see nothing but mass murderers. I see nothing but

1528
01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:22.199
<v Speaker 5>people who I see pedophiles and people who have violated

1529
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:24.840
<v Speaker 5>children and traffic children and everything else. Like I can

1530
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:27.119
<v Speaker 5>really justify to myself under the non aggression principle that

1531
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.000
<v Speaker 5>every one of these motherfuckers needs to be like boiled

1532
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:34.479
<v Speaker 5>and oil and fed to plants. Okay, Like I'm not like.

1533
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:35.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

1534
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 5>Like, at the same you know, libertarian justice theories, I

1535
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:39.760
<v Speaker 5>for two eyes and a little bit of scaring, and

1536
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:40.600
<v Speaker 5>like this.

1537
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Is particularly freaking difficult here.

1538
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.159
<v Speaker 5>And I think that we sometimes, you know, and I

1539
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:47.640
<v Speaker 5>get the trust issue because I have it.

1540
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Like, and I'm not saying.

1541
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:52.319
<v Speaker 5>You shouldn't you should trust Donald Trump to follow through

1542
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:55.119
<v Speaker 5>on everything. I'm not saying you shouldn't be skeptical. Of

1543
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 5>course you should be skeptical, distrust.

1544
01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:57.479
<v Speaker 3>But verify.

1545
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, it means also taking the

1546
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:04.920
<v Speaker 5>taking a setback every once in.

1547
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.279
<v Speaker 3>A while and going what's the true strategic play here?

1548
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 5>And what is you know, you can have your you

1549
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 5>can have your feefees, and you should. But at the

1550
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.000
<v Speaker 5>same time, you know, you should be trying to illuminate

1551
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.199
<v Speaker 5>what you would think is the right strategy of going

1552
01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 5>about this, because here's the thing I was thinking.

1553
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I literally was.

1554
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.239
<v Speaker 5>Thinking about this in preparation for this conversation because I

1555
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:28.920
<v Speaker 5>wasn't sure, quite sure how it was going to go.

1556
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:30.560
<v Speaker 5>And I was thinking to myself, I'm like, you know,

1557
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.960
<v Speaker 5>we all lionized Ron Paul, and we absolutely should.

1558
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Ron's the same, He's a wonderful human being.

1559
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, Ron was never in a

1560
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 5>position of real power to have to solve the problems

1561
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 5>that he identified. He was always in a position where

1562
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.640
<v Speaker 5>he could be on his own holding up the principle

1563
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.720
<v Speaker 5>because the principles were so far from everybody else that

1564
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.760
<v Speaker 5>by him doing that was an illuminating process. It was

1565
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 5>a great thing for him to do. He created a

1566
01:16:58.159 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 5>great track writer. So the way he ran for president,

1567
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 5>he could then you know, leap frog into the world,

1568
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.720
<v Speaker 5>onto the world stage and now express what everybody had

1569
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:07.199
<v Speaker 5>been feeling.

1570
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.479
<v Speaker 3>And so, in no way mannership or form am I

1571
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:10.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to.

1572
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 5>For a shade on doctor Paul what I'm saying is

1573
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:16.319
<v Speaker 5>we never had President Paul.

1574
01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:17.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't.

1575
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>We don't think I think this, this is such, this

1576
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is such an important point because you know, libertarians tend

1577
01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:29.399
<v Speaker 1>to just so say like, here's the I know, the

1578
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 1>libertarian one on one principled answer to everything. And I

1579
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.239
<v Speaker 1>do know, I do know the one on one answer

1580
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:36.399
<v Speaker 1>to everything. The problem is is that we're in a

1581
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 1>four oh one world like this is a very very advanced,

1582
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>very intricate system with with dire consequences if you get

1583
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it wrong, and it's like so, you know, for me,

1584
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do understand the argument that you're making

1585
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and I and I am not opposed to being strategic

1586
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:58.199
<v Speaker 1>into having grace. I think for from you know, the

1587
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the broader libertarian movement, I think I have demonstrated more

1588
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.039
<v Speaker 1>grace to the Trump administration than most. And that's because

1589
01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I have seen signs of real progress and a real

1590
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>willingness to take the fight where it needs to be taken.

1591
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the USAID funding FORHSE was fucking enormous. That

1592
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.319
<v Speaker 1>was a win that you know, libertarians could have never

1593
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>dreamt up. So right, I'm I'm willing, I'm willing to

1594
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:22.760
<v Speaker 1>give them runway. I guess I guess my question for

1595
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.199
<v Speaker 1>you to Sorry, I'm getting an echo, let me shut

1596
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:29.680
<v Speaker 1>up for a second. I guess my question for you

1597
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:33.119
<v Speaker 1>would be that what would be a falsifiable like if

1598
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:37.000
<v Speaker 1>if he is to start a hot war with Iran, Like,

1599
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 1>would you go all right, there's something off here.

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01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't think he is going to start a

1601
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:42.760
<v Speaker 3>hot war with the Roun.

1602
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I think he's I think we're at the Let's watch

1603
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:49.840
<v Speaker 5>his negotiations with Putin because ultimately Putin is going to

1604
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:52.199
<v Speaker 5>have to step up to be the guaranteer of Iran's behavior.

1605
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.920
<v Speaker 5>And I thought this for a long long time. And

1606
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:01.800
<v Speaker 5>I think you know, the actions giving you know, fifth

1607
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:06.079
<v Speaker 5>generation airframes to the Iranians to modernize.

1608
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:08.399
<v Speaker 3>Their air force I think is a very important point because.

1609
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.119
<v Speaker 5>Now all of a sudden, Iran can defend themselves against

1610
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Israeli incursions into their airspace. Again, it's a counter move, right,

1611
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 5>And I don't see trump ammision about it, right. I

1612
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:23.439
<v Speaker 5>see Trump saying Trump's big tweet that you put on

1613
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:25.760
<v Speaker 5>truth social a couple of weeks ago about Iran. I

1614
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.239
<v Speaker 5>think it was exactly the right tone to have taken. Look,

1615
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.960
<v Speaker 5>we don't want war with you. We want you to

1616
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:35.279
<v Speaker 5>come in from the cold. Let's stop, let's stop the

1617
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:39.520
<v Speaker 5>process towards you getting a nuclear weapon, right, and let's

1618
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:45.520
<v Speaker 5>let's go let's get this thing parameterized such that everybody

1619
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:46.760
<v Speaker 5>can go forward.

1620
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:47.399
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1621
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 5>But it's not going to happen with everybody just saying, oh,

1622
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.079
<v Speaker 5>you see, I'm going to like turn.

1623
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Into a pussy cat and go away. That doesn't work

1624
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 3>that way.

1625
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:55.840
<v Speaker 5>It's not gonna work that way with the Ron, It's

1626
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 5>not certainly not going to work that way with the

1627
01:19:57.119 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 5>who the Easer, with the remnants devices, or any of

1628
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 5>the other people that we've that we've radicalized in this respect,

1629
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:07.199
<v Speaker 5>especially knowing full well that they can be re armed

1630
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:15.760
<v Speaker 5>and reactivated by Europe. And I six like, if we

1631
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:19.479
<v Speaker 5>don't take away the other sources of potential funding, then

1632
01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:22.920
<v Speaker 5>whatever we do, we can go yeah, I see, we

1633
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:24.640
<v Speaker 5>you see, we were the good guys in this. We

1634
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:26.399
<v Speaker 5>backed off and we did everything, and then they just

1635
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:27.640
<v Speaker 5>come right in and go again, well, how much do

1636
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:28.600
<v Speaker 5>you need a couple million dollars?

1637
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 3>We printed that yesterday.

1638
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.479
<v Speaker 5>Here you go go blow up, go started, you know,

1639
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 5>go blow up a thing and and piss the Israelis off.

1640
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Like all of a sudden, it's it, you know, and

1641
01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't end. I mean, I've been.

1642
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:44.760
<v Speaker 5>Watching the Israeli internal situation for years the same way

1643
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:48.319
<v Speaker 5>I watched the British internal situations. Anybody noticed that every

1644
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:50.439
<v Speaker 5>like every eighteen months the British have an election, and

1645
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:53.119
<v Speaker 5>every eighteen months a couple of months later, the Israelis

1646
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 5>have one. Like Davos versus the British remnant is real

1647
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.880
<v Speaker 5>both in the UK as it is is in Israel,

1648
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.279
<v Speaker 5>and they map, and various factions map the different people.

1649
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:08.119
<v Speaker 5>The French want access to Iranian Ron's oil.

1650
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.279
<v Speaker 3>That's remember. Go back to the j c p O

1651
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.239
<v Speaker 3>A j c p O A sign, Go to.

1652
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:14.479
<v Speaker 1>My pillow dot com, use promo code lockdown and get

1653
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you some cozy Uh. We're gonna have Tom Loong go

1654
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.279
<v Speaker 1>back in here in just a second. But in the meantime,

1655
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:21.319
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have the Giza sheets, if you don't

1656
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>have the coziest pillows in all the lands, if you

1657
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have the smiling visage of Mike Lindell in your life,

1658
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you doing? My pillow dot com

1659
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>promo code lockdown and he's back. That's how that's how

1660
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you do a fucking Reid brother.

1661
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:41.239
<v Speaker 5>You get I get, I get passed from satellite to

1662
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:43.920
<v Speaker 5>satellite on starlink until you get to like doing in

1663
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 5>the middle of I think what I was, I don't

1664
01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 5>know where we lost obvious you froze at the j

1665
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:50.479
<v Speaker 5>c p o A.

1666
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:51.840
<v Speaker 3>So what I was gonna say.

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01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:53.039
<v Speaker 5>What I was saying was that when the j c

1668
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:54.600
<v Speaker 5>p o A was signed, who was the first country

1669
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.079
<v Speaker 5>to go in and sign a big deal with Iran

1670
01:21:58.199 --> 01:21:58.720
<v Speaker 5>oil deal?

1671
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Frank it was okay, took out.

1672
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:03.920
<v Speaker 3>They four point two billion.

1673
01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.079
<v Speaker 5>I'll never forget a four point two billion dollar deal

1674
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 5>with the Totel was Who's the first person who had

1675
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:12.680
<v Speaker 5>to sell their contract? Went from mixed it like three

1676
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:15.159
<v Speaker 5>years later, Totel they had to sell to the Russians.

1677
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 5>They sold them wund up selling it to either GA.

1678
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:21.960
<v Speaker 5>So they they don't have any collateral, they have any energy,

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01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:26.680
<v Speaker 5>they don't they they their machinations, Europe's maschinations and their

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01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 5>fingers are all over the Middle East as well as

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01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 5>the British And you have to realize that.

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01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.079
<v Speaker 3>And that's part of the reason.

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01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:41.399
<v Speaker 5>Why the classically you know, neo conservatives were so against

1684
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 5>the JCPOA. It was because it wasn't just because of

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01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, well, then it would keep allow Iran to

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01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:50.399
<v Speaker 5>continue getting a nuclear weapon.

1687
01:22:50.439 --> 01:22:51.479
<v Speaker 3>It was about getting.

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01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Iran the money from Europe who needed the alternate sources

1689
01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:58.600
<v Speaker 5>of energy because they wanted to go to war with

1690
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Russia and cut off the Russian get the Russian pipelines.

1691
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:07.800
<v Speaker 5>They wanted to replace those flows with pipelines from Saudi Arabia, Iran, YadA, YadA, YadA,

1692
01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 5>and through Turkey and into the southern Europe and then

1693
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 5>cut the United States out and cut the Russians out,

1694
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:18.199
<v Speaker 5>and you know, and as well in many ways cut

1695
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 5>the British out because now they would be the king

1696
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:21.800
<v Speaker 5>makers in the region.

1697
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.960
<v Speaker 3>And it would also send the money.

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01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.399
<v Speaker 5>I would also allow the money to flow in supporting

1699
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 5>my now that I think about it, supporting the point

1700
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:30.760
<v Speaker 5>in it earlier that if we pull out, then Europe

1701
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:32.840
<v Speaker 5>will just turn right about right right around, and you know,

1702
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 5>and support Hesboala or the who'sies or whomever.

1703
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:38.119
<v Speaker 3>So you've got to get rid of all of.

1704
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:41.600
<v Speaker 5>It, you know, And the way you do that is

1705
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:46.359
<v Speaker 5>by drying up the insane amounts of money that we've

1706
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:50.199
<v Speaker 5>been sending around the world. Through proxies and then and

1707
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:52.399
<v Speaker 5>and drop and dropping into Europe and in Canada and

1708
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:53.079
<v Speaker 5>other places.

1709
01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 3>It just needs to end. We need to pull back.

1710
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:56.880
<v Speaker 5>If we do that, then we're gonna we're gonna get

1711
01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:00.439
<v Speaker 5>much closer to what the libertarians, the classic libertarians actually want.

1712
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:02.800
<v Speaker 3>But that may mean that may.

1713
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Mean a war in some way against proxies for the

1714
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:07.439
<v Speaker 5>next year or two.

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01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's true, It definitely could. And I think

1716
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>what concerns me is that, you know, Trump's rhetoric is

1717
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>fairly anti war ninety five percent of the time, and

1718
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:20.239
<v Speaker 1>then five percent of the time it's like, I'm gonna

1719
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking blow you to smithereens. And you know, I do

1720
01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>understand the chartenistic type of diplomacy that he does, and

1721
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've also given him tremendous amount of grace

1722
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>on that. What doesn't make sense to me is like,

1723
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it's so obvious to me that it was not Iran

1724
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>behind either of the assassination attempts on him, but he

1725
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:41.279
<v Speaker 1>seems to be convinced that it was. Do you think

1726
01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that he is or is he playing possum? What the

1727
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>fuck's happening there?

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01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.199
<v Speaker 5>That's a good question, and I don't know. I'm going

1729
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.920
<v Speaker 5>to cop to I'm gonna cop to you. I can

1730
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:59.560
<v Speaker 5>construct versions of reality that are equally plausible. Yeah, on

1731
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:01.479
<v Speaker 5>all sides. Whatever, whatever you want to come up with,

1732
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I can come up.

1733
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:03.159
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think me too.

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01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that.

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01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>It's so it's so hard to read that because it

1736
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>is especially you know, if your hypothesis is right, then

1737
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I have a whole list of countries

1738
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that could be behind trying to take you out Trump,

1739
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and Iran's not at the top of that list. Uh.

1740
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's on the list, but it ain't at

1741
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the top. So it just you know, it's interesting.

1742
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And know what I was saying is it's it's funny.

1743
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.600
<v Speaker 5>It's like, I mean, how much is he you know,

1744
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:31.600
<v Speaker 5>he wants to deal with Iran and Israel? And so

1745
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:35.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, I can see him knowing that it was

1746
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:38.319
<v Speaker 5>somebody else, and then I could see him using that,

1747
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:40.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, using the convenience story of it being Iran

1748
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.520
<v Speaker 5>that way. I mean, he likes to quote the numbers

1749
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.079
<v Speaker 5>that the fake numbers about how many people the Russians

1750
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.000
<v Speaker 5>have lost as well. He does it why for rhetorical reasons?

1751
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 5>It plays politically. It it keeps the neo cons a

1752
01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 5>little bit of bay, you know what I mean. It

1753
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.560
<v Speaker 5>does it does play well in a domestic sense. So

1754
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.600
<v Speaker 5>like what you know, it's the same thing with the

1755
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.359
<v Speaker 5>central bankers. I don't listen to what they say. I

1756
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.039
<v Speaker 5>watch what they do, you know what I mean. And

1757
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Powls has a lot Powis has a lot of things

1758
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:10.079
<v Speaker 5>about inflation, but then he seems to not give a

1759
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.680
<v Speaker 5>fuck about it, and and like you know what I mean,

1760
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:14.720
<v Speaker 5>And then he goes out and everything he does is

1761
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:17.800
<v Speaker 5>about the fighting the euro dollar markets, and like, well,

1762
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:20.119
<v Speaker 5>that's the way, you know from my mind that well,

1763
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:22.640
<v Speaker 5>that's the way you stop inflation, because the money winds

1764
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.079
<v Speaker 5>up coming back after having been levered up and rehab

1765
01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:27.199
<v Speaker 5>opligated city onto one hundred freaking times and then comes

1766
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:29.680
<v Speaker 5>back to us and then as used to buy you know,

1767
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:33.399
<v Speaker 5>rent flash mobs in Peoria. Like fuck off, I'm over

1768
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:36.439
<v Speaker 5>this shit. Like it's so obvious what they're doing, you know.

1769
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I think I think that

1770
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:42.039
<v Speaker 1>your hypothesis is very very interesting, and I think we're

1771
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>going to find out if you're right over the next

1772
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.039
<v Speaker 1>year or two. And I'm very interested to see. The

1773
01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>one pushback I would have on the Massy case is that, like, sure,

1774
01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a decent chance that he's he's

1775
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>kept at arm length and he doesn't have a fucking

1776
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>clue what you're talking about. And and he's I mean,

1777
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>because like Massy is maybe not in finance, but in

1778
01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>every other realm, he's smarter than me. So like if you,

1779
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>if you were to read him into this stuff and

1780
01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>tell him like, this is what we plan to do,

1781
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this is you know x y z H, I think

1782
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that he would be more of a team player. I

1783
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:16.239
<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that he doesn't know what's going on

1784
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and that he's he's reading it the same way I am.

1785
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:22.319
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, look, you guys promised me the world December.

1786
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't have this fight. Now it's March. We can't

1787
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>have this fight. Oh but we're gonna have this fight

1788
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in September. He's like, fuck, you know, we're not. We're

1789
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:29.079
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have the fight when we get closer to

1790
01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the midterms. You're just lying. So I don't know that's

1791
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:33.239
<v Speaker 1>how I read it, but maybe.

1792
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 5>Fair enough, And that's fine. I'm just I'm I'm you know,

1793
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:41.199
<v Speaker 5>it's funny. I'm just at the point now where I

1794
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.159
<v Speaker 5>just so distrust like I don't even trust Hovy real,

1795
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.159
<v Speaker 5>like I never trusted the BAK. I don't trust me,

1796
01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't trust any of these guys. And

1797
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:52.960
<v Speaker 5>I and you know, maybe mass is on the outside.

1798
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.560
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he is, I don't know. And but I could

1799
01:27:56.560 --> 01:28:00.960
<v Speaker 5>have swore that I've I've been told, or I I

1800
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 5>don't have been told, or I've had a conversation with

1801
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 5>people who would be in a position to know, Like, no,

1802
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 5>he's been briefed and he's just decided to play his

1803
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:08.520
<v Speaker 5>to play his game.

1804
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>And that's possible to I mean, he is a politician,

1805
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>So like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna assume that

1806
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>he's he's pure as the driven snow or anything, but

1807
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, if he is playing the game,

1808
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>if he's playing the politician game to play the outsider,

1809
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>to get popular support while he's doing it smart because

1810
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>people like, yeah, he's he's had people like me running

1811
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>cover for him twenty four to seven. But I think

1812
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.079
<v Speaker 1>it's also important to have, you know, even if even

1813
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>if he is just doing that, I think it's kind

1814
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of in the rom Paul Vein of like having that

1815
01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:40.439
<v Speaker 1>figurehead that like says this is the right thing to do,

1816
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:44.399
<v Speaker 1>even if you know strategically it probably isn't. So it's

1817
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:49.119
<v Speaker 1>an interesting it's an interesting you know, principal versus strategicy debate.

1818
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:51.640
<v Speaker 5>Well they got any other thing is remember that you're

1819
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 5>dealing with Donald Trump and he's still treating the Desantas

1820
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:59.359
<v Speaker 5>team like a bunch of fucking traders, even though DeSantis

1821
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 5>is one of his best allies and he's done everything

1822
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:06.319
<v Speaker 5>imaginable since then to support everything he's done so far

1823
01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:08.439
<v Speaker 5>at the state level that you know Trump is doing

1824
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:11.039
<v Speaker 5>at the UH at the national level. I don't think

1825
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:13.760
<v Speaker 5>it's you know, we're both Flordians. Like I look at

1826
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.119
<v Speaker 5>toront DeSantis and I'm like and I I'm you know,

1827
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.479
<v Speaker 5>and my partner Dexter right and gold got some guns.

1828
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:21.520
<v Speaker 5>He's also a Floridian, and he's like, I remember, you know,

1829
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.439
<v Speaker 5>you know, saying to them, well, you know, come on,

1830
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:25.239
<v Speaker 5>like it's not like the Florida government has all that

1831
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:27.000
<v Speaker 5>much power and is the Santa has really done anything

1832
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 5>blah blah bla. And he's looking at me like, dude,

1833
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.359
<v Speaker 5>I've been living here my entire freaking life. I've watched

1834
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 5>a lot of Republican senators come and go and no

1835
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.960
<v Speaker 5>one has made has has whipped these guys into shape,

1836
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.640
<v Speaker 5>like like the Santas has and you know, the Old

1837
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Boys Club up in Tallahassee is still fighting him, like

1838
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:42.079
<v Speaker 5>Big Sugar is still fighting him, and all sorts of

1839
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:44.279
<v Speaker 5>weird stuff going on. So you know the fact that

1840
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:46.640
<v Speaker 5>Trump doesn't quite you know, can't let the ship go.

1841
01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>That's on Trump. You know, that's on Trump. And you know,

1842
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>and to the Conservative Treehouse, the Sun Dance Group.

1843
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:56.439
<v Speaker 5>You know that that he's a you know that that

1844
01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:59.239
<v Speaker 5>he's a bush plant of this and that like you know,

1845
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:01.960
<v Speaker 5>go fuck off, like you know nothing about part of politics.

1846
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>You never have.

1847
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:05.439
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the truth of the matter is is

1848
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:07.520
<v Speaker 5>that we have a real problem that we have a

1849
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.079
<v Speaker 5>snake in the garden in the Trump administration. It's Susie

1850
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:15.000
<v Speaker 5>Wilds and you know, and and that's the again, this

1851
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:18.520
<v Speaker 5>is not for me really Why she's she's a very

1852
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:22.079
<v Speaker 5>important person. She fucking hates the Santhus and so she

1853
01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:25.399
<v Speaker 5>keeps that stuff, she keeps that antipathy alive. And now

1854
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.000
<v Speaker 5>you've got to ask yourself the question why, and who's

1855
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:29.159
<v Speaker 5>she working for you know.

1856
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Well, mister long Ago, thank you again. We had

1857
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>another another ninety minute foray into very high level shit

1858
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that I think eighty percent of my audience is going

1859
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to be googling just as fast as they're listening to

1860
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>figure out what the fuck we're talking about. But I

1861
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it tremendously. Go ahead and tell people where they

1862
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>can follow you and support your work.

1863
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you can.

1864
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.199
<v Speaker 5>You can follow me on Twitter at TfL seventeen twenty eight,

1865
01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:53.880
<v Speaker 5>which is where the worst version of me, a worst

1866
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:55.720
<v Speaker 5>version of this one, will show up every fucking day.

1867
01:30:56.760 --> 01:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>You can.

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01:30:57.079 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 5>You can sign up with Patrion of patron slash Gold

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01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:03.720
<v Speaker 5>can be market reports and private blogs, and I have

1871
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.680
<v Speaker 5>a private discussion forum and all the rest of it

1872
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:07.199
<v Speaker 5>for the patrons. And of course you can go over

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01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:09.560
<v Speaker 5>to Tom will Longo do I may or Goldcoats and

1874
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:12.079
<v Speaker 5>Guns dot com, which is where the podcast gets posted

1875
01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 5>and variety by the things, and if I ever decided

1876
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:17.479
<v Speaker 5>to write anything public ever again, it'll show up there.

1877
01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 5>But at this point, I'm so freaking overwhelmed and over

1878
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:22.600
<v Speaker 5>and and over scheduled that I don't even have time

1879
01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:23.239
<v Speaker 5>to write anymore.

1880
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<v Speaker 1>You and me both. There's no shortage of things to

1881
01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>cover and things to do right now. But it is

1882
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>a very interesting time to be alive. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>be the first to say I hope you're right really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, because I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 5>I just get up every morning, I a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a smirk on my face and go, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what it's like, you know, another day in trumps New America.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever that fucking means, I don't know, but right now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm enjoying the ship out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too. I mean it is super interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>I think whatever it is, it's going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>inflection point for human history. It could not be more important.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll continue to get to bring you guys the

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<v Speaker 1>late on my read of things. And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to support my work at liberty lockpot on X you

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<v Speaker 1>can subscribe there. I'll follow you back. Liberty Lockdown is

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Make sure you shared it around. Don't even

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<v Speaker 1>tell your fucking family. Just pick up their phone, subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to Liberty lock Down, hand them on their phone back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then force feed them the most radical ideas they've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard. In their lives. They're going to freak out,

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<v Speaker 1>but it'll be fun and entertaining. Thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. Please do leave a comment down below, like, Subscribe, Share,

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<v Speaker 1>We're out of here, Peace.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome, tune liberty lockdown pleas on your plot home, your

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<v Speaker 5>liberty ain't come.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's on holl It's where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 3>And where did he
