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<v Speaker 1>Front of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined us last week prior to the Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm bringing them on to brag. Sean Sayadsumer sports Sean,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Wednesday, buddy, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>It feels good. You know, it's not just about being right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the process, It's about the analysis. I do

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<v Speaker 3>feel good about you having to come on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Predicted that Eagles win. Certainly I think a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different and then most people would have expected in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of how it looked. But for me, it was still

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<v Speaker 3>a fun game. I'm not sure if it was for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, certainly you called it, and I wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you on to kind of reflect on exactly what you

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<v Speaker 2>saw and then talk about the game, how it unfolded,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether or not it kind of went into lockstep

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<v Speaker 2>with what you were expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it did in terms of the way that

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles defense approached the Kansas City Chiefs. Where the

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles defensive plans, it was not particularly complicated. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to play a bunch of zone coverage. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>make you make the right decision over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Just rush four guys, send zero total blitz is an

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<v Speaker 3>entire game. I mean that is Vic Banje the defensive

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<v Speaker 3>coordinators approach two games in general, So I could you

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<v Speaker 3>know how that was? What I didn't expect was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really Zach Bond interception that pick six from Cooper Degene

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<v Speaker 3>where you're making the play that I mean, Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 3>throwing that ball because you have no business being in

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<v Speaker 3>that spot, just based on how everything played out. So

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was an excellent example of the Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>really really just hitting the highest level of their people.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I think of our best defensive line play this

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<v Speaker 3>entire season, I mean, Josh what may have played the

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<v Speaker 3>best game of this career. So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>pretend like I would have predicted all of that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna depend like I would have predicted the final

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<v Speaker 3>score in that game. But the way the Eagles came in,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it is what we talked about last week

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<v Speaker 3>in kind of how they approached the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>At what point I've been asking all of my NFL

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<v Speaker 2>guests so far this week the same question. When did

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<v Speaker 2>you and again I know you predicted Philly was going

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<v Speaker 2>to win the thing, but while you were watching the

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<v Speaker 2>game out, what point did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, Okay, that's a wrap, they're not coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that when I started to get the thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, honestly, it wasn't until after the like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of middle east of the third quarter, because you go

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<v Speaker 3>into the half twenty four or nothing, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really really hard to come back from that. But

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes has literally done that before against the texting the

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<v Speaker 3>fears out, so I didn't want to count it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But you could start to feel it pretty early on

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<v Speaker 3>just I mean the first third down right, the Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>are making it really hard on the Chiefs. Cooper degen

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<v Speaker 3>is being super physical, kind of pushing around Travis Kelcey

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. You can start to feel it. You

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<v Speaker 3>can start to see it. You see even when Sae

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<v Speaker 3>Kwon Barkley is not brising off big runs, Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 3>just getting rid of the ball, playing super comfortable, playing

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<v Speaker 3>on time. Start to feel but look, I'm back in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of my mind, I need I need to

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<v Speaker 3>see double zero, you know, to coulet Patrick Mahomes out.

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<v Speaker 3>So really it was once you got in that middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the third quarter, I've had Devonda Smith touchdown. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, all right, I don't need to be silly anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way these guys are going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know you've already touched on the defensive game

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<v Speaker 2>plans schematically from Vic Fangio prior to Sunday, as you

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<v Speaker 2>and I talked about last week, Patrick Mahomes eight and

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<v Speaker 2>oh against Vic Fangio.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dig a little bit deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Did did Vic Fangio do anything different this time around?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it just kind of the classic schematic attack

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<v Speaker 2>that he always likes to implement. But he has the

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<v Speaker 2>horses now and Kansas City couldn't keep up, So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit of you know, some stuff was the same,

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff was different. They play a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a different coverage. They really, you know, prioritized having multiple

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<v Speaker 3>people watching Travis Pelsey, even if they're not in a

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated kind of bracket or a double team. And the

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<v Speaker 3>way that the pass rush was working, where instead of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being the fast guy running outside that offensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>they were running straight through those guys, and that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>closes the areas for Mahomes to be able to scramble

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. So I really enjoyed seeing that just

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<v Speaker 3>from an overall pass rushing plan for the Eagles. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was a good job. I mean, I actually

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like any Reid didn't do the best job

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<v Speaker 3>in the game where we can think of maybe an

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<v Speaker 3>example or two where they're getting the ball a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit further down the field. Obviously we have that drop

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<v Speaker 3>to Hopkins. Of course some of those touchdowns coming later

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<v Speaker 3>in the game. I would have really liked to see

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<v Speaker 3>him just literally the fact, throw the balls the outside,

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<v Speaker 3>make those cornerbacks tackle over and over because the way

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<v Speaker 3>that Fandia was playing, it would have required that. And

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<v Speaker 3>we saw I think the future down thirty four nothing

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<v Speaker 3>by this time. But you know, zabywhere that you catch

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<v Speaker 3>a quick throw when on Mitchell Tantathle you you able

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<v Speaker 3>to get yards. I think, you know, maybe turning that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit earlier would have not won the game,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it would have made it a bit closer.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to follow up, even though you just alluded

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<v Speaker 2>to my follow up question, did you see because one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why I picked Kansas City in a

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<v Speaker 2>close one like most of America, is Andy and Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically figured out.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Reid makes the adjustments, Mahomes finds a way to win,

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<v Speaker 2>did at any point outside of what you just alluded to,

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<v Speaker 2>because look, you know a lot of people say, well they.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't run the football.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're down big, so you've got to get chunk

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<v Speaker 2>plays and you have to rely on a generational talent

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<v Speaker 2>in Patrick Mahomes. But was there anything specifically, Sean that

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<v Speaker 2>you saw Kansas City tried to do that simply just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it felt like every single thing that they

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<v Speaker 3>were really trying to do didn't work. Where you can't

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<v Speaker 3>throw the ball picked because the defensive is really good

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<v Speaker 3>and coverage, you can't throw the ball in your immediate

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<v Speaker 3>because guys are dropping passes. You can't throw the ball

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<v Speaker 3>deep because your offensive line is not holding up enough

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<v Speaker 3>from a home to be able to take that extra

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<v Speaker 3>step and let that thing flock. So it really felt

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<v Speaker 3>like none of that was able to work at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned, yeah, it would be nice if you

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<v Speaker 3>could run the ball. You know, there's a clip of

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<v Speaker 3>Nolan Smith putting Tray Smith like on his are really

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<v Speaker 3>pushing him far back. I mean, the Eagles were more

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<v Speaker 3>physical than the Chiefs were upfront. They really were able

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<v Speaker 3>to push them around. I'm not really sure if any

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<v Speaker 3>plan would have worked on that day, it felt like

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles really came in so lost into every single

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<v Speaker 3>thing that the Chiefs were doing. So I'm not even

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<v Speaker 3>sure like you see some of those kind of second

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<v Speaker 3>a half adjustments. I guess you call them that for

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs, but I mean, when you're down that big,

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a big hell of the climb, and it

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<v Speaker 3>just felt like, you know, the team or the better

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<v Speaker 3>aster than top to bottom ended up winning. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move over to the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>What did Steve Spagnolo tried to do defensively? Because look,

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, over the course of their recalibration of just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of changing their approach A lot of it probably

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<v Speaker 2>based off personnel one a lot of games this year

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<v Speaker 2>based off of Steve Spagnolo in that defense, it just

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<v Speaker 2>did not do much of anything to provide pushback against Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>What did Spagnolo try to do and how did Philly

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<v Speaker 2>counter that to make it ineffective?

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<v Speaker 3>Spagnola, I thought, really approached this game in the exact

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<v Speaker 3>right way. Sakuon Barkley was largely shut down. I think

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at the Eagles how he's played the

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<v Speaker 3>entire season, that is what you want to start with,

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<v Speaker 3>and so for them to have that success is a

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<v Speaker 3>really good thing. Now, the problem is that Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 3>has had the best game of his career where the

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<v Speaker 3>best two games, or maybe two of three games in

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<v Speaker 3>his career have been this game and then the NFC

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<v Speaker 3>Championship game. So when you look at how the Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>looked in week eight, in week ten, you know it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't feel a Kirts was going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>do this. So I think the approach was really exactly correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And as you got later and later you are able

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<v Speaker 3>to get a blitz that ends up getting a sack.

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<v Speaker 3>But for Hurts to play at that high of a

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<v Speaker 3>level and really take everything that Stags is trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do and throw it right back in his face by

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<v Speaker 3>making those cliff throws, by turning some of those escapes

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<v Speaker 3>into throws to receivers instead of just you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>spinning around in a circle, you end up sack. And

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<v Speaker 3>for him to be confident and quickness process I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was super impressive. So I was, overall, you know, pretty fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's back as the approach. I think the bigger takeaway

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<v Speaker 3>its Hurts really really stepping up to the moment, what sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of because a lot of the conversations, certainly around prior

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<v Speaker 2>of people out about Nick Sirianni.

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<v Speaker 1>So I already asked you about the Jaalen portion of this?

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of questions did Nick Sirianni answer as a

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl winning head coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it is it's so fun to think about

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<v Speaker 3>just his story. Fun for me to think about it

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<v Speaker 3>from the outset. I can't imagine it was as fun

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<v Speaker 3>for him going through it. There was like legitimate, totally

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<v Speaker 3>like reasonable calls at the beginning of this year, like

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<v Speaker 3>are they going to bring Sirianni back? What does he

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<v Speaker 3>do for this team? After a week four, going to

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<v Speaker 3>the bye week, you know thoughts of all, right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's gonna get fired and being offensive assistance somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>next year where he's never going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get this chance again. I just think that there are

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<v Speaker 3>things that happen in an NFL locker room, in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL building that a head coach is responsible for that

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<v Speaker 3>it is unquantifiable. And you start to hear some of

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<v Speaker 3>the stories come out, whether it's where I writing his

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<v Speaker 3>handwritten note size Rodgers who mixed the season for a

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<v Speaker 3>gambling suspension, whether it's you know, talking to m Kobe

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<v Speaker 3>Dan after his injury and figuring out different things to

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<v Speaker 3>get him in the best spot. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>you think about the locker room overall. Obviously these are

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly talented players. There's still personalities right where Ajo Brown

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<v Speaker 3>had early in the game or earlier in the season,

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<v Speaker 3>he had said out loud and he said the correct thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like what's not working. It's the passing game. And so

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<v Speaker 3>for him to be able to navigate all that, for

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<v Speaker 2>So when you win, you're gonna lose coaches and you're

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<v Speaker 3>So they've been ready for this eventuality. So Kevin Patula

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<v Speaker 3>offense forward where look the way that Sayklon Barkley ran

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<v Speaker 3>this year, I think he's going to be fantastic. It's

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<v Speaker 3>based on variant think you're not able to hit all

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<v Speaker 3>like a guy like Key Martin, the quarterbacks coach in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 2>week kind of this similar question, because when you look

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<v Speaker 2>you know, guys like Lamar and Josh Allen and Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, And yes, they have some decisions to make

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<v Speaker 2>on other pieces, but the main portion of this roster

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<v Speaker 2>a hyperbolic radio host, but what are you willing to

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<v Speaker 2>say about potentially the type of I don't know, era

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<v Speaker 2>of Eagles football that we're in for. Should they be

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it really is looking pretty good, and I

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<v Speaker 3>at the way that Howard Rosenan that justin Laurie as

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<v Speaker 3>so smart. They do pay guys a little early. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to hit on some of those, right because

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<v Speaker 3>good year. If they're not good in that second and

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<v Speaker 3>third year, it really comes back to bite you. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Devonte Smith Adrian Brown are already under contract,

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurt already under contract. So to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>Jurgens like, you're taking care of really really core aspects

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<v Speaker 3>of your team pretty early. Their defense is spending is

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<v Speaker 3>not that high. So I'm actually very interested to see

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<v Speaker 3>what this offseason looks like for that where they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to probably lose mill and Williams. There's a good chance

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<v Speaker 3>they lose that bond. Darius Slave is getting a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit older. I think when I look ahead to next year,

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<v Speaker 3>I always think, well what about You know, a specific

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<v Speaker 3>to average, whether that's something that's not good or something

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<v Speaker 3>that's very good. It's so hard to repeat as a

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<v Speaker 3>top defense by statistics year after year. I love it Fandrio,

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<v Speaker 3>you know so much and watching this defense, I really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy going through this roster. You still have Dylan Carter,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the gene in year two, you have Mitchell

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<v Speaker 3>in year two. You have so much talent on that team.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes fifty fifty balls just end up at touchdowns instead

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<v Speaker 3>of interceptions or incompletion. So, you know, I just worry

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<v Speaker 3>about this the coin flip, and just appreciating how many

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<v Speaker 3>course you know the commanders and Jayden Daniels, they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>really going to be pushing. But this team is in

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<v Speaker 3>like a good financial health situation where you will see

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<v Speaker 3>things about people saying, oh, you know, like the bill's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna come due eventually, and you know that can be true.

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<v Speaker 3>Like player, they're gonna get a little bit older. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna happen for a little bit now. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>keep you know, you push that, you kick the cand

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<v Speaker 3>down the road. In terms of having to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that I just wish other teams would do that in

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<v Speaker 3>the same way. You know, teams just should, Like if

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<v Speaker 3>that because you're going to have to pay multiple players

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<v Speaker 3>can afford to not do that. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 3>see what the Eagles look like going forward. I really

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<v Speaker 3>just want to see gillen Hurt continue to grow. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly, it would be a fools out Aaron to believe

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<v Speaker 2>the Kansas City is done, you know, with their quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in his twenties and a transcendent generational head coach Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, maybe it's it for you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's it for him. What does the offseason look

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<v Speaker 2>like in Kansas City to ensure that they continue to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a big thing is going to be what you

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<v Speaker 3>do with that offensive lot where you had problems that

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<v Speaker 3>to get paid a lot of money by someone that

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<v Speaker 3>Kelsey whatever, even if he does come back, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>the same early in the season as he is later

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about what's gonna happen with Chris Jones, I

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<v Speaker 3>do think Chris Jones still has a lot of good

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<v Speaker 3>football played. And as you mentioned, it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>like bet against Patrick Mahomes, But what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>We got luck, not lucky or unlucky, but yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>happened in the Super Bowl. I do think they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to come back. I want to see this team though,

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<v Speaker 3>like get to kind of another iteration of their offense.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like watching Xavier Worthy grow over the last

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks we saw it, you know, in kind of

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<v Speaker 3>garbage time in that Super Bowl. This guy can run

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<v Speaker 3>by every single player on every single team, and Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>Maholmes can throw it exactly where it needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>in those situations. So I actually want to see this

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<v Speaker 3>offense get back to a little bit more of that

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<v Speaker 3>downfield attack as opposed to like, you know, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>So I will take advantage of having a smart football

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the show to ask you about my Jets

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<v Speaker 2>who it looks like they're going to move on from

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<v Speaker 1>So what's next for my guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a little hope, and not even hope for

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<v Speaker 2>next year because they're not going to be in it

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<v Speaker 2>next year, but maybe hope that there's a plan in

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<v Speaker 2>place that at some point they'll be a competitive NFL

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean even on the just at

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<v Speaker 3>they were able to make. I think Aaron Glennons desically

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<v Speaker 3>I really really like pen Rank from the offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>they have there, the work that he did in a

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<v Speaker 3>trot with Ben Jonson. I think that's the right direction.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a very talented roster, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>that the decision to say, hey, like Aaron like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have to have a year of Tyrod Hyler. Everything's getting insolved,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I don't want to tell you to not

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<v Speaker 3>watch football next season like there is. It can't. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a little bit of a tough ride.

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in the area, so I understand how

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<v Speaker 3>many times you have to hear like Jeff's rebuild, Jeffs rebuild.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you look at some of the hires

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<v Speaker 3>that they made up and down and even like the

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<v Speaker 3>senior advisors and things like that, where you're bringing people

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<v Speaker 3>gets me excited at that level. Now it really is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pend how things happen on the field, where you're

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just kick the tires with little offseason stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Big names that you think could be on the move.

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<v Speaker 2>I am curious as to your take on Sam Darnold,

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<v Speaker 2>who once upon a time actually thought was the answer

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<v Speaker 2>for my team under center. But teams out there that

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<v Speaker 2>are maybe a piece or two away names it could

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<v Speaker 2>be on the move and offseason ahead, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some of the big tradens. Of course, Kee

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<v Speaker 3>Higgens is going to be a big one if the

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals aren't able to figure it out. Tray Smith, as

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned though, I mean he's a really really good

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<v Speaker 3>guard from the Tone City Chiefs. I mean, those are

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<v Speaker 3>those guys I think the Patriots would have circle. Just

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<v Speaker 3>as you're trying to fill so many holes on your roster,

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you look at you know, DJ reads

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<v Speaker 3>from your Jets there's a chance that he ends up

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. Is he ending up in San Francisco? I

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<v Speaker 3>think where Donald ends up to be fascinating. He it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it could be a situation. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a Las Vegas, just a place where you

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<v Speaker 3>have the kind of holdover quarterback another year. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Sweat, you know, is it Arizona. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>guy like Milan Williams is coming off by Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>is the charger. Adding the agency is exciting, even if

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<v Speaker 3>there's not you know, one hundred names that you can't

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<v Speaker 3>wait to look at. But like Frezency, it's just so important,

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<v Speaker 3>like you want to fill your roster to the point

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<v Speaker 3>where you go into the draft and can actually just

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<v Speaker 3>choose the most talented player instead of choosing a player

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<v Speaker 3>and say, hey, if we don't, you know, hit on

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<v Speaker 3>our right guard in the draft, our team is totally foiled.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it'll be interesting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what teams are making, what movement in its patches to

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<v Speaker 3>move that happened, you know, immediately when kind of those

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<v Speaker 3>transactions are able to start happening sometimes a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>later in free agency as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Last thing, Seana Saidulers, give me the coaching higher you

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<v Speaker 2>like the most, and the coaching higher the left your

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<v Speaker 2>scratch in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this is this is a good I think

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<v Speaker 3>the easy one to point at as a scratching your

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<v Speaker 3>head one is Dallas with Schottenheimer at the same time, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do we expect Dallas to do? I guess anything that

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<v Speaker 3>would would be like a process that we would love.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not. I think that maybe there were a few

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<v Speaker 3>other names. I think that was more of a process

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<v Speaker 3>based one. I would have liked to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>interviews just kind of in different directions. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the ones that I like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson is an easy I really do like Liam

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<v Speaker 3>Cohen and Joson, But I think that one is a

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<v Speaker 3>fun one. I think it's the right bet to make.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a little bit biased. You know, you want

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<v Speaker 3>the young offensive coordinator type person to be running your organization.

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<v Speaker 3>I just still believe in Trevor Lawrence. I think what

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<v Speaker 3>Cohen gave in Tampa Bay with Jason Mafield and really

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<v Speaker 3>morphing his offense from a little bit more, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in their run game that really really evolved over time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that I'm excited about that now. I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of my favorite things about head coaching hires,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a chance that, like Schoenheimer, is the best head

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<v Speaker 3>coach that ever existed. We just don't know until we're

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<v Speaker 3>able to see it. So I'm excited for Colling as

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<v Speaker 3>a chance it doesn't work out. But that's probably my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite one where Ben Jonson, I think is also an

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<v Speaker 3>easy answer as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean, where can people go find your work? Bud?

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<v Speaker 3>You can follow me on Twitter at Science Teams and

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<v Speaker 3>just put out a little article just about a big

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<v Speaker 3>fan Joe, you know what he's meant to be and

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<v Speaker 3>my career and also just about his entire season. So

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<v Speaker 3>always appreciate the follow I'm gonna do a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>free agency stuff with Zimmer Sports to feel offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the time. Be well with

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<v Speaker 2>chat soon, Okay, so much appreciate it. Sean Saya joined

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<v Speaker 2>us last week. He was the one NFL guest we

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<v Speaker 2>had that was like, this could get loose man, Philly

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<v Speaker 2>could smoke him, and they certainly did.

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<v Speaker 1>So appreciate Sean Son today
