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starting lineup. Ben Prittle here. Appreciate Roddy kicking us off.
Let's welcome into the show as well. We got Brent
always reading the Hammer hammer Time Show. What's up Hammertime.
Speaker 4: I'm happy, happy to be here, happy you to have
heard from Kevin Young today.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling uh too legit.
Speaker 1: To quit over there. That's where you are.
Speaker 2: That's right, the the b Hammertime Show. Love it, appreciate it.
Let's also welcome in Brandan S. Gurney, the g man
by myself was a g man.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, doing very very well.
Speaker 2: You know what. It's gonna make you really well.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's gonna do the show for the next Yeah.
Speaker 3: I told you, guys. I told you guys he was
doing a special pickup.
Speaker 5: I told you this is probably the worst reason that
General Gifford is going to Michigan.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm upset about this.
Speaker 1: It's just banana pudding will not be partaken ever again. Yeah.
So I'm gonna really enjoy this.
Speaker 3: You guys better save me something.
Speaker 1: Really really enjoy this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see how many breaks us.
Speaker 1: Roddy works out for you.
Speaker 2: We got enough.
Speaker 3: Look, look I planned this show. I had to put
putting a lot of hard work. All I asked this
for some from some banana pudding.
Speaker 2: There are sick, that's what there's there's four of us
here in studio. Okay, we have one for Ronald.
Speaker 1: And the other ones for me.
Speaker 2: Well we got we got six.
Speaker 1: I get too.
Speaker 2: So I oh, yeah, to.
Speaker 3: See going to a baptism on Sunday and I hope he's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have an update on that.
Speaker 3: Oh, you have an update?
Speaker 5: Okay, the bishop found out about it and he cancel.
Speaker 2: I told you, what did I tell you?
Speaker 3: I told you this is why we never be allowed
to be bishop, because I would cancel. You don't have
a baptism on the Super Bowl? Are you crazy?
Speaker 5: They have a Yeah, mice, you don't know this man.
I talked about this last week. My sister, who cares
less about sports than anyone alive, scheduled her daughter's baptism
at the exact time as this as the starting of
the Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've never even been to an after.
Speaker 5: Foot four o'clock Sunday baptism. Send out the Google message
and all that. I'm like, uh, you know that's when
the Super.
Speaker 6: Bowl is No, I wondered why that slot was open.
So anyway, crazy debated how I'm going to handle that,
but fortunately a man of God, the bishop.
Speaker 1: Who was who was inspired, canceled the best that he's inspired.
Speaker 5: He's inspired, so anyway, it's two weeks from that is crazy.
Speaker 3: My point GM men when I mentioned the bishop and
the baptism was the tenth Commandment still applies. Whether regardless
of whether you believe is don't be greedy that I
should not covet to You cannot covet the bana, but
you cannot have to coviing.
Speaker 2: That's not a question.
Speaker 4: Like that's when I get to the other side, like
and God says, hey, Bishop, I just wanted to make
sure this is correct. I see here that you you
cancel the baptism because of the Super Bowl, Like what
if what if Jesus has what if Jesus is coming
on Monday. It's like, well, I had to move to
baptism the next Saturday.
Speaker 2: You know that, you know what it reachs man, Mammonrymon,
You're you're accusing the bishop of Mammon. I am Wow,
I'm siding with your sister here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am.
Speaker 2: I did. I did not didn't affect me. If it
would have affected me, i'd be with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought you guys were going to be totally in.
Speaker 2: My can effect.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a sports guy.
Speaker 2: I'll be in You're we're going the super Bowl and
you're going to the Baptist Well, no, because we're not you.
Speaker 3: It doesn't know it if it was.
Speaker 2: Your family, my family, My family would.
Speaker 3: Never do such a thing.
Speaker 1: That's a cop out, that's not a.
Speaker 2: Will that like it's like you know, you're asking me,
you know, like, what are you gonna sin? No, I
would never put But I want to know, would you
sin in this situation? And I'd say no, because I
wouldn't go to the party. I'm not gonna put myself
in that situation. I'm gonna avoid the the the appearance
of evil. I'm not gonna put myself in that city.
It's like, I'm not gonna go to the party, Like, oh,
like you're gonna go to the party where there's all
manner of laciviousness and hedonism. No, I'm not gonna put
my because I know I may be tempted to partake
of of Satan's you know, Satan's temptation.
Speaker 1: Conversation took a turn to that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not gonna sin. I'm not gonna
proactively put myself in that situation, nor my family to
to to decide whether or not a baptism or a
super Bowl.
Speaker 1: See, but you guys are well aware when the Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl is, aren't most Americans?
Speaker 1: My family does not know. Yeah, yeah, it's like the.
Speaker 2: Most watched broadcasts in the country.
Speaker 1: Will let me introduce you to the Gurneys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a house divided. There is intellect and spirituality, right,
those are the core principles. And then on the other side,
it's people who like and then there's people.
Speaker 1: Sports.
Speaker 2: So intellect is on the other side. So I'm telling you,
like the nerds, they dominated the intellectual spaces, the professional spaces,
and and and typically they're very they are morally righteous people.
They don't always dabble in the mamminary of sports.
Speaker 5: Well, let me give you some insights. So Steve Young's
my favorite athlete of all time. You guys know that
he's my absolute hero.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 5: When he became quarterback for the forty nine ers. I
had the watch those games. But guess what you do
not watch TV on Sunday in the Journey family. So
you know what I did, I'd take a nap whenever
that game started. I had the little thirteen inch black
and white back in the these these are back in
the antenna days, and I would sit in my room
pretend I was taking a nap under the covers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd watch Steve Young ball for the forty
that is black and white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to hide it from your family, Like
where did you get the money to buy the black
and white mini TV?
Speaker 1: It was just around. It was just a family TV
that just oh it.
Speaker 2: Just kind of boun So you take that TV.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a happ or whatever.
Speaker 2: So screen size that's how inches? What was the like?
How big waste? Oh so you said thirteen? Sorry, I
apologize that. Yeah, you just had under your sheets? Yeah yeah,
inches slow, that's impression.
Speaker 1: That's how I watched Steve Young growing up.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, to me, that's choosing the right.
Speaker 5: My family has relaxed and and everyone and we have
Super Bowl parties now.
Speaker 1: Man in one out on the gurney.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna hate that super Bowl party though, Gurney,
you already told me last week.
Speaker 2: The ideology super Bowl parties I watch that. I'm also
that you got to realize the Kingdom builders they view
that is is idolatry. Do not now shot not worship
any grave and Steve Young.
Speaker 4: I used to be okay with people who didn't like
watching sports on Sunday, but I have an argument against them,
and I think they're actually less christ Like than those
who do watch who I may have offended a lot
of our audience, but let me put let me put
it to you like this, we just okay, just just
listen before you This is the way I look at it.
So because because I don't want to call specific people out,
but I won't say who in in what area of
my life, But there's people in my life who are
adamantly against like the fact that so like on Sundays
it's me and all my cousins and we all go
to my aunts and uncles and we just watched football day.
That's how we spend time together. And to me, that's
more christ Like, that's more family building than you sitting
on the couch or sitting in your room by yourself,
scrolling TikTok or.
Speaker 2: Clip talk or whatever.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I feel as though if we're watching
football as a family and that's how we're spending time together,
I mean, family, isn't it about time? Isn't that more
important and more valuable to building up the Kingdom of God?
You scrolling Instagram or reading a book or whatever in
your room by yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, approval on This.
Speaker 1: Was my argument with my family the whole time.
Speaker 2: I think it's important. I think actually the church should
come out and say, hey, we believe that you should
spend some time with the family watches of football on Sunday,
you know. And so whoever's over the you know, over
the baptismal schedule, maybe bishop, state presidency, whoever, or the
primary presidency, it's their fault for having that slot. Why
was there a lot there at all?
Speaker 3: Is secretary.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you gotta avoid those types of things strategically.
Speaker 1: Don't put people in that situation.
Speaker 2: Don't put people in that situation where they have to
choose the glory the most glorious game known to man.
Speaker 5: I don't like how you avoided my question, though, I'm
still upset about it.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, you got the rest of our start
because I know the answered.
Speaker 1: You're not admitting it.
Speaker 2: What what's the air you're super bowling? Well, if it
was my own fam, well yeah.
Speaker 4: And the hard part is like, it's not like it's
a cousin or nephew or you could just be like hey, sorry,
like I couldn't go like it's a direct relative.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it really hard.
Speaker 3: You know what I would tell them, g man, I
would try to reschedule myself, which I've done such and
then I would tell them, Okay, so I'm coming, but
you do understand that you're making this inconvenient for me. Yes,
I'm being selfish. I will be there, but like I
told you, I will be watching it on my phone.
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest. So I don't remember anyone who
was at my baptism. I'm sure whoever it is, they
won't remember that you were.
Speaker 2: Luckily, there's some pictures so you can remember.
Speaker 3: That's why you take pictures.
Speaker 2: At some point it will be why you weren't there.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't have to worry about because the bishop
was inspired and he canceled it.
Speaker 2: Shout out down to Bishop Biship what's his name. I'm
not sure Bishop Smith will call him Bishop's Bishop.
Speaker 3: Of the Years, Bishop Hank Smith.
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All right, guys, so we've we heard the news right yesterday.
You have a new cornerback coach, Lewis Clark, who I
really I liked his resume. Tomorrow, Warn moves over to
the safety's coach position. He's still the passing game coordinator
for the Bau Cougar defense. That's exciting, justin and are
gonna be solely focused on special teams. He's moving from
the linebacker room to just special teams coordinator. Obviously, Kelly
Peping is your DC and we'll be coaching up the
like the linebackers, it looks like as your DC. And
then you have Cioni Pujo who's taken the entire defense
of line. But mostly it's gonna be tackles and then
Chad k Chad Kaha taking the outside edge and linebacker position.
Kelly's gonna be inside linebackers. It sounds like as he
was a Mike linebacker himself. He was the team captain
in seven, Baby, leading our teams to glory and victory
at top ten defense. Everyone thinks seven was just offensive
productivity and uh in power. Nay, I say that was
a decent top forty offense, But we had a top
ten defense. We led the way in two thousand and seven,
and it was led by k Pop Anyway. I digress,
but good defensive staff. And now you're looking at the
analyst right. Obviously, Gary Anderson has been officially retained. That's
big news. But other individuals are being retained as well,
both offensively and defense. We know the offense pretty much
retained all of their position coaches minus Matt Mitchell. So
let's start with that. Tyler Hughes going to be your
assistant quarterbacks coach. Tyler Who's we get to know him
a little bit better. You got ty Moe, tys Moe.
He's going to be an assistant linebackers coach, I metge
He's gonna help out with the inside linebackers, primarily because
your DC, Kelly Pepinga is going to have to be
delving into all the schematics and culture and overseas overseeing
the entire defensive unit. Dylan Allman blay you assistant coach
for special teams. He'll be aiding in supporting justin Enna
it sounds like. And then Raylan Singleton, who has been
I believe a GA and maybe an analyst. Dylan Singleton
gonna be the assistant wide receivers coach for the BYU
Cougar football team. G Man, your thoughts, your commentary, your
follow up to the news.
Speaker 5: My thoughts are this and fans are gonna hate this,
But based on the coaching alignment and what they're coaching,
what is b way you's base defense going to be
under Kelly Popinga.
Speaker 1: And what was it in two thousand and seven? It's
gonna be a three four, guys, it's gonna be a
three to four.
Speaker 2: Well realized last year it was a three fours.
Speaker 1: It was a three to four. Fans understand that.
Speaker 2: It was about seventy percent thirty front with a stand
up edge and thirty forty front with like four down linement.
Speaker 5: That's what b way he's gonna run and it is
going to be fantastic because that's what the personnel is,
these four linebackers. I think about your linebackers with a
with Aaron Wagner, Cameron Jenssen, Bryan Killed David and For
of the best linebackers you'll ever see, I would put
Isaiah Glasker, Lucy Tomoy, Peyo uh Ulu Bai.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I do like well his defensive lineman if I'm
not mistaken, but yes.
Speaker 5: And yeah, and and then the other guy who started
at middle backer's name, I'm forgetting who played for timbu
I'm forgetting his name. Line those four guys up, they
compared to your group, that's a comparable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of people are saying that last year
with Jack Kelly, Isaiah Glasger, you know you had a
pretty good This one's even better.
Speaker 5: This one's even better because you got a maybe a
sixty to seventy percent Isaiah Lasker last year. Yeah, Jack
Kelly's gonna be tough. I mean, Jack Kelly said too,
He's gonna be tough to replace. But I maintain Noosey
has that talent to do it. Yeah, but you had
labe to this group. Oh bad, hot dog. Yes, this
is a linebacker defense. Linebacker base, that's who's gonna get
it done. It should be a fantastic defense. But my goodness,
losing Gennaro and Jay Hill stepping in two new coaches,
that's a tough ask. That's gonna be tough. We'll see
what they can do. Kelly Popping, I believe he is
a very capable individual. I believe he makes very good,
good hires. I have to trust this process. Klawe obviously
has the track record to improve situations. Yeah, let's see
what they got. It should be very very interesting to
see how this unfolds. But when you have a linebacker
group that b what he's gonna have, I think things
are gonna tend to take care of itself.
Speaker 2: Brett always bringing the hammer. Your thoughts, your commentary to this? Uh?
This very Uh? These are impactful hires, These are impactful acquisitions. Uh.
Many people they they wanted, certain people they wanted, Certain
coaches either retained or acquired. And so I think overall
BEEWA fans are happy with this. Uh.
Speaker 4: But your thoughts, I mean, first of all, I like
that you're getting it done early, that you're not having
to wade along into the waters and kind of just
get whatever's left.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be.
Speaker 4: Not a have a whole lot of time to like
lose an identity or anything like that.
Speaker 2: My biggest question, I think is.
Speaker 4: How much of last year's system, culture, identity, how much
of that carries over because again, like you do retain
a lot of coaches and the coaches that you did
pull in our guys. You know, obviously Lewis Walker was
somebody who played for Kilani, so you know who he is.
Klani knows him well enough to say, your personality, your
identity is a fit for what we do here. I
don't know the answer, but I am curious just how
much of how seamless? I guess is the question, how
seamless is it going to be from last year to
this year? Because the idea is hopefully, like again, you
keep a lot of the same guys, you promote guys
from within. Kelly Papinga was already working with your edges
and he was already a big part of the defense. Anyway,
is there going to be change an adjustment from last year,
and if so, how much? And then what are things
going to look like in terms of scheme, how new
will it be, what adjustments will there be? How quickly
do they pick that up. I'm curious to see that.
I feel like it's gonna be good and semi seamless. However,
nothing is a perfect carryover. So that's I think my
biggest question.
Speaker 2: Let me address the defense, and I want to address
the offense. I think if you're gonna take any like
controversial like take in regards to the defensive coaching staff,
it would have been why didn't we retain you know,
Gavin Fowler, you know he goes becomes the DC, And
we were saying, some people are like, well, it's better
it maybe Gavin that wanted the Weaver State job. That's
a good job. It's a good job. He's going to
be able to scale that propel himself into the conversation
for maybe becoming a head coach now that he's a
d C at Weber State. Whereas if you're a position
coach at b YU, you're a safety's coach, where do
you go from there? Even if you're a passing game
coordinator or a special teams coordinator you know some people,
it just depends on your path, right, you know, Kellen
or sorry, Gavin is probably not going to be able
to level up if he's at BYU. I don't know
if he ever leaves BYU, you know what I mean.
G Man kind of knows, and maybe he wouldn't want
to leave BYU for his professional pathway. It may be
better that he's at Weber State if he wants to
be become eventually a head coach, if he wants to
be eventually a defensive coordinator at a at a power
for institution. So I think you look at what BYU
ended up acquiring though, and g Man, you know, I
think you I need to lean on you in this
as well, because having a safety's coach and a cornerbacks
coach that is that are minorities. I think is this
is never I don't know if this has ever happened.
At BUY, you have a safety's coach and a cornerbacks
coach that are both familiar with the region, both familiar
with the state of Utah. Over the last twenty years
recruiting Utah and the surrounding areas of the West Coast,
one having coached at SU and Boise State and the
other one having been to the East Coast, which is
going to be intriguing to me if he's going to
tap into his East Coast recruiting pipeline. But his roots
are in Utah. He played at Hawaii, played at Utah.
Lewis Clark has also recruited the state of Utah heavily
over the years. I think it's like I can't find
any holes in the acquisitions, is what I'm saying. Like
I can't find like I can't say, hey, this is
these aren't right, highers, because you have two guys that
have been defensive coordinators, one of them has been a
head coach, and they've also continually scaled in the business.
We had a Boise State insider that stated when Demorrio
Warren was getting some flack from donors and fans about
the secondary, all of the players that Demorrio was coaching
and the cornerbacks rallied around him, like, no, we love Tomorrio,
we love being coached by him. We believe in Tomrio.
Lewis Clark, I think is going to be the same
type of player too. I think if you talk to
our same type of coach as well, you talk to
his players. One of the things that stood out to
me about is like Resume was obviously team captain in
high school, but most inspirational player. He's a leader, and
he's a recruiter. When you're inspirational, you're communicative. When you're inspirational,
you're willing to go out and recruit and pallet payment
more so than anything. We have to leave no stone
unturned to find the gems of the United States of
America that fit BYU's culture, that have the highest athletic
potential and coverability. And I think to Mario and Lewis
with with the bau brand, the Big twelve brand, the
powerful you know, a powerful entity that it is with
proper anil support, I'm going to bet on these guys.
I'm actually very much intrigued. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: That brings me to just my over writing point.
Speaker 5: Well, one thing fans always say, and this really bugs me,
he's a good coach, but not a good recruiter.
Speaker 1: He's a good recruiter, but not a good coach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, recruiting is coaching, and I would argue, if
you're a position coach, that's that's most.
Speaker 1: Of what coaching is for.
Speaker 5: You, recruiting is more important than anything else you do
on that staff. And I maintained that it's all about
recruitment and this is why, and retention and that's a
very important for the secondary where you're dealing with a
lot of double minority And this is the big thing,
the big boy that General Gilbert's leaving is the retention
of double minorities in his cornerback rooms is unlike anything
I've ever seen. It's been phenomenal. You have to maintain
that that is the single most important thing for these
guys to continue and even enhance.
Speaker 1: No other thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, yeah, development, all that, Yeah, technique, sure,
that's important, But recruitment and retention, that's what that's the onus.
That's number one with all these coaches. So I like
that you brought up that point because that's and Claudia
knows this, Claudia knows is better than one right. So
bringing the double minorities in to coach the safeties in
the cornerbacks, I like that foundation.
Speaker 1: Plus they have the resume to back it up. Yes,
I'm with you on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, that's where I'm at with the defense.
I think the only thing that you can say is like, hey,
we probably should have retained a coach that was there
at b Way in order to you know, make congruity
and scheme and all those things. But I think they
have enough coaches that have been running the scheme over
the last few years to maintain the schematics in its integrity.
I would have loved to see Kellen at b YU
would have loved to see Sorry, Gavin, I keep saying Kellen.
Kellen's my teammate, Gavin's his younger brother who played with
my brother Matthew. Anyway, I would have loved to see
Gavin Rattaine. But I actually think from a professional standpoint,
Gavin's in a better spot as the defensive coordinator going
out there pounding pavement, recruiting and living up because that's
gonna be a really good we Restate team. I think defensively,
Tanner Jacobson over there as well, special teams coordinator asistant
head coach with coach care, that's gonna be a really
good football program next year. It's go and for years
to come with this coaching staff that they've built. And anyway,
let me talk. Let me turn the tides over to
Tyler Hughes. I think this is the biggest one. Many
people didn't know who Matt and Mitchell was until about
a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1: Year ago.
Speaker 2: You know, if you listen to our show, we talk
about Matt Mitchell even prior to that and the impact
that he had. Remember, you're as an offensive coordinator, you
want a film junkie that's highly analytical and it can
also recruit, uh, you know, you're looking for that whole
list in mind. But like much of their bandwidth is practice,
uh planning, how how they're going to structure the practice
and getting in the install and things of that nature.
It's oversight, it's architecture and and also closing on the
offensive or defensive side. So Aaron Roderick and k Pop
are your are your two coordinators in that regard, But
you need to have boots on the ground day in
and day out, hands on. You know that that that
personal touch, and that's where a guy like Tyler Hughes
is gonna come in. This is interesting. I don't know
if you guys have looked at his resume, very unique resume,
American football coach with experience at essentially every level of
the game, high school Junior College n cublea NFL in
twenty twenty five, he was a football analyst for the
University of Alabama. Okay, so now he's coming over to
BYU as an assistants quarterbacks coach. So, I mean, canaan
de board. We can all agree he's a good coach.
And you know, they went to the College Fotball Playoff.
But he's also been a head coach too. He's been
a head coach in Cuba. Experience across multiple teams, multiple programs,
multiple platforms. New England Patriots, he was with them as
an offensive assistant from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two.
He was the wide receivers coach as well, apparently under
Jared Mayo. So, and that was in twenty twenty four.
As a head coach, he's been a head coach seven
total seasons, which is interesting at different at different levels.
He's originally from Salt Lake City and look, I mean
he's been at snow You know, he's recruited the state
of Utah in the past. He was at Washington as
an offensive analyst, minut State as the head coach. It
was a bit of a program rebuild southern Virginia. He
was there as head coach. He was a quality, controlling
quarterback quarterback assistant coach under Urban Meyer in twenty thirteen
at Ohio State. Pretty but robust resume. A lot of
experience that will help Aaron Roderick here. You know, we're
getting to this day and age. I think it's interesting
now that we have resources, institutional resource and not just
nil resources. Okay, we're able to go out and find
and attract a Kevin Gilbride who had coached in the NFL.
Not only coach in the NFL, but he was brought
up his father was a head coach in the National
Football League with some really good teams doing high level
things at the top of the of the of the
NFL world, of the professional world. You go out and
find Tyler Hughes. This is unique to find this guy
as an assistance quarterbacks coach. This it gets you excited
about the future of BYU football. BYU fans have always
had a high expectation for BYU. Most of the achievements
at BYU, I think per dollars spent in coaching talent
and definitely per coaching guy in like the infrastructure, the
institutional resources, that were allocated to the players. I would
say the players overachieved for the coaches they just have.
B YU was overachieved. You got to give a lot
of credit to coaches, there's no doubt. But I think
the player that that BYU attracts naturally has been raised
in great homes that you can always have. So we've
overachieved with our talent. Now we're getting to the point
where we have even better talent on the player side
and better coaching. What have I complained about the most?
G Man? You know, it's about attracting and retaining talent
and developing talent. You need as many touch points as
possible to do that. Basketball has a two to one
ratio coach mentor to player. No wonder, they went to
the Sweet sixteen last year, right, No wonder? You need
to get closer to that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's one to two player to coach at for BAU football.
So you need really high quality assistance that can manage,
you know, ten players and do a really good job
of that. Does that make sense? Five to ten players
do a really good job of that. So I'm excited
about this. Tyler Hughes is a really nice, nice hire
for BYU. Congratulations to Tyler and his family, but congrat
relation to a Rod for going out and find the
right finding the right guy. This was an outside the box.
No one was talking about Tyler Hughes. Nobody. I sure
teck what I had my list of guys. Tyler Hughes
was an on my roster.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Kevin Gilbride. That's a very good comparison. Just
what he is. It's like, wow, there's like no connections,
but they went and.
Speaker 2: Got this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes you excited about it?
Speaker 2: No, it does.
Speaker 5: And Matt Mitchell was the most underrated coach on the staff.
I believe what he did. I it was phenomenal. I
was able to walk the sidelines during the Arizona game
and just watching him on the sidelines. He was the
quarterbacks coach. They all gathered with him after every time out,
and he knew what he was doing. I just asked
Bear Bachmeyer how valuable Matt Mitchell was in his development.
Speaker 1: So getting a guy like Hughes.
Speaker 5: That can not only continue, but baby implement and and
and surpassed even what Matt Mitchell gave you, that's a
tremendous thing.
Speaker 1: Because quarterbacks kind of important at the collegiate level, well.
Speaker 2: You're you're trying to attract and retain and develop high
level quarterback talent without them like transferring. That's the biggest
issue in college football right now. And you want to
have at least like two deep quality right and it's
just a new day and age the way that you
can do it. Obviously, John Beck's been critical piece in
that because offseason you're consulting with him. You're already on
the West Coast. It's a it's a pretty easy flight there.
You have multiple a multitude of flights of flights between
Breeze and Southwest, et cetera. Uh seeing, and he comes
into town too. But you need a guy with NFL experience,
like this is going to be unique Tyler Hughes and
that's gonna be unique in house guy that's that that
knows the game, that he's been at the highest of
levels coaching in the NFL and in the power for
SEC structure.
Speaker 1: It's nice to have money, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to acquire town. You're never
going to be the highest bidder, but what you can
offer is like, hey, you know what what Tyler probably
as an experience in a minute is at least some
semblance of balance in his life. With the branding of
of of BYU, it's gonna be it's gonna be intriguing.
It's gonna be intriguing, no doubt. I'm excited.
Speaker 5: I predict that you will put in the first interview
requests for for Hughes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably, I believe it's gonna come very It's probably to.
Speaker 2: Allow you to go, let's go, baby.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be requesting hughes and what.
Speaker 2: Let's go, Tyler Hughes Baby. Congratulations to a Rod. All right, guys,
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Speaker 5: I told you this in text back in our student ward.
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Speaker 5: Okay to just stay with me on this story, right,
she was okay, she's all right, what the heck like
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was like day. Yeah, don't that
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Speaker 1: Oh, this was such a long time.
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tell me on me that I still remember that. Yeah,
it was. It was an indelible moment for the g man.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you need you need the talents and abilities.
Speaker 5: But as I did throughout our entire ward experience, you
know this bear of the name one, because we attended
the same ward together, I did not seize my opportunity.
Speaker 2: You did not seize the day.
Speaker 1: Did not? I did not.
Speaker 2: Let's not lay he didn't seize day anyway. Let me
get you this question today. So, Tyler Hughes, assistant quarterbacks coach,
I think this is probably you know yesterday it was
Lewis Clark was the headliner. I would say, uh is
the main acquisition. And then you have Tyler Hughes as
your assistant quarterbacks coach twenty twenty five, Alabama Analysts twenty
twenty four, Patriots wide receiver coach twenty twenty three, Washington
Huskies Analysts twenty twenty to twenty twenty two offensive assistant.
He's also a coach as a quality controlled assistant at
Ohio State under Urban Myer, who's the head coach at
Snow College from twenty eleven to twenty twelve. He's a
Utah State grad a member of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints. Your thoughts on the acquisition,
Tyler Hughes.
Speaker 1: I love it. I for all the reasons I stated before.
Speaker 5: You like b way you to have a white umbrella,
and you like guys that don't fit what you think
of the way you coach is. That's why I like
the Kevin Gilbright hires so much. That's why I like
Tyler Hughes. It's far reaching. It's a guy with a
lot of experience that can bring in new life. And
I like that the way you hired him, because it's
really easy to go out there and just hire someone
you're comfortable with. It's just a yes man. Yeah, yeah,
I'll do whatever you say. You don't really want.
Speaker 2: That to me.
Speaker 5: This is very well done by a Rod. I mean
you have to think Gay Rod was personally responsible for
the Kevin Gilbright thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's spreading his wings.
Speaker 5: He wants input, he wants to develop, and I think
Aaron Roderick had a breakthrough season for himself. Not so
much in that he just became a better coach, but
I think fans started to realize, yeah.
Speaker 1: This guy's pretty good.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of doubters are not doubters anymore
of a Rod, just with what he was able to
forge last season. If not, you're dumb, because he did
an amazing job the development of a Bear Bot mark. Yeah,
Bear's phenomenal, But it wasn't all Bear that That's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. But this just kind of exemplifies who
A Rod is.
Speaker 5: And I think A Rod's development as a coach fired
twice from the University of Utah just kind of coming
back to BYU being able to and he didn't come
as the offensive coordinator. He took a demotion, he was
just the quarterbacks coach. Yeah, and just become what he is.
I think it's a phenomenal story. So props to A
Rod and I think this is going to continue it.
I think this is a fantastic higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like the low hanging fruit for that
particular hire would have been, you know, hire someone internally
that's already there, that's an analyst. Right, would have been
like bringing in a former b with your player that
was a quarterback that's kind of coached in the high
school or collegiate ranks. Right, you could have done something
like that, Like it wouldn't have been a bad hire,
Like you could have went out and got, you know,
a local coach, Like I was looking at different coaches
that are offensive minded coaches that have a ton of
experience at the high school or collegiate level. It's like,
you know, Zach Erickson. I thought that would have been
a good higher. Max Hall would have been a good
higher right like, obviously you're not gonna get John right now.
We chatted with him. He's he's uh, he's trained three,
trained three DQB and he's coaching up his kids. You're
not gonna have access to John and until he's in
the twilight of his his rearing of the children, right
because he wants to coach them. He values that. But
you could have gone a number of different directions here
within your like BYU alumni, big I wouldn't have a
problem with that. I really wouldn't have had an issue
with that. The question is, are have we crossed a
threshold right of limitations where we're only hiring like former
BYU players, right like super connected BYU like talents to
come and coach And obviously you are. They're still there.
Remember Kevin gilbrid was once upon a time a BUA
football player. This guy's from the Tyler Hughes is from
the state of Youth or from the state of Utah,
Okay and with a head coach at SNOW So it's like,
but look at the diversity of experience that he has
because he was bought into the game. How many times
have we hired guys that weren't necessarily bought into the
college football or NFL coaching game. They weren't necessarily always
like with this professionally focused.
Speaker 1: Basically half of Kelanie's initial staff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna be perfectly honest.
Speaker 2: They were in and out of coaching. You know, they
like coaching, but was it their profession.
Speaker 1: No, it's just a b way you and that's it
type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to mention any names, but that's kind
of what it was. Coaching's hard. It takes a lot
of sacrifice. You're on the road a lot.
Speaker 5: I touched on recruiting, that's what coaching is. These guys
spend so much time pounding that pavement and all that.
One of my favorite articles I did it was actually
with Killye poppinga and I talked to him, I want
to get a real insight of what it's like as
a coach on the road, and he said, you show
up and you're gonna miss and miss and miss and miss.
Speaker 1: It's it's like that that sells.
Speaker 5: Job where you're not getting a sell I don't know
for maybe months on end, but then you land that
big one and sometimes you don't think you made that
connection but you did, and something is realized maybe two
or three years down the line. But it takes a
lot of initiative. That's what recruiting is. It's initiative. It's
being aggressive. It's all that where people say, oh man,
how they find that guy? That's kind of lucky. You know,
it's initiative because you're out there so you can grasp
one of those opportunities. Get your Evan Johnson, I mean,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: How are you able to.
Speaker 5: Identify that and bring that in that? That's just networking
and all that. It's tough and it takes a lot
of initiatives. So and just someone that has to understand
they have to love it enough to do that because
it's not easy. It is not easy just being out
there and just thinking you're not doing anything weeks on
end away from your family and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But building those connections it's tough.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you need coaches that they'll love it enough
and love football enough that that's their profession and they're
willing to do that because that's what coaching is, especially
in this nil era.
Speaker 1: You've got to get out there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's, uh, it's intriguing to me. This particular
higher because look, are we the quarterback factory still?
Speaker 1: Are we?
Speaker 2: QBU?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, What I'm saying is like I think, are we
a top twenty five quarterback developing program? Yeah? Yeah, so
you want to continue to acquire, retain develop high level
quarterback play, right, yeah, we're all there.
Speaker 1: No, no BWA just linebacker you.
Speaker 2: Well yeah they're linebacker you.
Speaker 4: But like, look at how many guys BOU has gotten drafted,
and then look at every other school and how many
of their quarterbacks are getting drafted on a regular basis.
Like I know, I know, I understand Jaron Hall and
Keaton Slovas are not going to the Super Bowl winning
NFL MVP, But I think we have as BOU, people
have gotten like just in the zone of like, yeah,
quarterbacks get drafted, That's just how it goes.
Speaker 1: Like I'll tell you.
Speaker 4: A guy who loves the University of Georgia. Even Georgia
quarterbacks don't get drafted a whole lot.
Speaker 2: So the fact that.
Speaker 4: Bolia has been able to do this and get guys
drafted on a consistent in justified last five years is
a big deal.
Speaker 2: So since two thousand, how many quarterbacks have been developed
at BYU and played in the NFL. Obviously Brandon Doman,
John Beck, Max Hall, Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jaren Hall,
Keiden Slovas. It's pretty it's not bad. Like eight or
so quarterbacks good over a you know, a twenty five
year period, many of them drafted.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. I think I think the
quarterback factory is still a life and well and it's
there's been a resurgence of it since probably I mean,
you can say twenty sixteen when Kalani came in. I
think you can give some credit to Kalani tapping into
the Lavell era, right, but like, but also you got
to give a lot of credit to, you know, the
coaching staff that brought in in Brandon Doman, that was
the Lavelle era. Then you have John Beck and Max
Hall who were recruited Brandon Doman recruited Max Hall. By
the way, John Beck was recruited by Robbie Bosco, I mean,
you know, and he gave him that offer. Shout out
to Robbie going to be a mission president. Taysom Hill,
Luckily Harbaugh left Stanford, you know, Luckily they didn't have
a scholarship for him when he came off his mission
and he bounced.
Speaker 1: That's scholarship for Taysom.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, shout out to Brandon Doman. That was another
acquisition from Brandon. Ver Maybe gotta get Brandon on the
line and say he is the quarterback factory still alive
and well, because that's what'd be interesting, right, Get his
thoughts on a Rod and John the touch point of
John Beck, the development of John Beck and now Tyler
Hughes and how what role Hill play in all this?
Got to give a big carle to Matt Mitchell. He
was a pivotal in the development of bear Bachmeyer. Is
bear Bachmeyer on pace to become an NFL quarterback? Indubitably?
Indubitably the quarterback factory is alive and well, ladies and gentlemen,
and perative that it continues to be good. You know
what's another key component of the quarterback factory going into
the modern era doctor Skyler, Maine Kolbe, Glassan and Ryan
phillis those three guys biomechanics. You know, like I was
chatting with someone today about gate functions. So it's like
in in orthopedics and sports medicine with orthotics in uh
in in in uh just medical devices. We're always talking
about like gate analysis. He was, he's a horse guy.
He's like, do you know there's like gate analysis AI
tools for like your horses. Horses are big business if
you guys don't know, I mean horses are breeding and
racing and like show horses, like not just racing, but
like the how they you know, prants on their little hoofs.
That's gait. Okay. So like your biomechanical like outputs and
your range, emotion, your elasticity, your ability to create generation
this rotational torque through the lower half and these throwing
motions and developing every key marginal competitive advantage. It all matters, guys,
all of it, you know what I mean. Like if
you go to train three dqb's a website and I
know Brett knows this because he's on that website. He
posts some of the the advertisement. Ever John comes on
because we want to support his business every time he
comes on. But it's like biomecant elite biomechanical training. It's kinesiology.
It's the movement of the body and maximizing okay, the
output and strength and maintaining the health of the body
at all the same time. So those guys deserve I
think that we've got to keep an eye on that.
And they've been there for a minute, they've been there
for a few years now, and we're seeing some of
the fruits of that too, and I can't wait to
see more fruits of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it just goes into your your statement that the
more of the merrier.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to have alignment. Sometimes you can have
too many cooks in the kitchen. So you do need
true alignment. You don't just hire to hire. You don't
just hire to hire. You have to have alignment. You
have to have collaborative problem solvers, synergizers, because if you
get too many alphas you know in there that don't
want to collaborate and teammate work and like they're not aligned,
there's there's a lot of infighting. Yeah, and there's a
lot of ego and a lot of like, well you know,
leveraging and like it can it can go awry, it can't.
But I see a lot of alignment, strategic alignment here
with these hires. So I'm optimistic, like I really am.
I'm optimist about the defense secondary. I think that the
cool thing is like we you know, you have to
go back probably to the eighties and late seventies to
with like Scoville, Lavelle was implementing a new a new
wave of scheme and he was having Bill Walsh of
the forty nine ers into the eighties funnel young up
and coming West Coast style talent coaching talent to b
yu home grin Billick. They came to brig them to
learn from Lavelle in the scheme because it was being
employed in the NFL and then they would be there
for a few years and then they move on to
the NFL and they rose to power, that rose to
fame to a certain extent. I don't know if that's
what the pathway is going to be for these coaches
that have been around the block, But like you're seeing
good NFL touch points at BYU right now, and you're
seeing a nice balance of collegiate experience as well proven
collegiate experience that are professionals in their craft. This is
what they do for a living, this is what they've been,
this is who they're gonna be.
Speaker 5: And one guy that needs to be mentioned is guess
who's still around gury.
Speaker 2: In Gary Anderson's around.
Speaker 1: Gary, He's still there, guys, he's there. He did not
go to Michigan.
Speaker 2: Hold on, here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
We had to turn it off there for a minute.
Speaker 1: Victory.
Speaker 2: Rich Rodriguez, also head coach of West Virginia, told a
story how he came down here to talk to the
BYU coaches about the passing game. Oh yeah, that's right, yeah,
Rich Rod. Back in the day, right, yeah, I mean
there was a lot of you know, passing game talent
that came through b YU and the glory days, and
to a certain degree, like we're seeing the modern day
glory days for BYU fans. Realize, like you're experiencing something
that has only happened like three times in BYU football history,
the winningest ways, the development of NFL talent. It's seventy
nine to eighty five, that's the glory days. You have
five to twenty eleven, those are some glory days, guys.
Lots of double digit win seasons, NFL talent being produced,
all that, and then twenty twenty to twenty twenty five
eleven and one, okay, ten and three, eight and five,
five and seven, a little bit of a dip. But
remember on that back end dip five and seven, you
almost beat two top ten teams that were double digit
win teams, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Like you're like there,
you're knocking on the door, okay, in your second year
of the Big twelve, right, or first year of the
Big twelve, excuse me? And then you go eleven and
two twelve and two, and you're developing high level talent,
and you're acquiring high level talent in the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: And playing much better competition.
Speaker 2: And you're playing better competition weekend and week out. It's
a great day to be a Cougar. It is, it
really is. Is these are the glory days.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: When you look at what BAU has returning next year,
it's gonna be hard to screw that up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really hard to screw that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think they nailed the transfer portal, still want another
running back. Other than that, they nailed it. I the
retention the guys coming back. I think they're poised to
be as good as any BAU team I've ever covered. Absolutely,
And I think last year's team was as good as
any team I've ever covered.
Speaker 1: Next year's team should be even better.
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