Speaker 1: I'll start to you to presents. Off the bench with
Jacob Hester and T bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone?
Speaker 3: Welcome Inn two oh t b Another day. Here we go, guys.
Speaker 2: Uh and here we.
Speaker 3: Go signing day, a day in which LSU fans have
maybe been feeling increasingly insecure about is finally here. Will
you be crying tears of joy, tears of sadness, or.
Speaker 2: Will we be like, oh, you know how together? Or
who knows?
Speaker 3: We Over the next few hours, we should start out
as we will be moderning and monitoring the LSU Twitter
accounts all the various recruiting Twitter counts throughout today's show,
and we'll be updating you.
Speaker 2: As these recruits come in.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's it's a little sad because you know
the Byeu bash when you know you said the fibers,
it used to be really awesome. A ton of people
out there, everybody drinking and partying all day. What what
a what a funny cultural quirk for the aliens to
try to understand when they come down to earth. They
had come down and like you know, the early two thousands,
and they see, well, the the adult males and some
of their females seem to.
Speaker 2: Take off of work for a day to celebrate.
Speaker 3: The coordination of the younger males who are who are
being adopted into their pseudo military football program. I mean,
it used to be like a day off, big time party.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 3: Here's to hoping that today, even though there won't be
a party, Here's to hoping that you'll be feeling like
you want to party by day's end. Easy to eat
a bastile win. Yes, basketball did win, huge win, beat FSU,
beat him good and beat him without Danie read. It
was a really great performance by Magma mahon and his team,
which just continues to perform very well out of conference.
Speaker 2: However, the conference looks very strong.
Speaker 3: Also say the postgame press conference in Hunt was Hunt
told McMahon that the SEC was nine and zero at
the at the time of the end of the game
in the SEC ACC challenge is that what it ended out?
Speaker 2: How many games? Clemson beat Kentucky?
Speaker 3: Oh what yeah, God, Kentucky strikes again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was the one I think though, yeah,
sother ten games or how many games are a big play?
Speaker 2: Ten games to nine and one? Oh my god, come on,
Kentucky was number four in the country, Clinton under ranked.
Come on, now, that was a great game and we'll
talk about it. What's quote on? Guys? How we feel?
And they feel nervous, a little happy?
Speaker 4: What I would I mean no, not saying nervous, just
because of a couple of reasons. One, you have no idea,
you know, you just don't know what today is going
to be. And also the math has completely changed just
because the you know, the portal option is there.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a couple of players.
Speaker 4: I think that we're all like waiting to see if
they do in fact sign with LSU and we'll start
to get that news in.
Speaker 2: I know that they've already got a couple in this morning.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's such a great unknown of who's
actually going to be good, who's actually going to work out?
What are you actually going to get in the portal.
It's a different feeling than it used to be. Like
you said, back when we had just the February signing day,
like it was like your season was either going to
be boom, or bust on this day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to your point. Also, some of the steaks are removed.
You talked about it yesterday, but some of the stakes
are removed because of the portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you do.
Speaker 3: Miss out on guys, well it you okay, first off,
you can go to the portal and try to find
substitutes and Jake, those resources are then freed up to
find said substitutes. So that that, I mean, that's one
of the great parts of the modern era of college
football is you are no longer doomed if you take
a gamble and it doesn't work out. I think it's
one of the great reasons why we've seen the increased
level of parity here is because teams are able to
you know, because everybody screws up something recruiting wise, positionally,
maybe it's bad break, maybe you just screwed it up.
Everybody does it though, But nowadays you go get that quarterback,
you'll get a guard, you go whatever whatever you need.
Like remember when else you didn't recruit, was it like
a linebacker for like one or two classes back in
twenty fifteen, and it was all of a sudden, like
a complete disaster. Nowadays, you go get a couple guys,
you'd be golden. It would be a concerned So you're right,
I mean some of the some of the stakes are
lowered in that instance. Again, my goal for the day
top ten. Stay in the top ten. If you can
sign a top ten class, you get, you know, two
thumbs up, good job. I'm not gonna complain about it.
We'll still talk about the disappoint and exciting parts of it.
But if you get top ten, mission accomplished.
Speaker 2: A plus. The entire staff recruiting is.
Speaker 3: An awful, horrible year round twenty four to seven grind,
and if you're finishing the top ten, that is worthy
of applause.
Speaker 2: Wait, so we have a couple of names of the
dog and Taylor. You're you're gonna be monitoring all day.
Give me the name so far?
Speaker 5: Jayden Breaker inside linebacker. We talked about him, he's been
committed for about a year now. And then Walter mathis
defensive end out of Savannah joaol Joe.
Speaker 4: Okay and both players out of Georgia. Yeah yeah, look
at you, t Bob. This class is a little this
class is.
Speaker 2: A little national.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be interested to see how how it works out.
It's kind of like compared to last year, where it
was like I really applauded the class because it was
built on just a ton of solid Louisiana guys, which,
as we discussed in the past, is has really been
the recipe for the foundations of good teams here at LC.
You this one, they're kind of going all over and
there's a lot of Louisiana guys that are going elsewhere.
And I you know, I wonder in the transfer point,
and this is not a question I'll be answered anytime soon,
but I do wonder in the portal era, does you know,
are those guys more apt to leave?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I guess is the question. But we won't know that
for a while. I'm not I'm not criticizing or or applauding.
I am just saying that is an interesting thing that
I'm looking at and that I'm intrigued to see how
it plays out over time as we try to figure
out the best practices in this new age of college football.
To your point, I'm looking and these are just the commits.
You know, some will flip, Yeah, you'll get some that
aren't committed. But I wish there's twenty four commits only
nine from Louisiana.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What was it last year was like fifteen sixteen, the
top eleven in the state. Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see.
I mean, look, don't get me wrong. Yeah, I love
having the number one olimement out of Mississippi. I love
having the number one olimeman on Arkansas in the class.
And where's Solomon Thomas? Arm Is he from Florida?
Speaker 2: He is from Florida.
Speaker 3: Uh so you may get maybe not the number one guy,
but a five star alignment out of Florida.
Speaker 2: That that seems to me.
Speaker 3: If you're looking for the positive LSU smok on the
street right now, is that LSU could flip in tear
off asive lineman Solomon Thomas. This is a guy who's
an industry five star. He's committed to Florida State right now.
But Florida State fired Alex Atkins. They don't have a
they don't have an a line coach. You have a
as solid of an aligne coach as you can find
in Brad Davis and Well, there's blood in the water,
and Florida and LSU are trying very hard to take
advantage of said blood in the water for what it's worth.
Shaye Dixon did put his prediction. He said, if when
he confirms, which is not confirms, if he can confirm
that Solomon Thomas is signing today, he believes he'll sign
with LSU. If he push us off then to the
second side of it, then who knows. But he believes
that they signed today. Thomas a flip and that would
be a pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: Old line class.
Speaker 3: You know, Brett Bordolin is your Louisiana representative, and then
Carrie's current like I said, number one O alignment in Arkansas,
Tyler Miller, number one alignment in Mississippi. And then you
make up for losing Oh who'd you just lose the
alignment that just slipped.
Speaker 2: Away from Harper? Yeah? Yeah, or not flip yeah, flipped
it was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lost Devin Harper to Ole miss Well, you
could potentially make up for that with Sullivan Thomas here.
So that's some of the positive news that else you's
looking for to today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know there could be some out there
that maybe we don't you know, we don't quite know
about it, and maybe there's still some that they're trying
to flip like some of their players have been flipped
over the last forty eight hours, over the last couple
of weeks. No doubt out out there, and still maybe
they can they can find a way today. For me, Like,
if I'm sitting here and I'm like, okay, and I
need this player to sign, I mean it is as
easy for me is DJ Pickett? Like that's like, it's
if he signs today. Now it could be you know,
it could blow up behind him and then you know,
maybe have a different opinion, but it's gonna be hard
for it to be a bad day if he signs.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that.
Speaker 3: I think that the reason being Corey Raymond committed to
trying to get the biggest and the best right, and
so he gets the commitment from the number one corner
of the entire country, DJ Pickett, a five star corner
in Kate Phillips, and then the number one corner in
Louisiana in Nate Nandy. But there's a couple other very
good Louisiana corners that you kind of, you know, let
go elsewhere because you were aiming so high. Kyle Johnson's
number ten player in the state. He's out a bunkie.
He's going to Houston, Bori Antoine's going to Miami. And
so you're right, like, Okay, you sacrificed maybe trying to
recruit those guys super hard in order to pursue the
big dogs, and now you just got Kate Phillips slipped.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, J.
Speaker 3: You have to manage to hold on to DJ Pickett here,
not just because I think he'll I do think he'll
be very good. I think he'll be in line to
you know, if he doesn't start to meet like that,
I think they would tell you they would probably expect
him to start immediately. Maybe he shows up and it
doesn't work out or whatever. I don't know, right, but
I think that's where the expectation would be at. So, yeah,
if you lose him, then all of a sudden, it's
a dual loss because you're losing out on a great
talent and all the resources that you spent trying to
go after the top guys.
Speaker 2: Only two falls short in the end.
Speaker 3: Still, but yeah, Aid Nanning, like, if you get Aid
Nanny Picket, that's great, excellent, two excellent corners joining this class.
Speaker 4: Even Cal Johnson who's been committed to Houston since July.
There is a prediction for him to actually flip to
Mississippi State.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, yeah, either way, that's my point though, Right,
that's the number ten player in Louisiana, probably a guy
if he if Vinzevie, David Flippant, you could probably flip
him if you If Core Raymond and company had wanted
to are committed to but they went big game hunt
and that's fair.
Speaker 2: But now you got to bag the body.
Speaker 3: Uh you know you got you gotta take him down
if you will, and you're trying to hold off Uga
and Miami. Of course, Derek Meadows is expected to flip
uh three start tight nand Mike Tyler expected to flip
so and then and then of course we talked about
it yesterday. What will Jaquem Stewart do? A fascinating, fascinating case.
Uh just reclassified and it's crazy, you know, six five,
two seventy unreal body, very young, only played one year
of football, but in his one year of football was
unbelievably productive. But conceptually, Jake, how do you feel about
paying a million, maybe a million and a half to
a seventeen year old with one year of high school football.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: So it's such a weird situation because I wouldn't feel
necessarily great about it. When you go off a sophomore tape,
I just you know what you were like as a sophomore.
I know what I was like as a sophomore, and
there was things that you know, change and there was
things that grew. There were some things that you know
just looked different junior senior year. And you don't have
that ability to go back and watch that tape.
Speaker 2: Hell, I was two.
Speaker 4: Hundred and fifty three pounds as a sophomore, right, I
mean I was a different player than I end up
being in college. But we all know how it works.
You can't miss guys in Louisiana. The opjects are just awful.
They just talked it like if he was from Texas,
if he was from Mississippi, if he was from Arkansas,
you would surely want him to be an LSU Tiger.
You really want him to be here. But if you
missed him, it wouldn't be doomsday. No, But when he's
from Louisiana and you miss him, and certainly if he
turns out to be a stud, right, that's like one
of those things that LSU fans just don't put up with.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got Saint Ogg and Edna Carr on
that resume, Like, those are the guys I mean you
you LSU literally has the most expensive staff in America.
Don't forget that. And so the investment that you made
in these guys as much as it is on the field,
which again defensively, you really saw it this year, right,
that defensive staff just produced a top to bottom better,
more polished, more disciplined product. Bo Davis especially doing work
with the INTERII deepen line so good. Like this is
also why you brought o'davison to win these battles. That's
why Frank is why why you made Frank you know White,
why you made him at the cornerstone of uh, this
staff is to try to win these battles.
Speaker 2: So here's to hoping you can.
Speaker 3: I will say this, I know that uh it is
tempting to be like only one year of high school
football and I don't know, there probably is some five
star deponis there. But again, the one year he played
was incredibly productive and it is a bit of a
different time in that he was hyper aggressive on the
summer camp circuits, so it's not like he was just
hiding and relying on his size. In one year of film.
He was going doing all the one on ones, not
turning any challenges down. And the other thing is I
understand why he reclassified, even sacrificing his last year of eligibility,
because he had to get in on this gold rush,
because now he's gonna make a million dollars year out
of high school. Probably not probably, I think you know
he will, Yeah, a million dollars you out of high school,
Like you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.
And he did it. Now LSU has to do it.
Speaker 2: They have to do it. They have to try to
find a way to land him.
Speaker 3: I'm so interested to see because Michigan is nowhere on
any of the recruiting sides to Radars. But we did
hear that a godfather offer was made to him from Michigan.
Speaker 2: So I'll be very intrigued to see if that's true
or not.
Speaker 4: Yes, we did hear that, and and that is something
that could certainly come here in the eleventh hour. But
also like when we're talking about this and you're talking
about your resources, and you know, as BK.
Speaker 2: Said, staying under the cap over the cap whatever.
Speaker 4: Uh, You're gonna have people at that position also that
are gonna be like hold up now. If if I'm
Don McKinley, I just had two sacks in my last game,
I was a five star as well, Like, if you're
gonna pony up for this kid who hadn't played since
he was a sophomore, you best believe you're gonna pony
it for me as well.
Speaker 2: Like that's the games, you know, that's the game that
if you're.
Speaker 4: Even if you're a mob bro, it's like, hold up now,
you know how much football played as a true freshman
here at that position, I'm gonna need something too. I'm
not saying they are saying that, but if I was
their rep, I would say hold up now.
Speaker 2: So like that's the game that you play, Like when
you offer.
Speaker 4: Somebody that much and it's at every position, right, I mean,
if you're Garrett Neuschmeyer and you know how much they
offer Underwood and you're like, hold up, I'm top five
in passing yards in the country. Now, I went out
there and I made a lot of plays. What's my
bottom line going to look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And that's what you have to deal with and that's
what you have to kind of put in the budget
is knowing those conversations are going to happen.
Speaker 3: For what it's worth, the budget does break down a
lot like an NFL budget. And when you look like
if you were to put percentages on position groups, who
has the highest who gets paid them? Right, quarterbacks and
to be a make investment wide receivers an increasingly big investment.
Running back not so much. But then like defensive line,
that's one of the biggest numbers on the roster. So
they are going to put a lot of resource in
it trying to keep everybody happy. I do not envy anybody,
but hey man, it's it's the game nowadays. It's the game,
and you got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: When we get back, let's talk about some people who
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Speaker 2: Off the bench. Christmas, there we go.
Speaker 3: Even though now you've played two Christmas songs and they've
both been pass I was.
Speaker 7: Thinking about this yesterday, Okay, yes, I was like, I'm
very tired of everybody calling me the Grinch because.
Speaker 2: I'm really not.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean good kay, And then you know what,
last night I went to the block, so I felt
real good.
Speaker 2: Y'all know I've had a rough couple of weeks. Had
a great workout last night.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I get your mind right, And I was like,
I keep getting called the grinch and I don't want
to get called the grinch anymore.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna compromise here. I'm gonna give you one
Christmas song. Look, that's what does nags an hour for now.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should go half step and I
think you should just give yourself.
Speaker 2: I think you should take what I'm giving. Go hit
another block up, I will hit. I feel great. I
feel great.
Speaker 3: We had we had our wet bels Wednesday at evolved today,
got exceedingly wet this morning. Great workout and Doorphin's pumping, pudling.
Speaker 2: Launder. Did you see Genny, Oh my god, Jenny from
the block. Yeah, god, No, I didn't get there. No,
I did not get that. I'm proud of you too.
Ludacris got a great song, blockdown, lockdown. You can't play
that here. No great song though, workout song actually.
Speaker 3: All right, So yesterday, uh, some of the transfer portal
news started to break as Jordan Allen in the transfer portal.
Landon Ibieta in the transfer portal, No surprise, there's these
guys that are not finding the playing time they were seeking.
Speaker 2: Deshaun Willmack in the transfer portal also not surprising.
Speaker 3: I would say not surprise, because yeah, this year was
not what he was expecting. This one is a little
disappointing though, because we had heard that maybe like LSU
avoided taking guys at this position last offseason for fear
of this exact thing happening. So if that is true,
let that be a lesson about coddling. Okay, if if
you are so worried about offending someone and them leaving
because you bring in competition, well guess what, they can
still leave you anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might as well.
Speaker 3: Bring in competition, because if you're the type of person
that runs of competition, then you're probably not the type
of person you want a team anyway. So if that
is true that you avoided taking somebody else or pursuing
other like edge rushers last year because you didn't want
to upset to Sean Willmack, then never make that mistake again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you there, and you know, certainly I've
heard that same narrative, And this can't be one of
those situations, in my opinion, where you'd be like, well, no,
we weren't developed like we thought we were going to,
because the counter argument to that would be like, hold up, now,
look at the rest of the D line and their development. Yeah,
and how good true they were this year compared to
how good they were a year ago.
Speaker 2: Look at the edge rushers.
Speaker 4: I mean, Braden Swinton wasn't on anybody's draft radar coming
into this year and now he's on all of them. Yeah,
and he was maybe overall the most improved player on
this team.
Speaker 2: Aaron Anderson's in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron Anderson in him would be a top of
the list for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean you had your.
Speaker 3: Best well, I mean came on at the end, but
throughout the entirety of the season, he.
Speaker 2: Would have been your best defender. Yeah.
Speaker 4: When he came in the second quarter of the Florida
game after being suspended for the first quarter, you felt it. Yeah, Okay,
he's impactful, So you can't blame it all not being
developed because there was other people at your position, not
just the D line, but edge rusher.
Speaker 2: Saving Jones have a great Mallig year as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's disappointing, you know, but it is it's
not unexpected. Uh. And then what was both disappointing and unexpected.
Never would have guessed this, Uh CJ. Daniels hitting the
transfer portal. And here's a guy who was the starter
of the entire year, that was a leader the entire year.
I know that the coaches and his teammates loved him. So, yeah,
this is a big loss here. Maybe this is look,
his one year of algia Billy left. Maybe he wasn't
being paid when he thought he wanted to get paid,
or maybe like he thought he could make more elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Or maybe there's something else. Maybe he just didn't like
I was used this season.
Speaker 3: I mean, certainly compared to his production at Liberty this
year was less than that. But I mean also he
was kind of hurt for part of the year. But
that that's a big blow because I thought CJ. Dangels
was really really great this year and it could have
been even more great next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a blow. This is a surprise as well.
I don't think anybody in that building thought that CJ.
Dans I mean BK even talked about in a press
conference a couple what two weeks ago, and he felt
pretty good about him coming back. So they were caught
off guard, I think by this one. I know I was,
I know you were as well. And it like he
didn't find the end zone this year, but he was
still very impactful. Oh he even scored touch he didn't,
well he did, but it got called back against Florida. Yeah,
but anyways, before to bring that one back up.
Speaker 2: Man butterfly effect, if that toutsdown stands, are you in
the SEC Championships?
Speaker 4: Who knows strong strong hands where Look that wasn't like
that's not strong suit for Karen Lacey. Hiren is routes
and getting open and with the ball in his hands
after the catch.
Speaker 2: But like CJ.
Speaker 4: Daniels was your strong handed receiver, Like if it was
in the area, he was gonna come down with it.
And Mason Taylor has a lot of that as well.
But now you got to go you got to go
find somebody else to fit that mold because you need
somebody like that. You have other players that can make plays,
but He was the guy that if it's third and
seven on a nine yard route, you're gonna throw it
in the area and he's gonna.
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Speaker 2: Where do I want to go next? You got another?
Speaker 4: This is I've seen zero surprise, but Zach Weeks officially
in the signing class. Yeah, let's go, hey freaks, I
hope hunt is listening. Of the four guys that have
signed with l s U, three are wearing all white
in their picture.
Speaker 2: Just in case hum was listening. Oh, uniform in case.
Look at that little box like a little toy story thing.
Speaker 7: This very interesting, Okay, I kind of I suppose it's different.
Speaker 2: Where's it gonna talk about, guys? Oh? The playoffs? We
got our playoff rankings last night.
Speaker 3: How about it our Penn Ultimate playoff rankings, which actually
told us quite a bit, and I think they actually
kind of nailed it. So I don't care about the
top teams as much because they're in. It's whatever, and
we'll see where they're seated next week. You know, Oregon, Texas,
Penn State, Notre Name, Georgia's your top five. Then it's
Ohio State, Tennessee, s m U, Indiana, and then Boise ten,
Alabama eleven in Miami twelve. Now a few things went
out of here, like, oh, Miami twelve, they have a chance.
Speaker 2: No, they don't. Miami's l they're out automatically.
Speaker 3: Alabama at eleven is I think. I think the committee
actually kind of nailed it here. So they're telling you
that they believe that Alabama, even though they have three
losses Miami has two, that due to Alabama's schedule and
the SEC, that the nine and three SEC is stronger
than ten and two ACC. I'm actually okay with that,
you know, I can, I can wrap my head around that.
I'm okay with that. They're also saying that SMU at
eleven and one in the ACC is better than nine
and three in the SEC, and I agree with that.
I mean, the regular season has to matter. SMU is
playing on an even playfield. They're brand new to this
big conference. So they just went eleven and one Alabama
and the SE went nine and three, like they're both
playing competition equal to themselves. I think that's a fair
take there. So in my mind, Jake, what should happen here.
If SMU wins and beats Clemson, Alabama will get in
as the last a large. If SMU loses and Clemson
gets in, I believe that SMU should still get in,
because I do agree it's a dangerous precedent to set
that playing in a conference championship game could drop you
out when you're already in the playoffs right now. Yes,
And for what it's worth, like, I think that's all
pretty rational by the committee, and I think it's like
a coin flip, a fifty to fifty shot for nine
to three. Alabama t probably even arguably a better shot
than they deserve, but under said how they're getting the shot.
The only thing I would disagree vehemently with, and I
don't care if SMU gets blown out, is if they
were to get punished and dropped out of here, were
they to lose in Alabama get in over them, that
at that point.
Speaker 2: Which Manuel did say, like, could happen.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, And at that point that would
just be a little too much d riding for me
and and a little too much as the playoff committee
just lifting up Alabama.
Speaker 2: But I think I have a stands right now. Fair
curious Kern is officially a time Let's go. That's a
big boy.
Speaker 3: That is the number one offensive lineman in the state
of Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Shout out Brett Helms. Shoutout Brett Helms to
try Ham. I love Trey, I love Trey. Yeah, you
can't be putting Tray and bretton the same category. I
literally can. The brothers I'm talking about like football player,
it doesn't matter. I just did Bret.
Speaker 4: It's one of the best centers and knows your history.
So Tray's funny he was on team yeah, Brett.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta have a great supports this around you
to be successful. Uh So, what's your point.
Speaker 2: That's just what I said. That's a bad point. You
can't be putting. Give you time, Tech and then we'll
come back and take further on. I'm also another recruit
in all white UNI. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you they like they recruits and young players
like this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Just telling you.
Speaker 3: I got I got nothing. I got nothing on the
uniform front. Everybody do whatever they want to do. Just
win the games.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, Like I don't I couldn't
care less.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just but like to get mad at it.
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, like, that's you know, that's what
they want to wear. And coaches now they don't have
the ability to be like put on this uniform that
I say you're gonna wear, go wear it.
Speaker 2: That's just you know what it is. All right, let's
do this. Let's go. Uh, let's go to break.
Speaker 3: When we get back to talk playoffs and tell you
a little bit about Cary's card.
Speaker 2: Keep it lock right here, I'll no TV.
Speaker 1: Off the bench. Welcome back to more sports talk plus
some other stuff mixed in off the bench with Hester
and t Bomb.
Speaker 3: All right, So Carrie's Kern six', Four jake three to.
TWENTY i like this little tidbit old for the cycle
turning nineteen this, month you, Know, Acember that's What i'm,
saying right, callback let him get a little, bigger a
little more. Developed, look there's a lot of data out
there that if you're an, athlete that holding back is maybe.
Ideal uh, YEAH i Think i'm getting forced in a
maybe holding back to.
Speaker 2: Mine i'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Yet BUT i turned at nineteen the DAY i graduated high,
school literally the ceremony.
Speaker 3: Day so he's even older than you, then because he's
turning nineteen right now In. December but how about this
four eight forty and a four to three shuttle at
six five at.
Speaker 2: Six four three. Twenty that's moving that.
Speaker 3: Bro that's an athletic big. Boy and that's before a
college string.
Speaker 4: Program that's almost like professional running back at the combine.
Speaker 2: Time let's Go Carrie's Kern.
Speaker 3: Welcome that's a big, toy you, Know, god this makes
you just want to have all the action figures all
my favorite football. PLAYERS i still love starting lineup action
figures so freaking. Much and then McFarland started making those
super high detailed ones that you want to play. With
those those are more just like put on. Display BUT
i Had, Edrin James, Warren, Sap Mike, Alstott Randy.
Speaker 2: MOSS i had so many good.
Speaker 5: Ones we also have a new, Signing Damian shanklin defensive.
Speaker 2: End hell yeah, right? Yep four? Star another four? Start
was he number one in the? State was he one
of the players that was, uh he may have. Been
how COULD i where's it? From. Indiana, yeah all, right let's.
See were you trying to, think where Is?
Speaker 3: Indianapolis uh, no, no, don't don't act like that would
Be i'm Not i'm not acting like that's. Crazy BUT
i do know That indianapolis the third ranked player in the. State, okay, okay,
okay uh but so a very like the national. Class
kind of continuing, Here David chaglin six, five two thirty.
Five interesting they.
Speaker 2: Don't have a big scouting uh right up on him
on on.
Speaker 3: Three but another consensus four star Guy Notre, dame was
in Second ohio State.
Speaker 2: Tennessee it's a big get yeah for Lshoe and, LOOK.
Speaker 3: I after seeing What Kevin peoples did with the, Edge,
yes Give Kevin peoples all of the talent and and
and watch him develop.
Speaker 2: It Like I'm I'm i'm very much into.
Speaker 4: That shout out that that could be some good, nickname.
Speaker 2: Great, nickname kid me great. Nickname and then like.
Speaker 3: When you get a, sack you do like a stab
e motion or like a sharpening. Motion hell, yeah or
like this would be my sack. Celebration i'd get my
teammate to act like he was, showering and Then i'd
walk up behind, him just like right in the, ribs you,
know right in the. Kidneys hell, yeah and then have
him fall. Over i'll be so. Good all, Right, Jake
but what did you think about last night's penultimate?
Speaker 2: Playoff raak Its wyke you call it it's just fun.
WORK i only know about it FROM.
Speaker 3: U do you Remember Limity snicket series Of Unfortunate events
the kids? Books the second and last book was called
The Penultimate peril because penultimate is second to, last so
like these are the second last. Ranking it's a fun.
WORD i say it before well and penultimate. Playoffs IF
i could throw a third p on, there it'd be,
Better BUT i can't find where i'd get the third
one get.
Speaker 4: There but, yeah so you were talking About alabama And
miami kind of the resume one of the things THAT
i thought was agreedious and nobody is going to agree with.
Speaker 2: Me but, okay So alabama's number, eleven, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah they've got three, losses, Correct, Yeah, okay they've got
three ranked.
Speaker 2: Wins. Correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah there Was state's, fifteen right, Yeah Arizona state's got two, losses, right,
yeah they've got three ranked.
Speaker 3: Wins so when we talk about ranked, wins are the
time about teams that are, ranked And i'm not saying either.
WAY i don't know arey time the teams that are
ranked currently or teams are ranked at the time that
you beat.
Speaker 4: Them WHEN i know they were when they when they
Beat So alabama's Got missouri is a ranked. WIN lsu
was a ranked win again this at the, time and
Then georgia was a ranked win they lost To they
lost To, tennessee who's a ranked. Team and of course
the other two are on the road against unranked Tam,
yeah bad loss At vandy At. Oklahoma so For Arizona,
state their losses are on the road At Texas tech
and At. Cincinnati but they you, know they've got wins
at the time they were.
Speaker 2: Ranked Was, Utah Kansas state AND.
Speaker 4: Byu now The utah even if you want to throw
that one out Because utaw ended up being bad on
the road against K state late in the, season B
yu very late in the. Season and their two losses
are on the road and they weren't. BLOWOUTS i didn't
get blown. Out, yeah they Beat Mississippi, state who's AN sec,
Team so they GOT sec win on their resume as.
Speaker 2: WELL i think what The alabama's going to tell.
Speaker 3: You and the only Reason i'm saying this is Because
i've been just inundated with this, stuff BECAUSE i put
a call out there to, like you, Know, alabama gimme,
fans gimme your.
Speaker 2: Argument, Right, well SO i see.
Speaker 3: The old miss. One they're just gonna yell about strength of. Schedule,
okay but we had the same amount of ranked. WINS i,
know but they're gonna but but in all like the
strength of schedule, metrics That's Alabama's maine and.
Speaker 2: You have, eleven but you have one more. Loss, look you,
bro you ain't got to convince.
Speaker 4: Me you, Know i'm saying like, also like the guns
that are talking to you like, that like you can't
just throw them up that that's it because you have another.
Speaker 3: LOSS i, mean but as what the playoff committee, did,
well they're. STUPID i mean if, look if there's one
thing that we, know it's that the committee will get
on their knees For. ALABAMA i, mean even in a
pre committee, era, Right alabama got to sit home in
twenty eleven watch AN sec championship he, played and they
get to go to The.
Speaker 4: Natty what Two natties when they didn't win their division last.
Speaker 3: Year they literally took an UNDEFEATED acc champion out of
it to put in a one Loss alabama because they
could because a quarterback got hurt and they had to
get out of jail free. Card, like if there is an,
opening you give them an. Inch the committee will take
a mile when it comes, to you, know Pleasuring alabama's,
trunk elephant, trunk.
Speaker 2: Even though the tiny. Trunk it's just me. SO i mean,
Again i'm not surprised by any of this at.
Speaker 3: All i'm just glad that they did it at, least
like at least they made it a coin.
Speaker 2: Flip again, though.
Speaker 3: IF smu, LOSE i don't care if they lose by one.
Hundred if they lose In alabama gets, In i'll accept
it because it is what it. Is but that's just
so so, freak like do more to just lift them
up and help them.
Speaker 2: Out it's. Ridiculous right, NOW i think it's pretty. Fair
it's fifty to.
Speaker 3: Fifty but, YEAH i mean look, AGAIN i think Actually
ole Missing South, CAROLINA i would take head to head
Over alabama right now if they were to.
Speaker 2: Play oh, yeah but, whatever that's. Subjective oh SO i get.
Speaker 4: It how mad would you be if you are THE
acc and you Are, miami that you've got two, losses.
Speaker 2: Both on the.
Speaker 4: ROAD i, mean you could argue That Georgia tech And
syracuse certainly would match you up with The Vandy oklahoma
losses That alabama.
Speaker 2: Had, no you don't, team you. Don't you don't have the.
Wins that's the. Problem they don't.
Speaker 3: Know the problem For miami is At, florida and it
was early in the, season but going To florida and
beating the hell out of them forty one to, seventeen
that looks much better, NOW i. Agree but the problem,
is Like alabama's got all these, like you, know teams
with winning, records the blah blah blah against, them blah
blah blah against In miami just has a weaker slate of.
Wins i'm surely it's The georgia Win. Miami that's the
only thing that's Holding alabama. Up, yeah and well and they,
well it's just like wins over teams like winning, records
Where miami doesn't have. Many, miami why did you, lose?
Speaker 2: Dude, well why did you not go for it on fourth?
Down to the end of That? Syracuse i'm kind of
glad they did because Fran brown gets. DEBAATE i Love Fran,
BROWN i KNOW i don't want to go a whole
off season. Unwashed that's. Yeah and Com, acord what a
sweet data had to be for. Him. Yeah, Uh BUT i.
Speaker 4: Just feel like we're just we're acting Like bama has
two losses And i'm not going about, you talking about. Everybody,
Yeah it's like we're we're throwing the resume up there
and we're like going debating Against miami Against Arizona, state
and we're acting like they had the same amount of,
Losses like that extra loss has to mean, Something BUT
i feel like they're. Not it doesn't because they're glazing.
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WINNER i want to get into this more later in the.
Show we got flustering coming. UP i want more later
in the. SHOW i had it for this last, segment
but you, know recruiting it's going to be kind of
taking over the other show. Today but a huge win
FOR lsu basketball last, night ACC Sec challenge going.
Speaker 2: DOWN lsu PLAYING fsu.
Speaker 3: And eighty five seventy five in THE, pmac Losing Jalen
reid immediately to a knee. Sprain we'll know more later
today as to how serious the injury. Is but to
rally great, defense, fast high tempo, offense and another big
out of conference. Win ls you know what's seven to
one or eight and one on the, year this far
seven and one on the, year doing all the workout Of. Conference,
again the scary part is maybe that THE sec went
nine to one in this, challenge so like conference play
is going to be a beast here. Too four UNSEEN
i think McMahon's postgame press conference last night talking about
how there were some analytics that show, that like thus,
far THE sec would be like one of the best
confers in the last like twenty years or something insane like.
That BUT lsu doing the out of conference work and
really gaining in confidence as you hurtle towards conference.
Speaker 4: Play so you HAD lsu Beat Florida, state you Had
tennessee Beat, Syracuse oklahoma Beachs Georgia TECH a and M Betwig,
forests ol Missbeats, Louisville arkansas Beats, Miami georgia Smashes Notre,
Dame missouri beats Cal, In South carolina Beats Boston. College so,
yeah it is funny enough that the only loss that
you had was the number four team in the. Country
losing to Like clemson is good, THOUGH i mean they
made a run last year in the.
Speaker 2: Tournament they were seven to one coming in to the.
Speaker 4: Game but, yeah THE sec is going to be stacked
and it is going to be there's gonna be a
lot of parody there, too in the middle of the
conference fighting for those.
Speaker 3: Spots, yeah to be very exciting men's college basketball, season
and coach mccmahon has me feeling pretty good by the
rection and he's got this program moving an. Hour one
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