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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen. What What's going to happen? What?

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<v Speaker 1>I welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Today's episode is

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<v Speaker 1>very very exciting for me. Actually, I have mentioned numerous

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<v Speaker 1>times on the show that I was very much interested

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<v Speaker 1>in Native American and tribal stuff. And I've even had

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the past come on Thrash. He came on

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<v Speaker 1>and did I think in two or three parts series.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been very interested in the Mickbax because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had mentioned on the show a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>That I really wanted to cover that topic. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really willing to spend the time to do it myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know anybody to really do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Darlene happy to be listening and happened to hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Me up on Twitter and she was like, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>could definitely come on and cover the Midmax and this

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<v Speaker 2>and that, you know, from like experience in her own life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, really, So I gave us some time.

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<v Speaker 2>She made us shit ton of slides and obviously has

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of notes as well, and she came She's

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<v Speaker 2>on the show today to present the slide Show for

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<v Speaker 2>the Mickmax, so very interesting stuff in there. I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking through some of the slides. I think for the

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<v Speaker 2>people into the occult you'll find this is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I've said on the show before, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think this might help, you know, solidify my idea

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<v Speaker 2>and theory that you know, some secret societies or some

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<v Speaker 2>brands of occultism might have borrowed Native American symbolism as

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<v Speaker 2>well and used it. So it's just interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>it come back around and like how it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a normal symbol for some people. Other people

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea what the hell it is, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just weird. It's like how did that? How did that

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<v Speaker 2>disconnect happen? But it's wild, So, uh, you're very excited

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But before I.

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<v Speaker 2>Introduced Darlene, let me used to introduce Judith the Loon.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Judith?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for having me, Darlene. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 4>see the what you've accumulated about this Native American tribe

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody else. You could catch me on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 4>on X as the Loon, and I'm also on Spreaker

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<v Speaker 4>as a normal podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you nice, nice great stuff and Darlene, what is

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<v Speaker 2>going on? How are you I guess letting you? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess let people know whatever you want to introduce yourself with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thanks Nick first, and hi Judith. So my name

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<v Speaker 5>is Darlene. And although my name is Santa Paz, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a MCMC name. I myself am not a MCMC. My

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<v Speaker 5>ex husband was Mick Mack. So I was married and

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<v Speaker 5>lived on the reservation for more than half my life,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I was really immersed in the culture. I

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<v Speaker 5>lived on the reservation, like I said, and my ex

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<v Speaker 5>husband was a practitioner of Native spirituality, and so was

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<v Speaker 5>his family, his father, his uncles, so they were all

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<v Speaker 5>pipe keepers, they were lodge keepers and sun dancers, and

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<v Speaker 5>so it was just very present in my life.

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<v Speaker 6>These legends were present.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything I'm going to talk about I saw with my

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<v Speaker 5>own eyeball.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this was my experience.

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<v Speaker 5>And also when my husband was chief for a while,

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<v Speaker 5>we got to travel quite a bit and meet all

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of other tribes and all kinds of people and

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<v Speaker 5>see everything and museums and and so I have a

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<v Speaker 5>very unique kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of experience through my lived experience.

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<v Speaker 5>And one other thing that we had, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>mention was on the Residenvation. About thirty years ago, we

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<v Speaker 5>had a tourist destination called the Micmac Experience, and you

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<v Speaker 5>could come and there was a museum, and there was

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<v Speaker 5>a little restaurant and a gift shop and canoe rentals,

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<v Speaker 5>and there.

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<v Speaker 6>Was also an actual.

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<v Speaker 5>Medicine man that would take you on a guided tour

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<v Speaker 5>and talk about many of the things I want to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about tonight. So this is kind of the basis

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<v Speaker 5>of my knowledge and experience of the Makemac. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what I want us to start with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you lived it for a long time. I

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<v Speaker 1>lived around it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean yeah, I've seen the ceremonies, Like even to

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<v Speaker 5>this day, I still smudge every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, okay, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So we can start. You can bring up the slides

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<v Speaker 5>if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, slides, look at this correct.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's have questions about me.

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<v Speaker 1>All the Micmac.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, so we're gonna look at who are the Micmac,

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<v Speaker 5>what are their beliefs, their folklore, their customs, mythologies and practices,

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<v Speaker 5>and why they've been so important throughout history. We will

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<v Speaker 5>find that from the Vikings the French, to the Knights, Templar,

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<v Speaker 5>the Jesuits and even the Mormons. The Macmac nation has

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<v Speaker 5>been woven into the many stories, histories, and the fabric

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<v Speaker 5>of North America. So their origins go far as far

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<v Speaker 5>back as the mound builders before them. They adapt well

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<v Speaker 5>to newcomers and are well experienced and practiced in diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 5>Their legacy endures, yet few know them. If we can

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<v Speaker 5>try to imagine what history looked like from the shores

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<v Speaker 5>of Migamagi, which is the mcmac land, who would we

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<v Speaker 5>witness landing on the shores over the centuries. What does

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<v Speaker 5>history look like through the lens of the Micmac, And

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<v Speaker 5>who and where are the mcmac today. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>look at Oh, so we'll look at the slide. So

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<v Speaker 5>the people they're known as the people of the Dawn,

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<v Speaker 5>the keepers of the Eastern Door, and it's also been

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<v Speaker 5>called the Eastern Gate. Now there's not a strict determination

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<v Speaker 5>of what that means, but I have a theory of

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<v Speaker 5>what I think it means. Because of where the mouth

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<v Speaker 5>of the Saint Lawrence River is, which is mcmac territory,

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<v Speaker 5>which enters right into the center of North America. It

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<v Speaker 5>was their sort of duty to guard that portal or entry.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my theory. And they were also called the children

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<v Speaker 5>of the Light. They were the first men to greet

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<v Speaker 5>grandfather's son niscom every day. They occupy the eastern provinces

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<v Speaker 5>of Canada as well as Maine, and the territory later

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<v Speaker 5>became known as Acadia with the arrival of the French

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<v Speaker 5>in sixteen oh four. And at the bottom, I had

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<v Speaker 5>an interesting note that I kept seeing. The British were

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<v Speaker 5>known to call them the tarantines, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>what that means or why they called him that, but

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was quite common. And the picture I

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<v Speaker 5>think is really interesting. You can see he has two

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<v Speaker 5>red crosses, so this is called Lama Cardien. And this

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<v Speaker 5>is a depiction of actually a Mick MacMahon, and you

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<v Speaker 5>can see us. I don't know if it's tattoos or

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<v Speaker 5>just drawings of two red crosses, a son and two

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<v Speaker 5>serpents on his chest.

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<v Speaker 6>So I thought that looked pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 5>And these are done by a guy named Jacques Grasse

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<v Speaker 5>de Saint Sava in the late seventeen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 6>He was a graphic designer known for producing.

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<v Speaker 5>These hand colored engravings of North American Indians. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>the mcmac man or Acadian man. So you can go

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<v Speaker 5>to the next line there. So, the mcmac are the

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<v Speaker 5>easternmost native tribe in Canada. Their traditional territory consists of

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<v Speaker 5>the maritime provinces. There's five tribes that make up the

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<v Speaker 5>Wabi Naki confederacy, which predates the European arrival. They're known

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<v Speaker 5>as the people. Yeah, I read that already. So traditionally

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<v Speaker 5>they were semi nomadic hunter gatherers, renowned for their basket

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<v Speaker 5>making skills, their birch park canoes, as well as the

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<v Speaker 5>art of porcupine quill crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Their knowledge of medicines and plants was highly regarded and

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<v Speaker 5>eagerly studied by early settlers, and.

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<v Speaker 6>They were known to keep a lot of their medicine.

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<v Speaker 5>On birch bark scrolls, which the modern medicine society still uses.

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<v Speaker 5>So this depiction here shows the traditional dress of the Micmac.

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<v Speaker 5>The woman is seated and wearing the traditional peaked hat,

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<v Speaker 5>peaked cap, and traditional ribbon dress, and the gentleman is

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<v Speaker 5>wearing what's called the captain's coat or the chief's coat.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called the captain's coat because it seems that it

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<v Speaker 5>was originally gifted by a French captain and adapted by

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<v Speaker 5>all the chiefs and decorated with their traditional motifs. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>you can go to the next slide. So there's a

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<v Speaker 5>close up of the peak cap, which is it's Algonquin

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<v Speaker 5>tribes are known to wear these cats, but the micmac

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<v Speaker 5>one is unique and it's it's quite like.

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<v Speaker 6>The freezing cap we see on the right.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's the Frisian cap also at the top, and

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<v Speaker 5>I included the bottom right, the little red cap is

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<v Speaker 5>the French Revolution cap, so that would have been you

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<v Speaker 5>can see kind of a lineage through Europe and France

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<v Speaker 5>of this cap moving to the west somehow.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll show you in the next You.

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<v Speaker 1>Said the same thing with that Jackson, the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with that jack.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Interesting, I'll show the next slide, will show and

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<v Speaker 5>there's smurfy by the way, because he wears a Frisian

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<v Speaker 5>cap too. He's smurfing. Okay, yeah, you can go to

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<v Speaker 5>the next So this is a closed up of a

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<v Speaker 5>chief coat that was gifted to Captain Henry o'hallahan and

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<v Speaker 5>was made a mcmac Honorary Chief in eighteen forty one.

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<v Speaker 5>Traditional for Galia would have included a sash at the

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<v Speaker 5>waist and leggings, and male headdress would consist of a

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<v Speaker 5>headband decorated with feathers, so not like the Western Plains

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<v Speaker 5>Indian big headdress that we think of sometimes.

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<v Speaker 6>These are mostly.

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<v Speaker 5>More narrow and straight up with a headband. And it

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<v Speaker 5>said that pre European styles were such to be similar

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<v Speaker 5>but crafted with skins. The Micmac were eager to trade

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<v Speaker 5>furs for cloths and quickly gain mastery in decorating and

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<v Speaker 5>embellishing them. So they were wild about cloth and they

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<v Speaker 5>loved the ease at with which they could decorate them,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they became very decorated.

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<v Speaker 1>That is dope, right, that is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 5>So the next the bottom one there is an actual

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<v Speaker 5>captain's coat, so you can see kind of the the

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<v Speaker 5>original version and the Micmac version eventually. And then the

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<v Speaker 5>top one so.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and the little brown cap up there that was

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<v Speaker 5>a French sailor's cap, which also is reminiscent of that

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<v Speaker 5>French Revolution cap and the Friesian cap. Again we can

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<v Speaker 5>go to the next line. So there I have a

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<v Speaker 5>map just in case people aren't familiar with the Maritimes.

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<v Speaker 5>So the green part is New Brunswick, that blue part

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<v Speaker 5>is Nova Scotia, the red part is Prince Edward Island.

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<v Speaker 5>And so there's the flag.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh hey, Old World.

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<v Speaker 5>So the flag at the bottom we just saw on

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<v Speaker 5>Old World. Micmac's logo is the Micmac Grand Council Tribe.

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<v Speaker 6>Now it is an exact mirror.

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<v Speaker 5>All of the Templar flag. So the Templar flag, the

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<v Speaker 5>star and the moon are inversed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little that's interesting. What's that?

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<v Speaker 6>So we can go to the next slide.

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<v Speaker 5>Now for the next parts. I'm just gonna be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>I am not fluent in Mick Mac. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>these words I've learned and heard throughout my life, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not fluent, and my pronunciation I apologize in advance.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna do my best. So these these are sacred symbols,

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<v Speaker 5>often seen the most significant ones in Mick Mac culture.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have the eight point at star, which we

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<v Speaker 5>see everywhere still today like Grandma's will make blankets with

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<v Speaker 5>which is it's a sacred object for sure. Next to

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<v Speaker 5>that we have the medicine wheel with the same four

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<v Speaker 5>sacred colors. And this is a teaching tool. This has

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<v Speaker 5>many many lessons to teachers used for the four seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>At the bottom, we have the four medicines. There's lots

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<v Speaker 5>of lessons there. And so the four medicines at the

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<v Speaker 5>bottom are sage, cedar, sweet grass, and tobacco. And so

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<v Speaker 5>these are used for offerings like for smudging, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>Something, you give one of these as an offering.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know the breakdown for the colors those four

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<v Speaker 4>sacred colors please as well?

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<v Speaker 5>each one represents people like races, elements, and and they'll

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<v Speaker 5>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Also basically also like the chemical colors too, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Yeah, the chemical chemical colors. Yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Albato rubato and cintronet whatever, the citrine type of Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the same colors too.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh. And didn't you say that the Golden Dawn. Was

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<v Speaker 5>it the colors or just the shape?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something with the pentacle. I think it's very close

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, so yeah, these are these colors are are

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<v Speaker 5>seen in many motifs and like designs, in dresses, ribbon dresses,

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<v Speaker 2>Just real quick, instead of the white, there would be

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, yeah, so oh so this is.

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<v Speaker 6>In the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>The giver of life. Next comes the sun Nis come

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<v Speaker 5>is really important, okay in Micmac culture, because your shadow

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<v Speaker 5>connection to the ancestors. So in a bit I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>the shadow is your connection to all of your ancestors.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very important. Next week get to Earth, which is Utsigamu,

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<v Speaker 5>the place where we stand, and the drums signifies her heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 5>Next came glues Cap. Now I don't know if everybody's

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<v Speaker 5>character of the micmac. He's a teacher, he's a leader,

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<v Speaker 5>he's a magician, and I'm gonna talk about him a

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<v Speaker 5>East direction. Then came grandmother Nukumi. She represents wisdom. She

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<v Speaker 5>She is love. She's born of a leaf and she

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<v Speaker 5>represents North. And so that item on the right there,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a coin that was minted by the Royal Canadian

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<v Speaker 5>mint that depicts the mcmac creation story, and it has

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<v Speaker 5>the eight pointed star with seven stars around it in

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<v Speaker 5>the center there with the moose, and there on the

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<v Speaker 5>left we can see gluse Cap with his feather and

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<v Speaker 5>the lightning. We can see the mother at the top

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<v Speaker 5>with her leaf. We can see grandmother at the bottom

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<v Speaker 5>and Nedawansen in the west.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's great.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you can go to the next the ape when

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<v Speaker 7>it's star the stars surrounding it was is each of

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<v Speaker 7>those stars meant for each of the tribes, the different

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<v Speaker 7>tribes in that area.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Actually, I think the next fly talks about the

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<v Speaker 5>number seven. So and because the number seven is really

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<v Speaker 5>really important. Yeah, it's the number for Macmac. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>a sacred and significant number. You get the sacred the

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<v Speaker 5>seven sacred directions. You have east, southwest, north, above, below,

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<v Speaker 5>and center. You have the seven worlds of creation. You

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<v Speaker 5>have the seven sacred teachings, which are love, respect, honesty, courage, wisdom, truth,

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<v Speaker 5>and humility. The seven districts, the seven finest prophecy, which

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<v Speaker 5>is an end Times prophecy.

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<v Speaker 6>We have the seven sacred parts of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Head, which are the two ears, the two eyes, the

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<v Speaker 5>two nostrils, and the mouth. The seven sisters, which are

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<v Speaker 5>the seven stars of pladies. There's lots of legends concerning those,

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<v Speaker 5>and also the seven sparks of the Sacred fire, which

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<v Speaker 5>again I'll get into that with the gluose cap legend.

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<v Speaker 6>So seven is.

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<v Speaker 5>All over the place. Oh, here we go. Here's the

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<v Speaker 5>creatures and beasts of the Micmac world. So the world

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<v Speaker 5>of the Micmac was inhabited by a variety of goblins, cannibals, magicians, witches, elves, fairies, dwarfs,

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<v Speaker 5>and even mermaids.

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<v Speaker 4>They have their own history that's similar to fairies, but most.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they have all of it. Yeah, they like nature's

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<v Speaker 5>spirits are more elementals, maybe because there's like the mermaids,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance, those are water spirits, so they have the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to manipulate the element if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So that one of the more popular ones and

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<v Speaker 5>scary is the Chinu. He's a giant ice cannibal with

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<v Speaker 5>an icy heart. Well, his his heart turns to ice

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<v Speaker 5>when he becomes chinu in the shape of a human man.

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<v Speaker 5>And then to kill this Chinu you have to you

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<v Speaker 5>have to make him throw up this icy heart and

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<v Speaker 5>then throw it in a fire. They're similar to the

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<v Speaker 5>wendigos of the Western tribes and traditions. Then we have

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<v Speaker 5>boot a lot of moods. Those are stone dwarfs and

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<v Speaker 5>they're Simil or two like the little gnome at the

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<v Speaker 5>top there.

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<v Speaker 6>They're they're kind of playful characters. They're the little people.

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<v Speaker 5>And they live in in the forests and they have

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<v Speaker 5>little tiny canoes and they have stories of children coming

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<v Speaker 5>upon them and the bu Lata mood inviting them into

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<v Speaker 5>the canoe. And so the children, of course are way bigger,

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<v Speaker 5>and they say, we can't get in there because the

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<v Speaker 5>whole canoe will tip, and they say, oh, get in,

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<v Speaker 5>And as soon as that they put one foot in,

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<v Speaker 5>they start shrinking to the size of the little people.

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<v Speaker 5>So they have magical powers. And actually they're still very

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<v Speaker 5>present in modern culture. Like I when I was my

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<v Speaker 5>kids were growing up, everybody talks.

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<v Speaker 6>About Boodhlata mooch.

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<v Speaker 5>If something went missing in your house, you blame budd

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<v Speaker 5>Lata mooch if it or they move it. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 5>look for something and then you find it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 5>They play tricks on you. They still talk about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna date myself, but it almost sounds like the

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<v Speaker 4>sours of a little cartoon. Unless you grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>the eighties, you don't know this. Cartoons called the Littles.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I remember the littles, yes, little.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm wondering if this was like the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the prototype for them to come up with that cartoon.

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<v Speaker 5>The Chicken or the Egg. Maybe, I'm not sure. So

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<v Speaker 5>then we have the Guques, who is a hairy man

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<v Speaker 5>eating ogre.

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<v Speaker 6>He is half man, half beast.

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<v Speaker 5>And is known to carry away children in a basket

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<v Speaker 5>on his back. That creature at the bottom corner is Screctamo,

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<v Speaker 5>So he's the ghost of an evil sorcerer. He's a

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<v Speaker 5>revenant and undead and he's a vampire. He lives in

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<v Speaker 5>ghost World, which I'm going to talk about soup. Then

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<v Speaker 5>we have sabawel New which are the mermaids. These are

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<v Speaker 5>nature spirits and they're called halfway people people of the water,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're alluring and dangerous. We have Jipijum, which is

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<v Speaker 5>the horned sea serpent. Now this is a creature that

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<v Speaker 5>can be as small as a worm or as big

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<v Speaker 5>as a whale.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a shape shifter in.

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<v Speaker 5>Size and he will show up at the end times.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we have Wimpy who's a giant magician and

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<v Speaker 5>enemy of gluse Cat. There's so many legends of these two,

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<v Speaker 5>like messing around and trying to trying to off each other,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they're like mortal enemies forever. So we can

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<v Speaker 5>go to the next line if.

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<v Speaker 3>You want, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have to ask a question before you get

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<v Speaker 4>because especially decide We're gonna have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of questions. But it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to figure out whether a lot of these, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the historical depictions were influenced by the French, because they're

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<v Speaker 4>they're up in Canada.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct the French are, yes, for sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Me know this.

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<v Speaker 4>The tribe is originally from up up there, the big Mac. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>in the so I'm trying to figure out the influence

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<v Speaker 4>that they had. Did the French have the influence or

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<v Speaker 4>did it? When they got together, it was like the

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<v Speaker 4>French was sharing their.

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<v Speaker 5>Their well, they loved each other. The French and the

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<v Speaker 5>make Mac were very friendly for for a century and

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<v Speaker 5>a half. They had what was known as treaties of

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<v Speaker 5>peace and friendship. They were known to intermary uh and

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<v Speaker 5>had a long term peaceful relationship and ship with each other.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of cultural exchanges. That's why we see

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<v Speaker 5>the clothing of the chief slowly becoming quite French appearing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh thanks, old girl, most yeah, I said, give me

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<v Speaker 5>a break. Yeah, I forgot what I was saying before

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<v Speaker 4>No, actually you did answer it about how they intermingled

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<v Speaker 4>and the culture. Yeah, because I'm just while they were

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<v Speaker 4>sharing their exchanges when they first met and everything, the

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<v Speaker 4>relationship between the two, like they would share their tails,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was wondering if it was a conversation that

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<v Speaker 4>either they.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the stories that they were being told or they were.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, your version of this this boogeyman is this

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<v Speaker 4>for us, which actually is would be fascinating that it

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<v Speaker 4>was a letter because they were worlds apart, oceans apart,

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<v Speaker 4>and they come together, had no contact with each other,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, we have similar boogeyman's and similar similar

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<v Speaker 4>things like the Gnomes and the Mermaids. Well, Mermaids is

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<v Speaker 4>known every culture that ever has mermaids, but these other

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<v Speaker 4>similar ones, it is is astounding.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like that you pick there's a Norse and times

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<v Speaker 5>during the more I don't know how to say it,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a giant snake and they both show up

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<v Speaker 5>at the end time battle. Yeah. But actually, Judith, you

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<v Speaker 5>had a good question about the French and the micmac relations.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have a really good interesting story that I

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<v Speaker 5>think will depict that about a man named Chief Member two.

424
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<v Speaker 5>Now him is a spectacular character. The more I read

425
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 5>about this guy, the more I wish I could get

426
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 5>in a time machine and go meet him. He is

427
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 5>six foot something, broad of shoulder, and wore a full beard. Okay,

428
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 5>this is in the fifteen hundreds, No, Mick Max were

429
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 5>not known to have facial hair, but he was proud

430
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<v Speaker 5>to wear a red beard. Red whiskers he had, and

431
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 5>so he was the grand Chief at the time. He

432
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<v Speaker 5>met Jacques Cartier in fifteen thirty four, when he was

433
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<v Speaker 5>I think twenty nine years old, so he was born

434
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<v Speaker 5>in fifteen eleven, I think so. By the time Port

435
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Royal was established in Nova Scotia, which is now in sixteen.

436
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<v Speaker 6>Four, I think.

437
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 5>Member two is still the chief. He's one hundred and

438
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 5>four years old now, and he's meeting a gentleman, like

439
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 5>a fine fancy French lad called less cat Beau I think,

440
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 5>or no, I think I haven't written down. But anyways,

441
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:03.839
<v Speaker 5>he makes this upper class officer from France who absolutely

442
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 5>adores him. So now, traditionally in French like settlements, the

443
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 5>hierarchy was maintained, so the officers didn't eat with the

444
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 5>lesser people.

445
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 6>There was a strict sort of separation.

446
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 5>But when they would invite this chief and his men over,

447
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 5>these men could dine with anyone anywhere they wanted, with

448
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 5>officers and whoever. But the officers were enthralled by the

449
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 5>stories that this chief would tell. They were in song,

450
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 5>and they were, they would become animals in front of

451
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 5>their eyes. And so they were just like mesmerized by

452
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 5>the stories this chief told they and they believed every word.

453
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 5>They didn't doubt these almost absurd stories adventures he'd had.

454
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<v Speaker 6>He owned a boat called I think it's a shellop.

455
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 5>It's a big it's not a canoe, it's a big

456
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 5>seafaring ship that he was very proud of. That he

457
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<v Speaker 5>would take out to see and meet the incoming Europeans.

458
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<v Speaker 5>And so when he was one hundred and four years old,

459
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<v Speaker 5>he took his men on a war party to Maine

460
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 5>to avenge the death of his nephew.

461
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<v Speaker 6>I think it was at one hundred and four.

462
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 5>So he was gone at that time for an entire winter,

463
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 5>and the men at Port Royal were said to be

464
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:32.799
<v Speaker 5>so sad at their departure and longed for their safe

465
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 5>return so they could be regaled with new tales of

466
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 5>their adventures of this incredible man. And so when he

467
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 5>returned there was a major feast and a real welcome back.

468
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 5>So I think you can see the relationship there. And

469
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 5>the letters they wrote back to France about this man

470
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 5>is where I'm getting all these details, and it's pretty incredible.

471
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 5>I think, how they respected each other so well.

472
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 4>It actually puts the French, French and Indian War into.

473
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 3>A better perspective too.

474
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they were allies.

475
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 5>Well. So the first the previous winter before Member two

476
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 5>went on his war party had been I think the

477
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 5>first winter at Port Royal, which was a very difficult winter,

478
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 5>and Chief Member two and his men were said to

479
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 5>have spied them and said, these men will not make

480
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 5>it unless we help them. So they did and so

481
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 5>and that started these really lifelong, respectful relationships between the men.

482
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<v Speaker 5>So we can go to the next.

483
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 6>Light, Nick if you want.

484
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 5>So. There's tons and tons of petroglyphs out here. These

485
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 5>are mostly all found in Nova Scotia. The first one

486
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 5>there is, of course, the eight pointed Star. This is

487
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 5>found in Bedford Baron's Nova Scotia. Notice that there's some

488
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 5>do Dad, they're up in the right corner. Now rarely

489
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 5>is this shown as an entire photo. Usually you see

490
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 5>the eight pointed star, but not the little jigger at

491
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 5>the top, and that's said to be something to do

492
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 5>with the phases of the moon.

493
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 6>So I thought that was a cool one to add there.

494
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 5>The second one is a picture depicting well, a giant ship,

495
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 5>a tall ship, and what seems to be some shape

496
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 5>shifting creatures. It seemed to be met half men, half

497
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 5>trees or antlers, I'm not sure.

498
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 3>And that is.

499
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Also a nova Scotia. The next one is a strange one.

500
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 5>This is a etching of one of the petroglyphs, but

501
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 5>it shows a six pointed star with a letter in

502
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 5>the center, and I thought, well, that's strange, and some.

503
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Sort of a sailboat.

504
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 5>What's that?

505
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Is it a g.

506
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 5>What do you see? Yeah, I'm not sure what the

507
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 5>significance is, but I thought it's interesting. It's a lot

508
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 5>of stars. The one next to it is actually still

509
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 5>used today. This isn't etching as well. This is still

510
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 5>used by this h the Grand Council. This is an

511
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 5>ancient symbol still used today. I don't know if you

512
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 5>can really make out the bottom one too. Well, this

513
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 5>is a wild scene. At the bottom there's a little

514
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 5>Davy Crockett looking guy, looks like he's got like raccoon

515
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 5>hat or something. And then there's the giant moose, and

516
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 5>there's a man on a horse and a couple of priests. Maybe,

517
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure. A lot going on.

518
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see the Davy crock.

519
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 3>You see.

520
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering if that symbolized like maybe a hunt and

521
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 4>during the time of this drum do you know if

522
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 4>the French settlers were there by then?

523
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 5>It looks like priests or Jesuits maybe because they're they're

524
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 5>the ones on the left there there looked like they're

525
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 5>wearing robes and holding across to me.

526
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 6>But I could be.

527
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Wrong, definitely does I'm not sure both both the tribe

528
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 1>and some sort of white people together.

529
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what any of them mean. Honestly,

530
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 5>I just know there. I don't even know when they

531
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 5>were were scratched the well, the one next to it,

532
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 5>the number six there. This is actually a much much

533
00:34:54.119 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 5>bigger petroglyph. It actually shows I think three surps a

534
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 5>sun and what I think is a woman, but I'm

535
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 5>not sure what the significance is there either it could

536
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 5>be a legend. And then the last one at the

537
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 5>bottom is them showing a whale hunt, which they did

538
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 5>on a canoe. Yeah, you can go to the next

539
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 5>side if you sure. So. Now we're going to get

540
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 5>into the cosmology what the world looks like. So they

541
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 5>call North America Turtle Island. That's the name traditionally given.

542
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 5>They followed a thirteen month lunar calendar. So if you

543
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 5>see at the back of the turtle there the turtle

544
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 5>shell that's used as a lunar calendar. So the inner

545
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 5>thirteen scales represent thirteen months and then the outer twenty

546
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 5>eight scales represent the day's twenty eight dies. The night

547
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 5>sky was called the cavern of darkness holding the stars.

548
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 5>It's similar to the Egyptian nut. The Milky Way was

549
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 5>known as the Milky River, and it's the way that

550
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 5>which guides the world above the sky, which we're going

551
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 5>to get to in a minute. This is where the

552
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 5>spirits go.

553
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 4>This is.

554
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 6>The way, the way.

555
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 5>It takes a whole year once you pass to travel

556
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 5>the Milky Way back to the stars and so the

557
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 5>the Mickmac, well, I guess there's six parallel worlds. So

558
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 5>we'll get to the next slide.

559
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I did.

560
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what it was exactly what it was.

561
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>It could have been in some sort of tribe. Well,

562
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 2>when I did cover Jamatra and Cypher's it was like

563
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a two or three part series that did with Lisa.

564
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I did mention how they showed how they did use

565
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the shell of a turtle is like a way to

566
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>make some sort of like sigil. I think it might

567
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 2>have been a four by four square on the back

568
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 2>of a turtle or something. So I even showed how

569
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 2>that the back of a turtle is used in a

570
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>different way with numerology.

571
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that interesting. Well, each each month represents a different animal,

572
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>a different like occurrence in nature. It has a name.

573
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 5>M hmm, but I don't know. I wouldn't try to

574
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 5>pronounce them.

575
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>We got newe April April eighth, New Week.

576
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 6>Coming soon April eighth.

577
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's the first writing of the Book of the Law,

578
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 2>the first book, the first part of the book.

579
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eighth, nice and tenth that was written.

580
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 5>So in the mcmac world, there's six parallel worlds. Okay,

581
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 5>So the word the first world is the world.

582
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 6>Above the sky.

583
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 5>So this is the Milky Way, the spirit world, the

584
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 5>path to the land of the dead. It's where the

585
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 5>ancestors dwell. It's the realm of the masters. It's the

586
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 5>domain of spirit beings. And it's where the stars and

587
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 5>celestial objects.

588
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 6>Are used for navigation.

589
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 5>So the stars are fixed, but the planets obviously move,

590
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 5>so they would refer to those as the traveling stars.

591
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 6>So it kind of works like a giant clock where.

592
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 5>The star the fixed stars are like the numbers on

593
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 5>the clock, and the planets moving are like the marker

594
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 5>of time, if that makes any sense. So that's the

595
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 5>world above the sky. Next is the world above the earth,

596
00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 5>so this is sky world. So it's the realm all

597
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.800
<v Speaker 5>of the birds. It's there's a giant man eating bird

598
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 5>also that lives in this realm, and it's it's what's

599
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 5>referred to as the bird's eye view for the shaman.

600
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 5>So a shaman would we'd learn it's kind of like

601
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 5>the three eyed raven maybe on the Game of Thrones.

602
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 5>They have to learn to embody the spirit of an

603
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 5>animal in order to gain the vision. Does that make sense?

604
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 5>So they would be able to gain a bird's eye view.

605
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 5>So the third one is the Earth world. So that's

606
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 5>the material realm where we live. It's the physical world,

607
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 5>but it is a temporary realm. It's the world of decay, seasons, change,

608
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 5>and it's very transient. Next comes the world, the World

609
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 5>beneath the Water. This is where Jipi gung limbs, the whales,

610
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 5>the mermaids, sabawell news.

611
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 6>And it is affected by Grandmother Moon.

612
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 5>This world, the water world.

613
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, makes sense tides.

614
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 5>Then we have the world beneath the Earth, and this

615
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 5>one is kind of interesting. It's accessible. It's an accessible realm.

616
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 5>You can get there through secret tunnels, mountains.

617
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 6>It's not an underworld.

618
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't have like undead creatures, but it's another realm

619
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 5>inhabited by unique dwellers. And any any Bowin who's a

620
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 5>magician or a medicine man has to travel through this

621
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 5>world to gain power and knowledge and wisdom.

622
00:40:58.880 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 1>HM.

623
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.360
<v Speaker 5>So and then all around it you see what is

624
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 5>known as ghost World. So ghost world's the world between worlds.

625
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 5>It's a spirit world, a land of lost souls like

626
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 5>the schaechtamok Undid witch doctor. It's a dangerous realm. It

627
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 5>can be tricky or distorted. It's full of dangers for

628
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 5>the uninitiated. But a shaman could travel there for for

629
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 5>a medicine. Even shamans are are have access to all

630
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 5>of the worlds.

631
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 6>It's like layers of density.

632
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 5>If you think about it, the one the top one

633
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 5>is lighter than air. Then you have air and earth,

634
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 5>and then more more and more dense the more you go. Yeah,

635
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 5>so we can get to the next one.

636
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

637
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<v Speaker 4>Hmm.

638
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Sounds really interesting. Actually, I even think actually.

639
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 5>Some of this stuff is not even common to to

640
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 5>modern Mickmax. This is like really rooted in the in

641
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 5>the tradition, So if someone is living a very sort

642
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 5>of modern life, they may not always know all of

643
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 5>these either.

644
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I like to bring up a comment I guess al

645
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Ali Gregory made about you could spot a few of

646
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 4>these within the literature and different cultures of the different tribes.

647
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Within at least through North America or the creatures.

648
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, the this sixth world level, the sixth world concept

649
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>that you just went over.

650
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, because most most of the time, if you take

651
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 3>a deep yeah, oh you.

652
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Say this one actually says the show the show?

653
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 5>Maybe what does it say?

654
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh he was referring the turtles.

655
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

656
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Actually, here's a fun fact, Santa Paz my name is

657
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 5>known as Turtle clan. Oh, and the turtle clan each

658
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 5>each of the seven or there's there's seven try or

659
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 5>clans associated with like a totemorn animal, and so turtle

660
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 5>is responsible for they're wisdom keepers because they're they're ancient,

661
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 5>they're old, they're slow, and their long lives so they

662
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 5>carry wisdom for a long time. So anybody whose turtle clan,

663
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 5>that's that's their their duty.

664
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess she's got Ala Gregory or whatever you call yourself.

665
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 2>You've got a grateful data logo. What do you think

666
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 2>about Terrapin Station and the turtle on that. I've always

667
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>thought that their turtle symbolism was actually a cult, I'll

668
00:43:58.920 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 2>tell you the truth.

669
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 6>A band.

670
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're very spiritual.

671
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, they put from a lot of differences.

672
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 5>You know, if you look at the old any old

673
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 5>album covers, there's a lot of wild stuff out there,

674
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 5>like from the seventies and eighties, like all the Journey

675
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 5>covers is all Egyptian stuff, and so we can go

676
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 5>to the glose cap Yeah, there we go.

677
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 6>So there's Gluose Cap.

678
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 5>So this is an actual statue not far from here.

679
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 5>It's it's really tall. I can't It's like, I don't know,

680
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 5>forty feet tall, and it's gotta be tall. It's huge.

681
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 5>And he's holding a torch. He carries the fire. So

682
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 5>gluse Cap is a benevolent Prometheane figure. He's similar to Quetta,

683
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Quattle or Veracocha figures. He was created from lightning. He's

684
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 5>created from three bolts of lightning, and so the first

685
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 5>bolt of lightning gives him form the form of a man,

686
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 5>but he's still bound to the earth and has no senses.

687
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 5>And so the second bolt of lightning gives him the

688
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 5>five sacred parts of the head. So now he has senses.

689
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 5>He can see and hear and taste and speak, but

690
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 5>he's still bound to the earth. And then comes this

691
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.480
<v Speaker 5>third bolt of lightning, which frees him from the ground

692
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 5>and makes him.

693
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 6>Free to roam. So that's how he is born.

694
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.639
<v Speaker 5>He's the creator of mankind. Now there's a couple. There's

695
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 5>two variations of how he goes about to create mankind.

696
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 5>The first one we mentioned earlier, which is the seventh

697
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Sacred sparks of the Sacred Fire. So it says that

698
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 5>once glues Cap and his grandmother made the sacred the

699
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 5>first sacred fire, seven sparks flew out, and then another

700
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 5>seven sparks, creating the first seven men and seven women

701
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 5>of the Seven Tricks. The other variation speaks of glues

702
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Cap using his arrow to shoot at the ash tree

703
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 5>and created man from ash tree. Yeah, he's also a

704
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 5>shape shifter. He's a magician. He wears a magical belt.

705
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 5>He's responsible for naming all the animals, all.

706
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 6>The plants, and the stars.

707
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 5>He's always accompanied by two dogs or sometimes they're wolves.

708
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 5>And also he's also accompanied by two messengers which are loons.

709
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 5>Hey Loon. He has an evil twin called Malsam. Now

710
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.079
<v Speaker 5>Malson is called the Wolf also, and he is kind

711
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 5>of a trickster, and he likes to go around on

712
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 5>doing things that glues Cap has done. Or he'll create

713
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 5>twins likedine. He'll create what is a medicine. He will

714
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 5>make it a poison, but they look identical, you know.

715
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 5>He just goes around messing things up. So gluse Cap

716
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 5>he departs but promises to return his coming in the

717
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 5>last day, so his departure also has two variations. One

718
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 5>says that he went west, saying to the people, I

719
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 5>go away now, but I shall return again. When you

720
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 5>hear the ground tremble, know that it is I. And

721
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 5>the other variation says that he traveled the great Milky

722
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 5>Way on his canoe to the stars and became the

723
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 5>constellation Orion, the great Hunter, with his two dogs, Ursa

724
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Major and Ursa Minor. Now also Sirius is called the

725
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 5>dog star, which is star found in Ursa Minor. I think,

726
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 5>and he says, when the earth begins to tremble, it

727
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 5>will be time for the great battle gluse Cap versus

728
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 5>Malsam and all the beasts of old in time when

729
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 5>gloose Cap wins and ushers in a great age of peace.

730
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 5>So if you go to the next slide, I'm going

731
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 5>to read you a poem trembles Igdrasil's ash yet standing

732
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 5>groans the aged tree, and the wolf runs. The monsters

733
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 5>Kin goes all with the wolf. The stony hills are

734
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 5>dashed together, the giantesses tottered. Then arises Helene's second grief,

735
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 5>when Odin goes with the wolf to fight. Now, this

736
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 5>is a quote from the volume spot stands as forty seven.

737
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 5>This is a Norse story of Ragnarok. So to me

738
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 5>that was very similar to the end story between the

739
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 5>war between Malsam and blues Cap, with all the beasts,

740
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 5>all the creatures and the serpents.

741
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

742
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 5>So all this is from the Aida, which are thirteenth

743
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:20.400
<v Speaker 5>century Icelandic poems and tales of Odin have many similarities

744
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 5>to mick mac Laura and mythology.

745
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 4>That comment made me. I was talking about, you know,

746
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.440
<v Speaker 4>the exchange of information with the French earlier, but that

747
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 4>and you're linking the Norse history with a lot of

748
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 4>the similarities with their and it almost proves that the

749
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:46.119
<v Speaker 4>Vikings may have gotten there before the French and may

750
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 4>have shared before and shared their co.

751
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 5>We know for sure that since around one thousand AG

752
00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 5>there's settlements in Lonso Meadows, Newfoundland, Viking settlements. These were

753
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 5>not like temporary fishing settlements, these were long term villages.

754
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 5>And so this is.

755
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 6>Way before the French showed up.

756
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.679
<v Speaker 5>And I have begun to see a lot of similarities

757
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 5>in the and mythology and the folklore and the traditions

758
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 5>between the North and the Micmac. Actually there's also a

759
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.840
<v Speaker 5>lot of archaeological evidence linking the Vikings to lots of

760
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:38.920
<v Speaker 5>places in North America, including all the way to Minnesota. Yeah,

761
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 5>there's the what is it called the Kensington Stone in Minnesota.

762
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 5>And there's the Yarmic Runic Stone. Yarmouth Runic Stone, which

763
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 5>is in Nova Scotia is possibly a really left by

764
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Leif Ericson in Nova Scotia.

765
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 4>And I was about to say something in Mark popped

766
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 4>up in the chat as well.

767
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 3>The red headed Indians.

768
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 4>As well, the fact that the chief that you spoke

769
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 4>of earlier had a red beard. I was a little

770
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 4>surprised by that.

771
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 5>I was like, and he was proud of it.

772
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you something funny.

773
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 5>My ex husband had black hair, but when he grew

774
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 5>a beard, he had red whiskers.

775
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>There was some noise, dude knocked up some Mick mac chick,

776
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 1>no doubt.

777
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 5>Actually there's Nick mad Blood in Iceland.

778
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 6>There's a story.

779
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Where is that story? I think it's in another part,

780
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:43.280
<v Speaker 5>but there's definitely a story where in the saga of

781
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 5>Eric the Red, which is a Norse saga, it talks

782
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 5>about how the it wasn't Mick Max, sorry, it was

783
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 5>I think definitely native but I'm not sure if it

784
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 5>was Mick mac. They took these two children to Iceland

785
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 5>native children taught them the Lane language, and and now

786
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 5>there's direct DNA tracing lineage in Iceland back to North America.

787
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 5>So there was a criss crossing between the cultures, I believe.

788
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I totally think so.

789
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Most most definitely there was don't know what this is there?

790
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well there's more. Actually, I have a few more

791
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 5>slides that that gets into that a little bit. I

792
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:33.079
<v Speaker 5>think the next one shows the similarities between blues Cap

793
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 5>and Odin. Oh, and you can notice the tree there,

794
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 5>that's the the Idrisil tree of life. There. Oh, there

795
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 5>you go.

796
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking about.

797
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 5>It's not uncommon to see red whiskers on mcmcmahon.

798
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 6>It's true.

799
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 5>So we can go to the next line. There we go. Okay,

800
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 5>so here's judas as you were saying, similarities between the

801
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 5>care of Odin and glues Cap. Each of them is

802
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:06.519
<v Speaker 5>said to create man from ash tree and the ada

803
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 5>is Odin creates a woman out of elm. I think

804
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.039
<v Speaker 5>they were without senses until they were endowed by the creator.

805
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Odin has two ravens as messengers glues Cap has two loons,

806
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Odin has two wolves as companions. Glues Cap has two dogs.

807
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 5>Odin is present at the final battle of Ragnarok, and

808
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 5>glues Cap based final at the last battle with Malsum.

809
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 5>They each created the dwarves and all the creatures, and

810
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 5>at the end they are accompanied by the giant sea

811
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 5>serpent at the final battle. And you can see similarities

812
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 5>in the symbols as well. So the center one is

813
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 5>the solar cross for the Norse, and on the right

814
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 5>side we have in the center the medicine wheel. Bottom

815
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 5>is each depiction of the eight pointed star, kind of

816
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 5>a variation of the Norse one.

817
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 6>And at the top left is the what do you

818
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.599
<v Speaker 6>call them? The ruins, So this is how.

819
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.719
<v Speaker 5>They show. You get the ruins from the eight pointed star,

820
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 5>which is a mack mac symbol. So the Norse ruins

821
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 5>come from the eight pointed star. Kind of no, I

822
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 5>don't do you.

823
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:36.599
<v Speaker 3>You did mentioned earlier that they might sometimes there were wolves.

824
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 5>In some the legends they call they call them wolves,

825
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 5>so there's a lot of wolf the symbology to which

826
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 5>I think is very Viking. They're the sons of Wolf, right,

827
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 5>the sons of the wolf, and so Malsam is known

828
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 5>as the wolf.

829
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 6>He has sometimes two wolves at his side.

830
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:02.039
<v Speaker 5>It's I find it convincing an interesting.

831
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you also have to like sometimes like this

832
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 2>is how I would put it into context, like, uh,

833
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little loans I'm just taking a guess might

834
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 2>have been more common to see than ravens. So they

835
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 2>just attributed to whatever was around them that they could

836
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>use and see.

837
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So sometimes I wonder if

838
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that's even the difference.

839
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 2>It is just they are recapping it, but they're just

840
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>going to use things that you know, they're equivalent.

841
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 5>We find well, I mean the solar symbol is is

842
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.960
<v Speaker 5>and it goes back as far as as time. So

843
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 5>I think every culture has a solo cross or or

844
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 5>that you know that symbol the circle and the cross.

845
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 4>And we did find out yesterday that the Canadians do

846
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 4>love the loans is. It is a popular It's not

847
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:58.679
<v Speaker 4>popular as popular down here, uh in the US, but

848
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.039
<v Speaker 4>I know it's popular in Canada as well.

849
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 1>This is another reason the Yeah, it's another reason why

850
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I even thought, I'm like, well, the loon is probably

851
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>more normal to see over there than ravens.

852
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 6>Maybe yeah, yeah, Ravens.

853
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 5>Well, there are some, but they're most more of a

854
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 5>western bird, like a western coast, but you do see

855
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 5>them occasionally.

856
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 1>So very interesting.

857
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 5>M So we can go to the next slide. Oh,

858
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 5>this is just a side by side of the cosmology.

859
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:33.119
<v Speaker 5>So the left one is you see in the center

860
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 5>as mid guard you see the axis access in the

861
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 5>poles is the one on the right is the mickmax.

862
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 6>So they're they're quite similar.

863
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just.

864
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 5>Thought that was interesting. Another another parallel for sure. I

865
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 5>thought i'd just throw that in there. You can go

866
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 5>to the next So this shows. So the reason I

867
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 5>included this chariot card is because I do terot, and

868
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 5>so when I was doing the symbols for glues Cap,

869
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.800
<v Speaker 5>I thought, where have I seen all of this before?

870
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 5>So I took out my tarot cards and I was like, huh, well,

871
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 5>there's two sphinxes. Oh, and his dogs are usually a

872
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 5>black and a white glues caps. So when I saw

873
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 5>the chariot card with the black and white sphinx on

874
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 5>his chest, he has an eight pointed star, he wears

875
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 5>a crown of stars, and he's a canopy of stars

876
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 5>above his head. He holds a magic wand and he

877
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 5>has a belt, so glues Cap also has a magic belt.

878
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if you're familiar with the Crowley

879
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 5>deck the Thoat deck, so that's the one in the

880
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 5>middle there, and he's usually shown depicting in this one

881
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 5>what's referred to as the Holy Grail, and that kind

882
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 5>of gets into the later part of the presentation. But

883
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:14.719
<v Speaker 5>I thought that was interesting that the archetypes are kind

884
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 5>of the same. You see the same symbols appear over

885
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.280
<v Speaker 5>and over again. So that's why I put that there.

886
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying it means anything. I'm just saying I

887
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 5>noticed a lot of symbols. So yeah, we can go

888
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 5>to the next line. So the north from the vikings

889
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 5>in America is becoming I think a more widely accepted theory.

890
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 5>I think archaeology maybe mainstream is losing its grip on

891
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:55.559
<v Speaker 5>the narrative hopefully, so we're looking at also greenland settlements

892
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 5>and like I said, as far back as Minnesota, there's

893
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 5>a Kensington runestone and have a pretty big I think

894
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 5>heritage from Scandinavia. I'm not sure which country is exactly,

895
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 5>but you.

896
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Know what I wanted to mention real quick.

897
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned it earlier, and now when you just said

898
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 2>it again, the Kensington ronstone. This is really interesting because

899
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I think did you mention Knights Templars earlier? Yeah, Scott

900
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Walter from the Knights Templars supposedly, and I saw him

901
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 2>say this live in front of my face. They deciphered

902
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this tablet and supposedly have found the bones of Mary

903
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Jesus and one of the arcs. I saw that that

904
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 2>he's a Knights Templar.

905
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He's open about that.

906
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 5>I know. Well, actually a lot of this Kensington rohnestone

907
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:51.639
<v Speaker 5>is attached to Scott Walter, like he's probably the if

908
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 5>you look up these kind of things, you're going to

909
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.800
<v Speaker 5>come across Cart Walter. He's probably the biggest supporter of

910
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 5>this theory. And he's a he's an actual like forensic geologist.

911
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:05.199
<v Speaker 5>I think.

912
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Something.

913
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Actually I met that guy and walked to Mount Pilot

914
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.239
<v Speaker 2>with him. Oh yeah, yeah, in North Carolina.

915
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:14.280
<v Speaker 5>You have him on your show.

916
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I've actually tried to.

917
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he said he would, but then the guy

918
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 2>never answered me even followed me on Twitter.

919
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I should hit him up again. Maybe, actually, I don't know,

920
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:24.239
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah.

921
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 5>There's always something new coming out.

922
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Well that's another thing too.

923
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy's filming shit, so he's pretty busy,

924
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'll just keep it real like on a podcast.

925
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:33.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he wants to go on a bigger show

926
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>than Morning.

927
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 5>See. So yeah, the Vikings were called, I said earlier,

928
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:50.239
<v Speaker 5>the sons of Wolf or the Wolves of the Seas. Yeah,

929
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 5>and the show is that the map there just shows

930
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:58.239
<v Speaker 5>their their trajectories. They were well well known to sail

931
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:04.119
<v Speaker 5>those seas, often in their classic serpent ships.

932
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 4>It would be, uh, it would be fitting for them

933
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 4>to be called wolves of the sea because till this day,

934
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 4>those those routes are not the kindest.

935
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be the roughest seas. So the fact

936
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:20.280
<v Speaker 3>that they.

937
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 6>There is the what do you call that?

938
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:31.440
<v Speaker 5>The way the do you just follow the currents? There's

939
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 5>there's some way to follow some currents, I think, But

940
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

941
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

942
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 4>Do the Do the Macawic have like stories of the

943
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 4>actual vikings of like them in the past and how

944
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.360
<v Speaker 4>they interacted in the meeting and the exchanges between the two.

945
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Not not from my knowledge. No, I haven't heard any

946
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 5>like like legends and stories about the No, I haven't

947
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 5>m hmm. I'm not saying there isn't. I'm just saying

948
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not aware of any.

949
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they regardless.

950
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it'd be interesting to look into the DNA because

951
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 5>I know, like I know, there's trade there's DNA in

952
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 5>in Europe from mcmac people that were brought over like uh,

953
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 5>they were intermarried and and went to Europe and some

954
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 5>were presented to court and all kinds of things. So

955
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 5>there's lots of stories of micmacs going to Europe. And

956
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.239
<v Speaker 5>I'd like to see, like where's the blood found, because

957
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 5>we know the Mormons claim mcmac blood, So I'd like

958
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 5>to see where where that has spread to. I wonder

959
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 5>if there's a comprehensive study going on.

960
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, that was another reason why I was

961
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.599
<v Speaker 2>very interested in the macmac And you did say that

962
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:04.480
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, and I should have mentioned I totally

963
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:05.920
<v Speaker 2>for guys the whole Mormon thing too.

964
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I find that very interesting how they tell you.

965
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that blew my mind because I like the mcmac

966
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.960
<v Speaker 5>stuff is I know, my whole life, but this part

967
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 5>of the presentation I didn't know anything about, and the

968
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.719
<v Speaker 5>Mormon stuff I didn't know anything about until I had

969
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.880
<v Speaker 5>heard Heidi Love talking about it, and when she started

970
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:32.000
<v Speaker 5>talking about the language and the bloodlines, and I was like,

971
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 5>wait a minute, what is she talking about? How does

972
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:39.000
<v Speaker 5>that even happen? I'd never heard of it. So we're

973
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 5>going to talk about.

974
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 6>That a little later.

975
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe nice, So we can go to.

976
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:53.719
<v Speaker 5>The next slide. Now we get to Acadia. The Acadians.

977
01:03:54.440 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 5>They're the seventeenth century French settlers from western France known

978
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 5>as Bretagne. The Acadian flag there freatures the French flag

979
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 5>with the addition of the yellow star, also a five

980
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:15.599
<v Speaker 5>pointed star. The name of the flag is the Star

981
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 5>of the Sea.

982
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 6>It's called Stella Maurice.

983
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 5>The patron saint of Acadians is Our Lady of Assumption,

984
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 5>the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the national anthem is Ave Maria.

985
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:33.079
<v Speaker 5>Stella's Marian him notice a pattern. So they were deported

986
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 5>in seventeen fifty five, eventually landing in Louisiana. They weren't

987
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.840
<v Speaker 5>deported to Louisiana, but they eventually made their way there

988
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:50.119
<v Speaker 5>and became the Cajuns. So, hey, cousins. I wanted to

989
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:58.079
<v Speaker 5>mention a few things about this. This Acadian flag and

990
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:02.719
<v Speaker 5>the word so stella marius, it means the star of

991
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:07.559
<v Speaker 5>the c. In French. The French word for c is

992
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 5>map m e r. The French word for mother is

993
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 5>also map m e r e, So if you were

994
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 5>to say it, it sounds the same, but there's spelled different.

995
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.199
<v Speaker 5>So it could also be the star of the Mother.

996
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 5>And then you might think, I would think like ish

997
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:28.440
<v Speaker 5>star or the holy Mother or the divine feminine. So

998
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:34.000
<v Speaker 5>I had thought perhaps maybe there's some reason the Acadians

999
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.360
<v Speaker 5>came to the New World. Maybe they were hiding a

1000
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 5>secret to or there were some whispers that they might

1001
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 5>be left over Cathars, which is a whole nother rabbit hole. Yeah,

1002
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 5>so I just thought they were They were fun, little

1003
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.480
<v Speaker 5>little facts. Oh and I wanted to mention.

1004
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 6>Some called the fi duvois.

1005
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:07.360
<v Speaker 5>So there were about eight hundred girls that were sent

1006
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:11.280
<v Speaker 5>to New France by King Louis the fourteenth with a

1007
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 5>dowry paid by him to marry all the French men

1008
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 5>that had been settling here without any lady friendship. So

1009
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 5>they were usually poor, uneducated women, each twelve to twenty five,

1010
01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 5>and modern day descendants of these girls include Hillary Clinton, Madonna,

1011
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 5>and Angelina Jolie. So that's just a fun fair.

1012
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 8>Another rabbit hole to go down, right, Yeah, Well, it

1013
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:47.639
<v Speaker 8>seems like it's so strange how connected France is to everything,

1014
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 8>whether you're looking at Cathars or Templars, or Acadians, or

1015
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 8>even the origin of like, for instance, the Sainclair clan.

1016
01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:01.159
<v Speaker 6>The talk about that a little later.

1017
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:06.199
<v Speaker 5>So it's it's so central to everything that's happening throughout

1018
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 5>history here.

1019
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 6>It affects everything that happens here.

1020
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I somehow have.

1021
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:13.719
<v Speaker 1>More of an influence than people realize.

1022
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I agree, and I think Quebec here in Canada still

1023
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 5>sends boat loads and money to France all the time.

1024
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 6>That's their arrangement.

1025
01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 4>That's why they remember that it wasn't just the British

1026
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 4>that colonized the North America. The French was side by

1027
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:40.239
<v Speaker 4>side with them, yes, and had just as much territory

1028
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.079
<v Speaker 4>act if not more than the original British.

1029
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 5>Well what happened here in Acadia too is because of

1030
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 5>these long term relationships between the Akkadian and the Micmac.

1031
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:56.199
<v Speaker 5>They were allies, that was a team against the British.

1032
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 5>They could not they could not defeat the Micmac if

1033
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 5>they were They're going to fight for each other. So

1034
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:08.760
<v Speaker 5>the British deported the French and weakened the micmac and

1035
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.119
<v Speaker 5>one mm.

1036
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want I don't want to like jump

1037
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.600
<v Speaker 2>too far with like a stretch. But even thinking of

1038
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 2>New Wheat earlier, I mean that would be another female

1039
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>deity associated with stars.

1040
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, Well, the first thing that came to

1041
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.439
<v Speaker 5>mind when I was doing this wordplay with the star

1042
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 5>and the sea and the Mother was Ishar. Kept coming

1043
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.600
<v Speaker 5>to my mind because the star of Ishtar the star

1044
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:41.760
<v Speaker 5>of the mother. Anyways, that's just my association, but it's

1045
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:47.079
<v Speaker 5>very it's very sort of divine, feminine, you know.

1046
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:48.720
<v Speaker 6>Marian blessed Virgin.

1047
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 5>It's very there's a thief, you know, but they're very Catholic.

1048
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Judith, Now, isn't the it's not like a secret thing.

1049
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think you can even find it online.

1050
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 2>The inside temple like the oto, it has like the

1051
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:06.399
<v Speaker 2>five pointed star on the ceiling and then like the

1052
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 2>dark black purple ceiling with it, right, Like, isn't that

1053
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 2>how it's depicted?

1054
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Kind of.

1055
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm an old lady, I'm trying to remember.

1056
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, the reason I'm even bringing that up is that

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01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:21.960
<v Speaker 2>when I noticed when I went to the Sistine Chapel

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01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 2>before they painted, he painted that whole ceiling thing. That's

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01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 2>what it looked like as well before he painted over.

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01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.800
<v Speaker 2>So it just is, uh, you know, it's like kind

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01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.439
<v Speaker 2>of a dark blue thing. So like I'm just wondering,

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01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:39.800
<v Speaker 2>like is there even a connection with like so like

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01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:43.800
<v Speaker 2>even like I kind of Virgin Mary or this type

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01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of shit with the ceiling inside the oto.

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01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very weird.

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01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean because you know, Crowley does even say that

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01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:59.760
<v Speaker 2>he based the mass off of uh Russian Orthodox Catholicism.

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01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 5>Isn't it also the sign for Venus the five pointed.

1070
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Store or no, I think it would be seven, but

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01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I might be five. Okay, five would well have to explain.

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01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get into it. But you know

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01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the seventh sphere, which would be Venus where does have

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01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:18.199
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with the fifths.

1075
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Here in the tree?

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01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, sorry about that whole rant. We're trying to

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01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:26.079
<v Speaker 1>get some kind of point out of that.

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01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:27.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, you're good.

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01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 4>Well, well I think you were trying to put the

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01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:32.119
<v Speaker 4>sum in larities together.

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01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Like that. Yeah, it is kind of like that.

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01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 4>It is through it's throughout the North America and Europe.

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01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Basically we basically we share that history, and I think

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01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:47.239
<v Speaker 4>it's more surprising.

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01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, old old world. Mick Mac says, the star is

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01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the Mac hieroglyph for heaven.

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01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I think it has.

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01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Dome on top.

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01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Two.

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01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I think I have slides of this coming up too,

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01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 5>showing that the heaven. Yeah, the hieroglyphs. So next comes

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01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 5>secret society, the Grand Medicine Society called the madea Win

1094
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:20.600
<v Speaker 5>so the maday Win or an organization of traditional spiritualists

1095
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.760
<v Speaker 5>and healers, practitioners of magic, keepers of sacred knowledge. They

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01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 5>perform ceremonies in the lodges, they create their medicine bags,

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01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 5>They learn dances in the use of water drum. It's

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01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:41.399
<v Speaker 5>a structured society with learning including degrees and initiations. Initiates

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01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:44.640
<v Speaker 5>and pledges are guided by the Midday which are the leaders.

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01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:49.199
<v Speaker 5>And teachings are still kept on birth bark scrolls like

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01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 5>I said earlier, and also stones teaching stones.

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01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 6>The Meigas shell, which is that Cawie shell.

1103
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:03.039
<v Speaker 5>Is a sacred item used in initiationiations and ceremonies. And

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01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:08.319
<v Speaker 5>this is a shell that and initiate will be shot

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01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 5>with and it has to pierce the skin. It has

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01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:16.840
<v Speaker 5>to pierce the flesh to be yeah. So yeah, and

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01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:22.039
<v Speaker 5>then so they also participate in sweat launches and vision quests.

1108
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 5>It may include like fasting and seasonal ceremonies. Yeah, they're

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01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 5>still around for real.

1110
01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:33.880
<v Speaker 1>We can go.

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01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 5>We have mounds. We have a mount. So in New

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01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 5>Brunswick there's a discovery was made in the area known

1113
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:51.239
<v Speaker 5>as Metapanakia. Near the Oxbow bend of the Merrimachie River

1114
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.560
<v Speaker 5>is found what is known as the Augustine Mount discovered

1115
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:58.680
<v Speaker 5>in the late seventies by a local elder who was

1116
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.960
<v Speaker 5>reading an article in the National Geographic about an ancient

1117
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 5>burial mound in Arizona. When he remembered the local mount.

1118
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 5>He began to dig and immediately found artifacts like copper

1119
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 5>beads and arrowheads. He also discovered a settlement a village

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01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:17.319
<v Speaker 5>where the people had lived at the ox Boast site

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01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:21.960
<v Speaker 5>dated at twenty five hundred years old. It's described as

1122
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:26.720
<v Speaker 5>an a Dina style mound from the Ohio River Valley.

1123
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:31.800
<v Speaker 5>It was excavated in the eighties and items found include

1124
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:36.359
<v Speaker 5>many copper beads and scrolls said to be from Lake Superior,

1125
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:44.279
<v Speaker 5>Ohio fireclay pipes, distinctive Adena type stone tools. Also of

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01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 5>note in the mound were numerous flakes of quartz crystal

1127
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Michigan copper, which is called float copper, has a unique

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01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 5>composition and is easily identified. Michigan copper has been found

1129
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.600
<v Speaker 5>as far as Manoa and on Phoenician coins. The amount

1130
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 5>of ancient copper mind from the Great Lakes region is

1131
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:13.199
<v Speaker 5>still largely unaccounted for. It's designated a ceremonial burial mound

1132
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 5>with objects found buried in the fetal position or subject

1133
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:22.560
<v Speaker 5>excuse me, found buried in the fetal position facing east

1134
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:26.680
<v Speaker 5>and wrapped in birch bark. They were surrounded with items

1135
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:31.439
<v Speaker 5>of significance such as pipes, tools, feathers.

1136
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:32.159
<v Speaker 6>And pelts.

1137
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 5>And up to the nineties there used to be like

1138
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 5>a tourist center.

1139
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 6>Talking about the mound.

1140
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:47.399
<v Speaker 5>But I guess it's no longer no longer available, So yeah,

1141
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 5>I thought that was.

1142
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Pretty cool the close.

1143
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I think I think that's according to the website,

1144
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.359
<v Speaker 5>it's no longer in operation. I'm trying to see if

1145
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:01.119
<v Speaker 5>I can make a connection here or there to go

1146
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.079
<v Speaker 5>see it myself, because I've never been there, even though

1147
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 5>it's like practically in my own backyard.

1148
01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully someone will here see this and they're like, well,

1149
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:11.159
<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll send you an invite.

1150
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Come on, oder, Yeah, why not.

1151
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:19.159
<v Speaker 6>They can go to the next slide.

1152
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 5>Nick, if you want.

1153
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:21.920
<v Speaker 1>This is interesting.

1154
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:29.720
<v Speaker 5>So then we get to the Phoenician trail. So the

1155
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Phoenician link cannot be ignored here. It's widely speculated that

1156
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 5>the Phoenicians travel to North America in ancient times. They

1157
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:41.800
<v Speaker 5>were well known seafarers and navigators, and in particular to

1158
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.800
<v Speaker 5>the Great Lakes region to mine copper. Higher glyphs known

1159
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 5>as the Dighton Rock in Massachusetts of unknown origin have

1160
01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:54.359
<v Speaker 5>been said to possibly originate from the Phoenician or possibly Norse.

1161
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:59.920
<v Speaker 5>Modern DNA studies through genetic tracing in haplo groups contra,

1162
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.359
<v Speaker 5>you should claim that the Cherokee people are descendants of

1163
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:09.079
<v Speaker 5>the Phoenicians. Linguistic associations can also be made between the groups.

1164
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:14.840
<v Speaker 5>So those photographs, they're the one on the left is

1165
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:22.680
<v Speaker 5>called Hanukia Mound or a Menora mound in Ohio. So

1166
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.840
<v Speaker 5>this is looks like a menora or an oil lamp.

1167
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:30.319
<v Speaker 5>This no longer exists. This has been plowed over and

1168
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:39.359
<v Speaker 5>it's gone, but it's it's obviously Hebrew or Phoenician relic

1169
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:44.319
<v Speaker 5>or object. Then you get the bat Creek Stone, which

1170
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 5>is a tablet found in this in Tennessee in a

1171
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 5>Hopewell mound. At first thought to be Cherokee script, it

1172
01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 5>was later claimed to be Paleo Hebrew dismissed as a hoax,

1173
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:05.399
<v Speaker 5>but it's still held by the Smithsonian. And yeah, the

1174
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:11.640
<v Speaker 5>whole site is also now underwater. The one at the

1175
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:17.760
<v Speaker 5>top right is called the Diton Rock, so a glacial

1176
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 5>boulder found in Berkeley, Massachusetts. It's referenced in sixteen ninety

1177
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:31.399
<v Speaker 5>by Cauthern Cotton Mathers of the Salem Witch Trials. Uh

1178
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:37.239
<v Speaker 5>in seventeen No, it doesn't matter. So, yeah, this is

1179
01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:42.000
<v Speaker 5>another one of those Paleo Hebrew and Hebrew stones. At

1180
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:48.039
<v Speaker 5>the bottom is what's called the Cherokee syllabary, and it

1181
01:17:48.680 --> 01:18:00.119
<v Speaker 5>showcases similarities between Paleo Hebrew and this Cherokee. And then

1182
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 5>I showed a Phoenician boat because those are a lot

1183
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 5>like the Viking boats a little bit. H So, yeah,

1184
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.680
<v Speaker 5>I've got like notes on tons of stones. I'm just

1185
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:17.439
<v Speaker 5>gonna skip them.

1186
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:20.439
<v Speaker 6>But there's like literally like buckets.

1187
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:26.439
<v Speaker 5>There's the what are they called the Michigan relics. If

1188
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:28.199
<v Speaker 5>you guys want to look into that, check out the

1189
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:29.239
<v Speaker 5>Michigan Relics.

1190
01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:31.920
<v Speaker 6>There's about thirty thousand artifacts.

1191
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:36.680
<v Speaker 5>They depict biblical scenes.

1192
01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 6>Uh, they're tablets of.

1193
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:46.520
<v Speaker 5>Slate and copper, and they referenced Noah and King Sulomon

1194
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:49.760
<v Speaker 5>and stuff.

1195
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Do you know how far back the.

1196
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:58.399
<v Speaker 5>Dating? Yes, I think I think they said, I want

1197
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.119
<v Speaker 5>to say, three hundred eighty.

1198
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 3>What don't quote me? H, that's that's very significant.

1199
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:07.479
<v Speaker 5>You might you might want to fact check me on that,

1200
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:14.800
<v Speaker 5>but that's what I think I saw. Yeah, that one

1201
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:18.159
<v Speaker 5>is a really significant one. And there's there's like literally

1202
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.920
<v Speaker 5>like tons. I have four pages of notes on all

1203
01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 5>kinds of stones and stuff. But yeah, any questions, okay.

1204
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 5>So here it says, go to the jew of whom

1205
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:42.760
<v Speaker 5>the Lamanites or a remnant, that they may believe the

1206
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Gospel and look not for a messiah to come who

1207
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.800
<v Speaker 5>has already come. So this is from Book of Mormon.

1208
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna interrupt you and be like, don't the

1209
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Mormons believe in the Lamanites before I read the rest

1210
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:54.119
<v Speaker 2>of it.

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01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Now, I don't know any fight from a Lamanite, Like,

1212
01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:58.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1213
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I do each other.

1214
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I think I do know they believe that the ancient

1215
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.800
<v Speaker 5>or the native tribes or remnants of the tribes of Israel.

1216
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.760
<v Speaker 5>And it's funny because here in in uh, New Brunswick,

1217
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.439
<v Speaker 5>I have often heard it's kind of like a whisper

1218
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:22.439
<v Speaker 5>and a half joke, but they throw it out there.

1219
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:24.680
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like, you know, we're one of the

1220
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:27.239
<v Speaker 5>lost tribes or you know, you know they say we're

1221
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:29.880
<v Speaker 5>one of the lost tribes of Israel. So it's it's

1222
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.319
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily that they believe it. What it's there's an

1223
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:37.560
<v Speaker 5>awareness that in the collective somehow, if that makes sense.

1224
01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that is a I know, there's a lot

1225
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of weird stuff about the whole morning. Yeah, it's just

1226
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, even the whole thing with

1227
01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Joseph Smith being uh, which the church admits on YouTube.

1228
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>They even have like a three minute video that they

1229
01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>do admit he was a Freemason. You know.

1230
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I even had Cal Crusher on the show who got

1231
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:07.279
<v Speaker 2>married in in a you know, Mormon temple and he

1232
01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>saw the plane his day. Masonic symbolism as you start

1233
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.600
<v Speaker 2>getting father into the thing where you gotta start shaking

1234
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:20.960
<v Speaker 2>hands through fucking you know ship and he said literally yeahymbols, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1235
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>He says it's so wild. He says, if you didn't

1236
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>know anything about it, you wouldn't you know. But it's

1237
01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:28.079
<v Speaker 2>like right there in your face, that there's actually a

1238
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>legiti Masonic symbolism in your face during your wedding.

1239
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:35.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Well they say that Joseph Smith stole the Masonic

1240
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:39.199
<v Speaker 5>rituals and made the Mormon. I don't know, I'm not

1241
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:39.720
<v Speaker 5>a Mormon.

1242
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:40.319
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1243
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Then the thing is too, it's like what you showed earlier,

1244
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:44.720
<v Speaker 2>even when you were showing some of the stuff, there

1245
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:45.239
<v Speaker 2>was a g in.

1246
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Then like well, I mean fucking what.

1247
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:55.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know that to ask you about that picture? Yeah,

1248
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:56.800
<v Speaker 5>what does it mean? I don't know.

1249
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting, yeah, doc, you know, a lot of crossover

1250
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like all over the place.

1251
01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 5>Yes, but it's all late.

1252
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:08.079
<v Speaker 1>You see.

1253
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:12.880
<v Speaker 5>We have Mick Max and Norse and and Phoenicians and

1254
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:14.359
<v Speaker 5>they're they're not disconnected.

1255
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 6>And the French always the French, you know.

1256
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Even Crowley I think had high regards for Joseph Smith.

1257
01:22:22.840 --> 01:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And then there was a Lamanites and he did talking

1258
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:30.840
<v Speaker 2>lamb yeas a lot of weird share with that because

1259
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.640
<v Speaker 2>even uh, I think even the guy who scribed for

1260
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Joseph Smith was like Crowderm instead of Crowley.

1261
01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like like one two letters. Oh yeah, so weird. Yeah,

1262
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1263
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.199
<v Speaker 2>And then then even the Metal massacre, there was the

1264
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Mountain Metal Massacre that the Mormons and some Indian tribes

1265
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>had that that landed on between September ninth to the eleventh.

1266
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:57.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like so fucking weird something like these dates and stories,

1267
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Matts Math.

1268
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:01.239
<v Speaker 5>You know more about the dates since because it's.

1269
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:02.439
<v Speaker 1>So fucking weird.

1270
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:06.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it's all connected. That's what I think. I mean,

1271
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, nobody's got to believe what I believe. What

1272
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:12.920
<v Speaker 5>I believe, what I'm putting out here is connected. I

1273
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:16.520
<v Speaker 5>can't necessarily like show all the links, but I'm putting

1274
01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 5>the pieces together, and they all there's nodal points that

1275
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:23.720
<v Speaker 5>they all connect to m seven number seven. Again.

1276
01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, yeah, a good point.

1277
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:33.439
<v Speaker 5>All right. Here we go with the Mormons again, so

1278
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:34.880
<v Speaker 5>the white.

1279
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, when some Mormons do believe quatsa Cootal and

1280
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ are the same thing. Sorry to go off again,

1281
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:44.159
<v Speaker 2>but there was even a time when we were covering

1282
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.319
<v Speaker 2>somehow when we covered Skinwalker ranch. We all of a

1283
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:48.560
<v Speaker 2>sudden we realized this is a long time ago when

1284
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I was podcasting with Looks that there was just Mormons.

1285
01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>All over the scene here with this whole Skinwalker ranch thing.

1286
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>They really are you know when it comes to and ship,

1287
01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:59.319
<v Speaker 2>They're fucking all over that stuff.

1288
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very weird.

1289
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:01.520
<v Speaker 6>They pop up everywhere.

1290
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I was looking into it because all of

1291
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I was like, oh, what's how this is

1292
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the moment. So I really started looking into that shit,

1293
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and I even found it was like, you know how

1294
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:13.840
<v Speaker 2>like you call up like Liberty Travel to like you know,

1295
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>like set up a kind of like a vacation for you.

1296
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>There was like groups like that that were from Mormons

1297
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 2>to go to Quatzicota, Uh, to go walk that.

1298
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Pyramid in chits Andita. Yeah, there was Mormans that would

1299
01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>go to that pyramid and go there because of quats

1300
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Cola and Gesus connection.

1301
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 5>They're still linked to We'll take quite quattal today. I know,

1302
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:34.720
<v Speaker 5>it's wild.

1303
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really weird and connected and twisted and.

1304
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 6>The white gods all right.

1305
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:47.079
<v Speaker 5>So throughout all the Americas endured the claims that the

1306
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:53.079
<v Speaker 5>Native Americans were visited by white gods bearded, usually influencing

1307
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:57.600
<v Speaker 5>religions and culture. In the Emerald Tablets of Tho the Atlantean,

1308
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:02.399
<v Speaker 5>he described sending Atlanta and emissaries all over the world

1309
01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:08.560
<v Speaker 5>to teach humanity and rebuild civilization. So the Mormons have

1310
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:15.479
<v Speaker 5>a particular affinity for the Mexican serpent god Catsaquatdal who's uh. Actually,

1311
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:19.880
<v Speaker 5>when Cortes arrived, they thought him the reincarnation of cts

1312
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:24.720
<v Speaker 5>Aquattle too, because of his his whiteness and his beardness uh.

1313
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 5>And also glues Cap or Sinclair rather, which I'll talk

1314
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:31.479
<v Speaker 5>about in a bit, was also thought to be there

1315
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:36.600
<v Speaker 5>the return of the blues Cap. They're often bearded and

1316
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:43.920
<v Speaker 5>blue eyed tall men. There's Viracocha in the Incan tradition,

1317
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:47.640
<v Speaker 5>is called the Old Man of the Sky, the ancient One,

1318
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:49.359
<v Speaker 5>the bearded.

1319
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:50.479
<v Speaker 6>And white teacher of Creator.

1320
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:57.720
<v Speaker 5>So pretze Quatto is associated with Venus, the morning star, Lucifer,

1321
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 5>divine feminine uh on merchants and knowledge, and the sun.

1322
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:07.319
<v Speaker 5>So among the beliefs of the Mormon is that the

1323
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:11.399
<v Speaker 5>god cats a Quattle was Jesus, like Nick said, quote

1324
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.199
<v Speaker 5>the story of the life of the Mexican divinity Keats

1325
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:18.640
<v Speaker 5>a Quattle closely resembles that of the Savior, so closely indeed,

1326
01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:21.039
<v Speaker 5>that we can come to no other conclusion that the

1327
01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:24.800
<v Speaker 5>quetz Quattle and Christ are the same being. That's from

1328
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:26.960
<v Speaker 5>the Church of Latter day Saints Church President.

1329
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting connections and just.

1330
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.520
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it turns out maybe the Mormons have the

1331
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:45.800
<v Speaker 5>truest version of history in America's after all.

1332
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:47.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can go to the next life.

1333
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:53.640
<v Speaker 5>So here we're getting into the language. And so this

1334
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:58.279
<v Speaker 5>is what Joseph Smith is said to have used to

1335
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:02.840
<v Speaker 5>decipher the tablets or the plates. That yellow piece of

1336
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:07.000
<v Speaker 5>paper there on the top right is uh. It's called

1337
01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 5>uh uh Reformed Egyptian. And so if you look at

1338
01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:17.439
<v Speaker 5>the on the left, it shows a reformed Egyptian and

1339
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:22.159
<v Speaker 5>the mickmac and they're very very similar. There's a lot

1340
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:25.079
<v Speaker 5>of identical symbols. They call it knee fighte here, but

1341
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:32.920
<v Speaker 5>it's known as uh. Yeah. There it is so and

1342
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 5>the bottom picture is Joseph Smith scrying in his hat

1343
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:41.279
<v Speaker 5>with I guess that would be cow cowdry cowgary.

1344
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, it sounds so much like somebody else.

1345
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:54.399
<v Speaker 5>Well, I just thought it was really interesting that the

1346
01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:58.560
<v Speaker 5>same letters, it's the same yeah, similarities are.

1347
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You know where the.

1348
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Smith put a lien on the church for like Egyptian

1349
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>artifacts at one point too, he was so bigger than

1350
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 2>the artifacts, he put a lien on the own in

1351
01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>his own church.

1352
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.840
<v Speaker 5>You know what's wild was the mummies too, wasn't wasn't

1353
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:17.479
<v Speaker 5>he buying mummies and all these papyrus and all all

1354
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:19.239
<v Speaker 5>about the Egyptian stuff.

1355
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>And Oh, you know what's really interesting for people that

1356
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>might be hearing us, like talking about the moments like

1357
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:25.399
<v Speaker 2>the first time we didn't know that we've covered him

1358
01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>in the past. Something that's like really interesting. That just

1359
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>really confirms the whole craziness with all this shit going on.

1360
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>There was a guy we had on Justin I don't

1361
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>know if you ever saw it. It was a long

1362
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>time ago. It was me, Justin and and Lisa had

1363
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>We had him on he showed I mean it was.

1364
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Without it with the Rotary Club.

1365
01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how he connected them to the Mormons, Mormon Church

1366
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>throughout the Rotary Club.

1367
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1368
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.359
<v Speaker 2>The crazy thing, yeah, is that I had told him

1369
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, for some reason, there was something

1370
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>where I found like the Rotary Club was like kind

1371
01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>of shady with like my opinion, some of the Smiley Faith.

1372
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>He's killings in Austin and something to do with Gilgo.

1373
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:05.319
<v Speaker 2>It just seems like it's too convenient that they happen

1374
01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to pop up and they have boats, you know. So

1375
01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>somehow I something like with a Morning connection. I thought

1376
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:14.319
<v Speaker 2>there might have been, and I told him I was like, Yo,

1377
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:16.399
<v Speaker 2>look into the Rotary Club. I have a feeling there's

1378
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:19.119
<v Speaker 2>something weird that yo. And he was like, dude, what

1379
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the fuck? He was blown away. I guess I was.

1380
01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I was on something there, and he ended up coming

1381
01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>on the show showing how there's a total fucking CIA connection.

1382
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:29.439
<v Speaker 2>They pulled the church that I got a bankruptcy. Basically,

1383
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking insane. So I mean there's I mean, something's

1384
01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>already weird with them to begin with.

1385
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:49.479
<v Speaker 5>Now they're everywhere throughout history too. Though. The next line,

1386
01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:54.920
<v Speaker 5>all right, and this is on the left. Oh you

1387
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:58.560
<v Speaker 5>can't really see it. Uh Old World was talking about

1388
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:00.920
<v Speaker 5>the world the word for heaven, and it's on it

1389
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:02.399
<v Speaker 5>shows it on one of those.

1390
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Those boxes, but it's too small to see.

1391
01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:10.920
<v Speaker 5>So that's just another sheet from the Mormons showing the

1392
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.079
<v Speaker 5>papyri and the alphabet, and this tablet on the left

1393
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>is one of these Michigan stones, Michigan relics, and so

1394
01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:26.479
<v Speaker 5>it depicts. So you see at the top left there's

1395
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:32.159
<v Speaker 5>it looks like three letters. It's like a kune form.

1396
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:37.119
<v Speaker 5>It looks like I H and a wonky I. Above

1397
01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:41.640
<v Speaker 5>the actual symbol of the eye, there's three symbols called

1398
01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>the mystic symbol, and it's said to be a kune

1399
01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:53.319
<v Speaker 5>form version of yodey VAP. So yeah, and these all

1400
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:58.279
<v Speaker 5>the symbols are. They're a combination of Egyptian and Hebrew

1401
01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:06.960
<v Speaker 5>and Greek even and they have images of biblical scenes

1402
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 5>usually thirty thousand relics. So yeah, you can go to

1403
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 5>the next one. All right.

1404
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:23.520
<v Speaker 6>So the Micmac language is.

1405
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Illustrated by higher glyphs, petroglyphs, and mnemonic devices. So like

1406
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:30.840
<v Speaker 5>the turtle shell we talked about earlier, it would be

1407
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.199
<v Speaker 5>one of those. The wampom belts is another one. So

1408
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:37.800
<v Speaker 5>there's stories woven into the wampom so they when they

1409
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:40.680
<v Speaker 5>recount the stories or the legends, they use the object

1410
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:45.079
<v Speaker 5>to tell the story. There are striking similarities between the

1411
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Micmac language and what is known as Reformed Egyptian, which

1412
01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:51.520
<v Speaker 5>is also the language used by the founder of the

1413
01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.560
<v Speaker 5>Church of Jesus Christ and Latter day Saints while he

1414
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:57.600
<v Speaker 5>was translating the Golden Plates and was sent that the

1415
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:02.960
<v Speaker 5>language he used by the ancient inhabitants he called the Nephites.

1416
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:07.880
<v Speaker 5>Early settlers and explorers soon began to study and translate

1417
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:12.399
<v Speaker 5>the language. French, Jesuit missionaries and Catholic priests were interested

1418
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:19.760
<v Speaker 5>in recording and translating the language, especially prayers. They developed

1419
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.439
<v Speaker 5>a system of symbols to represent the Micmac language, allegedly

1420
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:28.439
<v Speaker 5>refining and adapting already existing hieroglyphs. The Jesuits wrote many

1421
01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:33.439
<v Speaker 5>journals and records chronicling daily life of Micmac and culture

1422
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 5>through the massive Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents collection, and

1423
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:47.000
<v Speaker 5>they're largely the source of early post contact. So oh

1424
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 5>there it is, okay. So the one on the left

1425
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:52.880
<v Speaker 5>is just random symbols. I don't have a translation for it,

1426
01:32:53.479 --> 01:32:59.439
<v Speaker 5>and they're the ancient Egyptian and Micmac simbol. There's the

1427
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:05.960
<v Speaker 5>for Heaven like Old World was saying. The next one

1428
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:12.439
<v Speaker 5>is the Loure's prayer in MCMC higher glyphs, and the

1429
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:15.319
<v Speaker 5>the last image is the cover of what's called the

1430
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:19.439
<v Speaker 5>Cowder Bible and it's all translated in mcmc higher glyphs.

1431
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That even has the upside down pentagram in there.

1432
01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:29.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, see the heaven for them, the ancient Egyptian has,

1433
01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:42.880
<v Speaker 5>like I don't know, a dome or something on top. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1434
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>So there's a.

1435
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Some we don't touch on that last one. I don't think.

1436
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:48.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Yeah, go ahead, you did.

1437
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of curious. Okay, I could get the noise crossover,

1438
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I can get the French crossover. How did they get

1439
01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:04.439
<v Speaker 4>the Egyptian crossover, because that's crossed over.

1440
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're here, well, you know, that could even go

1441
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>through the Freemason Yeah, because and then I would even

1442
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>probably attribute to the French because there was a lot

1443
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of them who came over that like that formed the

1444
01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Order of Cincinnatis in the United States. Yes, there was

1445
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun.

1446
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Yes, and that's that's associated to France.

1447
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Too, and there were free men, a lot of them

1448
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>are Freemasons, the French ending.

1449
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:39.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, huh, that does have a French chapter, if I'm right.

1450
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it does.

1451
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:45.039
<v Speaker 6>Napoleon Napoleon's General, I think.

1452
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing that I had thought about looking

1453
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.720
<v Speaker 1>into at one point. Because yeah, like we've covered it

1454
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show, I think a few times, but like

1455
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I had stuff one of the times to even go

1456
01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>into the French part, but I just know it did.

1457
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>But it is interesting how there's a just a French

1458
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>friendship part of it doesn't seem to really get talked

1459
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>about too much.

1460
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, don't forget too that if you believe in the

1461
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:14.359
<v Speaker 5>Holy Blood, Holy Grail lore that Jesus and Mary and

1462
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:19.359
<v Speaker 5>Mackalene were said to have gone where the south of France.

1463
01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:24.560
<v Speaker 5>So all of this this, for me, it's another link

1464
01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:30.800
<v Speaker 5>because you get all of this secrecy around around something

1465
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.399
<v Speaker 5>and it's it's very sort of divine, feminine.

1466
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:38.159
<v Speaker 6>We get all this mother symbology.

1467
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's curious, it's interesting.

1468
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:46.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to get into the templars next.

1469
01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Actually, all right, did you go on the next leg?

1470
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:50.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1471
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:53.000
<v Speaker 5>Actually, I have the wampum belts. I'll just show that

1472
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<v Speaker 5>one real quick, because I don't know if everybody knows

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01:35:54.880 --> 01:36:03.600
<v Speaker 5>what that is. So these are our ancient records. Original

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01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:08.319
<v Speaker 5>treaties were made on wampum belts too, And so if

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01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:10.359
<v Speaker 5>you see on the bottom there that shell, that's what

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01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:14.159
<v Speaker 5>they make. That the beads out of and there's a

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01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:17.760
<v Speaker 5>really intense purple color that comes from that shell, and

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01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:21.920
<v Speaker 5>it's a really hard shell. So there's stories told through these,

1479
01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:26.319
<v Speaker 5>there's genealogy, there's all kinds of information kept on these

1480
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:28.880
<v Speaker 5>wampum records. So I just thought it'd be fun to

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01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:30.399
<v Speaker 5>show examples of those.

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01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty cool. All right, here we go the templates.

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01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:42.119
<v Speaker 5>Uh, here we go, all right. Templar is abroad. So

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01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:47.840
<v Speaker 5>the original Order of the Knights Templar was formerly known

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01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:52.520
<v Speaker 5>as the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and the Temple

1486
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:57.520
<v Speaker 5>of Solomon, and was founded by Hudepoian, the first Grand Master,

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01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:02.119
<v Speaker 5>and nine other French knights. They perform major excavations in Jerusalem.

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01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:07.199
<v Speaker 5>They made a vow to promise chastity, obedience, and poverty,

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01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:11.479
<v Speaker 5>and were known to hold all property in common. Among

1490
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:15.279
<v Speaker 5>the men who marched into Jerusalem alongside you, Payan was

1491
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:21.560
<v Speaker 5>Ari Saint Clair, married Henry Saint Clair's niece and was

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01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:27.000
<v Speaker 5>given land in Scotland as a dowry. So there we

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01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:29.720
<v Speaker 5>see the symbol, of course of the Tamplars, which is

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01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:37.159
<v Speaker 5>that red cross. Yeah, so this gets into the Holy Blood,

1495
01:37:37.159 --> 01:37:42.960
<v Speaker 5>Holy Grail mythology, and I know, not everybody kind of

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01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.199
<v Speaker 5>follows that. But I started when I read, you know,

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01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:50.920
<v Speaker 5>obviously the the Dan Brown books, and then I got

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01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:55.039
<v Speaker 5>into all the other books, and I'm not it's not

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01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:57.720
<v Speaker 5>a no for me because there's a lot of a

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01:37:57.720 --> 01:37:59.880
<v Speaker 5>lot of evidence that supports that they have.

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01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:02.680
<v Speaker 6>They came here for something.

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01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's there was. I mean I think at this

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01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>point it might maybe it's not. I thought it was

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01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like kind of like taken as like historically true that

1505
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>there is a there's like buildings, the things that were

1506
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:20.159
<v Speaker 1>built here before Columbus that has their keystone and their

1507
01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking ship right on it, like well that snature, the

1508
01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.159
<v Speaker 1>signatures are on the stone.

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01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:29.000
<v Speaker 6>What is that tower the I have? I have a

1510
01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:29.960
<v Speaker 6>flight of it coming up.

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01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:36.479
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, but there's the tower we're talking about. Maybe

1512
01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:39.279
<v Speaker 5>not it's a building.

1513
01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh, it's a lighthouse, I think, didn't it is it

1514
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:45.640
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a lighthouse?

1515
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Of course, I'm not.

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01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:49.119
<v Speaker 5>Certain what what it was. I don't have a circular,

1517
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:54.279
<v Speaker 5>circular building and to build these circle churches, so yeah,

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01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:55.920
<v Speaker 5>I'll get into that. I have a slide for that

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01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:58.359
<v Speaker 5>coming up to. Yeah, you can go to the next slie.

1520
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 5>So of course this is associated with roseland Chapel, so

1521
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:10.079
<v Speaker 5>that was made famous by the books such as the

1522
01:39:10.119 --> 01:39:14.119
<v Speaker 5>Da Vinci Code and Holy Blood. Holy Grail. Near Edinburgh

1523
01:39:14.199 --> 01:39:17.600
<v Speaker 5>is the village of Rosslyn where we find Rosslyn Chapel,

1524
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:20.840
<v Speaker 5>built between fourteen forty.

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01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:24.880
<v Speaker 6>And fourteen ninety by William Sinclair. It's a structure rich

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01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:28.079
<v Speaker 6>in templar Masonic symbols.

1527
01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:31.920
<v Speaker 5>And said to be a copy of the Temple of Solomon.

1528
01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:36.640
<v Speaker 5>There appear carvings in stone depicting a Masonic initiation, as

1529
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:40.039
<v Speaker 5>well as the pillars of Boaz and Yaquin, as well

1530
01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:43.119
<v Speaker 5>as ears of Corn, thought to be unknown in Europe

1531
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:49.800
<v Speaker 5>at the time. The name Sinclair, Saint Clair, Santo Claro

1532
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:57.079
<v Speaker 5>or Sanctis Clarus means Holy Liked and originated in Normandy, France. Again.

1533
01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:02.960
<v Speaker 5>William Sinclair became the first Earl of Cathnics, Baron of

1534
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:11.640
<v Speaker 5>Rosslyn and Earl of Orkney. Henry Sinclair, a Scottish Norwegian nobleman,

1535
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:15.920
<v Speaker 5>was grandfather of William Sinclair and builder of Rosslyn Chapel.

1536
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:17.399
<v Speaker 6>William was the.

1537
01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Earl of Orkney, which is a title given under the

1538
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:23.479
<v Speaker 5>King of Norway Norse.

1539
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:26.600
<v Speaker 6>Through his first marriage to.

1540
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:32.319
<v Speaker 5>A great granddaughter of the King magnus of Sweden and Norway.

1541
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:34.359
<v Speaker 5>So these are just some of the symbols that are

1542
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:39.399
<v Speaker 5>found in Rosslyn. So the little sketching on the bottom

1543
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.079
<v Speaker 5>there that shows what is believed to be a Masonic

1544
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:46.319
<v Speaker 5>initiation with the little buddy there. He's got a blindfold

1545
01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:49.880
<v Speaker 5>on and he's got a rope around his neck and.

1546
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:53.159
<v Speaker 6>Whatever else is going on there.

1547
01:40:55.279 --> 01:41:03.039
<v Speaker 5>There's some depictions of some knights and yeah. Interesting, have

1548
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:06.960
<v Speaker 5>you guys ever been there anybody place?

1549
01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Just that one picture right there, that detail is like insane.

1550
01:41:12.159 --> 01:41:17.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's the symbols in that place. Well, you see

1551
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:22.960
<v Speaker 5>they have that green man too. There's common finding the columns. Yeah,

1552
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 5>and they found something in one of the columns too,

1553
01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:26.039
<v Speaker 5>I think.

1554
01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.680
<v Speaker 6>And there's the rose windows.

1555
01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just a lot of that ship.

1556
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I wonder like if it's to change the frequencies and shipping,

1557
01:41:39.079 --> 01:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>because I do cover that.

1558
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:41.880
<v Speaker 5>You just make a video about that?

1559
01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Well no, no, Well it's kind of like one of

1560
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the things I have coming up that I think next

1561
01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:51.399
<v Speaker 2>week that drops gets more into like the whole sound

1562
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:56.039
<v Speaker 2>reverberation and all this, you know, neuro architecture, it's considered

1563
01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>now it's actual science. How it affects like your neurosystem

1564
01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, I'm just I'm wondering about it, like

1565
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>this place just from the way it's built, which is

1566
01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:06.560
<v Speaker 2>very interesting.

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01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I think after what they I don't know, if you

1568
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:15.520
<v Speaker 4>heard about what they found out about Stonehenge, that that

1569
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 4>that the vibration there is meant to, for lack of

1570
01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:23.680
<v Speaker 4>a better word, make you somewhat anxious. That's what that's

1571
01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:26.319
<v Speaker 4>the latest reports. So I don't know if they're going

1572
01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:29.399
<v Speaker 4>to revisit these places to see if they are the same,

1573
01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:34.640
<v Speaker 4>if they have the same effects of people, because on people,

1574
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>because if you do recall for a good chunk outside

1575
01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:40.439
<v Speaker 4>of the hostility, for a good time there.

1576
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:42.560
<v Speaker 3>They weren't letting people near the pyramids either.

1577
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I know people that have gotten to pyramids

1578
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:50.920
<v Speaker 5>in different locations, not just the Egyptian ones, and had

1579
01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:53.439
<v Speaker 5>weird trippy experiences.

1580
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:59.359
<v Speaker 6>So the frequency is is different.

1581
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:01.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it fluctuates or if it's always

1582
01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.079
<v Speaker 5>the same or how it's affected, but there is a difference.

1583
01:43:07.319 --> 01:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

1584
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I do have a question for someone.

1585
01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:18.520
<v Speaker 9>Mentioned it in the in the chat about a tale,

1586
01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:23.039
<v Speaker 9>which where is it there goes the magic flight, the

1587
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:27.359
<v Speaker 9>Milwauk story of the Magic Flight they said it.

1588
01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:32.560
<v Speaker 4>It's from sub sub eliminated node. I'm sorry if i

1589
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:36.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm butchering your name. Uh, it's the Milwaukee story of

1590
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the Magic Flight. Uh, they says indigenous retelling of the

1591
01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Lake Flora and Flores myth and ties directly to the

1592
01:43:47.520 --> 01:43:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Grail myth, as told by Sherton de Troy's.

1593
01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1594
01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm not familiar with that, but I'm going to look

1595
01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:55.439
<v Speaker 5>into that.

1596
01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1597
01:43:56.760 --> 01:44:00.760
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't aware the other tribes had. Oh that's interesting.

1598
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:04.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm not I don't know anything about it, but I'm

1599
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:07.159
<v Speaker 5>happy to learn about it. I'm gonna check that out.

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01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:18.479
<v Speaker 1>M hm. The loon coming in? Ah, all right, next

1601
01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to you? Still got I'm just I'm I'm not sure

1602
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:23.199
<v Speaker 1>where we were.

1603
01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:25.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're almost there.

1604
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:32.479
<v Speaker 5>Home stretch. So the book The Knights Templar in the

1605
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:36.159
<v Speaker 5>New World by William E. Mann, who is a templar,

1606
01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:41.840
<v Speaker 5>traces the transatlantic voyage of Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia

1607
01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:45.880
<v Speaker 5>one hundred years before Columbus. He was in possession of

1608
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:50.199
<v Speaker 5>maps detailing the roots taken by the North Sailors, probably

1609
01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:54.760
<v Speaker 5>through his marriage, and became acquainted with the renowned sailors

1610
01:44:54.840 --> 01:45:00.119
<v Speaker 5>Niccolo and Antonio Zeno, who were Venetian noble nobility, he

1611
01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:05.439
<v Speaker 5>who accompanied him and his thirteen ships to the New World.

1612
01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.399
<v Speaker 5>The book Tracy's Connections to Oak Island fabled to hold

1613
01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:15.479
<v Speaker 5>the buried treasure New Ross Nova Scotia, which is named

1614
01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:21.680
<v Speaker 5>after Rossland in Scotland, and the micmac may have thought

1615
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:27.479
<v Speaker 5>Sinclair to be the return of blues cap Nova Scotia

1616
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:32.520
<v Speaker 5>means New Scotland. New Ross is located on major lay

1617
01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:36.920
<v Speaker 5>lines in Nova Scotia. And I thought a fun fact

1618
01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:41.880
<v Speaker 5>also was that Scotland was named after Princess Scota, the

1619
01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:46.439
<v Speaker 5>daughter of a pharaoh, Egyptian pharaoh who was reputed to

1620
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:50.880
<v Speaker 5>have red hair and could be the origins of red

1621
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:56.319
<v Speaker 5>hair gene in Scotland and Ireland, so Scota. Also there's

1622
01:45:56.399 --> 01:46:02.119
<v Speaker 5>the Pharaoh Islands in Scotland. There they're spelled f A

1623
01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:05.760
<v Speaker 5>R O E, but pronounced the same as the Egyptian pharaoh.

1624
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:09.920
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know if that means anything, but the

1625
01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:15.239
<v Speaker 5>fun fact. At the bottom there is the overtin stone.

1626
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:18.760
<v Speaker 5>This is found I think in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, and

1627
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:24.520
<v Speaker 5>it shows a templar cross and a crisscross feathers and

1628
01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:26.880
<v Speaker 5>a moon, a crescent moon. This is carved on a

1629
01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:30.800
<v Speaker 5>stone and it's thought to have is believed to be

1630
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:37.840
<v Speaker 5>a covenant perhaps between the Micmac and the Templars. So

1631
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:44.279
<v Speaker 5>is there a slide after this? Oh? Yeah, Oh so

1632
01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:47.479
<v Speaker 5>here's the more Templars. This is the Westford Night.

1633
01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think the thing that's new.

1634
01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:54.920
<v Speaker 5>That's a Newport tower. Is that the one you were

1635
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:55.560
<v Speaker 5>talking about?

1636
01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes, there's some solar.

1637
01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:00.800
<v Speaker 6>Alignment with that as well.

1638
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:03.239
<v Speaker 5>I think I don't know if it's the solstice or whatever,

1639
01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:08.960
<v Speaker 5>but there's some solar alignment and there's some interesting calculations

1640
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:12.520
<v Speaker 5>in the tower as well. So that's just a more

1641
01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:16.880
<v Speaker 5>evidence of the Templars in America. I just wanted to talk.

1642
01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.199
<v Speaker 6>About the Overtonstone a little bit.

1643
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:24.640
<v Speaker 5>More tales speak of a covenant or treaty between the

1644
01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:29.159
<v Speaker 5>Macmac and the Templars at this time. The story goes

1645
01:47:29.239 --> 01:47:31.840
<v Speaker 5>that the Templars were looking to hide the Holy Grail,

1646
01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:35.520
<v Speaker 5>the blood of Christ in the New World. The leaders

1647
01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:39.199
<v Speaker 5>in the Holy Blood Holy Grail lore maintain that the

1648
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:42.239
<v Speaker 5>Templars brought the bloodline of Jesus Christ to the New

1649
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:47.720
<v Speaker 5>World and married into some mcmac families, a secret oath perhaps,

1650
01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:53.800
<v Speaker 5>or perhaps that's the real hidden treasure they're talking about. Also,

1651
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:58.079
<v Speaker 5>it might explain why Joseph Smith was interested in the

1652
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:03.000
<v Speaker 5>micmac and the bloodline. Being a Mason might have given

1653
01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:06.359
<v Speaker 5>him a lead on where to find the blood. I

1654
01:48:06.359 --> 01:48:08.600
<v Speaker 5>don't know how it works, but he had he had

1655
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:12.199
<v Speaker 5>a direct interest in Micmacott.

1656
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:12.399
<v Speaker 3>See.

1657
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:19.239
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, And I wanted to say about my name.

1658
01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:24.520
<v Speaker 5>So my name is Santa Paz. Okay. Now, traditionally mickmc

1659
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.039
<v Speaker 5>names have we're given by Jesuits and priests. So you

1660
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:32.399
<v Speaker 5>have you have Peters and Paul and Simon and Augustine.

1661
01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.600
<v Speaker 5>But then you have a name like Santapaz, which is

1662
01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:44.880
<v Speaker 5>not uh generated from Christianity, and it's pronounced sunny bus zunnypus,

1663
01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.199
<v Speaker 5>So it's a B. It's a B sound, not a P.

1664
01:48:48.920 --> 01:48:52.239
<v Speaker 5>And it's only supposed to be having one S at

1665
01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:58.439
<v Speaker 5>the end, which means it has seven letters. And the

1666
01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:02.279
<v Speaker 5>the legend says that it's an anagram for the first

1667
01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:05.920
<v Speaker 5>letter of the last name of each family.

1668
01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:09.000
<v Speaker 6>That holds the blood of Pregsy. So I don't say

1669
01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:09.720
<v Speaker 6>I believe it or not.

1670
01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:16.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying that's one of the.

1671
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty gangster story for the last name that's

1672
01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:21.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool.

1673
01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:29.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I think is that the last one? Oh? Oh,

1674
01:49:29.119 --> 01:49:31.520
<v Speaker 5>the stars Okay, I just showed a bunch of different

1675
01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:36.720
<v Speaker 5>variations of the eight point at star here and the

1676
01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:39.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if everyone's familiar with the Satyr square

1677
01:49:40.279 --> 01:49:43.840
<v Speaker 5>or it's also called the Templar square, and that's if

1678
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:47.840
<v Speaker 5>if you find all the a's and o's and join

1679
01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:50.319
<v Speaker 5>at the center, you get the eight point at star.

1680
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Now the A and the O is also probably the

1681
01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:56.279
<v Speaker 5>alpha and the omega maybe, And if you look at

1682
01:49:56.359 --> 01:50:00.920
<v Speaker 5>the petroglyph eight point at star there at the bottom,

1683
01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:04.439
<v Speaker 5>it kind of reminds me of the Satyr square with

1684
01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:09.239
<v Speaker 5>because it keeps circling back to the center and it

1685
01:50:09.319 --> 01:50:15.680
<v Speaker 5>has seven or sorry eight xes on the outside and

1686
01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:18.760
<v Speaker 5>if you count the s's and t's on the outer box,

1687
01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:24.760
<v Speaker 5>there's also eight boxes. So I just thought there's more

1688
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:32.760
<v Speaker 5>connections to the Templar and the mcmac star. And also

1689
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:36.079
<v Speaker 5>the one with the skull is said to be the

1690
01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:38.720
<v Speaker 5>oath skull of the templar, so when you took your oath,

1691
01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:44.399
<v Speaker 5>you put your hand on that skull. And there's also

1692
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:48.039
<v Speaker 5>the star of each star, so there's there's again the

1693
01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:55.720
<v Speaker 5>eight pointed star is like a ubiquitous symbol across all history. Really,

1694
01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:59.600
<v Speaker 5>you see it across different variations and forms.

1695
01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:04.760
<v Speaker 2>The Sadus square has also been considered sometimes you know,

1696
01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>they could be uh doesn't mean this is true. Maybe

1697
01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:11.439
<v Speaker 2>it could be a specific type of Christian. But there

1698
01:51:11.560 --> 01:51:14.279
<v Speaker 2>was houses that supposedly were found that we kind of

1699
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:18.359
<v Speaker 2>have those like on on it somewhere, and they claimed

1700
01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that that was also a way of Christians letting other

1701
01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Christians know that, you know, I'm a Christian, but it

1702
01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:24.720
<v Speaker 2>was not safe.

1703
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, that was like.

1704
01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:31.239
<v Speaker 5>Definitely a Christian symbol around Christian symbology.

1705
01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:34.319
<v Speaker 2>The same time, that supposedly like if you met a

1706
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Christian in the street, I guess somewhere where, like and

1707
01:51:36.720 --> 01:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>if you had to stick on you you draw like

1708
01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>one slice one part of the fish and then they

1709
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:44.039
<v Speaker 2>would draw the other part on the ground to finish

1710
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:44.600
<v Speaker 2>it off, and.

1711
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>That would be a way of you both.

1712
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were Christians supposedly, so it was like around

1713
01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that time where they were supposedly doing things like that

1714
01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:54.039
<v Speaker 2>to let other people know what's up.

1715
01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how true that is.

1716
01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:59.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, the sad square, like if you really work

1717
01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:03.680
<v Speaker 5>with you can get to like magic squares like.

1718
01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:05.760
<v Speaker 6>The Myers square and Saturn square and stuff like that.

1719
01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:09.199
<v Speaker 5>So it's really like it's full of secrets really when

1720
01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:12.279
<v Speaker 5>you think about it. So I just thought it was

1721
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:17.520
<v Speaker 5>interesting to show it next to the it's it's a

1722
01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:22.560
<v Speaker 5>neighbor and micmac country there. So we can go to

1723
01:52:22.600 --> 01:52:27.600
<v Speaker 5>the next one and that shows more eight point stars

1724
01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:30.239
<v Speaker 5>and squares, but the top one I want to show

1725
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:36.399
<v Speaker 5>because the first image is a pyramid, and if you

1726
01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:39.680
<v Speaker 5>open the pyramid and flatten it, you get the eight

1727
01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:43.760
<v Speaker 5>pointed star, which is also the third image is a

1728
01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:48.760
<v Speaker 5>photo of a photon, so this is like a microscopic

1729
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:52.640
<v Speaker 5>image of a photon, which is the same image.

1730
01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:58.720
<v Speaker 6>So it feels like science is confirming.

1731
01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:04.479
<v Speaker 5>Or finding some in hidden in in the microscopic.

1732
01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:09.479
<v Speaker 2>When I was at a cosmic summit twenty twenty five,

1733
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it was it was whatever that's cosmic summit. There was

1734
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>a guy Bob green Fields something like that, Bob green something,

1735
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:22.439
<v Speaker 2>and he was he I don't know him himself, but

1736
01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:24.359
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about I know at one point he

1737
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:26.439
<v Speaker 2>was mentioned I think his father or his grandfather was

1738
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:28.479
<v Speaker 2>a mason and he had all these relics left over,

1739
01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, somehow this guy, I guess, got interested in

1740
01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:35.399
<v Speaker 2>it and started showing how like some of their symbolism.

1741
01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Literally it was like going back to like weird shit,

1742
01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like what you're showing here, I was like actually going

1743
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>back to like science, and I was like, what the fuck?

1744
01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:47.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, modern science is finding all these images in the

1745
01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:51.079
<v Speaker 5>microscopic that are like the Yin and yang symbol or

1746
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:59.520
<v Speaker 5>this this templar cross or like things that that I

1747
01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.960
<v Speaker 5>don't know, they find their way back somehow because it's

1748
01:54:02.119 --> 01:54:05.640
<v Speaker 5>that wasn't the origin. Obviously, they weren't looking at microscopes

1749
01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:08.119
<v Speaker 5>and seeing these images, and you.

1750
01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Know what the thing is there?

1751
01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:12.399
<v Speaker 2>If we I mean, because it's not a known like

1752
01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I think that possibly that the science

1753
01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that we have, Like we've gone through this multiple times,

1754
01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and if you take that as a possibility, all this

1755
01:54:24.239 --> 01:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>starts to make sense that it's actually just a culted

1756
01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>fucking science.

1757
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes.

1758
01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:37.840
<v Speaker 10>Yes, yeah, maybe they could go back to I don't

1759
01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.680
<v Speaker 10>want to do this, and I know so I know

1760
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:43.199
<v Speaker 10>one person who's gonna smile when I say this, But

1761
01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:48.359
<v Speaker 10>it could actually support the whole in a Knaki situation, too.

1762
01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:51.359
<v Speaker 3>Hidden in plain sight.

1763
01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they would explain a lot of things like

1764
01:54:55.079 --> 01:54:57.079
<v Speaker 2>how well this ship was built that we can't do now,

1765
01:54:57.399 --> 01:54:59.479
<v Speaker 2>it would make sense because they had just back then

1766
01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>they may a little bit more advanced than we are now.

1767
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah well yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know,

1768
01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:09.399
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, it's like, who knows how far advanced

1769
01:55:09.439 --> 01:55:10.560
<v Speaker 2>some people are.

1770
01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>We just don't know, you know what I'm saying.

1771
01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:16.640
<v Speaker 5>It's also like, if we think of North America as

1772
01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:19.319
<v Speaker 5>the New World, we think before Columbus arrived, this was

1773
01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:23.960
<v Speaker 5>nothing but like empty space. But there's obviously been civilization

1774
01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:28.840
<v Speaker 5>after civilization time, like since the beginning of time, So

1775
01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:30.960
<v Speaker 5>can we stop pretending that isn't there.

1776
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>There's even been a few of the things that I've

1777
01:55:32.920 --> 01:55:35.119
<v Speaker 2>covered on the show, for like their architecture, or if

1778
01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:38.319
<v Speaker 2>it was like some sort of solar or like lunar place.

1779
01:55:38.960 --> 01:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>There was a few of them where they the whatever

1780
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:44.840
<v Speaker 2>native tribes that were there that are even known to

1781
01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:46.680
<v Speaker 2>be the earliest ones associated with it.

1782
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>They even say it was here already.

1783
01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:52.640
<v Speaker 2>There's one's out there that they don't even say who

1784
01:55:52.680 --> 01:55:55.039
<v Speaker 2>they know who built it because there is no answer.

1785
01:55:55.119 --> 01:55:58.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, the hope, I think believe that they're in

1786
01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:02.680
<v Speaker 5>the fifth world right now. So every other worlds, including

1787
01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:06.840
<v Speaker 5>the sun associated with that world was destroyed and everything

1788
01:56:07.119 --> 01:56:11.119
<v Speaker 5>is reborn from It's kind of like Planet of the Apes.

1789
01:56:11.600 --> 01:56:18.000
<v Speaker 5>It's just an endless cycle of recycling and time doesn't

1790
01:56:18.039 --> 01:56:18.640
<v Speaker 5>really matter.

1791
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:21.800
<v Speaker 2>There's even been things that like that to start getting

1792
01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:23.079
<v Speaker 2>into like conspiracy world again.

1793
01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I guess we're already there with this stuff.

1794
01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:25.640
<v Speaker 11>Uh.

1795
01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:28.039
<v Speaker 2>There's even like certain things like with certain buildings, like

1796
01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>even the Empire State I think it was the Empire

1797
01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:34.319
<v Speaker 2>State building supposedly was constructed in two years. Long story short,

1798
01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:38.800
<v Speaker 2>there's certain things that you see that are supposedly were

1799
01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like not known, Like I guess, like all right, put

1800
01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.119
<v Speaker 2>it this way. It's like if if we didn't have

1801
01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the technology we have now where we know something exists

1802
01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:50.399
<v Speaker 2>somewhere that we haven't been too yet. You understand what

1803
01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting at, Like if I've like if you want

1804
01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:55.399
<v Speaker 2>to go back like one hundred and fifty years, you

1805
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:57.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the fuck anything looks like anyway because

1806
01:56:57.720 --> 01:56:59.439
<v Speaker 2>you don't have it. You know, have fucking TV of

1807
01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:00.720
<v Speaker 2>fucking internet.

1808
01:57:01.119 --> 01:57:03.119
<v Speaker 1>You don't got somebody send any videos of what they're

1809
01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>doing in Nigeria, you know what I'm saying, Like on Instagram.

1810
01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So like I do wonder if there was like certain times,

1811
01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:12.760
<v Speaker 2>there was things that might have pre existed. And once

1812
01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess society started getting like a little bit more

1813
01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:19.119
<v Speaker 2>like connected, you got to start coming up and saying, oh,

1814
01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:20.560
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, we just built this now.

1815
01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well yeah, I mean the whole like like as

1816
01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:29.039
<v Speaker 5>they call it, tartaria. But all of those buildings don't

1817
01:57:29.039 --> 01:57:31.479
<v Speaker 5>belong in this in this timeline.

1818
01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:33.119
<v Speaker 6>We can't make any of them.

1819
01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:36.199
<v Speaker 5>We don't remember building any of them. Where does this

1820
01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:38.319
<v Speaker 5>come from? So it's kind of like the Adena Mones

1821
01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:42.239
<v Speaker 5>are from another time. Those buildings are from another time.

1822
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:44.840
<v Speaker 5>Nothing makes sense in history. We got to figure this

1823
01:57:44.840 --> 01:57:45.760
<v Speaker 5>shit out on our own.

1824
01:57:45.800 --> 01:57:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yo, if.

1825
01:57:47.399 --> 01:57:49.560
<v Speaker 2>You already even look at someone like the old pictures

1826
01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:52.319
<v Speaker 2>from like New York, you're gonna see like a lot

1827
01:57:52.319 --> 01:57:56.159
<v Speaker 2>of black and Native American people and it's just like, yeah,

1828
01:57:56.199 --> 01:57:58.560
<v Speaker 2>who built those fucking Like if you still go back

1829
01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:00.720
<v Speaker 2>to that and look like you got dudes with like,

1830
01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, like little rifles. But like if you start

1831
01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>looking at some of the buildings in the architecture and

1832
01:58:05.079 --> 01:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>those pictures, you got to start wondering, like.

1833
01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.479
<v Speaker 1>They've built that. Yeah, it still doesn't make any sense.

1834
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some pictures of that online and I'm just like,

1835
01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:17.399
<v Speaker 2>that is a pretty fucking insane building that those Native Americans,

1836
01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:20.279
<v Speaker 2>supposedly in the New York area are standing against.

1837
01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:24.520
<v Speaker 5>Right now, I think we need to be asking more

1838
01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:27.479
<v Speaker 5>questions about everything, even if we don't get the answers.

1839
01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:30.319
<v Speaker 5>We just got to ask more questions because this ship

1840
01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:35.640
<v Speaker 5>don't make sense when I don't have answers. I just

1841
01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:37.279
<v Speaker 5>asked more questions.

1842
01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Off the topic.

1843
01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Those questions actually leads to more questions, but they also

1844
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:51.239
<v Speaker 4>connect a lot of dots exactly, and rounding it back

1845
01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:57.399
<v Speaker 4>up to the memo, is that.

1846
01:58:58.439 --> 01:59:04.239
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, yeah, I have a part of that. There's a

1847
01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:06.399
<v Speaker 5>million ways to pronounce it.

1848
01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:10.119
<v Speaker 4>If you look at their culture, the lineage, they have

1849
01:59:10.359 --> 01:59:15.199
<v Speaker 4>every aspect of culture throughout the entire world and that

1850
01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:19.199
<v Speaker 4>we are aware of right now. I was waiting for

1851
01:59:19.279 --> 01:59:22.560
<v Speaker 4>you to connect them to Australia, to the indigenous people

1852
01:59:22.560 --> 01:59:26.000
<v Speaker 4>in Australia and New Zealand, because.

1853
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:28.119
<v Speaker 5>I think everything's connected in ways that we just can't

1854
01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:32.720
<v Speaker 5>see it, Like everything seems so far apart through history,

1855
01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:37.319
<v Speaker 5>like so dispirit and distanced, but also we think, oh,

1856
01:59:37.399 --> 01:59:40.279
<v Speaker 5>Europe is so far away across the ocean. We could

1857
01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:42.920
<v Speaker 5>never get there. But really we got to start shrinking things,

1858
01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:45.359
<v Speaker 5>even the timeline. We got to look at it, and

1859
01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:48.279
<v Speaker 5>now we can see everything starts to fit, maybe because

1860
01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:51.920
<v Speaker 5>we're not thinking everything so far apart. So once you

1861
01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:55.800
<v Speaker 5>start shrinking it, you can start connecting the dots maybe

1862
01:59:55.840 --> 01:59:58.800
<v Speaker 5>a little more. That's how I feel about how I

1863
01:59:58.840 --> 01:59:59.520
<v Speaker 5>see the world.

1864
02:00:01.199 --> 02:00:05.359
<v Speaker 4>And if it wasn't for the ginger part of it,

1865
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:11.720
<v Speaker 4>I can't get over that. That's that's too much of

1866
02:00:11.720 --> 02:00:16.159
<v Speaker 4>a coincidence. No such thing, you ow. It's almost like

1867
02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:20.119
<v Speaker 4>a shared collective consciousness throughout the world at that time,

1868
02:00:20.399 --> 02:00:22.239
<v Speaker 4>which would be real easy if you think about it,

1869
02:00:22.239 --> 02:00:23.439
<v Speaker 4>because there's no interference.

1870
02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Like Nick said, the.

1871
02:00:25.840 --> 02:00:29.760
<v Speaker 5>World was less populated too, so the world was smaller,

1872
02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:33.840
<v Speaker 5>more like community more more you're actually talking to people,

1873
02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:39.960
<v Speaker 5>You're meeting people, you're telling stories, doom scrolling and watching tiktoks.

1874
02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:40.159
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1875
02:00:41.439 --> 02:00:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, actually with the internet is easier to have those conversations.

1876
02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:53.640
<v Speaker 3>But what we were believed to be uh the world

1877
02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:59.239
<v Speaker 3>that the Native Americans lived, we believed they lived, and

1878
02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:04.119
<v Speaker 3>for them to have so much the Egyptian part, that's

1879
02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:09.880
<v Speaker 3>what really has blown me away. Them knowing hieroglyphs, the

1880
02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:13.800
<v Speaker 3>connection with the Vikings, the connection with the French to Europeans, and.

1881
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Then you go down several miles later into Louisiana mm hm,

1882
02:01:20.039 --> 02:01:25.359
<v Speaker 4>which I think is a nice little interesting deep dive too,

1883
02:01:25.479 --> 02:01:28.680
<v Speaker 4>because I don't think that tribe was the only tribe

1884
02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:31.119
<v Speaker 4>that accumulated there either.

1885
02:01:32.880 --> 02:01:35.159
<v Speaker 5>That'd be fun to find out too.

1886
02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:37.319
<v Speaker 3>What what was that, Nick.

1887
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<v Speaker 1>Both French influenced there too, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think France has so much more influence over

1890
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<v Speaker 5>the entire history of the world than we give it

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<v Speaker 5>credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, yeah, I even think that was like even

1893
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<v Speaker 2>the part of the whole crap going on at the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do think that's why there was a

1895
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<v Speaker 2>big cerem real type thing going on, because I do

1896
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<v Speaker 2>think France one, yeah, yeah, I think that's why that

1897
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<v Speaker 2>was once, in my opinion, was very occult.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's because like, oh yeah, they're making us.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they have smurfs too, well, they have this guy.

1900
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<v Speaker 11>Like I didn't get that France.

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<v Speaker 6>And Smurfs, we tied it all in.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, Nick, if you want to hit the button, there's

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<v Speaker 5>one more slide. I think. All right, well, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>finish it up with this one. So this is the

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<v Speaker 5>side by side I was telling you about earlier with

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<v Speaker 5>the Templar and the Mickmac where they're just mirrored of

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<v Speaker 5>each other and just some examples of the Maltese flag

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<v Speaker 5>and all that stuff. So that is the end, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, that is the in for now. There's two to

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<v Speaker 3>look at into this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's been fun though. It's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>fun putting this together and researching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you Nick, no, thank you, no, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fucking awesome. I had a blessed definitely some

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<v Speaker 2>weird ship in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, well, you don't got to believe everything, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if it's fun, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the belief part is you were able to

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<v Speaker 4>connect the dots.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I see.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, for me, it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was saying at the beginning of in my

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that I do think, you know, cult orders or

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<v Speaker 2>cult minded people have swapped symbolism.

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<v Speaker 6>And the Macmac world was magicians. Also, it's a very

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<v Speaker 6>magical world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think like all those like the shaman and

1929
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<v Speaker 2>that those people that went underwent like all this stuff.

1930
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<v Speaker 2>I do think that was their own way of them

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<v Speaker 2>having their own magical experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's also I didn't tell you about it, but

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<v Speaker 5>there's ceremonies that that they're kind of like resurrection ceremonies

1935
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<v Speaker 5>I guess, so yeah, yeah makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean look at like, uh, how some orders will

1937
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<v Speaker 2>make it look like you're getting buried.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean skull and bones. You know, they always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think I'm not familiar with all Secret society. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think they all have some death and resurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you hear that a lot with like certain yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tribal initiations. Yeah, a lot of similarities I think for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. Don't lean again. That was I

1945
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<v Speaker 1>thought that was banging pleasure, right. That was fucking awesome.

1946
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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a good sight show in a long

1947
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<v Speaker 1>time like that. Yeah, you have a you ever get

1948
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<v Speaker 1>an itch to cover something else? Pa, just let me know.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely, I've been all right for a while. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 5>me because you never know.

1951
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, was there anything that you wanted to promote?

1952
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you don't really have anything right

1953
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<v Speaker 2>unless you want to be you know, I got nothing nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>She just put together future research paper though.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Actually, you know what I was thinking about doing

1956
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<v Speaker 5>this summer is going to see some of these places.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm right here, right, I'm in the Maritimes, So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>thinking about going to see and revisit some of these

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<v Speaker 5>places with new eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice person to actually go see the police.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the mound especially, I'd like to go see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it happen. All right, Judith, you want to let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know what's up with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, first, this was this was a blast. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't have enough rabbit holes to go down,

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<v Speaker 3>but thank you for giving me more. And uh for

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh you can find me at YouTube and on x

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<v Speaker 4>as alone, and you can find me on speaker for

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<v Speaker 4>my podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you again, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Judith. That was fun. I had a bless man.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, and again Dolane, thank you very much again,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. That was an amazing slide show.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot that that was really interesting. Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to like go back to this actually

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<v Speaker 1>and probably like take notes.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I was worried it might be too much

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<v Speaker 5>a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, that's a perfect show for that, so don't

1981
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<v Speaker 2>worry about it. But and thank you everybody in the

1982
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<v Speaker 2>chat too. Man great questions. If we missed any, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry there was. As you can say, there was a

1984
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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff going on. But uh yeah, Judith, thank

1985
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<v Speaker 2>you for helping me with the questions and everything. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah again people, if you ever got them,

1988
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<v Speaker 1>throw them up on this throw them up and we'll

1989
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<v Speaker 1>try to get to them. And uh that's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of another Rejects and until the next one, everybody be

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<v Speaker 1>well later
