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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the Epstein files. I thought we're getting the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>files today. Ryan, wasn't that your number one job today

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<v Speaker 1>to get the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I ken your job man doing it? Well, then where

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<v Speaker 1>are the files? Hey, this is not the try hard league,

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<v Speaker 1>is to do good league, But where are the files?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Pam Bondi, Alina Haba, they both said that they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be released. There's something about them wanting to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure the identities of the victims are protected, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of tiptoeing around that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only explanation I've been given.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, that would be totally legit, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because once those files are released, there's a danger that

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<v Speaker 1>any name that appears anywhere in the files, is all

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<v Speaker 1>of this going to be banished, you know, from civilized society,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter why they're in the files, And certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>victims need to be protected. So I get all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get all of that. It's just fascinating right

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<v Speaker 1>now because Pambondi had indicated yesterday there would be some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of release today and then did you see there

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<v Speaker 1>was something released, but apparently not something very significant. They

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<v Speaker 1>was given a bunch of influencers. Did you see that

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<v Speaker 1>whole scene?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I didn't care for that charade either.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did a bunch of ex influencers get the files

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<v Speaker 3>themselves rather than just distribute them to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand the hold up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and listen for those who haven't seen it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you will when you get home tonight, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>look all you drive. I know you already know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this administration, which has been so close to flawless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a human endeavor, right, It's never going to be perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be a lot better than almost

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<v Speaker 1>any other one. But they botched it today, right because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much pressure to get the Epstein files least

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<v Speaker 1>that what the White House apparently did today was have

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<v Speaker 1>some of these influencer types show up and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>them binders labeled Epstein materials. And it's not all of

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<v Speaker 1>them are the most important stuff. But then there was

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<v Speaker 1>this really unfortunate scene where they walked outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>West Wing and then they were all smiling and laughing

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<v Speaker 1>and holding up the binders clearly to show, look, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the binders. And it was just so inappropriate given

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying subject matter, right, which is child rape. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so the administration still in a plus administration,

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<v Speaker 1>but they botched this one today. But they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to get a grip on this Epstein file thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it's starting to cause a little tension between the

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<v Speaker 1>US Attorney's Office and the FBI right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think so.

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<v Speaker 3>And those were the two individuals who were mentioned by

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<v Speaker 3>Alina Habba, Cash Betel Pam Bondi, and she appeared earlier

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<v Speaker 3>with Pierce Morgan today, And i'll just play a portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the right here Dan this appearance on Pierce Morgan's

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<v Speaker 3>show in the UK.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Epstein files we're told are to be imminently unleashed,

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<v Speaker 4>and already we saw the Attorney General Pam Bondi say

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<v Speaker 4>that it's the scale of what happened is far worse

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<v Speaker 4>than anyone realized. Well over two hundred maybe two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty victims, and that we're going to get information

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<v Speaker 4>either later today or tomorrow from these files.

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<v Speaker 2>What can you tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it will be today. I was just with

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<v Speaker 5>I saw Pam and Cash in the White House just

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<v Speaker 5>before coming on your show, and I can tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that I haven't been privy to it yet, but I

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<v Speaker 5>know it is coming out. They will be taking portions

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<v Speaker 5>of it. We have to be patient. And I said

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<v Speaker 5>this last night at a dinner with some media, and

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<v Speaker 5>I said, I think America needs to remember one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We are going to be promises made, promises kept. But

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<v Speaker 5>when you're dealing with victims, And by the way, this

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<v Speaker 5>is a perfect example of a case that was at

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<v Speaker 5>that went through trial, that had testimony and was prosecuted

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<v Speaker 5>the right way. And I don't preemptively attack. That's just

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<v Speaker 5>not the way I operate. But in this case, in

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<v Speaker 5>Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs,

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<v Speaker 5>we have information names that will come out well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is so critical it come out, but it

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<v Speaker 1>has to come out the right way, right. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get right now is why the crazy concern

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<v Speaker 1>over whether it's today or next week. I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>concern about whether it comes out at all, but nobody

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<v Speaker 1>should doubt Trump on that. Trump Trump made the promise.

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<v Speaker 1>That promise is going to be kept. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it the right way, obviously in fairness to

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<v Speaker 1>the victims, but also in fairness to people who, in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm not sure I could explain exactly how, but

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<v Speaker 1>in theory might have their names in these files but

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<v Speaker 1>not have been guilty of any of the sordidness. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this all needs to be released, Ryan, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it goes to this big underlying issue as well, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one of the few things that could threaten

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<v Speaker 1>the stability of the nation when you have this two

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<v Speaker 1>tiered system of justice and you have some people who

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<v Speaker 1>are above the law because of their money, political connections

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<v Speaker 1>that are on the left, etc. We just can't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think most Americans are sitting there thinking this

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein thing is a classical, classic example of that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if they did that stuff, they'd be in jail for life.

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<v Speaker 1>But these rich and powerful people do it and they

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<v Speaker 1>get away with it. So yeah, that has to come out,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta do it right. So I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's tomorrow or a month from tomorrow, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it happens and it's done right and innocent people

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<v Speaker 1>don't get harmed in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just commenting on this myself, Dan, as

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who extensively covered the Larry Nasser scandal from day one,

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<v Speaker 3>in that I understand that you want to protect the

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<v Speaker 3>identities of the victims if possible, But there came a

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<v Speaker 3>point in time, a tipping point, I would say, in

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<v Speaker 3>the Larry Nasser case where prosecutions took place, that the

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<v Speaker 3>girls didn't care about their anonymity anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Come forward and go on the record. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>big step, It took bravery and courage, but they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to set an example for other little girls out there

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<v Speaker 3>so that it wouldn't happen again and it wouldn't happen

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<v Speaker 3>to somebody else, and they became heroes in that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm hoping that a similar tipping point might happen here.

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<v Speaker 3>I know these victims have been through a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>that should not preempt the release of these files entire

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<v Speaker 3>to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then the other point is that it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>not unanimous right. So, for understandable reasons, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a set of victims of a mass sex crime like

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<v Speaker 1>that and maybe ninety percent of them want to go public,

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<v Speaker 1>but you almost always have a few. I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>a civil case I did, which was absolutely horrific. Fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>the civil case went well, but you had loss of life,

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<v Speaker 1>you had sex assault, everything else, and at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, one of the central characters was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be executed. And then you know, there were some

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<v Speaker 1>victims who wanted the executions, some victims who didn't. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying you can have that split view among victims,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Bondi's right, the FBI's right to want

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful and clear it with each and

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<v Speaker 1>every victim. And I think the other thing, Ryan is

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess it's theoretically possible you could have some

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<v Speaker 1>people named in these Epstein papers who did not participate

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<v Speaker 1>in any of the debauchery, in any of the rape.

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<v Speaker 3>Well one of those names too, Dan, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>has later been clarified as Alan Dershowitz, and he has

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<v Speaker 3>been fighting, i think, on the legal front against such allegations,

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<v Speaker 3>aspersions and accusations against him. You know, he represented Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 3>Epstein at one time, he was his lawyer, so there

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<v Speaker 3>might be some confusion along those lines. And I certainly

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<v Speaker 3>hope that the professor was not involved in any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, you, Dan, come what may. No matter

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<v Speaker 3>who's on that list or if they're on our side

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<v Speaker 3>politically or not, don't care. Get them out there, make

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<v Speaker 3>it public. And you know you have to be specific.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right about you know, who was on these flights,

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<v Speaker 3>the Lalita Express, whatever Bill Clinton, Bill Gates.

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<v Speaker 2>Service are alleged to have been on there, and can make.

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<v Speaker 3>It clear who was participating in the debauchery, as you

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<v Speaker 3>put it, and those the individuals that were not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So that's got to come out. The Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>King files have to come out, the JFK files have

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<v Speaker 1>to come out, because we're at a point there's no

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<v Speaker 1>denying it right where most thinking people right now do

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<v Speaker 1>not trust government the way they used to, not even

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to it. And so at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>go back to my short lifetime, I go back to

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<v Speaker 1>of general trust of government have changed profoundly, and so

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<v Speaker 1>right now I think we the people, they work for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a right to see virtually everything, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about the few exceptions, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>that and then just figure out what we've been told

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<v Speaker 1>the truth on and what we've been lied to about

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<v Speaker 1>exactly eight five five for zero five eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>three nine. Hey, a lot of fun local stuff today,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason for that is the left runs Colorado right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the left is whack, and the left is doing

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<v Speaker 1>whack things all the time, and as their stuff makes

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado worse, they just sort of keep doing more and

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<v Speaker 1>more wacky stuff. So very sad in what it's doing

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<v Speaker 1>to the state, but it's great to see the left

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<v Speaker 1>exposed this way. So we'll have a few of those

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<v Speaker 1>stories today, but when we come back. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get your reaction to this one as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Strip club owners being sued for many, many millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. Who do you think should win this? You're

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think this is great. This is a huge

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<v Speaker 7>step towards transparency. Donald Trump said he was gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>transparent with the American people. Our House Oversight Committee created

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<v Speaker 7>a task force to try to get more of what

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<v Speaker 7>we call American secrets out in the public. The American

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<v Speaker 7>people deserve to know who was on that eptine list

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<v Speaker 7>and whether or not our government was spying on people

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<v Speaker 7>and allowing this to happen to get leverage. Were people

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<v Speaker 7>being blackmailed? This is a national security concern. So our

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<v Speaker 7>applaud Pam Bondi for releasing this later on today, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm lucky. I'm gonna learn a lot once those names

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<v Speaker 7>are made public.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Representative Comerce saying, hey, got to get it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>This headline on Fox. Pam Bondi sends letter to Cash

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<v Speaker 1>Patel accusing FBI of withholding documents. So yeah, yep, we

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<v Speaker 1>will see where this goes. I expect it will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>who are innocent, then you've got to be sensitive to

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<v Speaker 1>truth regarding everybody involved in any of this child rape. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>dance around it. This is Denver strip clubs cities going

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<v Speaker 8>An owner of some strip clubs in Denver suing to

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<v Speaker 8>Not because they don't have the cash on hand. Presumably

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<v Speaker 8>club owner RCI Holdings to turn over contracts, records another

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<v Speaker 8>info last month as part of this investigation. It's whether

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what the auditor says, and we'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>get Tim O'Brien on. Tim O'Brien says Diamond Cabaret and

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<v Speaker 1>Rix Cabaret violated nearly every applicable provision of Denver's minimum

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<v Speaker 1>failing to pay staff the city's minimum wage, and stealing

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<v Speaker 1>O'Brien said in a news release, How does that work, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>these minimum wage requirements, right, But it seems like what

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<v Speaker 1>know there are so many great folks who have done

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<v Speaker 1>this type of work at one point or another in

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<v Speaker 1>their career, or maybe doing it right now. We'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to get your take on all that. You can call

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Do you have any idea how that works?

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<v Speaker 1>Do women like pay to be able to work at

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing I could think of is that it

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<v Speaker 3>would function like a hair salon where a woman or

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<v Speaker 3>a man would rent out space for their own you know, share,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak. It's chair fee. I think it's how

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<v Speaker 3>they go about that, okay, and that there might be

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<v Speaker 3>space in the changing area that they rent out and

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<v Speaker 3>then they collect tips. I'm not sure exactly how all

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<v Speaker 3>the financials go with all of that, but it does

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<v Speaker 3>seem a little peculiar as to what's happening here with

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<v Speaker 3>these women that are perhaps being taken advantage of financially well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the story goes on to say it quotes the

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<v Speaker 1>clubs as saying Domic Cabaret and Rix Cabret have fully

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<v Speaker 1>of unchecked government overreach. Interesting term in that industry continues

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<v Speaker 1>to demand access to private business records beyond their legal authority,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the complete absence of any substantiated claims of wage theft.

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<v Speaker 1>These demands are not about justice, they are about control.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to be a suggestion I read into that that

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<v Speaker 1>Denver's exercising some kind of moral judgment here. The allegation

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<v Speaker 1>the strip strip clubs exercised a quotes significant amount of

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<v Speaker 1>control over entertainer's working conditions. It found the clubs required

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars per shift and an additional eight dollars promo

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<v Speaker 1>fee before working. Diamond Cabaret also imposes fines against entertainers

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<v Speaker 1>who violate certain rules. Managers, meanwhile, routinely take tips for

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<v Speaker 1>work performed by entertainers and tipped workers. The auditors determined, so, yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you have any idea how much women make? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're paying eighty five bucks per shift, and what's

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<v Speaker 1>a shift? Is a shift like one dance? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a set number of dances? But if they're paying eighty

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good, absolutely, and those that are more skilled in

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know, listen, obviously we don't have sub

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<v Speaker 1>poenut we don't know who's right or wrong here. I just,

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<v Speaker 1>that that vulnerable people, vulnerable people are protected. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of these clubs is somehow messed up or extremely

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable or anything else. To the contrary, I've known some

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<v Speaker 1>women who are incredibly impressive professionals with their lives totally together,

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<v Speaker 1>who were out there doing this kind of work because

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<v Speaker 1>like to dance, you know. But yeah, but I would imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know this to be true, I'd imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a danger in that industry that you can

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<v Speaker 1>run into some women who are in a very vulnerable situation.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about that, Dan, And yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's that the story is coming to light. But like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, you don't have subpoena power. There's only so

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<v Speaker 3>many things that we are pritvy to as far as

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<v Speaker 3>the facts and details of this, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>Kil Well, the one thing we do know is that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnston is just royally messing up Denver. But at

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<v Speaker 1>least the different ways he's doing it are kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So no matter where you are in the state or

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<v Speaker 1>really anywhere in the country, this next story we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to cover in this next segment is worth a listen

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<v Speaker 1>because it goes to the broader point right that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not personal. I mean this, The Left's approach doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't worked anywhere in human history. You may have

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work over time. So now you see Denver falling

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<v Speaker 1>apart in some really key ways. And not just people

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<v Speaker 1>like me, you know, registered Republicans saying it. You have

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<v Speaker 1>very prominent like Denver restaurant owners saying it and giving

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<v Speaker 1>very concrete examples, people who are putting their own money

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<v Speaker 1>into trying to make it work in Denver. And again

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<v Speaker 1>it's an example, it's a vivid example of how this

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<v Speaker 1>later things will crumble. So when we come back, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>dive into a couple of the most trees and Denver examples,

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<v Speaker 1>including okay, so what is the left solution now to

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<v Speaker 1>these restaurants that can't make it in Denver? So off

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist policies. Oh, charge more taxes on people going

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<v Speaker 1>at the restaurants. Yeah, that's going to get you more business.

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<v Speaker 1>Here on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyone must kisses his bot and strokes his his tiny

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<v Speaker 9>ego or big ego, whatever it is, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>guy who's not born in this country, who was born

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<v Speaker 9>under apartheid in South Africa, so has that mentality going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was pro apartheid.

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<v Speaker 9>Does I understand Italien?

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<v Speaker 10>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a natural now here the naturalized? Oh really, how

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he do that?

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<v Speaker 9>Did he come over the borders? Yeah, he allegedly overstate

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<v Speaker 9>that visubject. But I think this is just perfectly wonderful

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<v Speaker 9>for Trump. He's been take a nap and let this

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<v Speaker 9>foreigner foreign agent, you know, an enemy of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Do his job? Anybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to go with tards to necessarily call him

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<v Speaker 5>an enemy of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get a minute. Yeah. So, I just love

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<v Speaker 1>it when the left talks like that, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to help conservative candidates across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a bigger point I wanted to make with

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<v Speaker 1>that before we get back to the latest craziest craziness

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<v Speaker 1>from the left in Colorado, and that is Listen that

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<v Speaker 1>the real reason I believe that they're so out of

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<v Speaker 1>their minds over Eli, Musk and Doge and getting into

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean something very precise there, I mean electronically

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<v Speaker 1>stored evidence. Because with Mosk you have these team of people,

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<v Speaker 1>who know how to get in and and to look

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<v Speaker 1>then we're tracking down this digital evidence. So right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is going on is Elon Musk with

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<v Speaker 1>get in there and very quickly find patterns. They're able

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<v Speaker 1>Left and to their causes, etc. I'm not saying into

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<v Speaker 1>individuals pockets like thefts. But I think they are terrified

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely outraged when they get to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>These congressional committees don't have the staffing, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>And Comer did a great job, you know, hunting down

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<v Speaker 1>Biden trails, Biden family trails. But you put a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Musk who builds rockets and companies like Tesla, and

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<v Speaker 1>you put his team of cyber slews in there, they

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<v Speaker 1>can get to the bottom of stuff. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>freaking the left. So anyway, that's my big news of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hey, how about you the big news?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I got a couple of things that I sent

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<v Speaker 3>you there, Dan updates Galore. Liz Wheeler is one of

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<v Speaker 3>these online influencers who was given the binder of documents

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<v Speaker 3>pertaining to the Epstein files ahead of time, and she

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lays out a timeline what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 3>that there are missing pages that the FBI was told

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver that they failed to do. So the Pambondi

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<v Speaker 3>contacted Cash Ptel about it, and Patel, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>is committed to a rooting out whatever corruption there is

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI and unveiling whatever is trying to be concealed.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's that element and update to that story if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to get into that. And then also on

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<v Speaker 3>Denver Wright Mayor Mike Johnston in his typical fashion, like

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<v Speaker 3>with his ten men Square comments, he is backpedaling off

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<v Speaker 3>of the twenty percent citywide fie on restaurant bills. He

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<v Speaker 3>just says it was an idea and he wants the

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<v Speaker 3>restaurants to do it themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we'll get to that story, but first we

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<v Speaker 1>have to get to this megas story about this email

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<v Speaker 1>to the mayor by fourteen really prominent restaurant owners in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>So this isn't like, you know, young Republicans of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dankpla Show or something like that, you know, pointing out

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<v Speaker 1>more failings of Mike Johnston. These are big time restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>tours and I would bet the vast majority of them

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<v Speaker 1>are not Conservatives who are or are calling out Johnston

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<v Speaker 1>saying literally verbatim, it's completely falling apart. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>because this stuff on the left doesn't work. I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to Jack and Cheyenne and then some

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<v Speaker 1>of our textures. You're on the dan Kaplis Show. Welcome Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Jack, Hail Jack.

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<v Speaker 10>What do you think I am? Well, I mean I

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<v Speaker 10>can think about anything, you know that, And of course

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<v Speaker 10>my thinking's not all that great. In fact, I've been

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<v Speaker 10>talking to Craig lately. My big, my big thing.

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<v Speaker 11>That's stuck under my crawl is this January sixth insurrection nonsense.

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<v Speaker 11>Now it's been proven that Trump offered National Guard to

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<v Speaker 11>and the number of two thousand. They were turned down

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<v Speaker 11>by the Democrat mayor of d C, turned down by Pelosi,

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<v Speaker 11>and it was turned down for one reason, and one

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<v Speaker 11>reason only. They knew there would be some opposition to

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<v Speaker 11>what pens did by certifying an election that was obviously

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<v Speaker 11>shouldn't have been certified. And and and they're going to

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<v Speaker 11>take whoever protested about that and call them insurrectionists. And

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<v Speaker 11>they're going to say that they were working at the direction.

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<v Speaker 10>Of Donald Trump. This whole insurrection thing has been proven

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<v Speaker 10>to be false. And if the Democrats were afraid of insurrection,

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<v Speaker 10>why didn't they accept the two thousand National Guard guards.

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<v Speaker 10>If they thought there was going to be a problem,

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<v Speaker 10>they didn't do it. They didn't do it so they

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<v Speaker 10>could play this.

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<v Speaker 11>This scenario of insurrectionists against against Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 10>It's it's dolly, It's so transparent. A blurving idiot can

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<v Speaker 10>see it. And I've been talking to Craig a lot lately,

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<v Speaker 10>by the way, and he's basically he's basically told me

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<v Speaker 10>he doesn't want to talk to me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I do have to ask. I'm sure everybody's curious,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you end up talking to him? Then? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you like following him around?

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<v Speaker 10>Or well, I wouldn't say that. It's only been in

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<v Speaker 10>the last couple of days apparently I'm calling him, and

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<v Speaker 10>he's mad because apparently he's not in Denver anymore. He's

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<v Speaker 10>moved west. He's in an earlier time zone. He says,

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<v Speaker 10>I wake him up. But you gotta stop calling on anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop calling.

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<v Speaker 12>I will.

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<v Speaker 10>But the thing is, he slammed the door on me,

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<v Speaker 10>and he's locked up on this insurrection nonsense, and is

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<v Speaker 10>way way way too smart to find into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, Don't let it aggravate you. Look at it. We

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<v Speaker 1>had so many great years together on this show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just remember all those good times and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else and differences on other stuff. Just let it go.

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<v Speaker 10>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel compelled because you got this one

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<v Speaker 1>guy who disagrees with you? Why do you compel feel

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<v Speaker 1>compelled to keep calling him?

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<v Speaker 10>No, I don't keep calling him. It's only been in

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<v Speaker 10>the last day or so, and he has to call

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<v Speaker 10>me back. But he's sung on this insurrection still. And

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<v Speaker 10>what I'm saying is he's too smart to believe that.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, the evidence is square that they've set it

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<v Speaker 10>up so they can have that argument. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 10>it's gonna set up by the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack. I think the American people have rendered their verdict

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<v Speaker 1>right on J six, and I think any thinking person

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<v Speaker 1>would have to see it the same way, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you had some people on J six who they were

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<v Speaker 1>not directed or incited by Donald Trump, it is their

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<v Speaker 1>fault they did it. You had some people on J

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<v Speaker 1>six commit serious crimes for which they should be seriously punished.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean they should be punished beyond what somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on the left would be punished, but they should be punished.

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<v Speaker 1>You had other people who got swept up in it

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<v Speaker 1>and then were way overcharged. You had a whole mix

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<v Speaker 1>of things going on there. And then you had the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially they had twin pillars in the campaign, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>helps explain why they got spanked so bad. And their

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<v Speaker 1>twin pillars were abortioned to the moment the babies behind

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<v Speaker 1>us slapped and J six those were the twin pillars

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<v Speaker 1>of their election campaign. And how did that work out?

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<v Speaker 1>From Jack? Always great to talk to. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>hit this heartbreak now, my friend. Hey, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about some more examples of craziness out of

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<v Speaker 1>Denver again. But it just makes the bigger point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on the left doesn't work. But then the question

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<v Speaker 1>for you is can Republicans take advantage of that? Can

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<v Speaker 1>they win statewide in Colorado? When you have things so

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<v Speaker 1>bad under the left, why aren't Republicans breaking through more?

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dankapla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 13>Authorities in New Mexico are investigating for legendary actor Gene Hackman,

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<v Speaker 13>His wife, and their dog were all found dead inside

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<v Speaker 13>of their home.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 13>According to a search warrant, investigators found no signs of

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<v Speaker 13>carbon monoxide and no signs of forced entry. The front

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<v Speaker 13>door was open when the couple was found. An investigator

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<v Speaker 13>say they found an open bottle of prescription pills near

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<v Speaker 13>Hackman's wife. Police assured the community there is no danger

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<v Speaker 13>to public.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think happened?

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to figure this one out, Dan. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you have Gene Hackman, who apparently suffered a fall. He's

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<v Speaker 3>ninety five years old, that could very well kill a

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<v Speaker 3>man of that age. But then his wife was dead

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<v Speaker 3>inside in a bathroom. Is she had pills strewn about

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<v Speaker 3>on the countertop of that bathroom, and then separately from.

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<v Speaker 6>That, one of their dogs had died.

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<v Speaker 3>So all of this had happened, you would think concurrently,

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<v Speaker 3>but the why behind this is a lot harder to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think most people suspect the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would that be him?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I'm not saying that's what happened there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But don't you think everybody listening this story suspects that

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<v Speaker 1>at least one person in there took their own life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that. I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably the public suspicion, my suspicion. While I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on that, did you realize that Colorado is a program

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<v Speaker 1>now where and I mean like an active assisted suicide

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<v Speaker 1>program where you have people just like getting medical help

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<v Speaker 1>to kill themselves like Canada. Yeah, there's one going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado right now that you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I did not know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. I mean, there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>craziness on the left or trying to keep up with.

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<v Speaker 3>But this happened in Santa Fe, New Mexico, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of the compound that Gene Hackman and his

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<v Speaker 3>younger wife lived on.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sixty three, he was ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>The dog dying, I mean, the only thing that explains

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<v Speaker 3>it and ties it all together. Was his daughter's initial

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<v Speaker 3>thought was carbon monoxide poisoning, but the fire department came

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<v Speaker 3>and said there wasn't a leak.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of mystery to this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>By the way, Dan, just to kind of add to that.

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<v Speaker 14>On Martina today, we took a call about a gentleman

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<v Speaker 14>who has just been diagnosed with stage four cancer and

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to take his own life. And I wasn't under

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<v Speaker 14>the impression that Colorado had a program like that, but

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<v Speaker 14>apparently there is something like that. But Mark and Suzanne

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<v Speaker 14>and pretty much the whole Martino people talked him out

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<v Speaker 14>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good, good, and yeah. And I was unaware Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>had that program until I was talking to a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who was talking about a friend of theirs who had

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<v Speaker 1>just done it, and I was like, oh, omge, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the phone lines. Because I that Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Heckman's story. I wanted to go off on a tangent

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<v Speaker 1>to how many years of difference is too many, like

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, Amy and I are nine years apart,

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<v Speaker 1>and that seems to have worked out very well at

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<v Speaker 1>least for me. Dean and Arvada, you're on the Dan Kaplis,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll welcome.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, Dan, good evening. The reason I was Colin, You know,

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<v Speaker 12>Elon Musk is getting hammered by liberal media outlets like

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<v Speaker 12>The View, et cetera. I would think that if he

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<v Speaker 12>goes after any of these places with a libel lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 12>he's going to destroy him. They can't. They can't fight

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<v Speaker 12>a guy with that much money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. That's a great point, Deing, And I

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<v Speaker 1>bet that day is coming soon, and that will be

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<v Speaker 1>a great day, assuming he's truly libeled, because it's great

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<v Speaker 1>now when we see Trump and others step up and say,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second. The standard's high under New York Times v. Sullivan,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's still a standard, and because the left have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to the point where it just flat lies about

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<v Speaker 1>people and then just assumes they won't sue him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you're right about that. Yeah, I bet you're right.

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<v Speaker 12>I have one question, Yeah, I have one question. Can

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<v Speaker 12>he actually go after what was that lady's name you

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<v Speaker 12>just said on the air from the view person instead

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<v Speaker 12>of going after the view Oh you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but listen, I'd have to replay her comments to

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's anything defamatory in there.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, well he said a part time member and all whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 12>She was, oh, yeah, yeah about that. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 12>curious if they say it personally, even on the air them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you can do both, Yeah, you can do both. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you man. I appreciate the call. Appreciate the call

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<v Speaker 1>from Dean. And if we have time right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe i'll do it later in the show, i'd play

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<v Speaker 1>those comments back and we'd use him as an example

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<v Speaker 1>of what's defamation against a public figure and what isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And then starting point right is whether it's a public

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<v Speaker 1>figure or a private person, it's got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>statement of fact. It cannot be opinion. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember to you Ryan, if joy Behard made a statement

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, yes, that Musk had supported a part.

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<v Speaker 3>Time Yeah, that he was pro apartheid. Absolutely. I have

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<v Speaker 3>the clip right here. We might as well just revisit

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<v Speaker 3>her right now. We have time and just listen, really

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<v Speaker 3>click carefully.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyone Musk kisses his butt and strokes his his tiny

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<v Speaker 9>ego or a big ego, whatever it is, and he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't get to do he can take a nap while

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<v Speaker 9>the guy was not born in this country, who was

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<v Speaker 9>born under apartheid in South Africa, so has that mentality

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<v Speaker 9>going on. He was pro apartheid, as I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the part that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So if it's a statement of fact and it's

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<v Speaker 1>an untrue statement of fact, now here's where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>tough with the public figure, right, you'd have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to prove that she knew it was false or

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<v Speaker 1>had a reckless disregard for whether it was true. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about a private person, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a much lower standard. So thank you for playing that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good example. Let's go to Ryan in Roxborough.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan CAPLI show. Welcome Ryan.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, how you doing, Dan good Man?

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<v Speaker 15>I just wanted to say that I agree with your

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<v Speaker 15>assessant of Elon munk Can. I honestly support everything that

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<v Speaker 15>he does. But I have a real concern a blowback

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<v Speaker 15>here with the DOGE and the hiring of all these

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<v Speaker 15>very low level employees, which again I'm not against, but

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<v Speaker 15>if they don't start like bringing heads to the table,

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<v Speaker 15>hire ups who are responsible for actually the misuse spending

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<v Speaker 15>of a lot of this money by.

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<v Speaker 12>The billions, and they only fire low level people.

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<v Speaker 10>I just feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're great, thought right. Thank you for that. We're about

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<v Speaker 1>to get a hard newsbreak. Let me continue that on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, and why Musk is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so successful
