WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:04.360 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:06.040 Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.560 Thanks so much. Oh my name is Dan Ray and 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:11.919 the host of Side Rob Brooks. He's back in the 5 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.640 control room. You're taking all your phone calls beginning White 6 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.359 Apple out of Talk News. But you can sit back relaxed. 7 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.160 You have four really interesting topics here. We're going to 8 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:23.920 talk about Boston's best according to the Boston Globes magazine. 9 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.440 We're going to talk about older adults missing doctors appointments, 10 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.399 maybe because of weather. Then we're going to talk about 11 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:32.640 the Olympics a little bit. If you haven't gotten enough 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:34.520 of the Olympics so far, we'll give you a little 13 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.719 bit more. And also going to talk about the Massachusetts 14 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.640 Museum of Contemporary Art, which has been around now for 15 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.840 about twenty five years and big piece in the Boston Globe. 16 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.920 We'll talk to the Boston Globes Art one of the 17 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.399 Boston Globes arts writer arts writer Malcolm Gay. But first 18 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.479 we're going to talk to an editor at the Boston Globe, 19 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.280 Francis Stores. Francis, welcome to Nightside. How are you think? 20 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:01.880 Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 21 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:05.120 So this was in last week. Was it in last 22 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.280 week's Boston magazine? 23 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:09.120 And I saw this too, so two weeks ago in 24 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.040 the in the Globe magazine inside of the Boston Globe. 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.840 It's still very current today. Let me tell you, people 26 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:16.000 are still checking this out. 27 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:19.959 Okay, So let let's talk about the procedure here, how 28 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.000 the best were decided. Then we talk about what what 29 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.599 are the best of the best? You you basically used 30 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:31.560 some of the Globe folks who who who were your experts? 31 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.959 It's a good absolutely absolutely right. That's why we figured 32 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.319 this is such a great city at Greater Boston's an 33 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.799 amazing place. There's so much to choose from, great food, 34 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.280 great things to do. And we thought, if we have 35 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.159 trouble finding the best places, what our readers must have 36 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.680 a challenge too. Can we help them? Can we find 37 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.560 tap our arts critics, our dining critics, our food writers, 38 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:58.640 are you know, our trusted correspondent, business writers, just all 39 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.480 these people whose job it is to know the best 40 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:04.000 of the best, the newest of the new, amazing thing, 41 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.760 so that we can offer readers great recommendations. 42 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:11.680 So we have you have sixteen categories correct even more? 43 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.240 Can you believe it? In twenty one we ended up 44 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.800 with twenty one categories split down the middle. 45 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.840 Some of the categories here wait yeah, yeah, so split 46 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.879 between things to do and and places to eat, so a. 47 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.159 Little bit something for everybody. 48 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.400 Okay, all right, so let's let's start it off here. 49 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:33.400 Oh you said, you know what, I maybe I missed this, Okay, so, uh, 50 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:35.759 maybe this is twenty one I'm looking at I did 51 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.759 the multiplications are wrong? Here you got you've got four 52 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.319 columns of five. It is twenty one. No, so okay. 53 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:47.000 Lobster rolls, breweries and tap rooms, things to do, coffee shops, burgers, 54 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.080 rooftop bars, ice cream, pizza, things to do with kids, 55 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:55.080 geap eats, seafood, breakfast, bookstores, music clubs, italian restaurants and nightlife, 56 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.319 movie theaters, sushi, bowllying, games, boutique hotels, comedy clubs. 57 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.879 Right, yeah, two hundred, two hundred winners. Each of those 58 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:08.199 lists has five to twenty winners. That's how much we 59 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.280 have here. That's so much great stuff to offer in 60 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:15.080 our local businesses. And so more than two hundred winners 61 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.840 in this list, which is which is incredible. 62 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.599 Okay, So let's do pizza. I'm sure that there's a 63 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:23.680 lot of pizza places in Boston. Who are the top 64 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.159 ones as far as your experts? 65 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:31.919 Yeah? Absolutely, I love pizza too, and so let me see. 66 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.439 So we have some I think people might guess, and 67 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:40.840 then some surprises along the way to so certainly Regina's, 68 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:45.000 Certainly it's in Tarpio's and East Boston, Regina's in the 69 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.800 North End. Those make that list. They've been doing it 70 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:50.840 perfectly for more than one hundred years. In some cases, 71 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.319 I'll say one of my favorite places is Galeria m 72 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:56.280 Berto in the North End as well. Have you ever 73 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:56.879 been there? 74 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.759 Not that I recall, but it looks you got a 75 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.560 great picture there of a big old pizza. 76 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.479 Isn't it wild? So that place is amazing. If the 77 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.000 cash only you go in. They make a certain number 78 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:13.000 of pizzas on trays every day and they wait in line, 79 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.400 and they when they sell out, they close. That's it, 80 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.199 you know, So you gotta you gotta plan ahead a 81 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.439 little bit. But it is so worth it, so worth 82 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.720 the weight, so worth the the trip is just absolutely amazing. 83 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.759 And then you have you have Obviously we kind of 84 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.040 hit all twenty one here as much as I would 85 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:36.000 love to, but let's hit seafood because when I seafood, 86 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:37.079 I eat food. 87 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.000 I heard you're a big Burger fan too. 88 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.879 I heard I have a big burger. I have no 89 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:44.600 idea where that's inside information. I don't know how you 90 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.759 got that, for instance, but I have a big Burger fan. 91 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.399 Your reputation perceived you about your love of burger. So yeah, seafood, absolutely, 92 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.639 we have so nine we have nine winners in the 93 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.959 seafood category all across the city. That's one of the 94 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.800 things that we feel is special about this, which is 95 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.040 all of these places earned this title, and we spent 96 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.600 time there, We studied that we you know, we talked 97 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.519 to people, we did our reporting, you know, so you 98 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.600 can trust it. But sometimes the face you know you're 99 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.920 you're the best place is the place that's like near 100 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:11.759 where you are that night, right, So we wanted to 101 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.600 give people a wide range. So also the daily catch 102 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.120 is extraordinary. If you've ever been a little tiny plates, 103 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:23.519 they have bigger locations elsewhere. All these local businesses Legal 104 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.759 stood Foods. Of course, even though it's been sold to 105 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.720 a local company from the from the founders, continues to 106 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:35.480 be incredible consistent. Bring family there, bring friends there, out 107 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.839 of town guests there, you have to. You know, sometimes 108 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.720 we take for granted some of the things I think 109 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.360 that are that we always know. 110 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.399 Let me go to burgers. Since you nailed me with 111 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:51.120 burgers here, okay, the best burger that I ever consistently had, well, 112 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.319 of course, mister Bartley's Burger over in Harvard Square, Yes, 113 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.959 is clearly, clearly that's on the top shelf. But do 114 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.519 you remember the shame fud Rockers. I loved Burgers. 115 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:05.319 I do too, I do too. 116 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.920 I know, I have no idea how they went out 117 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.600 of business. They had great fries, great salad, help your 118 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.399 own self to condiments. It just went the wrong way. Now. 119 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.639 The one area that I have to agree with you 120 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.680 one when you talk about best of the best bookstores. 121 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:25.800 We all love bookstores, and Brado Bookshopping is still number one. 122 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.399 I noticed that one right away. 123 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.040 Isn't that plays incredible? I mean, it's just it's just 124 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.680 a treasure trove in there, the Bridle Bookshop and then 125 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:34.879 of course the booksmith. I mean, we're just we're a 126 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:37.360 smart city, right and we are just people love books 127 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.240 and we are so lucky here Porter Square Books over 128 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:41.079 in Cambridge. 129 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.639 It's just well, Ken Gloss before him, his dad George Gloss. 130 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.279 But Ken Gloss does such a great job with the 131 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.120 Bridle Bookshop. And I love the story about Paul Giamatti 132 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:54.680 the article. Yeah, I had not heard that one. I 133 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.639 knew that Brad always had a cameo in the film 134 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.360 to Holdovers, but I didn't realize that Giamatti went back 135 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.199 there and did some po. 136 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:06.959 After the cameras are off. He loved it so much 137 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:08.560 he came back and did some shopping on his own. 138 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.160 That tells you that the good that the good place, 139 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:11.480 you know. 140 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.399 And he's not the only Hollywood star who has been 141 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.079 in there. According to my friend Ken Gloss, he says, 142 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:22.800 amazing the people athletes and and actors in musicians who 143 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:26.560 come by. I enjoyed this conversation. Francis, And I know 144 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.120 that the Globe's book list was It was in you know, 145 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.040 written form. The Globe's Best List was in written form 146 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.399 a couple of Sundays ago. How can people get to 147 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.079 the list. There must be a way that people can 148 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.480 get to the list without having to go back to 149 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:42.920 the paperboy and ask for. 150 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:45.399 That's absolutely right. 151 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.480 You have Sunday's Globe from two weeks ago. 152 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:48.959 That's right. 153 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.279 They should get in touch with me, but no they should. 154 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:53.120 It's really easy get to you go to Globe dot 155 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:57.199 com slash that, glow dot com slash best and that 156 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:59.360 all our lists are there. If you're not a subscriber, 157 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.120 I think we have a d a dollar for six 158 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.680 months so you can see this list and you can 159 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.360 see all the amazing things that the Globe. That the 160 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.399 Globe does, but help people check it out. If I'm 161 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.040 looking for something to do themselves or revisit an old 162 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:12.639 favorite or find something new. 163 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.000 Globe subscribe. But because I'm very happy that Boston is 164 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.399 a two newspaper town and we have to keep that 165 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:23.480 we are compet the Globe doesn't hurt little say hi 166 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:26.000 to all my friends, both of them at the Boston Globe. 167 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:29.279 Okay, thank you, I will do they say hi as well. 168 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.759 All right, thanks Francis. Love to have you back. You 169 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.720 got you've got a great way about you. Thank you 170 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:34.159 so much. 171 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:36.200 Oh, I appreciate it. Thanks for the thanks for this 172 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:37.360 about more. 173 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.840 Than welcome you welcome. That was fun. I like that. Okay, 174 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.960 We're going to get maybe a little bit more serious 175 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.960 when we when we get back, and we're going to 176 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.679 talk about older adults missing doctor's appointments. If you're an 177 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.559 older adult or if your parent is an old adult, 178 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.600 you want to listen to this. We will talk about 179 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:57.120 this on the night side. My name is Dan Ray. 180 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:59.679 We are coming right back after this break on Boston's 181 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:03.240 news radio. We're here at ten thirty in your AM dial. 182 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.679 I'm here Monday through Friday nights most weeks. Most weeks 183 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.480 eight to midnight. That's the show. We will entertain and 184 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:14.879 inform you all the way to midnight tonight as always. 185 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.679 Now back to Dan ray line from the Window World 186 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.960 Night Night Studios on WBZ News Radio. 187 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:27.240 Well, this is interesting. Older adults are missing to their 188 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:31.080 doctor's appointments in some cases due to high temperatures. With us, 189 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:36.879 as doctor Lakeland Eichenberger, she's a PhD. She's a gerontologist 190 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:42.159 and caregiving advocate at home instead. This was a study 191 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:45.879 that went on for a number of years with the 192 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:52.120 American Journal of Preventative Preventive Medicine. This study went from 193 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.519 what twenty ten to twenty twenty one or some I mean, 194 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.440 it was like a decade long study. Give us just 195 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:01.440 a sense this, doctor Eigenburger. 196 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:05.559 Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Dan, this while 197 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.600 I wasn't part of this research study. It really is 198 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.000 intriguing to me as a gerontologist because what they found 199 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.440 was over ninety degree heat, for every degree increase in temperature, 200 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.399 there was an increase in the odds that an older 201 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.679 adult might miss a doctor's appointment, a primary care appointment. 202 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.039 And then they looked also at cold weather. I know 203 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:27.879 we're in the heat of summer and probably don't want 204 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.240 to talk about cold weather, but they found a similar 205 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:35.320 effect every degree below thirty nine degrees fahrenheit, So anything 206 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.919 above ninety degrees or anything below thirty nine degrees, those 207 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:41.759 temperatures were going to impact whether or not an older 208 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.960 adult was going to get out for that primary care appointment. 209 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.639 And we just know how vital and important primary care 210 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.399 appointments are for older adults, just to help kind of 211 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.080 stay on top of all the healthcare and health conditions 212 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:56.399 that they're managing. 213 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.360 With you, with you on all of this. And when 214 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.480 I read this, which I did today, it was it 215 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:08.759 was basically there were over one million appointments studied, over 216 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:14.320 ninety thousand patients age eighteen and over in this and 217 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.159 it was in Philadelphia, I guess, at outpatient clinics in 218 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.639 Philadelphia from two thousand and nine to twenty and nineteen. 219 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.159 That was off by the years a little bit. I 220 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.039 got to be honest with you, it doesn't surprise me 221 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:31.519 that colder temperatures or hotter temperatures would have a greater 222 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.519 impact on older people and they might miss and reschedule 223 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.120 an appointment. Did they really have to do a study 224 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.120 to find this out? I guess is what I'm asking, 225 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:44.840 And I don't want to be cynical, but sometimes I am. 226 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.799 Well, and you're right. It didn't surprise me either, because 227 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.039 you know, as you get older, you are managing more 228 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.159 chronic conditions, and it can be harder to get out 229 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.919 and about two appointments, you know, especially if you have 230 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.679 mobility issues, if you have complex medical needs, or if 231 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.120 you experiencing any sort of cognitive impairment. It just sometimes 232 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.440 takes extra efforts. So when it's really really warm out 233 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:10.480 or really cold, it's no surprise that older adults aren't 234 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:13.159 getting out and about like they would in more of 235 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.480 those mild temperatures. But I think it's really important if 236 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.679 you're caring for someone, or if you yourself have an 237 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:23.080 underlying health condition, or if you're taking certain medications that 238 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:28.440 really impact your body's ability to regulate temperature. Then it 239 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.519 is important to think of ways that you can make yourself, 240 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.320 you know, safe when you go out into those extreme 241 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:40.480 weather conditions. Perhaps it's scheduling your appointment, you know, earlier 242 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.000 in the morning, before the heat of the day, or 243 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.240 if it's in the winter, you know, in the afternoon, 244 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.360 so that you don't slip and fall on the early 245 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.679 morning I see sidewalks. So just putting a little more 246 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.480 thought maybe into when you're scheduling the appointment, making sure 247 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.360 that you're dressed appropriately, and maybe even having some extra support. 248 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.799 Maybe it's a family member that comes over to help 249 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.360 you get ready and you know, cool down the car 250 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.320 or heat up the car depending on the season, and 251 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.840 make sure that you get there safe and that way 252 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:12.919 you still get to that appointment and not miss out 253 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.960 on the critical care, but you do so in a 254 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:17.080 way that is safe. 255 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:19.559 Did they do any sort of a follow up on 256 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:24.759 that in terms of what percentage of the missed appointments 257 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:29.120 were made up within a certain period. 258 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.679 Of time, You know, I didn't see that that was 259 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.039 mentioned in the study, But I think what is interesting 260 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.519 if you think about if you miss a primary care 261 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.879 appointment and you have some sort of underlying medical condition 262 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:46.000 that might trigger a little bit down the road the 263 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.639 need to go to an emergency room or to an 264 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:51.720 urgent care to get treatment. And so again those are 265 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.919 things that we really want to avoid because those can 266 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.600 be very costly events. And so that's why I think 267 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:59.919 that they did this study is really to show the 268 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:04.559 importance of making being conscious about those medical appointments and 269 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:07.440 making sure that you get there and keep on top 270 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.960 of any of the health conditions that you're managing as 271 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:10.840 you as you age. 272 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.639 The other thought that I haven't and again I'm not 273 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.240 being cynically, I'm just being I'm trying to be conscientious 274 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:22.879 and thorough. I'm wondering if as people do get older 275 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.320 that one advantage they have is wisdom, they pick up 276 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.879 some wisdom along the way, and certainly difent times, you know, 277 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.399 they might say, hey, you know, with with temperature extremes 278 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:39.600 come oftentimes you know, bad weather, and particularly in the wintertime, 279 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.799 and I'm just wondering. I guess they didn't factor that 280 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.679 in from what I could read in the in this analysis, 281 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:48.759 but it would just seem to me that there would 282 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.080 be you know, some people who might say, Hey, you know, 283 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.799 it's going to snow later, it's going to sleep later today, 284 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.879 And I just I'm surprised that, frankly, that older patients 285 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:05.200 made as many appointments as they did on time. To 286 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.120 be honestly, and I'm again I'm not being I'm not 287 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:12.639 being overly cynical here. You know you you were, you 288 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:18.200 were in an amazing field gerontology, because obviously, as all 289 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:23.039 of us age, our problems do not diminish. They by 290 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:29.039 necessity multiply and sometimes some feed upon, you know, some 291 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:35.720 feed upon others. Do you feel that the fact that 292 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:41.279 that the American public is aging more now I don't 293 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:43.399 get a chance to talk to someone in your area. 294 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:49.480 Do you think that the fact that people are living longer, 295 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:57.840 that that this is also impacting what what you're concerned about, 296 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:02.360 and that is, you know, getting people to doctor's appointments 297 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:07.080 one time, which is very important. Is just our increase 298 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.080 in age of a factor here? 299 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.559 Well, I think you know you're right, we are living longer, 300 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.559 and as we age, we do have more medical needs. Actually, 301 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:20.639 the highest healthcare spending happens in the later part of 302 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:24.039 our lives, and so we are seeing more use of 303 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:26.360 our medical system. And I was actually reading an interesting 304 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:32.000 article today about this shortage of geriatric doctors, of medical 305 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.279 professionals with geriatric training and background. You know, in medical 306 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.240 school you have to do around in pediatrics and even 307 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.360 in labor and delivery, but the time spent studying the 308 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.720 older population is actually in a lot of medical schools, 309 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:47.559 you know. In my opinion, and again I'm a little 310 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.320 biased as a gerontologist, but it's really not sufficient to 311 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.759 meet this growing need. But I do think that as 312 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.000 a healthcare system, we are seeing some innovation happening things telemedicine, 313 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.399 and especially during the pandemic, we saw that there is 314 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.960 benefits to using that type of technology to make sure 315 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.319 that you know, even if they can't get to the doctor, 316 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.519 you know, telemedicine could be the next best option. And 317 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:19.000 for some medical treatment or diagnosis or appointments, telemedicine can 318 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:21.279 work great. And then there's some of course that you 319 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.079 do need to be in person for. So I think 320 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:28.119 that we definitely need more people working in this field. 321 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.319 And there's the number of older adults is growing and 322 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.599 and so yes, in my industry, it's very interesting. I 323 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:39.319 love what I get to do, and uh, in my organization. 324 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:41.799 We provide home care and we help people, you know, 325 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.039 stay at home as long as possible, and we also 326 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.599 can take them to the use doctor's appointments and make 327 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:48.160 sure that they're getting their medical care. 328 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:50.720 You know, when you talk about telemedicine, that's something that 329 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:55.039 a lot of older people are less comfortable with, ironically 330 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.480 than younger people. I mean, the fact of the matter 331 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.279 is that I would assume be of a person over 332 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.400 the age of eighty is going to benefit much more 333 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.680 from telemedicine than someone under the age of thirty, ironically, 334 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:12.200 because they're just not familiar with with how to work 335 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.079 the computer. Let's see if someone there has helped her 336 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.759 or if they're the exception to the rule. The other 337 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:19.640 thing too, which I think is very important, least here 338 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:21.680 in the Boston area. Many of my friends who are, 339 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.680 as I say, on the wrong side of fifty complain 340 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.559 to me that when the doctor retires, how difficult it 341 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.680 is to find a primary physician in the city of Boston. 342 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:35.359 And if you have in trouble finding PCPs in the 343 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.119 city of Boston, what do you think it's like in Butte, 344 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:43.960 Montana or Biloxi, Mississippi. Mean, yeah, so yes, yeah, yeah, 345 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.160 you and I could do an hour on this maybe. Well, okay, 346 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:50.839 tell me again. How can folks get in touch with 347 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:56.160 your company if they're looking for some caregiving assistance? 348 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.000 Absolutely, you can visit our website home instead dot com 349 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.079 and you can do a zip code search for wherever 350 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.519 care is needed and we'll get you connected to the 351 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:05.240 local office. 352 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.680 All right, great, thank you very much. I really enjoyed 353 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.880 the conversation, doctor Eichenberger. I don't know how many your 354 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.000 talk show hosts who you might talk to, actually try 355 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:15.799 to read these reports and figure out what the hell 356 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:17.759 they're all about ahead of time. But I'm a little 357 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:19.359 quirky that way. Sorry. 358 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.920 Oh, thanks for having me. It's been a pleasure. 359 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.680 D write back at you. Thanks so much. When we 360 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:26.640 come back right after the news at the bottom of 361 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.240 the are we're going to talk about the Olympic Games. 362 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.599 I'm sure you're aware of them. They're going on at 363 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.160 one of the major capitals in Europe. I think it's Paris, 364 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.799 if I'm not mistaken. But we're going to talk to 365 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.640 someone about some of the fun facts and what people 366 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.680 are looking for on Google and elsewhere. We'll be back 367 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:46.079 on Nightside right after this. 368 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.519 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's 369 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:53.160 news radio. 370 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:55.759 Now, some of you who don't listen to Nightside every 371 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.559 night of the week for four or full hours might 372 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.839 not be aware, might be aware of the Olympics that 373 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:05.720 are going on. So we're going to talk with Mollie mcute. 374 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.440 She's a Google trend expert. Mollie, how do you become 375 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.440 a Google trend expert? Do you have to go to 376 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:13.039 school for that? 377 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:13.519 Or no? 378 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:14.359 How are you tonight? 379 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.160 Oh my gosh, I'm good. How are you? 380 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:20.440 You didn't expect that question first out of the box. 381 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.880 Go ahead, I'm only having fun with you. Go ahead. 382 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.880 I guess you just spend enough time at Google looking 383 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.119 over these trends in search and they promote you up 384 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.880 to expert. But no, I do a lot of writing 385 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.440 with the trends team, and so I'm looking at all 386 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:38.799 these different staffs all day and it's really fun. There's 387 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.160 a lot of interesting things that come in. And yeah, 388 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.599 right now we have been focusing on the Olympics. 389 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.920 So when I have trouble with my Google account, I'm 390 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:47.359 going to be able to call you. Because by the 391 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.759 end of this this segment, I hope we're going to 392 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.680 be you know, b BFFs. Okay, Oh we kidding, of course, Oh, kitty, 393 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.839 tell me what are you learning? Not what you are learning, 394 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:03.039 but what we are learning about our country's appetite for 395 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:12.039 information trivia or statistics about all of these summer Olympic sports. 396 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.680 Yeah, there's been some really interesting data that's coming in. 397 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.759 And some of the stuff that I thought was kind 398 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:22.279 of fun was just sort of related to like the 399 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.559 sand fare around the beginning of the Olympics. People were 400 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:30.559 super interested in the opening performances, so lean beyond Olympic 401 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:35.319