Speaker 1: All right, welcome to six to g Agenda.
Speaker 2: I'm your host Andrew here again to talk about what
they won't And today we got a special guest, Matt Ritt.
Speaker 1: He's back to talk with us about.
Speaker 2: The Theosophical Technocracy a little bit more on the Essallent Institute.
Last time we kind of edged around the es good
amount as we talked about our traditionalist movement episode information,
all that stuff that he brought. It was super packed
and maybe we can unpack some more today.
Speaker 1: And welcome back Matt.
Speaker 3: How you doing today, Andrew, I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this awesome me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So last time, you know, we talked a lot
about big Sir Esslin X men being kind of connected
to that. I thought that was really interesting, And since then,
I've kind of been noticing and researching more into like
Esslin and the modern kind of influencer tech bro scene
and kind of the connections with that, and I've noticed
the Theosophical technocracy kind of agenda that seems to be
going on, and I wanted to kind of delve into
more of the escellent stuff. You seem to be the
guy with a lot of good information on that, so
I'm excited to talk to you about it.
Speaker 4: Oh well, thanks man. I mean, my wife has also
helped me a lot in piecing together a lot of
the story, and we wrote a book together actually called
The Revenge of the Mystery Cults, and the first volume
of it, it's a trilogy, and the first volume of it,
it's called The Mystery Babylon and the Age of Aquarius.
And I've got a copy of that actually here, just
so your followers can see the cover. It's got this
fun black sun dripping lava bus onto a bunch of
flipped out baby boomers tripping out at Woodstock and people
are at first, we're a little bit confused when you
go through it. I mean, I think we make the
connection pretty clearly. As far as the uber mentioned it
chain trans like the the uber mentioned concept as it
was rooted in both the schools of Nietzsche and Wagner
of the overmentioned will to Power crowd that was emerging
out of the.
Speaker 2: The the pagan folk scene of Europe, especially Germany, but
also of England. And the uber mention is the superman
race that really goes back to the root race concept
that is rooted in theosophy, right.
Speaker 4: Well, that yeah, that those who are going to be
qualified to set the seed the stage for the new
root race. So that are those aryan teutonic brood who
have attained the maximum stage of evolution possible within the
current fourth race cycle, out of which you know you
have sort of seven subdivisions. As Blebotski created this very
strange pseudo Darwinian cosmology that explains our evolution. But so
she'd her theosophical network provided this solution to the.
Speaker 1: So let's do it this way.
Speaker 4: Let's actually take the time to quickly just paid a
picture of the overmentioned idea that's at the heart of transhumanism.
That that is all over Essalyn later on. So this concept,
if you look at the way the stage was set
in the early nineteenth century, you had them on one hand,
radical Darwinism that was proposed by the City of London,
by the leading fake science. I'll call them fake science
because I don't think they were real scientists. The handlers
of Charles Darwin, like Thomas Huxley, the grandfather of Aldus
Huxley and Julian Huckley. He was the Darwin's bulldog and
he was the creator of what's known as the X Club.
The X Club was a sort of think tank that
consolidated that had the mandate to try to co opt
all known science that had progressed and perfected itself by
means of a type of creative thinking that is not
supposed to be permitted for humanity. If we're going to
be controlled monkeys in a zoo, we can't have access
to this part of ourselves that allows us to make
Eureka like discoveries into the invisible laws of creation and
transpose those back into new technologies that allow us to
break free of the limits, change the rules of the game,
and then overcome limits to growth that is not supposed
that We're supposed to be adaptive to, limits that are
created in control, rolled by a high oligarchical master class
that is supposed to be our destiny, not doing real science.
So what this group coming out of the British Royal Society,
which is itself a Rosicrucian creation. The Royal Society was
known from its start as the Invisible College. That is
what Thomas Huxley was brought into. He was assigned to
create this EX Club idea that brought together leading imperial
scientists from chemistry and physics and even anthropology. Matthew Arnold
was a literature a literary figure from the science of
mind who was brought into this thing. So is Herbert Spencer,
the founder of social Darwinism. So is Francis golf and
the founder of eugenics. They're all members of this thing.
And the idea was to force this, this Darwinian idea
of gradualism onto every branch of science, so that the
idea of the discontinuous quantum like leak, that leap that
is required for a discovery to happen in any field,
or even evidence of those discontinuous changes that are not
chaotic but they are also not gradual, that you find
in the evidence of the growth of fossil records, where
there's no gradual variation, there's only discontinuous changing systems. The
further back you go in the fossil records, you have
whole systems that change, but they changed in an organized way.
So we have lower states of order becoming through the
new system of a higher ordering appearance. That implies something
about the organization of God, of the universe, of purpose,
purposefulness that might even exist outside of the human subjective experience.
Which changes the whole idea of what the subjective objective
divide even means. So all of this stuff was supposed
to be scrub like, scrubbed completely, and so Darwin was
the big thing.
Speaker 1: And so Darwin's the guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so just to pause on this, Darwin's the guy
of course that came up with Survival of the fittest, right,
this idea that you have this superior race essentially within
all the animal kingdoms, you know, whatever ecology you want.
Speaker 1: To sit there and magnify.
Speaker 2: And then as you progress, of course, you have eugenicists
all this Thomas Huxley, I guess all this wasn't quite
the eugenesis as much as his brother and his father,
but all of them are kind of think tanker guys.
That seem to be the first iteration of what we
see Epstein bringing together with all of his scientists getting
together to kind of continue what seems to be what
they started back then. And what came out of it
is this idea of I guess, the stagnancy we see
with the technological progress. We have here to kind of
add to what you're saying, which is this idea of
linear progression. And you don't have this exponential growth, which
would then of course you wouldn't have utopia, right, you
wouldn't have any kind of great society.
Speaker 1: Now they seem to be.
Speaker 2: Kind of reverting a little bit and offering this idea
of an exponential growth from AI and almost to give
it these godlike attributes because it's going against this linear
progression that they've sold us for one hundred years.
Speaker 1: Am I kind of onto something there? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I think what they're doing right now like they
will allow a certain type of scientific and technological progress
if it is wrapped in sufficient thickness of mysticism that
is irrational. So if you can create a mythology around
why is the science happening and say, for example, we've
reversed engineered it out of alien advanced aircraft that crashed,
or it was communicated to us on LSD trips by
extra extra dimensional beings that gave us science, or we
are being used by disembodied spirit demon entities or the
Antichrist that have been used for multiple, multiple generations as
skin suits for the subconscious forces that are the Antichrist itself,
that is all of us, that is the collective unconscious
that has been using us against our even will to
create science and grow science so that a platform could
finally be brought into being, apparently by us, but not
really actually, because we're all possessed. We're all possessed by
these disincarnate forces that, now that they have the modern
Internet and cybernetic technology and command control and satellite systems,
can finally manifest itself physically, as Peter Thiel would want
us to believe.
Speaker 2: And they make that up to kind of explain the
idea of this anything outside of the logic of linear progression.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's outside that.
Speaker 2: Then they have to prove their logic still, okay and
correct by going, there's some other worldly thing going on
that we don't quite understand, and that's why we get this.
Speaker 1: Yes, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: We don't get it, and we're all, you know, just
confused here and it's chaos magic.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, exactly, genius. That's sort of the the formula
of how Thomas Huxley wired the sale of Darwin to
the people, because the idea was, okay, that's what's gonna
explain everything is Darwinian gradualism that's rooted in, like you said,
a struggle of the fittest to survive as it destroys
the weakest breeds, and that would justify, on the one hand,
the system of human control of empire. That the British
Empire could then say, well, you know, we must be
the most lawful natural thing, because Darwin and look, you
know what we're doing in India to create controlled famines.
It's distasteful, but it's necessary because it's science. And if
it wasn't true, if if this wasn't the most natural
way of doing things and we were wrong, then the
Indians would be the ones running the world empire, depopulating
us in England.
Speaker 4: But it's not the case. So we must have proven
genetically through what we're doing to Africa, the idiots, to
the Irish, that we're the most lawful way of organizing society.
So you know, look read your Darwin and then you
know from there there's just the corollarias of the natural
extension of that to human self organization more directly through
Herbert Spencer and Francis Galton, you know who just said, Okay,
well let's let's not beat around the bush. This is
directly like Darwin's like, oh, but that's just two different
different topics, and these guys are like, no, they're not
two different topics. It's the same topic. Let's just extend
your logic now to human social organization, and then we
could debate whether we want to centralized command and control
called eugenics of Galton, or do we want to just
like have a free market liberal system where the week
are weeded off by the strong in this social Darwinian
sort of more libertarian friendly survival of the fittest thing.
Either way, it's the same axioms that you share. It's
a fake debate.
Speaker 2: And that's when the Flexner Report came out in reference
to these this time period.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: It's just funny because it's like I would imagine that
the medical industry might have changed a little bit whenever
they decided to go from you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Thanks at the allopathic medicine, right.
Speaker 1: And that's nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 2: It is about nineteen thirteen, nineteen seventeen, And so I
didn't know where that fits into this timeline because you
see that, you know, they always do this where they'll
come out with a theory, a thing, a science name,
something you know, like trying to think of a modern
version of this, but they'll come out with something where
it's like, look, it's just isolated to this, but you
could see the writing on the wall if you're smart
and you're like no, that could be kind of brought
out to everybody and it does get done, you know later.
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious if maybe you know, that's a
good point.
Speaker 4: And the Rockefeller Foundation is going to play a big
role in a lot of this stuff, especially on the
tyel the Chaldean aspect of things, because you okay, so
here's it's all about dichotomies, right, controlled dichotomy. So here's
what I want to say. So and this this will
get into the whole reform in the medical system as well,
and science and the the the funding, control and flow
of science more generally into the disaster of the twentieth century. Yeah,
that'll flow. So he creates this idea saying, okay, you
have a choice. You have a choice of either being
a radical Christian funding and he would usually get the
most radical ignorant Anglican priest or whatever to go and
debate him, because Darwin was not competent enough to debate,
to defend his own ideas, so it required Huxley, who
was more like sardonic and witty, but he didn't even
believe in Darwin. He even admitted in his personal letters
that are that are an embarrassment today for those who
subscribe to Darwinian evolution as being somehow a legitimate approach
to explaining explaining evolution. He admitted in his letters that
he thought that Darwin's theory was incompetent, but he fought
to the death to defend it and and impose that
as the only option available. And the way he would
do it is he would market. He would say, he'd
create these high publicity events kind of like boxing matches
for nerds, I guess, and have like a lot of
media cover it. And it would have like an ignorant
priest on the one hand, who could only like argue
from the standpoint of the literal interpretation of the Bible
of six thousand years everything. Nothing existed before that, and
we lived with dinosaur bones are there to challenge us.
And he knew that was so weak that he could
just destroy it. And so that created this idea that okay,
you have to be one either a Christian fundy literalist,
or you could be a Darwinian literalist and it be
then a man of science. But there's nothing in between.
All of the real scientists were all iced out who
were explaining like natural uh not natural uh. They were there.
They were looking at intelligent design from a standpoint that
was grounded in real science, that was not rooted in
just interpreting things from what the Bible says. But but
but did acknowledge people like James Duy, Dana, Carl Ernst
von Bayer, the Lamark School. There's a whole QVA. There's
a whole network of scientists all over from the United
States of Europe who were all looking at purposefulness, harmony, orientation, directionality,
morality infused into their concept of like the flow of
what makes uh evolution move. So there is a whole
bunch of people who are doing who are bringing in
conceptions of the sun, of of what was then known
from from electromagnetic aspects of creation. Who we're all looking
at these different different components of of what was what
we need to hold into mind to explain why there
is is this thing of living matter that emerges and
moves and a lot of it disappears goes extinct. But
why what about these cataclysms that seem to happen right
that punctuate these moments of change. So anyway, all of
that was iced out. Now the theosophis came in. Blovatski
came in with her fake resolution, saying, Okay, there's a
crisis in faith. People are going nihilistic. They're having an
issue right now because now they don't have people who
are little, who don't want to give up their brain completely,
don't feel like they can be Christian anymore. So we're
going to supply that spiritual need. And then she basically
took a lot of the core ideas of Darwin, of
the survival of the fittest. She took that she allowed
at it, but she said, I am I am the
true opposition. It's not the Christians are incompetent. I am
the true embodiment of the solution concept, which now involved
in physics. Yeah, infusing her own nasty metaphysics anyway, of
like the assumption that's totally unprovable, and in saying of
like these pre uh, you know, Hyperborean, Lemurian, Atlantean root
races before us that are all seated by these causing
beings from Venus, which is basically the Lucifer morning Star,
that is Venus, that's that's Lucifer, and that these Venusian
four Venusian beings were overseeing this evolutionary flow, and that
would they would select from among the enlightened uh you know, Buddhas,
the Jesuses, they would they would either incarnate themselves, was
one of her positions into the form of these these
enlightened beings, these Matreyas, and who would then become the
ascended masters or she changed her view at a certain
point that these ascended masters just to rose and would
reincarnate themselves. So she went through a period where she
was either into the avatar thinking or into the reincarnation thinking.
But it was all pretty much the same ship that
you have these ascended masters, a small pantheon of which
you know, you had Master Maria Kuum like she made
a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Up who Alice Bailey came out and she continued that
work with the exisation of the hierarchy and she explains
how a planetary hierarchy is going to be merging. Coming
back here, that there was a terror ripped in the veil.
We could call it, which is this astral realm, And
they said there was around World War One, because of
all the emotional trauma during the World Wars, that there
was this portal you could say, opened up, and this
planetary hierarchy is coming. And I think it's just like
the archons, the demir you know, this kind of concept
of the same astrological pantheon that you know, we look
at everywhere that permeates.
Speaker 1: All different religions and mystery cults and so.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because if you look like this new
age concept comes from that, this whole age of Aquarius,
this merging seems to be what they're trying to manifest
their technology, which is why again this is entitled theosophical technocracy,
because I do believe that it is connected right in
line with the externalization of the hierarchy. Uh yeah, yeah,
very interesting. I mean it gets ran into blue beem.
What is bluebeam? That's what it is, the externalization of
the hierarchy. If it was real, I don't think it'll
literally happen like that, But I think that guy may
have gotten that idea from reading Alice Bailey's work.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think so. I mean Alice Bailey
is is sort of a poor counterfeit, but just sort
of carrying on the because all of these guys, as
soon as they feel like they've achieved their nosis, they're
now God and now whatever they imagine is reality, right,
and they're thus authorized to create their own myths that
they add on too. And this is where you get
a lot of these these egos emerge out of the
theosophical school that all have the idea that their God,
and then they have these disputes about what who May
is telling you know, leadbeaters say, no, he's telling me this,
and then yeah, I'm receiving these channel messages from from
these stated masters. No you're wrong, and then they'll create
these spinoff groups and then you'll have you know, William
that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Get touched on enough is how much fuckery was proven
to be going on with these guys, where they're like, dude,
we've gotten them in a room and they couldn't re
replicate what they were doing, you know, but they've got
all these writings that people reference and talk about, but
they always leave out the fact that these guys were
sham artists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, magic tricks, Yeah, like Raboski is is materializing she's
using magic tricks that were proven to be magic tricks.
A couple of people who were like working for her
were disgusted by her trap doors and all these secret
passages and her retire how like mansion in Adyar, India
was was wired to be a magic trick house so
that she could like manifest these fake letters from the
assented masters to tell her her servants to serve for
breakfast faster.
Speaker 1: She had the first fun house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first fun house, yeah. And they exposed this
A couple of her what do they call the uh
the kum the kulum Emma and her husband Kulam, who
I think were the grandchildren of the scientists actually, who
might have infiltrated her compound acting like they were supporters
in order to get the dirt that everyone knew who
had a brain was a very dangerous new syncratic religion
being like created artificially to overthrow all of the all
of society. And they brought this to the surface and
it was a big embarrassment in the eighteen eighties, and
and Blovotsky even like lost her position as the head
of the Theosophist for that period because of the massive embarrassment.
Speaker 2: While we're on this, I just, you know, I don't
think it'll take us too far off. I just want
to say that this shows that this idea of like
them incarnating God into Ai, or this idea of them
like I don't know, merging with some externalization of a
hierarchy is just bullshit. And what it's really about is
total control over people with the hierarchical structure, with you know,
men divine men rights to rule whatever they believe. It's
a theosophical thing in nature because it's got the root
race aspect to it. But it's really just about technocratic
police state, you know, where they run everybody in a
pyramidal structure again like they did before, and all this
other shit's just to sell you that idea, you know,
the divinity, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just wanted to put that, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's what all these guys are eugenesis too. But
I'll have to say, okay, so here's the thing. So
let's just to go back. You have this false debate.
She's resolving this false debate between materialism and spiritualism or
the materialism and religion. He's like, She's like, no, it's
gonna be this, it's gonna be Fioscy that resolves it,
and it's gonna be Darwinian, but directed by spiritual assted
masters that communicate and direct the flow of human beings
to our next phase of evolution through these cycles, of
which at the end of each each of these these
root races the older obsolete species like for example, blacks
and the the yellow people that she spoke Actually people
are trying to defend her, but she spoke very, very
racistly about how these were of a lower spiritual order
and are thus not not spiritually fit to survive this
new phase of evolution. So only the most advanced superior
Atlantean beings or beings that were seeded from Atlantis, which
is the teutonic Aryan racial type, they are the most
spiritually advanced who are qualified to oversee that transition. What
she even said is must happen in southern or in
the southwest of the United States, which will involve some
form of syncretization of East meeting West somehow.
Speaker 1: WHOA, let's pause there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on in that region right
now where they're trying to prove that there is this
this old world Egypt was here. Now there's a i think,
a different form of this that they're going to try
to say where it's not old Egypt it's here, it's
that Atlantis was here and that it, you know, was
connected to Egypt through this one world structure of like
you know, God King system, that kind of they're trying
to recreate again with you know, this Ai structure.
Speaker 1: But you've been.
Speaker 2: Seeing that right, like in the Grand Canyon where they
have certain areas that are labeled after like Egyptian places
like Memphis, et cetera, like the King's Chamber. But then
you go down there and you find higher glyphs, and
apparently the Smithsonian, you know, covered up findings that a
guy went there.
Speaker 1: Do you know about this story, Yeah, the Vivini Ridge
and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like the guy that you know went down there and
he got caught and essentially he talked about all this
stuff he found in the Grand Canyons that were Egyptian
iconic free He found literal temples inside of caves in
the Grand Canyon, and the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1: Completely covered it up.
Speaker 2: People have tried to go back there, and there's black
helicopters that will come if you try to go in there.
Speaker 1: And so there's this building.
Speaker 2: You know, this history of like building lies into this
theory that you're kind of pointing out right now, almost
to prove what you just said, the southwest merging of
East with west.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I'm quite convinced that the actual location of Atlantis.
And I interviewed the author of the Atlantis Puzzle, which
is a fantastic book, and I interviewed him a few
months ago, and this book is wonderful. And this guy
is a Greek scholar, and he just Plato's to Mais
and he translated the whole thing in new because he
was like all existent translations of Plato's Tomas. That is
the only thing that we really have as an authentic
document that talks about Blantis in a serious way, and
that the whole myth is built upon it. They're all mistranslated.
All of them were mistranslated by Benjamin Jowett, by all
of these Oxford Cambridge controllers of ancient Greek thought. So
the whole school of Greek translations is highly consolidated. In
the same way that the school of of empiricists science
was controlled by the Royal Society, the same thing was
by the same society to the domain of the classics.
So he just retranslated it more authentically than anybody's ever done,
and then just followed exactly the locations the that that
Plato documents within the Tomaos by, you know, the characters
of Pythagorea and Tomyos, the last surviving Pythagoreine describing this
this ancient civilization that so on had had had learned
from the Egyptians. And so he just goes through it
and I think proves the case better than anybody that
I've ever seen that it's it's in West Africa, northwest Africa.
There's a circular anyway.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's there?
Speaker 2: You think it's the Richard structure. Yeah, wait, yeah, the structure.
That's what that's called, right, That's called the rich Shard structure,
and not Yeah, I'm familiar with that.
Speaker 4: The water would have been very very high. Africa a
green oasis at that time. The there's areas of desert
that would have actually been plentiful full of water at
that period. And he goes through the different locations from
the Mediterranean where you would have had the entry point
of the Pillars of Heracles that would.
Speaker 2: Not be a guy's name. What's the guy's name? Is
this the guy that was like on Rogan?
Speaker 1: Okay, he's so good.
Speaker 2: Do you know who I'm talking about? The guy that
went on Rogan and he's talking about the same area. Uh,
I can't remember his name.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the guy Jack Kelly. Uh, puzzle, I'll
give you his Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I yeah, that should be a whole short of itself.
I haven't thought about it, so I haven't really quite
looked at it for a while. George Serentitious is the
Greek scholar that he was working with who did the translations.
Speaker 4: And it's just so well crafted anyway, and it also
ties into Homer too, which there's a there's a key
and I was I was saying to me, it's but
I meant to say credo the credo dialogue, and.
Speaker 2: I yeah, creteous or the ceous courteous.
Speaker 4: The cretious dialogue is the actual ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, creteous is the son or the you know, son
or brother or something like.
Speaker 1: That, right of a.
Speaker 4: I forget.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a whole line because it's like nine
hundred years later and it's a it's a whole thing,
you know, And and another just not to get off
on this too much. But you know there's this concept
of it being like the noble lie where it was
never actually real, and it was this concept of just
too warring, too warring, uh, cities that were actually not
yeah the sea and yeah, like.
Speaker 1: It was an analogy.
Speaker 2: It was like Athens wasn't really ran by philosopher kings,
but in the story it was, and they went to
or with the materialistic.
Speaker 1: God king style Atlantis, right.
Speaker 2: And you know, so it's just kind of like this
weird thing where some people say it was all an
analogy that's been literalized over time and and now the
elites are using it to justify their rule, you know,
which is interesting. That's what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a control. Everything is controlled by myths, right,
So that's all history. And from the way I see
it is that you have two different categories of myths,
Like either those myths that are created from from at
least an honest heart that is intended that that that
make us better people in some way, that make us
more that through the myth, whether it's a sacred story
or whatever.
Speaker 1: Noble lie, Yeah, that's a noble lie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that legitimately do make us more in tune with
God's creation, with natural law, that that help us become
more self aware of who we really are and thus
ironically more capable of scrutinizing the myths that we maybe
thought were true when we're younger, that we didn't realize, oh,
that was a sacred myth. So the ones that basically
help you get out of the cave, those that immerse
you more into the cave.
Speaker 2: And they've inverted that structure, they've inverted that system where
now they're selling us myths that actually degrade our thinking,
degrade our understanding of reality. And actually they're doing the
opposite of a noble lie. It's just a flat lie.
Speaker 4: That's good, man, it's a good that's a good, good exercise. Well,
going back to what you were saying about, Yeah, the
the effort to try to make it appear as though
Atlantis is somehow located in or was located in the
United States coast of the West, the United States. There's
there's also issues of like there's been efforts to try
to make it appear as though Lemuria was just off
the coast of the Pacific Navy. Mount Shasta is a
part of Lemuria that's still you know above. I would
say for me at least, there there's two aspects of this.
You've got the forged fake stuff, and then you've got
the real evidence of an international maritime civilization that had
a very high degree of awareness of spherics, of the
mapping of the stars, that were building structures in harmony
with the same universal sort of set of of ideas
that were discoverable and derived from the type of periodicities
and measurements one could get by by mapping out the
cycles of the planets of the stars and things like that.
And so all of mathematics that I think that we
know of has been inverted by the same kind of
controllers that want to keep us in the cave to
make it seem as though the the what that math
emerged out of just counting shit or wanting to make
money and having accounting systems in Sumer or Babylon, and
thus out of math came geometry, and out of geometry
came physics and astronomy. At the end of the day,
whereas I think the reality, the real evidence points to
the fact that no is actually astronomy that came first.
And yeah, sure we could differentiate that there's two rocks,
not three rocks or something that that probably grew in parallel,
but it's not like math emerged first. I think that
the the math is is a tertiary phenomenon to first
the star body of physics of astronomy, and then from
there you have geometries that we can, like the Golden Section,
we could begin to start discovering pretty quickly by looking
at how these nonlinear changes happen in the stars, in
the procession of equinoxes, things like that, and then from
there you can get, like you could derive from study
of the Golden Section, things like the metric system, like
what we know of as being the even the imperial system,
and a lot of the metrics that are used in
the formation of the pyramid of Cofru, of the various
geometries that are organizing the structures of match Repeachu and
the structures of Guatemala and all over. And so there's
a lot of evidence that there was one unifying well
but with multiple not one unifying religion and one unifying culture,
but there was one unifying sort of system of commerce
that had certain common sharing of ideas.
Speaker 2: Do you think that they had the pyramids like apart
from each other in a proportionate micro way as the
planets were.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they were trying trying to do
that resonitely emulating what they could see of the promontories
of the planets. For sure, I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think that that's really an intriguing thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah. There's another guy, a friend of mine named Fami Krasniki,
who did a great documentary, the best one in I interview.
I actually did a series of like nine interviews with
him that are that he just blew my mind with
the quality of his research. And it's a three hour
documentary that he did in twenty nineteen called what's called
K nineteen The Great Pyramid, And I'll send you actually
that link. I thought it was the most responsibly done
account of or meta hypothesis of the pyramids, but not
just of the Egypt. He begins with that, but then
of the of the alternative building methods that would have
involved pouring concretes not not necessarily moving big giant, multi
ton blocks huge distances. He actually goes a very very
good distance into demonstrating the molding and the evidence for
that of many of the concrete techniques inside of the Pyramids,
but also how that was replicated in the New World
as well. Well, it wasn't really called the New World
right back then.
Speaker 2: Man, I could see that that that actually would be
crazy if they could prove that, because that would make
a lot more sense. Maybe they didn't know how to
make really nice smooth concrete, you know.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and anyway, I'll I'll send it the documentary
and builds on that. And uh. And it doesn't rely
on like Atlanteans super being Venusians, It doesn't rely on
on aliens help and it's not it doesn't rely on
on high advanced lasers. But it does break free of
the standard model garbage molding or garbage explanation that we're
we're told we have to adopt if we want to
be scientific in each gypology, the same way that you know,
biologists are told if they want to be scientific and respected,
they have to adopt the Darwinian mold. And there's and
the and thus those who who reject that constricting absurdity
and all the absurdities that go with that type of
standard model will tend to often fall into the theosophical
trap of then trying sort of irrational of gnostic mystic
types and they will miss the nuance in between. So
one of the things that that was needed from the
Christian side. And this is where the Jesuits of Pierre
Tel de Chaldan, who later becomes a h the founder
of the term with Julian Huxley their friends in the
forties and fifties. He he comes into play here because
now that the Jesuits, under what are called the Modernists
of Chardy and his sect within the Jesuits, they're deployed
now to resolve the discrepancy by merging Darwinianism with Christianity,
so to bring Darwin into the church and to reform
the church that way, but not just for Darwin, but
for modernism more broadly, to get the church to accept
modern ideas. Now that becomes a false this is, this
becomes the scarecrow for what the the traditionalists despise when
because they think all things that are modernistic are evil, right,
all things that lead to technological progress is evil. But
that what they're reacting to is the type of chardy
uh disgusting infusion of modernism intoo Christianity, which was never
supposed to work. Oh, the biblical hitman is doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, shout out Stevens, he's doing tonight. Nice.
Speaker 2: I'll be out of turning into that later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely I will too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Chavette is a disgusting piece of shape, like really really
really gross person. He's like calling for he's running openly
about his call for forced eujetics onto the world in
a healthy type of scientific society. But he's a Christian supposedly, who's.
Speaker 2: All by may. Uh you know, do you know who
James Giordano is, doctor James Giordana, James Giordano, James Giordano.
He's a what would you call him? A neuro warfare
expert and uh, you know, he's he's like deep into
the DARPA, you know. But he came out of Georgetown,
which is at Jesuit College, and very much into this
kind of what you just said, this forest, but through
science and this new Yeah, he very much creating the
foundations of that being possible. M Yeah, I would look
into him. He's he's an interesting character. I've written him down. Okay, Well,
what he's deployed to do he immediately is so he
starts his career early on, already participating with conan Sir
Ethor Conan Doyle and a team in England. He's just
like he was working in Egypt. And then he goes
on a little bit of a sojourn for a few
months to England where he just happens to be to
fall upon a little tooth somewhere in uh in Piltdown,
England and uh and there's an excavation that begins with
his little discovery of a few little chips of bone
and a tooth. And they this this this Royal Society team,
it's it's all the Royal Society. They then do this excavation.
Speaker 4: He's participating in this that generates what's called the Piltdown
Man as the missing link. And they're like, ah see,
finally Darwin is right, because there are missing links and
it's right here, we're tie out of the shellde happened
to like bump his toe on a tooth. Now it's
discovered years later, like a decade later, somebody actually does
the work on the jawbone.
Speaker 6: And the the parcels of skull that were sort of assembled,
and it's proven that this thing was just a dyed
canine tooth with like a monkey jawbone and a human
skull or some inversion of that.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So they didn't even excavate anything else there,
and they just mixed shit together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they just didn't extract out. Then they
made like, you know, artistic renderings of what these little
fragments were basically that looked kind of like a mix
between them a monkey and today's human right. And so
it was proven back in the twenties that it was
a complete hoax. But by then the idea was already
seeping in because we went through ten years of propaganda
just influencing our felt thoughts of those who would like
just read that the the missing link was solved and
not think any more about the disclaimer in nineteen twenty three,
like ten years later saying oh yeah, maybe that was
a not maybe that was a fraud, But that's for
the logic now doesn't matter, because the felt thought matters more.
That's now what's acting on the ZEI, pipt And and CHLDY.
Then you know, he's still trying to like reform the church.
He's a disruptor and at a certain point because he's
again he's bringing in anti Christian dart concepts, he's trying
to into church doctrine, which they're clearly incompatible. The idea
of survival of the fittest, all the stuff. It's not
compatible with the idea that mankind is made in the
living image of God. That's not compatible.
Speaker 2: So then it is whenever you hammer on the Scholfield
chosen you know people right, the thirteen tribes right, When
then you start hammering on that a little harder, it
might be a little bit more compatible.
Speaker 4: Good point, yeahs Uber mentioned. Yeah, And that's another thing
about about chl Bank. He's also a follower of Nietzsche.
He's also trying to promote the idea of the uber
mention of Nietzsche to Christianity. But he speaks so nicely
you now, and he about the christ consciousness idea, and
it became like kind of like a bomb for the
soul of many baby boomer hippies who just like resonated
with his outwards like it's it's true. When you read
just the outward surface appearance of what he says, it
seems a lot of it seems innocuous and kind of
pretty and nice. It makes you feel good. But then
if you actually look at his letters, you look at
the the the what's implicit in his in his writings
that he's sort of like hinting at but you will
only find what he actually means by going to his
personal letters. Then you're like and and you look at
what he's doing as well, that that's important. Then you're like, oh,
he has he's lying to us. And there's just like
like any of the theosophist, there's an exoteric and an
esoteric school of theosophy. And for the initiated, then they
get to discover the real uh Blavatsky, the real Bailey,
the real tay Alasalve. And one of the things he
does then does he goes he sent he's exiled to China,
and he starts working with Rockefeller funded programs that, for example,
take him to Peaking Today's Bay, where he all of
a sudden is participating a few years later in the
Peaking Men Excavation, which basically tries to correct the problem
of the fallacy of the pilt down Man hoax, which
is a hoax, and so basically he's the Rockefeller Foundation
is funding this thing again to prove the missing link exists.
And they find a bunch of bones. Somebody describes what
the bones are. They put him in a crate. They
is on site helping the excavation. They put the crate
on a train. It disappears forever. Nobody ever sees it again,
but it's sold to the world to this very day,
and people in Oxford and Harvard they still act like
this is somehow not a.
Speaker 1: Joke that these things out.
Speaker 4: Man, the piltout bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I've seen a digital rendition of
that before.
Speaker 4: Right, no one's ever seen the bones been gone for
like ninety years.
Speaker 2: They're insane, dude, They still, like National Geographic will have
like an episode about it.
Speaker 1: Still come on, you.
Speaker 4: Know, oh man, it's so it's so crazy. So at
that point, like he's in Shanna for twenty years, he
never learns the Chinese language. He despised the Chinese people.
He writes about how how disgusting he thinks the Chinese
are and how he'll never learn this language. He thinks
that actually they're an inferior breed. He talks about that.
So again, the defenders of of Chlding. I've written a
long essay on Sheldon, and I wrote a whole chapter
in one of my books, and I've had a lot
of his defenders come out attacking me for like slandering
their hero, and I'm like, but what, how do you
how do you respond to any of the quotes that
I'm setting from. I'm like, just deal with what he's saying.
And then and they can't do it because it's a
religious thing for them. It goes beyond logic. So but
he does it, and then he's he's participating in this thing,
and he becomes friends of all people with Julian Huxley,
and he describes him and Julian just are they're they're
they're working together with UNESCO that Julian is setting up.
And this is the grandson of Thomas Huxley, right, so
they're there. UNESCO is playing a big role in a
lot of chl Dan is interfacing with as far as
trying to get the control of the study of anthropology,
of the sacred sites of the old stories of humanity.
That's the purpose of UNESCO more than anything else. And
Julian Huxley says it explicitly in his founding documents that
the purpose of UNESCO is to bring people towards a
realization why eugenics is the queen of all sciences and
we need to accept the one World government, and he
says that in his manifesto, which is on the UNESCO website.
Speaker 1: So can we pause on that a little bit.
Speaker 2: So the Chinese aspect to this, is it interesting that
they have the most advanced form of what they want
to bring into this one world government system. And when
you think about this thirteen tribes and then the Illuminati
thirteen blood lines, it's kind of weird that there's like
this weird parallel there, only in the sense that people
will accept that the thirteen leaders just to throw out
an arbitrary kind of concept here that they're divine right
to rule even though really they're this bloodline of Illuminati family, right.
And so I think it's kind of interesting little parallel there,
because in China you already kind of have because of
the Rockefeller Trilateral connection and everything back in the.
Speaker 1: Early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: They kind of accepted this system a long time ago,
this global you know, one world government system, and we're
kind of late and just kind of approaching converting into this.
But I think that when you look at China you
could see, because they don't like the Asians, that they
were pretty quick on just like, let's get rid of
them first. And get this institution into place first for them,
almost out of their disdain for them, that they were
kind of the first scapegoats.
Speaker 4: There's yeah, I would almost want to have like a
whole show just just to sit down with you and
chat about this, because there's a layers to this, yeah,
that you're bringing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.
Speaker 4: I feel like any anything that I pull on will
almost derail the flow of the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like listening to you talking about the
China aspect and then this and that.
Speaker 4: Kind of well, definitely they have been obsessed for centuries
with destroying China and also India as two ancient civilizations
that have a continuous memory. They did a better job
of scrubbing the memory of the Indians because the British
directly controlled India for like two and a half centuries,
and during that time. I got a friend, actually, Matthew Crawford,
who I don't know if you have you looked at
Matthew Crawford's work.
Speaker 2: I've heard of his name, Yeah, yeah, I have read,
not that I remember.
Speaker 4: He did something. He's done the most incredible work on
the British control of India and how the British Empire
literally rewrote the sacred stories created Hinduism, which didn't even
exist before the nineteenth century. Before the British created hindu
there was the Vedas, the Vedic religions that existed, right,
But the British Empire literally created new Bremen caste religion
out of the Indus Valley concept that you know, if
you want to be friends of the British and get
become good sub alphas as local managers of the plantation
called India, then you was the new cast that Aldus
Huxley also adored and you like used to emulate that
that caste system that didn't even exist in that form
in any way before the British Empire. The cast system
was a much more fluid thing before the British Empire
got in there, and it just sort of denoted certain
positions of in society that you could move in and
out of based upon your will and your your capacity.
And you're merrit.
Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that, all right.
Speaker 1: So UNESCO.
Speaker 2: UNESCO's purpose was to get people to accept one world government.
Speaker 1: Sorry for derailing you, but yeah, I could totally see that.
Speaker 2: I could see the Asian agenda there. That's been kind of.
Speaker 4: Well and this yeah, yeah, and this is a lot
of what Blovatsky when she's bringing in Indian Eastern mysticism
or Eastern thinking into this new syncretic kind of uh uh,
highly adaptive world philosophy, this perennial philosophy that she's trying
to weave that could just absorb and and and suck
in anybody. Right, it's so adaptive that an and attractive,
the gravitational force of the malleability of this new type
of stew the type of Hindu and Buddhist doctrine that
she likes is the type that was largely artificially concocted
from scratch by the British Empire and their social engineers
in India. It's not real, it's not authentically Indian even
it's right. That's where where Annie Bessants who become she's
both a Fabian Society eugenicist, but then she's also the
head of the Theosophist Society who then sets up the
India Congress Party. So she's working with this guy Auto
Alan Octavian Hume, who's a British imperialist civil servant in
India who then sets up He's assignedist set up the
India Congress Party to absorb all of the revolutionary energy
of the Indian and Muslim and seek movements that were
all fighting against the British Empire. And all of that
had to be controlled, readopt redirected in a controlled way
so that you could have, as he calls it, the
creation of pressure valves to release the pressure of the
revolutionary tendency. And he does this. He's a theosophist. He's
he's not only a theostophist, he's a member of the
esoteric section of the theosophist and he is working closely
with Blavaski in Adyar. He's working with any Bissant who
becomes the head later on the president of the India
Congress Party and uh and so yeah, like there, that's
the variation, that's the damage that they're doing, yeah to India,
which today to this very day, Gandhi is introduced to
the study of the Bagavadita and the and the study
of the that is when he's in London, he's in
London at the uh AT, studying at the at the
Inner Temple, and that's he's going to theosophical meetings. Who
are and it's the theosophist, teaching him what it means
to be in Indian studying the baghabdita. Right, he's friends
with might he might have some dispute with how Annie
Bissant wants to run things, but he's still a respectful
friend of hers, even to his old age. Judo Christian
Morti is also a member of uh not Christian Christian
Morty sorry uh uh uh nehru jirohal nehru I can't
pronounce his first name. But he's also a Fabian Society
member who might get off the reservation at a certain point.
But this is completely shaped by these theosophical ideas as well,
and he's bunker it. He's you know, having an affair,
having sex with Lord Louis mount Batten's wife, so she's
becoming this like, you know, little plaything of the of
the elites who are using him. And maybe again later on,
I'll admit that he might get off the reservation. He's
disgusted by what the British are doing. So I'm not
saying that these are one dimensional characters. Neither of them
am I saying that God he is a one dimensional character.
Although he's probably a pedophile. He might have gotten off
the reservation. Still all that to say, they same thing
for China. They've been afraid of the idea that these
ancient civilizations, if they become self aware of what they
are in a proper way, then they represent a force
that could be reckoned with and that could upset the construct,
the construction or the ambition of those who are running
the British Empire who want to co opt, take back
control of America and then create this sort of new,
impenetrable Roman empire that ms laps this time around.
Speaker 2: Which is why the Bank of England, when people hammer
at the Bank of England being like at the core
of this kind of global conspiracy. It makes a lot
of sense when you kind of hear this, this.
Speaker 1: Kind of get fleshed out, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of the American deep state problems,
a lot of this is British, from the Rhodes scholars,
the Fabian this, the Theosophist penetrations into America at the
end of the nineteenth century. A lot even that the
very creation of the Skull and Bones. Even before before
these agencies were created, you still already had a British
fifth column that was already setting up shop with Wall Street,
so you can actually prove that all of Wall Street
as we know it, all of the Yale operation Ellie
Whu Root, who was the Skull and Bones leader, and
ahead of Yale, this guy was in charge of Chenai,
the private corporation of Chennai, which is a theosophical hub
and it's still a major cult control center of politics
even to this very day. And it runs in a
very similar way as the city of London runs as
a city within a city, as a private corporation, but
in India right above the control and influence of the state.
So it's is.
Speaker 2: They're one of those in like every country that is
ran by I mean not every country, but you know
what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Is this like a more common thing then?
Speaker 2: Because we always think of the Vatican, London DC, But
this probably, I mean, I would I would venture to
guess it probably is more common.
Speaker 4: It's not in every country, but it's there. Is there
are these control hubs, these nobs, Yeah, for sure. And
that's that's Chennai, the Corporation of Chennai that Elihu Wu
had run for the British. This is what was running
the Opiumores. So the faction of the American aristocracy that
was running the Opimores and making the riches in the
nineteenth century. They were the ones who were allied always
to this. They were the pro British faction of America
that wanted to have this Anglo American, you know, organization,
and they basically despised the American revolutionary ideas, so they
wanted to undo the seventeen the Founding Documents state they
thought that that was a mistake. We should have always
just remained loyal to the British Empire and thus co
control the world is the ang Saxon races, you know,
forever without any type of disruption. So they were always
the ones, you know, overseeing the murder of so many
of the American presidents was this faction. And there's been
like eight American presidents that died while in office. And
if you can look at what they're all doing, they're
all picking fights with the exact same institutional traditions and
the representatives that are overseeing the destruction of China of India.
It's continuous, it's totally continuous, and they have penetrations into
massively India. I think that China and this is where
maybe in a future conversation, we can talk about some
of the new ones I've detected more of a battle
where I think that the Chinese have actually battled this
thing more than people realize, and that's obscured, but I
think that could be demonstrated in a bunch of conversational
positions that we could have in the future. But not
definitely we will, yes, uh, because a lot of us,
even if you look at like the worst things we're
told about China's social credit stuff, this is all stargate.
It's not none of this is coming out of China.
It's stargate operations from the city of London that seeded
into the into Califun. Yeah, created Stargate open Ai, all
of the ship Golden Sacks funding it. A lot of
this is run out of the Cavan Islands that then
were brought into China, especially into the in the late
nineties early two thousands, and that there's there's a battle
inside of China over extricating this thing and putting a
lot of the representatives of this force in prison. That's
what we're not told even in our alternative media. There's
a big, a big blackout wall there. But again that's
a whole side Trump signed.
Speaker 2: When Trump signed Stargate recently into you know, when he
started his presidency this past this most recent time. After
signing it, all the tech guys went with him to
sit down with the king, remember that, Yeah, right after yep.
So there's an interesting fact there factoid regarding this. They
started Stargate, he signed Stargate, all the tech bros go there,
and it is one one technocratic world order. But yeah, okay,
so again with the UNESCO created UH for accepting this
one world government and how it kind of of course.
Speaker 4: So then you have like that tell out the Shelding
and Julian Huxley, who together this is the same time
nineteen fifty four that Julian Huxley is writing his new
wine for new new wine skins for new wine, skins
for old wine or new wine for old wine skins.
Speaker 2: I forget anyway, I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 4: This is where the term transhumanism in it's in its
current UH terminology is coined I think for the first really, yeah,
I need to read that.
Speaker 2: I what a what a covert title for a very
uh you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's part of an homage to something that
that Thomas Huxley had written earlier forgetting the name anyway,
it's in my book. But so yeah, you have both
him and Chard in his o make up point and
his Phenomenon of Man. He's writing me, he's actually writing
Julian Huxley is writing the introduction for the Phenomenon of
Man by Chardin where he's also adding more detail but
a little bit more for a religious audience, whereas Julian
is catering his message for a more scientific audience. Of course,
in both of them, they're friends. They act like ones
and materialist ones a Christian spiritualists, but they're actually the
same thing. They're just catering again, they're messaging to different
audiences to nudge everybody to the same solution concept.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the idea of the.
Speaker 4: Transhumanist thing that then becomes stargate. So the whole stargate
thing is driven by the SRI. Right, So the first
iteration of stargate was set up already by the CIA
and the SRI in California back in nineteen seventy two.
So seventy three is that officially gets off the ground.
It's founding members are leading figures from scientology, right, how
Putov and NGOs Swan and not just low level Scientology members.
These are like seven ot operating feet and level like
very elite members of the Scientology group become the founding members.
Jacques Vallet is brought in by Helpouotof. They remain lifelong
friends and still work together to this very day. And
it's help Poutof that gives Jacques val a security clearance
from the CIA to to be involved in this thing.
They bring in Uh spoon Bender guy right Jury Yeller,
who himself is a creation of of of poch Is,
you know, overseeing the whole nine concoction, along with the DuPonts,
the Forbe family, the the Melons. So you got these
these these leading members of these oligarchical blue blood families
who are getting together to be the assembled prophets or
channelers of the the Nine, overseen by this Theosophus named
the Jock or something. I'm forgetting what is.
Speaker 1: Nine for anybody?
Speaker 4: The nine is a a creation. It's a it's a
post World War two theosophical rebranding of channeled messages of
ascended masters, but with more of an ET spinoff, where
there's these imagined UH emissaries of the higher gods that
want that want chosen selected super being human elites to
direct the flow of human evolution to enlightenment, pretty much
towards the externalization of a hierarchy. To to say it simply,
could it be said that there?
Speaker 2: Could it be said that they want to accelerate it.
Speaker 4: Yes, the accelerationists and they want to uh there there
there these nine beings that exist in the I think
one of the there's different flavors right that that emerge.
Either they're in the the the rings of Saturn, so
you got this whole Saturnian cult asp. But some say
that they come from serious So there's different variations spinoff
groups that have different interpretations of where the niner are
existing in a either astral or temporal physical material domain.
Some say they're disembodied, uh, some say they're physical. It's
different flavors are the same thing. But the idea that
that Puharich was because he was one of the key
overseers of this grouping but his but his sponsors who
are participating in these seances channeling the nine, the messages
from the nine and then inscribing them through automatic writing
and other things, were again leading members of the melon
the DuPont family, the Forbes family.
Speaker 2: If I may, while we're on this, I'm sorry to
cutting you off, but I just feel like it's important here.
Cornelius Agrippa came up with this idea of the nine
a long time ago, like this angelic hierarchy of nine.
He was a hermeticist who wanted to merge Kabbala with
Christian mysticism and merge it all together, this perennial philosophy,
which actually leads into the traditionalist movement. Dugan follows him,
you know, studies his work along with Gwennon's work and
kind of brings it all together. But when you look
at Agrippa and what he started, it seems to permeate
into what you're saying, the Order of the Nine with this,
i'm sorry, the order of the nine angles, which is
an accelerationist movement. And you also have the Nine, which
is what you're describing, which is less of a dark
accelerationist eugenics movement, but it's more of like this ascension
idea of bringing people under this ideology. But I think
it's interesting it comes all the way back from Agrippa.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, dude, Now that that Agrippa, but there's this whole
Paracelsian network that even goes before Agrippa, that that is
all these neo Platonic sort of scientific engineers. They're they're
they're they're taking some of the formulas that that Plato
lays out in the Republic, and they're just working it
literally like they're using, like I think Plato whenever I've
read I've read all of Plato except for except for
the there's a couple of dialogues I haven't read, but
I've I've studied Plato for years, and I'm totally of
the view that Plato is giving us the keys to
breaking out of the cave, and he's providing it like
in the Republic. Within the context of everything he's doing,
it's really a both a warning. He's showing you how
he's taking people for the very first time into the
sausage actor. He's showing you all of the the internal
workings of something that is very ancient, that's been around.
He didn't create the system that he outlines within the
ten Books of the Republic. He's showing you what's already
been there and the reason why we're all enslaved and
being fucked over, and by giving you the by by
doing it in that dialectical fashion, he's giving you all
of the techniques and also tools to break out of it.
Whereas these guys, all of the neo Platonists that come
after him, were actually just hermeticists. They take the outward
forms of what he does in the tamais about the
as above so us below, but then they they they
make it mystical hullabaloo. They just heart creating whatever type
of hogwash symbolism that they that they can come up
with to then build these whole tapestries of space operas
and stories in a very gnostic kind of fashion, which
are super condoluted today.
Speaker 1: You really approve it.
Speaker 2: I need to talk to you if I write this book, because,
like you're I think you know the details that I
don't quite know about. I feel it like an instinct
knowing that that's what was done by reading his work
and seeing how it's been obviously used today to try
to put certain narratives, and I can see it, but
I don't quite know all the details, so we'll have
to talk more about that part later. Because I could
see that, yeah, you could see the details of how
they've taken it and just completely strung it along into
new ideologies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like and so that's the agripa. All of these
guys there, they love the idea of They call themselves Platonis,
but they're not. They're they're actually the thing that Plato
is trying to fight. If you read the like the Sophist,
Plato's the Sophist, or Plato's The Statesman, or Plato's Permendes Dialogue,
he's making fun of these, uh, these doppelgangers, these people
who will who they existed, these theosophical types, they existed
before they had that name in Plato's time, and they
were there. They were emulating the outward structure of what
Plato's philosophy, Socra's philosophy was in the Pythagorean philosophy. But
they were doing they were they were tricksters. And he's
sort of again he's not being literal, and people get
very frustrated with Plato because he's not literal, but he's
creating dissonances for the mind to appreciate, how the where
are the flaws and the arguments? Where the flaws and
the axims? Where is the slights of hand? Where are
the slights of hand that are causing you to start
with good premises in your pursuit of like what is
justice and but then to result in horrific outcomes. And
He's given you like the clues what is causing the
mind to get tricked step by step into this horrific place.
And this is what Agriply and others are doing. And
I think, yeah, like when you look at the transhuman
the theosophical roots of transhumanism, and again the theosophists set
up the Valerian Brothers set up out of the Kratonal
Lodge in California. Valeerian Brothers were the founders of what
I would say is Silicon Valley in nineteen oh seven.
They were progeny. They were born into this theosophical sect
that I think was the spinoff of the Riyan Lodge.
Of was it? It might have been William Kwan Judge's
Aryan lodge that that's big in Mexico and in Baja,
But oh no, this is the the the any Bassant lodge.
I think that's the more official, the big, the more
effective lodge. Well anyway, the Krotono Lodge was where the
Valerian Brothers were born out of they they became the
founders of the the what became Silicon Valley as tech
firms in California that always had the idea of manifesting
the new race.
Speaker 2: They didn't have drilled down on that. Yeah, drill down
on that, because that's this. This is the the merging
in with Silicon from the Theosophist.
Speaker 1: And I, so who are these guys, the Valerian Brothers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the valer I go through them in Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm buying all your books, dude, I'm gonna tell you
that right now. Okay, all three of those ones you mentioned.
And what's this Rosicrucian gollumn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's volume two Islam. And I go through the
story of the Valerian Brothers and Silicon Valley.
Speaker 2: And Tesla on there is Tesla Rosicrucian. No way, dude,
Oh wow, wow, wow, wells another conversation sometimes I love
about that.
Speaker 4: You can't there's no smoking gun that as a Rosicrucion.
But let's just say he's he's one degree separation from
Sulfer in every direction you could imagine from bulwer Lytton,
who he studies. Bulwer Lytton's writing is the Rosicrucian grand
Master who oversees the Rosicrucian Renaissance in England, and that
seeds that actually trains Blobotsky. A lot of the auspice
actually has an outcome of the bulwer Lytton operation. Also
Thomas Huxley, he's he's a big Thomas hux So. Nikola
Tesla is studying the X Club members, Herbert Spencer Huxley,
he's calling for medatory. There's a here I have of
Tesla giving to Hitler's official spokesman for in Washington, d C.
George Sylvester Verrake, who is his best friend. He writes
poetry to Hitler's official spokesman, George Sylvester Rake, who they're
best friends for like twenty fucking years. And Tesla is
giving interviews for this guy. He's a mainstream journalist as well,
this great guy talking about his belief in mandatory eugenics
for the world. Oh yeah, this is published, man.
Speaker 2: It makes sense because they want a scientific hierarchy over everybody, right.
Speaker 1: That rules.
Speaker 4: He's not a scientist, that's the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they believe themselves to be like scientific thinkers, right,
I mean yeah, yeah, Tesla did he believe himself to
be an inventor scientist type.
Speaker 4: I think he was so mystically inclined that he was
being driven by the higher spirits. He thought of himself
as a human automaton. He and he actually there's quotes
that I have not of only of him. He describes
his mission as the proof of the world that the
soul is a chimera, the soul doesn't exist, and that
he says that we are just the product of external forces.
That causality for why wars happened cannot be understood by
going to the mind. That's an illusion. It's all caused
by the sun and forces of nature. And should you
should just stop there and be satisfied with those kinds
of materialists that get explanations. He So, I think he
really does believe himself to be a magical robot and
uses nicol Tesla. Yeah, And I think he's because of
his psychological profile. He's very similar to the psych profile
of an Isaac Newton, who also is like this hyper
kind of Asperger's sort of character who was mystically inclined,
very cabalistic, thought he was the Messiah. He thought he
was like literally of a higher assented being. And I
don't think those types of personalities who are miss messianic
in their in their complex are very easy to handle
him to manage. And and because they think that they're great,
they think that they're awesome, and they don't see how
like Uri Yeller is another personality type like this. In
my mind, he's a joke. When you listen to him speak,
you like he said, you've seen the spoon bending fan
club right for the spoon bending the spoon Institute that
went to interview him on YouTube. People could watch this interview,
and he actually believes that there's a spoon Institute. He
believes that that exists. And this guy is a is
a comedian who basically goes and starts interviewing You're a
Yeller who clearly thinks he's freaking awesome. He thinks that
he got these mystical powers from ets that gave him
these powers to bends. He knows that he's doing magic tricks.
He can't do his spoon bending if he doesn't control
his spoons. Like Johnny Carson brought all of Johnny Carson
on Live TV, brought his own spoons and his own
cups onto live show, onto the live performance that Ury
Yeller didn't know what was going to happen. He thought
it was going to be his spoons and his cups.
He couldn't do any magic, and so he knows he's lying.
It's a different species of lying, right, because they're conduits
from an ascended.
Speaker 2: He was just on Joe Rogan and he had Joe
Rogan was doing the thing with the spoon, and he
was able to eventually bend it. He's like, I could
do it, but I had to take a lot of forces,
like yeah, no, I barely touched it when I did it,
you know, and just doing this kind of weird thing
where it was like, dude, are we serious right now?
To grown men are here bending spoons trying to act
like there's some kind of divine This is crazy. We
ventured this, like mate, full on, this is the matrix here, yes,
I mean, and this is recently.
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan had had this guy on his show.
Speaker 2: He had he had I didn't know his name off memory,
but yeah, spoon bender guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was on there.
Speaker 2: He brought the spoon that he bended whenever he was
in or bent whenever he was in you know, whatever
school he was in and he brought it with him.
Speaker 1: He said, this is the exact spoon and everything.
Speaker 4: Dude, it's like cultural mush, dark aged stuff. Okay, so yeah, dang,
that's so. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: In my book, I've got like nine chapters specifically going
through different angles of different aspects of Tesla. And that's
not to say that that the legitimate inventions associated with
Tesla are not legitimate inventions. My position though, is, after
all of the evidence I've seen, including uh a multitude
of data points of specific inventions that I know and
can prove were discovered by other people, including the Tesla coil,
he don't his discoveries are legit discoveries as far as
they were made by objective human beings and turn and
turned into inventions that were objectively made and are useful.
But they were they were stolen from actually the same
way the scientific discoveries associated with Isaac Newton are legit discoveries,
but they were discovered by people who were not Isaac Newton.
They were lifted, stolen, and copied and then associated with
this guy with this whole story that you know, apples
have to fall on the head for you know, gravity
to be discovered.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the idea of like Marx, right, Marx was
put up and and he didn't even write his manifesto,
you know. And same thing with Darwin, like there's theories
that Darwin didn't come up with a lot of the
things he said.
Speaker 1: He just was these frontmen that they get chosen to be.
Speaker 4: What is exactly what is useful in Darwin's system, just
like what's useful in Marxist system, because there are mechanical
useful things within their systems of descopital and within origin
of species that that do emulate things that we empirically
find and that you could you could take you could
make useful bits of progress. But those elements you will
find invariably actually are from real scientists and then packaged
into this new highly problematic model of either Marxist like
Marxist studying American system economists like Henry C. Kerry, who's
corresponding with Marx. Marxis reading Kerry, He's reading list. These
are real, actual moral, solid revolutionary economists who are who
are harmonizing the liberty of the individual, that is, that
is primary to the welfare of the whole society. That
you could also think of as sort of an objective
thing that has cycles, that has needs of increasing powers
of production, right, not decreasing it for the whole society,
as an almost like an you can it's a useful
way to think about humanity as a whole that has
certain objective needs. You got to increase water access, you've
got to increase food production, you got to increase new
technologies to overcome limits to growth as an objective whole.
But do it in such a way that it's not dictatorial,
that you don't just have a scientific creatorship managing levers,
but that actually allows for the faith that the individual
given liberty can actually and you know, harmonize both have
individual incentives met as an entrepreneur, while at the same
time not hurting humanity at the same time.
Speaker 2: Right, monopolizing resources what a crazy thought. Yeah, you know,
I yeah, monopolizing water or oil.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: One thing I want to mention that Tesla was given
the technology. Yeah, but they always do steel technology. Notice
how with Tesla they said that his technology was stolen,
So it's almost like, you know, with their guys, they'll
do this weird inversion where they're like, no, they he
actually had his stuff stolen because.
Speaker 4: Everybody, Yeah, everyone likes the underdog. Interesting, Yeah, that's right.
And it's like they've created such a mythos around the
guy that again, it's more like a religion, it is.
It's become more religious for people now. And there's Tesla
two point zero of Elon Musk, who's the same.
Speaker 2: Stuff eugenics exactly. Now that you've explained Tesla better, I
didn't know all that about him, which I should have
assumed that there was some of these aspects. But hearing this,
I'm not surprised at all. And when you look at Elon,
it makes so much more sense why he would give
that homage to Tesla, because he is in that ideology entrenched.
So how does this connect with the Varian Brothers and
then into Silicon Valley. Uh, the theosophical We'll get back
to the theosophical connection there, Okay.
Speaker 4: So the Valerian brothers themselves are theospus. They believe self
consciously that they are manifesting in the material domain the
conditions around which the new race will be able to evolve.
As Blabot called for this, I think it was the
sixth roup race she said was gonna come out of
the fifth. I think we're at the end point of
the fifth, right, and now we're going to go into
the sixth. So they were sort of the first Yeah,
it's like they created tech firm. I haven't looked at
this stuff in a while, so we'll circle back to
this is in my book.
Speaker 2: But theosophy entered Silicon Valley through the Valerian brothers.
Speaker 1: And then how did that evolve?
Speaker 4: It started later on by even before World War two
even began, you had already Stanford, the Stanford University was
playing a big role in providing cover to bankroll a
lot of this research. The military was contracting this institution
for even before World War two began, but especially World
War two became a big part where this thing got
embedded within the military industrial sector.
Speaker 2: There's books back there I if I could, Yeah, yeah,
whenever you flow with the're straight.
Speaker 4: Because it's so important that I don't want to overly generalize.
But let's let's overly generalize for the moment and uh
and just keep it I guess broad enough, because well, we.
Speaker 2: Have Jack Parsons too. Of course, Jack Parsons connection with
silicon valleys is a pretty bad point clear as well, right,
I mean when you look at Jack Parsons seems to
clear a call to this Crowley follower. So there's a
little bit of that also, right, that adds into Silicon Valley.
Speaker 4: There's there that there's the ot because look, Crowley is
also fighting for the title of the World Teacher against
Judu Christian Morty. He's like, and that's where you know,
in the twenties, Christian Morty hasn't yet broken away from
what he's supposed to be the Matreya. You know this
this poor kid who's been like, you know, groomed by
the pedophile leadbeater for a while, and he hasn't broken
free yet. But he's he's he's still got a big
cult following. He's the heralded world Teacher. And this is
I think he only breaks away in nineteen twenty eight,
But in nineteen twenty five Crowley is like, no, it's me.
I'm the world Teacher. And he has a whole network of.
Speaker 2: His He was abused, He was abused as a kid.
Speaker 4: Crowley Crowley was probably abused. Yeah, I mean his dad.
After his dad died, I think his uncle who played
a big role. Like he's born into the Plymouth Brethren,
the Derby Exclusive, the exclusive Plymouth Brethren. It's the most
radical sect of the Plymouth Brethren that that exists, that
Darby created. The founder of rapture theology was Darby pre
millennialist dispensationalism. That's Derby. He created the exclusive Brethren cl
that Crowley was born into. And Crowley even said in
his confessions that he always remained loyal to the worldview
of Darby. He just said, I took the devil side,
but as far as like the entire reading of.
Speaker 1: Them, so he believes.
Speaker 2: Wow, he believes in evangelical ideologies, but takes the devil's side. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like how Darby reads the Book of Revelation is
how Crowley also reads it. He's just like, we have
to accelerate it towards where Darby's like, we have to
accelerate it so that the Messiah comes back, which I
don't think. I think Darby was probably always a Satanist
in his true heart. Crowley's just more open about the
fact that, no, we have to accelerate it, you know,
so that we can get the devil to come back.
And so he just creates his left hand path choice
early on. But I think his uncle who plays a
big role in raising him, getting him his in with
Cambridge University, is probably molesting him. I'd say he's got
all of this psych profile even when he's you know,
twelve eleven, twelve years old, murdering cats. You know somebody
who's highly abused.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, okay, I didn't know that about him, but
I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 1: And then you.
Speaker 4: Know he's already like a teacher. He's being brought in
by Lord Gascoyne Cecil, who's like lead, a leading figure.
He's a former Prime Minister of England who sees his
talent and then introduces him to the Hermetic Order of
the Golden Don, but also brings him into what appears
to be the Primro Society not appears to be this guy.
Richard Spence, the author of Secret Agents sixty sixty six,
did a great exposition on this part of the story
where there's the Primro Society as a as a Stuart
restorationist movement, those who believe that the Stuart blood line
should be brought back the jack They're called the the Jacobites,
So it's a Jacobite secret society that is calling for
the restoration of this of the Stuart blood line, and
so he's brought into that. It's a secret society. He's
brought into espionage circles at the same time as he's
made a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Don.
But the Hermitic Order gold Don is overlapping with the
esoteric section of theosophy from the very beginning, from the
isis Her Lodge that is set up in eighteen eighty seven.
All of the founding members are all are all working
with Bolovotski's esoteric section, and they're all followers of bull Religton.
They're all followers of Buller Lytton's Rose Crucian Society in
Anglia that was set up in eighteen sixty seven that
has penetrations into into the United States. That people like
Colonel Alcott, who's co founding, who becomes a co founding
member of the Ospice in eighteen seventy five, he's directly
a part of this thing, and he's part of the
three men he selected, of all people to be selected
to be the sort of Warren Commission leader of eighteen
sixty five over to oversee the lone gunman theory of
the murderer of Lincoln.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so Lincoln's Warren Commission.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Lincoln's Warren com Mission of eighteen six five.
So and he's like, of course, so lone gunman. He's
kind of like doing the Allen Dulls thing. No, nothing
else to see here, and then he's brought in at
the same time to the Rose Krushan Opera. He's set
up to meet with Blobotsky in eighteen seventy five. They
set this thing up, but they're all talking about sended
masters guiding us got in human evolution towards this this
new super being thing that's going to decide who gets erased,
who's not allowed to evolve or who's not not fit
to evolve, and who will be And basically, if you're
part of their inner club, you get to be part
of their Like Madonna said in her creepy you know
Grammy or whatever Emmy performance you get to, you get
to survive in otherwise you don't.
Speaker 2: If I may say Madonna is a Kabbalist, and which
proven by the way in Epstein Files, I mean they
literally talked about it in the Epstein Files about uh,
I forgot Betty Singer, whoever the Margaret Singer, whoever the
lady is, that's like the the gatekeeper for Hollywood. She
talked about Madonna and how she didn't like her, but
now that she's like a good goy on that studies
the Kabbala, she has taken a little liking to her.
But yeah, but to your point about Alice Bailey or
about that, Alice Bailey says in her externalization of the
hierarchy that because we have a everlasting part of ourselves
right and reincarnated soul that goes on forever, you know,
she says. You may say it's unfair that a lot
of people are going to die. She says, many are called,
few are chosen, many will be called, but the second
initiation is only for certain people, like you're saying, And
she says, may I remind you that this is not
your soul's one life and that you're gonna ascend throughout
your death. So when we kill you, you're gonna ascend.
Your soul will ascend either way, so you should actually
thank us for killing you. So the way that they
look at this is completely crazy. So I just want
to add that to what you were saying there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's really, it's so disgusting and like, yeah,
all from that standpoint, all abuse that happens to children
is actually a gift because you're giving them the necessary
lessons that their previous lives demanded that they learn now
as they're being you know, abused in Epstein Island or whatever,
that everything's happening to the continent of Africa. All the
children have to die, for fifteen thousand children die every
day of starvation in Africa to this very day. All
of that is just a beautiful gift ultimately for their
soul to learn lessons because they must have been bad
in previous lifetimes and now they're just learning the lessons
theyn't need as they reincarnate in you know, a thousand
years or something, and they'll be better people for it.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Hey, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna abuse
you or kill you.
Speaker 1: But it's your fault.
Speaker 2: So whatever you did in your past life that I'm
doing this to you for, you know what I mean.
That's a that's a wild way to gaslight somebody into
Stockholm syndrome. So great correlation into I think we did
discover that correlation of how it did get into Silicon Valley.
I mean you've got, of course this mixture of like
Aleis J. Crawley comes from theosophy Golden Dawn and mixes
with Parsons, scientology, the intelligence community, and of course the
Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1: So let's put a button on it. What else?
Speaker 2: How else did it kind of infiltrate into Silicon Valley
as it kind of evolves to today? How do you
do you see thesophical ideologies permeating narratives out of Silicon Valley?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that the way I look at is
like the cultural driving force of Silicon Valley really became
it really became Eslin. So es Eslin by the early
sixties became the the cultural sort of nerve center of
these mythraic high priests that were embedded within through the
teachings of all this Huxley, you know, Michael Murphy and
Pat Price. Also Pat Price was Michael Murphy was also
in a I think we talked about this last time,
right an Orobindo Ashram for several years, being trained by
the mother Mi Fase who's a Kali high priestess, and
people like Jeffrey Krippl, who's today the official biographer of
eslin Uh talks about how he himself is also an
initiate into Kali colie worship and Kali initiatory practices. The
Kali you know, the the crazy image that we find
of the khalid al Uga Cali. Yeah, the separate heads.
Speaker 2: And the If I may say, while you're on this,
the CEO of Vanthropic just went on Joe Rogan and
talked about the old Hindu gods having nukes and essentially
the Kali Yuga for about an hour until he went
into talking about how Ai is going to take over
for the next two hours, so he talks about exactly
what you're saying. You see this ideology in Silicon Valley
with the CEO of Perplexity, right, So here we go.
Speaker 1: It is there.
Speaker 4: It is not in the in the again the disastrous
train wreck that is modern quantum mechanics, which is not
a science, it's it's an alchemicals. It's an alchemical ritual
masquerading as science that grew out of the nineteen twenty
eight Solve Conference on Science, where all of the people
who discovered made real discoveries like Einstein and mox Plank
and Madame Curie and all the Louis de bro Glee,
they were all iced out. They were the ones who
made the discoveries of the quantum realm. They were all
iced out because they believed in causality. They had a
method of thinking that we're not allowed to that's forbidden.
And then only the mathematical probability theorists around the Copenhagen
School of Neil's Moore were permitted to be the ones
to control the models of acceptable scientific methodology that were
then giving Rockefeller funded grants and things like that that
were then turned into things like CERN. Right, So they
were building decades of energy intensity, very expensive machinery around
tokemax and particle accelerators modeled on a an incompetent notion
of what is the atom? What is science? Based upon
very kinetic ideas of of making things, making particles like
hit each other so that you could like just measure
the uh, the the trajectory of the of the of
the shrapnel pretty much to come up with new theories
like Higgs bosons and and subparticles. All of the ship
is are ill theoretical too, yeah, and the and the
and they have the big Kali cli Uh statute that
share in their real heart of hearts, and Shiva and
Cali have strange overlaps as.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the same, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the shocky version is just the male female
shocky sheba version of the same sort of unification of opposites,
of sexualized opposites of genders. But and there's more to it.
I know people who are into this stuff were probably
by what we're saying. What I just how I just
bastardized it.
Speaker 1: But no, man, I mean I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's must have a vasterization. You can
split hairs and go into semantics and say how they're
different for this or that, but at the end of
the day, they are very similar anti deities.
Speaker 4: And they think so in I think the inner sanctum
not Most of the scientists probably have no clue. They're
just like materialists, standard model, brainwashed human automatons working on
uncern But in the inner sanctum, like the the Oppenheimer
level crowd that's actually organizing this thing, they are obsessed
with opening up a portal, uh two channel arcons to
bring in the archons, to bring in whatever the demons
are to invoke like this.
Speaker 1: Uh So that's what the new.
Speaker 4: Horizon, right, they want to they want the Event Horizon
of Sam Harris died died this morning, by the way,
what yeah Sam Harris?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no way, they see the AI's CEO.
Speaker 4: No Sam Harrison, Oh no Sam? Do I say Sam Harris,
not the event No, the the actor who played Jurassic
Park and Event Horizon. Sam okay, not Harris. What's the
name Sam? Uh Blonde Jurassic Park?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I forgot his name, but yeah, he's the O
G Jurassic Park guy.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is uh Sam Neil.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sam Neil? Okay, r P Sam Neil Man, r
P Sam Neil. But we won't even mention Lindsay Graham's
name on here. I got nothing to say about it. Yeah,
I've never been happy bout anybody dying, but I did
get a little smile on my face for that one.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: A little bit fuller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, r I P r P. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, So all that to say, they that's what
they think, they think that they're invoking. They're they're participating
in either the the end of the Collieu Guy age.
Now to transition now to this cataclysm that's necessary for
the new cycle to begin after everything, because in the
colleague you got sort of philosophy everything is decay and
everything is in tropic everything of that is. It's very
much in alignment with the traditional school that presumes that
all modernism, all all scientific improvement is actually decay. Is
all this worse and bring us to this maximum singularity.
Speaker 1: I'll see the connection there. Now, why Bandon and all them?
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense, and that's why they
just keep hammering on this like Hindu Cali Yuga concept.
But also it's coming from guys who are trying to
open portals and connect with these uh said, archives and
things like that. So it's a very clear correlation with
the narrative. Man, I think that we did cover a
lot of the connections here, I mean, is and what
else you got? I think I could see the picture
hopefully everybody else can.
Speaker 4: I think it's there, hopefully. When people think about what
stargate means, they ask colors how they're thinking about it,
because what is the stargate exactly?
Speaker 1: You know? What?
Speaker 4: What? What gate is being opened in the minds of
those creating the name for the stargate? Might you know, uh,
mon like, because I mean, the whole Stargate thing was
overseen by followers, by followers of a guy who was
doing a Babylon ritual with Jack Parsons in nineteen forty
six to try to invoke the Antichrist, like that guy
who created the entire scientology movement was doing Babylon working rituals.
I think he was playing the role of the scrier,
the Ed Kelly to the John de of Jack Parsons,
doing sex magic and probably other things to invoke the Edgichrist.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: Three months after you have Trump born right on a
blood moon eclipse, which is weird. And nine months later,
nine months later, you had Michael Aquino born, which is
odd too. So it's like you got two of these
guys who are like chaos magician, mind war guys that
are helping accelerate this coming of the Mantrea whatever you
want to call it, right, this world teacher that's going
to come and initiate the world into this new one
world religion government whatever. And yeah, isn't it interesting They're
both connected in a weird way, both with three and
nine to this Babylon workings.
Speaker 4: That's uncomfortable, Yeah, that's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not to make it's it's like, what
the fuck is for me?
Speaker 4: It's up there with like Trump offering his uh you know,
the Devil's Advocate movie with al Pacino and uh uh
uh what's his name?
Speaker 2: The Christian Bale No no, no, no, yeah, yeah, where
he's the lawyer.
Speaker 1: He's the lawyer, right, he's the lawyer.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I thought that was Christian Baie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cantu literally the son of the devil of of
al Pacino is the devil. He's the son of who's
being recruited to be a part of a new Babylon
working where he's expected to have sex with his sister
to anti christ that again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been too long. That's exactly it.
Speaker 4: The theme that takes place. There's a there's literally a
Trump character who's a billionaire real estate magnate of New
York who does this brutal murder on a kid and
two women, and he has to be defended. He clearly
did it, Yeah, but he has to be defended by
Canna Reeves, who's selling his soul and the the location
where this is being filmed is Trump's gilded apartment in
on Fifth Avenue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a beautiful loft like I remember this, yeah,
you know, because they were like a huge wall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this Greco Roman Apollodian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, holy shit.
Speaker 2: And you know his grandma and his dad's middle name
was christ Yes, come on, like you can't. I mean
there's so much there back to the future with the
Biff guy. I mean, there's so much there with Tesla
and then the JPL get JPL where Jack Parsons work
getting Tesla's equipment from Trump's uncle. It's like, how many
connections can you have here? You know, don't even talk
about the airship from the eighteen hundreds. Don't even talk
about you know, all these different other connections that predate
him even being born that seemed to talk about it.
Speaker 4: The airship thing just have been a blimp or something.
Speaker 1: What had Trump on it?
Speaker 2: You know where it said forty seven on the same
it's artistic entry.
Speaker 4: There's an artistic painting of the of the airship of
an airship which is like a limp or like, yeah,
it's like it's a it's an airsh but yeah, it's
a it's a Renaissance style airship. Let me pull it up, okay,
and it says Trump forty seven on it. Oh yeah, dude,
that's not AI. That's like legit.
Speaker 1: No, like as far as I know, it's legit. Me.
Speaker 2: It's even got like this artist's name and everything.
Speaker 1: I forgot his name.
Speaker 4: I will, I will want to look into that. Oh yeah,
because then you got the weird.
Speaker 2: Think you're right, because there's a lot of narrative serving
you good, good good instinct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, might I always go to But I mean, shit's crazy, man,
Like absolutely, I'm compared to maybe.
Speaker 2: So you have arrow Trump ero Trump, Yeah, and then
you have on this one Trump and there was another
one that had forty seven.
Speaker 1: There's forty five here, what are these things?
Speaker 2: And he's forty fifth and forty seventh president, so you've
got forty five. So these are like older renditions of airships.
Let me see if I can find better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, who did that? What is this guy's name? Dude?
Somebody in the chat might know this guy's name. He's
got like a French name.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Daily Here we go, We'll go
view this page the article about it Trump's airship appearing
in one hundred year old sketchbook. Oh wait, I gotta
share this screen hold on. Oh yeah, yeah, it's I
haven't looked too deep into it, but I do as
far as I've seen this as like a legit artist
who legitimately made this one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Charles Dela Shoo that was his name.
Speaker 2: Charles delas Show, a Prussian immigrant who came to the
US in eighteen fifty died in nineteen twenty three, mysteriously
contained the word Trump and even featured forty seven, the
number of the president, and then forty five was in
there too.
Speaker 1: I showed you that they.
Speaker 2: Go instantly into INGERSO Lockwoods book about Baron Trump. They
don't even really delve into this painter. So you might
have something there with that instinctual question you asked, because
let's look up this Charles Del's shaw. I mean, I
wonder if they'd just stuck it on him and said,
you know.
Speaker 4: I wonder, Yeah, you gotta. It's always it's always got
to be very careful when we're living in the magic trick.
Like the magic tricks, all those who control the levers
of mainstream media and have for quite some time, so
it's it is they're participating in the magic trick. So,
but not to discard things that sound crazy just because
they sound crazy, because they might actually be.
Speaker 1: Here we go. You know what, dude, I think you're on.
Speaker 2: Just look at this little is known about Charles Delshao's life.
I want to know what Delshao means. What does that
word mean? Because I you know, a lot of times though,
especially with people that are huh might be a joke, right,
because especially with people's names that are faked or put
in the stories like this, they'll use the name where
if you look into it, you're like, oh, the name
means this, and it's like.
Speaker 1: Perfectly aligned or whatever.
Speaker 2: All right, primary sources are scarce, it says, so, yeah,
I don't know, man, interesting all right.
Speaker 4: Well, not to be ignored. I'm gonna definitely look into
this today.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you give me.
Speaker 4: Something more to add to my my spooky book.
Speaker 2: Hit me up a byt whatever you find there and
let everyone know where they can find you find your books.
Speaker 1: Great wealth of information you have.
Speaker 2: I need to get some signed copies of books from you, bro,
because I really do think you're one of the best.
And not to glady, but you're one of the probably
top thinkers I've ever seen like in our current age talking.
And I know, man, because I hear a lot of
people act like they know some shit and talk a
lot like bigger you know, big platforms, the whole deal
wealth of knowledge right here for sure.
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: No, thanks man, No, this is fun, dude, And just
like having good conversation with somebody who knows their shit
is just such a pleasure. It's such an enjoyable love
start of my day. And I'm looking forward to here
to reading your book. I guess you're gonna put it
out installments, so send them my way as well. I'd
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and play the more generally as much as you'd like.
It's a absolutely a big passion for me look forward to.
So yeah, thank you. And for anybody who wants to
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what this is, what to look for. It's Edgar Posts
Final Mystery Is Volume three and other Tales of Raciosination
There with Alistair Crowley looking at you creepily over Sybyl's Cave,
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Speaker 7: And the last thing I'll just say too is there's
a book called that I did a few years back
called Science and Shackles, Restoring Causality in a World of Chaos.
So for people who like this discussion around the how
Darwin was concocted, Yeah, Darwin, actually have a chapter on Darwin,
but how Isaac Newton was an artificial creation, how science
really evolved in a healthy way and that was co
opted and destroyed by these royal society freaks and neo platonists.
Speaker 4: This book goes through a lot of that story there.
So yeah, all those books are on Canadian Patriot dot org.
That's my main website. But it's not just Canadian. They
don't let the name fool you. All of our documentaries
are on there too. My wife's books and her work
is also easy to find on that website. And lastly,
I have my substack, so I put up things every
day on substack. Can check that Eric dot substack dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be following that up.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, or maybe I did from last time,
but I totally forgot.
Speaker 1: I'll be following that for sure.
Speaker 2: I just kind of launched a little substack too, just
for a little bit, just a little practice in writing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, awesome, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And I'll be actually live for anybody that's still here,
any late joiners that are like, oh man, you guys
are done already. I'll be live in fifteen minutes. We'll
be getting into anthropics AI God called, if anybody wants
to check that out. We're going to be deep diving
into Terrence McKenna excellent institute.
Speaker 1: Now it all kind of connects.
Speaker 2: It's really a continuation of this connection conversation and now
it all connects into the Silicon Valley. So the Theosophical
Technocracy continued in about twenty minutes. Thank you very much,
Matt all right, well, hell yeah, dude, I look forward
to it. Thank you, guys, Bite seal it at