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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to six to g Agenda.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Andrew here again to talk about what

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they won't And today we got a special guest, Matt Ritt.

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Speaker 1: He's back to talk with us about.

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Speaker 2: The Theosophical Technocracy a little bit more on the Essallent Institute.

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Last time we kind of edged around the es good

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amount as we talked about our traditionalist movement episode information,

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all that stuff that he brought. It was super packed

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and maybe we can unpack some more today.

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Speaker 1: And welcome back Matt.

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Speaker 3: How you doing today, Andrew, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this awesome me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So last time, you know, we talked a lot

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about big Sir Esslin X men being kind of connected

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to that. I thought that was really interesting, And since then,

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I've kind of been noticing and researching more into like

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Esslin and the modern kind of influencer tech bro scene

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and kind of the connections with that, and I've noticed

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the Theosophical technocracy kind of agenda that seems to be

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going on, and I wanted to kind of delve into

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more of the escellent stuff. You seem to be the

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guy with a lot of good information on that, so

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I'm excited to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, thanks man. I mean, my wife has also

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helped me a lot in piecing together a lot of

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the story, and we wrote a book together actually called

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The Revenge of the Mystery Cults, and the first volume

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of it, it's a trilogy, and the first volume of it,

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it's called The Mystery Babylon and the Age of Aquarius.

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And I've got a copy of that actually here, just

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so your followers can see the cover. It's got this

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fun black sun dripping lava bus onto a bunch of

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flipped out baby boomers tripping out at Woodstock and people

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are at first, we're a little bit confused when you

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go through it. I mean, I think we make the

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connection pretty clearly. As far as the uber mentioned it

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chain trans like the the uber mentioned concept as it

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was rooted in both the schools of Nietzsche and Wagner

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of the overmentioned will to Power crowd that was emerging

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out of the.

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Speaker 2: The the pagan folk scene of Europe, especially Germany, but

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also of England. And the uber mention is the superman

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race that really goes back to the root race concept

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that is rooted in theosophy, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, that yeah, that those who are going to be

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qualified to set the seed the stage for the new

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root race. So that are those aryan teutonic brood who

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have attained the maximum stage of evolution possible within the

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current fourth race cycle, out of which you know you

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have sort of seven subdivisions. As Blebotski created this very

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strange pseudo Darwinian cosmology that explains our evolution. But so

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she'd her theosophical network provided this solution to the.

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Speaker 1: So let's do it this way.

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Speaker 4: Let's actually take the time to quickly just paid a

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picture of the overmentioned idea that's at the heart of transhumanism.

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That that is all over Essalyn later on. So this concept,

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if you look at the way the stage was set

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in the early nineteenth century, you had them on one hand,

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radical Darwinism that was proposed by the City of London,

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by the leading fake science. I'll call them fake science

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because I don't think they were real scientists. The handlers

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of Charles Darwin, like Thomas Huxley, the grandfather of Aldus

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Huxley and Julian Huckley. He was the Darwin's bulldog and

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he was the creator of what's known as the X Club.

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The X Club was a sort of think tank that

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consolidated that had the mandate to try to co opt

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all known science that had progressed and perfected itself by

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means of a type of creative thinking that is not

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supposed to be permitted for humanity. If we're going to

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be controlled monkeys in a zoo, we can't have access

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to this part of ourselves that allows us to make

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Eureka like discoveries into the invisible laws of creation and

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transpose those back into new technologies that allow us to

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break free of the limits, change the rules of the game,

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and then overcome limits to growth that is not supposed

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that We're supposed to be adaptive to, limits that are

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created in control, rolled by a high oligarchical master class

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that is supposed to be our destiny, not doing real science.

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So what this group coming out of the British Royal Society,

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which is itself a Rosicrucian creation. The Royal Society was

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known from its start as the Invisible College. That is

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what Thomas Huxley was brought into. He was assigned to

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create this EX Club idea that brought together leading imperial

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scientists from chemistry and physics and even anthropology. Matthew Arnold

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was a literature a literary figure from the science of

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mind who was brought into this thing. So is Herbert Spencer,

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the founder of social Darwinism. So is Francis golf and

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the founder of eugenics. They're all members of this thing.

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And the idea was to force this, this Darwinian idea

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of gradualism onto every branch of science, so that the

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idea of the discontinuous quantum like leak, that leap that

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is required for a discovery to happen in any field,

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or even evidence of those discontinuous changes that are not

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chaotic but they are also not gradual, that you find

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in the evidence of the growth of fossil records, where

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there's no gradual variation, there's only discontinuous changing systems. The

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whole systems that change, but they changed in an organized way.

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new system of a higher ordering appearance. That implies something

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about the organization of God, of the universe, of purpose,

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purposefulness that might even exist outside of the human subjective experience.

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Which changes the whole idea of what the subjective objective

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divide even means. So all of this stuff was supposed

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to be scrub like, scrubbed completely, and so Darwin was

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the big thing.

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Speaker 1: And so Darwin's the guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so just to pause on this, Darwin's the guy

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of course that came up with Survival of the fittest, right,

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this idea that you have this superior race essentially within

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all the animal kingdoms, you know, whatever ecology you want.

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Speaker 1: To sit there and magnify.

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Speaker 2: And then as you progress, of course, you have eugenicists

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all this Thomas Huxley, I guess all this wasn't quite

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the eugenesis as much as his brother and his father,

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but all of them are kind of think tanker guys.

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That seem to be the first iteration of what we

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see Epstein bringing together with all of his scientists getting

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together to kind of continue what seems to be what

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they started back then. And what came out of it

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is this idea of I guess, the stagnancy we see

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with the technological progress. We have here to kind of

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add to what you're saying, which is this idea of

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linear progression. And you don't have this exponential growth, which

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would then of course you wouldn't have utopia, right, you

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wouldn't have any kind of great society.

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Speaker 1: Now they seem to be.

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Speaker 2: Kind of reverting a little bit and offering this idea

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of an exponential growth from AI and almost to give

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it these godlike attributes because it's going against this linear

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progression that they've sold us for one hundred years.

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Speaker 1: Am I kind of onto something there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think what they're doing right now like they

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will allow a certain type of scientific and technological progress

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if it is wrapped in sufficient thickness of mysticism that

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is irrational. So if you can create a mythology around

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why is the science happening and say, for example, we've

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reversed engineered it out of alien advanced aircraft that crashed,

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or it was communicated to us on LSD trips by

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extra extra dimensional beings that gave us science, or we

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are being used by disembodied spirit demon entities or the

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Antichrist that have been used for multiple, multiple generations as

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skin suits for the subconscious forces that are the Antichrist itself,

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that is all of us, that is the collective unconscious

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that has been using us against our even will to

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create science and grow science so that a platform could

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finally be brought into being, apparently by us, but not

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really actually, because we're all possessed. We're all possessed by

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these disincarnate forces that, now that they have the modern

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can finally manifest itself physically, as Peter Thiel would want

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us to believe.

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Speaker 2: And they make that up to kind of explain the

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idea of this anything outside of the logic of linear progression.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's outside that.

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Speaker 2: Then they have to prove their logic still, okay and

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correct by going, there's some other worldly thing going on

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that we don't quite understand, and that's why we get this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you don't get it.

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Speaker 2: We don't get it, and we're all, you know, just

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confused here and it's chaos magic.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, exactly, genius. That's sort of the the formula

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of how Thomas Huxley wired the sale of Darwin to

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the people, because the idea was, okay, that's what's gonna

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explain everything is Darwinian gradualism that's rooted in, like you said,

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a struggle of the fittest to survive as it destroys

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the weakest breeds, and that would justify, on the one hand,

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the system of human control of empire. That the British

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the most lawful natural thing, because Darwin and look, you

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know what we're doing in India to create controlled famines.

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It's distasteful, but it's necessary because it's science. And if

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it wasn't true, if if this wasn't the most natural

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way of doing things and we were wrong, then the

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Indians would be the ones running the world empire, depopulating

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Speaker 4: But it's not the case. So we must have proven

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genetically through what we're doing to Africa, the idiots, to

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the Irish, that we're the most lawful way of organizing society.

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So you know, look read your Darwin and then you

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know from there there's just the corollarias of the natural

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extension of that to human self organization more directly through

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Herbert Spencer and Francis Galton, you know who just said, Okay,

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well let's let's not beat around the bush. This is

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directly like Darwin's like, oh, but that's just two different

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different topics, and these guys are like, no, they're not

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two different topics. It's the same topic. Let's just extend

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your logic now to human social organization, and then we

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could debate whether we want to centralized command and control

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called eugenics of Galton, or do we want to just

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like have a free market liberal system where the week

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are weeded off by the strong in this social Darwinian

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sort of more libertarian friendly survival of the fittest thing.

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a fake debate.

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Speaker 2: And that's when the Flexner Report came out in reference

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: It's just funny because it's like I would imagine that

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the medical industry might have changed a little bit whenever

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Speaker 4: Thanks at the allopathic medicine, right.

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Speaker 1: And that's nineteen seventeen.

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Speaker 2: It is about nineteen thirteen, nineteen seventeen, And so I

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didn't know where that fits into this timeline because you

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see that, you know, they always do this where they'll

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come out with a theory, a thing, a science name,

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something you know, like trying to think of a modern

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version of this, but they'll come out with something where

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it's like, look, it's just isolated to this, but you

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could see the writing on the wall if you're smart

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and you're like no, that could be kind of brought

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out to everybody and it does get done, you know later.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just curious if maybe you know, that's a

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Speaker 4: And the Rockefeller Foundation is going to play a big

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role in a lot of this stuff, especially on the

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tyel the Chaldean aspect of things, because you okay, so

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here's it's all about dichotomies, right, controlled dichotomy. So here's

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what I want to say. So and this this will

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get into the whole reform in the medical system as well,

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and science and the the the funding, control and flow

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of science more generally into the disaster of the twentieth century. Yeah,

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that'll flow. So he creates this idea saying, okay, you

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have a choice. You have a choice of either being

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a radical Christian funding and he would usually get the

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most radical ignorant Anglican priest or whatever to go and

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to defend his own ideas, so it required Huxley, who

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was more like sardonic and witty, but he didn't even

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that are that are an embarrassment today for those who

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to explaining explaining evolution. He admitted in his letters that

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he thought that Darwin's theory was incompetent, but he fought

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as the only option available. And the way he would

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create these high publicity events kind of like boxing matches

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for nerds, I guess, and have like a lot of

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media cover it. And it would have like an ignorant

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priest on the one hand, who could only like argue

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from the standpoint of the literal interpretation of the Bible

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of six thousand years everything. Nothing existed before that, and

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we lived with dinosaur bones are there to challenge us.

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just destroy it. And so that created this idea that okay,

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you have to be one either a Christian fundy literalist,

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or you could be a Darwinian literalist and it be

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then a man of science. But there's nothing in between.

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were explaining like natural uh not natural uh. They were there.

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was grounded in real science, that was not rooted in

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just interpreting things from what the Bible says. But but

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but did acknowledge people like James Duy, Dana, Carl Ernst

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von Bayer, the Lamark School. There's a whole QVA. There's

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a whole network of scientists all over from the United

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States of Europe who were all looking at purposefulness, harmony, orientation, directionality,

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morality infused into their concept of like the flow of

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what makes uh evolution move. So there is a whole

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bunch of people who are doing who are bringing in

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conceptions of the sun, of of what was then known

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from from electromagnetic aspects of creation. Who we're all looking

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at these different different components of of what was what

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we need to hold into mind to explain why there

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is is this thing of living matter that emerges and

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moves and a lot of it disappears goes extinct. But

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why what about these cataclysms that seem to happen right

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that punctuate these moments of change. So anyway, all of

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that was iced out. Now the theosophis came in. Blovatski

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came in with her fake resolution, saying, Okay, there's a

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crisis in faith. People are going nihilistic. They're having an

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issue right now because now they don't have people who

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are little, who don't want to give up their brain completely,

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don't feel like they can be Christian anymore. So we're

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going to supply that spiritual need. And then she basically

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took a lot of the core ideas of Darwin, of

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the survival of the fittest. She took that she allowed

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at it, but she said, I am I am the

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true opposition. It's not the Christians are incompetent. I am

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the true embodiment of the solution concept, which now involved

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in physics. Yeah, infusing her own nasty metaphysics anyway, of

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like the assumption that's totally unprovable, and in saying of

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like these pre uh, you know, Hyperborean, Lemurian, Atlantean root

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races before us that are all seated by these causing

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beings from Venus, which is basically the Lucifer morning Star,

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that is Venus, that's that's Lucifer, and that these Venusian

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four Venusian beings were overseeing this evolutionary flow, and that

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would they would select from among the enlightened uh you know, Buddhas,

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the Jesuses, they would they would either incarnate themselves, was

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one of her positions into the form of these these

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enlightened beings, these Matreyas, and who would then become the

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ascended masters or she changed her view at a certain

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point that these ascended masters just to rose and would

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reincarnate themselves. So she went through a period where she

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was either into the avatar thinking or into the reincarnation thinking.

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But it was all pretty much the same ship that

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you have these ascended masters, a small pantheon of which

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you know, you had Master Maria Kuum like she made

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a bunch of people.

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Speaker 2: Up who Alice Bailey came out and she continued that

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work with the exisation of the hierarchy and she explains

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how a planetary hierarchy is going to be merging. Coming

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back here, that there was a terror ripped in the veil.

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We could call it, which is this astral realm, And

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they said there was around World War One, because of

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all the emotional trauma during the World Wars, that there

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was this portal you could say, opened up, and this

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planetary hierarchy is coming. And I think it's just like

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the archons, the demir you know, this kind of concept

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of the same astrological pantheon that you know, we look

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at everywhere that permeates.

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Speaker 1: All different religions and mystery cults and so.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting because if you look like this new

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age concept comes from that, this whole age of Aquarius,

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this merging seems to be what they're trying to manifest

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their technology, which is why again this is entitled theosophical technocracy,

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because I do believe that it is connected right in

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line with the externalization of the hierarchy. Uh yeah, yeah,

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very interesting. I mean it gets ran into blue beem.

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What is bluebeam? That's what it is, the externalization of

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the hierarchy. If it was real, I don't think it'll

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literally happen like that, But I think that guy may

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have gotten that idea from reading Alice Bailey's work.

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think so. I mean Alice Bailey

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is is sort of a poor counterfeit, but just sort

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of carrying on the because all of these guys, as

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soon as they feel like they've achieved their nosis, they're

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now God and now whatever they imagine is reality, right,

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and they're thus authorized to create their own myths that

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they add on too. And this is where you get

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a lot of these these egos emerge out of the

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theosophical school that all have the idea that their God,

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and then they have these disputes about what who May

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is telling you know, leadbeaters say, no, he's telling me this,

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and then yeah, I'm receiving these channel messages from from

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these stated masters. No you're wrong, and then they'll create

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these spinoff groups and then you'll have you know, William

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that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Get touched on enough is how much fuckery was proven

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to be going on with these guys, where they're like, dude,

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we've gotten them in a room and they couldn't re

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replicate what they were doing, you know, but they've got

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all these writings that people reference and talk about, but

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they always leave out the fact that these guys were

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sham artists.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, magic tricks, Yeah, like Raboski is is materializing she's

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using magic tricks that were proven to be magic tricks.

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A couple of people who were like working for her

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were disgusted by her trap doors and all these secret

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passages and her retire how like mansion in Adyar, India

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was was wired to be a magic trick house so

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that she could like manifest these fake letters from the

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assented masters to tell her her servants to serve for

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breakfast faster.

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Speaker 1: She had the first fun house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the first fun house, yeah. And they exposed this

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A couple of her what do they call the uh

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the kum the kulum Emma and her husband Kulam, who

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I think were the grandchildren of the scientists actually, who

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might have infiltrated her compound acting like they were supporters

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in order to get the dirt that everyone knew who

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had a brain was a very dangerous new syncratic religion

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being like created artificially to overthrow all of the all

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of society. And they brought this to the surface and

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it was a big embarrassment in the eighteen eighties, and

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and Blovotsky even like lost her position as the head

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of the Theosophist for that period because of the massive embarrassment.

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Speaker 2: While we're on this, I just, you know, I don't

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think it'll take us too far off. I just want

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to say that this shows that this idea of like

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them incarnating God into Ai, or this idea of them

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like I don't know, merging with some externalization of a

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hierarchy is just bullshit. And what it's really about is

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total control over people with the hierarchical structure, with you know,

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men divine men rights to rule whatever they believe. It's

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a theosophical thing in nature because it's got the root

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race aspect to it. But it's really just about technocratic

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police state, you know, where they run everybody in a

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pyramidal structure again like they did before, and all this

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other shit's just to sell you that idea, you know,

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the divinity, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I just wanted to put that, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that's what all these guys are eugenesis too. But

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I'll have to say, okay, so here's the thing. So

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let's just to go back. You have this false debate.

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She's resolving this false debate between materialism and spiritualism or

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the materialism and religion. He's like, She's like, no, it's

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gonna be this, it's gonna be Fioscy that resolves it,

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and it's gonna be Darwinian, but directed by spiritual assted

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masters that communicate and direct the flow of human beings

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to our next phase of evolution through these cycles, of

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which at the end of each each of these these

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root races the older obsolete species like for example, blacks

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and the the yellow people that she spoke Actually people

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are trying to defend her, but she spoke very, very

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racistly about how these were of a lower spiritual order

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and are thus not not spiritually fit to survive this

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new phase of evolution. So only the most advanced superior

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Atlantean beings or beings that were seeded from Atlantis, which

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is the teutonic Aryan racial type, they are the most

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spiritually advanced who are qualified to oversee that transition. What

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she even said is must happen in southern or in

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the southwest of the United States, which will involve some

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form of syncretization of East meeting West somehow.

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Speaker 1: WHOA, let's pause there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on in that region right

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now where they're trying to prove that there is this

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this old world Egypt was here. Now there's a i think,

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a different form of this that they're going to try

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to say where it's not old Egypt it's here, it's

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that Atlantis was here and that it, you know, was

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connected to Egypt through this one world structure of like

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you know, God King system, that kind of they're trying

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to recreate again with you know, this Ai structure.

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Speaker 1: But you've been.

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Speaker 2: Seeing that right, like in the Grand Canyon where they

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have certain areas that are labeled after like Egyptian places

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like Memphis, et cetera, like the King's Chamber. But then

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you go down there and you find higher glyphs, and

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apparently the Smithsonian, you know, covered up findings that a

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guy went there.

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Speaker 1: Do you know about this story, Yeah, the Vivini Ridge

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and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like the guy that you know went down there and

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he got caught and essentially he talked about all this

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stuff he found in the Grand Canyons that were Egyptian

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iconic free He found literal temples inside of caves in

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the Grand Canyon, and the Smithsonian.

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Speaker 1: Completely covered it up.

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Speaker 2: People have tried to go back there, and there's black

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helicopters that will come if you try to go in there.

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Speaker 1: And so there's this building.

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Speaker 2: You know, this history of like building lies into this

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theory that you're kind of pointing out right now, almost

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to prove what you just said, the southwest merging of

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East with west.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I'm quite convinced that the actual location of Atlantis.

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And I interviewed the author of the Atlantis Puzzle, which

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is a fantastic book, and I interviewed him a few

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months ago, and this book is wonderful. And this guy

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is a Greek scholar, and he just Plato's to Mais

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and he translated the whole thing in new because he

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was like all existent translations of Plato's Tomas. That is

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the only thing that we really have as an authentic

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document that talks about Blantis in a serious way, and

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that the whole myth is built upon it. They're all mistranslated.

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All of them were mistranslated by Benjamin Jowett, by all

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of these Oxford Cambridge controllers of ancient Greek thought. So

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the whole school of Greek translations is highly consolidated. In

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the same way that the school of of empiricists science

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was controlled by the Royal Society, the same thing was

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by the same society to the domain of the classics.

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So he just retranslated it more authentically than anybody's ever done,

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and then just followed exactly the locations the that that

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Plato documents within the Tomaos by, you know, the characters

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of Pythagorea and Tomyos, the last surviving Pythagoreine describing this

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this ancient civilization that so on had had had learned

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from the Egyptians. And so he just goes through it

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and I think proves the case better than anybody that

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I've ever seen that it's it's in West Africa, northwest Africa.

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There's a circular anyway.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's there?

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Speaker 2: You think it's the Richard structure. Yeah, wait, yeah, the structure.

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That's what that's called, right, That's called the rich Shard structure,

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and not Yeah, I'm familiar with that.

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Speaker 4: The water would have been very very high. Africa a

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green oasis at that time. The there's areas of desert

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that would have actually been plentiful full of water at

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that period. And he goes through the different locations from

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the Mediterranean where you would have had the entry point

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of the Pillars of Heracles that would.

474
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: Not be a guy's name. What's the guy's name? Is

475
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,480
this the guy that was like on Rogan?

476
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: Okay, he's so good.

477
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,279
Speaker 2: Do you know who I'm talking about? The guy that

478
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,279
went on Rogan and he's talking about the same area. Uh,

479
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:45,400
I can't remember his name.

480
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the guy Jack Kelly. Uh, puzzle, I'll

481
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,319
give you his Yeah.

482
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: So, I yeah, that should be a whole short of itself.

483
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,039
I haven't thought about it, so I haven't really quite

484
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,680
looked at it for a while. George Serentitious is the

485
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,839
Greek scholar that he was working with who did the translations.

486
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,839
Speaker 4: And it's just so well crafted anyway, and it also

487
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,640
ties into Homer too, which there's a there's a key

488
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,960
and I was I was saying to me, it's but

489
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,240
I meant to say credo the credo dialogue, and.

490
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,839
Speaker 2: I yeah, creteous or the ceous courteous.

491
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: The cretious dialogue is the actual ok.

492
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, creteous is the son or the you know, son

493
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,200
or brother or something like.

494
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: That, right of a.

495
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: I forget.

496
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a whole line because it's like nine

497
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,119
hundred years later and it's a it's a whole thing,

498
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,559
you know, And and another just not to get off

499
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:41,519
on this too much. But you know there's this concept

500
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:43,839
of it being like the noble lie where it was

501
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,160
never actually real, and it was this concept of just

502
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,720
too warring, too warring, uh, cities that were actually not

503
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,440
yeah the sea and yeah, like.

504
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: It was an analogy.

505
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: It was like Athens wasn't really ran by philosopher kings,

506
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880
but in the story it was, and they went to

507
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,119
or with the materialistic.

508
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,599
Speaker 1: God king style Atlantis, right.

509
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: And you know, so it's just kind of like this

510
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,039
weird thing where some people say it was all an

511
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,559
analogy that's been literalized over time and and now the

512
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,839
elites are using it to justify their rule, you know,

513
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:17,160
which is interesting. That's what.

514
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a control. Everything is controlled by myths, right,

515
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,680
So that's all history. And from the way I see

516
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,160
it is that you have two different categories of myths,

517
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,920
Like either those myths that are created from from at

518
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,319
least an honest heart that is intended that that that

519
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,559
make us better people in some way, that make us

520
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,759
more that through the myth, whether it's a sacred story

521
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,960
or whatever.

522
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: Noble lie, Yeah, that's a noble lie.

523
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that legitimately do make us more in tune with

524
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,640
God's creation, with natural law, that that help us become

525
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:50,960
more self aware of who we really are and thus

526
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,319
ironically more capable of scrutinizing the myths that we maybe

527
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,559
thought were true when we're younger, that we didn't realize, oh,

528
00:27:57,599 --> 00:27:59,480
that was a sacred myth. So the ones that basically

529
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
help you get out of the cave, those that immerse

530
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,240
you more into the cave.

531
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: And they've inverted that structure, they've inverted that system where

532
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
now they're selling us myths that actually degrade our thinking,

533
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,519
degrade our understanding of reality. And actually they're doing the

534
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,759
opposite of a noble lie. It's just a flat lie.

535
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,599
Speaker 4: That's good, man, it's a good that's a good, good exercise. Well,

536
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,480
going back to what you were saying about, Yeah, the

537
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400
the effort to try to make it appear as though

538
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,440
Atlantis is somehow located in or was located in the

539
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,000
United States coast of the West, the United States. There's

540
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,599
there's also issues of like there's been efforts to try

541
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,839
to make it appear as though Lemuria was just off

542
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,559
the coast of the Pacific Navy. Mount Shasta is a

543
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:44,599
part of Lemuria that's still you know above. I would

544
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,119
say for me at least, there there's two aspects of this.

545
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
You've got the forged fake stuff, and then you've got

546
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,359
the real evidence of an international maritime civilization that had

547
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,359
a very high degree of awareness of spherics, of the

548
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,640
mapping of the stars, that were building structures in harmony

549
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480
with the same universal sort of set of of ideas

550
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,599
that were discoverable and derived from the type of periodicities

551
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,640
and measurements one could get by by mapping out the

552
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720
cycles of the planets of the stars and things like that.

553
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,079
And so all of mathematics that I think that we

554
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,759
know of has been inverted by the same kind of

555
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:23,480
controllers that want to keep us in the cave to

556
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,799
make it seem as though the the what that math

557
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
emerged out of just counting shit or wanting to make

558
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,799
money and having accounting systems in Sumer or Babylon, and

559
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:38,079
thus out of math came geometry, and out of geometry

560
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,480
came physics and astronomy. At the end of the day,

561
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,519
whereas I think the reality, the real evidence points to

562
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:45,640
the fact that no is actually astronomy that came first.

563
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,079
And yeah, sure we could differentiate that there's two rocks,

564
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,240
not three rocks or something that that probably grew in parallel,

565
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,680
but it's not like math emerged first. I think that

566
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,680
the the math is is a tertiary phenomenon to first

567
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,559
the star body of physics of astronomy, and then from

568
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:06,519
there you have geometries that we can, like the Golden Section,

569
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,799
we could begin to start discovering pretty quickly by looking

570
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:14,160
at how these nonlinear changes happen in the stars, in

571
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,319
the procession of equinoxes, things like that, and then from

572
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,119
there you can get, like you could derive from study

573
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,880
of the Golden Section, things like the metric system, like

574
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,200
what we know of as being the even the imperial system,

575
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,480
and a lot of the metrics that are used in

576
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,319
the formation of the pyramid of Cofru, of the various

577
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,480
geometries that are organizing the structures of match Repeachu and

578
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,559
the structures of Guatemala and all over. And so there's

579
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,599
a lot of evidence that there was one unifying well

580
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,599
but with multiple not one unifying religion and one unifying culture,

581
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,000
but there was one unifying sort of system of commerce

582
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,640
that had certain common sharing of ideas.

583
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,519
Speaker 2: Do you think that they had the pyramids like apart

584
00:30:55,559 --> 00:31:01,440
from each other in a proportionate micro way as the

585
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,079
planets were.

586
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they were trying trying to do

587
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,720
that resonitely emulating what they could see of the promontories

588
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,319
of the planets. For sure, I could see that.

589
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think that that's really an intriguing thought.

590
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,079
Speaker 4: Yeah. There's another guy, a friend of mine named Fami Krasniki,

591
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,759
who did a great documentary, the best one in I interview.

592
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,680
I actually did a series of like nine interviews with

593
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,680
him that are that he just blew my mind with

594
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,960
the quality of his research. And it's a three hour

595
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,519
documentary that he did in twenty nineteen called what's called

596
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,799
K nineteen The Great Pyramid, And I'll send you actually

597
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480
that link. I thought it was the most responsibly done

598
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,160
account of or meta hypothesis of the pyramids, but not

599
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440
just of the Egypt. He begins with that, but then

600
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,359
of the of the alternative building methods that would have

601
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,119
involved pouring concretes not not necessarily moving big giant, multi

602
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:57,920
ton blocks huge distances. He actually goes a very very

603
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,079
good distance into demonstrating the molding and the evidence for

604
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,720
that of many of the concrete techniques inside of the Pyramids,

605
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,200
but also how that was replicated in the New World

606
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,759
as well. Well, it wasn't really called the New World

607
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:11,680
right back then.

608
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,279
Speaker 2: Man, I could see that that that actually would be

609
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:16,319
crazy if they could prove that, because that would make

610
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:18,559
a lot more sense. Maybe they didn't know how to

611
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,559
make really nice smooth concrete, you know.

612
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and anyway, I'll I'll send it the documentary

613
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,559
and builds on that. And uh. And it doesn't rely

614
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,599
on like Atlanteans super being Venusians, It doesn't rely on

615
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:35,400
on aliens help and it's not it doesn't rely on

616
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,960
on high advanced lasers. But it does break free of

617
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,559
the standard model garbage molding or garbage explanation that we're

618
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920
we're told we have to adopt if we want to

619
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,039
be scientific in each gypology, the same way that you know,

620
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,839
biologists are told if they want to be scientific and respected,

621
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,799
they have to adopt the Darwinian mold. And there's and

622
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:59,519
the and thus those who who reject that constricting absurdity

623
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,440
and all the absurdities that go with that type of

624
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,400
standard model will tend to often fall into the theosophical

625
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,039
trap of then trying sort of irrational of gnostic mystic

626
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:13,240
types and they will miss the nuance in between. So

627
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,680
one of the things that that was needed from the

628
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:18,759
Christian side. And this is where the Jesuits of Pierre

629
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:22,839
Tel de Chaldan, who later becomes a h the founder

630
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,359
of the term with Julian Huxley their friends in the

631
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:28,400
forties and fifties. He he comes into play here because

632
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,559
now that the Jesuits, under what are called the Modernists

633
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:35,960
of Chardy and his sect within the Jesuits, they're deployed

634
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,400
now to resolve the discrepancy by merging Darwinianism with Christianity,

635
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,319
so to bring Darwin into the church and to reform

636
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,319
the church that way, but not just for Darwin, but

637
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,359
for modernism more broadly, to get the church to accept

638
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,920
modern ideas. Now that becomes a false this is, this

639
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,720
becomes the scarecrow for what the the traditionalists despise when

640
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,039
because they think all things that are modernistic are evil, right,

641
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,599
all things that lead to technological progress is evil. But

642
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,759
that what they're reacting to is the type of chardy

643
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,440
uh disgusting infusion of modernism intoo Christianity, which was never

644
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000
supposed to work. Oh, the biblical hitman is doing.

645
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, shout out Stevens, he's doing tonight. Nice.

646
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,159
Speaker 2: I'll be out of turning into that later.

647
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely I will too.

648
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

649
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: Chavette is a disgusting piece of shape, like really really

650
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320
really gross person. He's like calling for he's running openly

651
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,960
about his call for forced eujetics onto the world in

652
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,199
a healthy type of scientific society. But he's a Christian supposedly, who's.

653
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: All by may. Uh you know, do you know who

654
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,559
James Giordano is, doctor James Giordana, James Giordano, James Giordano.

655
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,440
He's a what would you call him? A neuro warfare

656
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,760
expert and uh, you know, he's he's like deep into

657
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,880
the DARPA, you know. But he came out of Georgetown,

658
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,039
which is at Jesuit College, and very much into this

659
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,920
kind of what you just said, this forest, but through

660
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,039
science and this new Yeah, he very much creating the

661
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,719
foundations of that being possible. M Yeah, I would look

662
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,920
into him. He's he's an interesting character. I've written him down. Okay, Well,

663
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:19,280
what he's deployed to do he immediately is so he

664
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:26,679
starts his career early on, already participating with conan Sir

665
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,519
Ethor Conan Doyle and a team in England. He's just

666
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:33,000
like he was working in Egypt. And then he goes

667
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,559
on a little bit of a sojourn for a few

668
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,840
months to England where he just happens to be to

669
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,360
fall upon a little tooth somewhere in uh in Piltdown,

670
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,719
England and uh and there's an excavation that begins with

671
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,639
his little discovery of a few little chips of bone

672
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:51,519
and a tooth. And they this this this Royal Society team,

673
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,559
it's it's all the Royal Society. They then do this excavation.

674
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,599
Speaker 4: He's participating in this that generates what's called the Piltdown

675
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,079
Man as the missing link. And they're like, ah see,

676
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,239
finally Darwin is right, because there are missing links and

677
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,639
it's right here, we're tie out of the shellde happened

678
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,239
to like bump his toe on a tooth. Now it's

679
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,480
discovered years later, like a decade later, somebody actually does

680
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:14,400
the work on the jawbone.

681
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 6: And the the parcels of skull that were sort of assembled,

682
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,880
and it's proven that this thing was just a dyed

683
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,679
canine tooth with like a monkey jawbone and a human

684
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,360
skull or some inversion of that.

685
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So they didn't even excavate anything else there,

686
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,239
and they just mixed shit together.

687
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they just didn't extract out. Then they

688
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,960
made like, you know, artistic renderings of what these little

689
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,840
fragments were basically that looked kind of like a mix

690
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,119
between them a monkey and today's human right. And so

691
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:50,800
it was proven back in the twenties that it was

692
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,280
a complete hoax. But by then the idea was already

693
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440
seeping in because we went through ten years of propaganda

694
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,400
just influencing our felt thoughts of those who would like

695
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,960
just read that the the missing link was solved and

696
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,920
not think any more about the disclaimer in nineteen twenty three,

697
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,719
like ten years later saying oh yeah, maybe that was

698
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,920
a not maybe that was a fraud, But that's for

699
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,280
the logic now doesn't matter, because the felt thought matters more.

700
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,559
That's now what's acting on the ZEI, pipt And and CHLDY.

701
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,840
Then you know, he's still trying to like reform the church.

702
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,039
He's a disruptor and at a certain point because he's

703
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:25,920
again he's bringing in anti Christian dart concepts, he's trying

704
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,719
to into church doctrine, which they're clearly incompatible. The idea

705
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,960
of survival of the fittest, all the stuff. It's not

706
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239
compatible with the idea that mankind is made in the

707
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,400
living image of God. That's not compatible.

708
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,119
Speaker 2: So then it is whenever you hammer on the Scholfield

709
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:43,639
chosen you know people right, the thirteen tribes right, When

710
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,400
then you start hammering on that a little harder, it

711
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,679
might be a little bit more compatible.

712
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,119
Speaker 4: Good point, yeahs Uber mentioned. Yeah, And that's another thing

713
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,000
about about chl Bank. He's also a follower of Nietzsche.

714
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,079
He's also trying to promote the idea of the uber

715
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,960
mention of Nietzsche to Christianity. But he speaks so nicely

716
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:04,559
you now, and he about the christ consciousness idea, and

717
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,920
it became like kind of like a bomb for the

718
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,800
soul of many baby boomer hippies who just like resonated

719
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,119
with his outwards like it's it's true. When you read

720
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,679
just the outward surface appearance of what he says, it

721
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,760
seems a lot of it seems innocuous and kind of

722
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,880
pretty and nice. It makes you feel good. But then

723
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,559
if you actually look at his letters, you look at

724
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,719
the the the what's implicit in his in his writings

725
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000
that he's sort of like hinting at but you will

726
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,320
only find what he actually means by going to his

727
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,079
personal letters. Then you're like and and you look at

728
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,760
what he's doing as well, that that's important. Then you're like, oh,

729
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,760
he has he's lying to us. And there's just like

730
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,599
like any of the theosophist, there's an exoteric and an

731
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920
esoteric school of theosophy. And for the initiated, then they

732
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,760
get to discover the real uh Blavatsky, the real Bailey,

733
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,079
the real tay Alasalve. And one of the things he

734
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,840
does then does he goes he sent he's exiled to China,

735
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:57,920
and he starts working with Rockefeller funded programs that, for example,

736
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,320
take him to Peaking Today's Bay, where he all of

737
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,400
a sudden is participating a few years later in the

738
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,440
Peaking Men Excavation, which basically tries to correct the problem

739
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,119
of the fallacy of the pilt down Man hoax, which

740
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:17,400
is a hoax, and so basically he's the Rockefeller Foundation

741
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,559
is funding this thing again to prove the missing link exists.

742
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,480
And they find a bunch of bones. Somebody describes what

743
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,599
the bones are. They put him in a crate. They

744
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,159
is on site helping the excavation. They put the crate

745
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,519
on a train. It disappears forever. Nobody ever sees it again,

746
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:34,360
but it's sold to the world to this very day,

747
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,039
and people in Oxford and Harvard they still act like

748
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:40,559
this is somehow not a.

749
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:42,559
Speaker 1: Joke that these things out.

750
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: Man, the piltout bad.

751
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:47,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I've seen a digital rendition of

752
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:48,280
that before.

753
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,159
Speaker 4: Right, no one's ever seen the bones been gone for

754
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:53,159
like ninety years.

755
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: They're insane, dude, They still, like National Geographic will have

756
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,960
like an episode about it.

757
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Still come on, you.

758
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: Know, oh man, it's so it's so crazy. So at

759
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,519
that point, like he's in Shanna for twenty years, he

760
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:08,079
never learns the Chinese language. He despised the Chinese people.

761
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,880
He writes about how how disgusting he thinks the Chinese

762
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,599
are and how he'll never learn this language. He thinks

763
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:16,159
that actually they're an inferior breed. He talks about that.

764
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,119
So again, the defenders of of Chlding. I've written a

765
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,239
long essay on Sheldon, and I wrote a whole chapter

766
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,800
in one of my books, and I've had a lot

767
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,559
of his defenders come out attacking me for like slandering

768
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,519
their hero, and I'm like, but what, how do you

769
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,880
how do you respond to any of the quotes that

770
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,000
I'm setting from. I'm like, just deal with what he's saying.

771
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,320
And then and they can't do it because it's a

772
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,360
religious thing for them. It goes beyond logic. So but

773
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,559
he does it, and then he's he's participating in this thing,

774
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,039
and he becomes friends of all people with Julian Huxley,

775
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,800
and he describes him and Julian just are they're they're

776
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,840
they're working together with UNESCO that Julian is setting up.

777
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,960
And this is the grandson of Thomas Huxley, right, so

778
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,679
they're there. UNESCO is playing a big role in a

779
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,159
lot of chl Dan is interfacing with as far as

780
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,800
trying to get the control of the study of anthropology,

781
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,559
of the sacred sites of the old stories of humanity.

782
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:11,920
That's the purpose of UNESCO more than anything else. And

783
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,719
Julian Huxley says it explicitly in his founding documents that

784
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,719
the purpose of UNESCO is to bring people towards a

785
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
realization why eugenics is the queen of all sciences and

786
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,320
we need to accept the one World government, and he

787
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,360
says that in his manifesto, which is on the UNESCO website.

788
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,079
Speaker 1: So can we pause on that a little bit.

789
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: So the Chinese aspect to this, is it interesting that

790
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,840
they have the most advanced form of what they want

791
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,039
to bring into this one world government system. And when

792
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,159
you think about this thirteen tribes and then the Illuminati

793
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,800
thirteen blood lines, it's kind of weird that there's like

794
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,519
this weird parallel there, only in the sense that people

795
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:52,599
will accept that the thirteen leaders just to throw out

796
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:56,159
an arbitrary kind of concept here that they're divine right

797
00:41:56,199 --> 00:42:00,519
to rule even though really they're this bloodline of Illuminati family, right.

798
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,400
And so I think it's kind of interesting little parallel there,

799
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,119
because in China you already kind of have because of

800
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,960
the Rockefeller Trilateral connection and everything back in the.

801
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,159
Speaker 1: Early nineteen hundreds.

802
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,079
Speaker 2: They kind of accepted this system a long time ago,

803
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,719
this global you know, one world government system, and we're

804
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,800
kind of late and just kind of approaching converting into this.

805
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:22,920
But I think that when you look at China you

806
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,039
could see, because they don't like the Asians, that they

807
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:27,920
were pretty quick on just like, let's get rid of

808
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,400
them first. And get this institution into place first for them,

809
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,960
almost out of their disdain for them, that they were

810
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,280
kind of the first scapegoats.

811
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: There's yeah, I would almost want to have like a

812
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,000
whole show just just to sit down with you and

813
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,880
chat about this, because there's a layers to this, yeah,

814
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,960
that you're bringing up.

815
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.

816
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: I feel like any anything that I pull on will

817
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,599
almost derail the flow of the car.

818
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like listening to you talking about the

819
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,679
China aspect and then this and that.

820
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 4: Kind of well, definitely they have been obsessed for centuries

821
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:09,000
with destroying China and also India as two ancient civilizations

822
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,559
that have a continuous memory. They did a better job

823
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,079
of scrubbing the memory of the Indians because the British

824
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,320
directly controlled India for like two and a half centuries,

825
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,119
and during that time. I got a friend, actually, Matthew Crawford,

826
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:23,480
who I don't know if you have you looked at

827
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:24,440
Matthew Crawford's work.

828
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: I've heard of his name, Yeah, yeah, I have read,

829
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,079
not that I remember.

830
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: He did something. He's done the most incredible work on

831
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,119
the British control of India and how the British Empire

832
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:38,360
literally rewrote the sacred stories created Hinduism, which didn't even

833
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,639
exist before the nineteenth century. Before the British created hindu

834
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,199
there was the Vedas, the Vedic religions that existed, right,

835
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,480
But the British Empire literally created new Bremen caste religion

836
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,599
out of the Indus Valley concept that you know, if

837
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,320
you want to be friends of the British and get

838
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:58,960
become good sub alphas as local managers of the plantation

839
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,599
called India, then you was the new cast that Aldus

840
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,320
Huxley also adored and you like used to emulate that

841
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
that caste system that didn't even exist in that form

842
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,599
in any way before the British Empire. The cast system

843
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:12,719
was a much more fluid thing before the British Empire

844
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,320
got in there, and it just sort of denoted certain

845
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,400
positions of in society that you could move in and

846
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,840
out of based upon your will and your your capacity.

847
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,079
And you're merrit.

848
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that, all right.

849
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: So UNESCO.

850
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: UNESCO's purpose was to get people to accept one world government.

851
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Sorry for derailing you, but yeah, I could totally see that.

852
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,679
Speaker 2: I could see the Asian agenda there. That's been kind of.

853
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: Well and this yeah, yeah, and this is a lot

854
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:43,880
of what Blovatsky when she's bringing in Indian Eastern mysticism

855
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,880
or Eastern thinking into this new syncretic kind of uh uh,

856
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,880
highly adaptive world philosophy, this perennial philosophy that she's trying

857
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,320
to weave that could just absorb and and and suck

858
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,039
in anybody. Right, it's so adaptive that an and attractive,

859
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:04,920
the gravitational force of the malleability of this new type

860
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,079
of stew the type of Hindu and Buddhist doctrine that

861
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:13,079
she likes is the type that was largely artificially concocted

862
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,519
from scratch by the British Empire and their social engineers

863
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,840
in India. It's not real, it's not authentically Indian even

864
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:24,199
it's right. That's where where Annie Bessants who become she's

865
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,599
both a Fabian Society eugenicist, but then she's also the

866
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:28,960
head of the Theosophist Society who then sets up the

867
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,719
India Congress Party. So she's working with this guy Auto

868
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:37,320
Alan Octavian Hume, who's a British imperialist civil servant in

869
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,840
India who then sets up He's assignedist set up the

870
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,079
India Congress Party to absorb all of the revolutionary energy

871
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,719
of the Indian and Muslim and seek movements that were

872
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,119
all fighting against the British Empire. And all of that

873
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,760
had to be controlled, readopt redirected in a controlled way

874
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,519
so that you could have, as he calls it, the

875
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:58,679
creation of pressure valves to release the pressure of the

876
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,360
revolutionary tendency. And he does this. He's a theosophist. He's

877
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,360
he's not only a theostophist, he's a member of the

878
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:07,760
esoteric section of the theosophist and he is working closely

879
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,000
with Blavaski in Adyar. He's working with any Bissant who

880
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,480
becomes the head later on the president of the India

881
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:18,320
Congress Party and uh and so yeah, like there, that's

882
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,760
the variation, that's the damage that they're doing, yeah to India,

883
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920
which today to this very day, Gandhi is introduced to

884
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,440
the study of the Bagavadita and the and the study

885
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,639
of the that is when he's in London, he's in

886
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,119
London at the uh AT, studying at the at the

887
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:38,440
Inner Temple, and that's he's going to theosophical meetings. Who

888
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,079
are and it's the theosophist, teaching him what it means

889
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:44,639
to be in Indian studying the baghabdita. Right, he's friends

890
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,920
with might he might have some dispute with how Annie

891
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,360
Bissant wants to run things, but he's still a respectful

892
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,840
friend of hers, even to his old age. Judo Christian

893
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400
Morti is also a member of uh not Christian Christian

894
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,360
Morty sorry uh uh uh nehru jirohal nehru I can't

895
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,239
pronounce his first name. But he's also a Fabian Society

896
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
member who might get off the reservation at a certain point.

897
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:10,320
But this is completely shaped by these theosophical ideas as well,

898
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,679
and he's bunker it. He's you know, having an affair,

899
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,599
having sex with Lord Louis mount Batten's wife, so she's

900
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:19,320
becoming this like, you know, little plaything of the of

901
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,800
the elites who are using him. And maybe again later on,

902
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,920
I'll admit that he might get off the reservation. He's

903
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,280
disgusted by what the British are doing. So I'm not

904
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,800
saying that these are one dimensional characters. Neither of them

905
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,760
am I saying that God he is a one dimensional character.

906
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,880
Although he's probably a pedophile. He might have gotten off

907
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,079
the reservation. Still all that to say, they same thing

908
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,639
for China. They've been afraid of the idea that these

909
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,559
ancient civilizations, if they become self aware of what they

910
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,920
are in a proper way, then they represent a force

911
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,280
that could be reckoned with and that could upset the construct,

912
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,360
the construction or the ambition of those who are running

913
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,639
the British Empire who want to co opt, take back

914
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,639
control of America and then create this sort of new,

915
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,679
impenetrable Roman empire that ms laps this time around.

916
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,519
Speaker 2: Which is why the Bank of England, when people hammer

917
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,360
at the Bank of England being like at the core

918
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,679
of this kind of global conspiracy. It makes a lot

919
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,079
of sense when you kind of hear this, this.

920
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,639
Speaker 1: Kind of get fleshed out, you know.

921
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of the American deep state problems,

922
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,760
a lot of this is British, from the Rhodes scholars,

923
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,159
the Fabian this, the Theosophist penetrations into America at the

924
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,119
end of the nineteenth century. A lot even that the

925
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:27,840
very creation of the Skull and Bones. Even before before

926
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,639
these agencies were created, you still already had a British

927
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,679
fifth column that was already setting up shop with Wall Street,

928
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,679
so you can actually prove that all of Wall Street

929
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,840
as we know it, all of the Yale operation Ellie

930
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,320
Whu Root, who was the Skull and Bones leader, and

931
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,199
ahead of Yale, this guy was in charge of Chenai,

932
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:53,000
the private corporation of Chennai, which is a theosophical hub

933
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,760
and it's still a major cult control center of politics

934
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,559
even to this very day. And it runs in a

935
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,199
very similar way as the city of London runs as

936
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,400
a city within a city, as a private corporation, but

937
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,920
in India right above the control and influence of the state.

938
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,199
So it's is.

939
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: They're one of those in like every country that is

940
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,840
ran by I mean not every country, but you know

941
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,239
what I'm.

942
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,159
Speaker 1: Saying, Is this like a more common thing then?

943
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Because we always think of the Vatican, London DC, But

944
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:21,000
this probably, I mean, I would I would venture to

945
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,360
guess it probably is more common.

946
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: It's not in every country, but it's there. Is there

947
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:28,400
are these control hubs, these nobs, Yeah, for sure. And

948
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,280
that's that's Chennai, the Corporation of Chennai that Elihu Wu

949
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,360
had run for the British. This is what was running

950
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,880
the Opiumores. So the faction of the American aristocracy that

951
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,760
was running the Opimores and making the riches in the

952
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,000
nineteenth century. They were the ones who were allied always

953
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,039
to this. They were the pro British faction of America

954
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,960
that wanted to have this Anglo American, you know, organization,

955
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:51,280
and they basically despised the American revolutionary ideas, so they

956
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,079
wanted to undo the seventeen the Founding Documents state they

957
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,239
thought that that was a mistake. We should have always

958
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,920
just remained loyal to the British Empire and thus co

959
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,280
control the world is the ang Saxon races, you know,

960
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,599
forever without any type of disruption. So they were always

961
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:06,519
the ones, you know, overseeing the murder of so many

962
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,000
of the American presidents was this faction. And there's been

963
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,280
like eight American presidents that died while in office. And

964
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,320
if you can look at what they're all doing, they're

965
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,639
all picking fights with the exact same institutional traditions and

966
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:20,599
the representatives that are overseeing the destruction of China of India.

967
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,599
It's continuous, it's totally continuous, and they have penetrations into

968
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,199
massively India. I think that China and this is where

969
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,559
maybe in a future conversation, we can talk about some

970
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,599
of the new ones I've detected more of a battle

971
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,800
where I think that the Chinese have actually battled this

972
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,239
thing more than people realize, and that's obscured, but I

973
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,719
think that could be demonstrated in a bunch of conversational

974
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,480
positions that we could have in the future. But not

975
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,480
definitely we will, yes, uh, because a lot of us,

976
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,039
even if you look at like the worst things we're

977
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:55,000
told about China's social credit stuff, this is all stargate.

978
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,599
It's not none of this is coming out of China.

979
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,000
It's stargate operations from the city of London that seeded

980
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,400
into the into Califun. Yeah, created Stargate open Ai, all

981
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,039
of the ship Golden Sacks funding it. A lot of

982
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,440
this is run out of the Cavan Islands that then

983
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,639
were brought into China, especially into the in the late

984
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,559
nineties early two thousands, and that there's there's a battle

985
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:19,320
inside of China over extricating this thing and putting a

986
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
lot of the representatives of this force in prison. That's

987
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,320
what we're not told even in our alternative media. There's

988
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,719
a big, a big blackout wall there. But again that's

989
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,880
a whole side Trump signed.

990
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,519
Speaker 2: When Trump signed Stargate recently into you know, when he

991
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,559
started his presidency this past this most recent time. After

992
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,400
signing it, all the tech guys went with him to

993
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,760
sit down with the king, remember that, Yeah, right after yep.

994
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,400
So there's an interesting fact there factoid regarding this. They

995
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,599
started Stargate, he signed Stargate, all the tech bros go there,

996
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:52,920
and it is one one technocratic world order. But yeah, okay,

997
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:57,000
so again with the UNESCO created UH for accepting this

998
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:03,639
one world government and how it kind of of course.

999
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: So then you have like that tell out the Shelding

1000
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,599
and Julian Huxley, who together this is the same time

1001
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,800
nineteen fifty four that Julian Huxley is writing his new

1002
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,000
wine for new new wine skins for new wine, skins

1003
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:16,400
for old wine or new wine for old wine skins.

1004
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,039
Speaker 2: I forget anyway, I haven't seen that one.

1005
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:21,559
Speaker 4: This is where the term transhumanism in it's in its

1006
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,679
current UH terminology is coined I think for the first really, yeah,

1007
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,679
I need to read that.

1008
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,079
Speaker 2: I what a what a covert title for a very

1009
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,599
uh you know.

1010
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's part of an homage to something that

1011
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,920
that Thomas Huxley had written earlier forgetting the name anyway,

1012
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:47,079
it's in my book. But so yeah, you have both

1013
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,239
him and Chard in his o make up point and

1014
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,480
his Phenomenon of Man. He's writing me, he's actually writing

1015
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Julian Huxley is writing the introduction for the Phenomenon of

1016
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,440
Man by Chardin where he's also adding more detail but

1017
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,760
a little bit more for a religious audience, whereas Julian

1018
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,679
is catering his message for a more scientific audience. Of course,

1019
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,679
in both of them, they're friends. They act like ones

1020
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,440
and materialist ones a Christian spiritualists, but they're actually the

1021
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,360
same thing. They're just catering again, they're messaging to different

1022
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,800
audiences to nudge everybody to the same solution concept.

1023
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, the idea of the.

1024
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: Transhumanist thing that then becomes stargate. So the whole stargate

1025
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,880
thing is driven by the SRI. Right, So the first

1026
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,960
iteration of stargate was set up already by the CIA

1027
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:36,880
and the SRI in California back in nineteen seventy two.

1028
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:39,199
So seventy three is that officially gets off the ground.

1029
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:46,679
It's founding members are leading figures from scientology, right, how

1030
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,960
Putov and NGOs Swan and not just low level Scientology members.

1031
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,000
These are like seven ot operating feet and level like

1032
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:00,920
very elite members of the Scientology group become the founding members.

1033
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,440
Jacques Vallet is brought in by Helpouotof. They remain lifelong

1034
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,960
friends and still work together to this very day. And

1035
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:11,079
it's help Poutof that gives Jacques val a security clearance

1036
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:13,360
from the CIA to to be involved in this thing.

1037
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,039
They bring in Uh spoon Bender guy right Jury Yeller,

1038
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,679
who himself is a creation of of of poch Is,

1039
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,239
you know, overseeing the whole nine concoction, along with the DuPonts,

1040
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,639
the Forbe family, the the Melons. So you got these

1041
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,320
these these leading members of these oligarchical blue blood families

1042
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:41,400
who are getting together to be the assembled prophets or

1043
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,760
channelers of the the Nine, overseen by this Theosophus named

1044
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,719
the Jock or something. I'm forgetting what is.

1045
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,079
Speaker 1: Nine for anybody?

1046
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 4: The nine is a a creation. It's a it's a

1047
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:03,039
post World War two theosophical rebranding of channeled messages of

1048
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:07,920
ascended masters, but with more of an ET spinoff, where

1049
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:12,519
there's these imagined UH emissaries of the higher gods that

1050
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:16,840
want that want chosen selected super being human elites to

1051
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:21,400
direct the flow of human evolution to enlightenment, pretty much

1052
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,199
towards the externalization of a hierarchy. To to say it simply,

1053
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,440
could it be said that there?

1054
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Could it be said that they want to accelerate it.

1055
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 4: Yes, the accelerationists and they want to uh there there

1056
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,880
there these nine beings that exist in the I think

1057
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,400
one of the there's different flavors right that that emerge.

1058
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,280
Either they're in the the the rings of Saturn, so

1059
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,599
you got this whole Saturnian cult asp. But some say

1060
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,440
that they come from serious So there's different variations spinoff

1061
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,440
groups that have different interpretations of where the niner are

1062
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,199
existing in a either astral or temporal physical material domain.

1063
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,400
Some say they're disembodied, uh, some say they're physical. It's

1064
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,320
different flavors are the same thing. But the idea that

1065
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,599
that Puharich was because he was one of the key

1066
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:09,239
overseers of this grouping but his but his sponsors who

1067
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,880
are participating in these seances channeling the nine, the messages

1068
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,480
from the nine and then inscribing them through automatic writing

1069
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,480
and other things, were again leading members of the melon

1070
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:19,400
the DuPont family, the Forbes family.

1071
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: If I may, while we're on this, I'm sorry to

1072
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,119
cutting you off, but I just feel like it's important here.

1073
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,440
Cornelius Agrippa came up with this idea of the nine

1074
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:32,119
a long time ago, like this angelic hierarchy of nine.

1075
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:35,039
He was a hermeticist who wanted to merge Kabbala with

1076
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,760
Christian mysticism and merge it all together, this perennial philosophy,

1077
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:44,400
which actually leads into the traditionalist movement. Dugan follows him,

1078
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,079
you know, studies his work along with Gwennon's work and

1079
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:49,639
kind of brings it all together. But when you look

1080
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,400
at Agrippa and what he started, it seems to permeate

1081
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,440
into what you're saying, the Order of the Nine with this,

1082
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,239
i'm sorry, the order of the nine angles, which is

1083
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,159
an accelerationist movement. And you also have the Nine, which

1084
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,000
is what you're describing, which is less of a dark

1085
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,119
accelerationist eugenics movement, but it's more of like this ascension

1086
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,360
idea of bringing people under this ideology. But I think

1087
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,719
it's interesting it comes all the way back from Agrippa.

1088
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, dude, Now that that Agrippa, but there's this whole

1089
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Paracelsian network that even goes before Agrippa, that that is

1090
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,039
all these neo Platonic sort of scientific engineers. They're they're

1091
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:29,599
they're they're taking some of the formulas that that Plato

1092
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:31,800
lays out in the Republic, and they're just working it

1093
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,039
literally like they're using, like I think Plato whenever I've

1094
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:37,079
read I've read all of Plato except for except for

1095
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:39,760
the there's a couple of dialogues I haven't read, but

1096
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,280
I've I've studied Plato for years, and I'm totally of

1097
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,639
the view that Plato is giving us the keys to

1098
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,039
breaking out of the cave, and he's providing it like

1099
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:51,760
in the Republic. Within the context of everything he's doing,

1100
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,480
it's really a both a warning. He's showing you how

1101
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:59,199
he's taking people for the very first time into the

1102
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,880
sausage actor. He's showing you all of the the internal

1103
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,159
workings of something that is very ancient, that's been around.

1104
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:09,400
He didn't create the system that he outlines within the

1105
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,280
ten Books of the Republic. He's showing you what's already

1106
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,599
been there and the reason why we're all enslaved and

1107
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,320
being fucked over, and by giving you the by by

1108
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,760
doing it in that dialectical fashion, he's giving you all

1109
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,559
of the techniques and also tools to break out of it.

1110
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,159
Whereas these guys, all of the neo Platonists that come

1111
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:30,639
after him, were actually just hermeticists. They take the outward

1112
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:32,800
forms of what he does in the tamais about the

1113
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,159
as above so us below, but then they they they

1114
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:40,119
make it mystical hullabaloo. They just heart creating whatever type

1115
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:42,719
of hogwash symbolism that they that they can come up

1116
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,079
with to then build these whole tapestries of space operas

1117
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:49,840
and stories in a very gnostic kind of fashion, which

1118
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,760
are super condoluted today.

1119
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,719
Speaker 1: You really approve it.

1120
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,079
Speaker 2: I need to talk to you if I write this book, because,

1121
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,119
like you're I think you know the details that I

1122
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:59,840
don't quite know about. I feel it like an instinct

1123
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,920
knowing that that's what was done by reading his work

1124
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,039
and seeing how it's been obviously used today to try

1125
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:08,320
to put certain narratives, and I can see it, but

1126
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,440
I don't quite know all the details, so we'll have

1127
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,320
to talk more about that part later. Because I could

1128
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,440
see that, yeah, you could see the details of how

1129
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,440
they've taken it and just completely strung it along into

1130
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:19,480
new ideologies.

1131
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, like and so that's the agripa. All of these

1132
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:26,039
guys there, they love the idea of They call themselves Platonis,

1133
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,239
but they're not. They're they're actually the thing that Plato

1134
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,559
is trying to fight. If you read the like the Sophist,

1135
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:35,320
Plato's the Sophist, or Plato's The Statesman, or Plato's Permendes Dialogue,

1136
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,880
he's making fun of these, uh, these doppelgangers, these people

1137
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,480
who will who they existed, these theosophical types, they existed

1138
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,519
before they had that name in Plato's time, and they

1139
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:52,000
were there. They were emulating the outward structure of what

1140
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:55,400
Plato's philosophy, Socra's philosophy was in the Pythagorean philosophy. But

1141
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,920
they were doing they were they were tricksters. And he's

1142
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,440
sort of again he's not being literal, and people get

1143
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,000
very frustrated with Plato because he's not literal, but he's

1144
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:09,920
creating dissonances for the mind to appreciate, how the where

1145
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,639
are the flaws and the arguments? Where the flaws and

1146
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:13,559
the axims? Where is the slights of hand? Where are

1147
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,760
the slights of hand that are causing you to start

1148
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,239
with good premises in your pursuit of like what is

1149
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,679
justice and but then to result in horrific outcomes. And

1150
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:26,119
He's given you like the clues what is causing the

1151
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:30,599
mind to get tricked step by step into this horrific place.

1152
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:32,639
And this is what Agriply and others are doing. And

1153
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:35,519
I think, yeah, like when you look at the transhuman

1154
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:40,239
the theosophical roots of transhumanism, and again the theosophists set

1155
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,920
up the Valerian Brothers set up out of the Kratonal

1156
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,599
Lodge in California. Valeerian Brothers were the founders of what

1157
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,599
I would say is Silicon Valley in nineteen oh seven.

1158
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,599
They were progeny. They were born into this theosophical sect

1159
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:56,119
that I think was the spinoff of the Riyan Lodge.

1160
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:59,039
Of was it? It might have been William Kwan Judge's

1161
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:03,639
Aryan lodge that that's big in Mexico and in Baja,

1162
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,679
But oh no, this is the the the any Bassant lodge.

1163
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,079
I think that's the more official, the big, the more

1164
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:13,719
effective lodge. Well anyway, the Krotono Lodge was where the

1165
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,880
Valerian Brothers were born out of they they became the

1166
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,159
founders of the the what became Silicon Valley as tech

1167
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:22,760
firms in California that always had the idea of manifesting

1168
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,559
the new race.

1169
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: They didn't have drilled down on that. Yeah, drill down

1170
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,039
on that, because that's this. This is the the merging

1171
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,079
in with Silicon from the Theosophist.

1172
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:34,639
Speaker 1: And I, so who are these guys, the Valerian Brothers.

1173
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the valer I go through them in Uh.

1174
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm buying all your books, dude, I'm gonna tell you

1175
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,360
that right now. Okay, all three of those ones you mentioned.

1176
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,280
And what's this Rosicrucian gollumn.

1177
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's volume two Islam. And I go through the

1178
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:52,679
story of the Valerian Brothers and Silicon Valley.

1179
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:57,679
Speaker 2: And Tesla on there is Tesla Rosicrucian. No way, dude,

1180
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,119
Oh wow, wow, wow, wells another conversation sometimes I love

1181
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:03,119
about that.

1182
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: You can't there's no smoking gun that as a Rosicrucion.

1183
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,880
But let's just say he's he's one degree separation from

1184
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,159
Sulfer in every direction you could imagine from bulwer Lytton,

1185
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:22,719
who he studies. Bulwer Lytton's writing is the Rosicrucian grand

1186
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,239
Master who oversees the Rosicrucian Renaissance in England, and that

1187
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,519
seeds that actually trains Blobotsky. A lot of the auspice

1188
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:35,000
actually has an outcome of the bulwer Lytton operation. Also

1189
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:40,079
Thomas Huxley, he's he's a big Thomas hux So. Nikola

1190
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:43,119
Tesla is studying the X Club members, Herbert Spencer Huxley,

1191
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,320
he's calling for medatory. There's a here I have of

1192
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,920
Tesla giving to Hitler's official spokesman for in Washington, d C.

1193
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:53,840
George Sylvester Verrake, who is his best friend. He writes

1194
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,400
poetry to Hitler's official spokesman, George Sylvester Rake, who they're

1195
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,239
best friends for like twenty fucking years. And Tesla is

1196
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,480
giving interviews for this guy. He's a mainstream journalist as well,

1197
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,199
this great guy talking about his belief in mandatory eugenics

1198
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:13,960
for the world. Oh yeah, this is published, man.

1199
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: It makes sense because they want a scientific hierarchy over everybody, right.

1200
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: That rules.

1201
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: He's not a scientist, that's the.

1202
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they believe themselves to be like scientific thinkers, right,

1203
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,480
I mean yeah, yeah, Tesla did he believe himself to

1204
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,239
be an inventor scientist type.

1205
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,039
Speaker 4: I think he was so mystically inclined that he was

1206
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,639
being driven by the higher spirits. He thought of himself

1207
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:37,760
as a human automaton. He and he actually there's quotes

1208
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,039
that I have not of only of him. He describes

1209
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:42,840
his mission as the proof of the world that the

1210
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,719
soul is a chimera, the soul doesn't exist, and that

1211
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,480
he says that we are just the product of external forces.

1212
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,480
That causality for why wars happened cannot be understood by

1213
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:54,719
going to the mind. That's an illusion. It's all caused

1214
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:57,360
by the sun and forces of nature. And should you

1215
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,239
should just stop there and be satisfied with those kinds

1216
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:01,960
of materialists that get explanations. He So, I think he

1217
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,960
really does believe himself to be a magical robot and

1218
01:04:07,159 --> 01:04:12,599
uses nicol Tesla. Yeah, And I think he's because of

1219
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:15,320
his psychological profile. He's very similar to the psych profile

1220
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,800
of an Isaac Newton, who also is like this hyper

1221
01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:22,679
kind of Asperger's sort of character who was mystically inclined,

1222
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,719
very cabalistic, thought he was the Messiah. He thought he

1223
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,480
was like literally of a higher assented being. And I

1224
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:31,360
don't think those types of personalities who are miss messianic

1225
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,000
in their in their complex are very easy to handle

1226
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:37,320
him to manage. And and because they think that they're great,

1227
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,400
they think that they're awesome, and they don't see how

1228
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,199
like Uri Yeller is another personality type like this. In

1229
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:45,639
my mind, he's a joke. When you listen to him speak,

1230
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,880
you like he said, you've seen the spoon bending fan

1231
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,880
club right for the spoon bending the spoon Institute that

1232
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,760
went to interview him on YouTube. People could watch this interview,

1233
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,719
and he actually believes that there's a spoon Institute. He

1234
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,199
believes that that exists. And this guy is a is

1235
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:03,559
a comedian who basically goes and starts interviewing You're a

1236
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:08,000
Yeller who clearly thinks he's freaking awesome. He thinks that

1237
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:11,039
he got these mystical powers from ets that gave him

1238
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,119
these powers to bends. He knows that he's doing magic tricks.

1239
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,480
He can't do his spoon bending if he doesn't control

1240
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:19,920
his spoons. Like Johnny Carson brought all of Johnny Carson

1241
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,320
on Live TV, brought his own spoons and his own

1242
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,840
cups onto live show, onto the live performance that Ury

1243
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,280
Yeller didn't know what was going to happen. He thought

1244
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,639
it was going to be his spoons and his cups.

1245
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:32,440
He couldn't do any magic, and so he knows he's lying.

1246
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,920
It's a different species of lying, right, because they're conduits

1247
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,119
from an ascended.

1248
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: He was just on Joe Rogan and he had Joe

1249
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,800
Rogan was doing the thing with the spoon, and he

1250
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,840
was able to eventually bend it. He's like, I could

1251
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,239
do it, but I had to take a lot of forces,

1252
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:51,199
like yeah, no, I barely touched it when I did it,

1253
01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:53,320
you know, and just doing this kind of weird thing

1254
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,840
where it was like, dude, are we serious right now?

1255
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,159
To grown men are here bending spoons trying to act

1256
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:00,719
like there's some kind of divine This is crazy. We

1257
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,880
ventured this, like mate, full on, this is the matrix here, yes,

1258
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:05,800
I mean, and this is recently.

1259
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,719
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan had had this guy on his show.

1260
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:10,599
Speaker 2: He had he had I didn't know his name off memory,

1261
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:12,119
but yeah, spoon bender guy.

1262
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:13,119
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was on there.

1263
01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:15,159
Speaker 2: He brought the spoon that he bended whenever he was

1264
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,599
in or bent whenever he was in you know, whatever

1265
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:20,679
school he was in and he brought it with him.

1266
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: He said, this is the exact spoon and everything.

1267
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: Dude, it's like cultural mush, dark aged stuff. Okay, so yeah, dang,

1268
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:28,119
that's so. That's the thing.

1269
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1270
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 4: In my book, I've got like nine chapters specifically going

1271
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:37,880
through different angles of different aspects of Tesla. And that's

1272
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,079
not to say that that the legitimate inventions associated with

1273
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:43,760
Tesla are not legitimate inventions. My position though, is, after

1274
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,000
all of the evidence I've seen, including uh a multitude

1275
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,719
of data points of specific inventions that I know and

1276
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,760
can prove were discovered by other people, including the Tesla coil,

1277
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,360
he don't his discoveries are legit discoveries as far as

1278
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,760
they were made by objective human beings and turn and

1279
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,639
turned into inventions that were objectively made and are useful.

1280
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:07,400
But they were they were stolen from actually the same

1281
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,760
way the scientific discoveries associated with Isaac Newton are legit discoveries,

1282
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,960
but they were discovered by people who were not Isaac Newton.

1283
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:19,400
They were lifted, stolen, and copied and then associated with

1284
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,800
this guy with this whole story that you know, apples

1285
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,599
have to fall on the head for you know, gravity

1286
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:24,280
to be discovered.

1287
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's the idea of like Marx, right, Marx was

1288
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,079
put up and and he didn't even write his manifesto,

1289
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,440
you know. And same thing with Darwin, like there's theories

1290
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,840
that Darwin didn't come up with a lot of the

1291
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:34,360
things he said.

1292
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,159
Speaker 1: He just was these frontmen that they get chosen to be.

1293
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 4: What is exactly what is useful in Darwin's system, just

1294
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,599
like what's useful in Marxist system, because there are mechanical

1295
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,440
useful things within their systems of descopital and within origin

1296
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,880
of species that that do emulate things that we empirically

1297
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,320
find and that you could you could take you could

1298
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,719
make useful bits of progress. But those elements you will

1299
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,679
find invariably actually are from real scientists and then packaged

1300
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:07,400
into this new highly problematic model of either Marxist like

1301
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:12,480
Marxist studying American system economists like Henry C. Kerry, who's

1302
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,039
corresponding with Marx. Marxis reading Kerry, He's reading list. These

1303
01:08:16,039 --> 01:08:22,319
are real, actual moral, solid revolutionary economists who are who

1304
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:26,199
are harmonizing the liberty of the individual, that is, that

1305
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:29,279
is primary to the welfare of the whole society. That

1306
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:31,479
you could also think of as sort of an objective

1307
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,000
thing that has cycles, that has needs of increasing powers

1308
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,359
of production, right, not decreasing it for the whole society,

1309
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,560
as an almost like an you can it's a useful

1310
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,000
way to think about humanity as a whole that has

1311
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,279
certain objective needs. You got to increase water access, you've

1312
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,199
got to increase food production, you got to increase new

1313
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:49,760
technologies to overcome limits to growth as an objective whole.

1314
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:52,159
But do it in such a way that it's not dictatorial,

1315
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,039
that you don't just have a scientific creatorship managing levers,

1316
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,960
but that actually allows for the faith that the individual

1317
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,279
given liberty can actually and you know, harmonize both have

1318
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,399
individual incentives met as an entrepreneur, while at the same

1319
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439
time not hurting humanity at the same time.

1320
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: Right, monopolizing resources what a crazy thought. Yeah, you know,

1321
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,760
I yeah, monopolizing water or oil.

1322
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1323
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 2: One thing I want to mention that Tesla was given

1324
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,359
the technology. Yeah, but they always do steel technology. Notice

1325
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:27,600
how with Tesla they said that his technology was stolen,

1326
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,439
So it's almost like, you know, with their guys, they'll

1327
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,600
do this weird inversion where they're like, no, they he

1328
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,479
actually had his stuff stolen because.

1329
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: Everybody, Yeah, everyone likes the underdog. Interesting, Yeah, that's right.

1330
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,520
And it's like they've created such a mythos around the

1331
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,920
guy that again, it's more like a religion, it is.

1332
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,239
It's become more religious for people now. And there's Tesla

1333
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,640
two point zero of Elon Musk, who's the same.

1334
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: Stuff eugenics exactly. Now that you've explained Tesla better, I

1335
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,279
didn't know all that about him, which I should have

1336
01:09:57,319 --> 01:10:00,439
assumed that there was some of these aspects. But hearing this,

1337
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,600
I'm not surprised at all. And when you look at Elon,

1338
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,239
it makes so much more sense why he would give

1339
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:09,479
that homage to Tesla, because he is in that ideology entrenched.

1340
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:12,199
So how does this connect with the Varian Brothers and

1341
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:15,840
then into Silicon Valley. Uh, the theosophical We'll get back

1342
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,399
to the theosophical connection there, Okay.

1343
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: So the Valerian brothers themselves are theospus. They believe self

1344
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:28,000
consciously that they are manifesting in the material domain the

1345
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:31,319
conditions around which the new race will be able to evolve.

1346
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,479
As Blabot called for this, I think it was the

1347
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,079
sixth roup race she said was gonna come out of

1348
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:37,760
the fifth. I think we're at the end point of

1349
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,279
the fifth, right, and now we're going to go into

1350
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:46,600
the sixth. So they were sort of the first Yeah,

1351
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,479
it's like they created tech firm. I haven't looked at

1352
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,880
this stuff in a while, so we'll circle back to

1353
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,239
this is in my book.

1354
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,119
Speaker 2: But theosophy entered Silicon Valley through the Valerian brothers.

1355
01:10:57,159 --> 01:10:59,079
Speaker 1: And then how did that evolve?

1356
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 4: It started later on by even before World War two

1357
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:07,159
even began, you had already Stanford, the Stanford University was

1358
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:10,520
playing a big role in providing cover to bankroll a

1359
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:15,760
lot of this research. The military was contracting this institution

1360
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,039
for even before World War two began, but especially World

1361
01:11:19,079 --> 01:11:21,000
War two became a big part where this thing got

1362
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:23,439
embedded within the military industrial sector.

1363
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:28,239
Speaker 2: There's books back there I if I could, Yeah, yeah,

1364
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:30,279
whenever you flow with the're straight.

1365
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,399
Speaker 4: Because it's so important that I don't want to overly generalize.

1366
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,439
But let's let's overly generalize for the moment and uh

1367
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:45,840
and just keep it I guess broad enough, because well, we.

1368
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: Have Jack Parsons too. Of course, Jack Parsons connection with

1369
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,800
silicon valleys is a pretty bad point clear as well, right,

1370
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,640
I mean when you look at Jack Parsons seems to

1371
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,199
clear a call to this Crowley follower. So there's a

1372
01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:59,199
little bit of that also, right, that adds into Silicon Valley.

1373
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 4: There's there that there's the ot because look, Crowley is

1374
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,399
also fighting for the title of the World Teacher against

1375
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,000
Judu Christian Morty. He's like, and that's where you know,

1376
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,880
in the twenties, Christian Morty hasn't yet broken away from

1377
01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:13,600
what he's supposed to be the Matreya. You know this

1378
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,479
this poor kid who's been like, you know, groomed by

1379
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,560
the pedophile leadbeater for a while, and he hasn't broken

1380
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,079
free yet. But he's he's he's still got a big

1381
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:25,479
cult following. He's the heralded world Teacher. And this is

1382
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,319
I think he only breaks away in nineteen twenty eight,

1383
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:29,239
But in nineteen twenty five Crowley is like, no, it's me.

1384
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:32,479
I'm the world Teacher. And he has a whole network of.

1385
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 2: His He was abused, He was abused as a kid.

1386
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: Crowley Crowley was probably abused. Yeah, I mean his dad.

1387
01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:44,640
After his dad died, I think his uncle who played

1388
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,199
a big role. Like he's born into the Plymouth Brethren,

1389
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:54,079
the Derby Exclusive, the exclusive Plymouth Brethren. It's the most

1390
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:58,479
radical sect of the Plymouth Brethren that that exists, that

1391
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,359
Darby created. The founder of rapture theology was Darby pre

1392
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,039
millennialist dispensationalism. That's Derby. He created the exclusive Brethren cl

1393
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:08,119
that Crowley was born into. And Crowley even said in

1394
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,319
his confessions that he always remained loyal to the worldview

1395
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,479
of Darby. He just said, I took the devil side,

1396
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but as far as like the entire reading of.

1397
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:17,359
Speaker 1: Them, so he believes.

1398
01:13:18,359 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: Wow, he believes in evangelical ideologies, but takes the devil's side. Yeah.

1399
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like how Darby reads the Book of Revelation is

1400
01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:29,399
how Crowley also reads it. He's just like, we have

1401
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,560
to accelerate it towards where Darby's like, we have to

1402
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,760
accelerate it so that the Messiah comes back, which I

1403
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,800
don't think. I think Darby was probably always a Satanist

1404
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,920
in his true heart. Crowley's just more open about the

1405
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,840
fact that, no, we have to accelerate it, you know,

1406
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,640
so that we can get the devil to come back.

1407
01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:46,640
And so he just creates his left hand path choice

1408
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,479
early on. But I think his uncle who plays a

1409
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,359
big role in raising him, getting him his in with

1410
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,720
Cambridge University, is probably molesting him. I'd say he's got

1411
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,760
all of this psych profile even when he's you know,

1412
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,119
twelve eleven, twelve years old, murdering cats. You know somebody

1413
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:04,079
who's highly abused.

1414
01:14:05,279 --> 01:14:07,039
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, okay, I didn't know that about him, but

1415
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:08,000
I'm not surprised at all.

1416
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: And then you.

1417
01:14:09,399 --> 01:14:11,399
Speaker 4: Know he's already like a teacher. He's being brought in

1418
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:16,159
by Lord Gascoyne Cecil, who's like lead, a leading figure.

1419
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:18,479
He's a former Prime Minister of England who sees his

1420
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,119
talent and then introduces him to the Hermetic Order of

1421
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:23,720
the Golden Don, but also brings him into what appears

1422
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,600
to be the Primro Society not appears to be this guy.

1423
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,640
Richard Spence, the author of Secret Agents sixty sixty six,

1424
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,760
did a great exposition on this part of the story

1425
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,119
where there's the Primro Society as a as a Stuart

1426
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,199
restorationist movement, those who believe that the Stuart blood line

1427
01:14:42,279 --> 01:14:45,920
should be brought back the jack They're called the the Jacobites,

1428
01:14:46,079 --> 01:14:49,520
So it's a Jacobite secret society that is calling for

1429
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:53,359
the restoration of this of the Stuart blood line, and

1430
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,439
so he's brought into that. It's a secret society. He's

1431
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,880
brought into espionage circles at the same time as he's

1432
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,000
made a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Don.

1433
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,640
But the Hermitic Order gold Don is overlapping with the

1434
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,680
esoteric section of theosophy from the very beginning, from the

1435
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,079
isis Her Lodge that is set up in eighteen eighty seven.

1436
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,800
All of the founding members are all are all working

1437
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,079
with Bolovotski's esoteric section, and they're all followers of bull Religton.

1438
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,680
They're all followers of Buller Lytton's Rose Crucian Society in

1439
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,000
Anglia that was set up in eighteen sixty seven that

1440
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:22,600
has penetrations into into the United States. That people like

1441
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,840
Colonel Alcott, who's co founding, who becomes a co founding

1442
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,119
member of the Ospice in eighteen seventy five, he's directly

1443
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:31,600
a part of this thing, and he's part of the

1444
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,159
three men he selected, of all people to be selected

1445
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,720
to be the sort of Warren Commission leader of eighteen

1446
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,119
sixty five over to oversee the lone gunman theory of

1447
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:43,520
the murderer of Lincoln.

1448
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so Lincoln's Warren Commission.

1449
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Lincoln's Warren com Mission of eighteen six five.

1450
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:53,840
So and he's like, of course, so lone gunman. He's

1451
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,760
kind of like doing the Allen Dulls thing. No, nothing

1452
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,319
else to see here, and then he's brought in at

1453
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:00,640
the same time to the Rose Krushan Opera. He's set

1454
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,640
up to meet with Blobotsky in eighteen seventy five. They

1455
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,359
set this thing up, but they're all talking about sended

1456
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:09,520
masters guiding us got in human evolution towards this this

1457
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,920
new super being thing that's going to decide who gets erased,

1458
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,399
who's not allowed to evolve or who's not not fit

1459
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,680
to evolve, and who will be And basically, if you're

1460
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,680
part of their inner club, you get to be part

1461
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,920
of their Like Madonna said in her creepy you know

1462
01:16:24,119 --> 01:16:28,600
Grammy or whatever Emmy performance you get to, you get

1463
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,840
to survive in otherwise you don't.

1464
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,079
Speaker 2: If I may say Madonna is a Kabbalist, and which

1465
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:36,880
proven by the way in Epstein Files, I mean they

1466
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,840
literally talked about it in the Epstein Files about uh,

1467
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:42,520
I forgot Betty Singer, whoever the Margaret Singer, whoever the

1468
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,960
lady is, that's like the the gatekeeper for Hollywood. She

1469
01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:47,960
talked about Madonna and how she didn't like her, but

1470
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,039
now that she's like a good goy on that studies

1471
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:52,960
the Kabbala, she has taken a little liking to her.

1472
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:56,479
But yeah, but to your point about Alice Bailey or

1473
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,239
about that, Alice Bailey says in her externalization of the

1474
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:03,439
hierarchy that because we have a everlasting part of ourselves

1475
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,600
right and reincarnated soul that goes on forever, you know,

1476
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,720
she says. You may say it's unfair that a lot

1477
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,039
of people are going to die. She says, many are called,

1478
01:17:13,119 --> 01:17:15,840
few are chosen, many will be called, but the second

1479
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,600
initiation is only for certain people, like you're saying, And

1480
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,000
she says, may I remind you that this is not

1481
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,399
your soul's one life and that you're gonna ascend throughout

1482
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:28,560
your death. So when we kill you, you're gonna ascend.

1483
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,840
Your soul will ascend either way, so you should actually

1484
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,119
thank us for killing you. So the way that they

1485
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,800
look at this is completely crazy. So I just want

1486
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,279
to add that to what you were saying there.

1487
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's really, it's so disgusting and like, yeah,

1488
01:17:42,359 --> 01:17:46,319
all from that standpoint, all abuse that happens to children

1489
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,319
is actually a gift because you're giving them the necessary

1490
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:52,520
lessons that their previous lives demanded that they learn now

1491
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,800
as they're being you know, abused in Epstein Island or whatever,

1492
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,840
that everything's happening to the continent of Africa. All the

1493
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,920
children have to die, for fifteen thousand children die every

1494
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,800
day of starvation in Africa to this very day. All

1495
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,680
of that is just a beautiful gift ultimately for their

1496
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,720
soul to learn lessons because they must have been bad

1497
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,840
in previous lifetimes and now they're just learning the lessons

1498
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,720
theyn't need as they reincarnate in you know, a thousand

1499
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,560
years or something, and they'll be better people for it.

1500
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,319
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Hey, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna abuse

1501
01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:23,000
you or kill you.

1502
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: But it's your fault.

1503
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 2: So whatever you did in your past life that I'm

1504
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,159
doing this to you for, you know what I mean.

1505
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:30,600
That's a that's a wild way to gaslight somebody into

1506
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:36,399
Stockholm syndrome. So great correlation into I think we did

1507
01:18:36,399 --> 01:18:39,479
discover that correlation of how it did get into Silicon Valley.

1508
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,000
I mean you've got, of course this mixture of like

1509
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:45,239
Aleis J. Crawley comes from theosophy Golden Dawn and mixes

1510
01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:49,439
with Parsons, scientology, the intelligence community, and of course the

1511
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:50,359
Silicon Valley.

1512
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:53,279
Speaker 1: So let's put a button on it. What else?

1513
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: How else did it kind of infiltrate into Silicon Valley

1514
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,119
as it kind of evolves to today? How do you

1515
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:05,119
do you see thesophical ideologies permeating narratives out of Silicon Valley?

1516
01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think that the way I look at is

1517
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,279
like the cultural driving force of Silicon Valley really became

1518
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,319
it really became Eslin. So es Eslin by the early

1519
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:19,119
sixties became the the cultural sort of nerve center of

1520
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:23,800
these mythraic high priests that were embedded within through the

1521
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,560
teachings of all this Huxley, you know, Michael Murphy and

1522
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,159
Pat Price. Also Pat Price was Michael Murphy was also

1523
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:31,920
in a I think we talked about this last time,

1524
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,760
right an Orobindo Ashram for several years, being trained by

1525
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:40,560
the mother Mi Fase who's a Kali high priestess, and

1526
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,399
people like Jeffrey Krippl, who's today the official biographer of

1527
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,479
eslin Uh talks about how he himself is also an

1528
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:52,960
initiate into Kali colie worship and Kali initiatory practices. The

1529
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:55,760
Kali you know, the the crazy image that we find

1530
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,880
of the khalid al Uga Cali. Yeah, the separate heads.

1531
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 2: And the If I may say, while you're on this,

1532
01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:05,039
the CEO of Vanthropic just went on Joe Rogan and

1533
01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:09,600
talked about the old Hindu gods having nukes and essentially

1534
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,039
the Kali Yuga for about an hour until he went

1535
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:15,039
into talking about how Ai is going to take over

1536
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:18,079
for the next two hours, so he talks about exactly

1537
01:20:18,119 --> 01:20:21,039
what you're saying. You see this ideology in Silicon Valley

1538
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:25,359
with the CEO of Perplexity, right, So here we go.

1539
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,239
Speaker 1: It is there.

1540
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 4: It is not in the in the again the disastrous

1541
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,119
train wreck that is modern quantum mechanics, which is not

1542
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:36,279
a science, it's it's an alchemicals. It's an alchemical ritual

1543
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,199
masquerading as science that grew out of the nineteen twenty

1544
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:43,119
eight Solve Conference on Science, where all of the people

1545
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:46,439
who discovered made real discoveries like Einstein and mox Plank

1546
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,119
and Madame Curie and all the Louis de bro Glee,

1547
01:20:49,159 --> 01:20:50,840
they were all iced out. They were the ones who

1548
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,439
made the discoveries of the quantum realm. They were all

1549
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,520
iced out because they believed in causality. They had a

1550
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,199
method of thinking that we're not allowed to that's forbidden.

1551
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,560
And then only the mathematical probability theorists around the Copenhagen

1552
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,600
School of Neil's Moore were permitted to be the ones

1553
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,520
to control the models of acceptable scientific methodology that were

1554
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,640
then giving Rockefeller funded grants and things like that that

1555
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,479
were then turned into things like CERN. Right, So they

1556
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:19,319
were building decades of energy intensity, very expensive machinery around

1557
01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:25,399
tokemax and particle accelerators modeled on a an incompetent notion

1558
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,239
of what is the atom? What is science? Based upon

1559
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:31,239
very kinetic ideas of of making things, making particles like

1560
01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:33,279
hit each other so that you could like just measure

1561
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,000
the uh, the the trajectory of the of the of

1562
01:21:37,039 --> 01:21:39,760
the shrapnel pretty much to come up with new theories

1563
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,279
like Higgs bosons and and subparticles. All of the ship

1564
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:46,279
is are ill theoretical too, yeah, and the and the

1565
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:49,680
and they have the big Kali cli Uh statute that

1566
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:52,640
share in their real heart of hearts, and Shiva and

1567
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,319
Cali have strange overlaps as.

1568
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:56,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the same, I think.

1569
01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the shocky version is just the male female

1570
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,920
shocky sheba version of the same sort of unification of opposites,

1571
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,439
of sexualized opposites of genders. But and there's more to it.

1572
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,119
I know people who are into this stuff were probably

1573
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,319
by what we're saying. What I just how I just

1574
01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:13,079
bastardized it.

1575
01:22:13,159 --> 01:22:15,159
Speaker 1: But no, man, I mean I don't.

1576
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:17,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's must have a vasterization. You can

1577
01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:19,720
split hairs and go into semantics and say how they're

1578
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,279
different for this or that, but at the end of

1579
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:24,600
the day, they are very similar anti deities.

1580
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: And they think so in I think the inner sanctum

1581
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:29,319
not Most of the scientists probably have no clue. They're

1582
01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:34,960
just like materialists, standard model, brainwashed human automatons working on

1583
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:38,600
uncern But in the inner sanctum, like the the Oppenheimer

1584
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,079
level crowd that's actually organizing this thing, they are obsessed

1585
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:45,640
with opening up a portal, uh two channel arcons to

1586
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,800
bring in the archons, to bring in whatever the demons

1587
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:48,920
are to invoke like this.

1588
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Uh So that's what the new.

1589
01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:53,399
Speaker 4: Horizon, right, they want to they want the Event Horizon

1590
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,119
of Sam Harris died died this morning, by the way,

1591
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,119
what yeah Sam Harris?

1592
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no way, they see the AI's CEO.

1593
01:23:02,079 --> 01:23:05,359
Speaker 4: No Sam Harrison, Oh no Sam? Do I say Sam Harris,

1594
01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:07,560
not the event No, the the actor who played Jurassic

1595
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,359
Park and Event Horizon. Sam okay, not Harris. What's the

1596
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,520
name Sam? Uh Blonde Jurassic Park?

1597
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? I forgot his name, but yeah, he's the O

1598
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,640
G Jurassic Park guy.

1599
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is uh Sam Neil.

1600
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:26,520
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sam Neil? Okay, r P Sam Neil Man, r

1601
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,199
P Sam Neil. But we won't even mention Lindsay Graham's

1602
01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:31,840
name on here. I got nothing to say about it. Yeah,

1603
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,319
I've never been happy bout anybody dying, but I did

1604
01:23:34,319 --> 01:23:36,319
get a little smile on my face for that one.

1605
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, that's crazy.

1606
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 4: A little bit fuller.

1607
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, r I P r P. Yeah.

1608
01:23:42,319 --> 01:23:45,119
Speaker 4: But yeah, So all that to say, they that's what

1609
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:48,279
they think, they think that they're invoking. They're they're participating

1610
01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:50,880
in either the the end of the Collieu Guy age.

1611
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,000
Now to transition now to this cataclysm that's necessary for

1612
01:23:54,039 --> 01:23:57,279
the new cycle to begin after everything, because in the

1613
01:23:57,319 --> 01:23:59,880
colleague you got sort of philosophy everything is decay and

1614
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,279
everything is in tropic everything of that is. It's very

1615
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:06,279
much in alignment with the traditional school that presumes that

1616
01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:10,560
all modernism, all all scientific improvement is actually decay. Is

1617
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,159
all this worse and bring us to this maximum singularity.

1618
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,119
Speaker 1: I'll see the connection there. Now, why Bandon and all them?

1619
01:24:16,399 --> 01:24:18,520
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense, and that's why they

1620
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,479
just keep hammering on this like Hindu Cali Yuga concept.

1621
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,199
But also it's coming from guys who are trying to

1622
01:24:25,239 --> 01:24:28,359
open portals and connect with these uh said, archives and

1623
01:24:28,399 --> 01:24:31,720
things like that. So it's a very clear correlation with

1624
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,399
the narrative. Man, I think that we did cover a

1625
01:24:34,399 --> 01:24:36,479
lot of the connections here, I mean, is and what

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else you got? I think I could see the picture

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01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:40,319
hopefully everybody else can.

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Speaker 4: I think it's there, hopefully. When people think about what

1629
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,039
stargate means, they ask colors how they're thinking about it,

1630
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:48,520
because what is the stargate exactly?

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:49,279
Speaker 1: You know? What?

1632
01:24:49,279 --> 01:24:51,159
Speaker 4: What? What gate is being opened in the minds of

1633
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:56,279
those creating the name for the stargate? Might you know, uh,

1634
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,439
mon like, because I mean, the whole Stargate thing was

1635
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,319
overseen by followers, by followers of a guy who was

1636
01:25:02,359 --> 01:25:05,680
doing a Babylon ritual with Jack Parsons in nineteen forty

1637
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,960
six to try to invoke the Antichrist, like that guy

1638
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:13,520
who created the entire scientology movement was doing Babylon working rituals.

1639
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:14,920
I think he was playing the role of the scrier,

1640
01:25:15,359 --> 01:25:17,760
the Ed Kelly to the John de of Jack Parsons,

1641
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,800
doing sex magic and probably other things to invoke the Edgichrist.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

1643
01:25:25,159 --> 01:25:28,039
Speaker 2: Three months after you have Trump born right on a

1644
01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:31,600
blood moon eclipse, which is weird. And nine months later,

1645
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,159
nine months later, you had Michael Aquino born, which is

1646
01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:37,640
odd too. So it's like you got two of these

1647
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,520
guys who are like chaos magician, mind war guys that

1648
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,600
are helping accelerate this coming of the Mantrea whatever you

1649
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,560
want to call it, right, this world teacher that's going

1650
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,479
to come and initiate the world into this new one

1651
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:53,560
world religion government whatever. And yeah, isn't it interesting They're

1652
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,640
both connected in a weird way, both with three and

1653
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,439
nine to this Babylon workings.

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Speaker 4: That's uncomfortable, Yeah, that's uncomfortable.

1655
01:26:02,279 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not to make it's it's like, what

1656
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:07,159
the fuck is for me?

1657
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 4: It's up there with like Trump offering his uh you know,

1658
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,119
the Devil's Advocate movie with al Pacino and uh uh

1659
01:26:14,079 --> 01:26:15,199
uh what's his name?

1660
01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:20,279
Speaker 2: The Christian Bale No no, no, no, yeah, yeah, where

1661
01:26:20,279 --> 01:26:20,760
he's the lawyer.

1662
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,520
Speaker 1: He's the lawyer, right, he's the lawyer.

1663
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,119
Speaker 2: I can't believe I thought that was Christian Baie.

1664
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, cantu literally the son of the devil of of

1665
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,880
al Pacino is the devil. He's the son of who's

1666
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,319
being recruited to be a part of a new Babylon

1667
01:26:31,399 --> 01:26:33,439
working where he's expected to have sex with his sister

1668
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,880
to anti christ that again.

1669
01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been too long. That's exactly it.

1670
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 4: The theme that takes place. There's a there's literally a

1671
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,279
Trump character who's a billionaire real estate magnate of New

1672
01:26:44,399 --> 01:26:47,239
York who does this brutal murder on a kid and

1673
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:50,079
two women, and he has to be defended. He clearly

1674
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:52,000
did it, Yeah, but he has to be defended by

1675
01:26:52,079 --> 01:26:55,439
Canna Reeves, who's selling his soul and the the location

1676
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,720
where this is being filmed is Trump's gilded apartment in

1677
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:00,880
on Fifth Avenue.

1678
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a beautiful loft like I remember this, yeah,

1679
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,159
you know, because they were like a huge wall.

1680
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this Greco Roman Apollodian.

1681
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, holy shit.

1682
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 2: And you know his grandma and his dad's middle name

1683
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,760
was christ Yes, come on, like you can't. I mean

1684
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,960
there's so much there back to the future with the

1685
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,239
Biff guy. I mean, there's so much there with Tesla

1686
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,119
and then the JPL get JPL where Jack Parsons work

1687
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:30,840
getting Tesla's equipment from Trump's uncle. It's like, how many

1688
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,079
connections can you have here? You know, don't even talk

1689
01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:35,640
about the airship from the eighteen hundreds. Don't even talk

1690
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,439
about you know, all these different other connections that predate

1691
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,840
him even being born that seemed to talk about it.

1692
01:27:42,079 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 4: The airship thing just have been a blimp or something.

1693
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:45,520
Speaker 1: What had Trump on it?

1694
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: You know where it said forty seven on the same

1695
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,079
it's artistic entry.

1696
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 4: There's an artistic painting of the of the airship of

1697
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,560
an airship which is like a limp or like, yeah,

1698
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,880
it's like it's a it's an airsh but yeah, it's

1699
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,640
a it's a Renaissance style airship. Let me pull it up, okay,

1700
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,359
and it says Trump forty seven on it. Oh yeah, dude,

1701
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,039
that's not AI. That's like legit.

1702
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,119
Speaker 1: No, like as far as I know, it's legit. Me.

1703
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:14,119
Speaker 2: It's even got like this artist's name and everything.

1704
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:15,039
Speaker 1: I forgot his name.

1705
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:17,399
Speaker 4: I will, I will want to look into that. Oh yeah,

1706
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:18,760
because then you got the weird.

1707
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: Think you're right, because there's a lot of narrative serving

1708
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,119
you good, good good instinct.

1709
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, might I always go to But I mean, shit's crazy, man,

1710
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,720
Like absolutely, I'm compared to maybe.

1711
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,199
Speaker 2: So you have arrow Trump ero Trump, Yeah, and then

1712
01:28:37,239 --> 01:28:40,560
you have on this one Trump and there was another

1713
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,600
one that had forty seven.

1714
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,399
Speaker 1: There's forty five here, what are these things?

1715
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: And he's forty fifth and forty seventh president, so you've

1716
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,279
got forty five. So these are like older renditions of airships.

1717
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:51,640
Let me see if I can find better.

1718
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, who did that? What is this guy's name? Dude?

1719
01:28:57,279 --> 01:28:59,319
Somebody in the chat might know this guy's name. He's

1720
01:28:59,319 --> 01:29:00,000
got like a French name.

1721
01:29:01,119 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: Let me go to Daily Here we go, We'll go

1722
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,880
view this page the article about it Trump's airship appearing

1723
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,760
in one hundred year old sketchbook. Oh wait, I gotta

1724
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:15,399
share this screen hold on. Oh yeah, yeah, it's I

1725
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,520
haven't looked too deep into it, but I do as

1726
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,760
far as I've seen this as like a legit artist

1727
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,000
who legitimately made this one hundred years ago.

1728
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:27,399
Speaker 1: Okay, So Charles Dela Shoo that was his name.

1729
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 2: Charles delas Show, a Prussian immigrant who came to the

1730
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,079
US in eighteen fifty died in nineteen twenty three, mysteriously

1731
01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:39,520
contained the word Trump and even featured forty seven, the

1732
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,840
number of the president, and then forty five was in

1733
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:42,239
there too.

1734
01:29:42,319 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: I showed you that they.

1735
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 2: Go instantly into INGERSO Lockwoods book about Baron Trump. They

1736
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,760
don't even really delve into this painter. So you might

1737
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,359
have something there with that instinctual question you asked, because

1738
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,680
let's look up this Charles Del's shaw. I mean, I

1739
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,520
wonder if they'd just stuck it on him and said,

1740
01:29:59,640 --> 01:29:59,920
you know.

1741
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 4: I wonder, Yeah, you gotta. It's always it's always got

1742
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,560
to be very careful when we're living in the magic trick.

1743
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,600
Like the magic tricks, all those who control the levers

1744
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,640
of mainstream media and have for quite some time, so

1745
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,199
it's it is they're participating in the magic trick. So,

1746
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,720
but not to discard things that sound crazy just because

1747
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,439
they sound crazy, because they might actually be.

1748
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Here we go. You know what, dude, I think you're on.

1749
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,039
Speaker 2: Just look at this little is known about Charles Delshao's life.

1750
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:31,000
I want to know what Delshao means. What does that

1751
01:30:31,039 --> 01:30:32,960
word mean? Because I you know, a lot of times though,

1752
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:36,720
especially with people that are huh might be a joke, right,

1753
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,560
because especially with people's names that are faked or put

1754
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,119
in the stories like this, they'll use the name where

1755
01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:43,640
if you look into it, you're like, oh, the name

1756
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:44,760
means this, and it's like.

1757
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:46,159
Speaker 1: Perfectly aligned or whatever.

1758
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 2: All right, primary sources are scarce, it says, so, yeah,

1759
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,239
I don't know, man, interesting all right.

1760
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:55,239
Speaker 4: Well, not to be ignored. I'm gonna definitely look into

1761
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:55,640
this today.

1762
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,199
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you give me.

1763
01:30:57,159 --> 01:30:59,399
Speaker 4: Something more to add to my my spooky book.

1764
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,199
Speaker 2: Hit me up a byt whatever you find there and

1765
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,479
let everyone know where they can find you find your books.

1766
01:31:05,079 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Great wealth of information you have.

1767
01:31:07,119 --> 01:31:09,239
Speaker 2: I need to get some signed copies of books from you, bro,

1768
01:31:09,279 --> 01:31:11,039
because I really do think you're one of the best.

1769
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,239
And not to glady, but you're one of the probably

1770
01:31:13,319 --> 01:31:16,920
top thinkers I've ever seen like in our current age talking.

1771
01:31:17,279 --> 01:31:18,800
And I know, man, because I hear a lot of

1772
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,720
people act like they know some shit and talk a

1773
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,479
lot like bigger you know, big platforms, the whole deal

1774
01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:26,640
wealth of knowledge right here for sure.

1775
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you very much.

1776
01:31:28,319 --> 01:31:31,159
Speaker 4: No, thanks man, No, this is fun, dude, And just

1777
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,279
like having good conversation with somebody who knows their shit

1778
01:31:33,399 --> 01:31:35,359
is just such a pleasure. It's such an enjoyable love

1779
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:38,319
start of my day. And I'm looking forward to here

1780
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,560
to reading your book. I guess you're gonna put it

1781
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,000
out installments, so send them my way as well. I'd

1782
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,319
love to give you feedback and talk about players Republic

1783
01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:47,319
and play the more generally as much as you'd like.

1784
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,039
It's a absolutely a big passion for me look forward to.

1785
01:31:50,359 --> 01:31:51,880
So yeah, thank you. And for anybody who wants to

1786
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:56,439
pick up the books, Yeah, Rose, Crucian Golam, show them

1787
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,439
what this is, what to look for. It's Edgar Posts

1788
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,279
Final Mystery Is Volume three and other Tales of Raciosination

1789
01:32:01,359 --> 01:32:04,840
There with Alistair Crowley looking at you creepily over Sybyl's Cave,

1790
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,279
which is a location of one of Poe's lesser known

1791
01:32:09,279 --> 01:32:12,479
but important stories. That take you into the tapestry of

1792
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,880
something very evil, very ancient, that ran the witch covens

1793
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,840
that had penetrated into the colonies, and that Edgar Allen

1794
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,319
Poe was doing battle with before they killed him. So

1795
01:32:21,359 --> 01:32:24,000
there's that. And then again people saw already the cover

1796
01:32:24,079 --> 01:32:27,319
for volume one, there's also the clash of the two

1797
01:32:27,359 --> 01:32:31,119
America's book series going through the Venetian origins of the

1798
01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:34,079
British Empire and America's deep state. So how did the

1799
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:40,279
Venetian Anglo Venetian system penetrate into and create this deep

1800
01:32:40,279 --> 01:32:43,600
state apparatus for like the last three hundred years inside

1801
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,319
of the United States and Canada. All of that stuff.

1802
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 7: And the last thing I'll just say too is there's

1803
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:51,239
a book called that I did a few years back

1804
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:55,199
called Science and Shackles, Restoring Causality in a World of Chaos.

1805
01:32:55,279 --> 01:32:58,439
So for people who like this discussion around the how

1806
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,359
Darwin was concocted, Yeah, Darwin, actually have a chapter on Darwin,

1807
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,600
but how Isaac Newton was an artificial creation, how science

1808
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,239
really evolved in a healthy way and that was co

1809
01:33:09,319 --> 01:33:12,800
opted and destroyed by these royal society freaks and neo platonists.

1810
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 4: This book goes through a lot of that story there.

1811
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,159
So yeah, all those books are on Canadian Patriot dot org.

1812
01:33:21,319 --> 01:33:24,239
That's my main website. But it's not just Canadian. They

1813
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,239
don't let the name fool you. All of our documentaries

1814
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,520
are on there too. My wife's books and her work

1815
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,279
is also easy to find on that website. And lastly,

1816
01:33:33,399 --> 01:33:35,520
I have my substack, so I put up things every

1817
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,560
day on substack. Can check that Eric dot substack dot com.

1818
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be following that up.

1819
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, or maybe I did from last time,

1820
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:44,359
but I totally forgot.

1821
01:33:44,399 --> 01:33:45,359
Speaker 1: I'll be following that for sure.

1822
01:33:45,399 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 2: I just kind of launched a little substack too, just

1823
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,439
for a little bit, just a little practice in writing.

1824
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, awesome, thank you so much.

1825
01:33:52,319 --> 01:33:54,319
Speaker 2: And I'll be actually live for anybody that's still here,

1826
01:33:54,359 --> 01:33:56,520
any late joiners that are like, oh man, you guys

1827
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,920
are done already. I'll be live in fifteen minutes. We'll

1828
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,800
be getting into anthropics AI God called, if anybody wants

1829
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,760
to check that out. We're going to be deep diving

1830
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,000
into Terrence McKenna excellent institute.

1831
01:34:06,039 --> 01:34:07,119
Speaker 1: Now it all kind of connects.

1832
01:34:07,159 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: It's really a continuation of this connection conversation and now

1833
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:14,960
it all connects into the Silicon Valley. So the Theosophical

1834
01:34:15,079 --> 01:34:18,600
Technocracy continued in about twenty minutes. Thank you very much,

1835
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,279
Matt all right, well, hell yeah, dude, I look forward

1836
01:34:21,319 --> 01:35:00,640
to it. Thank you, guys, Bite seal it at