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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>kf I am six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good evening, Chris Maryland from O Kelly if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>six forty anytime on demand of the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 3>Phoch, good to.

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<v Speaker 2>See you, you too, man, Thanks, Buddy, Robert, good to

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<v Speaker 2>see it's been so long.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you aged horribly?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you looking?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not aged well, No, no, no, time has

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<v Speaker 2>not been kind to me, not at all. Although hey,

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<v Speaker 2>fun fact, I think you and I here to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a few more days together in August because I think

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<v Speaker 2>MO has some some vacation time built up.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's right. He does have

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<v Speaker 3>a vacation coming up. We get those.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he gets those, he gets he gets tawala, my man.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing? Man? Hey brother, I woke up

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<v Speaker 3>this morning. I'm fantastic, good, free, upright and ambulatory. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Complain right, yes, absolutely, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a that's a great point that you make,

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<v Speaker 2>is that sometimes we complain about the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really take stock of the blessings that we do have. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And and we'll talk a little bit later on about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in Texas and of course, as we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking with Mark Thompson the last segment, anybody that's

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<v Speaker 2>been through the wildfire disasters here locally.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that's the most recent one that we think of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's times like that that make us put perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>On anything else that's going on. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, I have a bad day at work and

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes I have to just kick kind of kick

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<v Speaker 2>myself and go yeah, but you know what, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a job. You know, you got to go to work today.

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<v Speaker 2>You weren't worried about are the bills going to be paid?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Because you got that job, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that. I love that you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you got up this morning. That's uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's half the battle. So good for you. Been

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<v Speaker 2>watching what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the raid through MacArthur Park was odd to see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of procession of ice agents that were going through

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<v Speaker 2>MacArthur Park and uh, horses and somebody. I didn't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but did somebody? Was there a tank in there too?

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<v Speaker 2>We had armored vehicles or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought. Man, we can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody imagined that when when people were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Trump and he was running for office and

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<v Speaker 2>he says we're gonna build a wall to pour them all,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people thought, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna clean up illegal immigration. And we kept hearing all

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<v Speaker 2>this rhetoric about Biden's open border policy, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>no open border policy.

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<v Speaker 3>There never was.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have a border, it was still being patrolled.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't we didn't fire CBP, nothing like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the complaint was that we were granting asylum requests to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that asked, right, and so people were freaked out

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<v Speaker 2>because they basically said, people who are trying to come

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<v Speaker 2>across our border have figured out how to play our system.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the political speech turned into open border policy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not an open border policy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that somebody figured out how do I get

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<v Speaker 2>across the bord or without having to sneak across and

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<v Speaker 2>they and they figured that out. So now what we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing is we're saying, forget it, we're gonna deport everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of people were behind this. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump got elected U for the second time based on

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<v Speaker 2>his immigration talk. I mean, there's this It really comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to a couple of things. The guy's a business owner,

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<v Speaker 2>and people say, oh, he's gonna be good for the

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<v Speaker 2>economy and uh. And then they said, well he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna take care of all this illegal immigration. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we're seeing it, and people at the time went,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's gonna look a little weird when you've

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<v Speaker 2>got armed agents that are taking children out of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not gonna play very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I made mention a year ago about how we we

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out over Elian Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that back in the nineties, guys, remember.

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<v Speaker 2>When, uh when, when we were we had to go

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<v Speaker 2>get Elian Gonzalez, a Cuban guy who came here right

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<v Speaker 2>and and Janet Reno caught all kinds of grief for uh,

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<v Speaker 2>these armed agents. And there was the photo that became

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly famous. And you haven't seen this if you were,

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe you were too young you didn't see, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't remember it simply being that one and

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically an armed agent who's holding a very large

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<v Speaker 2>weapon of war in the face of this I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was like eight years old at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>we went, oh my gosh, and we exploded and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to fly in America. We are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be cool with this when it starts

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<v Speaker 2>happening and mass and.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of are.

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<v Speaker 2>Although what we saw at MacArthur Park was I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was one step beyond what anybody imagined. And what

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<v Speaker 2>really hit home is when I saw somebody make mention

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<v Speaker 2>of God, imagine if Biden had done anything close to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you heard people talking about Byron excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>they talked about Biden the tyrant, Biden, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>was Biden the incompetent and Biden the mastermind, Biden the idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>He's somehow both. But just imagine if the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 2>had militarized public parks in red dates. Imagine the blowback.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine what would have gone on on Fox News, on Newsmax,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh yeah, they would have lost their minds. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet we go, well, you know, that's that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>voted for here, Well, we voted to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigrants, and b this is this is what it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to look like. Even Joe Rogan said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people imagine this. This is exactly what we were

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<v Speaker 2>told was going to happen. And then it happens and

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<v Speaker 2>people are stunned by it. So aside from the spectacle,

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<v Speaker 2>aside from the imagery, there are, aside from the human side,

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<v Speaker 2>the individuals who are dealing with, you know, where's my

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<v Speaker 2>loved one or the loved one who goes, how am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to see my kids again? These are obviously

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<v Speaker 2>very very personal, very dramatic issues, but we also have

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<v Speaker 2>an economic impact on this. California is feeling that now

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<v Speaker 2>we are being singled out because we're a blue state,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've got sanctuary sanctuary cities, and because it's really

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<v Speaker 2>popular for GOP politicians to poke at California and New York. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen that a good jillion times before. But the

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<v Speaker 2>real world implications are this, it's starting to have an

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<v Speaker 2>effect on the economy. Specifically, it's starting to have an

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<v Speaker 2>effect right here at home where we're trying to rebuild

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<v Speaker 2>from the wildfires. In fact, Katla was talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>it's slowing things down.

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<v Speaker 5>Realtor Brock Harris says, seems like this of immigration enforcement

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<v Speaker 5>operations in the LA area are impacting rebuilding efforts in

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<v Speaker 5>Altadena following January's wildfire. He describes federal agents recently visiting

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<v Speaker 5>a job site of one of his developer clients.

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<v Speaker 6>The ice agents visited looking for a particular person who

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't on the job site, who wasn't at work that day.

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<v Speaker 6>The next day, half the crew didn't show up to

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<v Speaker 6>spook to come whoo.

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<v Speaker 3>Half the crew didn't show up? How do you get

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<v Speaker 3>the house built?

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<v Speaker 2>To work?

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<v Speaker 5>And Harris says he's seeing the impact on local construction

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<v Speaker 5>more broadly.

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<v Speaker 6>Job sites camouflaging themselves, pulling dumpsters in from the street,

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<v Speaker 6>taking construction fences, hiding borda potties. Whether or not it's true,

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<v Speaker 6>they feel like these places might be targets and it's

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<v Speaker 6>making the workers less likely to come to work.

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<v Speaker 5>Another woman who lost her house in the Eton fire

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<v Speaker 5>tells us she's seeing an impact on her Alta Dina rebuild, too,

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<v Speaker 5>telling us by phone that ahead of immigration raids in SoCal,

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<v Speaker 5>twelve workers would come to her job daily. These days

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<v Speaker 5>it's three or four.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Mean, when hammers start swinging, we're not getting the houses

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<v Speaker 6>we need rebuilt in Altadena.

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<v Speaker 5>LA County Supervisor Catherine Barger, who represents this unincorporated area,

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<v Speaker 5>tells us in a statement some Alta Dina constituents have

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<v Speaker 5>shared that ice raids are slowing down their construction work.

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<v Speaker 5>It's disappointing to hear this and another compelling reason why

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<v Speaker 5>Congress needs to sponsor legislation that actually legitimizes and allows

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<v Speaker 5>people to work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that's not going to happen because the administration

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<v Speaker 2>for a while said, oh, well, you know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to prioritize construction, agriculture, all the jobs

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<v Speaker 2>that we think of as being more stereotypical for people

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<v Speaker 2>who are here without documents. But the Agriculture Secretary, Brooke Rollins,

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<v Speaker 2>has now said that millions of adult medicaid participants are

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<v Speaker 2>facing stricter work requirements under this new GOP, big beautiful bill,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can replace the foreign farm workers that are

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<v Speaker 2>being deported or I guess construction workers.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't worry if your.

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<v Speaker 2>House is not being built fast enough Alta Dina, because

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<v Speaker 2>one legged Grandma is coming to the rescue. Rollin said,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be no amnesty. Mass deportations are continuing, but

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<v Speaker 2>in a strategic way, we will move the workforce toward

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<v Speaker 2>automation and one hundred percent American participation.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a difference between.

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<v Speaker 2>Being able bodied and being able bodied for any job,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there's a big disconnect.

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<v Speaker 3>I've often thought about this. Guys, can we just be

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<v Speaker 3>straight here for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Our jobs are pretty great, right, I mean, if God forbid,

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<v Speaker 2>we were in a traffic accident we lost a leg,

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<v Speaker 2>we could still do radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Also, who wants to tell Brooke Rollins that nearly half

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<v Speaker 4>the jobs in the United States don't offer health coverage,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why those people need Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what she's saying is, yeah, but now you can

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<v Speaker 2>work and you get me your Medicaid. But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is the point is they're already working. I think

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<v Speaker 2>many of them are. Yeah, and that oh I sw

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<v Speaker 2>what you mean? They are working and so but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have insurance, which is why they've got the supplement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great point, great point, Mark so so.

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<v Speaker 2>But my I guess my question is how does someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has a disability, who may be able to do

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<v Speaker 2>office work, for instance, how does that person go to

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<v Speaker 2>the fields to do agriculture work.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't. They don't, I don't. If they have thought

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<v Speaker 3>about this, that's that's not weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now they don't know because I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing is you're just tapping into anger. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's people who are upset and they go, well, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>immigran it took mere job. And so they go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if we just got rid of the immigrants, that i'd

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<v Speaker 2>have my job back. Okay, well, why don't you go

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<v Speaker 2>do that job? Then why don't you go? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>want work construction? Well I can't because I've got this

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<v Speaker 2>other problem. Okay, well then who's gonna build the house?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you guys are right, there's we're not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>remember a few headlines about this. We had a few

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<v Speaker 2>incidences where people were protesting police, and then we had

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<v Speaker 3>I guess tagline ever. It fizzled.

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the police. You got a few

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<v Speaker 2>anarchists who do, but for the most part, nobody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the police. What generally people wanted

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<v Speaker 2>was police reform. They wanted a ability right. That was

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<v Speaker 2>look at things like what do they call it qualified immunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and they and they wanted to make sure that a

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<v Speaker 2>light was shown on bad officers. Now, I've always said

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<v Speaker 2>that body cams are an equalizer. Body cams protect good

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<v Speaker 2>people from bad cops, and they protect bad They protect

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<v Speaker 2>good cops from bad lawyers. Right, So with when you've

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<v Speaker 2>just three years ago only three percent of California Highway

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<v Speaker 3>Well now they say it's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got about a third of them right now,

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<v Speaker 2>wearing body cameras. I think this is great. This This

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<v Speaker 2>is really h officer's ability to counter whatever the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the TikTok is that's showing them behaving badly. Right, then

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<v Speaker 2>they can you have you have totality, you have context

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<v Speaker 2>been stories about this happening. It raises new questions and

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<v Speaker 2>think that's important too. So we want transparency. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the body camps in California. After the murder of George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, I don't know if you recall this, there

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<v Speaker 2>It, and California said, we need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>And so there was a law that was put forward

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<v Speaker 2>have a bachelor's degree. That law was later modified a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and it was said, Okay, officers have to

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<v Speaker 2>to create a program for higher education requirements.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason they set a bachelor's degree is that

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<v Speaker 2>stats show that if you have higher educated officers, you

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<v Speaker 2>officers on the street. So Assembly Member Jackie Irwin, who's

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<v Speaker 2>establish education standards based on recommendations that were made in

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<v Speaker 2>light of this bill from twenty twenty. Some law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>and criminal justice reform advocates don't like it. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like it is that her bill says you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have an associates or a bachelor's degree, but

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<v Speaker 3>Exceptions, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Within some of these exceptions that others are proposing as well,

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<v Speaker 2>have your associates degree in modern policing your bachelor's degree

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<v Speaker 2>in modern policing, and or you could have exemptions if you,

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<v Speaker 2>they moved to southern California, then they could join the

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<v Speaker 2>ped People are saying, wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the point in having requirements if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>create these loopholes. So that's one of the issues that

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<v Speaker 2>people are having. Another issue that people are having, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a very practical one, is hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>you're putting these requirements on here professional policing certificates or

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<v Speaker 2>associate's degrees or bachelor's degrees or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you do that, it decreases the pool of

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<v Speaker 2>people that we can hire. In fact, what they found

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<v Speaker 2>in the past is when they put requirements on applicants,

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<v Speaker 2>they found that the number of applicants was cut in half.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Luna, the LA Sheriff, wrote a letter about this

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<v Speaker 2>very thing, and he said that the sheriff's office once

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<v Speaker 2>required all applicants to have a bachelor's degree, but the

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<v Speaker 2>requirement was short lived because the office on immediate decline

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<v Speaker 2>and applicants by about fifty percent. So what we've done

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<v Speaker 2>now is we're saying, oh, we can't have high standards

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<v Speaker 2>because then we won't find enough people. All right, So

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<v Speaker 2>how do you find the right people and maintain the

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<v Speaker 2>standards If you're running any other business and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the government, I'm not talking about law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're running any other business. Let's say that you

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<v Speaker 2>for instance. All right, you're going to have certain requirements

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<v Speaker 2>that are necessary, certain educational standards. You don't want somebody

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<v Speaker 2>coming in as a programmer who doesn't know what they're

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<v Speaker 3>They don't. We don't need to teach somebody how the

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<v Speaker 2>We expect that there's a certain level of education that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's gonna have. If you're a nurse, we expect that

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a certain amount of education and a

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<v Speaker 2>nursing license. But with that comes some perks. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got a group that was screaming defund the police,

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<v Speaker 2>and that same group is saying and for the people

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<v Speaker 2>that are gonna be cops, you have to have these

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<v Speaker 2>high standards. All right, what's the trade off? Because if

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<v Speaker 2>you are requiring a professional degree, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay professional wages. You're gonna have to have upward mobility

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<v Speaker 2>within that job. If I have an MBA in order

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<v Speaker 2>to get my job as middle management, I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 2>an MBA so that I can be a middle manager

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life. I'm getting an MBA so

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<v Speaker 2>that I can be a middle manager and work my

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<v Speaker 2>way up the ladder. If you're requiring a professional degree

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<v Speaker 2>from peace officers, you're not gonna be able to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to pay them ninety thousand dollars a year. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to step up the amount of money that you're

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<v Speaker 2>paying those officers. So do you want a decreased number

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<v Speaker 2>of applicants. Obviously you don't. You want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>the best applicants possible. Here's what we know in any

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<v Speaker 2>other job. If you want the best, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for the best. You're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to require a professional degree but not raise that incentive

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<v Speaker 2>for being an officer without seeing the applications drop off.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work like that. So you want the best,

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<v Speaker 3>Pay him like they're the best.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that we are seeing in southern California, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's following a trend nationwide, has got to be music

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<v Speaker 2>to the ears of law enforcement. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what that is here just a moment. It's Chris Merril

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.

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<v Speaker 3>In from O Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand

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<v Speaker 1>from KFI AM six.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty gonname it Chris Merrily in from O Kelly, KFI

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty more stimulating talk. You can listen anytime

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just listening to our promo there about the

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<v Speaker 2>moist line. I got in trouble at my real job today.

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<v Speaker 2>So somebody brought in brownies and they asked how they were,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, and this is no joke, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like the best brownie I've ever had. It was amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, it is so moist it just falls

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<v Speaker 2>apart in my fingers. And I had one of the

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<v Speaker 3>The word moist. Women hate that word. I know they do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's such a weird word to hate, especially since that

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<v Speaker 4>was a compliment towards the baked good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're just like, I don't like to hear moist.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't ever say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But also she's the person in the office nobody likes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna sweat it too much. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Careful because that person can still go to HR.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, he said moist. That is just very offensive

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Like, I don't need that phone call, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need HR to go. You can't use the

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<v Speaker 2>word moist anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I hate that. Hey, I got good news. Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles is seeing fewer murders this year. We're down twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 7>Yay, yay.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on pace to see our best year since the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixties. Good job on not being so murdery people,

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<v Speaker 2>Well done all the way around. The decrease mirrors a

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<v Speaker 2>national trend, which some experts attribute to the COVID nineteen pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people believe the pandemic and the lockdowns upended the

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<v Speaker 2>routines and activities for many, So I guess they got

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<v Speaker 2>more murdery and then a society closer to its pre

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<v Speaker 2>tent pandemic form. Excuse me, homicide levels have dropped. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is about the pandemic that was

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<v Speaker 2>making us achilli. You know, when it first came out,

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<v Speaker 2>crime generally dropped across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was leaving the house.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, listen, I could go do my gang activity,

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<v Speaker 3>Right. But then we started getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Bored with following the rules and trying to flatten the curve,

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<v Speaker 2>and we said, ugh, these drugs aren't going to sell

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<v Speaker 2>themsels So we went back onto the street and we

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<v Speaker 2>started selling drugs and then killing people. According to the

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<v Speaker 2>really not just declines, but large declines, and across the

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<v Speaker 2>board declines. I mean it's everywhere and here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking at nineteen sixties level of murder. And I

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<v Speaker 2>should point out this is raw numbers, not just percentages.

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<v Speaker 2>So killings are way down. We're down to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixteen through the first half of the year, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred sixteen murders and that means I think fewer than

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<v Speaker 2>one a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Good job. Really, last year.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at almost one hundred and sixty people murdered

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of June, so fewer people. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>our population now versus the nineteen sixties is much greater,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that our rate is even lower. So that's great, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really fantastic, So good job on not killing people.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the issues though, is that if you do

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<v Speaker 2>go all murdering, you're probably not going to get caught. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>got about a fifty to fifty chance if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you murder somebody, about a fifty to fifty chance of

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<v Speaker 2>getting busted. Well should I should modify that. Well, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Half of America's murderers, they say, get away with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the headline. Half of America's murderers.

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<v Speaker 2>Get away with the killing, which seems somewhat bizarre. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I had audio on this. I guess I don't. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>yes I do. Why didn't I open this up? That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good question. Wait to go, Meryl.

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<v Speaker 8>More people are getting away with murder, based on shocking

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<v Speaker 8>figures published by The New York Times. According to the report,

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<v Speaker 8>the homicide clearance rate, a metric used by the FBI

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<v Speaker 8>to assess how many murders cops solve, was nearly fifty

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<v Speaker 8>eight percent in twenty twenty three. That makes the US

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<v Speaker 8>among the worst at solving murders.

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<v Speaker 3>What why? Germany and are we just better at committee murder.

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<v Speaker 8>Comparison consistently clears well over ninety percent of its homicide cases.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 8>Retired NYPD police officer Jillian Snyder has done her own

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<v Speaker 8>research and puts the rate of unsolved.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill Yeah, she did her own research. She watched some

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube videos. That's how you do your own research nowadays.

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<v Speaker 8>Puts the rate of unsolved killings in the United States

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<v Speaker 8>between fifty one and fifty two percent. Most of the

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<v Speaker 8>victims in that count young black and Latino men.

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<v Speaker 9>Which is mind boggling because fifty years ago, agencies for

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<v Speaker 9>solving upwards of ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Experts say there are a number of reasons why cases

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<v Speaker 8>go cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, like like we don't care about the victims because

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<v Speaker 2>they're people of color.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, all that can't be true.

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<v Speaker 8>More guns, more violence. A murder by a firearm is

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<v Speaker 8>harder to solve. Gang related crimes are also difficult to crack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do they not have so many gangs in Germany?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I can think of one that they had,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Add to that a lack of resources and staffing issues.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no way to think that a detective or investigator

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<v Speaker 9>can take on ten to fifteen new serious violent crimes

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<v Speaker 9>or homicides every month. That's way too much to be

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<v Speaker 9>able to dedicate the time and the resources to a

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<v Speaker 9>proper investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I watch I watch a lot of TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and my wife loves to watch true crime, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's studying and what I what I realize is

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<v Speaker 2>that each one of these crimes. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys ever watched like forty eight hours or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>right where they've we got to get a lead or

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<v Speaker 2>else this case, you know, the chances of it going cold,

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<v Speaker 2>double or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, by not by force, but by just walking by. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you mean. You know what I'm saying. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to watch the show with my wife, and

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<v Speaker 2>then and I realize they get a crime dropped in

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<v Speaker 2>their lap, and it's not like it's not like, Okay, well, uh,

493
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<v Speaker 2>we've got this murderer solve.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we'll have this wrapped up by dinner time so

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<v Speaker 3>we can tackle another one tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're juggling a dozen murders at once, so

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<v Speaker 2>that sucks.

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<v Speaker 8>Distrust between cops and the communities they serve is another

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<v Speaker 8>obstacle to solving crimes.

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<v Speaker 9>There are times that people don't want to work with

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<v Speaker 9>the police. They might have had a bad encounter, or

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<v Speaker 9>they might have known someone that had a bad encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this comes back to why you're seeing people

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<v Speaker 2>of color and communities of color are affected by unsolved

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<v Speaker 2>murders more than other places because they're skeptical of cops.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why, what could have possibly happened throughout history

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<v Speaker 2>that would make them skeptical.

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<v Speaker 9>But the police cannot effectively do their job and they

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<v Speaker 9>can't get justice or victims without community support.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, there are some potential solutions to help combat violent crime.

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<v Speaker 7>Law enforcement and researchers suggest increased resources, more detectives, inner

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<v Speaker 7>agency cooperation, and also the use of modern technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, modern thing. AI is going to fix the crime

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<v Speaker 2>for us. Okay, good, We've got AI will fix everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So tired of hearing about AI. I'm such a fuddy duddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the only one that's just going I just

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to retirement before I have to learn

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<v Speaker 2>everything about AI?

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<v Speaker 4>You have to.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Mark's pants tightened up.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, AI is going to learn for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do anything, I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just imagining when the Internet came about from

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<v Speaker 2>my parents and they were in their mid forties, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking, you know, my parents were very forward thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also knew a lot of people who were

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<v Speaker 2>in their forties and fifties the Internet came along and

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<v Speaker 2>they went, I don't this is completely foreign to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is It's like learning a whole new language. Liked,

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<v Speaker 2>how much do I have to understand this before I

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<v Speaker 2>get to retirement. I'm just like, I just got to

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<v Speaker 2>get to retirement before I have to let chat GPT

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<v Speaker 2>take over everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the same people who still use the post office.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll just mail it in. No, no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm very bad. I'm great with the Internet. That's

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<v Speaker 2>great everything that was cool in the nineties and the

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands, Like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tear apart a computer and put it together

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<v Speaker 2>in ten minutes. I mean, I'm all there. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you asked me to create prompts to make chat GPT

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<v Speaker 2>make your job simpler, It's like, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea how I'm gonna do this, no clue.

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<v Speaker 10>It is so crazy how easy it is though, really

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<v Speaker 10>to literally like if you need to draft and I've

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<v Speaker 10>had to draft documents to the staff that are work

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<v Speaker 10>at the school, and just you just type in, say

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<v Speaker 10>need to draft policy on tardiness, okay, and it just

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<v Speaker 10>literally will write it out for you. Put in a

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<v Speaker 10>few and they may ask you for some details. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>and you provide that necessary information and Bam, You've got

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<v Speaker 10>a legally hr qualified document in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>That I could do right that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comfortable of that if you said, hey, can you

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<v Speaker 2>write I need a document? Can you have a chat

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<v Speaker 2>GPT help you with that? Yeah, that's cool. I can

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But it's for instance, you saw it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to take you too far behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>But our show rundown, for instance, I have a very

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<v Speaker 2>specific way I like to have my show run down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have tried in the past to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me the top fifteen stories affecting the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>people in Southern California, and it's like, okay, people in

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<v Speaker 2>Southern California care about and it will give me something

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<v Speaker 2>from November of last year, or it'll say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be like Jerry Brown is really working on that

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<v Speaker 2>bullet train, and it's like, come on, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think that it's necessarily going to work

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<v Speaker 2>for me right now. Maybe that's my frustration that anything

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to do with it, I run into a

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<v Speaker 2>brick wall and I go, this is not accurate information.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not current information. It's certainly not in a format

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<v Speaker 2>that I want.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you should go with your gut on this, Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>And let me just cite exhibit A here and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>rest my case. Apparently Elon Musk's Grock AI went full

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<v Speaker 4>Nazi yesterday and called it to all that mecha Hitler

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<v Speaker 4>and had to be shut off. So maybe a little

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<v Speaker 4>skepticism about the AI he mark that goes Hitler, I

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<v Speaker 4>am not. What I'm saying is that goes into the

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<v Speaker 4>person and or people behind the design.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Like, if you have someone who is pro Hitler putting

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<v Speaker 10>in the information, you're going to get mecha Hitler spitting back.

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<v Speaker 3>Out at you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, one little sighile and now everybody is pro Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>Cat GPT, can you give me an image of a

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<v Speaker 2>proper salute and it goes out the yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, mecha hit Oh I hadn't seen this before.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to the responses about Hitler, Groc also referred

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<v Speaker 2>to Israel as that klingy x still whining about the

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<v Speaker 2>Holocaust and called itself mecha Hitler. Embracing my inner mecha

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler is the only way. One Grock response read uncensored

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<v Speaker 2>truth bombs overwoke lobotomies. If that saves the world count

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<v Speaker 2>me in. Let's keep the brigade at Bay. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>gra just plug right into Elon's head, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe pump the brakes on the AI. Yeah, all right, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see what the platform is for

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<v Speaker 2>the New America Party. That'll be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I can't wait for it to write up the

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<v Speaker 3>entire basis for that.

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<v Speaker 2>California is saying no way to the White House because

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<v Speaker 2>the White House says stop letting dudes play women's sports.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like its a little more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next. Chris Merril AM six forty Live Everywhere on

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<v Speaker 3>the iHeart Radio app. In from O Kelly Tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Marriland from O Kelly Tonight, KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>More stimulating talk listen anytime on demand on the iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>Radio app. We've got the Twall and I are just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about AI off the air here, and we've got

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<v Speaker 2>another story coming up at about an hour a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit after nine o'clock, we'll discuss chat GPT psychosis. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some people who are using chat Toula was just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how much time it can save you if you

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<v Speaker 2>know how to use it. But some people are using

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<v Speaker 2>it as more of a conversation piece and it's making

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<v Speaker 2>them nuts, like really terrifyingly crazy, involuntary type commitment sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's coming up here at nine o'clock. Did want

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<v Speaker 3>to make mention of this.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump repeatedly threatening to withhold federal funding from California

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<v Speaker 2>if we don't cooperate with a number of his initiatives,

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<v Speaker 2>including changing the way that we treat trans athletes. Katla

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<v Speaker 2>with the story.

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<v Speaker 11>President Trump's Secretary of Education Linda McMahon is threatening more

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<v Speaker 11>legal action after California refused to ban transgender athletes from

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<v Speaker 11>school sports. McMahon said on X Today that state leaders

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<v Speaker 11>will be hearing from US Attorney General Pam Bondi. The

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<v Speaker 11>California Department of Education said Monday that it refused the

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<v Speaker 11>Trump administration's demands to revoke policies on transgender inclusion and

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<v Speaker 11>apologize to cisgender female athletes. The California legislature passed a

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<v Speaker 11>law back in twenty to thirteen that allows student athletes

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<v Speaker 11>to play on teams that match their gender identity. The

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<v Speaker 11>Trump administration claims that violates federal anti discrimination law and

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<v Speaker 11>is threatening to withhold federal funding.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, California, there's an easy way around this.

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<v Speaker 2>You just say that you did create a policy, and

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<v Speaker 2>you put it on Pambondi's desk right next to the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein files, and she should be able to find that

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<v Speaker 2>they're right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, thank you, see what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more about the Epstein files or the non

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<v Speaker 2>files coming up here after eight o'clock. But while you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the administration saying we're going to withhold funding, not

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<v Speaker 2>going gonna do crap this, we're going to withhold funding nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so tired of this argument about how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to withhold funding. We're gonna hold tax dollars hostage. The

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<v Speaker 2>federal government isn't gonna hold tax dollars hostage any more

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<v Speaker 2>than we can hold our tax dollars from going to

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't it be nice if we could.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't it be great if California, who pays in more

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<v Speaker 2>than any other state, could simply say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna send our money to the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>and Screw Kentucky and forget West Virginia, and sorry, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on your own. These are all states that take

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<v Speaker 2>more than they pay in. Wouldn't it be great if

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<v Speaker 2>we could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't.

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<v Speaker 3>And the federal government also.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't gonna be able to say we've decided we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna allow this or that or the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is how.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why when Lenna McMahon says, you're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 2>from Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, that's how it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about threats of withholding moneys. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>the administration's tried to do this in a few different aspects,

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<v Speaker 2>but we end up suing the administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying you can't withhold our money.

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<v Speaker 2>And the administration says, no, we're gonna do it if

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<v Speaker 2>there is a legal dispute over state law versus federal law.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the courts are for, right And look, the

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<v Speaker 2>administration has packed the court to their favor already, so

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't be afraid of filing these lawsuits. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>they are suing California over our transgender athlete policies.

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<v Speaker 3>California is refusing to comply.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna sue back, and it's going to work itself out.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, it'll be interesting to see which politicians

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<v Speaker 2>who are running for president continue to moderate on the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder who I could be talking about. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Marland from Okelly KFI AM six forty. We're live

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