Speaker 1: I'm Jason Colvin, I'm d Graves.
Speaker 2: Give us five minutes and we will give you the fire.
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't
Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We
are here talking about the lyrics of we Didn't Start
the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes
at a time, which is about to link with the song,
so it works out kind of nicely. So please join
us as we dive into some new lyrics today.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, So here are the topics that we're
going to be covering today.
Speaker 1: Today, we're talking about Communist Block. Roy Cohne and Juan
Puran Communist Block. All right, Dee, what can you tell
me about Communist Block? So, the Communist Block, also known
as the Eastern Bloc, is a coalition of communist states
that arose after World War Two. During World War two,
technically the Soviets were our allies, but afterwards there was
a lot of dividing up of things, and what was
included in that was countries. And what we said to
Stalin was, we just want to make sure that they
have elections, that they're free and fair, and so Stalin said,
communist communists, communists communists, that's not free and fair, and
I don't know what is. So here's the interesting. They
called this the Eastern Bloc, and they also often called
it the Second World. The Western Bloc was frequently called
the First World, and then the third World was what
they referred the non aligned countries to. And that's where
we get this term third world countries. Interesting. In Western Europe,
the term Eastern Bloc or Communist Bloc generally referred to
the Soviet and Central and Eastern European countries in the
comiccone which was East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria
and Albania. And in Asia, the Eastern Bloc was comprised
of Mongolia, Vietnam, laos Kempuchia, North Korea, South Yemen, Syria
and China. In the Americas, the countries aligned with the
Soviet Union included Cuba, and for limited periods also included
Nicaragua and Granada. Well, can you tell me about Roy Cohne?
Speaker 2: All Right? Roy Kohane was a famous American lawyer.
Speaker 1: I feel like you should know.
Speaker 2: This guy is known for his role in the McCarthy hearings.
He assisted in the investigations of the suspected communists in
the entertainment and public realm. He rose to prominence as
the US Department of Justice prosecutor at the espionage trial
of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
Speaker 1: We talked about past episode. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: During his career, his other clients included George Steinbrenner, who
is the owner of the New York Yankees, mafia bosses
including John Gotti, and the one and only Donald Trump.
Donald Trump's quote about him said, if you need somebody
to get vicious, you hire Roy Cohne. Also, he was
cited by President Trump as advising Trump to never apologize.
They will see it as a sign of weakness. So
I guess we can blame him this back at Roy
cut a little bit. In nineteen eighty six, he was
disbarred for unethical conduct for attempting to defraud a dying
client by forcing the client to sign over his fortune.
So he ended up dying of aids at age fifty
nine in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: He's one of those ninety nine percent of lawyers that
give us one percent a bad name.
Speaker 2: All right, Dee, Well, can you tell me about Juan Perone,
don't cry for me.
Speaker 1: Argentina. Juan Peron was a leader of Argentina. He had
married a young lady early in his career, but she
ended up passing away from cervical cancer just at the
age of thirty eight. But she had been a big
help to him during the time that they were married
by translating leadership books from English into Spanish for him
to be able to study how to be a good leader.
One of his influences also Benito Mussolini. Now, he himself
was more on the socialist side of things, but he
believed that being a dictator type leader was the best
way to maintain control of a country. Now, his fame
rose when he was leader of the labor Cabinet in
Argentina and there was a gigantic earthquake. He had to
mobilize people to try to get the money to rebuild
this town, and one thing he did was to enlist
the help of celebrities, and one of those celebrities was
Eva or Evida Peron, who was a big radio star
at the time. Vita and she came into his office
and basically said, I would love to do whatever I
can to help charity and do more. And he said,
I felt like her words were reaching out and grabbing me,
and I fell in love with her at that point. Now,
obviously there's a big musical about their relationship, and there's,
you know, a lot of questions. He was forty nine
when they met, she was twenty five. She's also beautiful. Yes,
that's true. Even though a lot of the political power
believed Ivida was a gold digger and manipulative, she was
also very well known for helping the poor. She was
a big mover in women's suffrage. But then she too,
oddly enough, died of cervical cancer. They believe that that
could be because he carried a virus that he gave
to them, causing that cervical cancer. Later after she died,
he preserved her body. He loved her so much. But
of course he was ultimately ejected from power and they
got rid of her body as well. Couldn't find it
for thirteen years. He ultimately got remarried during that time,
but continued to look for her body. Found out from
a good source that it was buried in this mismarked grave.
Got it dug up. He brought her body to his
living room and would have his wife comb her hair
every day to make sure that it didn't get tangled up.
My gosh, it's a little bit weird. Yeah, so there
you go. That is one problem. Okay, guys, that does
it for today's episode. Join us next time for five
minutes of fire.