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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Colvin, I'm d Graves.

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Speaker 2: Give us five minutes and we will give you the fire.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We

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are here talking about the lyrics of we Didn't Start

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the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes

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at a time, which is about to link with the song,

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so it works out kind of nicely. So please join

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us as we dive into some new lyrics today.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, So here are the topics that we're

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going to be covering today.

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Speaker 1: Today, we're talking about Communist Block. Roy Cohne and Juan

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Puran Communist Block. All right, Dee, what can you tell

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me about Communist Block? So, the Communist Block, also known

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as the Eastern Bloc, is a coalition of communist states

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that arose after World War Two. During World War two,

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technically the Soviets were our allies, but afterwards there was

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a lot of dividing up of things, and what was

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included in that was countries. And what we said to

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Stalin was, we just want to make sure that they

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have elections, that they're free and fair, and so Stalin said,

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communist communists, communists communists, that's not free and fair, and

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I don't know what is. So here's the interesting. They

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called this the Eastern Bloc, and they also often called

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it the Second World. The Western Bloc was frequently called

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the First World, and then the third World was what

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they referred the non aligned countries to. And that's where

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we get this term third world countries. Interesting. In Western Europe,

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the term Eastern Bloc or Communist Bloc generally referred to

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the Soviet and Central and Eastern European countries in the

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comiccone which was East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria

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and Albania. And in Asia, the Eastern Bloc was comprised

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of Mongolia, Vietnam, laos Kempuchia, North Korea, South Yemen, Syria

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and China. In the Americas, the countries aligned with the

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Soviet Union included Cuba, and for limited periods also included

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Nicaragua and Granada. Well, can you tell me about Roy Cohne?

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Speaker 2: All Right? Roy Kohane was a famous American lawyer.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you should know.

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Speaker 2: This guy is known for his role in the McCarthy hearings.

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He assisted in the investigations of the suspected communists in

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the entertainment and public realm. He rose to prominence as

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the US Department of Justice prosecutor at the espionage trial

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of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

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Speaker 1: We talked about past episode. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: During his career, his other clients included George Steinbrenner, who

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is the owner of the New York Yankees, mafia bosses

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including John Gotti, and the one and only Donald Trump.

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Donald Trump's quote about him said, if you need somebody

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to get vicious, you hire Roy Cohne. Also, he was

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cited by President Trump as advising Trump to never apologize.

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They will see it as a sign of weakness. So

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I guess we can blame him this back at Roy

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cut a little bit. In nineteen eighty six, he was

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disbarred for unethical conduct for attempting to defraud a dying

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client by forcing the client to sign over his fortune.

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So he ended up dying of aids at age fifty

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nine in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those ninety nine percent of lawyers that

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give us one percent a bad name.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dee, Well, can you tell me about Juan Perone,

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don't cry for me.

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Speaker 1: Argentina. Juan Peron was a leader of Argentina. He had

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married a young lady early in his career, but she

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ended up passing away from cervical cancer just at the

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age of thirty eight. But she had been a big

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help to him during the time that they were married

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by translating leadership books from English into Spanish for him

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to be able to study how to be a good leader.

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One of his influences also Benito Mussolini. Now, he himself

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was more on the socialist side of things, but he

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believed that being a dictator type leader was the best

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way to maintain control of a country. Now, his fame

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rose when he was leader of the labor Cabinet in

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Argentina and there was a gigantic earthquake. He had to

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mobilize people to try to get the money to rebuild

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this town, and one thing he did was to enlist

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the help of celebrities, and one of those celebrities was

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Eva or Evida Peron, who was a big radio star

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at the time. Vita and she came into his office

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and basically said, I would love to do whatever I

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can to help charity and do more. And he said,

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I felt like her words were reaching out and grabbing me,

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and I fell in love with her at that point. Now,

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obviously there's a big musical about their relationship, and there's,

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you know, a lot of questions. He was forty nine

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when they met, she was twenty five. She's also beautiful. Yes,

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that's true. Even though a lot of the political power

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believed Ivida was a gold digger and manipulative, she was

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also very well known for helping the poor. She was

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a big mover in women's suffrage. But then she too,

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oddly enough, died of cervical cancer. They believe that that

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could be because he carried a virus that he gave

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to them, causing that cervical cancer. Later after she died,

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he preserved her body. He loved her so much. But

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of course he was ultimately ejected from power and they

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got rid of her body as well. Couldn't find it

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for thirteen years. He ultimately got remarried during that time,

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but continued to look for her body. Found out from

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a good source that it was buried in this mismarked grave.

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Got it dug up. He brought her body to his

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living room and would have his wife comb her hair

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every day to make sure that it didn't get tangled up.

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My gosh, it's a little bit weird. Yeah, so there

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you go. That is one problem. Okay, guys, that does

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it for today's episode. Join us next time for five

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minutes of fire.