Speaker 1: Page. He found their pranks childish and unimpressive. He said,
Speaker 1: I think somebody's playing games with us. Perhaps they are
Speaker 1: a civilization of clowns. Well, they have this trickster element
Speaker 1: to them, and we just had to show about are
Speaker 1: the nephilim? Are the clowns like portraying some kind of nephilim.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that he called them clowns and like tricksters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of I mean all that.
Speaker 3: It seems like all the pagan pantheons have a trickster
Speaker 3: element to it. I mean, of course Satan is a
Speaker 3: form of trickster, but it's slightly different.
Speaker 2: You know, it's.
Speaker 3: To mimic creation and then laugh at your attempts to accomplish, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Shakespeare and king Lear is a pagan play.
Speaker 3: But in king Lear he says, we are but playthings
Speaker 3: to the gods. They kill us for their sport. And
Speaker 3: a lot of the movie, like a lot of the
Speaker 3: movies about Greek and Roman gods.
Speaker 2: You know, you have these.
Speaker 3: Clay figurines'es clay because it's human clay, dust to dust,
Speaker 3: and you have the gods on Olympus kind of squashing
Speaker 3: the people just for fun, So it sort of makes sense.
Speaker 3: But it is also the thing we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 3: like creating an atmosphere of competition amongst your followers. You know,
Speaker 3: who's going to go the furthest and reveal the mask
Speaker 3: or break through the mask, break on through to the
Speaker 3: other side to find the truth behind the cosmic joke.
Speaker 2: It's also chaos. It's just chaotic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Chapter five actually is entitled behind the Mask and
Speaker 1: going further into you know, the Cult of the Nine
Speaker 1: because so many devotees of this call, including Gene Rodberry,
Speaker 1: which is Star Trek is all based on and I
Speaker 1: also you've got NASA, You've got CIA, you got media professionals,
Speaker 1: all of these people who take this very seriously. So
Speaker 1: are you ready or ready? Round five?
Speaker 2: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: According to the Keys of Enoch, what is the only
Speaker 1: race that is the indigenous to Earth?
Speaker 2: The Altians? Nos?
Speaker 1: No, the only race that is indigenous to Earth?
Speaker 2: Oh I don't know, the Alanians.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, everyone else is like space bating is except
Speaker 1: like yeah.
Speaker 2: Now that's true. Yeah, hell yeah, that's that's that's true.
Speaker 1: Hey, next question, maybe investigation researching psychic abilities did Puhark
Speaker 1: claim to have been a part of in nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 1: This is kind of obscure. It's got a funny name though.
Speaker 2: Let's see Navy Navy Philadelphia experiment was navy.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, I don't know what is it?
Speaker 1: Penguin?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's right here, right here, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, question you guys. I was like, Jamie, don't
Speaker 3: be hard on me. Okay, you don't give me four
Speaker 3: four questions per chapter. And I was looking at things
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, here's John Marx. Should give
Speaker 3: me a question about John Marx.
Speaker 2: I can get the right and now it's that is
Speaker 2: Project Penguin.
Speaker 1: Well I thought that would stick out because it sounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it sticks out, except there's four billion terms
Speaker 3: in this There's so much in the book, like I mean,
Speaker 3: like like subproject fifty eight. Okay, fine, like I can
Speaker 3: get that, you know, Gordon Wasson Jacques Valet is mentioned
Speaker 3: in this chapter, but like like Wallace was the follower
Speaker 3: of the mystic Nicholas roe Rich.
Speaker 2: Is that the next question?
Speaker 1: What famous MK ultra scientists worked at the Army Chemical
Speaker 1: Center with Pooh Harrik?
Speaker 2: Was it Gottlieb? Yes, yes, Okay, you.
Speaker 1: Got one, all right. Next question, what Russian mystic convinced
Speaker 1: Vice President Henry Wallace to incorporate the Masonic great steal
Speaker 1: on the design of the dollar bill?
Speaker 2: Was that Bovotsky?
Speaker 3: No, you just said Nicholas ro Rich. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: when I hear Russian.
Speaker 2: Russian? Missing the last question, ron, I sort of got
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: What did the Eslin Institute? Where did the Esselin Institute
Speaker 1: get its name?
Speaker 2: Daniel Esslin? Now, I mmm, I don't know where they
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: The institute was founded in nineteen sixty four on land
Speaker 1: formally inhabited by the Esslin Indian tribe.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, you got two? Okay, you ready? I did
Speaker 2: always confuse though the author Daniel.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: What I always confused Daniel Esslin with Esselin Institute?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, A long time ago.
Speaker 1: Anyway, What are you going for? Mars? Trips? Furniture roadster? Whammy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got another arc? Hell yeah, it's nice. I got
Speaker 2: two of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can get one for Christmas?
Speaker 2: You're ready? All right?
Speaker 3: Give me that one million dollars and there you go.
Speaker 3: I want some Daddy coin, all right, I got another
Speaker 3: trip to Mars. Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to Mars. You'll be recycled into the
Speaker 1: Great Goo. All right, I'm excited. You're going to Egypt
Speaker 1: for the spall package. You've got the trip to Mars,
Speaker 1: You've got two arc of the Covenants. Okay, you're doing
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is this is called Behind the Mask Cults
Speaker 1: of the Nine page one. Okay, So here talking about
Speaker 1: how they're teachings the Nine have helped shape our cultural
Speaker 1: concepts of space, science, fictions, missions, space mistion, space missions.
Speaker 1: The Teachings of the Nine emphasize there are many civilizations
Speaker 1: throughout the galaxy, some of whom are banded together in
Speaker 1: a star Trek like federation.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And then Spectra was the conscious computer which early Uri
Speaker 1: Geller was in contact with. They called them on the
Speaker 1: phone from the future, remember that story. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: here's where it gets interesting. So the Keys of Enoch
Speaker 1: and Serious Mystery are really big tomes in this subject,
Speaker 1: and they are talking about Hoova, who, according to them,
Speaker 1: the Jewish race was created by Hoova.
Speaker 2: That makes me think of jay Z Yeah, Hova, Right,
Speaker 2: So that's.
Speaker 1: The aliens that creates Jews or the Hoova. And then
Speaker 1: the second Coming they say will take place as part
Speaker 1: of the mass landing when Jesus will arrive as the
Speaker 1: Jewish Messiah. There are, it is claimed, secret records of
Speaker 1: Jesus hidden in Egypt and Abriel. At the proper time,
Speaker 1: there will be a correlation of finding these records within
Speaker 1: six months of each other. And then mankind's genetic evolution
Speaker 1: has been interfered with by dark forces. So we need
Speaker 1: some kind of fixing upgrade. We need like a tech
Speaker 1: support for humanity. Here in chapter five, what do you
Speaker 1: think about that?
Speaker 3: I think that I remember On the next page they
Speaker 3: talked about if I can find it, they talked about
Speaker 3: how they said it was the second Coming.
Speaker 2: But then on the I think, oh, here it is.
Speaker 3: On the next page they talked about the others, and
Speaker 3: it's also described as they're the followers of Satan the Beast.
Speaker 2: So, by the way, the keys of Enoch and Enoch.
Speaker 3: On the next one, it talks about the assumption that
Speaker 3: there are fallen It's like Alex says, but the fallen ones,
Speaker 3: the fallen ones who worshiped, who are followers of their
Speaker 3: master Satan, who's very real. I want to kill you
Speaker 3: in your face, he says. He says, the assumption they
Speaker 3: are falling ones with him the rights that should not
Speaker 3: bread is insidious. And in such a seminal book, get
Speaker 3: its seminal Pennsberme seems to be a little more disquiety.
Speaker 3: And then he talks about the I don't want to
Speaker 3: say the term, let's say the great the big thing
Speaker 3: that happened in the twentieth century with a group of
Speaker 3: people in the forties was an act of He says,
Speaker 3: it was a selfless act of sacrifice to make us
Speaker 3: all aware that evil people existed. And then Tom and
Speaker 3: Tom shares with many the misconception that the thing involved
Speaker 3: only that group of people. Of course, there were many
Speaker 3: others that were involved in that group of people. I
Speaker 3: wrote a note what do you who is your audience here?
Speaker 3: And genetic programming, and it goes on and talking about
Speaker 3: the White Brotherhood and the and the Battle of Armageddon.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's funny because the book there's
Speaker 3: so much. There's so much to decipher in the book
Speaker 3: that it becomes less an act of of analyzing what
Speaker 3: the various motives and origins of the stuff are. And
Speaker 3: then it starts to become like there's a messing about
Speaker 3: the I don't know what I'm trying to say here,
Speaker 3: the skepticism of any spirituality in this pointing towards biologics
Speaker 3: as they're saying. Now, Yeah, so that's kind of one
Speaker 3: of the messages in the book. It's like, oh, you
Speaker 3: should be skeptical of religion in general because it's a
Speaker 3: form of mind control, which is not.
Speaker 2: Which is.
Speaker 3: Even crazier thing to get out of the book than
Speaker 3: a lot of the input in the book. Because whenever
Speaker 3: the authors, whenever the authors talk about Christianity, and this
Speaker 3: is another problem I have with books like this that
Speaker 3: when they talk about especially when they mentioned Christianity, they
Speaker 3: always throw in these terms like the the totalitarian aspect
Speaker 3: of and the the the the oppressive aspect of the religion,
Speaker 3: you know, and one needs to be spiritually free, you know,
Speaker 3: we're all one, you know, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3: But I think that built into a book like this,
Speaker 3: and built into this sort of if it's a system,
Speaker 3: like all the people that are involved on this big
Speaker 3: giant like ort cloud of people and systems and beliefs
Speaker 3: and research and all of this stuff, there's this deniability
Speaker 3: built into it all so that one of the one
Speaker 3: of the problems like with that s the.
Speaker 2: People at SRI.
Speaker 3: They continuously talk about, like how Puudolph and Russell targ
Speaker 3: and what they mentioned is that like they're doing this research,
Speaker 3: they're funded by legitimate people, but no one will take
Speaker 3: them seriously. And they want to They want to expose
Speaker 3: that and they want to be taken seriously as psionic researchers.
Speaker 3: But the problem is that built into that is a
Speaker 3: kind of craziness because it's crazy stuff to be going into.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't make the thing crazy. I mean, it
Speaker 3: is crazy, but that doesn't mean it's not real, Like
Speaker 3: especially the I mean I think that astral projection and
Speaker 3: all this stuff. I think that they did that stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's demonic. When you're out of body, you are
Speaker 3: leaving room in your body for something else.
Speaker 2: To inhabit it.
Speaker 3: I believe that, but that doesn't mean that it never
Speaker 3: had that they never did this stuff. And of course
Speaker 3: people are going to think they're crazy. But that's one
Speaker 3: of the things that intelligence does is use this people
Speaker 3: that they can deny or throw away to have stability
Speaker 3: in the system.
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And well, keep in mind these are the people
Speaker 1: who were skeptical of the you know, the Da Vinci
Speaker 1: Code and stuff like that, so they are always trying
Speaker 1: to make things more mundane and scientific. But yeah, they're well,
Speaker 1: not the authors, but the people they're talking about are
Speaker 1: incorporating Christianity into this new religion of the future. Right,
Speaker 1: So they're like picking and choosing, and they're saying, what
Speaker 1: we're talking about is the truth of all of the religions,
Speaker 1: which is aliens, right, And the Nine's basic message is
Speaker 1: like the reason they have to make contact is that
Speaker 1: something has gone wrong with our genetic programming and they
Speaker 1: need to come back and like fix it with an
Speaker 1: upgrade or something like that.
Speaker 3: Do you remember an heretic He kind of that's one
Speaker 3: of the points of that movie. Heretic He kind of
Speaker 3: mentions that, right, he's.
Speaker 2: Making these.
Speaker 3: Faulty, pseudo faulty arguments about religion that she counters in
Speaker 3: the movie. I thought this was kind of refreshing in
Speaker 3: the movie. He's he makes that argument about how all
Speaker 3: religions have a messianic figure, and he talks about Horace
Speaker 3: and Osiris and how they preceded Christian sanity, and and
Speaker 3: then she counter argues that well, three of the four
Speaker 3: things you just mentioned were post Christ, and Horace didn't
Speaker 3: have this. He had two of the things, but then
Speaker 3: the third one he didn't have. So he goes to
Speaker 3: the debt, you know, he dies, but then he doesn't
Speaker 3: come back as Christ does. So you're conflating the arguments.
Speaker 3: But it's sort of the same thing that happens in
Speaker 3: a lot of these that, like you were saying that
Speaker 3: all of the you know, it ends up being the
Speaker 3: sort of scientismic New Age spiritual religion where we're all
Speaker 3: one in a great cosmic brotherhood, I.
Speaker 1: Guess, And that's why Freemasonry is perfect for because it's
Speaker 1: incorporating all of the elements, even Cabbala, even Mormonism, Judaism.
Speaker 1: They even say that, you know, the Aliens come back
Speaker 1: for New Jerusalem with the USA capital in the middle
Speaker 1: of the word. So it's crazy, he said. Her Tech,
Speaker 1: who wrote The Keys of Enoch the Space Jews right
Speaker 1: said that there's going to be a future upheaval. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be a galactic war and a house cleaning that
Speaker 1: is being completed throughout the universe, a war that will
Speaker 1: also be manifested on Earth with the coming apocalypse followed
Speaker 1: by a golden age in which the new form of
Speaker 1: government will arise. The lesser brotherhoods of Light who work
Speaker 1: with the younger spiritual teachers of Earth are now being
Speaker 1: forced out of their positions of power so that the
Speaker 1: greater forces of light will externalize on this plane. So
Speaker 1: whenever you talk about like cleansing, purifying, purging, those are
Speaker 1: kind of keywords to like tip you off that they
Speaker 1: are talking about like depopulation and mass byoff right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And not only that they are on this like the
Speaker 1: totalitarian side of things. You think aliens would be pretty hippie,
Speaker 1: but they're not, right, They are like total totalitarians. They
Speaker 1: are totally for like a government ruled by secret societies.
Speaker 1: But the New Age is a huge part of this,
Speaker 1: and everybody is going to have to be initiated or
Speaker 1: enveloped into these anglomeration of religion.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we're really nice.
Speaker 3: We're gonna make drum circles full of Pleadian dust. We're
Speaker 3: gonna kill everybody.
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. You're going to Mars right one way.
Speaker 3: Well, you notice also in a lot of space movies,
Speaker 3: just as an example, two things that space movies always do.
Speaker 3: They always are doing experiments in space, but they end
Speaker 3: up fixing a nuke satellite.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a weapon.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is they're in the sleep pods,
Speaker 3: and the sleep pods almost always get turned.
Speaker 2: Off, right, so that people just fade away into the
Speaker 2: sleep pod. I mean that even starts with two thousand
Speaker 2: and one of Space Odyssey.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that what the new Alien movie was about? Too?
Speaker 3: M is that Romulus I haven't seen. Yeah, i'n't seen.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen. I haven't seen that one because it
Speaker 3: looks too squatchy for me. There's too much squashing in that.
Speaker 1: They're spot on about that. Yeah. Here in chapter five
Speaker 1: says we know Pouhark was working with the CIA on
Speaker 1: experiments with various techniques for inducing altered states of consciousness,
Speaker 1: which is another way of saying he worked on the
Speaker 1: potential of mind control. We also know, at least to
Speaker 1: a point, that Geller worked for them. They want you
Speaker 1: to know how he could use his mind to influence
Speaker 1: inanimate objects and see distant locations, in other words, to
Speaker 1: test the remote influencing abilities where they not and somehow
Speaker 1: part of c I a mind control experiment.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, this, this stuff, This stuff is really interesting
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: This is what I really like about uh.
Speaker 3: This book because whenever they talk about you know, the
Speaker 3: Noedic Institute of Noedic Sciences and Palo Alto and the
Speaker 3: Remote Viewing Astral Projection the stargate and that that's really
Speaker 3: interesting to me because that's mon talk project. That's that's
Speaker 3: like use using people who like the people that they
Speaker 3: get in SRI like that got Pat Price, right, that
Speaker 3: they get who's just some the most psychic man in
Speaker 3: the world and is able to draw pictures of you know,
Speaker 3: NSA facilities near near Fort Meade and on Earth these
Speaker 3: places and then can read like another thing, like the
Speaker 3: guy could read the file cabinet underground in the bunker,
Speaker 3: and he named the project with all of the pool
Speaker 3: related things.
Speaker 2: He said, like there's like cue.
Speaker 3: Ball, there's four ball, there's there's nine ball, there's eight ball,
Speaker 3: and like that's the name of the project with the
Speaker 3: nuclear launch codes on it.
Speaker 2: That stuff is that stuff is crazy.
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, if you were running the program,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, we've got an obvious leak in here.
Speaker 3: Something is wrong or is this disinfo or are these
Speaker 3: people Soviet agents. Is that what's happening? But you know,
Speaker 3: all things like Stranger Things did a great example of
Speaker 3: showing that because when they use eleven, who is a
Speaker 3: Winter Soldier, Montauk Project, traumatized psychokinetic warrior or whatever, she
Speaker 3: goes when she goes into she's in the float tank
Speaker 3: and they show her in the black goo like in
Speaker 3: the in the nothing zone and then she's tapping through
Speaker 3: radio waves to listen to people like that stuff is
Speaker 3: really that's like, that's really.
Speaker 2: Interesting to me. And I wonder how far.
Speaker 3: That has gone or if it just melded into something
Speaker 3: like with prism and they can now they can use
Speaker 3: radio frequencies and Wi Fi frequencies to your from your
Speaker 3: house to just map whatever it is. Anyway, how much
Speaker 3: of that is turned into psychotronics.
Speaker 2: But this is this stuff's really interesting.
Speaker 1: In addition to the search for these artifacts or whatever,
Speaker 1: I mean, the motivation behind that is the search to
Speaker 1: control human behavior. That's the goal, and doing that through
Speaker 1: the mind because they can't do it physically to everybody,
Speaker 1: but they can do it mentally, right.
Speaker 3: You know when they you know, when they talk about
Speaker 3: the Keys of Enoch Enoch, I mean, how much does
Speaker 3: this tie in with because whenever I hear that, I
Speaker 3: think of John D and the Enokian language, right and
Speaker 3: scrying uh and John D mixed with you know, as
Speaker 3: the agent for I mean, there's as a classic painting
Speaker 3: of John D drawing a magic circle in front of
Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth, you know, and so did he and Edward Kelly.
Speaker 3: Is that like a primative? Is that like a Renaissance
Speaker 3: version of a stargate?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That they are there's an occult contact with the demonic
Speaker 3: entity through of Citian mirror. And is that what Aleister
Speaker 3: Crowley was doing in that Goesher? What was the ritual
Speaker 3: he did the not the babylon working, the one where
Speaker 3: he did it at is that the one he did
Speaker 3: at his house in Scotland and he left in the
Speaker 3: middle of it, and it was the I think that
Speaker 3: was the Goesia. That was the John D ritual and
Speaker 3: the and what they what's written about it is that
Speaker 3: like it was that one working where you started in
Speaker 3: the middle and you you know, you you cross the abyss.
Speaker 3: But he purposely left in the middle of it to
Speaker 3: leave the game way open.
Speaker 1: Well, think about this when you draw the magic circle
Speaker 1: on the floor and the pentagram. That's what the opens
Speaker 1: the gate and it's going to star in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Stargate Yeah, and Wormhole is the same thing as Stargate.
Speaker 1: And we did that whole show about parasites how they
Speaker 1: are connected to demonic activity. So Stargate Wormhole, I don't know,
Speaker 1: am I onto something?
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that? Is that how they got the
Speaker 2: dune worms?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: My iraqis my desert, my dune.
Speaker 1: So the Roundtable UH Foundation is also connected to the
Speaker 1: Army's psychological warfare program. You've got funding by Henry Wallace,
Speaker 1: who he's a character himself. He was the one who
Speaker 1: we were talking about. Nikolas Rar convinced him to put
Speaker 1: the Great Seal on the dollar bill.
Speaker 4: But he he believed that God had chosen America to
Speaker 4: be the leader of the world, and that his own
Speaker 4: place in the scheme of things was hardly that of
Speaker 4: a humble foot soldier.
Speaker 1: He thought of himself as a messiah. He was also
Speaker 1: deeply interested in mysticism and a prominent freemason, so he
Speaker 1: actually said quote, it will take a more definite recognition
Speaker 1: of the grand architect of the universe before the apex
Speaker 1: Stone is finally fitted into the place, and this nation,
Speaker 1: in the full strength of its power, is in position
Speaker 1: to assume leadership among the nations, inaugurating the new order
Speaker 1: of the ages. So again we're telling people new world
Speaker 1: order is connected to aliens, to Sirius, to the Great Seal,
Speaker 1: to mysticism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be a new world order a thousand
Speaker 3: points alike.
Speaker 1: Yes, Novus Orders Forum. So then you've got Pharacuh working
Speaker 1: on the kids, the Stranger Things kids. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the real story of that.
Speaker 2: M h.
Speaker 1: It's the real story of X Men first Class and
Speaker 1: Stranger Things. And his name is Andre Proharrik, and he
Speaker 1: was also working on ways to make people hear voices
Speaker 1: in their heads. So this is another mystical experience that
Speaker 1: you could be having with aliens or your channeling or whatever.
Speaker 1: It could just be beamed into your head through technology, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of that video.
Speaker 3: There's a video going around right now of Tesla with
Speaker 3: the first microphone, you know, picking up those what sounds
Speaker 3: like demonic voices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. I wonder though, if it's that bit.
Speaker 3: It was funny because I wonder if it's just he
Speaker 3: was in his apartment building and he's just picking up
Speaker 3: other people in the apartment talking like in the apartment
Speaker 3: building about I want yeah, I want some cigarettes on
Speaker 3: my stake sandwich, of course, but it does it does
Speaker 3: sound very strange.
Speaker 1: Well, they're saying that maybe mystical encounters or like other
Speaker 1: worldly creatures could be basically auditory hallucinations.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, like C. S.
Speaker 3: Lewis talks about this in Screwtape Letters, I think that
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said for possession happening
Speaker 3: in auditory sensation. It's not it's not when people talk
Speaker 3: about contacting demons or you know, being possessed or it's
Speaker 3: they usually talk about it in a visual sense what
Speaker 3: they see. But I think that it's probably there's something
Speaker 3: to be more truthful about about hearing things, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, certainly like schizophrenia and and demonic contacts has
Speaker 3: some sort of there's some mixture of the two, like
Speaker 3: the two are one, you know, And it makes sense
Speaker 3: that when you hear your own voice in your head
Speaker 3: and you're talking and you start to hear something, you
Speaker 3: real if people realize there's something else talking to them,
Speaker 3: I mean, sees just talks about in Screwtable Letters that
Speaker 3: that the demon is job remembering Screwtable latters, He's like,
Speaker 3: your job at Wormwood is not to like move people
Speaker 3: away from prayer. You can't do that. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: You're not gonna physically move a person or appear to
Speaker 3: a person when they're praying, they seem to have like
Speaker 3: a halo around them that protects them. Instead, it's to
Speaker 3: introduce the thought into their head that they've what happened
Speaker 3: to their car keys. So the minute that they think
Speaker 3: about their car keys, now their mind is away from prayer.
Speaker 3: And it's a slight it's a subtle voice in your
Speaker 3: head that moves, that moves you away from something good
Speaker 3: because because evil isn't an active force, it's a something
Speaker 3: that it's a lack of a positive force, or it's
Speaker 3: in a shade or a shadow, or it's something that
Speaker 3: distracts you from that.
Speaker 2: So it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Point I'm actually reading screw Taale Letters right now for
Speaker 1: rouh huh. Yeah, it's got some great insights into it,
Speaker 1: and that's I think what we're talking about here is
Speaker 1: the demons talking to people because they get into the
Speaker 1: order of the solar Temple and their mass on a
Speaker 1: livings because their beliefs included the existence of ets from
Speaker 1: serious yeah right, and then Star Trek influenced Heaven's Gate
Speaker 1: many Oh, and then that gets really interesting. The contact
Speaker 1: he's of the forties were members of fascist groups. Uh
Speaker 1: huh remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he talks about the especially the sin is that
Speaker 3: when he talks about synarchy or is that later later?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Tool Society and and Rudolph Hass
Speaker 3: And I mean again that makes sense, you know with
Speaker 3: the It's like in do remember in Dune too, when
Speaker 3: they go to the Iraqis and like there's a a
Speaker 3: black sun like it's it's like they look gray. Dune too,
Speaker 3: and Prometheus and all these are in the same universe
Speaker 3: because the people they're gray, like they look like gray
Speaker 3: aliens because they have a like an anti son, like
Speaker 3: a black son, and everything is in black and white ship,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of a gnostic like shade.
Speaker 2: I don't know where I was going with that, Sorry,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I started thinking about Elvis fighting the little Matador people
Speaker 3: in Dune too.
Speaker 1: Oh. He did really good in that.
Speaker 2: I thought he did.
Speaker 3: Listen up, chucklehead, they keep talking about this, MOI deeb.
Speaker 1: He was really creepy. He did a good job. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So the US government agencies are involved in these cult
Speaker 1: creation experiments, and the cult called the Guardians had this house.
Speaker 1: It was like cults of housewife mediums connected to scientology.
Speaker 1: So scientology is in this. Back to the Space Kids.
Speaker 3: For a second, what's that other group? Est remember that
Speaker 3: mm hmm. Earhart's sensitivity training, the one that the celebrities
Speaker 3: were involved in. John Lennon and Yoko were involved in it,
Speaker 3: and Erhard was actually a You wouldn't think he would
Speaker 3: be a fascist, he would be the other thing.
Speaker 2: But he found it.
Speaker 3: He found the nodic sciences at Palo Alto, but he
Speaker 3: was that's what you were talking about with the fascistic regime.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what they're kind of hinting at too,
Speaker 1: with the idea of root races and every race has
Speaker 1: an extratrextural mix, except for black people. So that's going
Speaker 1: to get taken into weird places. I found them talking
Speaker 1: about the Space kids, So it says consider for example,
Speaker 1: Pooharic and Deellar kids or Space kids who he tested
Speaker 1: and trained during nineteen seventy. They were twenty of them,
Speaker 1: the youngest nine and the oldest in their lateeen, called
Speaker 1: from seven different countries and taken to what became jokingly
Speaker 1: known as Pouharak's Turkey Farm at Austin Ining in order
Speaker 1: to develop their psychic potential. As we have seen, Pohr
Speaker 1: train them in remote viewing. But the target locations he
Speaker 1: set were significant. They were of military or intelligence interests
Speaker 1: and included the Pentagon, Kremlin, and even the White House.
Speaker 1: And he also experimented on the children in order to
Speaker 1: contact extraterrestrial intelligence.
Speaker 3: When you, by the way, when you're mentioning the the voices,
Speaker 3: one of the guys that's involved in the overseer of
Speaker 3: the program like at SRI was this guy Kit Green,
Speaker 3: doctor Green. And is he so you remember the Kathy
Speaker 3: O'Brien tapes. Kathy O'Brien and the other lady who were claimed,
Speaker 3: you know, they claim to.
Speaker 2: Be child soldiers.
Speaker 1: Arizona Wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I she the one of the glasses. It's like short
Speaker 3: black hair and glasses. There's two of them.
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh.
Speaker 3: And they said they said they were part of the
Speaker 3: most dangerous game, like as part of their training, they
Speaker 3: had to do all this stuff, and you know they
Speaker 3: were hunted in all this.
Speaker 2: But she mentions doctor Green.
Speaker 3: She says, a man I knew is doctor Green was
Speaker 3: her main programmer and did all the you know, he
Speaker 3: oversaw the terrible things that made her into this. Is
Speaker 3: that the same doctor Green in this kit Green, he's
Speaker 3: on pitch two forty zero.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the same dude. Maybe because he was.
Speaker 2: He was also the guy who later.
Speaker 3: When the there was there was like a Hungarian. There
Speaker 3: was some Hungarian who who like had a heart attack
Speaker 3: in a public place, and they got his body to
Speaker 3: CIA and they had him look at it, and he's
Speaker 3: the one who, when it was declassified, said that they
Speaker 3: found a ridium pellette that had been shot into him,
Speaker 3: which was like one of the first instances of assassination
Speaker 3: with Rising, and that nobody would have suspected anything. The
Speaker 3: guy was already already had heart problems. He had a
Speaker 3: heart attack, and this is like post church hearings the
Speaker 3: heart attack gun. But when they realized that he was
Speaker 3: tied in with somebody in like Hungarian and Soviet Hungarian
Speaker 3: or Soviet intelligence and had leaked some secret that he
Speaker 3: figured out that the guy had been a sade he
Speaker 3: found the palette like behind his ear or something in
Speaker 3: the lodge of his brain.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's the same guy.
Speaker 1: Could be They're all they were talking about this group
Speaker 1: called the Psychic Mafia, and this guy named Ira Einhorn,
Speaker 1: who they call the universe and he was like Pooharic's protege,
Speaker 1: and he was really popular. So in the nineteen seventies
Speaker 1: he had a worldwide network of scientists, industrialist, writers, philosophers
Speaker 1: off the cutting edge of physics, parapsychology, psychology and other fields.
Speaker 1: So he had three hundred and fifty experts from twenty countries,
Speaker 1: with himself acting as what he called the planetary catalyst,
Speaker 1: circulating information to all members. The network was funded by
Speaker 1: Bell Telephone Company. Now you've got this crazy invisible college
Speaker 1: going but his girlfriend goes missing.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is is he? Okay?
Speaker 3: Is he the guy that started earth Day? I don't
Speaker 3: know the guy that started earth Day? The same thing happened.
Speaker 3: Is that the same guy? Because the guy that started
Speaker 3: earth Day is the guy who had the girlfriend who
Speaker 3: they found in the closet, And then it's got to
Speaker 3: be him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says eighteen months later, after they she went missing.
Speaker 1: After investigations by private detectives employed by her parents, the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Police searched Einhorn's apartment and found a very badly
Speaker 1: decomposed girlfriend in the trunk, locked in a cupboard in
Speaker 1: the back porch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is.
Speaker 1: The guy who's overseeing three hundred and fifty worldwide planetary
Speaker 1: catalyst people, is a murderer and keeping dead bodies in
Speaker 1: the cupboard and his porch and Poohr's mental I mean protege.
Speaker 1: And so when this case was being investigated, it says
Speaker 1: Poohr seemed to have been more concerned about recovering papers
Speaker 1: about the Geller Kids experiments. He had let them shortly
Speaker 1: before she disappeared.
Speaker 2: Okay, the guy that found the Earth Day was gay
Speaker 2: Lord Nelson.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I.
Speaker 2: Think the same thing.
Speaker 3: I think that dude did the same thing he did,
Speaker 3: like the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, you've got all of these new Age gurus,
Speaker 1: thought leaders, and they're connected to the highest tippy tops
Speaker 1: of echelons of power. White House funded by established corporations,
Speaker 1: Bell telephone, and other things that you would not think
Speaker 1: would be into, like parasites, paranormal research. But even the
Speaker 1: books that come out like the people love and are
Speaker 1: touched by you know, like the Dowel physics. And these
Speaker 1: people are also involved with the Nine.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the telephone company ever since snowed in in
Speaker 3: Titan Point. And then remember that boomer a few years
Speaker 3: ago in Nashville, the Christmas Day boomer event on the
Speaker 3: telephone Company.
Speaker 1: Yes, AT and T yeah yeah. Oh and guess who
Speaker 1: else pops up his little head? John C. Lilly worked
Speaker 1: at the Estlin Institute for several years as well as
Speaker 1: for the CIA, and I mean the Esslin Institute. Actually
Speaker 1: they say that the Nine work for them, and uh,
Speaker 1: for many many years they were just focused on the
Speaker 1: channeling of the Nine to all the people have visited there.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta, I gotta triviua question for you. Shakespeare
Speaker 3: is quoted at the end of this chapter. Okay, what
Speaker 3: what play is it?
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Oftentimes to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness,
Speaker 3: win us with honest trifles, only to betray us in
Speaker 3: deepest consequence.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's an occultic play, is it The Tempest?
Speaker 2: No, that's that's yes, Macbeth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Tempest has prosper Prospero is a kind of
Speaker 3: John D character. Prosper was played by Shakespeare, you know
Speaker 3: that himself. Oh really, Yeah, he was supposed to play off.
Speaker 3: He played King Hamlet, and he played the character of
Speaker 3: prosper when he was alive. Because he buries his book
Speaker 3: full fathom five, so he's baring his books, so it's
Speaker 3: his last supposed to be the end of his playwriting.
Speaker 2: But it's based on John D.
Speaker 3: But this quote to the end of this chapter is
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool because it's Macbeth and it's banquote giving
Speaker 3: Macbeth a warning saying, like he's saying, when you take
Speaker 3: these deals, when you listen to these entities, they give
Speaker 3: you things, they give you powers, they give you things,
Speaker 3: but they're just trifles, and when you need them the most,
Speaker 3: they'll betray you and the consequence will be the worst.
Speaker 3: Which is pretty pretty revelatory for much of the material
Speaker 3: in this book. Yeah, a lot, a lot of these
Speaker 3: people did not end up well, you know, And of
Speaker 3: course are one over with contracts and the ability to
Speaker 3: travel or all the stuff that they went through through
Speaker 3: the system that's funding them that alone, and end up
Speaker 3: as loose ends.
Speaker 1: They are trying to make Star Trek real, and you
Speaker 1: kind of wonder why this show has such an influence
Speaker 1: on people, Like not every serial show has these dedicated fans,
Speaker 1: multi generational yea that are super into it. And it's
Speaker 1: probably because it's channeled by you know, extraterrestrial demons and
Speaker 1: it has a bunch of stuff in there that people
Speaker 1: that hooks people. I don't know what you think.
Speaker 3: I think it is strange. It's one of those shows
Speaker 3: that people tend to think was really big and popular.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it was that pobbay. It didn't run
Speaker 3: for that long. The original show didn't run for that long.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's also one of these weird like
Speaker 3: lies that were told about the past. I mean, my
Speaker 3: anecdotal info for this is like the stuff with the
Speaker 3: moon landing. You know that we're told that like every
Speaker 3: person in the world stopped what they were doing and
Speaker 3: they watched the moon landing on television. It was watched
Speaker 3: by forty billion people alive or whatever. And my dad,
Speaker 3: I remember my dad telling me one time, like I
Speaker 3: didn't watch that, Yeah, nobody watch Like nobody I know
Speaker 3: watched that.
Speaker 2: We were out. We were like we're out, you know.
Speaker 3: At a restaurant or something. We were out having fun.
Speaker 3: Nobody cared about that. I'm sure people did watch it,
Speaker 3: but it's the same sort of thing you're to I
Speaker 3: can see that because it's the same sort of thing
Speaker 3: you're told about, like the super Bowl. You know, all
Speaker 3: these people watched the super Bowl world wide. While I
Speaker 3: lived abroad for five years and I was there every
Speaker 3: for five years, the super Bowl was happening, and it's like,
Speaker 3: no one's watching the American super Bowl first of all,
Speaker 3: comes on at like two in the morning, so no
Speaker 3: one's no one cares, no one's watching that. And it's
Speaker 3: the same thing with Star Trek. You wonder why it's
Speaker 3: so popular, why it made its way, and I think
Speaker 3: because the people that it was popular with really saw
Speaker 3: something that they could, you know, larp, you could you
Speaker 3: could live another life, and the same way that outer
Speaker 3: space seems to be so popular with people.
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean, just look at now.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the same people that don't believe
Speaker 3: in religion believe wholeheartedly and like with water molecule on Mars,
Speaker 3: and they really believe in aliens, you know, and how
Speaker 3: can we I'm a scientist, you know, of course, I
Speaker 3: believe in the probability of people elsewhere, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, but your whole thing is is is
Speaker 3: physical data, and you don't have any, so why why
Speaker 3: would that be the And of course quantum, you know,
Speaker 3: quantum and all this stuff with quantum and strength like
Speaker 3: gets thrown into it. Of course that provides more reason
Speaker 3: for people to believe, even though that's not in their paradigm,
Speaker 3: to believe it's supposed to be data.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's why it's so popular. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I never really cared, so it was kind
Speaker 2: of funny.
Speaker 1: I mean it could have been an experiment in programming
Speaker 1: I mean programming people, because they talk about you know,
Speaker 1: higher intelligences as programmers, and they have a developed theory
Speaker 1: that human beings are really biocomputers. I mean, that's John C. Lilly, right,
Speaker 1: he says all human beings are programmed biocomputers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's this.
Speaker 3: It's probably comes out of the same reason, you know,
Speaker 3: the same sort of sixties boomer thing where conventional traditional
Speaker 3: religion is thrown out because of your parents' generation and
Speaker 3: so you know.
Speaker 2: LSD and acid and.
Speaker 3: All that gets thrown into it and of course there
Speaker 3: are looking people and we can star travel and we're
Speaker 3: all star seeds, and every man and woman is a star.
Speaker 1: And Captain Kirk is like a panspermia too, because he
Speaker 1: goes around sleeping with all the aliens. He does, like
Speaker 1: speaking the universe with more DNA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it would be very popular. You would
Speaker 3: see how it would make its way all these years
Speaker 3: with Spock, because Spock is I saw a new study
Speaker 3: the other day that said, like the rates of uh,
Speaker 3: let's say, spectral behavior in children has gone from you know,
Speaker 3: one in like fifteen thousand a few years. I don't
Speaker 3: know what the numbers are, but one in fifteen thousand,
Speaker 3: like twenty years ago to now it's like one in five.
Speaker 2: And that's Spock. You know, Spock is a is a.
Speaker 3: I guess, pretty sociopathic person who you know, it's he
Speaker 3: is pure logic.
Speaker 2: He has no it's all brain, no heart.
Speaker 1: Half vulcan though, too, m so imagine going full vulcan.
Speaker 1: That's like, right, no empathy whatsoever. Everything is logic. Everything
Speaker 1: is data. And that's even a character in the New
Speaker 1: Star Trek right data.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1: The Secret Masters are chapter six? Are you ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't like these? Yeah? Yeah, no I do.
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I feel bad, I mean them too hard.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go heay.
Speaker 1: Question, what is the three volume ocult master work by
Speaker 1: Schwaler de Lupit's cult.
Speaker 3: The Need, the the Needer, the the see.
Speaker 2: The nine Principles. No, let let the Temple of Man? Yes, yes, yes, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Next question, what is the term for a government run
Speaker 1: by secret societies?
Speaker 2: Uh? Is that the synarchy? Yes?
Speaker 1: Synarchy, We're going to talk about that. Next question, how
Speaker 1: many original Knights Templar were there? Should be?
Speaker 2: Should be obvious? I want to say thirty three nine?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, got three spins so far.
Speaker 1: Next question, what is the mysterious underground realm from which
Speaker 1: highly all adepts physically directed development of the human race?
Speaker 2: Mm? Hmmm, I don't know what is it? Tell me, Garthur,
Speaker 2: what is it? What is it?
Speaker 1: Gartha?
Speaker 2: Agatha?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Last question, okay, which legendary princess was also
Speaker 1: a member of the Sovereign Order of the Solar Temple?
Speaker 2: Ye, Princess Grace.
Speaker 1: There you go. You got four out of five on
Speaker 1: chapter six.
Speaker 2: Nice spin for win let's spin it.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're already going to Egypt, you're going to Mars.
Speaker 1: You've got what off the covement? Are you going to
Speaker 1: get the car in the furniture?
Speaker 2: I need some of those top g bucks? No whammy? Yeah,
Speaker 2: hell yeah, I got the tassela roaster, roaster. Let's go.
Speaker 3: What's he playing on the radio and the tel roaster serie?
Speaker 1: Okay, big books, no whammy? All right, the roaster?
Speaker 2: Damn it?
Speaker 1: You got two more?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to listen to serious.
Speaker 3: I'd rather listen to grimes.
Speaker 1: We appreciate power.
Speaker 2: Got a whammy, it's a whammy.
Speaker 1: Big books, No wammies. Let's get that Roadstert no wammy.
Speaker 2: Damn that sucks. Okay.
Speaker 1: Chapter six, getting towards the end, this is like for
Speaker 1: me of it. You think this was like, yeah, where
Speaker 1: it all comes together. If you're still with us, it
Speaker 1: coalesces into ritual magic and everything that we know about
Speaker 1: and talk about the usual suspects. It's the secret Masters,
Speaker 1: it's l Ron Hubbard, it's Alshacrole, it's the Egyptologist. You
Speaker 1: know we just talked about respected scholar Sala Dealubits wrote
Speaker 1: The Temple of Man. He also wrote about the Nine
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirteen in a French theosophical journal. He was
Speaker 1: a major political influencer of the twentieth century. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was a hermeticist, an alchemist and a proto fascist. So
Speaker 1: this is where you are getting a lots of tiny
Speaker 1: mustache man ideas. Hesse and those guys are interested in
Speaker 1: Shuala Dealubits and his mystical ideas. He believed in the
Speaker 1: brotherhood of Gleopolis. He wrote under the name Folkanelly about
Speaker 1: the mystery of the cathedrals, and he was one of
Speaker 1: the first to talk about things being encoded into the
Speaker 1: architecture of Gothic cathedral right eso symbolism. So he thought
Speaker 1: that this spiritually elite should be allowed to govern. And
Speaker 1: that was the question that you got right about.
Speaker 3: What was it called synarchy the opposite the opposite anarchy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that there's a I read one time in a
Speaker 3: a I think it's in the occult roots of the
Speaker 3: s S where in the castle of Webelsburg, right, which
Speaker 3: was the spiritual home of the ss where they had
Speaker 3: their round table, the round There is a round table.
Speaker 3: There's a round there's an Arthurian roundtable on the wall
Speaker 3: at Winch. I think it's a Winchester couldthedral that Edward
Speaker 3: the first found. But the they had a roundtable that
Speaker 3: they also and they had the they look for the
Speaker 3: lance of Longenists. They were trying to find what the
Speaker 3: holy Grail was in terms of their their Uh Sun
Speaker 3: Sunwheel brotherhood. They had the black Son on the floor
Speaker 3: at Babelsburg. Michael Keino did the ceremony in s S Regalia,
Speaker 3: but that Himmler saw himself as the spiritual head of
Speaker 3: a new Teutonic Knight order and had a throne made
Speaker 3: of human bones and skulls, which he said, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: So it's a sort of apotheosis of.
Speaker 2: Of that group in this synarchic order.
Speaker 1: What was that castle called.
Speaker 2: Wabelsburg w E or w E w E L s
Speaker 2: p U r G.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy. So they're getting Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: these ideas for Swala Delubis and the Temple of Man
Speaker 1: is all about Luxor and Karnak and all of these
Speaker 1: Egyptian places, because he's saying that the temples are built
Speaker 1: on the proportions like the golden proportions of body person's body.
Speaker 1: Your body is a temple, and a temple built on
Speaker 1: these golden ratios also, but he did influence the Nazi
Speaker 1: beliefs about racial superiority. Actually, the SS uniform was based
Speaker 1: on one Shwala de Lubis designed for his followers. That's
Speaker 1: so crazy.
Speaker 2: That was that the TheInk he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he designed it for the essay and then
Speaker 3: it became the essays. I'm sure it inspired Hugo Boss
Speaker 3: to uh design the one for the ess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So synarchy and government should have complete control rule
Speaker 1: by secret society. Their document mentioned is the creation of
Speaker 1: a federal European Union. So they are very much in
Speaker 1: favor of consolidation of powers and confederacies and united nations.
Speaker 1: So this book was written in nineteen ninety nine. Was
Speaker 1: I don't even think EU then?
Speaker 2: No, he didn't.
Speaker 3: It was well, the it was coming together, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was in I was in the UK when they
Speaker 3: adopted the currency and when they changed the borders.
Speaker 2: One of the one of.
Speaker 3: The ads that ran was a it was controversial at
Speaker 3: the time. Was it was just right after this was
Speaker 3: a speech by Hotler.
Speaker 2: Say you know, and.
Speaker 3: They would run it with film in color saying this
Speaker 3: is you know, this is what he wanted or whatever,
Speaker 3: we're not going to That's why Britain didn't end up
Speaker 3: adopting the the euro.
Speaker 2: And kept with the pound. Wow.
Speaker 3: But I remember when they when the borders, when the
Speaker 3: borders opened up, because.
Speaker 2: When I let's see in.
Speaker 3: Two thousand, In two thousand and two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: I think I walked. I was on a European InterRail
Speaker 3: trip by myself, and I walked from Switzerland to Austria
Speaker 3: through Lichtenstein.
Speaker 2: With no borders. Oh that's the country's only five miles wide.
Speaker 3: So I walked from from border through three countries in
Speaker 3: the day and there were no borders. And that was
Speaker 3: crazy because you know, I've been in Northern Ireland and
Speaker 3: of course the border checks were had just shut down there,
Speaker 3: but for a different reason.
Speaker 2: But but that was cool.
Speaker 3: That was a big thing for me at the time
Speaker 3: because you could have an InterRail pass and you could
Speaker 3: just have euros. Actually, the first time I went, they
Speaker 3: didn't have the euro yet because I still had to
Speaker 3: get currency for every I remember having a Danish coroner.
Speaker 3: And then when I went back they had the euro.
Speaker 3: You can just spend money wherever at any country, and
Speaker 3: it was it was it was for there's convenience too,
Speaker 3: and it was pretty cool. But obviously that twenty years on,
Speaker 3: twenty something years on, has resulted in all of the
Speaker 3: absolute chaos that we see now.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy to think that this was all. I mean,
Speaker 1: it didn't start in nineteen thirteen, but the fomenting of
Speaker 1: all of these ideas about believing in Atlantis Egypt. I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't crazy or tiny mustache man believe in Atlantis?
Speaker 2: And that I think so. I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: made of that.
Speaker 3: And certainly he was influenced by a tool society and
Speaker 3: there was an occult aspect of that, but I think
Speaker 3: that it was slightly different with him. I think he
Speaker 3: let Himmler run wild with this stuff because of what
Speaker 3: an engenerate and like you were mentioning earlier, this sort
Speaker 3: of weird spiritual ecumenism with all of the religions that
Speaker 3: is sort of what that particular country adopted because they
Speaker 3: used because they used the hierarchical system of the Catholic
Speaker 3: Church mixed in with the Jesuit you know, a Jesuit
Speaker 3: order obviously had influence on on the.
Speaker 2: SSS mixed in with the.
Speaker 3: Kind of weird Germanic fatherland worship, you know, I mean
Speaker 3: Hotler continuously made references to Providence in his speeches, right.
Speaker 3: He talked about how you know, I'm I'm married to Germany.
Speaker 3: Divine Providence has led me to this place. War is
Speaker 3: the great crucible of human existence. He talks about, I've
Speaker 3: been the masses to my will like women. And it
Speaker 3: became what we were talking about with this root race thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, the A R Y A N thing is
Speaker 3: mentioned in here a number of times. So yeah, but
Speaker 3: I think that was mainly Himmler. I think his thing
Speaker 3: was a little a little more uh, pragmatic or something,
Speaker 3: and less spiritually wonky like Himmler Lodge.
Speaker 1: Well, they were definitely in touch with, you know, the
Speaker 1: Secret Chiefs, right which the Nine says that they are
Speaker 1: the secret Chiefs. I wass says that he's one of
Speaker 1: these secret chiefs. Also from Sirius. The highest initiates of
Speaker 1: Croley's Golden Dawn would go into either the OTO or
Speaker 1: the AA, right, yeah, and the AA if he goes
Speaker 1: don't know, it's the Argentium astrom the Order of the
Speaker 1: Silver Star, which is serious and it is to be
Speaker 1: in direct contact with the secret chiefs. And then Crowley
Speaker 1: actually moved to California for a bit to set up
Speaker 1: all of these OTO lodges and make this the main
Speaker 1: center of a call activity. And that works so well
Speaker 1: with scientology and which just Hollywood in general, because that
Speaker 1: is the you know, the cultural cornerstone of pop culture.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: He really was everywhere, I mean, la he spent a
Speaker 3: considerable time in New York. Of course, he was in
Speaker 3: Berlin The Beast. There's a book, The Beast in Berlin,
Speaker 3: and that a lot of the stuff that's denied about
Speaker 3: him being a spy, you know, is some sort of
Speaker 3: triple agent. And and of course has I mean I
Speaker 3: forgot to mention hass has Co wrote the Struggle book
Speaker 3: with Hotler and with this other guy that you're talking about,
Speaker 3: and yeah, and uh I think it's was it Richard,
Speaker 3: doctor Richard Spence, the one who wrote the book that
Speaker 3: said that has his secret flight to Scotland was headed
Speaker 3: towards that. He was headed towards Lockmaster to meet with Crowley.
Speaker 3: He was he was the occultist. So yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 3: Is it possible? Is it possible?
Speaker 1: I like when doctor Phil tries to get to people
Speaker 1: to change your mind. He always surts it is it possible.
Speaker 3: I like when he had the girl with with Tourette's
Speaker 3: on there, the girl that goes you're bald, You're done,
Speaker 3: You're done, and he goes listen. At the end of
Speaker 3: that show, he goes, listen, I've got a solution for you.
Speaker 3: And I believe that you have what you say you have.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you a question. What if you didn't?
Speaker 3: Thanks for the show.
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 1: You really said that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 3: I also think of that Ai voice that you see
Speaker 3: you hear all the time, like on Instagram. And Rudolph
Speaker 3: Hess was a man who went in a plane flight
Speaker 3: and went off towards Scotland, the guy that does like
Speaker 3: they used him for the home voices. There's a home
Speaker 3: somewhere in California, you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, And when he landed, he tried to parachute
Speaker 1: right in the cottom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the people that they brought in to interrogate him,
Speaker 1: I think was the.
Speaker 2: Double seven guy, Ian Fleming. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. That just came out
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, back to serious. Okay, So guess who
Speaker 1: else is from serious.
Speaker 2: Who I was.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course, he says, I was is the
Speaker 1: type of extraterrestrial intelligence such as we may expect to
Speaker 1: come into consciousness. The aon develops and elsewhere Grant writes
Speaker 1: that talk about Kenneth Grant, He talks about Tom and
Speaker 1: the Nine. Iwas is the link the quarter through which
Speaker 1: the impulse was transmitted from the source of extraterrestrial consciousness.
Speaker 1: So ias is some kind of conduit between the Nine
Speaker 1: and the public through al Shacroli, because they were happy
Speaker 1: just channeling him through to certain people who would then
Speaker 1: go on to influence. They want direct communion basically. And
Speaker 1: they talk about Whitley Strieber in the last part of
Speaker 1: this book, but like communion with the ets M.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the famous part where people will know
Speaker 3: this about Crowley going to Egypt with Rose and she
Speaker 3: was his medium and directing him towards the exhibit number
Speaker 3: six sixty six in the museum and it was the
Speaker 3: statue of Horace.
Speaker 2: And then they leave out of the book.
Speaker 3: But after that is when he went into the desert
Speaker 3: with I think McGregor math Mathers.
Speaker 2: I think that's who it was.
Speaker 3: It was one of those guys that he used and
Speaker 3: drew the circle in the sand and fire and did
Speaker 3: the magic ritual working with me, gave him like peyote
Speaker 3: and heroin or something, and then stepped out of the
Speaker 3: magic circle like or pushed him out or something. He
Speaker 3: always he always did that, like doing the the working
Speaker 3: and then violating the working in the middle of it
Speaker 3: for contact. But yeah, in the form of raw that's
Speaker 3: what I thought you were gonna question me on ra.
Speaker 2: I thought there's one question.
Speaker 1: That's too hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one little like obscure thing you remember, Yes,
Speaker 5: and mm hmm two uh size of the God.
Speaker 2: His daughter Lola Zaza.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is something on page two sixty nine here
Speaker 3: which I found pretty pretty wild, which is the quasi
Speaker 3: Wildean aphorism where he said, always tell the truth but
Speaker 3: leads to improbable a life that no one will ever
Speaker 3: believe you. That's that's spycraft. That's that seems to be
Speaker 3: intelligence right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think he always told the truth either. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just lie about telling the truth, right. Jack Parsons thought
Speaker 1: that the flying Saucers would convert the world to Croley's
Speaker 1: magical religion.
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, maybe he's right. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1: Wass is e T. I mean, he looks like he's
Speaker 1: everyone's favorite little butt baby. He looks like the gray right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Lamb is a pharaoh e T.
Speaker 3: And actually Crowley's Lamb drawing looks like a black Israelite
Speaker 3: drawing or something.
Speaker 1: It does look like yaku. Yeah, so I lost and
Speaker 1: lam are kind of the same ish. But they thought
Speaker 1: that Mars would leave of extreme importance to the religion
Speaker 1: of the future. That's Crowley impartans. In the AA it
Speaker 1: says the influence of Aquarius is transmitted through Saturn. And
Speaker 1: then we have this character Harry Smith. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of him before this book? I hadn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have, and only because I have a friend,
Speaker 3: an English actor, a friend named Harry Smith.
Speaker 2: But Harry Smith, And this was pretty wild because.
Speaker 3: He's another one of these Crowley type characters who it
Speaker 3: is either the most psychic man in the world and
Speaker 3: a magician or he's a total grifter, you know, and
Speaker 3: there seems to be no middle ground.
Speaker 2: Between the two. But the guy was like involved in everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a hero of the beat generation in
Speaker 1: the hippn uh huh, the oto. He's a Theosophist Freemason family.
Speaker 1: He was a Grammy winner for his influence on pop music.
Speaker 1: He was a somebody that Bob Dylan looked up to
Speaker 1: Soolkalore On funded by the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he integrated in Nokian magic of John d into
Speaker 1: the OTO and he was also a Tarot deck designer.
Speaker 1: He's another one of these guys behind you know, Wizards
Speaker 1: of Oz.
Speaker 2: Let's call up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they did an OTO ritual at Saint
Speaker 3: Mark's Church in Saint Mark's Place in New York for
Speaker 3: his funeral.
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, yeah, So it says the AA
Speaker 1: emphasized the importance of series. The Order was named after it,
Speaker 1: and believed in non human intelligence, which in post for
Speaker 1: California came to be seen as extraterrestrial. These are the
Speaker 1: key things. The Robert Temple Serious Mystery, who we now
Speaker 1: know came ultimately from remember the eight A via someone
Speaker 1: who was involved with the Council of Nine and hear
Speaker 1: it again, they're talking about the space gods, a dogon
Speaker 1: of Nomo of Serious and then Saturn was also of
Speaker 1: great importance to both Crowley and the Nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nomo is orbiting you guys, did you know that
Speaker 3: Nomo is orbiting Saturn in a spaceship containing his sarcophagal pod.
Speaker 1: That waiting for us to find the Hall of Record
Speaker 1: dot before they can come back.
Speaker 3: That's that was the that was maybe that was the
Speaker 3: anomaly that was trailing Hail Bob that you know, led
Speaker 3: Marshall Applewhite to uh get Heaven's Gate.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Arthur C. Clark talk about them orbiting Saturn? I
Speaker 1: don't know. So now we're getting to Alice Bailey. Yay,
Speaker 1: usual suspects. So the Nine really loved Alice Bailey. They
Speaker 1: regarded her very highly, recommended her books along with Madame Blevatki,
Speaker 1: and these head masters were from Tibet. They were the
Speaker 1: forerunners of the Secret Chiefs of the Golden Dawn. Oh
Speaker 1: project twenty twenty five? What is that to eighty one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Check this out? Okay, So the Tibetan is who spoke
Speaker 1: through Alice Bailey. So this is one of the secret
Speaker 1: Chiefs that they channeled, and they just call them the Tibetan.
Speaker 1: It says the Tibetans teaching center on the coming New Age,
Speaker 1: the Age of Aquarius, for which the hierarchy are preparing humanity.
Speaker 1: This process will be he says, in three phases, the
Speaker 1: first between eighteen seventy five and eighteen ninety, which was
Speaker 1: activated through Blovatski. The second was nineteen nineteen to nineteen
Speaker 1: four nine. The third and final phase was to begin
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five and last until twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, that's when the World Teacher appears.
Speaker 1: Yes, early in the twenty first century, a Great Initiate,
Speaker 1: the World Teacher is to appear, resulting in the emergence
Speaker 1: of a new root race. This, of course, remarkably similar
Speaker 1: to the teachings of Edgar Casey concerning the Hall of Records,
Speaker 1: which he claims would usher in the New Age, the
Speaker 1: return of the Great Initiate and the beginning of a
Speaker 1: new race. The words of the Hierarchy after nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: five were to be transmitted to the world through the
Speaker 1: medium of radio series.
Speaker 3: Well maybe that is that maybe in twenty twenty five. Prediction,
Speaker 3: people in twenty twenty five will receive a strange radio
Speaker 3: signal emanating from Sirius that will give us a new
Speaker 3: algorithmic AI code that they'll decipher with quantum physics and
Speaker 3: a quantum comput using the Gateway process and star. Didn't
Speaker 3: Microsoft do stargate? There's somebody having a stargate right now,
Speaker 3: there's a new star. There's a new thing they called stargate.
Speaker 3: Is it Microsoft? Yeah, it's like a supercomputer mixed in.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: No, Stargate is the I think Stargate is the thing
Speaker 3: that Sam Altman wants to do, which is the nuclear
Speaker 3: facilities that will power the A, the the the AI
Speaker 3: super quantum supercomputer city that will allow them to look
Speaker 3: into deep space, and then that will give us a
Speaker 3: new code.
Speaker 2: And then through that we will.
Speaker 3: Get the World Teacher, which will be a suit you know,
Speaker 3: spiritual AI, antichrist god AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Did you see that? Puharig admitted the Roundtable
Speaker 1: Foundation was inspired by the works of Else Bailey. So
Speaker 1: there's the un again. Let's see. Serious is the equivalent
Speaker 1: of the human third eye in space. Although there are
Speaker 1: many such influences, it is Serious by far the most
Speaker 1: powerful and important. In her book Initiation, Human and Solar
Speaker 1: this is Alice Bailey. She describes a series of past
Speaker 1: taken by initiates they developed spiritually. One of them is
Speaker 1: called the Path of Serious. Oh, the Tibetan says that
Speaker 1: serious energy does not reach the Earth directly, it must
Speaker 1: be first being through Saturn. They also make another major
Speaker 1: connection with the secret teachings of Freemasonry. According to the Tibetan,
Speaker 1: freemasonry is a terrestrial version of the initiatory school that
Speaker 1: exists on Sirious and that the various higher degrees of
Speaker 1: Freemasonry or parallels or analogs to the different levels of
Speaker 1: initiation that the adept must go through in order to
Speaker 1: enter the Great Lodge on Syria.
Speaker 2: Well do I mean, of course I knew that, didn't
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That all of your politicians and elite go and uh
Speaker 1: do these rituals in dark rooms and they worship serious
Speaker 1: and they light right, they've been raised by the grip
Speaker 1: of the Lion's path.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly, they certainly go in and sacrifice at
Speaker 3: the Black Cube, uh, envisioning the ever swirling hellish hexagonal
Speaker 3: poles of Saturn.
Speaker 2: Hell world. I'm talking. I'm talking human animal cameras, spider guts, yes.
Speaker 3: Oh, the hell raisers m no bites, yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 3: live on they live on set.
Speaker 1: They have such sights to show you.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the same with you know, it's the same
Speaker 3: with Event Horizon. Right, it's also a Stargate movie. Do
Speaker 3: you see, right? They have they have a magnetic seeing
Speaker 3: stone made of you know, steel or whatever, and then
Speaker 3: they swirl it open and guess what. Guess what spoiler
Speaker 3: alert the other dimension the wormhole goes straight to Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that stripper pole. That little nause x
Speaker 1: goes down and ground.
Speaker 3: Straight straight down into Hell where he is the Emperor
Speaker 3: worm riding Satan.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Don't you want to be cheated in Giza at the
Speaker 1: Pyramidal Masonic Center.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: And if and if I see Michael Aquino uppear back
Speaker 3: on Earth in a Carl Schwab uniform, I'm going to
Speaker 3: give one of these.
Speaker 1: This says the immigrants from Atlantis for people governed by
Speaker 1: the laws of cosmic Freemasonry, and that's going to get
Speaker 1: interesting in a second. And those who landed in Egypt
Speaker 1: built centers of Masonic initiation from which the country was administered.
Speaker 1: These Contactye philosophies often include beliefs in higher races and
Speaker 1: in totalitarian systems that would eliminate democracy. Now that's what
Speaker 1: AI can also do, right, Yeah, So the new global religion,
Speaker 1: the best way of achieving that goal would be for
Speaker 1: some authoritative and charismatic leader could take control by explaining
Speaker 1: that God or the gods have, over the course of
Speaker 1: history revealed certain truths to different people, which manifest as
Speaker 1: apparently different religions. So these are all the synarchist doctrines
Speaker 1: Alice Bailey and the political esoteric malou in France in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 3: France has a history with these, yes, synarchist movements, the
Speaker 3: oas trying to over using the foreign legion to overthrow
Speaker 3: to Gaul, which, by the way, it turns out the
Speaker 3: Gaul wasn't all bad.
Speaker 2: He was against the UN That's why.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things that people, apparently the globalists
Speaker 3: wanted to get him for. But France's rife with this
Speaker 3: sort of with these milise, with these the milieu of
Speaker 3: synarchic fascist movements.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably still the case.
Speaker 3: And for me, like this book, it's funny because you know,
Speaker 3: the one thing that that the that a lot of
Speaker 3: conspiracy texts you know, get wrong or that people get
Speaker 3: wrong in interpreting them, is the timeline. You know, that's
Speaker 3: kind of the c Boomer thing is like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's happening.
Speaker 2: On this day. You know, show me them tunnels. You
Speaker 2: know it's gonna happen, And it's like, yeah, show me
Speaker 2: them damn aliens.
Speaker 3: But the timeline is never what we think is going
Speaker 3: to be, or some sort of alternate different timeline, you know,
Speaker 3: like with with like with the Johns Hopkins paper twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five and then it's twenty twenty or you know,
Speaker 3: with whatever it happens to be. And the truth of
Speaker 3: all this is that there are there are clearly things working.
Speaker 3: But I see this through the paradigm of of of
Speaker 3: for instance, revelation. You know that there will be a
Speaker 3: an Antichrist. It'll be some sort of mimicry of it'll
Speaker 3: be it'll be a It has to It doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be an AI. It's the only thing that it
Speaker 3: would have to be because it couldn't be a because
Speaker 3: humans are created in the image of God, so it
Speaker 3: couldn't and it and and Satan can't create, so it
Speaker 3: have to be some sort of mimical mimicry. And but
Speaker 3: the eye have not seen, the ear have not heard.
Speaker 2: We don't know the time or the place.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that you know as far as
Speaker 3: like all of this is apocalyptic, you know, all this
Speaker 3: is moving towards some sort of apocalypse. But the fact
Speaker 3: is that we don't know what the timeline of that is,
Speaker 3: and that I think that humans, like now, people are
Speaker 3: so seduced by we're always we always have this like
Speaker 3: apocalyptic mindset that the end is coming soon because of
Speaker 3: how bad things can get. But the fact is that,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as like it's kind of like
Speaker 3: when people talk about overpopulation, it's like I can drive
Speaker 3: from here for forty miles and I'll see thirty people.
Speaker 3: There's so much more to go, you know, the average
Speaker 3: home has like one story. You know, there's we're still
Speaker 3: in you know, we just we just don't we're not
Speaker 3: that far or maybe we are.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. But certainly the things in.
Speaker 3: This have some some truth in terms of how.
Speaker 2: There's this like total.
Speaker 3: Like conglomeration of globalism that's obviously happening in our time,
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 2: The United States is certainly in a sense, you know, a.
Speaker 3: Third Rome in a way, I mean, you know, with
Speaker 3: Rome and then the British Empire and inheriting them and
Speaker 3: all of their accouterment, and then the United states inheriting that,
Speaker 3: and we're sort of we seem to be at the
Speaker 3: start of a long arc towards UH the econdence and
Speaker 3: depravity of the end of Rome, because it's an implosion
Speaker 3: from the inside. We have all of the hallmarks that
Speaker 3: Rome had, with that ancient Rome had with those not
Speaker 3: an exterior thing that's gonna get rid of us, but
Speaker 3: something from the inside where people have lost their beliefs.
Speaker 3: They they've lost any sense of decency. But who knows,
Speaker 3: we might have a long way to go.
Speaker 1: Well, just so many things are being pushed on social media,
Speaker 1: and even em said that the new gods would come
Speaker 1: out of Memphis, the new AI gods, and he was
Speaker 1: even making the connection between you know, Egypt, Memphis, and Memphis, Tennessee. So,
Speaker 1: and he's also been posting things about, you know, we
Speaker 1: need to become like Rome. I know you don't have
Speaker 1: that website, you don't really go to her, but I
Speaker 1: try to send you like the more important things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so he's likened this new administration to UH
Speaker 1: Renaissance and revival of Rome. And also the future is
Speaker 1: going to see AI gods coming out of Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm so glad I don't have it. I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't take it all. But I think that we
Speaker 3: were certainly. You know, it's like if we think things
Speaker 3: are bad, I mean, think about think about during the
Speaker 3: French Revolution when somebody comes in and says, oh guess
Speaker 3: what it's it's thermidor now and everybody's got to go.
Speaker 3: I mean, things were bad. Things are bad throughout time.
Speaker 3: And but that also ties in with now. We're we're
Speaker 3: now living in it in the just the next phase
Speaker 3: of what the French Revolution started, the Industrial Revolution started,
Speaker 3: we're going all the way towards now. There's a that's
Speaker 3: a particular era that's different, and that makes sense with
Speaker 3: these magicians talking about you know, AONs and even with
Speaker 3: with Crowley and and Yates and the White you know,
Speaker 3: the Golden Dawn. I mean, Yates and Crowley had this
Speaker 3: magical battle everybody knows about and look at Yates is
Speaker 3: one of his most famous poems, which is the second coming,
Speaker 3: turning and turning in the Widening Gyre. The falcon cannot
Speaker 3: hear the falcon or the widening gyre is a different
Speaker 3: look at times. So instead of a linear time, we
Speaker 3: have sort of spinning top phases of time like a
Speaker 3: like a tornado, you know, diminishing and then expanding again.
Speaker 2: And what he's talking about that is certainly World War One.
Speaker 3: As the culmination of the Industrial Revolution, and we have
Speaker 3: totally total war, total mechanized warfare. But that just leads
Speaker 3: into a diminished period of kind of not much happening,
Speaker 3: and then and then we're back and I think time,
Speaker 3: the way we live now, things get so condensed, so
Speaker 3: much happens in such a short period of time because
Speaker 3: of technology and information the information war, that.
Speaker 2: We really have to be careful.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the birth pains, right, those
Speaker 1: contracts get shorter and shorter before labor. And so the
Speaker 1: last chapter actually is called End Times Morning. And so
Speaker 1: we have one more round of questions.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to get the first one.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, let's let's immunize the ascita.
Speaker 2: Let's bring on the world to bring on the end times. No,
Speaker 2: don't What.
Speaker 1: Is the name of the nineteen seventy three US government
Speaker 1: commissioned report from SRI International about maintaining control of populations
Speaker 1: through the patriarchal tradition of freemasonry. Hm hm.
Speaker 2: Um. I don't know. The only thing I learned from
Speaker 2: this chapter was the Rallians.
Speaker 1: I don't know, changing images of man.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's yes, that's the book and
Speaker 3: that the book that the book that Jay covered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, here's one. Who is Harry Potter's uncle?
Speaker 2: H oh no, Harry Potter? Who's here? Who's Harry?
Speaker 3: You talk about that dude with the glasses. No, the
Speaker 3: pudgy man, Harry, Harry Potter's uncle. Yeah, the little pudgy man?
Speaker 1: Sia serious?
Speaker 2: Serious? Oh, come on, okay.
Speaker 1: Did you see the movie?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean sort of, I've sort of seen him.
Speaker 3: I've never All I know is that Harry Potter is
Speaker 3: the story of the young Alister Crowley.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, serious, bright right.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, that's yeah. That's Hans Gruber from Diehard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Alan Rickman.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, that that's the teacher.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Gary Old Yeah okay.
Speaker 1: If I had said play you got it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, okay, you thought it was Alan Rickman?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, what Amazonian hallucinogen do the author's posit
Speaker 1: could be the real stargate.
Speaker 2: Ayahuasca got it. Yeah, they talk about d M T.
Speaker 1: Hey. Here's a movie question. Okay, In what movie does
Speaker 1: a light labeled Serious nine? Keness Major fall from the
Speaker 1: Sky in front of the protagonists.
Speaker 3: U the Man who Fell to earth hold on Close
Speaker 3: Encounters of the Third Kind k Pax with Kevin Spacey.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Remember?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I created you for a television show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question, round seven? Yeah, a humdinger. If
Speaker 1: you can helmet, you get two spins? Okay, Ready, what
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two song by Alan Parsons project is about
Speaker 1: the star Serious?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what is it? High
Speaker 2: in the sky helmet, how do we go?
Speaker 1: I in the sky looking at you your mind?
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say humph Close Encounters of
Speaker 3: the Third Kind because Jacques l A Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that song? Right?
Speaker 3: No, I don't know Alan Parsons, I know Graham Parsons. Hmmm,
Speaker 3: he died in Joshua Tree. Okay, okay, I didn't do
Speaker 3: too well and that.
Speaker 2: Damn all right?
Speaker 3: All right, let's go, baby snake eyes. Let's all right,
Speaker 3: come on, give me something here.
Speaker 2: Yes, trip to that's trip to Mars. Look look, yes, within.
Speaker 1: The line, you're going to Mars twice?
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yeah, I'm going up there with Matt Damon.
Speaker 1: Egally, we can't call it Mars. Okay, we have to
Speaker 1: call it mom. Okay, Okay, it's the Martian Experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can't really say it's a trip tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think of that movie?
Speaker 1: I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2: Mad Damon, really Scott.
Speaker 1: He said it was so stupid. I don't need to
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 3: I've seen it. Okay, here's my admission. I've seen that
Speaker 3: movie like four hundred times because because first of all,
Speaker 3: during KRUNKA, I didn't have any Internet for a long time,
Speaker 3: and so I just had DVDs, and I got the
Speaker 3: DVD from the library and it was like one of
Speaker 3: the only DVDs they had, and I would watch it
Speaker 3: over and over, and then it was on television again
Speaker 3: and and I saw it in the theater because it's
Speaker 3: really Scott, but it's it's stupid, but it's like.
Speaker 2: A comfort movie for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, because because like, okay, if they
Speaker 3: need a dude to go up and live like in
Speaker 3: a space pod like on Mars, and I've got like
Speaker 3: if I've got like you know, he's streaming in the movie,
Speaker 3: if I've got like infinite streaming, infinite.
Speaker 2: Books he's got.
Speaker 3: He's got no food, but he's got like vico in
Speaker 3: on like potato on, like a little bread or whatever.
Speaker 2: And he's got music.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I do fine, I'll twirl, I'll twiddle little
Speaker 3: instruments or whatever. I'd be fine. I'd be all right,
Speaker 3: it would be fine. But the stupid thing about the
Speaker 3: movie is his he only has one like CD. He's
Speaker 3: got like a CD or something. The stupid girl brings
Speaker 3: up like Abba and is only listening to like disco,
Speaker 3: and so that's his only thing. Is that I don't
Speaker 3: understand that if you're going to bring music, why would
Speaker 3: you only have one like group on there.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: You need a whole iod if you're going to Mars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I need I need like, yeah, I need
Speaker 3: Apple Apple Music access from Mars, which they I don't
Speaker 3: know why they couldn't give him.
Speaker 1: Well, you can also go to Mars. Yeah. And the
Speaker 1: Stargate Conspiracy, I guess, if we want to put it
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, is that they are fostering a belief
Speaker 1: that extraterrestrial gods created the human race and presided over
Speaker 1: its civilization, and that those gods are about to return, right.
Speaker 1: So this is the foundation of the new religion, space
Speaker 1: brother cults. And even the Pope said that aliens are real,
Speaker 1: and they are space brothers, and if he ever came
Speaker 1: in contact with them, he would baptize them. Remember when
Speaker 1: he said.
Speaker 2: That, yes, so.
Speaker 3: Here are that's maybe that's what he thought. Pacha Mama
Speaker 3: was reanimate it.
Speaker 1: He's an alien, He's like the little Macanie. Page three
Speaker 1: eight says the entire picture seems to have been contrived
Speaker 1: according to a complex long term plan. So our hypothesis
Speaker 1: is that it's demonic, not just government mind control, and
Speaker 1: it's not just contacting aliens actually deminised. So, for example,
Speaker 1: Robert Temple's The Serious Mystery was inspired by Arthur Young,
Speaker 1: who was present at the initial contact with A nine
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty three. Young's own inspiration came from Harry Smith,
Speaker 1: a high ranking member of Al Shakroley's Magical Order, in
Speaker 1: which extratersctural intelligence is from Sirius, Mars and Each and
Speaker 1: Egypt were the great Pillars of their belief. The Nine Communications,
Speaker 1: particularly in the initial stages, seem to continue those of
Speaker 1: Alice Bailey, of which JJ Hirtek The Keys of Enoch
Speaker 1: is essentially an update. Herttech has been the prime mover
Speaker 1: on the face of Mars debate, and the New Egyptology
Speaker 1: and the Keys of Enoch come from the Council of Nine.
Speaker 1: So there you have it all wrapped up in a
Speaker 1: little bow. How all of these philosophies are connected also
Speaker 1: to theosophy which we talk about all the time, which
Speaker 1: is not a retired belief, It is religion of the
Speaker 1: United Nations.
Speaker 2: Right, yes.
Speaker 3: And the thing I was mentioning earlier about Christianity, how
Speaker 3: they write about Christianity is sort of solidified on page
Speaker 3: three point thirty one. This talks about they said control
Speaker 3: of the masses is ultimately what this is about. The
Speaker 3: image it promotes of mankind is essentially negative. It is
Speaker 3: basically the same message that Christianity made Christianity such a
Speaker 3: success as a state sanctioned religion, taking away the autonomy
Speaker 3: of the individual at halting intellectual, scientific, and cultural progress
Speaker 3: for centuries.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, christian mession message maintained that we are
Speaker 3: all born sinners and live only by God's grace. What
Speaker 3: we do I only, it says, our only hope is
Speaker 3: the promise of post mortem bliss, provided that we surrender
Speaker 3: to the dictates of the priesthood. That's well, Christ is
Speaker 3: the king of the universe and will return with a
Speaker 3: flaming sword. And these demonic entities are nothing, you know,
Speaker 3: and and and they you know. I think it's important
Speaker 3: to read books like this and because they get on
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of truth of the way sort
Speaker 3: of things are done, and especially the way things are promoted,
Speaker 3: and in terms of mind control, but alien beings and
Speaker 3: inter dimensional alien beings and you know, being created in
Speaker 3: a simulation or all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: That's promoted as a way to offset what the authors
Speaker 3: point to as what they you know, what people what
Speaker 3: people see this as Christianity is some sort of mind
Speaker 3: to try old device.
Speaker 2: But the whole purpose is that you you you.
Speaker 3: Have free will to make decisions, because that's where that's
Speaker 3: what justice and grace. Otherwise there isn't any And we
Speaker 3: have the ability to choose, and most people choose we all,
Speaker 3: you know, people choose wrong all the time because we're
Speaker 3: flesh and blood, and it's a fallen world. But you know,
Speaker 3: I just think that the end of the book says,
Speaker 3: what's the last? But perhaps there's no better time to
Speaker 3: realize that all men and women themselves are godlike heroes
Speaker 3: of almost unlimited potential. And if there's any whatever writing
Speaker 3: message for the millennium, it's that the time for mankind
Speaker 3: to come of age is long overdue. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 3: a message.
Speaker 1: And well, nowadays you recall that escaping the matrix. You
Speaker 1: hear that from influencers a lot, Right, this is a matrix.
Speaker 1: This is a simulation. I'm gonna teacher you escape the matrix.
Speaker 1: But this New Age religion based on the changing images
Speaker 1: of man because they state that the best way to
Speaker 1: retain control of the masses is the Freemasonic patriarchy and
Speaker 1: the Bailey her tech ideas. The Keys of Enoch will
Speaker 1: become like a new Bible. Even looks like a Bible.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of that book. Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard or seen it? It's got a Manora
Speaker 1: on the cover like em Boston Goal. And for them,
Speaker 1: they say, for those not working with the light, it
Speaker 1: will be a time of great tribulation. Her text house
Speaker 1: cleaning and raw talks about the harvesting of soul. Uh
Speaker 1: is not not going to be a good time if
Speaker 1: you don't believe in nine Right.
Speaker 2: The book is bound in leather made from human skin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So her text system and brain is all the
Speaker 1: major religions of the US, plus ascended masters, Root races, Atlantis.
Speaker 1: It's got all of it. And the contact he philosophies,
Speaker 1: like we said before, would eliminate democracy. And both Kroley
Speaker 1: and Kenneth Grant make a connection between serious and set
Speaker 1: that is not congruent with Egyptology. So here they are
Speaker 1: kind of going off on a little tangent saying Crowley
Speaker 1: has gone out on a limb putting serious and set
Speaker 1: because Sirius was always known as Isis or sowthis right.
Speaker 1: And then the epilogue they talk about the end Times machine,
Speaker 1: they talk about ayahuasca DMKE. So they're saying that this
Speaker 1: is the real stargate, that psychedelic Bros DMT, Terrence mcgenna, McKenna,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, shamanism is the new stargate, right, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: how can primitive Amazonians know the correct like combination of
Speaker 1: two random plants to make you have a nawasca trip,
Speaker 1: and then you talk to these giants suits and they
Speaker 1: tell you that they are DNA. Yeah every time. Oh,
Speaker 1: the cosmic serpent, so that's one of the new nions. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: so the cosmic serpent in the DNA. So they're saying that, Well,
Speaker 1: they talk about this one psychoonot named Jeremy Narby. He
Speaker 1: encountered a pair of gigantic snakes that lectured him on
Speaker 1: his insignificance as a human being and the limits of
Speaker 1: his knowledge. So they they're always dicks like that. But yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the people you meet in the DMT world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am everything and you are nothing. We're the producious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like something a demon would say. But
Speaker 1: then they talk about, you know, the problence of snakes
Speaker 1: and all of these different cultures as imparters of wisdom,
Speaker 1: and then osiris descent into the underworld. Many shamans report
Speaker 1: the same thing. So primitive shamanism is a lot like
Speaker 1: the Egyptian mysteries, right, And he says something really interesting.
Speaker 1: The women can go to these realms without the drugs,
Speaker 1: and they actually help the men through these vision quests,
Speaker 1: so they can talk to the DNA directly. They call
Speaker 1: this remote viewing. So now we're going all the way
Speaker 1: back to the beginning. Oh A. Remote viewers always say
Speaker 1: that they can see alien cities. They can see hyper
Speaker 1: sophisticated technology filled with pyramids, babble towers and minarets. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the One World religion plus et
Speaker 1: basically is the Stargate conspiracy.
Speaker 3: It's also tech, you know, it's these extra dimensional cities
Speaker 3: always mimic the quantum microchip, right the pathways for electrons.
Speaker 3: And like you said that the end is to be
Speaker 3: that's sort of the you know, the serpent. This is
Speaker 3: the Jim Morrison, you know, ride the snake. He's seven
Speaker 3: miles long. He holds the history of the world on
Speaker 3: the scales. It's the serpent in the garden. It's a
Speaker 3: or a boros ketzel quotal, the caduceous. There are they,
Speaker 3: the the those those psychedelic bros also love talking about,
Speaker 3: like the reptilian mind, you know. And and the beginning
Speaker 3: is the end is the beginning. And it makes sense
Speaker 3: that you know, early man, not primitive monkey man. That's
Speaker 3: not a I don't believe in that, it's but early
Speaker 3: man after creation. I mean, yeah, you mentioned in the
Speaker 3: last three tubulcane, you know, and tubul cane and the
Speaker 3: way that human beings go astray so easily, you know,
Speaker 3: into being psychedelic bros, shamanistic, worshiping nature, worshiping themselves and
Speaker 3: wanting to become their own gods always. You know, God
Speaker 3: doesn't like that. And it seems natural that, like we
Speaker 3: are headed towards the thing where, like you said, the
Speaker 3: Stargate is this shaman process of going back to the
Speaker 3: very things that we did before that not we, but
Speaker 3: the people did before. And it seems so easy to
Speaker 3: make your way out of that. But humans and their
Speaker 3: pride just continue to make the same mistakes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, are you ready for the lightning round?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go lightning round. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Based on the nineteen ninety four movie Stargate. Yeah questions
Speaker 1: you ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes?
Speaker 1: What does doctor Jackson give to the leader of the
Speaker 1: alien workers to gain his trust and impress him?
Speaker 2: Uh? Does he give Does he give this his little medallion?
Speaker 1: No, but he was wearing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn what let me think they call him chicken man? Forget?
Speaker 2: What does he give to him?
Speaker 1: Chocolate bar?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I just I like, my favorite character in the whole
Speaker 3: movie is the the like the like Star Wars dog beast.
Speaker 2: Thing, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that rides off with him and then pick the
Speaker 3: avatar thing that picks him.
Speaker 2: It's like leaking his face. Okay.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so you know what's the best thing about that
Speaker 1: movie was actually what soundtrack?
Speaker 2: M m. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The score was amazing and they even use that theme
Speaker 1: for the TV show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is good.
Speaker 3: I thought the best part about the movie was the
Speaker 3: fact that it didn't seem like a movie that Kurt
Speaker 3: Russell would be. And even though Kurt Russell is in
Speaker 3: a lot of sci fi you know, he's in the
Speaker 3: thing He's in you know.
Speaker 2: He's in a lot of John Carpenter movies, and.
Speaker 3: He's you know, he was in the the was the
Speaker 3: Boy with the Computer Shoes or whatever, the first you
Speaker 3: know Disney AI you know computer movie. But in this one,
Speaker 3: it didn't seem like he would be in that. And
Speaker 3: then he ends up as this like Chad soldier. But
Speaker 3: the great part about it was that they pick him
Speaker 3: because he's lost his son, right well, they pick him
Speaker 3: and he's just lost his son. And then when he
Speaker 3: goes to the other planet, and he seems like he's
Speaker 3: there to do the nuke thing. But when he's introducing
Speaker 3: himself to the boy and to the like the children
Speaker 3: of the New Dawn on the new planet, and they
Speaker 3: would reach for his weapons, he pushes them away and
Speaker 3: he doesn't offer an explanation. But we know, we know
Speaker 3: his story and the thing we could see it in
Speaker 3: his eyes that he, you know, still has love to give.
Speaker 3: I thought it was great. It was like a full
Speaker 3: body character in a movie that didn't seem like you
Speaker 3: would have that. Also, also, the uh, the German, the
Speaker 3: German guy that you were talking about, is it Ahart.
Speaker 2: No, it's not Airhart.
Speaker 3: It's the German scientist who introduced them all to to
Speaker 3: all this stuff in one.
Speaker 2: Of the chapters.
Speaker 3: Is seems like it's it seems like the German character
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the movie is based on that guy,
Speaker 3: because the woman who survives into adulthood and has the
Speaker 3: Eye of Rob medallion is German.
Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, next next question, Lightning Russ.
Speaker 1: Okay, how did Colonel O'Neill's sun die?
Speaker 2: Oh he uh yeah, non accident? Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: What constellation does Daniel see on a newspaper that gives
Speaker 1: him a clue about the Stargate symbol.
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not. Is it a Ryan?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is the name of the alien planet Planet X?
Speaker 2: They say plan An X in the movie?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it in the no?
Speaker 1: What is it as?
Speaker 2: Okay? Oh? Like abadon? Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Last question? Which actor from the two thousand movie Gladiator
Speaker 1: also played Horace in nineteen ninety four star Gate?
Speaker 2: Is it Jaiman Huntsu?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, nice?
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, you've got fins. You could totally win
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Speaker 2: All right? Ready, let's go, baby, Come on, give me
Speaker 2: a word. Yes, yes, I got my g box right, yes,
Speaker 2: you will have.
Speaker 1: To slowly watch that go down to zero because you're
Speaker 1: not invert it. You ready?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose everything in this. Damn Please don't get
Speaker 3: a whammy. Come on, come on, give me some big bucks.
Speaker 2: Where's that fall? I can't tell of the covenants? Nice? Nice? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know I get an arc for Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Alright, one more, one more. I'm really excited about this.
Speaker 2: Come on, baby, I gotta win. Come on, let it ride, so.
Speaker 1: Two Egyptian SPA packages, a trip to Mars to Ark
Speaker 1: of the Covenants. You did not get Tesla roadster, and
Speaker 1: you've a million dollars point. But all right, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah for one evening.
Speaker 2: OK that's pretty good. I challenge I challenge the next
Speaker 2: contestant to do better than that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I don't think anyone else is gonna want
Speaker 1: to play that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think I did pretty well on
Speaker 3: the questions that all things being considered, Okay, well I made.
Speaker 1: Them difficult and things that I wanted to like talk about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know points. But I love the show. It was
Speaker 1: really fun. The book was great. It has so much
Speaker 1: stuff in it. I hope you guys stick around for
Speaker 1: all what three half hours of Stargate Conspiracy? Yes, and
Speaker 1: what should we do next?
Speaker 3: I think next we should do I think we should
Speaker 3: do Al Crowley. We got to do something about al Crowley.
Speaker 3: There's this Gary Lachman book that I've got on Alaska
Speaker 3: Crowley and rock and roll, and that's that's that's that's
Speaker 3: always a crowd favorite, I think with people who are
Speaker 3: interested in that. So and I'm really interested in so that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's it called it's called.
Speaker 2: Uh, hold on, I got it. I got it up here,
Speaker 2: hold on, is it red? It's uh magic, rock and
Speaker 2: roll and the Wickedest man in the world. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's.
Speaker 3: It talks about it from like a rock a sort
Speaker 3: of a rock and roll perspective. Gary Lockman was a musician,
Speaker 3: so it's it's got a lot of stuff about David
Speaker 3: David Bowie, David Bowie and the Beatles and the Stones
Speaker 3: and all that stuff in it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds perfect for us. So thank you guys
Speaker 1: for watching, and we'll see you next time with Alish
Speaker 1: for Crole. Is there anything else wanting to say?
Speaker 3: Yes, I will be coming up. Please go to my
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Speaker 3: help me get to four thousand subs. And also you
Speaker 3: were mentioning the matrix. This is one of the next
Speaker 3: things I'm covering. I'm covering inner space and outer space,
Speaker 3: and I'm covering J. G. Ballard's The Drowned World and
Speaker 3: this book by William Gibson, Neuromancer and Neuromanswer is where
Speaker 3: you get the term the matrix. So it's a kind
Speaker 3: of it's a clearly an inspiration on the movie The Matrix.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll be covering next, pure literary stream.
Speaker 1: Okay, very good, and maybe you can give me some
Speaker 1: quiz questions next time. That's right, hard ones to get
Speaker 1: me
Speaker 3: Back, okay, okay, all right, Peace,