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a civilization of clowns. Well, they have this trickster element

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to the gods. They kill us for their sport. And

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the people just for fun, So it sort of makes sense.

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like creating an atmosphere of competition amongst your followers. You know,

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who's going to go the furthest and reveal the mask

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other side to find the truth behind the cosmic joke.

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Speaker 2: It's also chaos. It's just chaotic. Yeah.

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race that is the indigenous to Earth?

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claim to have been a part of in nineteen forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, question you guys. I was like, Jamie, don't

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get that, you know, Gordon Wasson Jacques Valet is mentioned

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in this chapter, but like like Wallace was the follower

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formally inhabited by the Esslin Indian tribe.

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of the Nine page one. Okay, So here talking about

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how they're teachings the Nine have helped shape our cultural

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concepts of space, science, fictions, missions, space mistion, space missions.

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a star Trek like federation.

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the Jewish race was created by Hoova.

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which is aliens, right, And the Nine's basic message is

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sort of scientismic New Age spiritual religion where we're all

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one in a great cosmic brotherhood, I.

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incorporating all of the elements, even Cabbala, even Mormonism, Judaism.

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for New Jerusalem with the USA capital in the middle

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of the word. So it's crazy, he said. Her Tech,

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who wrote The Keys of Enoch the Space Jews right

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said that there's going to be a future upheaval. There's

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gonna be a galactic war and a house cleaning that

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is being completed throughout the universe, a war that will

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also be manifested on Earth with the coming apocalypse followed

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by a golden age in which the new form of

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government will arise. The lesser brotherhoods of Light who work

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with the younger spiritual teachers of Earth are now being

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forced out of their positions of power so that the

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greater forces of light will externalize on this plane. So

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whenever you talk about like cleansing, purifying, purging, those are

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kind of keywords to like tip you off that they

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are talking about like depopulation and mass byoff right, Yeah, yeah,

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totalitarian side of things. You think aliens would be pretty hippie,

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but they're not, right, They are like total totalitarians. They

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are totally for like a government ruled by secret societies.

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and everybody is going to have to be initiated or

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we're really nice.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna make drum circles full of Pleadian dust. We're

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gonna kill everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. You're going to Mars right one way.

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Speaker 3: Well, you notice also in a lot of space movies,

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just as an example, two things that space movies always do.

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They always are doing experiments in space, but they end

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up fixing a nuke satellite.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's a weapon.

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Speaker 3: And then the other thing is they're in the sleep pods,

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and the sleep pods almost always get turned.

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sleep pod. I mean that even starts with two thousand

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and one of Space Odyssey.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that what the new Alien movie was about? Too?

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I haven't seen. I haven't seen that one because it

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looks too squatchy for me. There's too much squashing in that.

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Speaker 1: They're spot on about that. Yeah. Here in chapter five

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says we know Pouhark was working with the CIA on

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experiments with various techniques for inducing altered states of consciousness,

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which is another way of saying he worked on the

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potential of mind control. We also know, at least to

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a point, that Geller worked for them. They want you

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to know how he could use his mind to influence

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inanimate objects and see distant locations, in other words, to

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test the remote influencing abilities where they not and somehow

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part of c I a mind control experiment.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, this, this stuff, This stuff is really interesting

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to me.

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Speaker 3: This book because whenever they talk about you know, the

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Noedic Institute of Noedic Sciences and Palo Alto and the

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Remote Viewing Astral Projection the stargate and that that's really

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interesting to me because that's mon talk project. That's that's

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like use using people who like the people that they

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get in SRI like that got Pat Price, right, that

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they get who's just some the most psychic man in

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the world and is able to draw pictures of you know,

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NSA facilities near near Fort Meade and on Earth these

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places and then can read like another thing, like the

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guy could read the file cabinet underground in the bunker,

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and he named the project with all of the pool

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related things.

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Speaker 2: He said, like there's like cue.

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Speaker 3: Ball, there's four ball, there's there's nine ball, there's eight ball,

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and like that's the name of the project with the

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nuclear launch codes on it.

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Speaker 2: That stuff is that stuff is crazy.

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Speaker 3: And of course, you know, if you were running the program,

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you'd be like, we've got an obvious leak in here.

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Something is wrong or is this disinfo or are these

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people Soviet agents. Is that what's happening? But you know,

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all things like Stranger Things did a great example of

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showing that because when they use eleven, who is a

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Winter Soldier, Montauk Project, traumatized psychokinetic warrior or whatever, she

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goes when she goes into she's in the float tank

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and they show her in the black goo like in

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the in the nothing zone and then she's tapping through

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radio waves to listen to people like that stuff is

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really that's like, that's really.

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Speaker 2: Interesting to me. And I wonder how far.

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Speaker 3: That has gone or if it just melded into something

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like with prism and they can now they can use

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radio frequencies and Wi Fi frequencies to your from your

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house to just map whatever it is. Anyway, how much

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of that is turned into psychotronics.

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Speaker 2: But this is this stuff's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the search for these artifacts or whatever,

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I mean, the motivation behind that is the search to

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control human behavior. That's the goal, and doing that through

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the mind because they can't do it physically to everybody,

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but they can do it mentally, right.

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Speaker 3: You know when they you know, when they talk about

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the Keys of Enoch Enoch, I mean, how much does

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this tie in with because whenever I hear that, I

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think of John D and the Enokian language, right and

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scrying uh and John D mixed with you know, as

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the agent for I mean, there's as a classic painting

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of John D drawing a magic circle in front of

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Queen Elizabeth, you know, and so did he and Edward Kelly.

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Is that like a primative? Is that like a Renaissance

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version of a stargate?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: That they are there's an occult contact with the demonic

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entity through of Citian mirror. And is that what Aleister

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Crowley was doing in that Goesher? What was the ritual

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he did the not the babylon working, the one where

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he did it at is that the one he did

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at his house in Scotland and he left in the

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middle of it, and it was the I think that

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was the Goesia. That was the John D ritual and

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the and what they what's written about it is that

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like it was that one working where you started in

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the middle and you you know, you you cross the abyss.

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But he purposely left in the middle of it to

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leave the game way open.

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Speaker 1: Well, think about this when you draw the magic circle

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on the floor and the pentagram. That's what the opens

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the gate and it's going to star in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Stargate Yeah, and Wormhole is the same thing as Stargate.

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And we did that whole show about parasites how they

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are connected to demonic activity. So Stargate Wormhole, I don't know,

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am I onto something?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that? Is that how they got the

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dune worms?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: My iraqis my desert, my dune.

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Speaker 1: So the Roundtable UH Foundation is also connected to the

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Army's psychological warfare program. You've got funding by Henry Wallace,

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who he's a character himself. He was the one who

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we were talking about. Nikolas Rar convinced him to put

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the Great Seal on the dollar bill.

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Speaker 4: But he he believed that God had chosen America to

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be the leader of the world, and that his own

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place in the scheme of things was hardly that of

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a humble foot soldier.

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Speaker 1: He thought of himself as a messiah. He was also

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deeply interested in mysticism and a prominent freemason, so he

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actually said quote, it will take a more definite recognition

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of the grand architect of the universe before the apex

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Stone is finally fitted into the place, and this nation,

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in the full strength of its power, is in position

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to assume leadership among the nations, inaugurating the new order

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of the ages. So again we're telling people new world

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order is connected to aliens, to Sirius, to the Great Seal,

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to mysticism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be a new world order a thousand

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points alike.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Novus Orders Forum. So then you've got Pharacuh working

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on the kids, the Stranger Things kids. I mean, this

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is the real story of that.

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Speaker 2: M h.

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Speaker 1: It's the real story of X Men first Class and

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Stranger Things. And his name is Andre Proharrik, and he

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was also working on ways to make people hear voices

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in their heads. So this is another mystical experience that

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you could be having with aliens or your channeling or whatever.

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It could just be beamed into your head through technology, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of that video.

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Speaker 3: There's a video going around right now of Tesla with

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the first microphone, you know, picking up those what sounds

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like demonic voices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. I wonder though, if it's that bit.

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Speaker 3: It was funny because I wonder if it's just he

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was in his apartment building and he's just picking up

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other people in the apartment talking like in the apartment

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building about I want yeah, I want some cigarettes on

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my stake sandwich, of course, but it does it does

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sound very strange.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're saying that maybe mystical encounters or like other

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worldly creatures could be basically auditory hallucinations.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, like C. S.

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Speaker 3: Lewis talks about this in Screwtape Letters, I think that

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I think there's something to be said for possession happening

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in auditory sensation. It's not it's not when people talk

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about contacting demons or you know, being possessed or it's

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they usually talk about it in a visual sense what

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they see. But I think that it's probably there's something

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to be more truthful about about hearing things, you know.

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I mean, certainly like schizophrenia and and demonic contacts has

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some sort of there's some mixture of the two, like

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the two are one, you know, And it makes sense

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that when you hear your own voice in your head

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and you're talking and you start to hear something, you

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real if people realize there's something else talking to them,

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I mean, sees just talks about in Screwtable Letters that

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that the demon is job remembering Screwtable latters, He's like,

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your job at Wormwood is not to like move people

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away from prayer. You can't do that. You're not gonna

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You're not gonna physically move a person or appear to

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a person when they're praying, they seem to have like

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a halo around them that protects them. Instead, it's to

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introduce the thought into their head that they've what happened

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to their car keys. So the minute that they think

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about their car keys, now their mind is away from prayer.

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And it's a slight it's a subtle voice in your

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head that moves, that moves you away from something good

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because because evil isn't an active force, it's a something

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that it's a lack of a positive force, or it's

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in a shade or a shadow, or it's something that

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distracts you from that.

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Speaker 2: So it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Point I'm actually reading screw Taale Letters right now for

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rouh huh. Yeah, it's got some great insights into it,

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and that's I think what we're talking about here is

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the demons talking to people because they get into the

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order of the solar Temple and their mass on a

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livings because their beliefs included the existence of ets from

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serious yeah right, and then Star Trek influenced Heaven's Gate

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many Oh, and then that gets really interesting. The contact

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he's of the forties were members of fascist groups. Uh

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huh remember that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he talks about the especially the sin is that

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when he talks about synarchy or is that later later?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Tool Society and and Rudolph Hass

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the It's like in do remember in Dune too, when

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they go to the Iraqis and like there's a a

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black sun like it's it's like they look gray. Dune too,

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and Prometheus and all these are in the same universe

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because the people they're gray, like they look like gray

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aliens because they have a like an anti son, like

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a black son, and everything is in black and white ship,

476
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,480
you know, sort of a gnostic like shade.

477
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't know where I was going with that, Sorry,

478
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:57,400
I was.

479
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: I started thinking about Elvis fighting the little Matador people

480
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:01,920
in Dune too.

481
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,839
Speaker 1: Oh. He did really good in that.

482
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: I thought he did.

483
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: Listen up, chucklehead, they keep talking about this, MOI deeb.

484
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,519
Speaker 1: He was really creepy. He did a good job. But yeah,

485
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,519
So the US government agencies are involved in these cult

486
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:27,519
creation experiments, and the cult called the Guardians had this house.

487
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,880
It was like cults of housewife mediums connected to scientology.

488
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:40,039
So scientology is in this. Back to the Space Kids.

489
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: For a second, what's that other group? Est remember that

490
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,279
mm hmm. Earhart's sensitivity training, the one that the celebrities

491
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:59,880
were involved in. John Lennon and Yoko were involved in it,

492
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:04,079
and Erhard was actually a You wouldn't think he would

493
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:05,960
be a fascist, he would be the other thing.

494
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: But he found it.

495
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:16,279
Speaker 3: He found the nodic sciences at Palo Alto, but he

496
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,960
was that's what you were talking about with the fascistic regime.

497
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what they're kind of hinting at too,

498
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:29,759
with the idea of root races and every race has

499
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,559
an extratrextural mix, except for black people. So that's going

500
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,200
to get taken into weird places. I found them talking

501
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,839
about the Space kids, So it says consider for example,

502
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,720
Pooharic and Deellar kids or Space kids who he tested

503
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,680
and trained during nineteen seventy. They were twenty of them,

504
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400
the youngest nine and the oldest in their lateeen, called

505
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,279
from seven different countries and taken to what became jokingly

506
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,039
known as Pouharak's Turkey Farm at Austin Ining in order

507
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,920
to develop their psychic potential. As we have seen, Pohr

508
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,480
train them in remote viewing. But the target locations he

509
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:08,359
set were significant. They were of military or intelligence interests

510
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240
and included the Pentagon, Kremlin, and even the White House.

511
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,799
And he also experimented on the children in order to

512
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,160
contact extraterrestrial intelligence.

513
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: When you, by the way, when you're mentioning the the voices,

514
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,119
one of the guys that's involved in the overseer of

515
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,279
the program like at SRI was this guy Kit Green,

516
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:43,359
doctor Green. And is he so you remember the Kathy

517
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:47,599
O'Brien tapes. Kathy O'Brien and the other lady who were claimed,

518
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,319
you know, they claim to.

519
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,279
Speaker 2: Be child soldiers.

520
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: Arizona Wild.

521
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: I she the one of the glasses. It's like short

523
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,759
black hair and glasses. There's two of them.

524
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh.

525
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: And they said they said they were part of the

526
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,519
most dangerous game, like as part of their training, they

527
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:07,480
had to do all this stuff, and you know they

528
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,440
were hunted in all this.

529
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: But she mentions doctor Green.

530
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: She says, a man I knew is doctor Green was

531
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,079
her main programmer and did all the you know, he

532
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,000
oversaw the terrible things that made her into this. Is

533
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,319
that the same doctor Green in this kit Green, he's

534
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:24,359
on pitch two forty zero.

535
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the same dude. Maybe because he was.

536
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,640
He was also the guy who later.

537
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: When the there was there was like a Hungarian. There

538
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,640
was some Hungarian who who like had a heart attack

539
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,279
in a public place, and they got his body to

540
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,079
CIA and they had him look at it, and he's

541
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,599
the one who, when it was declassified, said that they

542
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,880
found a ridium pellette that had been shot into him,

543
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,079
which was like one of the first instances of assassination

544
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,680
with Rising, and that nobody would have suspected anything. The

545
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,599
guy was already already had heart problems. He had a

546
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:05,839
heart attack, and this is like post church hearings the

547
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,719
heart attack gun. But when they realized that he was

548
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,760
tied in with somebody in like Hungarian and Soviet Hungarian

549
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,800
or Soviet intelligence and had leaked some secret that he

550
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,239
figured out that the guy had been a sade he

551
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840
found the palette like behind his ear or something in

552
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,719
the lodge of his brain.

553
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's the same guy.

554
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,639
Speaker 1: Could be They're all they were talking about this group

555
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,639
called the Psychic Mafia, and this guy named Ira Einhorn,

556
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:41,679
who they call the universe and he was like Pooharic's protege,

557
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,159
and he was really popular. So in the nineteen seventies

558
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,159
he had a worldwide network of scientists, industrialist, writers, philosophers

559
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,480
off the cutting edge of physics, parapsychology, psychology and other fields.

560
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,480
So he had three hundred and fifty experts from twenty countries,

561
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,679
with himself acting as what he called the planetary catalyst,

562
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,719
circulating information to all members. The network was funded by

563
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Bell Telephone Company. Now you've got this crazy invisible college

564
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,719
going but his girlfriend goes missing.

565
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it is is he? Okay?

566
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,639
Speaker 3: Is he the guy that started earth Day? I don't

567
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,159
know the guy that started earth Day? The same thing happened.

568
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,159
Is that the same guy? Because the guy that started

569
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:33,320
earth Day is the guy who had the girlfriend who

570
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,280
they found in the closet, And then it's got to

571
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:36,599
be him.

572
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says eighteen months later, after they she went missing.

573
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,960
After investigations by private detectives employed by her parents, the

574
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,639
Philadelphia Police searched Einhorn's apartment and found a very badly

575
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:51,800
decomposed girlfriend in the trunk, locked in a cupboard in

576
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,599
the back porch.

577
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is.

578
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: The guy who's overseeing three hundred and fifty worldwide planetary

579
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,960
catalyst people, is a murderer and keeping dead bodies in

580
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:09,800
the cupboard and his porch and Poohr's mental I mean protege.

581
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:16,039
And so when this case was being investigated, it says

582
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,800
Poohr seemed to have been more concerned about recovering papers

583
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,000
about the Geller Kids experiments. He had let them shortly

584
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:24,159
before she disappeared.

585
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: Okay, the guy that found the Earth Day was gay

586
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,559
Lord Nelson.

587
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 1: Okay, but I.

588
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Think the same thing.

589
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: I think that dude did the same thing he did,

590
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,559
like the exact same thing.

591
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

592
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, you've got all of these new Age gurus,

593
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,079
thought leaders, and they're connected to the highest tippy tops

594
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:57,559
of echelons of power. White House funded by established corporations,

595
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:02,000
Bell telephone, and other things that you would not think

596
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:11,559
would be into, like parasites, paranormal research. But even the

597
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,000
books that come out like the people love and are

598
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:19,599
touched by you know, like the Dowel physics. And these

599
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:24,039
people are also involved with the Nine.

600
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the telephone company ever since snowed in in

601
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Titan Point. And then remember that boomer a few years

602
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,079
ago in Nashville, the Christmas Day boomer event on the

603
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,679
telephone Company.

604
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: Yes, AT and T yeah yeah. Oh and guess who

605
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,440
else pops up his little head? John C. Lilly worked

606
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,039
at the Estlin Institute for several years as well as

607
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:59,199
for the CIA, and I mean the Esslin Institute. Actually

608
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,199
they say that the Nine work for them, and uh,

609
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,719
for many many years they were just focused on the

610
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,039
channeling of the Nine to all the people have visited there.

611
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta, I gotta triviua question for you. Shakespeare

612
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,440
is quoted at the end of this chapter. Okay, what

613
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,239
what play is it?

614
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

615
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: Oftentimes to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness,

616
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440
win us with honest trifles, only to betray us in

617
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,400
deepest consequence.

618
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

619
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: It's an occultic play, is it The Tempest?

620
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:56,679
Speaker 2: No, that's that's yes, Macbeth.

621
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Tempest has prosper Prospero is a kind of

622
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,159
John D character. Prosper was played by Shakespeare, you know

623
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:09,000
that himself. Oh really, Yeah, he was supposed to play off.

624
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,480
He played King Hamlet, and he played the character of

625
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:15,280
prosper when he was alive. Because he buries his book

626
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,400
full fathom five, so he's baring his books, so it's

627
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,760
his last supposed to be the end of his playwriting.

628
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,159
Speaker 2: But it's based on John D.

629
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: But this quote to the end of this chapter is

630
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,960
it's pretty cool because it's Macbeth and it's banquote giving

631
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Macbeth a warning saying, like he's saying, when you take

632
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,840
these deals, when you listen to these entities, they give

633
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,280
you things, they give you powers, they give you things,

634
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,519
but they're just trifles, and when you need them the most,

635
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:48,360
they'll betray you and the consequence will be the worst.

636
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:54,440
Which is pretty pretty revelatory for much of the material

637
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,039
in this book. Yeah, a lot, a lot of these

638
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:01,039
people did not end up well, you know, And of

639
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:06,159
course are one over with contracts and the ability to

640
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,000
travel or all the stuff that they went through through

641
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,039
the system that's funding them that alone, and end up

642
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,840
as loose ends.

643
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:27,519
Speaker 1: They are trying to make Star Trek real, and you

644
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:31,199
kind of wonder why this show has such an influence

645
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:39,639
on people, Like not every serial show has these dedicated fans,

646
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,000
multi generational yea that are super into it. And it's

647
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:49,039
probably because it's channeled by you know, extraterrestrial demons and

648
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:50,880
it has a bunch of stuff in there that people

649
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,719
that hooks people. I don't know what you think.

650
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,199
Speaker 3: I think it is strange. It's one of those shows

651
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:05,400
that people tend to think was really big and popular.

652
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,079
I'm not sure it was that pobbay. It didn't run

653
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,440
for that long. The original show didn't run for that long.

654
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:15,960
And you know, it's also one of these weird like

655
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:17,960
lies that were told about the past. I mean, my

656
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,360
anecdotal info for this is like the stuff with the

657
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,519
moon landing. You know that we're told that like every

658
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,679
person in the world stopped what they were doing and

659
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,800
they watched the moon landing on television. It was watched

660
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,760
by forty billion people alive or whatever. And my dad,

661
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,440
I remember my dad telling me one time, like I

662
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,119
didn't watch that, Yeah, nobody watch Like nobody I know

663
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,679
watched that.

664
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: We were out. We were like we're out, you know.

665
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: At a restaurant or something. We were out having fun.

666
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,239
Nobody cared about that. I'm sure people did watch it,

667
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,000
but it's the same sort of thing you're to I

668
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,400
can see that because it's the same sort of thing

669
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,400
you're told about, like the super Bowl. You know, all

670
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,719
these people watched the super Bowl world wide. While I

671
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,000
lived abroad for five years and I was there every

672
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,320
for five years, the super Bowl was happening, and it's like,

673
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:05,880
no one's watching the American super Bowl first of all,

674
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,599
comes on at like two in the morning, so no

675
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:10,920
one's no one cares, no one's watching that. And it's

676
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,880
the same thing with Star Trek. You wonder why it's

677
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,280
so popular, why it made its way, and I think

678
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,199
because the people that it was popular with really saw

679
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,599
something that they could, you know, larp, you could you

680
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:26,599
could live another life, and the same way that outer

681
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,599
space seems to be so popular with people.

682
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,599
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean, just look at now.

683
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the same people that don't believe

684
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,920
in religion believe wholeheartedly and like with water molecule on Mars,

685
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,880
and they really believe in aliens, you know, and how

686
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,920
can we I'm a scientist, you know, of course, I

687
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,719
believe in the probability of people elsewhere, you know, and

688
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,679
it's like, yeah, but your whole thing is is is

689
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,519
physical data, and you don't have any, so why why

690
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:57,119
would that be the And of course quantum, you know,

691
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,320
quantum and all this stuff with quantum and strength like

692
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,320
gets thrown into it. Of course that provides more reason

693
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,920
for people to believe, even though that's not in their paradigm,

694
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,719
to believe it's supposed to be data.

695
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,199
Speaker 2: So I guess that's why it's so popular. I don't know.

696
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,280
I mean I never really cared, so it was kind

697
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,719
of funny.

698
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean it could have been an experiment in programming

699
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,599
I mean programming people, because they talk about you know,

700
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,519
higher intelligences as programmers, and they have a developed theory

701
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:32,119
that human beings are really biocomputers. I mean, that's John C. Lilly, right,

702
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:35,599
he says all human beings are programmed biocomputers.

703
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's this.

704
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: It's probably comes out of the same reason, you know,

705
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:48,480
the same sort of sixties boomer thing where conventional traditional

706
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:52,679
religion is thrown out because of your parents' generation and

707
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,320
so you know.

708
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: LSD and acid and.

709
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,679
Speaker 3: All that gets thrown into it and of course there

710
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:03,400
are looking people and we can star travel and we're

711
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,239
all star seeds, and every man and woman is a star.

712
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,159
Speaker 1: And Captain Kirk is like a panspermia too, because he

713
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,480
goes around sleeping with all the aliens. He does, like

714
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,880
speaking the universe with more DNA.

715
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it would be very popular. You would

716
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960
see how it would make its way all these years

717
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,000
with Spock, because Spock is I saw a new study

718
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,960
the other day that said, like the rates of uh,

719
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,159
let's say, spectral behavior in children has gone from you know,

720
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,760
one in like fifteen thousand a few years. I don't

721
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,119
know what the numbers are, but one in fifteen thousand,

722
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,320
like twenty years ago to now it's like one in five.

723
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,159
Speaker 2: And that's Spock. You know, Spock is a is a.

724
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: I guess, pretty sociopathic person who you know, it's he

725
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,360
is pure logic.

726
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: He has no it's all brain, no heart.

727
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:06,159
Speaker 1: Half vulcan though, too, m so imagine going full vulcan.

728
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:13,280
That's like, right, no empathy whatsoever. Everything is logic. Everything

729
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:20,199
is data. And that's even a character in the New

730
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,360
Star Trek right data.

731
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bro.

732
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: The Secret Masters are chapter six? Are you ready.

733
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,639
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't like these? Yeah? Yeah, no I do.

734
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,000
I'm ready. I'm ready.

735
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,679
Speaker 1: I feel bad, I mean them too hard.

736
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go heay.

737
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,039
Speaker 1: Question, what is the three volume ocult master work by

738
00:45:50,039 --> 00:46:00,360
Schwaler de Lupit's cult.

739
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:12,119
Speaker 3: The Need, the the Needer, the the see.

740
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:21,159
Speaker 2: The nine Principles. No, let let the Temple of Man? Yes, yes, yes, okay, yeah.

741
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: All right.

742
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 1: Next question, what is the term for a government run

743
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,679
by secret societies?

744
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,559
Speaker 2: Uh? Is that the synarchy? Yes?

745
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,519
Speaker 1: Synarchy, We're going to talk about that. Next question, how

746
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:42,679
many original Knights Templar were there? Should be?

747
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:50,119
Speaker 2: Should be obvious? I want to say thirty three nine?

748
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

749
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,199
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, got three spins so far.

750
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: Next question, what is the mysterious underground realm from which

751
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,960
highly all adepts physically directed development of the human race?

752
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:16,599
Speaker 2: Mm? Hmmm, I don't know what is it? Tell me, Garthur,

753
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:19,199
what is it? What is it?

754
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: Gartha?

755
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: Agatha?

756
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Last question, okay, which legendary princess was also

757
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,639
a member of the Sovereign Order of the Solar Temple?

758
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Ye, Princess Grace.

759
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 1: There you go. You got four out of five on

760
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,320
chapter six.

761
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 2: Nice spin for win let's spin it.

762
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you're already going to Egypt, you're going to Mars.

763
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,920
You've got what off the covement? Are you going to

764
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,559
get the car in the furniture?

765
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: I need some of those top g bucks? No whammy? Yeah,

766
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:02,920
hell yeah, I got the tassela roaster, roaster. Let's go.

767
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: What's he playing on the radio and the tel roaster serie?

768
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: Okay, big books, no whammy? All right, the roaster?

769
00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:17,559
Speaker 2: Damn it?

770
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: You got two more?

771
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,599
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right.

772
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to listen to serious.

773
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:26,800
I'd rather listen to grimes.

774
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:30,039
Speaker 1: We appreciate power.

775
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,079
Speaker 2: Got a whammy, it's a whammy.

776
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: Big books, No wammies. Let's get that Roadstert no wammy.

777
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Damn that sucks. Okay.

778
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,679
Speaker 1: Chapter six, getting towards the end, this is like for

779
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,719
me of it. You think this was like, yeah, where

780
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,599
it all comes together. If you're still with us, it

781
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,800
coalesces into ritual magic and everything that we know about

782
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,480
and talk about the usual suspects. It's the secret Masters,

783
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:15,239
it's l Ron Hubbard, it's Alshacrole, it's the Egyptologist. You

784
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,599
know we just talked about respected scholar Sala Dealubits wrote

785
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,960
The Temple of Man. He also wrote about the Nine

786
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,920
in nineteen thirteen in a French theosophical journal. He was

787
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,159
a major political influencer of the twentieth century. Uh. He

788
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,440
was a hermeticist, an alchemist and a proto fascist. So

789
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,480
this is where you are getting a lots of tiny

790
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:48,719
mustache man ideas. Hesse and those guys are interested in

791
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Shuala Dealubits and his mystical ideas. He believed in the

792
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,559
brotherhood of Gleopolis. He wrote under the name Folkanelly about

793
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,280
the mystery of the cathedrals, and he was one of

794
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:12,519
the first to talk about things being encoded into the

795
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:20,039
architecture of Gothic cathedral right eso symbolism. So he thought

796
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,639
that this spiritually elite should be allowed to govern. And

797
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:26,639
that was the question that you got right about.

798
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: What was it called synarchy the opposite the opposite anarchy?

799
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

800
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that there's a I read one time in a

801
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,679
a I think it's in the occult roots of the

802
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:47,880
s S where in the castle of Webelsburg, right, which

803
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,599
was the spiritual home of the ss where they had

804
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:54,800
their round table, the round There is a round table.

805
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,840
There's a round there's an Arthurian roundtable on the wall

806
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,599
at Winch. I think it's a Winchester couldthedral that Edward

807
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:06,840
the first found. But the they had a roundtable that

808
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,360
they also and they had the they look for the

809
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,079
lance of Longenists. They were trying to find what the

810
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:15,280
holy Grail was in terms of their their Uh Sun

811
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,159
Sunwheel brotherhood. They had the black Son on the floor

812
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:22,159
at Babelsburg. Michael Keino did the ceremony in s S Regalia,

813
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,239
but that Himmler saw himself as the spiritual head of

814
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,039
a new Teutonic Knight order and had a throne made

815
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:39,599
of human bones and skulls, which he said, yes, yeah,

816
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:45,639
So it's a sort of apotheosis of.

817
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: Of that group in this synarchic order.

818
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,039
Speaker 1: What was that castle called.

819
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,039
Speaker 2: Wabelsburg w E or w E w E L s

820
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,880
p U r G.

821
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,039
Speaker 1: That's so crazy. So they're getting Yeah, a lot of

822
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:01,920
these ideas for Swala Delubis and the Temple of Man

823
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:06,599
is all about Luxor and Karnak and all of these

824
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,920
Egyptian places, because he's saying that the temples are built

825
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:15,639
on the proportions like the golden proportions of body person's body.

826
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Your body is a temple, and a temple built on

827
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:23,440
these golden ratios also, but he did influence the Nazi

828
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:29,119
beliefs about racial superiority. Actually, the SS uniform was based

829
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:35,159
on one Shwala de Lubis designed for his followers. That's

830
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:35,719
so crazy.

831
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,559
Speaker 2: That was that the TheInk he.

832
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he designed it for the essay and then

833
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,480
it became the essays. I'm sure it inspired Hugo Boss

834
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:48,119
to uh design the one for the ess.

835
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So synarchy and government should have complete control rule

836
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,960
by secret society. Their document mentioned is the creation of

837
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,199
a federal European Union. So they are very much in

838
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:12,119
favor of consolidation of powers and confederacies and united nations.

839
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,000
So this book was written in nineteen ninety nine. Was

840
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:17,000
I don't even think EU then?

841
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: No, he didn't.

842
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: It was well, the it was coming together, but it wasn't.

843
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,159
I was in I was in the UK when they

844
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:29,000
adopted the currency and when they changed the borders.

845
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,159
Speaker 2: One of the one of.

846
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: The ads that ran was a it was controversial at

847
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,920
the time. Was it was just right after this was

848
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,079
a speech by Hotler.

849
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:42,559
Speaker 2: Say you know, and.

850
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: They would run it with film in color saying this

851
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,639
is you know, this is what he wanted or whatever,

852
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:50,639
we're not going to That's why Britain didn't end up

853
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:53,280
adopting the the euro.

854
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: And kept with the pound. Wow.

855
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,599
Speaker 3: But I remember when they when the borders, when the

856
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:00,320
borders opened up, because.

857
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:04,079
Speaker 2: When I let's see in.

858
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: Two thousand, In two thousand and two thousand and one,

859
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:12,639
I think I walked. I was on a European InterRail

860
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:19,800
trip by myself, and I walked from Switzerland to Austria

861
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,480
through Lichtenstein.

862
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,119
Speaker 2: With no borders. Oh that's the country's only five miles wide.

863
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,079
Speaker 3: So I walked from from border through three countries in

864
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,960
the day and there were no borders. And that was

865
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,320
crazy because you know, I've been in Northern Ireland and

866
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,280
of course the border checks were had just shut down there,

867
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,280
but for a different reason.

868
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: But but that was cool.

869
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: That was a big thing for me at the time

870
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,159
because you could have an InterRail pass and you could

871
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,840
just have euros. Actually, the first time I went, they

872
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,480
didn't have the euro yet because I still had to

873
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320
get currency for every I remember having a Danish coroner.

874
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,840
And then when I went back they had the euro.

875
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,079
You can just spend money wherever at any country, and

876
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,880
it was it was it was for there's convenience too,

877
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,079
and it was pretty cool. But obviously that twenty years on,

878
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:08,039
twenty something years on, has resulted in all of the

879
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,719
absolute chaos that we see now.

880
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: And it's crazy to think that this was all. I mean,

881
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,039
it didn't start in nineteen thirteen, but the fomenting of

882
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:26,239
all of these ideas about believing in Atlantis Egypt. I mean,

883
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,199
didn't crazy or tiny mustache man believe in Atlantis?

884
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:33,199
Speaker 2: And that I think so. I think there's a lot

885
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,239
made of that.

886
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: And certainly he was influenced by a tool society and

887
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,199
there was an occult aspect of that, but I think

888
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,239
that it was slightly different with him. I think he

889
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,519
let Himmler run wild with this stuff because of what

890
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:47,079
an engenerate and like you were mentioning earlier, this sort

891
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:51,920
of weird spiritual ecumenism with all of the religions that

892
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:55,960
is sort of what that particular country adopted because they

893
00:55:56,079 --> 00:56:04,239
used because they used the hierarchical system of the Catholic

894
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,719
Church mixed in with the Jesuit you know, a Jesuit

895
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,880
order obviously had influence on on the.

896
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,079
Speaker 2: SSS mixed in with the.

897
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: Kind of weird Germanic fatherland worship, you know, I mean

898
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,320
Hotler continuously made references to Providence in his speeches, right.

899
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,039
He talked about how you know, I'm I'm married to Germany.

900
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,119
Divine Providence has led me to this place. War is

901
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:33,760
the great crucible of human existence. He talks about, I've

902
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,199
been the masses to my will like women. And it

903
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,960
became what we were talking about with this root race thing.

904
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,400
I mean, the A R Y A N thing is

905
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,639
mentioned in here a number of times. So yeah, but

906
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:51,679
I think that was mainly Himmler. I think his thing

907
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,400
was a little a little more uh, pragmatic or something,

908
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,360
and less spiritually wonky like Himmler Lodge.

909
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: Well, they were definitely in touch with, you know, the

910
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,800
Secret Chiefs, right which the Nine says that they are

911
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,599
the secret Chiefs. I wass says that he's one of

912
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:18,760
these secret chiefs. Also from Sirius. The highest initiates of

913
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Croley's Golden Dawn would go into either the OTO or

914
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:27,360
the AA, right, yeah, and the AA if he goes

915
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,800
don't know, it's the Argentium astrom the Order of the

916
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,559
Silver Star, which is serious and it is to be

917
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:39,559
in direct contact with the secret chiefs. And then Crowley

918
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:45,239
actually moved to California for a bit to set up

919
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,679
all of these OTO lodges and make this the main

920
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,119
center of a call activity. And that works so well

921
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:57,639
with scientology and which just Hollywood in general, because that

922
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:03,920
is the you know, the cultural cornerstone of pop culture.

923
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: Right.

924
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: He really was everywhere, I mean, la he spent a

925
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,840
considerable time in New York. Of course, he was in

926
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,000
Berlin The Beast. There's a book, The Beast in Berlin,

927
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,440
and that a lot of the stuff that's denied about

928
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,039
him being a spy, you know, is some sort of

929
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:21,079
triple agent. And and of course has I mean I

930
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,360
forgot to mention hass has Co wrote the Struggle book

931
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,079
with Hotler and with this other guy that you're talking about,

932
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,440
and yeah, and uh I think it's was it Richard,

933
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:35,400
doctor Richard Spence, the one who wrote the book that

934
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,559
said that has his secret flight to Scotland was headed

935
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:43,199
towards that. He was headed towards Lockmaster to meet with Crowley.

936
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:48,639
He was he was the occultist. So yeah, it's possible.

937
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:50,960
Is it possible? Is it possible?

938
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: I like when doctor Phil tries to get to people

939
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,599
to change your mind. He always surts it is it possible.

940
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: I like when he had the girl with with Tourette's

941
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,159
on there, the girl that goes you're bald, You're done,

942
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:07,840
You're done, and he goes listen. At the end of

943
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,960
that show, he goes, listen, I've got a solution for you.

944
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,000
And I believe that you have what you say you have.

945
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,679
But let me ask you a question. What if you didn't?

946
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,679
Thanks for the show.

947
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: That's it?

948
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: You really said that?

949
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it?

950
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:29,599
Speaker 3: I also think of that Ai voice that you see

951
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:33,320
you hear all the time, like on Instagram. And Rudolph

952
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,280
Hess was a man who went in a plane flight

953
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,440
and went off towards Scotland, the guy that does like

954
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:43,480
they used him for the home voices. There's a home

955
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:47,000
somewhere in California, you know I'm talking about.

956
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:50,599
Speaker 1: Oh yes, And when he landed, he tried to parachute

957
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:51,440
right in the cottom.

958
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

959
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,159
Speaker 1: One of the people that they brought in to interrogate him,

960
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:55,960
I think was the.

961
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: Double seven guy, Ian Fleming. Yeah.

962
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. That just came out

963
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,800
of it. Okay, back to serious. Okay, So guess who

964
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,119
else is from serious.

965
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: Who I was.

966
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course, he says, I was is the

967
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,519
type of extraterrestrial intelligence such as we may expect to

968
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:23,760
come into consciousness. The aon develops and elsewhere Grant writes

969
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,119
that talk about Kenneth Grant, He talks about Tom and

970
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:31,840
the Nine. Iwas is the link the quarter through which

971
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,760
the impulse was transmitted from the source of extraterrestrial consciousness.

972
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,920
So ias is some kind of conduit between the Nine

973
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,760
and the public through al Shacroli, because they were happy

974
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,079
just channeling him through to certain people who would then

975
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,679
go on to influence. They want direct communion basically. And

976
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:59,480
they talk about Whitley Strieber in the last part of

977
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,159
this book, but like communion with the ets M.

978
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the famous part where people will know

979
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:14,639
this about Crowley going to Egypt with Rose and she

980
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:20,440
was his medium and directing him towards the exhibit number

981
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:23,079
six sixty six in the museum and it was the

982
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:24,079
statue of Horace.

983
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:28,239
Speaker 2: And then they leave out of the book.

984
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: But after that is when he went into the desert

985
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,920
with I think McGregor math Mathers.

986
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:35,119
Speaker 2: I think that's who it was.

987
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: It was one of those guys that he used and

988
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,559
drew the circle in the sand and fire and did

989
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:43,639
the magic ritual working with me, gave him like peyote

990
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:47,119
and heroin or something, and then stepped out of the

991
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:50,880
magic circle like or pushed him out or something. He

992
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,679
always he always did that, like doing the the working

993
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,920
and then violating the working in the middle of it

994
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:05,679
for contact. But yeah, in the form of raw that's

995
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,039
what I thought you were gonna question me on ra.

996
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:11,239
Speaker 2: I thought there's one question.

997
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: That's too hard.

998
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:21,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one little like obscure thing you remember, Yes,

999
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:32,199
and mm hmm two uh size of the God.

1000
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:34,039
Speaker 2: His daughter Lola Zaza.

1001
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is something on page two sixty nine here

1002
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:43,559
which I found pretty pretty wild, which is the quasi

1003
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,519
Wildean aphorism where he said, always tell the truth but

1004
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:48,840
leads to improbable a life that no one will ever

1005
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,719
believe you. That's that's spycraft. That's that seems to be

1006
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,760
intelligence right there.

1007
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think he always told the truth either. Yeah, yeah,

1008
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,079
just lie about telling the truth, right. Jack Parsons thought

1009
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,800
that the flying Saucers would convert the world to Croley's

1010
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,039
magical religion.

1011
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, maybe he's right. Yeah, and I.

1012
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,039
Speaker 1: Wass is e T. I mean, he looks like he's

1013
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:33,440
everyone's favorite little butt baby. He looks like the gray right.

1014
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Lamb is a pharaoh e T.

1015
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:50,559
Speaker 3: And actually Crowley's Lamb drawing looks like a black Israelite

1016
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:51,480
drawing or something.

1017
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: It does look like yaku. Yeah, so I lost and

1018
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,800
lam are kind of the same ish. But they thought

1019
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,960
that Mars would leave of extreme importance to the religion

1020
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,320
of the future. That's Crowley impartans. In the AA it

1021
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:16,519
says the influence of Aquarius is transmitted through Saturn. And

1022
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:18,719
then we have this character Harry Smith. Have you heard

1023
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,199
of him before this book? I hadn't.

1024
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have, and only because I have a friend,

1025
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,639
an English actor, a friend named Harry Smith.

1026
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:28,679
Speaker 2: But Harry Smith, And this was pretty wild because.

1027
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:39,159
Speaker 3: He's another one of these Crowley type characters who it

1028
01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:41,559
is either the most psychic man in the world and

1029
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,480
a magician or he's a total grifter, you know, and

1030
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:47,360
there seems to be no middle ground.

1031
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,679
Speaker 2: Between the two. But the guy was like involved in everything.

1032
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a hero of the beat generation in

1033
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,599
the hippn uh huh, the oto. He's a Theosophist Freemason family.

1034
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:05,440
He was a Grammy winner for his influence on pop music.

1035
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:12,719
He was a somebody that Bob Dylan looked up to

1036
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,960
Soolkalore On funded by the Grateful Dead.

1037
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:17,719
Speaker 2: That's right.

1038
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he integrated in Nokian magic of John d into

1039
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,559
the OTO and he was also a Tarot deck designer.

1040
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:33,559
He's another one of these guys behind you know, Wizards

1041
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:34,000
of Oz.

1042
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: Let's call up.

1043
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they did an OTO ritual at Saint

1044
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,280
Mark's Church in Saint Mark's Place in New York for

1045
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:40,960
his funeral.

1046
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, yeah, So it says the AA

1047
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:53,880
emphasized the importance of series. The Order was named after it,

1048
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,280
and believed in non human intelligence, which in post for

1049
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,599
California came to be seen as extraterrestrial. These are the

1050
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:06,519
key things. The Robert Temple Serious Mystery, who we now

1051
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,960
know came ultimately from remember the eight A via someone

1052
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,400
who was involved with the Council of Nine and hear

1053
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,599
it again, they're talking about the space gods, a dogon

1054
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:19,000
of Nomo of Serious and then Saturn was also of

1055
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:21,760
great importance to both Crowley and the Nine.

1056
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nomo is orbiting you guys, did you know that

1057
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:32,920
Nomo is orbiting Saturn in a spaceship containing his sarcophagal pod.

1058
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: That waiting for us to find the Hall of Record

1059
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,360
dot before they can come back.

1060
01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: That's that was the that was maybe that was the

1061
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,119
anomaly that was trailing Hail Bob that you know, led

1062
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:51,320
Marshall Applewhite to uh get Heaven's Gate.

1063
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't Arthur C. Clark talk about them orbiting Saturn? I

1064
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,400
don't know. So now we're getting to Alice Bailey. Yay,

1065
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:07,079
usual suspects. So the Nine really loved Alice Bailey. They

1066
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:12,800
regarded her very highly, recommended her books along with Madame Blevatki,

1067
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:18,559
and these head masters were from Tibet. They were the

1068
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:23,559
forerunners of the Secret Chiefs of the Golden Dawn. Oh

1069
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:31,760
project twenty twenty five? What is that to eighty one?

1070
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:32,679
Speaker 2: Oh?

1071
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,679
Speaker 1: Check this out? Okay, So the Tibetan is who spoke

1072
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,639
through Alice Bailey. So this is one of the secret

1073
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:42,679
Chiefs that they channeled, and they just call them the Tibetan.

1074
01:07:42,719 --> 01:07:45,400
It says the Tibetans teaching center on the coming New Age,

1075
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,159
the Age of Aquarius, for which the hierarchy are preparing humanity.

1076
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:51,480
This process will be he says, in three phases, the

1077
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:55,280
first between eighteen seventy five and eighteen ninety, which was

1078
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,760
activated through Blovatski. The second was nineteen nineteen to nineteen

1079
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,559
four nine. The third and final phase was to begin

1080
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:05,079
in nineteen seventy five and last until twenty twenty five.

1081
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: Uh oh, that's when the World Teacher appears.

1082
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,599
Speaker 1: Yes, early in the twenty first century, a Great Initiate,

1083
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:14,239
the World Teacher is to appear, resulting in the emergence

1084
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:17,439
of a new root race. This, of course, remarkably similar

1085
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,840
to the teachings of Edgar Casey concerning the Hall of Records,

1086
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,800
which he claims would usher in the New Age, the

1087
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,239
return of the Great Initiate and the beginning of a

1088
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:29,560
new race. The words of the Hierarchy after nineteen seventy

1089
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,399
five were to be transmitted to the world through the

1090
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,560
medium of radio series.

1091
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Well maybe that is that maybe in twenty twenty five. Prediction,

1092
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:47,600
people in twenty twenty five will receive a strange radio

1093
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,760
signal emanating from Sirius that will give us a new

1094
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:59,000
algorithmic AI code that they'll decipher with quantum physics and

1095
01:08:59,039 --> 01:09:06,359
a quantum comput using the Gateway process and star. Didn't

1096
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:09,199
Microsoft do stargate? There's somebody having a stargate right now,

1097
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:11,399
there's a new star. There's a new thing they called stargate.

1098
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,920
Is it Microsoft? Yeah, it's like a supercomputer mixed in.

1099
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 2: Oh.

1100
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,279
Speaker 3: No, Stargate is the I think Stargate is the thing

1101
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:24,239
that Sam Altman wants to do, which is the nuclear

1102
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:29,399
facilities that will power the A, the the the AI

1103
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:35,359
super quantum supercomputer city that will allow them to look

1104
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,000
into deep space, and then that will give us a

1105
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,479
new code.

1106
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 2: And then through that we will.

1107
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: Get the World Teacher, which will be a suit you know,

1108
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,439
spiritual AI, antichrist god AI.

1109
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Did you see that? Puharig admitted the Roundtable

1110
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:03,279
Foundation was inspired by the works of Else Bailey. So

1111
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:12,199
there's the un again. Let's see. Serious is the equivalent

1112
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:18,720
of the human third eye in space. Although there are

1113
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,000
many such influences, it is Serious by far the most

1114
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:26,319
powerful and important. In her book Initiation, Human and Solar

1115
01:10:26,399 --> 01:10:28,960
this is Alice Bailey. She describes a series of past

1116
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,880
taken by initiates they developed spiritually. One of them is

1117
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:37,640
called the Path of Serious. Oh, the Tibetan says that

1118
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,560
serious energy does not reach the Earth directly, it must

1119
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:47,119
be first being through Saturn. They also make another major

1120
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:50,520
connection with the secret teachings of Freemasonry. According to the Tibetan,

1121
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,359
freemasonry is a terrestrial version of the initiatory school that

1122
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,600
exists on Sirious and that the various higher degrees of

1123
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,000
Freemasonry or parallels or analogs to the different levels of

1124
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,720
initiation that the adept must go through in order to

1125
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,560
enter the Great Lodge on Syria.

1126
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: Well do I mean, of course I knew that, didn't

1127
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,399
You know.

1128
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:21,359
Speaker 1: That all of your politicians and elite go and uh

1129
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,399
do these rituals in dark rooms and they worship serious

1130
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:31,119
and they light right, they've been raised by the grip

1131
01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:31,960
of the Lion's path.

1132
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly, they certainly go in and sacrifice at

1133
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:45,520
the Black Cube, uh, envisioning the ever swirling hellish hexagonal

1134
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:46,359
poles of Saturn.

1135
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: Hell world. I'm talking. I'm talking human animal cameras, spider guts, yes.

1136
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:00,399
Speaker 3: Oh, the hell raisers m no bites, yeah, yeah, they

1137
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,680
live on they live on set.

1138
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: They have such sights to show you.

1139
01:12:09,159 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's the same with you know, it's the same

1140
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,560
with Event Horizon. Right, it's also a Stargate movie. Do

1141
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,960
you see, right? They have they have a magnetic seeing

1142
01:12:22,079 --> 01:12:25,000
stone made of you know, steel or whatever, and then

1143
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:30,319
they swirl it open and guess what. Guess what spoiler

1144
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:33,800
alert the other dimension the wormhole goes straight to Hell.

1145
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that stripper pole. That little nause x

1146
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:40,319
goes down and ground.

1147
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: Straight straight down into Hell where he is the Emperor

1148
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,479
worm riding Satan.

1149
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1150
01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:52,239
Speaker 1: Don't you want to be cheated in Giza at the

1151
01:12:52,319 --> 01:12:53,960
Pyramidal Masonic Center.

1152
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't.

1153
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 3: And if and if I see Michael Aquino uppear back

1154
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,079
on Earth in a Carl Schwab uniform, I'm going to

1155
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:02,680
give one of these.

1156
01:13:06,039 --> 01:13:08,399
Speaker 1: This says the immigrants from Atlantis for people governed by

1157
01:13:08,399 --> 01:13:11,319
the laws of cosmic Freemasonry, and that's going to get

1158
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:15,039
interesting in a second. And those who landed in Egypt

1159
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:19,279
built centers of Masonic initiation from which the country was administered.

1160
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,000
These Contactye philosophies often include beliefs in higher races and

1161
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:34,960
in totalitarian systems that would eliminate democracy. Now that's what

1162
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:45,199
AI can also do, right, Yeah, So the new global religion,

1163
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,439
the best way of achieving that goal would be for

1164
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,520
some authoritative and charismatic leader could take control by explaining

1165
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:57,560
that God or the gods have, over the course of

1166
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,600
history revealed certain truths to different people, which manifest as

1167
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:06,760
apparently different religions. So these are all the synarchist doctrines

1168
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:17,439
Alice Bailey and the political esoteric malou in France in

1169
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,439
the nineteen thirties.

1170
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:29,159
Speaker 3: France has a history with these, yes, synarchist movements, the

1171
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:33,000
oas trying to over using the foreign legion to overthrow

1172
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:35,960
to Gaul, which, by the way, it turns out the

1173
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:38,159
Gaul wasn't all bad.

1174
01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:41,399
Speaker 2: He was against the UN That's why.

1175
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 3: That's one of the things that people, apparently the globalists

1176
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:50,479
wanted to get him for. But France's rife with this

1177
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,760
sort of with these milise, with these the milieu of

1178
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,960
synarchic fascist movements.

1179
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,319
Speaker 2: I think it's probably still the case.

1180
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:08,279
Speaker 3: And for me, like this book, it's funny because you know,

1181
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:13,159
the one thing that that the that a lot of

1182
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:17,079
conspiracy texts you know, get wrong or that people get

1183
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:20,920
wrong in interpreting them, is the timeline. You know, that's

1184
01:15:21,039 --> 01:15:23,479
kind of the c Boomer thing is like, you know,

1185
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,600
it's happening.

1186
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: On this day. You know, show me them tunnels. You

1187
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,840
know it's gonna happen, And it's like, yeah, show me

1188
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,800
them damn aliens.

1189
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 3: But the timeline is never what we think is going

1190
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,880
to be, or some sort of alternate different timeline, you know,

1191
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:43,239
like with with like with the Johns Hopkins paper twenty

1192
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:45,159
twenty five and then it's twenty twenty or you know,

1193
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:48,760
with whatever it happens to be. And the truth of

1194
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,439
all this is that there are there are clearly things working.

1195
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,479
But I see this through the paradigm of of of

1196
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,399
for instance, revelation. You know that there will be a

1197
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,000
an Antichrist. It'll be some sort of mimicry of it'll

1198
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:08,199
be it'll be a It has to It doesn't have

1199
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:13,439
to be an AI. It's the only thing that it

1200
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,199
would have to be because it couldn't be a because

1201
01:16:16,399 --> 01:16:18,479
humans are created in the image of God, so it

1202
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,039
couldn't and it and and Satan can't create, so it

1203
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:28,000
have to be some sort of mimical mimicry. And but

1204
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,039
the eye have not seen, the ear have not heard.

1205
01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:31,399
Speaker 2: We don't know the time or the place.

1206
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that you know as far as

1207
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:35,800
like all of this is apocalyptic, you know, all this

1208
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,119
is moving towards some sort of apocalypse. But the fact

1209
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:41,920
is that we don't know what the timeline of that is,

1210
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,119
and that I think that humans, like now, people are

1211
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:51,039
so seduced by we're always we always have this like

1212
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:55,079
apocalyptic mindset that the end is coming soon because of

1213
01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:57,319
how bad things can get. But the fact is that,

1214
01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:01,199
you know, as far as like it's kind of like

1215
01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:04,119
when people talk about overpopulation, it's like I can drive

1216
01:17:04,359 --> 01:17:07,680
from here for forty miles and I'll see thirty people.

1217
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,159
There's so much more to go, you know, the average

1218
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:15,239
home has like one story. You know, there's we're still

1219
01:17:15,279 --> 01:17:17,800
in you know, we just we just don't we're not

1220
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,720
that far or maybe we are.

1221
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. But certainly the things in.

1222
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,039
Speaker 3: This have some some truth in terms of how.

1223
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,279
Speaker 2: There's this like total.

1224
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,359
Speaker 3: Like conglomeration of globalism that's obviously happening in our time,

1225
01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:39,720
and that.

1226
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: The United States is certainly in a sense, you know, a.

1227
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,199
Speaker 3: Third Rome in a way, I mean, you know, with

1228
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,680
Rome and then the British Empire and inheriting them and

1229
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,520
all of their accouterment, and then the United states inheriting that,

1230
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,720
and we're sort of we seem to be at the

1231
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,560
start of a long arc towards UH the econdence and

1232
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,680
depravity of the end of Rome, because it's an implosion

1233
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,520
from the inside. We have all of the hallmarks that

1234
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,760
Rome had, with that ancient Rome had with those not

1235
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,640
an exterior thing that's gonna get rid of us, but

1236
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,039
something from the inside where people have lost their beliefs.

1237
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:17,239
They they've lost any sense of decency. But who knows,

1238
01:18:17,239 --> 01:18:18,359
we might have a long way to go.

1239
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:27,319
Speaker 1: Well, just so many things are being pushed on social media,

1240
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:35,199
and even em said that the new gods would come

1241
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:39,720
out of Memphis, the new AI gods, and he was

1242
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:46,079
even making the connection between you know, Egypt, Memphis, and Memphis, Tennessee. So,

1243
01:18:47,319 --> 01:18:50,800
and he's also been posting things about, you know, we

1244
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:55,039
need to become like Rome. I know you don't have

1245
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:58,840
that website, you don't really go to her, but I

1246
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,159
try to send you like the more important things. Yeah.

1247
01:19:02,199 --> 01:19:07,840
Well yeah, so he's likened this new administration to UH

1248
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:12,239
Renaissance and revival of Rome. And also the future is

1249
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:16,199
going to see AI gods coming out of Memphis, Tennessee.

1250
01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:20,239
Speaker 3: Right, I'm so glad I don't have it. I can't,

1251
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:25,399
I can't take it all. But I think that we

1252
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,039
were certainly. You know, it's like if we think things

1253
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:30,800
are bad, I mean, think about think about during the

1254
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,239
French Revolution when somebody comes in and says, oh guess

1255
01:19:33,239 --> 01:19:35,680
what it's it's thermidor now and everybody's got to go.

1256
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,000
I mean, things were bad. Things are bad throughout time.

1257
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:41,760
And but that also ties in with now. We're we're

1258
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,159
now living in it in the just the next phase

1259
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:47,119
of what the French Revolution started, the Industrial Revolution started,

1260
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:49,640
we're going all the way towards now. There's a that's

1261
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:54,039
a particular era that's different, and that makes sense with

1262
01:19:54,520 --> 01:20:00,479
these magicians talking about you know, AONs and even with

1263
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,079
with Crowley and and Yates and the White you know,

1264
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:06,319
the Golden Dawn. I mean, Yates and Crowley had this

1265
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,800
magical battle everybody knows about and look at Yates is

1266
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,359
one of his most famous poems, which is the second coming,

1267
01:20:13,399 --> 01:20:16,039
turning and turning in the Widening Gyre. The falcon cannot

1268
01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:19,079
hear the falcon or the widening gyre is a different

1269
01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:21,319
look at times. So instead of a linear time, we

1270
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:25,000
have sort of spinning top phases of time like a

1271
01:20:25,119 --> 01:20:30,199
like a tornado, you know, diminishing and then expanding again.

1272
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: And what he's talking about that is certainly World War One.

1273
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 3: As the culmination of the Industrial Revolution, and we have

1274
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,600
totally total war, total mechanized warfare. But that just leads

1275
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,199
into a diminished period of kind of not much happening,

1276
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:47,880
and then and then we're back and I think time,

1277
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,319
the way we live now, things get so condensed, so

1278
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,159
much happens in such a short period of time because

1279
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:00,760
of technology and information the information war, that.

1280
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: We really have to be careful.

1281
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the birth pains, right, those

1282
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,560
contracts get shorter and shorter before labor. And so the

1283
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:17,880
last chapter actually is called End Times Morning. And so

1284
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,399
we have one more round of questions.

1285
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, let's do it.

1286
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to get the first one.

1287
01:21:28,039 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, let's let's immunize the ascita.

1288
01:21:33,119 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's bring on the world to bring on the end times. No,

1289
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:38,640
don't What.

1290
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:43,279
Speaker 1: Is the name of the nineteen seventy three US government

1291
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:48,520
commissioned report from SRI International about maintaining control of populations

1292
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:55,880
through the patriarchal tradition of freemasonry. Hm hm.

1293
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 2: Um. I don't know. The only thing I learned from

1294
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,720
this chapter was the Rallians.

1295
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, changing images of man.

1296
01:22:16,039 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's yes, that's the book and

1297
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:24,640
that the book that the book that Jay covered.

1298
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn it.

1299
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:32,239
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, here's one. Who is Harry Potter's uncle?

1300
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 2: H oh no, Harry Potter? Who's here? Who's Harry?

1301
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 3: You talk about that dude with the glasses. No, the

1302
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:59,600
pudgy man, Harry, Harry Potter's uncle. Yeah, the little pudgy man?

1303
01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: Sia serious?

1304
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,359
Speaker 2: Serious? Oh, come on, okay.

1305
01:23:07,239 --> 01:23:08,119
Speaker 1: Did you see the movie?

1306
01:23:09,079 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean sort of, I've sort of seen him.

1307
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,920
I've never All I know is that Harry Potter is

1308
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,479
the story of the young Alister Crowley.

1309
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, serious, bright right.

1310
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:27,159
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, that's yeah. That's Hans Gruber from Diehard. Yeah,

1311
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:28,159
Alan Rickman.

1312
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:31,239
Speaker 1: Yes, no, that that's the teacher.

1313
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh it's Gary Old Yeah okay.

1314
01:23:36,119 --> 01:23:39,159
Speaker 1: If I had said play you got it?

1315
01:23:39,319 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, okay, you thought it was Alan Rickman?

1316
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, what Amazonian hallucinogen do the author's posit

1317
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,119
could be the real stargate.

1318
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: Ayahuasca got it. Yeah, they talk about d M T.

1319
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:07,119
Speaker 1: Hey. Here's a movie question. Okay, In what movie does

1320
01:24:07,119 --> 01:24:10,479
a light labeled Serious nine? Keness Major fall from the

1321
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,800
Sky in front of the protagonists.

1322
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 3: U the Man who Fell to earth hold on Close

1323
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:33,920
Encounters of the Third Kind k Pax with Kevin Spacey.

1324
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it? Right? Okay?

1325
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:39,279
Speaker 1: Remember?

1326
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:40,239
Speaker 2: Yes?

1327
01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I created you for a television show.

1328
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question, round seven? Yeah, a humdinger. If

1329
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:56,880
you can helmet, you get two spins? Okay, Ready, what

1330
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,399
nineteen eighty two song by Alan Parsons project is about

1331
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,039
the star Serious?

1332
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what is it? High

1333
01:25:07,039 --> 01:25:10,359
in the sky helmet, how do we go?

1334
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,319
Speaker 1: I in the sky looking at you your mind?

1335
01:25:16,119 --> 01:25:18,239
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say humph Close Encounters of

1336
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:21,680
the Third Kind because Jacques l A Oh, okay.

1337
01:25:21,399 --> 01:25:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that song? Right?

1338
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:29,159
Speaker 3: No, I don't know Alan Parsons, I know Graham Parsons. Hmmm,

1339
01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:34,760
he died in Joshua Tree. Okay, okay, I didn't do

1340
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:35,920
too well and that.

1341
01:25:37,239 --> 01:25:38,359
Speaker 2: Damn all right?

1342
01:25:39,079 --> 01:25:43,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's go, baby snake eyes. Let's all right,

1343
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:49,279
come on, give me something here.

1344
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,079
Speaker 2: Yes, trip to that's trip to Mars. Look look, yes, within.

1345
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: The line, you're going to Mars twice?

1346
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yeah, I'm going up there with Matt Damon.

1347
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: Egally, we can't call it Mars. Okay, we have to

1348
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:10,800
call it mom. Okay, Okay, it's the Martian Experience. Okay,

1349
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,960
we can't really say it's a trip tomorrow.

1350
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think of that movie?

1351
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,079
Speaker 1: I didn't see that one.

1352
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Mad Damon, really Scott.

1353
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,239
Speaker 1: He said it was so stupid. I don't need to

1354
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:22,680
watch it.

1355
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 3: I've seen it. Okay, here's my admission. I've seen that

1356
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:31,079
movie like four hundred times because because first of all,

1357
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:37,079
during KRUNKA, I didn't have any Internet for a long time,

1358
01:26:37,359 --> 01:26:40,079
and so I just had DVDs, and I got the

1359
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:43,079
DVD from the library and it was like one of

1360
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:44,760
the only DVDs they had, and I would watch it

1361
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,439
over and over, and then it was on television again

1362
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,479
and and I saw it in the theater because it's

1363
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,960
really Scott, but it's it's stupid, but it's like.

1364
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,079
Speaker 2: A comfort movie for me.

1365
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why, because because like, okay, if they

1366
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,199
need a dude to go up and live like in

1367
01:27:05,279 --> 01:27:08,560
a space pod like on Mars, and I've got like

1368
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,960
if I've got like you know, he's streaming in the movie,

1369
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,119
if I've got like infinite streaming, infinite.

1370
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Books he's got.

1371
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 3: He's got no food, but he's got like vico in

1372
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,640
on like potato on, like a little bread or whatever.

1373
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:22,119
Speaker 2: And he's got music.

1374
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:24,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I do fine, I'll twirl, I'll twiddle little

1375
01:27:24,399 --> 01:27:26,920
instruments or whatever. I'd be fine. I'd be all right,

1376
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,159
it would be fine. But the stupid thing about the

1377
01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:36,359
movie is his he only has one like CD. He's

1378
01:27:36,359 --> 01:27:39,640
got like a CD or something. The stupid girl brings

1379
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,399
up like Abba and is only listening to like disco,

1380
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:44,399
and so that's his only thing. Is that I don't

1381
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,079
understand that if you're going to bring music, why would

1382
01:27:46,079 --> 01:27:48,119
you only have one like group on there.

1383
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:49,079
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense.

1384
01:27:49,319 --> 01:27:51,319
Speaker 1: You need a whole iod if you're going to Mars.

1385
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I need I need like, yeah, I need

1386
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,880
Apple Apple Music access from Mars, which they I don't

1387
01:27:58,880 --> 01:27:59,920
know why they couldn't give him.

1388
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:08,399
Speaker 1: Well, you can also go to Mars. Yeah. And the

1389
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,560
Stargate Conspiracy, I guess, if we want to put it

1390
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,159
in a nutshell, is that they are fostering a belief

1391
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:18,479
that extraterrestrial gods created the human race and presided over

1392
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,279
its civilization, and that those gods are about to return, right.

1393
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:29,840
So this is the foundation of the new religion, space

1394
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:34,359
brother cults. And even the Pope said that aliens are real,

1395
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,560
and they are space brothers, and if he ever came

1396
01:28:37,039 --> 01:28:41,039
in contact with them, he would baptize them. Remember when

1397
01:28:41,039 --> 01:28:41,560
he said.

1398
01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:44,039
Speaker 2: That, yes, so.

1399
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,199
Speaker 3: Here are that's maybe that's what he thought. Pacha Mama

1400
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:49,880
was reanimate it.

1401
01:28:50,039 --> 01:28:59,319
Speaker 1: He's an alien, He's like the little Macanie. Page three

1402
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,800
eight says the entire picture seems to have been contrived

1403
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:09,640
according to a complex long term plan. So our hypothesis

1404
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:15,840
is that it's demonic, not just government mind control, and

1405
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,039
it's not just contacting aliens actually deminised. So, for example,

1406
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:22,960
Robert Temple's The Serious Mystery was inspired by Arthur Young,

1407
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:25,920
who was present at the initial contact with A nine

1408
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,359
in nineteen fifty three. Young's own inspiration came from Harry Smith,

1409
01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:33,800
a high ranking member of Al Shakroley's Magical Order, in

1410
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,720
which extratersctural intelligence is from Sirius, Mars and Each and

1411
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,880
Egypt were the great Pillars of their belief. The Nine Communications,

1412
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,560
particularly in the initial stages, seem to continue those of

1413
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,800
Alice Bailey, of which JJ Hirtek The Keys of Enoch

1414
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,199
is essentially an update. Herttech has been the prime mover

1415
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:55,760
on the face of Mars debate, and the New Egyptology

1416
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,239
and the Keys of Enoch come from the Council of Nine.

1417
01:29:58,319 --> 01:30:01,239
So there you have it all wrapped up in a

1418
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:07,479
little bow. How all of these philosophies are connected also

1419
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,279
to theosophy which we talk about all the time, which

1420
01:30:10,319 --> 01:30:15,239
is not a retired belief, It is religion of the

1421
01:30:15,319 --> 01:30:16,520
United Nations.

1422
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Right, yes.

1423
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 3: And the thing I was mentioning earlier about Christianity, how

1424
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,119
they write about Christianity is sort of solidified on page

1425
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:34,239
three point thirty one. This talks about they said control

1426
01:30:34,279 --> 01:30:37,319
of the masses is ultimately what this is about. The

1427
01:30:37,359 --> 01:30:40,039
image it promotes of mankind is essentially negative. It is

1428
01:30:40,079 --> 01:30:44,520
basically the same message that Christianity made Christianity such a

1429
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,520
success as a state sanctioned religion, taking away the autonomy

1430
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,479
of the individual at halting intellectual, scientific, and cultural progress

1431
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:51,119
for centuries.

1432
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:52,319
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

1433
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, christian mession message maintained that we are

1434
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,399
all born sinners and live only by God's grace. What

1435
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,239
we do I only, it says, our only hope is

1436
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:04,159
the promise of post mortem bliss, provided that we surrender

1437
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:11,600
to the dictates of the priesthood. That's well, Christ is

1438
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,560
the king of the universe and will return with a

1439
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:22,279
flaming sword. And these demonic entities are nothing, you know,

1440
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,479
and and and they you know. I think it's important

1441
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,520
to read books like this and because they get on

1442
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,159
you know, a lot of truth of the way sort

1443
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:34,239
of things are done, and especially the way things are promoted,

1444
01:31:34,279 --> 01:31:39,319
and in terms of mind control, but alien beings and

1445
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:45,520
inter dimensional alien beings and you know, being created in

1446
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,760
a simulation or all this stuff.

1447
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:48,279
Speaker 2: I mean.

1448
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:55,039
Speaker 3: That's promoted as a way to offset what the authors

1449
01:31:55,079 --> 01:31:57,119
point to as what they you know, what people what

1450
01:31:57,359 --> 01:31:59,680
people see this as Christianity is some sort of mind

1451
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:00,600
to try old device.

1452
01:32:01,319 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: But the whole purpose is that you you you.

1453
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,319
Speaker 3: Have free will to make decisions, because that's where that's

1454
01:32:08,319 --> 01:32:13,800
what justice and grace. Otherwise there isn't any And we

1455
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,760
have the ability to choose, and most people choose we all,

1456
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,640
you know, people choose wrong all the time because we're

1457
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:26,079
flesh and blood, and it's a fallen world. But you know,

1458
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:30,279
I just think that the end of the book says,

1459
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,119
what's the last? But perhaps there's no better time to

1460
01:32:33,159 --> 01:32:36,000
realize that all men and women themselves are godlike heroes

1461
01:32:36,039 --> 01:32:40,359
of almost unlimited potential. And if there's any whatever writing

1462
01:32:40,359 --> 01:32:42,359
message for the millennium, it's that the time for mankind

1463
01:32:42,399 --> 01:32:45,920
to come of age is long overdue. Okay, that's that's

1464
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:46,680
a message.

1465
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: And well, nowadays you recall that escaping the matrix. You

1466
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,479
hear that from influencers a lot, Right, this is a matrix.

1467
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,680
This is a simulation. I'm gonna teacher you escape the matrix.

1468
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:07,279
But this New Age religion based on the changing images

1469
01:33:07,319 --> 01:33:10,880
of man because they state that the best way to

1470
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,600
retain control of the masses is the Freemasonic patriarchy and

1471
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,640
the Bailey her tech ideas. The Keys of Enoch will

1472
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,720
become like a new Bible. Even looks like a Bible.

1473
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,079
I don't know if you've heard of that book. Have

1474
01:33:25,119 --> 01:33:30,359
you ever heard or seen it? It's got a Manora

1475
01:33:30,399 --> 01:33:35,920
on the cover like em Boston Goal. And for them,

1476
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:38,720
they say, for those not working with the light, it

1477
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,640
will be a time of great tribulation. Her text house

1478
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:46,640
cleaning and raw talks about the harvesting of soul. Uh

1479
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,239
is not not going to be a good time if

1480
01:33:49,239 --> 01:33:51,399
you don't believe in nine Right.

1481
01:33:52,119 --> 01:33:54,520
Speaker 2: The book is bound in leather made from human skin.

1482
01:33:58,199 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So her text system and brain is all the

1483
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:05,000
major religions of the US, plus ascended masters, Root races, Atlantis.

1484
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,079
It's got all of it. And the contact he philosophies,

1485
01:34:08,119 --> 01:34:14,399
like we said before, would eliminate democracy. And both Kroley

1486
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,760
and Kenneth Grant make a connection between serious and set

1487
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:22,000
that is not congruent with Egyptology. So here they are

1488
01:34:22,079 --> 01:34:24,119
kind of going off on a little tangent saying Crowley

1489
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:29,479
has gone out on a limb putting serious and set

1490
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:33,560
because Sirius was always known as Isis or sowthis right.

1491
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:38,520
And then the epilogue they talk about the end Times machine,

1492
01:34:39,079 --> 01:34:43,520
they talk about ayahuasca DMKE. So they're saying that this

1493
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:51,000
is the real stargate, that psychedelic Bros DMT, Terrence mcgenna, McKenna,

1494
01:34:52,319 --> 01:34:59,960
Joe Rogan, shamanism is the new stargate, right, Yeah, because

1495
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:05,439
how can primitive Amazonians know the correct like combination of

1496
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,319
two random plants to make you have a nawasca trip,

1497
01:35:08,359 --> 01:35:11,479
and then you talk to these giants suits and they

1498
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:18,199
tell you that they are DNA. Yeah every time. Oh,

1499
01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:22,000
the cosmic serpent, so that's one of the new nions. Yeah, yes,

1500
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,079
so the cosmic serpent in the DNA. So they're saying that, Well,

1501
01:35:26,119 --> 01:35:30,680
they talk about this one psychoonot named Jeremy Narby. He

1502
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,079
encountered a pair of gigantic snakes that lectured him on

1503
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:35,640
his insignificance as a human being and the limits of

1504
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,720
his knowledge. So they they're always dicks like that. But yeah, right,

1505
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,159
the people you meet in the DMT world.

1506
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am everything and you are nothing. We're the producious.

1507
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like something a demon would say. But

1508
01:35:49,239 --> 01:35:51,600
then they talk about, you know, the problence of snakes

1509
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:55,439
and all of these different cultures as imparters of wisdom,

1510
01:35:56,079 --> 01:36:00,359
and then osiris descent into the underworld. Many shamans report

1511
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:08,119
the same thing. So primitive shamanism is a lot like

1512
01:36:08,399 --> 01:36:13,079
the Egyptian mysteries, right, And he says something really interesting.

1513
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:15,680
The women can go to these realms without the drugs,

1514
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,720
and they actually help the men through these vision quests,

1515
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,159
so they can talk to the DNA directly. They call

1516
01:36:24,199 --> 01:36:26,399
this remote viewing. So now we're going all the way

1517
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:35,159
back to the beginning. Oh A. Remote viewers always say

1518
01:36:35,239 --> 01:36:37,720
that they can see alien cities. They can see hyper

1519
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:44,279
sophisticated technology filled with pyramids, babble towers and minarets. So

1520
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,279
it's like, you know, the One World religion plus et

1521
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,840
basically is the Stargate conspiracy.

1522
01:36:53,039 --> 01:36:58,319
Speaker 3: It's also tech, you know, it's these extra dimensional cities

1523
01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:05,159
always mimic the quantum microchip, right the pathways for electrons.

1524
01:37:05,319 --> 01:37:09,640
And like you said that the end is to be

1525
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,920
that's sort of the you know, the serpent. This is

1526
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,119
the Jim Morrison, you know, ride the snake. He's seven

1527
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:16,880
miles long. He holds the history of the world on

1528
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,319
the scales. It's the serpent in the garden. It's a

1529
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,840
or a boros ketzel quotal, the caduceous. There are they,

1530
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,319
the the those those psychedelic bros also love talking about,

1531
01:37:28,319 --> 01:37:32,359
like the reptilian mind, you know. And and the beginning

1532
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,680
is the end is the beginning. And it makes sense

1533
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:39,800
that you know, early man, not primitive monkey man. That's

1534
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,239
not a I don't believe in that, it's but early

1535
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:49,960
man after creation. I mean, yeah, you mentioned in the

1536
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:55,479
last three tubulcane, you know, and tubul cane and the

1537
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,479
way that human beings go astray so easily, you know,

1538
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:05,840
into being psychedelic bros, shamanistic, worshiping nature, worshiping themselves and

1539
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:12,000
wanting to become their own gods always. You know, God

1540
01:38:12,039 --> 01:38:18,880
doesn't like that. And it seems natural that, like we

1541
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,800
are headed towards the thing where, like you said, the

1542
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,680
Stargate is this shaman process of going back to the

1543
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,239
very things that we did before that not we, but

1544
01:38:27,359 --> 01:38:31,920
the people did before. And it seems so easy to

1545
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,640
make your way out of that. But humans and their

1546
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,039
pride just continue to make the same mistakes.

1547
01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:43,199
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, are you ready for the lightning round?

1548
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go lightning round. Let's do it.

1549
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: Based on the nineteen ninety four movie Stargate. Yeah questions

1550
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:52,119
you ready?

1551
01:38:52,279 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes?

1552
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: What does doctor Jackson give to the leader of the

1553
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,199
alien workers to gain his trust and impress him?

1554
01:39:00,119 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 2: Uh? Does he give Does he give this his little medallion?

1555
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:06,079
Speaker 1: No, but he was wearing that.

1556
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn what let me think they call him chicken man? Forget?

1557
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,479
What does he give to him?

1558
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: Chocolate bar?

1559
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:25,199
Speaker 2: Oh?

1560
01:39:25,279 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 3: I just I like, my favorite character in the whole

1561
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:33,720
movie is the the like the like Star Wars dog beast.

1562
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Thing, Oh.

1563
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that rides off with him and then pick the

1564
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:40,840
avatar thing that picks him.

1565
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,159
Speaker 2: It's like leaking his face. Okay.

1566
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Anyway, so you know what's the best thing about that

1567
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,479
movie was actually what soundtrack?

1568
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: M m. Yeah.

1569
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: The score was amazing and they even use that theme

1570
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:52,479
for the TV show.

1571
01:39:53,079 --> 01:39:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is good.

1572
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 3: I thought the best part about the movie was the

1573
01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:00,800
fact that it didn't seem like a movie that Kurt

1574
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,560
Russell would be. And even though Kurt Russell is in

1575
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,159
a lot of sci fi you know, he's in the

1576
01:40:05,159 --> 01:40:07,199
thing He's in you know.

1577
01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 2: He's in a lot of John Carpenter movies, and.

1578
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: He's you know, he was in the the was the

1579
01:40:13,079 --> 01:40:15,520
Boy with the Computer Shoes or whatever, the first you

1580
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,920
know Disney AI you know computer movie. But in this one,

1581
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:20,199
it didn't seem like he would be in that. And

1582
01:40:20,199 --> 01:40:22,119
then he ends up as this like Chad soldier. But

1583
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:25,199
the great part about it was that they pick him

1584
01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:29,039
because he's lost his son, right well, they pick him

1585
01:40:29,039 --> 01:40:30,880
and he's just lost his son. And then when he

1586
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,600
goes to the other planet, and he seems like he's

1587
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,359
there to do the nuke thing. But when he's introducing

1588
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,199
himself to the boy and to the like the children

1589
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:39,760
of the New Dawn on the new planet, and they

1590
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,720
would reach for his weapons, he pushes them away and

1591
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,119
he doesn't offer an explanation. But we know, we know

1592
01:40:47,239 --> 01:40:49,000
his story and the thing we could see it in

1593
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,239
his eyes that he, you know, still has love to give.

1594
01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:52,560
I thought it was great. It was like a full

1595
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,840
body character in a movie that didn't seem like you

1596
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,600
would have that. Also, also, the uh, the German, the

1597
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,000
German guy that you were talking about, is it Ahart.

1598
01:41:03,039 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: No, it's not Airhart.

1599
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 3: It's the German scientist who introduced them all to to

1600
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,039
all this stuff in one.

1601
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Of the chapters.

1602
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: Is seems like it's it seems like the German character

1603
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,159
at the beginning of the movie is based on that guy,

1604
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:18,279
because the woman who survives into adulthood and has the

1605
01:41:18,359 --> 01:41:20,399
Eye of Rob medallion is German.

1606
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, next next question, Lightning Russ.

1607
01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:28,319
Speaker 1: Okay, how did Colonel O'Neill's sun die?

1608
01:41:29,239 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 2: Oh he uh yeah, non accident? Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1609
01:41:36,359 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: What constellation does Daniel see on a newspaper that gives

1610
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,439
him a clue about the Stargate symbol.

1611
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,039
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not. Is it a Ryan?

1612
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is the name of the alien planet Planet X?

1613
01:41:59,399 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: They say plan An X in the movie?

1614
01:42:01,159 --> 01:42:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah?

1615
01:42:02,399 --> 01:42:04,079
Speaker 2: Is it in the no?

1616
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 1: What is it as?

1617
01:42:06,359 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 2: Okay? Oh? Like abadon? Okay, okay.

1618
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: Last question? Which actor from the two thousand movie Gladiator

1619
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,199
also played Horace in nineteen ninety four star Gate?

1620
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 2: Is it Jaiman Huntsu?

1621
01:42:32,079 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: Yes?

1622
01:42:33,239 --> 01:42:34,039
Speaker 2: Yes, nice?

1623
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:39,399
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, you've got fins. You could totally win

1624
01:42:40,079 --> 01:42:43,520
the furnisher, You could totally win the Daddy coin or

1625
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,479
this roadster? You ready?

1626
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:55,279
Speaker 2: All right? Ready, let's go, baby, Come on, give me

1627
01:42:55,279 --> 01:43:01,640
a word. Yes, yes, I got my g box right, yes,

1628
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:04,600
you will have.

1629
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,399
Speaker 1: To slowly watch that go down to zero because you're

1630
01:43:07,399 --> 01:43:11,720
not invert it. You ready?

1631
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose everything in this. Damn Please don't get

1632
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:24,520
a whammy. Come on, come on, give me some big bucks.

1633
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Speaker 2: Where's that fall? I can't tell of the covenants? Nice? Nice? Okay?

1634
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,520
Speaker 1: You know I get an arc for Christmas?

1635
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Alright, one more, one more. I'm really excited about this.

1636
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:50,479
Come on, baby, I gotta win. Come on, let it ride, so.

1637
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:58,239
Speaker 1: Two Egyptian SPA packages, a trip to Mars to Ark

1638
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:00,960
of the Covenants. You did not get Tesla roadster, and

1639
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,800
you've a million dollars point. But all right, that's pretty good.

1640
01:44:05,359 --> 01:44:07,000
Yeah for one evening.

1641
01:44:07,399 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: OK that's pretty good. I challenge I challenge the next

1642
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,159
contestant to do better than that.

1643
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I don't think anyone else is gonna want

1644
01:44:16,119 --> 01:44:16,520
to play that.

1645
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think I did pretty well on

1646
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,199
the questions that all things being considered, Okay, well I made.

1647
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: Them difficult and things that I wanted to like talk about, Yeah,

1648
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:33,840
you know points. But I love the show. It was

1649
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,720
really fun. The book was great. It has so much

1650
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:40,039
stuff in it. I hope you guys stick around for

1651
01:44:40,119 --> 01:44:45,399
all what three half hours of Stargate Conspiracy? Yes, and

1652
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,520
what should we do next?

1653
01:44:50,319 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 3: I think next we should do I think we should

1654
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,840
do Al Crowley. We got to do something about al Crowley.

1655
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,640
There's this Gary Lachman book that I've got on Alaska

1656
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:04,000
Crowley and rock and roll, and that's that's that's that's

1657
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,239
always a crowd favorite, I think with people who are

1658
01:45:06,279 --> 01:45:11,560
interested in that. So and I'm really interested in so that. Yeah,

1659
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,199
what's it called it's called.

1660
01:45:16,119 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: Uh, hold on, I got it. I got it up here,

1661
01:45:20,039 --> 01:45:25,680
hold on, is it red? It's uh magic, rock and

1662
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,199
roll and the Wickedest man in the world. Okay, yeah,

1663
01:45:29,319 --> 01:45:30,439
so it's.

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Speaker 3: It talks about it from like a rock a sort

1665
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,720
of a rock and roll perspective. Gary Lockman was a musician,

1666
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,359
so it's it's got a lot of stuff about David

1667
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,960
David Bowie, David Bowie and the Beatles and the Stones

1668
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:43,840
and all that stuff in it.

1669
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds perfect for us. So thank you guys

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01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,119
for watching, and we'll see you next time with Alish

1671
01:45:51,079 --> 01:45:52,600
for Crole. Is there anything else wanting to say?

1672
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:56,039
Speaker 3: Yes, I will be coming up. Please go to my

1673
01:45:56,119 --> 01:45:59,520
channel at Baselin Analyz. You guys, please give me a subscription,

1674
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,840
help me get to four thousand subs. And also you

1675
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,439
were mentioning the matrix. This is one of the next

1676
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,039
things I'm covering. I'm covering inner space and outer space,

1677
01:46:08,119 --> 01:46:11,079
and I'm covering J. G. Ballard's The Drowned World and

1678
01:46:11,159 --> 01:46:15,880
this book by William Gibson, Neuromancer and Neuromanswer is where

1679
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,840
you get the term the matrix. So it's a kind

1680
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,680
of it's a clearly an inspiration on the movie The Matrix.

1681
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,520
That's what I'll be covering next, pure literary stream.

1682
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: Okay, very good, and maybe you can give me some

1683
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,880
quiz questions next time. That's right, hard ones to get

1684
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:30,960
me

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Speaker 3: Back, okay, okay, all right, Peace,