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Speaker 2: That hit that thing right there there.
Speaker 3: He started on KNBC when you were in kindergarten and
Speaker 3: then I've been on Fox Leve about fifteen years or so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been great and I remember seeing you out in
Speaker 3: the field back in the day. That was fun, toting
Speaker 3: that microphone and the old fashioned tape recorder.
Speaker 2: It's great to be here with you. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. Good, good, good.
Speaker 1: So Phil Schuman in for Gary for a couple of
Speaker 1: days again. We will be out at Crito's in BJ
Speaker 1: or in Crito's at the BJ's coming up on Thursday. Also,
Speaker 1: I agreed to this before I knew that Phil Schuman
Speaker 1: is a from Boston and a Patriots fan and is
Speaker 1: wearing a Rams shirt currently despite the fact they lost
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 3: But due to egregious overtime rules that need to be changed.
Speaker 2: We can get into that later. We will.
Speaker 1: Let's start right now with this massive fire exploded when
Speaker 1: it started Thursday quickly took off. This thing had wheels.
Speaker 1: Blake Trolley from KFI News is on it and joins us. Now, Blake,
Speaker 1: what is the latest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this fire is burned now more than twenty
Speaker 4: thousand acres. That said, Cruz have been able to make
Speaker 4: some progress on this fire. We're told this is in
Speaker 4: the upper elevations of the fire. The fires right now
Speaker 4: three percent surrounded, and again crews are crediting last night's
Speaker 4: cooler temperatures, higher humidity, and the fact that they were
Speaker 4: able to get some water drops down on this fire
Speaker 4: with getting up to that three percent containment. Now, yesterday
Speaker 4: we were told that Running Springs was really the community
Speaker 4: of concern. The fire was moving towards that direction. And
Speaker 4: while Running Springs is definitely not in the clear and
Speaker 4: cruis are still stationed there today, crews have their eyes
Speaker 4: on Forest Falls, So this is to the east of
Speaker 4: Running Springs. We're told that that is the most impacted
Speaker 4: community right now as far as where.
Speaker 2: Firefighters have their eyes.
Speaker 4: That said, with this thunder activity that's happening in the area,
Speaker 4: there have been months tunal thunderstorms in the mountains here
Speaker 4: right now, it's really unpredictable where this fire will move.
Speaker 4: And because of that, firefighters really are watching this fire
Speaker 4: from all sides. From its entire perimeter because it's been
Speaker 4: so unpredictable. Calf Battalion Chief Brent Pasqua says, Saturday was
Speaker 4: a pretty treacherous day for fire crews on the ground.
Speaker 5: On Saturday, we had over three hundred lightning strikes. Luckily,
Speaker 5: we had a little bit of rain so we didn't
Speaker 5: get any new starts from those lightning strikes. But again,
Speaker 5: very hazardous to firefighters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how close did this lightning get to people that
Speaker 4: were on the ground trying to fight these fires?
Speaker 2: Very close? It was very close, so he says, very close.
Speaker 4: Now, miraculously none of these firefighters were struck by that lightning,
Speaker 4: but again he said, it really was a close call
Speaker 4: for those ground crews who are already in a really
Speaker 4: dangerous situation with the terrain here. You know, this is
Speaker 4: very steep country where this fire is burning. We're told
Speaker 4: that some of the dry grass that this fire is
Speaker 4: ripping through is two and a half feet tall. So
Speaker 4: this is the kind of fuel and if you look
Speaker 4: at the incident reports, these are fast runs.
Speaker 2: When this fire gets moving, Blake, it's phils human here.
Speaker 3: So what's it like in terms of leaving coming down
Speaker 3: the mountain? I mean there's not a lot of ways
Speaker 3: in and out of there. Yeah, there's not a lot
Speaker 3: of ways in and out of there.
Speaker 4: And there's several mountain communities that right now are on
Speaker 4: evacuation order, many more that are on evacuation warning, and
Speaker 4: they're saying officials are saying, look, guys, it's better to
Speaker 4: leave now than to wait, because as you say, there,
Speaker 4: I mean, really, there's not that many, you know, ways
Speaker 4: in and out of these mountains. There's really only two
Speaker 4: main ways through if you look at where this fire
Speaker 4: is burning. So crews right now are sorry, officials right
Speaker 4: now are cautioning to people to get out as soon
Speaker 4: as possible.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I have heard some reports that some people were hesitant
Speaker 4: to go, but I think since then, I've yet to
Speaker 4: hear anything about, you know, people being too hesitant. It
Speaker 4: sounds like people are getting out of the area. I
Speaker 4: spoke with some people who live in the area and
Speaker 4: they said that they had gotten.
Speaker 1: Out as this thing eating up any homes yet or
Speaker 1: are we still in just evacuation zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there's more than thirty six thousand structures threatened shed
Speaker 4: and miraculously, so far, none of those structures have been threatened.
Speaker 4: But again, we have another really tough day ahead of us.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're expecting hot, dry, windy weather. Right before
Speaker 4: I got on with you guys, I had heard Brent
Speaker 4: Pascua tell me that they were expecting more thunderstorms. So
Speaker 4: I spoke with the National Weather Service and they said
Speaker 4: that they are anticipating more thunderstorms today, more so in
Speaker 4: the higher regions kind of outside the fire zone. But
Speaker 4: they said, nonetheless, these still could very well end up
Speaker 4: landing in this twenty thousand acre fire perimeter. And what
Speaker 4: fire officials are cautioning right now is that, Yeah, while
Speaker 4: you know, maybe at night, this thing lays down, in
Speaker 4: the afternoon, it picks up. You add that thunder, you
Speaker 4: add that lightning to it, and it gets very unpredictable. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's got to be nothing more terrifying than being a
Speaker 4: home owner or a re renter or a resident and
Speaker 4: you know, looking up at the mountains and seeing that
Speaker 4: flame and smoke on the horizon and wondering.
Speaker 3: How fast it's to get there. The other issue was
Speaker 3: the firefighters. You know, in all that gear with one
Speaker 3: hundred degree temperatures, they can't really work the same hours
Speaker 3: in intensity as they would under normal temperatures right, No.
Speaker 4: I believe they're working a twelve on twelve off. There's
Speaker 4: eighteen hundred fifty five firefighters on scene from across California,
Speaker 4: some from out of state.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I came to this fire on Thursday, Phil and one
Speaker 4: of the most interesting things I found, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if this was it seemed to be coincidental, but
Speaker 4: when we showed up, this fire broke out in Highland
Speaker 4: and it was just north of a neighborhood there, and
Speaker 4: at the time the situation was definitely less critical. The
Speaker 4: fire at this time, I believe when I was there
Speaker 4: was a few hundred acres.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were there in its very early.
Speaker 4: Stages, and I actually saw fire crews from as far
Speaker 4: as New Jersey that were already stationed here. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if that was, you know, just by chance.
Speaker 4: I've been actually trying to like get an answer on that.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, there were out of state cruise. It was
Speaker 4: something me and the other reporters who were on scene
Speaker 4: at the time we're talking about, was like, why are
Speaker 4: the cruise from so far away out? Now we have
Speaker 4: officials confirming, you know that other crews from other states
Speaker 4: are here, But why I do kind of wonder. One
Speaker 4: thing I also want to touch on is I do
Speaker 4: think this is a fire that officials knew was going
Speaker 4: to spread as rapidly as it did when I was
Speaker 4: there that same day.
Speaker 2: This was last week.
Speaker 4: This fire had broken out maybe twelve thirteen hours. I
Speaker 4: already had seen the command post start to be set up,
Speaker 4: which seemed kind of like an excessive response given the
Speaker 4: size of the fire at the time. But obviously they
Speaker 4: had their crystal ball because here we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately, every few years, this is the area that
Speaker 1: is going to be hit with a massive fire, and
Speaker 1: they do know that it takes off, which is why
Speaker 1: they had all hands on deck right away. Blake Trolley,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll check back with you throughout
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 1: First Monday Night Football game of the year kicks off tonight.
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers will host Aaron Rodgers and the
Speaker 1: Jets there in Santa Clara. This is Rogers return from
Speaker 1: his what four play last season rupture as achilles tendon
Speaker 1: during Week one of Monday Night Football last year. So
Speaker 1: kickoff tonight, five point fifteen. I'm looking forward to that one,
Speaker 1: and I mean I'm overjoyed this morning because it's it's
Speaker 1: victory Monday for me. I saw the Chargers win a
Speaker 1: game for the first time and way too long. This
Speaker 1: is a re energized team under Jim Harbaugh. The look,
Speaker 1: the feel, the energy there was insane that one game.
Speaker 3: No, one game, no, no, you know we're going to
Speaker 3: going to the super Bowl already.
Speaker 2: I didn't say we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But you you have no idea what it's like to
Speaker 1: have a five and twelve season with a lame duck
Speaker 1: coach and a team that gives up, because that's what
Speaker 1: last season was. And to cover a team that has
Speaker 1: basically given up.
Speaker 2: Is really rough depress.
Speaker 1: So yesterday it was exciting. Everyone has skin in the game,
Speaker 1: everyone's all in on Jim Harbaugh. And yes, it is
Speaker 1: one game, You're right, but it is. And there were
Speaker 1: more Raiders fans there than Chargers. Well that's the way
Speaker 1: it always is with Raiders have such a stronghold in LA.
Speaker 1: But it would be the same for the Rams. Raiders.
Speaker 3: True, yeah, No, I'm excited. I think that I'm thrilled
Speaker 3: if the Charges were for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they've got a good chance there's
Speaker 1: a lot of missing pieces. But justin Herbert's somebody that
Speaker 1: lifts people up to the occasion, you know when you
Speaker 1: look at that wide receiver corps. But anyway, that's neither
Speaker 1: here nor there. Let's talk about all the drunks. I mean,
Speaker 1: and works at so fine. And she said in her
Speaker 1: head said it was like, we need a Medicare we
Speaker 1: need a medic there?
Speaker 2: Someone's throwing up, someone's passed out.
Speaker 1: People are dropping like flies because it was so hot
Speaker 1: and humid, right, and everyone was just had so much
Speaker 1: pent up NFL energy and week one people did not.
Speaker 2: Know how to act. Well.
Speaker 1: It's also fueled by non stop drinking, right, Oh, people
Speaker 1: are wasted. Yeah, nothing makes you never want to drink again.
Speaker 1: Then an elevator ride full of drunken NFL fans after
Speaker 1: a game in the heat.
Speaker 2: They're they're hot, they're sweaty, they're.
Speaker 1: Drunk, they're loud. It's all bad and you just you're
Speaker 1: in that sounds like your crowd though usually but not
Speaker 1: when I'm working a game. You know me so well already. No,
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm in the elevator every time after
Speaker 1: the games, and I'm just like, nope, I'm never drinking
Speaker 1: again ever.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how they make their money on the Fier.
Speaker 1: But we'll get into all of that big debate coming up.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about this off the air. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just shows that I have no
Speaker 1: life or that I'm a nerd, but I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to this one and the vice presidential debate as well.
Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, I'm totally looking forward to this.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be key for those who
Speaker 3: and it's still shocking to me who they are, but
Speaker 3: people who are still undecided, well, I think this is
Speaker 3: going to make a difference for them.
Speaker 1: I think for the undecided, they've switched back and forth
Speaker 1: a couple times, Like back to the assassination attempt, it
Speaker 1: seemed like Trump had.
Speaker 2: It lucked right. The momentum has swung back, and.
Speaker 1: Then Harris had the best month of any politician in
Speaker 1: the history of the world, and so people kind of
Speaker 1: got on that vandwagon, and so now it's like, is
Speaker 1: there a flip flop opportunity for both of these candidates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what a lot of the experts
Speaker 3: and the political writers and New York Times and CNN.
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about. You know, she has to
Speaker 3: define herself for voters, and he has to continue to
Speaker 3: denigrate her and link her to Biden. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: lots of different ways to look at it. Turn the
Speaker 3: page on devisive, she says, turn the page on divisiveness,
Speaker 3: he says, to negatively shape voters perceptions of the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my Republican friends the
Speaker 1: other day, and he said, if Trump could just stick
Speaker 1: to inflation and the border and leave out crime and
Speaker 1: crime and leave out all of the attibc, I'm better
Speaker 1: looking than her, so dumb, I don't respect you the things.
Speaker 1: What do you think the chances of that happening are? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what they want, you know. I mean how many
Speaker 1: people would that s It's called self control. Who hears
Speaker 1: him attack her or her appearance or whatever and goes.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What does he gain from that, right, other than the
Speaker 3: disciples who are already you know, have drunk the kool aid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's me to the base that's gonna follow
Speaker 1: you wherever, right go.
Speaker 3: Right, So what he has to do is, which which
Speaker 3: seems like a major accomplishment, is to be like normal
Speaker 3: and nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And what she has to do is convince people that, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know I was the vice president that nobody was
Speaker 3: too impressed with a month ago, but I can handle China, Russia, Iraq, Iran,
Speaker 3: Ukraine and the whole big picture that goes along with,
Speaker 3: you know, being the president.
Speaker 1: Not to sound sexist, but she needs to overcome the
Speaker 1: Sarah Palin, I see Russia from my front windows situation.
Speaker 2: You need to show us.
Speaker 1: Your math when it comes to international intelligence and knowledge
Speaker 1: and things like that and policy. They just within the
Speaker 1: past few days put up the policy.
Speaker 3: Right, the issues the on that IRIS website we talked
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It depends on how you look at it.
Speaker 3: Some people want policy details and their position on taxes,
Speaker 3: on immigration, on abortion do some Some people want the
Speaker 3: details and vote based on that. Other people vote because
Speaker 3: they like the person a feeling. And so that to me,
Speaker 3: like if I was if I was David Muir or
Speaker 3: Lindsay Davis, which we would love to do that, right,
Speaker 3: that would be the dream job to moderating debate.
Speaker 2: I would say that President Form President Trump, tell me.
Speaker 3: About your relationship with your wife, tell me about your kids,
Speaker 3: and I would ask the same thing with Harris, and
Speaker 3: you'd get much different answers and much different feeling. Right, Yah,
Speaker 3: you'd get a picture of the person. I mean, was
Speaker 3: the last time that you saw Trump with Milania? Besides never?
Speaker 1: I can answer that question. I don't think there's much
Speaker 1: of a relationship there. I mean, when's the last time contractual? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm just saying would. I wouldn't want that
Speaker 1: kind of insight into their personalities that maybe we wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 1: We've heard Trump, you know, with his two or three points,
Speaker 1: and we understand where Kamala is coming from, but I
Speaker 1: want some insight into their personalities. You make an excellent
Speaker 1: point in the fact that a lot of times with politicians,
Speaker 1: they don't come across as human, and when they do,
Speaker 1: it is so ingratiating. Tim Walls comes across as human,
Speaker 1: even if it's the.
Speaker 2: Coach stick or whatever. You're like, Hey, I like that guy.
Speaker 1: Now, if Trump came out it, just imagine this and
Speaker 1: was not Trump and killed her with kindness and was respectful.
Speaker 2: That's Kamala Harris's worst scenario.
Speaker 3: He did about one minute of it at the speech
Speaker 3: in the r n C after the assassination attempt, remember,
Speaker 3: and then he went right back.
Speaker 2: To his normal true. All right, coming.
Speaker 3: Aching, we're going to be watching, and then we'll obviously
Speaker 3: have plenty to talk about on Wednesday morning, right right.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we can continue with this because they are
Speaker 1: they are preparing very differently. Yeah, we need to get
Speaker 1: into Trump and Harris. We'll talk about that before we
Speaker 1: get to the family from Hell. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: eat anything yesterday because I was at so Far covering
Speaker 1: the Chargers on the sideline and in the greenhouse that
Speaker 1: is Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Oppressive. The heat was awful. It was at least triple
Speaker 1: digits on the field, the humidity there from the roof
Speaker 1: and no breeze to be had, and just sweating and
Speaker 1: just sitting in your sweat, and you just don't you
Speaker 1: just don't want to eat, You can't eat, and you're
Speaker 1: just pounding gatorade. How did the players stay safe? They
Speaker 1: just have to hydrate. They just got a hydrate. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could tell by the end of the game. You
Speaker 1: know they're winded, because in the preseason exactly exactly, it's
Speaker 1: the first week. I mean, you could tell they were
Speaker 1: winded in the first half remembering.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what it's like.
Speaker 1: This is you know, they came off the field and
Speaker 1: they're they're winded, but then kind of got used to it,
Speaker 1: got in the groove as the game went on. But
Speaker 1: I was going to get a cup of noodles because
Speaker 1: that sounded I don't know good this morning, but all
Speaker 1: I had was Whole Foods and they don't have cup
Speaker 1: of noodles there. They also don't sell diet coke. This
Speaker 1: is a vegan rawm and chicken flat cut a noodle
Speaker 1: want to be and it's awful. It's the most awful
Speaker 1: ramen experience I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3: This is what you're eating, instant ramen from Whole Foods
Speaker 3: across the street.
Speaker 1: It's the time of year when I don't make great dietary.
Speaker 3: Husband, can he help you out? You're supporting the family.
Speaker 3: You know he could pack you at lunch.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I know what you mean, though.
Speaker 3: It's so exciting that you cover the Chargers game. You know,
Speaker 3: my dream job, not that you asked me. If you said,
Speaker 3: what could you do if you had your choice of
Speaker 3: any job in the world pro football place in a second?
Speaker 1: In a second, what position I would be a linebacker.
Speaker 1: You would not be a linebacker. No, you you give
Speaker 1: me in my dreams, I'm saying, you give me more
Speaker 1: wide receiver, no cornerback.
Speaker 2: Vine. No, you have to be fast to do that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see you. So you just want to hit
Speaker 1: people in the face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the dream. And that's what's so.
Speaker 3: Football is unlike any other sport, and it's you know
Speaker 3: this because you you're there. It's team building. It's like
Speaker 3: analogous to the military.
Speaker 2: You going to war.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's hard, it's smart, it's challenging, it's fun. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's nothing like being on a team. And I say
Speaker 3: to people that don't follow sports, I feel like they're
Speaker 3: missing something. Yeah, you know you don't have a team
Speaker 3: to follow. Well I watched The Bachelor. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: that's the same thing.
Speaker 1: No, it's the play for each other. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: There are some military analogies you could use. Told this
Speaker 1: story yesterday on the air about Jim Harbaugh. Of course,
Speaker 1: a history of being able to turn around teams quicker
Speaker 1: than anybody anticipates and being able to do He did
Speaker 1: it at Stanford, he did it with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: He did it in Michigan.
Speaker 1: And there's this story that goes back to his Stanford
Speaker 1: coaching days, and he said to the team in one
Speaker 1: of the early games there, he said, if you bleed
Speaker 1: during the game, you're bleeding for your teammates, and then
Speaker 1: said this quote, I want to see your blood. It
Speaker 1: was the first half when of the o linemen gets injured,
Speaker 1: he gets a gash on it. Oh boy, he goes
Speaker 1: to the sideline to get it cleaned up. Harbaugh reaches out,
Speaker 1: takes his hand, wipes the blood off this kid's arm
Speaker 1: and wipes it on his own face. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of war that exists.
Speaker 3: And see, let me make let me let me make
Speaker 3: a connection here. And you might think this is too
Speaker 3: big of a reach, but I don't think so so
Speaker 3: because in the bridge before the break, we're talking about
Speaker 3: the debate and the presidential candidates. So we're talking about
Speaker 3: it's leadership, it's inspiration, it's getting someone fired up.
Speaker 2: It's the qualities that make a great football coach.
Speaker 3: Whether it's Harball, whether it's Sean McVay, whether it's Belichick
Speaker 3: in his own way. You can use that same thing
Speaker 3: in other sports too, but it's more dramatic in football.
Speaker 3: That's what you want in a president, right, someone who
Speaker 3: inspires you, who gets you motivated well.
Speaker 1: And that's why Trump's people love him so much as
Speaker 1: he's the Bobby Knight, right, He's the guy that throws
Speaker 1: the chair across the hardwood and they love that. And
Speaker 1: that's why Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls, whoever has architect of
Speaker 1: this I want to watch this movie because when we're
Speaker 1: at the DNC and we said, who's the architect of
Speaker 1: this movie that we're watching this perfectly scripted, choreographed routine
Speaker 1: that's been the last month of this of this campaign,
Speaker 1: and the people that we talked to, Oh, it's Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: The buck stops with her. She's the one.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, she's not, No, she's not. She is
Speaker 1: not the architect of this movie.
Speaker 3: I want to know there's like a Steven Spielberg behind
Speaker 3: the scenes that you need to identit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which who doesn't get the credit, But I know
Speaker 2: what you mean.
Speaker 3: And there's also this two ways of looking at it
Speaker 3: again though, like do I need to like my president
Speaker 3: or do I just want someone that can get the
Speaker 3: job done and their personal life is their personal life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that seems to be a lot of people's feeling
Speaker 3: about Trump. Yes, right, and where it was Harris. If
Speaker 3: you don't like Harris Is personally and Waltz, something's probably
Speaker 3: wrong with you because they seem like delightful people. So
Speaker 3: there's a real choice here going forward, not just in policy,
Speaker 3: but in personality. And that's why tomorrow is going to
Speaker 3: be so fascinating because, like you said earlier, when Trump
Speaker 3: comes out and just insults her, what does he gain
Speaker 3: from that?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who does he gain? And we talked about undecided voters.
Speaker 1: Who's still undecided?
Speaker 3: And what would she app the microphone app if you
Speaker 3: click on yeah, the talk the talkback feature on the
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. Right, And like, here's here's what I would
Speaker 3: love for people to let us know. What if you're
Speaker 3: still undecided?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Which is mind boggling to me at this point. And
Speaker 3: then let's say you were in the chair of the
Speaker 3: moderator David muiror and Lindsay Davis. Maybe what would you
Speaker 3: ask either one of them like that you think is
Speaker 3: an interesting or different or unique question.
Speaker 1: I liked your question of tell me about your relationship
Speaker 1: with your spouse or whatever. What do you guys do?
Speaker 1: What do you what do you do on a on
Speaker 1: a you have a free Friday night? What are you
Speaker 1: going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that would be interesting because they give you
Speaker 3: some insight that we haven't gotten previously. I mean, we've
Speaker 3: I heard the love story of Kamala and Yug and Docky.
Speaker 2: You know, did you read that article? I sent it
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 1: It was in Politico and it was how they are
Speaker 1: they're framing this like an eighty sitcom, the Harris Walls
Speaker 1: relationship and the campaign, and they we'll get into it
Speaker 1: and swamp watch because it was a really well written
Speaker 1: article about why we have this feel good feeling going
Speaker 1: on with this campaign and it's absolutely by design. It
Speaker 1: is all strategy. I also wanted to mention this. There
Speaker 1: is a new Sienna College New York Times poll, and
Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to poles. Actually Vegas shows Trump
Speaker 1: winning by a landslide in November.
Speaker 2: But they're just trying to move the line.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but this poll is the most funded, the
Speaker 1: best funded. I guess I should say pole that exists.
Speaker 1: And so the New College New York Times poll shows
Speaker 1: the race in a dead heat.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean that's a lot of the poles is
Speaker 2: showing that. It's wild.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they haven't even they haven't done
Speaker 1: anything really, Harrison Walls. I mean, we know what Trump's
Speaker 1: body of work is, we know where he stands. We
Speaker 1: don't really know that much about what that would look
Speaker 1: like with a Harris Wall's presidency because of the movie
Speaker 1: production that we've all been watching and the optics of that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like yesterday when Justin Herbert only had
Speaker 1: seventy three yards and we only had sixteen rushing and
Speaker 1: we were still only behind by one point. You know,
Speaker 1: it's that kind of a thing, like you haven't done
Speaker 1: anything yet and you're still in a dead heat, and
Speaker 1: that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2: Well, how is it because you haven't done anything?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's not that far off from what
Speaker 3: it was when Biden was still the candidate. And then
Speaker 3: Harrison picked up some momentum from the from the DNC
Speaker 3: that she's still trying to maintain.
Speaker 1: Well, she pulls much better than Biden did when it
Speaker 1: comes to a showdown with She's picked up a lot
Speaker 1: of voters that Biden was struggling with, the Latino voting block.
Speaker 2: The younger voting block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so so that's she's been able to make
Speaker 1: up some ground there, but he's made up ground too.
Speaker 2: And you just got to have to follow the money.
Speaker 1: The amount of money being thrown into this campaign on
Speaker 1: either side is incredible.
Speaker 3: Well, and with it so close, that's why things like
Speaker 3: the debate are so important.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, some historically you talk to academics and debates don't
Speaker 3: really matter. It's like, oh, really, what happened in the
Speaker 3: Biden Trump debate. That was pretty much the end of
Speaker 3: the Biden candidacy. So debates definitely matter. But uh, and
Speaker 3: these polls, you know, you have to look at who there,
Speaker 3: who they're questioning. Is it registered voters, is it likely voters,
Speaker 3: is it you know everyone? Yeah, and then obviously the
Speaker 3: margin of errors, it.
Speaker 1: Actually only comes down to a couple of states and
Speaker 1: the undecideds in those states.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the debate will be tomorrow in Philadelphia. Kamala has
Speaker 1: been there studying for days. Trump is going to wing it.
Speaker 1: That's just those two personalities, right, and it's going to
Speaker 1: come across just like that. It'll be ninety minutes hosted
Speaker 1: by ABC, starts at six hour time. It will also
Speaker 1: stream if you're a streamer on Disney Plus and Hulu.
Speaker 2: Big Lots. You ever go to a Big Lots I
Speaker 2: have in my life. Yeah. I think they're will close,
Speaker 2: aren't they?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're filing for bankruptcy. About a month after it
Speaker 1: announced it would be closing hundreds of stores, they said
Speaker 1: in a.
Speaker 2: Statement, I'm not proud of it.
Speaker 1: High inflation and interest rates have hurt customer spending. As
Speaker 1: long as you're not buying like your underwear there or something.
Speaker 3: Well, no, you know what's hurt these stores starts with
Speaker 3: an A rhymes with the sham Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh wow, unbelievable. Yeah, just in my own life.
Speaker 1: How many times do I actually go to a physical
Speaker 1: store anymore?
Speaker 2: Right? Not not unless you have to just the grocery store.
Speaker 1: What about clothes I buy off Instagram straight from China?
Speaker 3: Seriously a lot of the time. Well you have like
Speaker 3: a perfect size too or what? You don't have to
Speaker 3: try on clothes?
Speaker 2: No I do? I send them back? Yeah you can
Speaker 2: do that? Yeah, uh so yeah, Big Lots you know that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of underwear at a discount store, you know, John
Speaker 1: Cobalt buys his underwear and bulk a.
Speaker 2: Place in Lake arrowhead. Why would you know that?
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know why I know that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've worked on the show for a number of years.
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of things that is that is
Speaker 1: inside information. See TV people, you're more buttoned up. You're
Speaker 1: all polite with each other, at least that's how it
Speaker 1: looks on the outside. Everyone's smiling, everyone looks great. You're
Speaker 1: all dressed to perfection. Here we do things a little differently,
Speaker 1: and we know where we buy our underwear from. You know,
Speaker 1: we see we're in a room for so many hours.
Speaker 1: There there's smells, there's there's things that happen.
Speaker 2: It's awful.
Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, all right, all right, this family is awful.
Speaker 1: This of course, we're talking about the school shooter, right
Speaker 1: and over the weekend I started reading about this. Of course,
Speaker 1: the news was last week when you were here. I
Speaker 1: was not here. You were here last week.
Speaker 2: Right now, Marla and Garrett. I thought the afternoon that
Speaker 2: was the week that was Monday.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so this was the school shooter that took
Speaker 1: out four people in the in the high school in Georgia.
Speaker 2: My computer has frozen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then we come to find out about the
Speaker 3: gun that the father bought him, and then we come
Speaker 3: to find out over the weekend the mother phoned the
Speaker 3: school because she got this disturbing text from her son,
Speaker 3: Yeah it sad, and warned them, but they didn't intervene
Speaker 3: in time.
Speaker 1: They said it was cryptic, but I think it said
Speaker 1: something like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She saw that and
Speaker 1: knew that her kid was going to open fire. This
Speaker 1: was a kid who was questioned last year after making
Speaker 1: threats on on social media. On Discord I believe was
Speaker 1: the app he was using.
Speaker 3: Again the downside of social media on the Internet, but.
Speaker 1: Also the upside of waving the red flag and somebody
Speaker 1: seeing it.
Speaker 2: And so he is questioned but not taking action.
Speaker 1: But not taking action, the father is told that his
Speaker 1: son is under investigation for threats, yet despite that, buys
Speaker 1: him in Ar fifteen as a gift, just months after
Speaker 1: the kid is questioned.
Speaker 2: So there were so many failures on so many levels.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then the reaction to it once again, I mean,
Speaker 3: how many of these have we reported on?
Speaker 2: Too many, We've covered them.
Speaker 3: It's like hard in the schools, one hundred percent wrong response.
Speaker 3: Soften the schools find out these kids that are that
Speaker 3: are waiting to explode and get them.
Speaker 2: Help right when they need it. I saw that how
Speaker 2: hard is that that you sent?
Speaker 1: And I thought, wow, that's such an interesting conversation because
Speaker 1: usually the conversation is what is the security in the school?
Speaker 1: Is there an officer at the front, is there an
Speaker 1: officer in the hallways? Are we going to arm the
Speaker 1: teachers with guns? Teachers that don't want to have guns?
Speaker 1: All of this hardening talk, right, but what about getting
Speaker 1: in there and having mental health treat for kids when
Speaker 1: they are showing signs of going that they're going to
Speaker 1: need it. This is the age group where you really
Speaker 1: want to get in there. And just if this kid
Speaker 1: has no one to talk to in his private life,
Speaker 1: having somebody to talk to anywhere would go along.
Speaker 3: One hundred per And school officials and leaders and teachers
Speaker 3: know that. But it's a question of where you spend
Speaker 3: your money. Do we hire do we hire more police officers?
Speaker 3: Do we hire more counselors? Because there's no way to
Speaker 3: make a school impregnable. Well, they're not banks, they're not fortresses,
Speaker 3: they're schools.
Speaker 1: And wouldn't it be nice to get in there when
Speaker 1: these kids are in middle school and and and remove
Speaker 1: the stigma. I mean, we're seeing kids with more psychological
Speaker 1: problems now than ever before. At least they're showing their
Speaker 1: signs and the kids are reporting it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: To get in there and.
Speaker 1: Start exposing these kids to hey, there is help, it's
Speaker 1: it's okay, remove the stigma of anything, because who knows
Speaker 1: what the parents are saying. Like in this case, this
Speaker 1: teenager's grandfather says that the kid was driven by his
Speaker 1: father to do what he did. He called for the
Speaker 1: father to face the death penalty. Now dad has been
Speaker 1: charged in relation to the killings. He admitted to authorities
Speaker 1: that he bought the weapon used in the attack. The
Speaker 1: mother on this side of the family tree has a
Speaker 1: criminal record dating back to two thousand and seven. She
Speaker 1: spent time in jail as recently as this passed April.
Speaker 1: She's been banned from contacting the teenager without a third
Speaker 1: party intermediary. She has a record across four Georgia County's
Speaker 1: drug use, domestic violence, property damage fraud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a pretty picture, but then the question is,
Speaker 3: you know, was was anybody watching this young man? This
Speaker 3: was a new school, different from the one that he
Speaker 3: was attending. When they had when he was interviewed by
Speaker 3: the FBI a year ago. So you'd think that there'd
Speaker 3: be some type of tracking where there's a way to
Speaker 3: you know, this kid when he's school because school just
Speaker 3: started the day before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard from a FBI spokesperson over the weekend and
Speaker 1: she said, just because the FBI reached out once and
Speaker 1: investigated this father son duo, doesn't mean that we continually
Speaker 1: monitor them, right to which I say, well, there's got
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: A happy medium.
Speaker 1: The FBI can't keep tabs on everybody that it investigates
Speaker 1: at every point, but there's got to be especially when
Speaker 1: there's a kid involved in high school and they're going
Speaker 1: through all of the prefrontal cortex development and figuring out
Speaker 1: like you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all schools have that to some degree now,
Speaker 3: like the LAUSD for example, which is what's five hundred
Speaker 3: thousand students, the nation's second largest. They have a very
Speaker 3: formalized crisis Counseling and intervention service program where they try
Speaker 3: to do just that, identify troubled kids, kids with the
Speaker 3: potential problems, kids who have made threats, kids who are bullied,
Speaker 3: which is all of what happened with this kid in
Speaker 3: Georgia and try to intervene. But that's not their primary job,
Speaker 3: right The primary job is education. So it's not an
Speaker 3: easy problem to resolve, as we've seen over and over
Speaker 3: and over again. But when then you hear somebody like
Speaker 3: jd Vance's response is way up to harden the schools,
Speaker 3: it just seems like just a rote response that really
Speaker 3: isn't based on any unrealistic plan.
Speaker 1: As jd Vance said, anything that has helped him, I
Speaker 1: haven't paid it, end to.
Speaker 2: Look for it.
Speaker 1: I haven't really paid attention. It was so nice being
Speaker 1: on vacation last week. By the way, I've never been
Speaker 1: to Mammoth. I've lived here for what nineteen years, never
Speaker 1: had been. I'd heard people say they go up there
Speaker 1: all the time, and I always said, like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a five hour drive.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's five hours. What did you do?
Speaker 2: And it was gorgeous. I mean, I can't wait to
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: Voting, boating, kayaking, boating, went on a hike.
Speaker 2: I did realize though, that.
Speaker 1: Hiking at high elevation and then choosing a hike where
Speaker 1: you gain an other thousand feet probably not a great
Speaker 1: idea when you haven't been acclimated to the high elevation.
Speaker 1: I took this hike maybe less than twelve hours before
Speaker 1: or after we got there, and I'm like halfway up
Speaker 1: this this breathing hard, and I started getting dizzy and
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little nauseous, and.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to drink. You didn't have the ramen
Speaker 2: with you. I didn't listen football season. All bets are off, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't have time the meal playing.
Speaker 3: There are so many great things to do right here
Speaker 3: in California, right and we never do any of them.
Speaker 1: I also hadn't been to Big Serve before. I went
Speaker 1: there earlier this year, but it was great, and Mammoth
Speaker 1: Lakes and all the different lakes and I want to
Speaker 1: go see that one. I want to go see that
Speaker 1: one and just beautiful. And the people up there are
Speaker 1: so nice as well.
Speaker 2: There's so many different parts of California.
Speaker 3: You think of people outside of California think of LA
Speaker 3: and that's it, right, Yeah, maybe San Francisco.
Speaker 1: And those are like the two worst places right now.
Speaker 1: Well what you're looking for, but you got to get
Speaker 1: out there. Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco or Gavenus well
Speaker 1: they both, Yeah, yeah, all right. You know what I
Speaker 1: found too at the DNC. We talked about it a
Speaker 1: little bit on the show when we got back is
Speaker 1: democrats don't love Gavin News. The Democrats in power are
Speaker 1: not fans of Gavenue.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's on the road today and tomorrow
Speaker 3: he's going to end up in Pennsylvania. He's probably going
Speaker 3: to be one of those surrogates in the spin room
Speaker 3: after the debate, okay, supporting her So yeah, fakely his
Speaker 3: star has kind of risen and fallen quickly in the
Speaker 3: past year, but I wouldn't count him out.
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