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Speaker 1: Scrooge.

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Speaker 2: Hush, All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Today.

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We're going to do something a little different, which I

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hope is uh maybe going to take the show in

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a new different direction. I've got some stuff in the

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works here today. I have three guests. I've never had

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a round table panel like this, but I hope we

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get several more going. And I'm honored to be joined

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with Thomas seven seven and Pete Kenones. I also have

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my sort of co host. I think of him as

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like a co host, even though he's only been on

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here one time. Stormy Waters, me and here have been

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cooking up quite a lot of content for the near future,

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and we've been having some discussions on you know, what,

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what does the Trump presidency mean for the right wing?

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Where's the right wing at now? And where are we

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going to go, what are we gonna do, what is

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it going to look like, how is it going to change?

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But also where's it been, where's it coming from? So

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we're trying to work out a series of roundtable discussions

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like this, and we decided that the perfect person to

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start this all off with would be Thomas Triple seven.

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So I'm honored and proud and glad to have you here.

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Thomas and Pete as well. Thank you guys both for

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coming on.

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Speaker 1: Say hello, oh yeah, thanks for hosting you. Ian, Yeah,

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thanks Mike, thanks for the er boys. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I was telling Pete, I've been following his content for

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quite a long time. It feels like we're on the

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same trajectory. And actually today's episode was inspired by a

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conversation that Thomas and Peter had. They've been having a

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series of conversations on Peter's Peter's platforms YouTube where I

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catch it, and you know, there's a lot of food

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for thought there, there's a lot of fodder for discussion

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and Tom I caught something Thomas said once that Thomas,

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I don't know if you've elaborated on this elsewhere, but

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in the episode on Yaki that you did with Pete,

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you guys talked about Spangler and Yaki a lot. You

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said something to the effect of there hasn't really been

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a right wing since nineteen forty five. And not only

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did you say that, but you said something like, there

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can't be a right wing since nineteen forty five. But

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in that episode in particular, you didn't elaborate on that.

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I think that's a really good place to start this

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conversation we want to have here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a subject of the manuscript I'm

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working on now. There's a couple of things. I mean,

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there's a couple of things that underli that, okay, Like,

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first and foremost, the rose ofvel administration. It was as

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revolutionary as the Third Right and as the Soviet Union,

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like the government that you know, conquered the the the

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political structure of the Soviet Union. I mean, yeah, it

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wasn't revolutionary in the sense that there's some sort of

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violent overthrow of the extant order or something. But it

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was a total restructuring of government, okay. And what came

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within the purview of of federal mandate, what was considered appropriate,

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you know, ethically, philosophically, practically in terms of you know, uh,

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federal authority. This this represented a total kind of change

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in perspective, okay. You know, like the regime you would

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wonder today it's not like the legacy government of George

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Washington or something, Okay, it's it's it's the New Deal regime.

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I mean, there's been changes to it. You know, like

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the Reagan administration, the deregulated a whole bunch of things. Uh,

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you know, and uh, the financialization of the economy. I mean,

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obviously that changes things. But the core of it, and

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it's most importantly for purposes of this discussion, and we

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just asked me the core of it. It's ethical rationale,

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it's it's kind of civic narrative, it's political theology like

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that that is one hundred percent derivative of the New

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Deal Revolution. Now what the American right wing was after

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the War between the States. You know, despite Wilson being

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held out as a big liberal, like he wasn't in

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the contemporary sense. He was a segregationist. He had he

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had a lot of love for lost Cause. His historians,

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it was Wilson that commissioned all these Confederate monuments because

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it's Shelby Foot called the agreement you know, in the

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decades after worked in the States, was we we honor

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each other's wordad and like we recognize like the valor

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and honor of each other's you know, politics and and

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and and fallen servicemen, you know, and Wilson's Wilsonian like nationalism,

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like yeah, I mean, that's that's very much like a

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post a post seventeen eighty nine kind of conservatism, which

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it wasn't. It wasn't like progressive and in terms of

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like the social engineering regime that we think of it, see,

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than you know, true radicals, was fairly conservative and fairly

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right wing in absolute terms, like the American right was

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exemplified by guys like Charles Lindbergh, like Father Coughlin, like

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Robert Taft. It was. It was they believed in Hamiltonian protectionism,

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like high protectionism, national economics. They were basically white nationalists,

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you know, not in some like hardest fuck way, but

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you know they they believed that immigration had to be

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restricted according to the national origins prince people. You know.

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like the Republicans that became like the America First Party. Okay, now,

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Roosevelt's whole Roosevelt's whole interest in the Second World War

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and and and more more probably more relevant like the

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ideologues within his administration. Like a lot of people look

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at Roosevelt, it's just some like big liberal and oh

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but his administration was also compromised by Stalinists or something.

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the way to look at it. It was animated by

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this whole ideology of anti fascism, which, like Paul Godfred

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points out, that's an ideology in to itself. Okay, Like, now,

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make no mistake, like the US government like profited tremendously

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from World War Two. I'm talking like long term, like

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war itself is bad for business. That's like economic rationales

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for war are still that's not why wars happened. They

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don't happen so people can make money. But in absolute terms,

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I mean America became a superpower because it destroyed Europe

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in Japan. You know, it wasn't America's Roosevelt War wasn't

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like Churchill's War. It wasn't like this suicidal, like incomprehensively

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irrational mission that that that was undertaken because like Roosevelt

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was some degenerator, because he was just compromised. So I

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mean there was like a strategic logic to it if

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you can extricate any ethical judgments of you know, historical nature,

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you know, like but you know, the whole the animating

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principle of it was basically Roosevelt and his people they

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looked at the future as we can annihilate any kind

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of you know what they do it as like retrograde,

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you know, atavism, which which manifested in terms of like

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identitarian politics. You know, we can divide the world up

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between the United States and the Soviet Union and this

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kind of like peaceful concord where there's like two spheres

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of influence, but ultimately you know that there's not enemity

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between the two systems. You know, they kind of like

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evolve along in front of another. They viewed they viewed

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fascism as basically, you know, a way to try and

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preserve outmoded concepts of the human condition. I mean, it's

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more complicated than that and both more simple, I mean,

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depending on who we're talking about. But that that was

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the entire ideology that underlay it, okay, And the way

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that this was enshrined after when the dust settled and

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a nuclear assault and fifty million human beings were dead.

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to be instituted beyond simply the kind of whims of

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Moscow and Washington. So the preceding system, which was the

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most failing system, which it basically endures in sixteen forty eight,

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which was, you know, there's an equality of status between

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states where moral consensus reigns, you know, mainly mainly Europe

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plus America, the Russian Empire, later the Soviet Union and

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then Japan. You know, there's a there's certain parameters within

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which war must be waged. But it's a legitimate policy instrument.

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reality of power politics that the International War Crimes Tribunal

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declared that was all illegitimate. It said World War two

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happened because there was a conspiracy, a criminal conspiracy of

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men in Tokyo and Berlin and they were bent on

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world domination and everything they did incident to you know,

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the kind of day they function of government with Taylor

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do annihilate categorically populations they viewed as inferiors or ops,

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and to dominate the planet. So this can never happen again. So,

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you know, Moscow and Washington with the UK as kind

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of junior partner, were declaring ourselves to be the representatives

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of planetary humanity and anybody who takes on these sort

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of fascist ambitions, they're a criminal, that is illegal, and

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they're going to be targeted for destruction. Okay. That's literally

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what became international law. So you can't be right wing

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after there was you know, two superpowers plus what remains

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the United Kingdom just declared if you agree with these guys,

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what'sn't the communists just annihilated? You're a criminal and you're

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slated for destruction. I mean they literally just declared it

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illegal to the right wing and declared not only is

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it illegal, but if you take on these imperatives, you're

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an enemy of all of humanity on this planet. They

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unpersoned you. Okay. So what happened in America was it's like, okay,

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after Roosevelt died and the New Deal kind of started

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to lose its mandate, it's like, well, what are we

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like a pretty good president in the bound irrationality of

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you know, the extat strategic situation. But Truman wasn't any

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kind of new dealer, okay. And what the American right

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Kennedy's Profiles and Courage, it includes this kind of almost

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eulogy to Robert Taft, like, you know, Robert Taft was

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a brave guy because he was wrong all the time,

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that was basically saying like, it's no longer acceptable to

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like what was the right wing? I mean, we're gonna

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go ahead of ourselves. I think that's important. But any event,

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who's basically Eisenhower was like some sort of like military

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or he like wasn't really political. Okay, Then it's like, well,

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what is the American right? Oh, it must be Verry Goldwater.

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was like a terrible candidate. But the way to interpret

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like the American right like didn't know what it was,

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it's not like Nixon was even trying to like rule

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as an imperial executive by you know, by by executive

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order without regard to you know, this separation of powers

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or something. But what began happening in America was you

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had LBJ who totally defected, you know, from the dixiecret element.

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Jeffersonian type. They're basically Jeffersonian white nationalists. You know. There

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voted on a Republican tickets. That's the Party of Lincoln

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is the Party Reconstruction. But then the Dixie krabs got

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merked by Johnson going like one on forced integration. So

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of like America first, you know, white nationalism, but not

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by like edict, you know basically like restoration and reassociation

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rights and end of forced integration, you know, an end

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of the Vietnam War. And Wallace was carrying the solid South,

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you know, like in the in the polls and stuff.

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white guys who were like into Bobby Kennedy. Like even

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though Kennedy was kind of a crazy liberal, like a

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lot of like work in class like Italian and Irish

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dudes and stuff like identified with him because they thought

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he was like a real man. He like stood up

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to mob guys. He was, you know, one of them.

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mass coalition or like white dudes from like across like

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sectarian lines, across like ethnic lines, across regional lines, and

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this thing started becoming huge. So like Nixon basically at

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the behest of guys like Pamp Buchanan and like Helderman,

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he basically like takes on like that platform some qualifications.

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like northern white ethnics and like adjacent like non white

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people who like hate liberals, and Nixon like utterly sweeps

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the country, you know. And speaking of the Heritage Foundation

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and the Rock for An Institute as we did before

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we went live last month, they released Chronicles magazine like

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a great takedown of Watergate and how it's exactly like

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what they did to Trump or tried to do. Because

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when this coalition, when this uh, when this kind of

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like super coalition of you know, like white Christians like

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ossifies and like goes into revolt, like the deep state

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like utterly like loses its fucking mind, you know, and

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they don't know what to do, okay, And that's basically

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what underlies these I mean, I mean the people, the

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individual people like go Berzerk about Trump like they're they're

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just complete idiots and like NPC so like Earn in

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the game, I think like Trump's gonna take away like

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their gay porn or something. But I don't know or

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if they're a p on their corn flakes. But like

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in terms of the people at policy level, and the

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people are like orchanestrating law there against him, what's in

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their mind is oh, Trump's a fascist because look at

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the people who support him. It's doesn't really to do

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with like Trump the guy, like Trump the guy. I

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don't think it's really political. I mean I like Trump personally,

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but you know, it's not like Trump is some It's

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not Trump is some like guy like George Wallace. It's

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not like he's some like guy like me even I

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mean not that I'm so smart, but he doesn't like, you know,

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hold the kind of opinions I do. You know, he's

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not even really like a guy like Paul Goffreid. You know,

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Trump's like a he's like a normal New Yorker in

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like his seventies. Like if you're like a white dude

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from New York in your seventies, like how else would

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you think? But the coalition around him is a right

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wing coalition and like a purest sense, and that's illegal.

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It's illegal, it's unacceptable. The regime under is literally structured

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in every sense to like oppose that tendency and like

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annihilated with military means if it emerges as a strategic

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challenge and to basically like criminalize it domestically. But like,

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what do you do when seventy million people like ossify

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around a tendency. You can't just be like those seventy

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million people are all bad people, Like you can't do

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that and have any credibility or any mandate, Like people

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just like laugh at you and like the police need

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to enforce your shit and be like I'm not doing that,

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you know. I mean, so this, so this is a problem.

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But that if I understood the question, and forgive me

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for like going on a monologue like that, That's that's

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what I mean. Okay, Like philosophically, yeah, there's complexities, but

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if I get into all those will be here all night.

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But that that's what I mean when I say, like

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there is no right wing, I mean there is. It's

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people like us, but it's not like represented and it's

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not it's not Mitt Romney. It's not you know, it's

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not Fox News. It's not it's not some like random

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Republican pack that's like anti abortion and wants little taxes.

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Like I'm not even I'm not saying it was like

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bad things or anything. It's like, you know, like honest obviously,

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but that's not what we're talking about. And that's that's

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not like right wing in the sense that we need.

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And it's only you viewed that way because you live

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in like erratically like left wing political culture. So like

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anything like remotely like outside the norm or like normal

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is like considered like oh, that's like extremist, you know,

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because like you literally have this like social engineering regime

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that's promised on this like rabid anti fascist ideology that's

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both like outmoded and outdated, and it's it's whole. It's

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like raison veetro is like trying to basically like eradicate

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people's ability to live historically, you know, so as the

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like make people more malleable to this kind of a

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you know that this this kind of rule by government

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you know, kind of in every aspect of of social

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exist It's it's like ridiculous, Like nobody that's I'm the

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evil of that. Inherently, nobody thinks that way anymore. That's

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like that, that's like sixty years at a date. But yeah,

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that's that's what I got in terms of in terms

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of the question, Uh.

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Speaker 2: That's great. And it's been about an eighty year span

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since the forty five and the time you're talking about

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played out over almost eighty years at this point, and

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we can say that it's pretty much been a long

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slow or gradual Maybe gradual, I guess it's rapid in

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terms of historic timelines, but watering down of the right wing,

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deracination of the right wing, and sort of even expulsion

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of the right wing from institutional politics. So like the

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guys you're talking about, Nixon and Wallace in particular, like

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these were like, you know, mainstream politicians. One of them

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was the President of the United States, And these guys

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represented a whole swaths of the population who were on

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board with their politics. But now there's really nobody in

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office that I really think for my entire lifetime, definitely

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my adult lifetime, since I've been paying attention to politics

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for about twenty five years, who can hold a candle

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to those guys? But popular movements, organizations, coalitions, things like that.

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Those two have been greatly watered down. But even if

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their individual politics are maybe the same, which I don't

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think they are, but even if you could say that

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they are, they have definitely been declaued. And Trump brought

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this resurgence. I would like to talk to you about

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the resurgence that happened twenty fourteen, fifteen sixteen with the

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Trump the first Trump election, but I don't want to

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start there. I want to back up to the time

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period that you were talking about, because you were talking

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about politicians and institutions and their support with the populace,

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but at the same time, like we're just individuals here

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and we have some emblance of a movement. I guess

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if you want to say that, we have some groups,

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some coalitions, and we come out of this tradition that

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I feel there's been a huge break from. There's been

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a huge break from the right wing in well the

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fifties of America, but also there's been a big break

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from like some of the German thinkers and the Italian

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thinkers who are all starting to come back now, they're

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all starting, you know, you hear these names thrown around

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Carl Schmidt, Spangler, Ivola. But I really want to focus

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on Americans, just because we have limited time here, and

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I'm thinking in particular like the John Birch Society, George

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Lincoln Rockwell, and the American Nazi Party, and of course

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your guy Francis Parker YACKI, who I don't know of

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him being associated with any group or coalition or organization.

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I know, I've read the Birchers talking very favorably about him,

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but I've heard others, Rockwell and others really kind of

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rejected him over the you know, core of his life

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and the decisions he was making politically. So I'd like

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to if you, if you can, if you'd like to

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maybe sort of give the same rundown of those you know,

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popular movements, intellectual movements, coalitions, how they existed. Then I

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don't know if you were including those in your in

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your characterization of there can't be a right wing anymore.

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But obviously the right wing now is demonized the John

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Bircher's They deserve their own episode and how they got

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taken down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Birchers were fucking idiots, but

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I mean, like I those three elements you're talking about

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like the A n P. The Birchers and Yackey. They

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were all on like a totally riant tip.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah from each other, you mean yeah, yeah, right, No,

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I agree.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're yeah, I want to saying you're suggesting otherwise.

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That's important, that's important to characterize.

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Speaker 2: But I'm comparing their politics to our politics.

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Speaker 3: Now, Oh no, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the uh, the Berkshire is basically I mean it

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became as the Cold War set in, like in earnest

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and I mean like especially like when Korea jumped off.

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There's a good intellectional biography of McCarthy. I can't remember

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who wrote it, but it drops not long ago, you know,

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despite what people claim, you know, like I said, a

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moment ago, I don't think this is paramount understanding the

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trajectory of the aeological trajectory of the regime PUS ninety

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thirty three. But they were over This is what's documented.

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There were over two hundred Soviet agents that infiltrated the

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Rose of administration. It's it's ridiculous, Okay. So McCarthy he

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started identifying these people. He's like, okay, we're in a

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state of war and all but name with the Soviet

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Union and you're saying it's okay to be on record

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as a communist. I mean it'd be like, I mean

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during World War Two, like if you were like a

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card carrying member of the Boon or the Silver Shirt,

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so you're like a Red Trade agent or the Third Reich.

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But they just be like, oh, that's okay, Like you're

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you're tipping at windmills if you say this is bad.

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So it's like there's like this kind of ridiculous fantasy

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suggested that like as if like the Soviet Union was

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an imagineary or like it didn't or like like the

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cooler wasn't actually happening, and McCarthy was some crazy man

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like picking on eccentric people or something. And then what

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brought McCarthy down is Roy Cone, and uh, Roy Cone

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either his boyfriend or some guy who he wanted to

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get close to, this guy, David Shine, like Cone started

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trying to pull so I started trying to flex on

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the US Army to get Shine out of the military draft.

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So the Army is basically like why you're so interested

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in this guy? And then they started digging into Cone,

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like Cone is very very gay Okay. So it's like, okay, McCarthy,

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like your guy here, your counselor record, like he's trying

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to flex on the army to get his like boy toy.

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He's like out of their obligations. That's what brought down

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McCarthy was And he was indecent and picking on patriotic

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Americans because the marsionary coon is is because Roy Cohen

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basically couldn't control his his baser desires. But Yaki Yaqui

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wasn't Yaki. Look, Yaqui's little point, first last and always was. Okay,

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after nine thirty three, America is the mortal enemy of Europe. Okay.

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You can't like transform your mortal enemy into some benign element.

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So Yaqui's like, how do we liberate Europe? We liberate

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Europe by some kind of concourd with Moscow. Okay. So

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that's what he pursued. I believe he was on record

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with check Intelligence and probably the Shazi. He absolutely was

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running around the East Block and nobody can explain why.

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When he was incarcerated in San Francisco, well As Cardo

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went to meet with him and he asked about George

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Lincoln Rockwell, Yaki said, I have no idea who that is,

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and he didn't because Rockball was some like vaudeville crank.

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You have some vaudeville crank telling n world jokes and

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dressing up as some like TV wrestling villain or something like.

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He was a jag off, you know, like I when

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I was saying too ran Taylor a few months back

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was interesting, you know, like I was at his house,

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like his wife had us for dinner. It was it

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was great. But he's like his takedown was just like, look,

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he's like Rockball thought he was John Wayne, okay, and

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Taylor knew the guy. He's like you thought he was

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John Wayne. He's like the man was physically tough, even

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like in his into his fifties or like late forties

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or whatever. You know. He he definitely was not a coward.

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I he definitely was like like believed in like white nationalism,

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like calling yourself a quote Nazi and holding up signs saying,

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you know, I support Uncle Adolph's gas cure, Like you're

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fucking idiots, Like yeah, I mean we make jokes and

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stuff too, and I'm not. I mean, I live in

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a fucking Chicago man, Like it's not like I recoil

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it bad language, but that's just like moron, you know,

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and and he knew it was. That was the whole point.

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The whole point was like the fucking moron and like

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and it make people mad. You know. Yaki was a

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real national socialist and like Yaki otto reamer, these guys

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who were like these guys went fought for the Reich.

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They basically agreed with Yaki, you know. And Yaki's notion

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was like, look, you know, like Stalinism is a tyranny.

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Our people are suffering under it. Half of Europe is

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imprisoned by it. But the Shalinists aren't like socially engineering

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Europe out of existence, and America is you know. So

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it's like would you rather like have a policeman like

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having his foot on your back or would you rather

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be being like racially annihilated and beyond the practical Yaku's

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oh point was like, look like if the Russians when

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the Cold War, he like, first of all, they need us,

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They need Europe like intact for its technics, for its

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mentioned material, for all of that, you know. And he's

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like again too, he's like, eventually, you know, even if

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00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,839
Soviet dominations perennial, like if anything, they're gonna become like us,

470
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,119
not like us, like them. You know a lot of

471
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,799
like the Russians, like Putin was an outlier because he

472
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,480
was KGB. I think KGB and J are you guys?

473
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,680
These Russian guys and Occupy East Germany most of them

474
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,839
didn't even stak German and they didn't want to like this.

475
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,319
It's like there was like this kind of there's like

476
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,599
this quarantine between like the occupier and like you weren't

477
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:42,240
supposed to fraternize with them, you weren't supposed to take

478
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:46,200
on their habits. It was almost like deliberate that the Soviets. Yeah,

479
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,079
they they'd crush your clergy, they'd arrest you having a typewriter,

480
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720
but they're not gonna say, like you're not German anymore,

481
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,400
you're just a citizen of this planet. We're gonna import

482
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,319
African immigrants to tell your daughter to marry one. That

483
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,960
was like not even on their program like that. They

484
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,440
would have thought that was insane, you know, Like that's

485
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,839
the difference. So in Yaki was looking ahead like a

486
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400
couple hundred years, you know, and frankly he was right,

487
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,920
like where where where are Europeans like not mind fucked

488
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:23,680
Eastern Germany, you know, Slovakia, you know, places like that.

489
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,119
You know, like the Russian Federation has terrible problems, but

490
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,000
they're they're they're not they're not they're not promoting to

491
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,119
children that they should be transsexual. They're not like declaring

492
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,519
that Russia is too white and you know, needs to

493
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:40,079
atone for this. And it's like not even remotely within

494
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,400
their contemplation, you know, Like, so what these fools claim

495
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,039
about Yaga is he was a third world is Like

496
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,400
it's like, no, he's not. You're a fucking idiot. That's

497
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,119
not what he's saying. He's not saying like Russia is good.

498
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200
He's not saying the Soviets are good. He's saying that

499
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Europe is under occupation. Like do you want to be

500
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,000
eradicated from history or would you rather just have the

501
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,000
Russians like cracking the whip on you? And yeah, that's

502
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:09,400
not a good prospect either way. But there's a way

503
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,640
out of the one where you survive and arguably thrive

504
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,599
admittedly a century subsequent, and there's one where you cease

505
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,839
to exist. Okay, you can never make the choice to

506
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,240
cease to exist unless you want to commit racial suicide.

507
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,839
That was Yacki's point to conclude my take on the Birchers.

508
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,559
I know we're going backwards, is what Tommy Mesker said.

509
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:35,160
They were like the politically correct, like extreme right. They're

510
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,319
guys who up until nineteen eighty nine claimed everything that

511
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,160
happened to some plot from Moscow. That's fucking retarded. You know,

512
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:47,079
the Jays don't exist, the social engineering regime doesn't exist.

513
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,039
You know, the New Deal regime wasn't what I said

514
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:52,839
it is. It's communists. Are these bad guy ops who

515
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,599
are like hiding under our bed and fucking up up that.

516
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,319
That's that's it. That's that the sandwich of you fucking

517
00:30:58,319 --> 00:30:59,440
take the guy.

518
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: I read revel O oliver and he's He's how I

519
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480
came to Yacki. It was through him, because he praises

520
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,279
him a lot. He wrote in the Enemy of Europe

521
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,000
there's an addition that has I think it's called the

522
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,839
Enemy of My Enemy by Olivier and uh he's he

523
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,160
tells the story of the Manuscript of the Enemy of

524
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,599
Europe and he praises Jacky. But uh yeah, and I

525
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,359
have some other book by Bircher's but we'll talk. Maybe

526
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,680
we could talk about that another time. But yeah, I

527
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400
don't know. Oliver's Oliver's pretty base man. I'm assuming you've

528
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,799
read him.

529
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was. He was William Pearce's Day One

530
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:43,880
kind of inspiration him and William Gelly Simpson. It was

531
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,799
worth reading too. I'm not saying a huge accolae.

532
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,279
Speaker 4: Oliver.

533
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,319
Speaker 1: Oliver was a weird guy. I mean, I think I've

534
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:52,480
got I like a lot of what he wrote. He

535
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:54,400
was one of these academics who thought he had to

536
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,759
prove he like actually had gujone, So he'd like he'd

537
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,640
invoke a lot of stupid like racial language for no reason, Like, look, man,

538
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:02,799
what you call I'm not afraid of people dropping the

539
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,359
N word, But you're some like fucking university professor like

540
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,400
trying to like talk hard by dropping that kind of shit.

541
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,839
It's fucking cringe. So I could do it out that stuff.

542
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,400
He had dumb ideas in the Kennedy administration. But he

543
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,079
he was a real philologist and that was rare in

544
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,000
America even like sixty seventy years ago, and I respect it,

545
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,680
and he had insights. Yeah, I Oliver's worth reading, man,

546
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,720
with some reservations.

547
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,839
Speaker 2: Well, and the reason I drop his name is because

548
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:27,079
he's how I found yacky.

549
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, reading I've never seen.

550
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,799
Speaker 4: He's got very Adam green asque ideas of Christianity, and

551
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,480
you know we need to somehow, you know, find a

552
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:38,480
new faith structure.

553
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Adam Adam Green is like he's like

554
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,039
some He's like some Walmart motherfucker who I thinks he

555
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:50,200
knows things. That's hilarious. He's like a j J. What

556
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:53,960
we call it the Jay Dyer. Well, no, he explained

557
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,119
to me that he's more popular on the internet than

558
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,279
I am. So I mean, I guess he's I guess

559
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,400
he's a He's got the sensibilities of a thirteen year

560
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,720
old girl. It's like when he's not dropping, it's like

561
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,200
Walmart take on great religions of the world. He's telling

562
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
me that, you know, he's he's the he's the prettiest

563
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,319
girl at his junior high school or something. But I

564
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,799
don't want to talk about that, motherfuckers. He's like a

565
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:18,079
bass who never goes away person.

566
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,039
Speaker 4: Why the reason why I brought in I brought into that.

567
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,920
The reason why I brought it up is because you know,

568
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,000
since we have limited time with you, one thing I

569
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,680
think it would be most useful to discuss is kind

570
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400
of a lay of the landscape, the topology of the

571
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,559
right currently. Like let's just take you know, normal common

572
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,359
conservatism whatever and just park that shit over here. It's

573
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,200
not going to be around much longer. It's no point

574
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,880
talking about it, right. So what we have now the

575
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,839
various factions that operate in it, right, the priorities of

576
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,359
those factions, whether expressed or private, all right, and the

577
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,680
messages that these factions go about trying to propagate. You know,

578
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,839
which ones are useful? Which of these factions are viable?

579
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,039
Are none of them viable? Are any of them good

580
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:10,480
enough to you know?

581
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Do they do?

582
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: Any of them possess a mentioned material capable of political

583
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,679
organization and self actualization? And basically, what do we work with?

584
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,880
What do we discard? Who do we work with? Who

585
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,280
do we discard once we found that out? What do

586
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,199
we work towards? And how do we know when we're

587
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:29,760
getting there?

588
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

589
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,119
Speaker 2: I mean, what do we folster, who do we give?

590
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,039
Speaker 1: You know, it's not most of these guys are just

591
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,440
like Internet guys, like they don't really exist. They're like

592
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,119
these guys like in instead of like watching porn or

593
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,840
being in the NFL or like sports gambling, just like

594
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,280
say shit on the internet. They pretend like I'm like

595
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,719
I'm like an oldness and growny you know, like Iron Guard,

596
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,280
like Ukrainian fascist and I want to kill Christianity. You know,

597
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,320
it's like it's fake, you know, I mean one of

598
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,199
the reasons why. And again I'm not saying like I'm

599
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,480
so great, but this shit is like what I do

600
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,679
twenty four to seven. It's like my real life. So

601
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,320
it's like I'm going to talk to hood dudes, We're

602
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,079
going to like an event, We're going to talk to

603
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,880
like random like fucking other people. I like say, here

604
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,639
is where I'm going, and these are the people I'm

605
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,360
talking to, And this is like the shit I'm up on.

606
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,760
We're not, yeah, I mean like we are a movement.

607
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:23,079
But the point I always making is like we pick you, you

608
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,679
don't choose us. I don't mean you guys on deck,

609
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,599
I mean generally. So like when I get like messages

610
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,880
from motherfuckers like mostly ops, even guys who are like

611
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,239
think their presumption is like you need to do this,

612
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,000
you need to do that. It's like, bro, you're nothing

613
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,400
to me. You're nobody, you know, like there is no us.

614
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:43,079
You know again, we choose you, you don't choose us.

615
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:48,360
And this isn't some like internet club or something. What

616
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,519
my view is what I said on Burdens Show a

617
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,840
couple of weeks back. What we're doing, what my peoples

618
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960
are doing, what we've always been doing. We are succeeding

619
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,679
from the regime, and now there's the infrastructure to do that.

620
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
We have our own communities, we have our own capital bases,

621
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,639
we own our own businesses. You know, we we have

622
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,760
we have we have cooperatives where we educate our kids.

623
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,400
We don't want anything to do with regime. Shit, we

624
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,039
don't want to become the government. The state is dying.

625
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,039
It's dead. It doesn't know it yet. It's a zombie

626
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,199
that is going to shamble on for another one hundred

627
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,360
and fifty twenty years, but it's dead. We want nothing

628
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,840
to do with it. Okay. What we're doing is we

629
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,920
are living historically and we are bringing worthy people and

630
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,119
we're a bandguard. We do not want numbers, we do

631
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:41,119
not want normies. We are a vanguard of people living

632
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,079
historically and we are looking to the world after we

633
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,679
are all gone. Okay, because that is when this is

634
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,199
going to be fully realized. It has nothing to do

635
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,360
with government, has no new applical parties. There has nothing

636
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,119
to do with you know, capturing the city council of

637
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:58,239
of you know, Podunk Iowa. None of that. We don't

638
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719
we don't want to fuck with that. It's not to say,

639
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,280
like one of the young bloods who's in like Homeland

640
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,760
Fiction and I took him to lunch today, he's probably

641
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,679
gonna land a job in the Trump administration. And that's great, Okay.

642
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,320
I want young games to do that kind of thing,

643
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,639
and moving forward, it'll like teach them things about you know,

644
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,480
like the reality of politics and like sharpen their chops

645
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,679
for just like real life. But our goal is not

646
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,519
we want to become the government and like stop immigration.

647
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,440
Like that's we're way, way, way, way way past that.

648
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,840
That's the twentieth century fight, okay. And you're no, there's

649
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,559
not gonna be. There's not gonna be some like system

650
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:39,960
reinstated globally where like the Westphalian state comes back and

651
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719
you can just like deport all the Mexicans and you'll

652
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,639
create this like white person state that's where everybody's some

653
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,280
like middle of the road normany con that's not gonna happen,

654
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,199
that's never gonna happen, like what you can do, though,

655
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:56,519
the future looks like this, like local is I mean,

656
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,440
this sounds corny and I don't want to sound like

657
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440
something like Thomas Friedman, like F A G, G O

658
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:05,119
T or something. But the future is this, Okay, it's

659
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:08,519
basically like sovereignty exists locally because like the government can't

660
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,559
interfere it anymore. So it's like, okay, this hood over

661
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,119
here is like nine nine pro amcent black, like hearing

662
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,159
me and my peoples live, It's it's basically in the reverse,

663
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,239
but like white, like over here there's some like mixed

664
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,199
race community because that's the way people want to live.

665
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,559
You know, people police themselves, law enforcement basically private. That's

666
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:28,920
where it's trying to happen. If you haven't noticed, like

667
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,599
policing is totally changing, like people's people's purview is gonna

668
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:39,639
become way way way smaller. Economically, though, like there's gonna

669
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:43,320
be a real homogenization of of currencies and things. I mean,

670
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,320
that's already happening, So you're gonna have like economic globalism.

671
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,559
There's gonna be like an availability a capital that's looking

672
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,119
for a place to go, the way people can do business.

673
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,840
It's gonna be remarkably homogenous. But this idea of this

674
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440
is the government, and it's it's it's it's it's the authority.

675
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,559
It's it's the premive of the He stopped here, and

676
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,800
you're part of the democratic state. These are your rights,

677
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:08,559
these are your obligations. That's dead. That's dead. Anybody who

678
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,440
thinks it's not isn't in the game. Just like these

679
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,480
guys who talk about like the West, like we got

680
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:15,280
at the front of the West. It's like there is

681
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,320
no West. The West died at Stalingrad. You know, you

682
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440
if you think in those terms, you're like not, you're

683
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,239
not in the real world. You're only an internet guy,

684
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,039
or you're some dude who like it's kind of like

685
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,440
isolated from the reality of stuff because he lives, you know,

686
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,119
in some in some town that's not really impacted to

687
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:37,920
the full extent like globalism like Chicago is, and he's

688
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,559
trying to like piece together he's reading he's reading stuff

689
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:42,880
that's like seventy years out of date or that was

690
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,079
written you know, like in nineteen ninety one and thinking

691
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:48,960
that represents reality when it doesn't. I realized I was

692
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,960
long winded. But yeah, that's I mean, that's my takedown.

693
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:54,159
I don't I don't fuck I don't fuck with like

694
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,519
wig nance. I don't fuck with like random motherfuckers. I

695
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,480
don't fuck with guys who like declare their part of

696
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,280
some like a engineering like political movement. I mean, what

697
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,239
we do is what we do, and we get stronger

698
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,679
every day.

699
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, I want to give a stormy

700
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,679
or pet a chance to ask a question or comment

701
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,400
before I take it further.

702
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: Anything I've anything I've gotta say is going to be like,

703
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:22,280
it's really long. I agree with almost all of those things,

704
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:29,119
some differences regarding global capital things like that, but none

705
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,440
of that is going to be interesting to any of

706
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:32,280
your listeners.

707
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: Let's just be.

708
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: Real, Thomas. When you when you talk about localism, is

709
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,679
that just going to be the facto? Is that just

710
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,440
going to be people right now? If you start talking

711
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,639
about that, it's almost like a plan. It's like, hey,

712
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,880
let's all go there's this really cold town in Virginia

713
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,679
and everything where our people are already there. You know, we

714
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,480
got to go there? Or is it it's gonna be

715
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:05,760
people are It's gonna become instinctual where it's just like, okay,

716
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,239
we gotta I'm gonna go find my own people. Now

717
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,840
it's like I'm not even this isn't even a plan.

718
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,599
I'm just packing up and getting the fuck out.

719
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: It's both. I mean, look, man, like I didn't think

720
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,039
this would I didn't think we'd reach this state. I

721
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,079
mean historically speaking, I don't just mean like in my

722
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,039
own life, your own life. I didn't think we'd reach

723
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,039
the state until I was already dead. Okay, but like

724
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:29,079
four yeah, four years ago. I did did my first

725
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,320
social media account until four years ago, and like basically

726
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,519
the minute I set it up, like in two days,

727
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,920
I have like six thousand followers, and I'm like, what

728
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,639
the fuck is happening here? You know? And now, I mean,

729
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,880
I'm not clout chasing. I'm telling you, like the reality.

730
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,920
I literally know like five hundred people, like I know

731
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,679
obviously some of them want better than others. But this

732
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,079
all just like happened organically and like rapidly and spontaneously,

733
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,000
and like the place I'm gonna start spending my winters

734
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,559
at that, Like Burden and other guys turned me on

735
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,519
who It just happened, like a bunch of dudes and

736
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:12,840
their wives like moved there because it's a nice place

737
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:16,639
and it's deep, big on Confederate heritage, Like nobody planned it.

738
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,559
Just one day there was like one hundred and fifty

739
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,800
of us there. You know, this is happening all over

740
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,079
the country. It's probably happening over the world, but I'm

741
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:28,039
not a globe trotter, so I can't say. So it's

742
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,519
like I'm not saying you guys are saying this, but

743
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,199
it's like when guys talking me, like how do you

744
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,519
see this shaking out? And I'm suspicious. It's like, bro,

745
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,639
it's happening. You're not part of it. But it's happening everywhere,

746
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,360
you know, Like it's not academic. It's happening, and it's

747
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,559
it's a combination, you know, like most of the guys

748
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,000
I meet her up on this or like my buddy

749
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,920
in the Southwest, who I used to lay a lot

750
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,840
of content, which has been busy with like you know

751
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,280
the business of raising kids and having his own business

752
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,320
and stuff. But he moved to his town in Arizona

753
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,639
and like the same thing happened like one day this

754
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,760
like New like young dude and his wife were like

755
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,159
girlfriend moving and they got a little kid, and he's

756
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,159
like some like huge trunk guy. Some my buddy starts

757
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,159
hanging out with him, and then they start getting into

758
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:13,760
like historical revisionist conversations, and then like all this guy's

759
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,360
friends like move there. Then like random old people were

760
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,599
like super right wing move there. And then just like

761
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,440
you know, like it just happened, you know, and I

762
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,960
hear these stories like over and over and over again,

763
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,760
and just even you know, I mean like now you're considered.

764
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:34,440
Now you're considered like a nerd or something if you're

765
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,159
not at least like marginally like right wing, or if

766
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,599
you're like a white person who like acts like some

767
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,280
pussy about stuff like like nobody likes that. Everybody thinks

768
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,360
that's uncool and fucked up. And in contrast, in like

769
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,800
the nineteen nineties, like everybody fucking hated us, like you

770
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,760
were viewed as basically like a scumbag, like if you

771
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,400
were like right wing, you know, yeah, you know something

772
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,679
that's like the degree to which that's why like these

773
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,400
black pill guys, it's like hilarious. It's like you've either

774
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,199
got no perspective either you've got a perspective you don't

775
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,719
leave your house, or you're like nineteen years old and

776
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,559
have no idea like what the world used to be

777
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:19,119
like you know, like basically yeah, I mean like and

778
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,599
I'm telling people too, you know, like summer twenty twenty three,

779
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:25,800
like I forgot slotted, Like some friends of mine took

780
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,760
me to New York City, which is awesome because like,

781
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,559
I've been locked in jail before for the night, but

782
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,559
this was particularly traumatic way it happened. I do think

783
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,320
bad ha been in jail. I mean it was fine,

784
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,559
but you know, this place, sovereign house out in Brooklyn.

785
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:44,119
The only like subcultural action that's at all cool is

786
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,079
right wing. But we wants to be like Kamala Harris.

787
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:48,519
Nobody wants to fuck with Joe Biden. Nobody it's cool

788
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:51,880
to be like Tim Walls. You know, these like right

789
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,199
wing spaces in places like Brooklyn, in places like Hyde

790
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:58,639
Park here, in places like fucking Los Angeles, it's like

791
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,519
right wing guys and girls doing their thing, and like

792
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:03,960
a bunch of artsy people and theater people and like

793
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
fucking cloud chasers want to be around it. I'm not

794
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,159
saying that's cool. That's kind of retarded. But that's the

795
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,880
metric of the culture. So anybody who thinks like like

796
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,519
we are like anything subcultural that's happening or dynamic, like

797
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:21,360
we are leading it. You know, So anybody Rogers theorem.

798
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,039
Have you ever heard of Roger's theorem?

799
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 4: No, it's a it's a really interesting bit of math. Basically,

800
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:33,119
technology entrepreneurs use it to track, to predict and model

801
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,280
the adoption cycle of like, let's say, a new way

802
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,400
of doing things. Right, it could be like how to

803
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,280
interface the platform. You know, apps were completely different than

804
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,000
anybody else's Internet experience. So if you're going to plan

805
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,400
out your runway, all right, figure out like, all right,

806
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:53,079
this is how much I burn every month, This is

807
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,320
about how fast my users are growing. How much more

808
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,480
room do I need before the curve starts getting parabolic?

809
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:00,679
Speaker 1: Right?

810
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:04,639
Speaker 4: And the number the magic number. It turns out this

811
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:10,440
Rogers theorem, which is just for technology, works just as

812
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,800
well tracking the propagation of ideas across society.

813
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand.

814
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: Would you say that there's fourteen percent maybe roughly of

815
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,719
people that know what you and I know?

816
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:26,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably right.

817
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:33,119
Speaker 4: So that means so Rogers theem basically says it may

818
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:36,559
take five years, it may take six months, but once

819
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:41,159
you pass thirteen fourteen percent, there's a point of no return. Right,

820
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,920
that idea, that knowledge, right will be in every member

821
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,280
of society, right at some level of penetration, depending on

822
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,519
what they interface with and what parts of that information

823
00:46:54,599 --> 00:47:00,239
is relevant to their individual experiences. No, I understand is

824
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,559
like the most powerful people in the world, like in

825
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,559
the country. Let's say, all right, we know that they're

826
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:10,800
listening to our guys, they're not reading our stuff. We've

827
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,079
I mean, yeah, I mean check this out. Our ideas

828
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:15,920
are going to be everyone's ideas. That is what I'm

829
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,199
saying this out. And I mean I I got receipts

830
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,599
for this. I got fucking witnesses. Like a year and

831
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,159
a half ago. I got on a plane the fucking

832
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,039
Arkansas and the co pilot when he's walking to take

833
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,760
a piss, he says, hey, you're Thomas, and I'm like,

834
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,960
what the fuck? And he's like, hey, man, I really

835
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,320
love your podcast. And my wife thinks a really funny

836
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,920
like let me take a selfie with you to send

837
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,840
to her, And then like at the Union Park like.

838
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: D n C. Shit, I'm there with Arthur and Bow

839
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,920
and like we're just talking and this cop walks over,

840
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,639
like I'm not gonna drop what agency's throng. Last time

841
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:51,679
I want is for people have problems, But like I

842
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:53,519
see walking our wrong as my gos shit, he's probably

843
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,000
get the fuck out of here. He's like Thomas, like

844
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,800
you're awesome man. You know what I'm like talking about

845
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,639
like guns and like all kinds off and he's like

846
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,039
zagari fellows, you know. He's like, uh you'll be good man,

847
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:06,199
stay up. And he's like yeah, you got you got friends,

848
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,280
like you know, in the police department. And I'm like

849
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,360
this is fucking insane man, you know, Like I yeah,

850
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,519
and like uh so that that basically kind of hits

851
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:18,679
me to like how the degree to which like what

852
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,440
you're saying and like Roger's theorem is right, I don't

853
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,840
really understand. I mean I understand statistics on some level,

854
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,199
and I've read stuff I you know, like I'm always

855
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:31,679
saying like I wish there was more serious sociology still

856
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,960
being dropped, like academic sociology, but the stuff that does

857
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,760
kind of still over with neuroscience and things I've read

858
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,360
stuff about like how the nature of information and information

859
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,039
it's almost like self perpetuating, yes, you know, like yeah,

860
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:48,239
and I don't fully I don't fully understand that ship

861
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,719
because it's not really my wheelhouse.

862
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: But when you said, remember when I told you in

863
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,800
the beginning before we started recording that the conversation that

864
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,079
you and Peter had about about the last hundred years

865
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:06,000
being an index or a dialogue with Marxist Leninism, and

866
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:09,920
how that was paradigm shifting for me. So I came

867
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:13,760
to faith. You know, I left the church, as every

868
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,440
you know, young guy does, and then everybody you know

869
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:20,440
has their atheist phase, and I got, you know, really

870
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:23,400
I'm gonna I hated learning in school. I didn't like it.

871
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,719
Only much later on, like in my in my mid twenties,

872
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,760
that I realized that I like it now. I don't

873
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,039
haven't had a TV in about a decade, and learning

874
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:32,639
shit is what I do for fun because I'm a

875
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:37,039
weird guy, I guess. But I started pouring myself into science.

876
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
How to learned all the science, like I thought myself,

877
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,559
you know, calculus, because I wanted to understand like what

878
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,280
the fuckind Sigin is saying, like in his words, instead

879
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,840
of just reading the books, like on the surface level.

880
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,840
And then I had a bit of disposable income after

881
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,079
I sold my first company, and I started like being

882
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,760
you know, like a guy in his twenties with too

883
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,320
much fucking money, like I want to buy let me,

884
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,880
I want to see, Like can I buy a piece

885
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,039
of Einstein's notebook? I want to I want to buy

886
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:09,039
that that thing. And Google Translate like first came out

887
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:11,360
where you could like hold your phone over the man

888
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,239
you like the writing, and it would just read you

889
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,159
the text.

890
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: And like I'm so like.

891
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 4: I'm reading Einstein's letter to another physicist and this motherfucker

892
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,639
is talking about God, right, He's like I see God

893
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,440
from the tiniest bit from the from the tiniest of

894
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,440
the tiniest to the largest of the largest. I see

895
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,599
his handwriting everywhere. It's like it's like he signed every

896
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400
every single thing. And I was like, wait a second,

897
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:43,679
like that, this this isn't what I was told that

898
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,480
this man believed. This was like these guys are talking

899
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,519
about something else. And from then on out, I just

900
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,599
I mean consciousness science became like a hobby, then a passion,

901
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,639
then something like I started funding and then like so

902
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,159
when you said in that episode, you said, basically a

903
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,639
RaSE is a chain of being that stretches back from

904
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,920
the beginning of time to the present and represents a

905
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,039
form of epigenetic memory, right, and that that epigenetic memory

906
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:20,960
could be roughly called the consciousness. Yep, you may have

907
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,239
just been spitballing, but there's a hell of a lot

908
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,360
of science to back up that that is not spitballing

909
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:26,719
at all.

910
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, that's why I dropped it. That's a

911
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,199
subtext of my science fiction. Oh really, Yeah, so I

912
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,199
do something about that. I mean because that, I mean,

913
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:40,800
that's all higher okay, like if you don't know. And

914
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,960
then also that redeems do some people always saying like

915
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,760
condinal philosophy is this like speculative stuff or it's okay, well,

916
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,719
I mean what we're what we're talking about here, I

917
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,920
mean that that basically it defines it different terms, but

918
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,800
that you're based that that basically like this demonstrative like

919
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,360
Hagel being right, okay, get scale. Yeah, yeah, you know,

920
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,760
there's like there's like this enduring memory that's heritable, yes,

921
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,679
you know, and yeah, that that basically informs you know,

922
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,199
like human behavior at scale, like what would consider to

923
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,400
be a potal behavior.

924
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,599
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, and like they've they've they've done

925
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:19,320
this in animal studies as well. So like you could

926
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,519
have groups of monkeys that are genetically identical, right, that

927
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,920
were separated on an island there's you know, part of

928
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,679
a large island.

929
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: Then the water's raised a.

930
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: Little bit, split the monkeys up, same exact, you know,

931
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:33,400
set of monkeys, just they can't swim the distance, and

932
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,599
they've basically been like many isolated for let's say three

933
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:42,320
four hundred years. All right, monkey on island a learns

934
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,000
how to use a new tool, all right, Other monkeys

935
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,719
watching learn, But then other monkeys on the complete opposite

936
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,599
side of that island, all of a sudden, all at once,

937
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,280
learn all at once, and as well as well the

938
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,920
monkeys on them, the monkeys that are separated on the

939
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,119
other island. So the monkeys on the other island learn

940
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:09,679
it too instantly.

941
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,199
Speaker 3: One hundred monkeys syndrome.

942
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go, the monkey syndrome.

943
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: And then there their offspring know how to do it without.

944
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:24,119
Speaker 4: Yes, so you devet itping. There's a there is a

945
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,239
consciousness that we are both a part of and we

946
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,239
exist in, right, So it's kind of hard for people

947
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,960
to undert kind of conceptualize.

948
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: But if I analogize, it's to the.

949
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,079
Speaker 4: Radio, right, and the Pentagon is up on this ship,

950
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,800
right we And I know that sounds crazy, But nineteen

951
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,079
fifty seven, the Pentagon commissioned Stanford Research Institute, which at

952
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:48,719
the time was the most prestigious research institute in the country,

953
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,400
therefore the most prestigious research institute in the world. Time

954
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,960
saying hey, we're hearing that the Soviets are doing research

955
00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:59,719
and like things that the mind can do, right, we

956
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,719
want you guys to figure out basically what's going on.

957
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,639
They commissioned a broad study. It took It took SRI

958
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:06,599
at three or four years.

959
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,079
Speaker 1: Right.

960
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: The report is called the Report on the Gateway Process.

961
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:13,840
Just typing Gateway Report. The very first thing will be

962
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,760
the Foyer reading room to twenty six page document which

963
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,599
would later spawn the most successful intelligent military and civilian

964
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:27,199
intelligence program in US history. But what does what these

965
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:33,119
guys basically prove out through eight or nine different experimental

966
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,960
like experimental modality so not like theoretically this is like

967
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,159
in the lab, right that you bring kind of tunes

968
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:42,960
into conscious I know, this is not where we wanted

969
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,199
to go. But basically, like I guess when you could

970
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,880
say it is like right, racial consciousness is part of

971
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:54,679
you know, is why it is. You know, our history

972
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,760
and our our genes are wide right, and it kind

973
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,400
of gets blurry out on the side. And that's when

974
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,840
I'm tuned into one O one one and you're tuned

975
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,960
into Hot one O one seven. All right, we're both

976
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,960
listening to the same radio wave. We're only a fraction

977
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:14,119
of a fraction of a decimal place away on the spectrum.

978
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,880
I got a different DJ than you got. I'm listening

979
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:21,280
to different tracks, different genres. We have an entirely different experience.

980
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,440
But yet we're all having a tiny little slipper of

981
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,679
a much larger experience. So when people all of a

982
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,760
sudden know things and intuitively know them in their gut,

983
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,159
all of a sudden, and they know the thing almost,

984
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:37,840
they may not be able to express in words the

985
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,880
totality of the idea that's just been given, the knowledge

986
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,559
that's been given them. It's just but the same way

987
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:48,320
that women's intuition works. Right, A woman will get information.

988
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,480
She'll walk into a room and let's say, like there's

989
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:53,519
some scary guy down the hall that wants to hurt her.

990
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:56,079
She doesn't know the fucking guy exists. She doesn't, she

991
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,559
has no way of knowing that exists. But she will

992
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:02,159
immediately instantly know as soon as she walks the door

993
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:04,199
and you say what's wrong. If she won't be able

994
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:05,559
to tell you, she'd be like, I can't put it

995
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:11,000
into words whatever, I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

996
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:13,159
I think that's kind of what's happening, because it all

997
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:16,280
of a sudden, white people know everywhere all at once.

998
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,840
Sorry to like take us off on a tangent, but no, no,

999
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,559
you were telling me that I didn't know.

1000
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,639
Speaker 1: It, because that's that's what underlies that. That's that, that's

1001
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:31,320
what identitarian things are, Okay, I mean and so and

1002
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,280
and that's why trying to eradicate to them, you're basically

1003
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,440
trying to rip out of people like what makes them human.

1004
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,000
I got to raise up momentarily. I'm sorry to be abrupt,

1005
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:42,360
but this was uh, this was great, man. We should

1006
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,679
do this again when I got more time. I don't

1007
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,440
have to travel again for a minute, so I can basically,

1008
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,400
within reason, make my own schedule. But so, yeah, I

1009
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,119
I'd love to reconvene at some point, so yeah, just

1010
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:58,719
hit me off man, like, I mean, any of you guys.

1011
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,599
If you fellows don't my number like Pithas obviously you

1012
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:03,800
can get it from him. But I really appreciate you

1013
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,199
hosting me.

1014
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:04,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1015
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: Well look man, there's a lot to talk about and

1016
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,079
there's no rush, so we look forward to what we're

1017
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:13,159
going to be having more conversations. So yeah, if you

1018
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:14,559
came back, that'd be awesome.

1019
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,599
Speaker 1: No, anytime. Yeah, and like, forgive me again, premire me.

1020
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,000
Forgive me for like rushing through stuff or like talking

1021
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,360
over people. I wanted to get a lot of stuff

1022
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,800
up before I got to go, so I didn't mean

1023
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,360
to be rude. Man, No, that's I appreciate you guys.

1024
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: We needed the foundation laid and you did it, so

1025
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:29,360
appreciate that.

1026
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, hit me up. I hit me up anytime, man.

1027
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,400
But yeah, let me know this next week man, if

1028
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,920
you want to do some more stuff, and that would

1029
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,079
be great. All right.

1030
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: Oh, here you go, a real wallace for President Penn.

1031
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I got a Wallace lamy

1032
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,000
pin from from the era. I gave it to one

1033
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,280
of the young bloods. Uh if he promised to wear

1034
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,079
it on on Tuesday, and he did, he said me

1035
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:54,800
a photograph.

1036
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: So what's your real quick for you? What was your

1037
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,079
opinion of the for the First America for because there's

1038
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,920
a lot of family history of me personally with that movement,

1039
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,320
particularly Charles Lindbergh.

1040
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: No, they were great man. I mean, Lindbergh was a

1041
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:13,800
great man and they were. They were after Huey Long died.

1042
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,280
I mean, they were basically the resistance to what we

1043
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,559
view as the deep state. I mean, I think they

1044
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,239
were Long was problematic. I got a lot of guys

1045
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:24,360
in the right thing. Wan was Long with like this

1046
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,239
great hero and I'm not like throwing shade out him

1047
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:30,559
in categorical terms, but there was problems there. But No,

1048
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:34,400
I caught, when I am partial, Dudley Kelly like he

1049
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:38,360
was kind of a crazy, uh tinerant Protestant preacher. He

1050
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,599
was also like a writer, he wrote for Hollywood and

1051
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:45,119
he yeah, he he's just a fascinating dude. But he

1052
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:48,599
was a little more extreme than you know, the I

1053
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:52,199
mean the America First Woman was very mainstream, you know,

1054
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:55,960
so now they're they were fascinating, tendency and very positive

1055
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,880
and Windburg would have made a great president. I think

1056
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,559
I think so too, think so too.

1057
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,159
Speaker 4: Is there anything that that is politically relevant today?

1058
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, it's the same because it's the same fight,

1059
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,320
you know, I mean it's the same tendency. Uh, it's

1060
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,559
the same tendencies that essentially like create the battle lines.

1061
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,320
You know, conditions change. History doesn't repeat itself, Like only

1062
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,559
fucking idiots say that, But there are like enduring tendencies

1063
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:25,159
and political cultures they create like fault lines. So yeah,

1064
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,880
you know, like America first versus the New Dealers, you know,

1065
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,840
the silent majority, you know versus the media and law

1066
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,199
enforcement establishment in deep state like mega versus you know,

1067
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,679
the the Ahstle elite. Like that's all those are all components,

1068
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:48,280
so like the same the same constellation of conflicts that

1069
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,719
have characterized America since after the war point of the States,

1070
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,039
you know, in some way, shape or form that I

1071
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:56,360
mean that deserves it's all like a dedicated episode in

1072
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:56,920
its own right.

1073
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: Look, man, we we just laid fought for fucking months

1074
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,480
worth a discussion just from that, just from that.

1075
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Thomas, I appreciate it.

1076
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:10,559
Speaker 2: Take care, all right, brother, appreciate it. Yeah, I think

1077
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,559
this is the perfect time to take a break. I

1078
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:17,119
usually take a break in my show, Pete and Stormy.

1079
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:20,760
I'm good for a minimum another hour if you guys

1080
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,320
don't mind a quick break, I would love to pick

1081
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,239
up some of those threats and talk to all the guys.

1082
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:27,400
In fact, Stormy, I have a direct question from what

1083
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,280
you just said before you come back.

1084
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,199
Speaker 3: Time.

1085
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: All right, I'll be right back.

1086
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: M h.

1087
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,719
Speaker 2: Stormy. What was that theory you dropped early?

1088
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,199
Speaker 4: You've told me about that before, Rogers theorem. That's why

1089
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:42,599
Elon bought Twitter. I think that's why Elon bought Twitter.

1090
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:47,679
Speaker 2: You're right back, Well, I think that was very pertinent

1091
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:51,360
to bring up. And it's happening. It's happening. So the

1092
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,559
thing you said about woman's intuition.

1093
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:56,199
Speaker 4: Elan didn't buy Twitter. If E didn't buy Twitter, none

1094
01:01:56,239 --> 01:01:59,000
of this would have happened. Right, He changed the entire

1095
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:03,039
political landscape just by allowing the flow of information to

1096
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:06,960
reach from little tiny frogo sphere. Because it's not just

1097
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,800
it's not just the Jay stuff. Right. You can't, like,

1098
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:15,760
I'm sorry, like, you can't name a conservative taking any

1099
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,519
pro zionist stance on anything that is not getting just hammered.

1100
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the left and the right. But the mainstream

1101
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,800
media in two years, the mainstream media narrative isn't working.

1102
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,599
It didn't work. It lost, It lost the election. It

1103
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:37,280
lost the election when you talked about the threat, the

1104
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,320
woman's intuition entering a room and feeling she's under threat

1105
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,320
but not knowing why.

1106
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,639
Speaker 4: There's dozens of studies on that.

1107
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: This got Trump millions of votes. Though, this phenomenon got

1108
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,280
Trump millions of votes because a lot of independence and

1109
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,360
even some Democrats flipped over to Trump. And the New

1110
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,239
York Times went out and asked these people directly, individuals

1111
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:02,239
the interview Yeah, asked them, why did you flip or

1112
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,760
why'd you vote for Trump? Why'd you go independent? Why'd

1113
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,119
you go for Trump and not the Democrats? And the

1114
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:11,840
number one response was immigration, because the Democrats went so

1115
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,199
insane with letting so many people in during the Biden administration.

1116
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:20,199
And I think that it was that sense, that intuition

1117
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,920
of a threat.

1118
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: And I don't think like crime. I don't think that's

1119
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,360
not what it is. I think like a racial threat,

1120
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,320
like somebody narrative.

1121
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,639
Speaker 2: The media narrative that was trying to deny that that

1122
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,719
existed didn't work. They weren't able to like si out

1123
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,239
people into buying into all this liberal bullshit. And also

1124
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,280
the thing that didn't work is that they saw with

1125
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,519
their own eyes that the insane policies that the Democratic

1126
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:53,280
administration were causing the threat, they were making the threat worse.

1127
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:57,960
So aniko tyranny, which is what they were trying to use,

1128
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,519
which is what the Floyd riots were was Annako tyranny

1129
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:05,599
didn't work. It had it had the opposite effect, and

1130
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,880
it worked. It won Trump the election on the terms

1131
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:10,719
that you're discussed.

1132
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:16,079
Speaker 4: All the Daoists out there, that's no surprise. Why, oh

1133
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:19,639
the dallast it's action. Uh. Daoism is like is like

1134
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:25,599
mysticism for for rulers. Right, It's there's a principle in there.

1135
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:26,880
It's called action without action.

1136
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:27,559
Speaker 3: Right.

1137
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: If you're the if you're the ruler, if you're the

1138
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,000
guy in charge, right, you have to flow your rule,

1139
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:39,639
Your governance needs to flow like like nature. Right, whenever

1140
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,159
you try and force something to happen that's not already happening,

1141
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:48,239
not already a current, you will get the exact opposite

1142
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,400
of whatever you try and do every time, because you're

1143
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,519
going against the like your people are kind of like

1144
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,840
just the little receptors of a visible current. Right, they're

1145
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,960
just like the little tiny you know, like the little

1146
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:09,079
lights flashing on the runway, Like that's just a current

1147
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,519
of electricity going through and then going through again. You're

1148
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:18,079
basically trying to, you know, reverse something that's much bigger

1149
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:21,320
than you and much more much invisible is invisible, and

1150
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,559
you will always generate. Whenever you try and forcibly change

1151
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,239
the trajectory of this, you will get the exact opposite thing. Right,

1152
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,400
You're trying to awaken black racial consciousness up now you've

1153
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:40,000
got white racial consciousness. Oops, that's problem.

1154
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so what do you guys think for whatever

1155
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,840
it is we're trying to do? And Pete, you've got

1156
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,440
a lot of series with Thomas, Your show, even the

1157
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,519
episodes without Thomas are educating people. It's educating people. And

1158
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,559
what do you think? My the quickest way I can

1159
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:04,960
characterize what I think Trump does for these ideas, I mean,

1160
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,880
I think he helps people in real life materially, But

1161
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:11,239
what he does for our ideas at the very least,

1162
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,039
is he gives us breathing room. He gives us breathing

1163
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,760
room so that we can let these ideas percolate. But

1164
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,199
I'd like to ask Pete, what do you think a

1165
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,800
Trump victory does for I don't know. I guess I'll

1166
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,559
just say the right wing, our guys, Yeah, our guys,

1167
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:30,559
our guys us.

1168
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it allows us. I'm hoping it allows

1169
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:45,559
us to start realizing that the progressive, the wokeism is

1170
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:51,519
dying to the point where it's not powerful, it's not

1171
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,559
something that needs to be a focus anymore. What I'm

1172
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:04,159
hoping is from our guys and is they have to

1173
01:07:04,239 --> 01:07:08,840
start looking at the real threat to the right wing

1174
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:15,840
and the real threat to to us, and it's oh,

1175
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,760
it's the same threat that it's been for you know,

1176
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,920
basically one hundred years. It's the same same group that's

1177
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,719
given us wokeism. It's the same group that's given us

1178
01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:30,400
mass immigration. It's the same group. It's the same group

1179
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:39,000
that's basically tried to destroy white European Christendom. And by

1180
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:43,440
Trump actually being friendly to that group, I think it

1181
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:47,159
helps more people to It's going to help more of

1182
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:50,519
our guys who aren't willing to step over the line

1183
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,920
that I you know that I have and that you

1184
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,800
know a lot of us have to start saying why

1185
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:04,800
are we allowing these and these radical leftist Jews to

1186
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:10,440
control our culture and control our politics, because that's I

1187
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,760
think that's what the next thing is. The next thing

1188
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,000
is is like, if we're going to if we're going

1189
01:08:16,039 --> 01:08:20,720
to make America great again, this has to be about America.

1190
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:28,319
And I don't know that it's even possible at this

1191
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,720
point or at any point in the near future to

1192
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:41,520
decouple from the Zionist power and leftist Jewish power. And

1193
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,279
I think it's going to cause more people to talk

1194
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,760
do what Thomas is talking about, is to just separate

1195
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,319
and do everything they can to get away from this regime.

1196
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: And if everybody knows, they'll just what two percent.

1197
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,199
Speaker 1: Stay in charge?

1198
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:03,119
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if ye, well here's what I can't

1199
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,640
figure out. But yeah, but here here's the thing is.

1200
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,359
You know, I was having a conversation with with somebody

1201
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,840
on in DMS on Twitter today, you know, and he

1202
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,279
was talking about conservatism and everything. I said, well, conservatism

1203
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:19,600
is you know, why would I want to conserve anything

1204
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,239
because conservatism is left wing? And he said, well, how

1205
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,600
is conservatism left wing? And I said, well, define? I said,

1206
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,359
define conservatism for me, and he said, well, holding true

1207
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,640
to the values of the founding of America. And I said, oh,

1208
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,760
so you meant you mean white European rule.

1209
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: You mean.

1210
01:09:40,039 --> 01:09:42,319
Speaker 3: The only people who can vote are white males who

1211
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:46,800
are property owners. Okay, so where is that in conservatism?

1212
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,520
And he's and he's like, shit, you're right, And I'm like,

1213
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:59,399
most conservatives are civil rights regime Americans h and the

1214
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,840
civil rights regime destroyed the constitution. There is no constitution anymore.

1215
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,199
The Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four is the

1216
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:13,119
constitution of the United States. And I don't know how

1217
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:18,319
you break people of that. I mean, sure, a lot

1218
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:20,399
of it has to do with the fact that boomers

1219
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,920
live through that, and boomers look at it as something

1220
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:26,560
very important, and boomers are going to die off. They're

1221
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,960
dying off more every year. Gen X, I think gen

1222
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:35,399
X as a gen x Er, we're a nihilist. We're

1223
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:40,560
a very nihilistic generation. I don't know that we care

1224
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,079
so much and invest. The problem is, I don't know

1225
01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:50,000
that most gen xers care enough to rebel against occupation Millennials.

1226
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,479
Millennials don't care enough. Millennials aren't going to do anything

1227
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,279
to insult anybody in any kind of way that could

1228
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:02,119
be ethnic or religious, or whatever. So I think it's

1229
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,960
going to come down to the zoomers. So the quicker

1230
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:10,079
we can get the zoomers in power, the better, the

1231
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:13,239
better chance we have of breaking that two point four

1232
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:17,279
percent that are basically haven't been controlling our politics now

1233
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:20,840
for I wouldn't even say one hundred years. I would say, really,

1234
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,479
the founding, just the founding of the Lacud party is

1235
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,600
really where you where you see it?

1236
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: Which was a crime, which was when was the Lacud

1237
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,960
party found it was with the founding of the nation

1238
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:35,199
of this.

1239
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: Late seventies is lacued late seventies. Let me look up

1240
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,159
real quick.

1241
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, about when organized crime got diplomatic community.

1242
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 2: But I mean I would I mean, you have to

1243
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:47,960
go at least Steen seventy three.

1244
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen seventy three.

1245
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,119
Speaker 2: Why would you make it that late though, I mean

1246
01:11:52,119 --> 01:11:53,840
the Civil Rights Act was prior to that.

1247
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: The founding.

1248
01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:00,359
Speaker 4: They still haven't, they still haven't hadn't completely disenfranchised Mike people.

1249
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the basically every war since nineteen seventy

1250
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,640
three has been a war for Israel. Yeah, and they

1251
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,920
go to go ahead.

1252
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say say World War two was

1253
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,640
a war for Israeli. Israel didn't even exist yet.

1254
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 3: Well, it was a war. It was a war for

1255
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,439
world Jewry. They had come in, they had come into power,

1256
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,840
and they were put I mean, I don't know, it's

1257
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,800
kind of I mean, if you look through the Eisenhower years,

1258
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:44,800
mean is where do you where do you really see?

1259
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,560
I mean, you see there's a lot of the there's

1260
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,760
a lot like the pushing of Brown versus Board of

1261
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,880
Education and things like that. Sure you can point towards that,

1262
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,960
but it wasn't like a full on There was still

1263
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,119
remnants that we're fighting against it throughout the sixty These

1264
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:03,680
people can talk about the sixties being this oh hippie generation.

1265
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,520
I mean in nineteen sixty eight they voted in Nixon. Yeah,

1266
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:17,279
you know that, and that was meant Nixon won in

1267
01:13:17,319 --> 01:13:18,079
a landslide.

1268
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1269
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: So I mean it's not like we it's not like

1270
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:26,319
the lost who we were. It was. It was after that.

1271
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,960
It was after Vietnam. It was after it was really

1272
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,279
with the you know, I would even say the Reagan

1273
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:36,960
Coalish and bringing in all of these bringing in all

1274
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,760
of these evangelicals in there, who are evangelicals for is

1275
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,960
I mean they're all Israel Bursters. So you know, I mean,

1276
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,000
I don't think it was full on capture until I

1277
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:52,560
mean the COUD came into power and you know, was

1278
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,439
created in seventy three, but their power really started to

1279
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,880
really take off like seventy nine ninety eight.

1280
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 4: Well this really interesting then because a le coute party

1281
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:11,039
is almost dead and b Israel is almost dead. Well okay,

1282
01:14:11,039 --> 01:14:15,159
now we got guys calling each other wasps now powerful

1283
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:18,159
guys like like Astra to the point like we're we're

1284
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:21,800
talking about like World War two. In my series with Pete,

1285
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:29,720
we outline how both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party,

1286
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,039
the Democrat Party having just put FDR into into the

1287
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:37,319
White House and within six months they had figured out

1288
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:41,960
what was up. They're like, oh, this isn't Actually they

1289
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,319
didn't know that FDR was hiding a bunch of you know,

1290
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,359
Jews under like Bolshevik Jews underneath his wheelchair. You know,

1291
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,600
they just scooted him on in there, and then holy shit.

1292
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:59,119
Because the American Liberty League was was the precursor to

1293
01:15:01,359 --> 01:15:05,880
the America First political movement. This is you know, in

1294
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,359
the nascent days, but there was a lot more firepower

1295
01:15:08,399 --> 01:15:12,239
behind the American Liberty League. You had the head of

1296
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:18,039
the Democratic Party, right, who was previously right before FDR.

1297
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,680
I should I can't remember his name, right, So you

1298
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,760
had Al Smith. You hadl Al Smith, who was the

1299
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,199
Democrat Party presidential candidate the year of the election cycle

1300
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:37,640
before FDR and the chairman of the DNC for thirty years.

1301
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:42,159
Then you had the head of the Republican Party right,

1302
01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:47,079
and you had taff was there. But also you had

1303
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,720
John J. Raskin, who was the largest funder of the

1304
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,000
d n C. He is the chairman and chairman, founder

1305
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:56,640
and chairman of General Motors. And then on the other side,

1306
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,079
also in the American Liberty League, you had Henry Ford.

1307
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,800
You had Henry Ford. You had Jack Morgan, the son

1308
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,800
of Pierpont Morgan.

1309
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:07,199
Speaker 1: You had.

1310
01:16:09,239 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 4: Nelson, Sorry John, I can't remember it was Nelson or

1311
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:25,640
Nelson's dad, Nelson's dad, John Rockefeller Junior. Anyways, you had

1312
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:33,359
the Rockefellers. You had Irie and Pierre DuPont. You had

1313
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,039
literally all of the capital in America, like all of

1314
01:16:37,079 --> 01:16:44,000
the wasp aristocracy. They're banking empires, their industrial empires. All right,

1315
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,479
you had the chairman of the Democrat Party that just

1316
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,640
put FDR in and the chairman of the Republican Party.

1317
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,920
You had Huey Long, you had Father Cochlan, all on

1318
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,800
this in the same place at the same time, in

1319
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,520
the same organization, going what the fuck is happening? Who

1320
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,760
are these people? How did they get here? And I

1321
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:09,600
read one of their speeches on Peach Show. These men

1322
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:14,079
are scared of something, right. None of these guys are friends.

1323
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,439
Raskin and Ford used to feud like on a legendary level, right,

1324
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,520
more than Mark Cuban and Elon have ever Like I'm

1325
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:29,880
talking like, you know, actually industrial espionage, industrial sabotage, ar

1326
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,239
sin like these guys were at war. Al Smith would

1327
01:17:35,279 --> 01:17:37,239
have never been caught in the same room with any

1328
01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:41,119
of those guys. And these guys were like, this is

1329
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:45,399
the most important thing in the world. Somebody has taken

1330
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:49,560
over our government. They're talking directly about communism, They're talking

1331
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,000
directly about Bolshevism, right, They're like, this, this FDR or

1332
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:57,840
this new Deal regime isn't from the Democrats, This isn't

1333
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,399
anything that we want. This is anything the publicly, This

1334
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:05,239
is coming from somewhere else. And the only thing that

1335
01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:11,319
could have stopped those men was Pearl Harbor because it did.

1336
01:18:13,119 --> 01:18:16,520
They used a war twice. They used a war to

1337
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,560
solidify their control over a year over over England and

1338
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,720
World War One, and they used the exact same tactic. Yeah,

1339
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,600
because the Waspburger stock Rescy was already onto them, like

1340
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:29,800
we had, like everybody had figured out what the fuck

1341
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,199
was going on and to who the enemies were.

1342
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I dropped Yaki and revel O p Oliver as

1343
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,560
two guys to kind of show as beacons of you

1344
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,479
know what the right wing once was. Both of them

1345
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,359
insist that we wanted Japan to attack Pearl Harbor and

1346
01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:52,720
we let it have Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they say

1347
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,880
that we did for that reason that you just named,

1348
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,640
because that was the only way for their revolution, the

1349
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:05,159
revolution in nineteen thirty three, uh, to really solidify take effect. Yeah,

1350
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:08,479
and the stuff Pete was talking about. Pete, I appreciate

1351
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,640
what you said a lot, and you used a very

1352
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,960
important word. I want to point out too. You're talking

1353
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,079
about Nixon. How late that was. George Wallace ran for

1354
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:21,199
president seventy two, didn't he. Yeah, Yeah, so that lately

1355
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:24,039
had George Washington on the president George Wallace on the

1356
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:24,880
presidential ticket.

1357
01:19:26,399 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. So how fortunately his his his campaign slogan was

1358
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,640
stand up for America, and after that run he didn't

1359
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,560
do any standing up.

1360
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: So well, you know, Pete, I don't know. I don't

1361
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:38,560
know how much time you have.

1362
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: Pee.

1363
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: I want to I want to pick up something you said.

1364
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,600
But before I do, I want to ask you a question. Actually,

1365
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:47,079
because part of the inspiration that me and Stormy, Me

1366
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:50,039
and Stormy cooked this whole thing up and uh, you know,

1367
01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:52,800
hopefully we can get a lot of episodes out of this.

1368
01:19:53,399 --> 01:19:58,520
Part of our inspiration was sign yeah you can, he's

1369
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,439
he's bullshitting. Part of our inspiration for that was to

1370
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,640
sort of track to some extent how far we've fallen.

1371
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,800
There's like a dark ages of the right wing definitely,

1372
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,159
you know, the George W. H the George W. Bush administration,

1373
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,680
the Clinton administration. It was like it was like a

1374
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,800
dark age. We went underground, the palaeocons were kicked out

1375
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,680
by the neocons, and then we had this resurgence. Do

1376
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,119
you it looks like you've pretty much already answered this question,

1377
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:28,920
but I want I want you to elaborate on if

1378
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,800
you'd like to. Do you think we've gotten it back

1379
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,119
to some extent? Do you think at least some factions

1380
01:20:37,239 --> 01:20:40,039
or some outlets of the quote unquote right right wing

1381
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:43,079
are sort of picking up the thread and keeping it

1382
01:20:43,119 --> 01:20:45,039
at that level. Or do you think we have a

1383
01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:47,279
lot more building to do? In other words, if this

1384
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:50,039
has been going on for almost ten years now since

1385
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:54,159
the first Trump administration, do you what phase do you

1386
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:55,880
think we're at? I mean, do you think there's still

1387
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,560
a lot more work to do ideologically or do you

1388
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,640
think the stuff Thomas has been talking about, the on

1389
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,960
the ground stuff, is like what we need to take

1390
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,560
and run with.

1391
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,199
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Let me just make something clear.

1392
01:21:09,079 --> 01:21:11,000
People are going to think that I don't think the

1393
01:21:11,119 --> 01:21:13,439
Jews were in charge until nineteen seven.

1394
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't give you a compression. I was

1395
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,479
saying the takeover.

1396
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,119
Speaker 3: It's just the takeover wasn't complete until yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1397
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:25,520
Speaker 2: So all right, I hope I didn't mischaracterize anything you said.

1398
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,079
Speaker 3: No, that's fine, No, no, no, it's fine. I'm glad.

1399
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I'm glad you you pushed back a little bit on it,

1400
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,079
because that that needs to be cleared up. What I

1401
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:40,600
would say is it seems that the closest we could

1402
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,600
have gotten to getting back to where we were was

1403
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,319
the paleocon movement of the of the late eighties and

1404
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:53,279
early nineties, and I think that well, it went away. Obviously,

1405
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,680
it was defeated and it was defeated from the inside.

1406
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:04,720
It was defeated. It wasn't defeated by Clinton by eight

1407
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,399
years of Clinton. It wasn't defeated by Ross Perrot, you know,

1408
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:14,079
talking about economics and things that it was defeated by

1409
01:22:14,199 --> 01:22:22,439
quote unquote right wingers on the inside. That it's exploded

1410
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,960
with with the advent of the internet. These the ideas

1411
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,079
that Pat Buchanan was talking about, and you know, the

1412
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:35,920
palaeocons were talking about they're back and people are going

1413
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:40,640
even further. You know, you talked about how we could

1414
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,279
search Carl Schmidt on on Twitter right now and we'll

1415
01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:47,279
find people talking about Carl Schmidt today. You might find

1416
01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:50,279
people talking about Yaqui today. You'll find definitely find people

1417
01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:57,880
talking about Pat Buchanan. It's growing, it's spreading. The vice

1418
01:22:58,079 --> 01:23:01,800
the Vice President and elect follows our guys and probably

1419
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,920
has a burner where he follows everyone.

1420
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:08,399
Speaker 2: Well, I've heard about this, Elon Musk Berner.

1421
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you have this, you have this happening,

1422
01:23:14,319 --> 01:23:19,720
you have people going These are the ideas that need

1423
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,279
to be embraced. These are the ideas for going forward.

1424
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:30,840
But once again, our greatest enemy is on the inside.

1425
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:36,159
Our greatest enemy is the kosher right.

1426
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 4: This is this was actually the this is actually what

1427
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,760
the this is why I when Astro was saying that

1428
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,920
these are these problems, like you need to do a panel,

1429
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:46,880
and you need to get everybody that you can.

1430
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: It's a while.

1431
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: This is the problem of our time right now. Right

1432
01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:53,880
two things are happening. The liberals are starting to realize

1433
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,680
that they're in real trouble. I don't know if you've

1434
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,039
already seen it, but like New York Times journalists or

1435
01:23:58,039 --> 01:24:00,800
you know, Rachel Maddow is telling everybody on our show

1436
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,319
today that, oh, you just you need to actually like

1437
01:24:03,399 --> 01:24:05,720
reach out and talk to Trump supporters, take them out

1438
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,760
to dinner, get to know them a bit, and see

1439
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,600
if you can slowly change their mind.

1440
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,520
Speaker 1: All right, And.

1441
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 4: Somebody just put a picture the perfect gift of like this,

1442
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,039
this spider or the scorpion is crawling onto the frogs back.

1443
01:24:20,079 --> 01:24:22,079
I'm like, all right, so liberals are going to try

1444
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:27,800
and retake over conservative conservatism, all right, And then we've

1445
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,079
got the kosher right trying to take control of the

1446
01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:34,680
right now at a at this kind of you know,

1447
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,279
in the wake of considerable victory, I consider Elon the

1448
01:24:39,279 --> 01:24:42,000
big victory. I don't consider Trump victory.

1449
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 2: Agree with that that I that is exactly where I'm at.

1450
01:24:47,319 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 4: I see I see Elon doing policy. The fact that

1451
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:54,079
Mike pomp no Pompeo was trending for.

1452
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:57,359
Speaker 2: The last three days, three days, last three days.

1453
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,039
Speaker 4: Who controls what I'm Trump?

1454
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: Trump made the an aouncement today, Trump made the announcements today,

1455
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:06,199
or Haley are not going to be part of the

1456
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:07,960
a part of his White House.

1457
01:25:08,279 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 4: I saw that whose hand, whose hands juggled those algorithms,

1458
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,720
Who decides what's trending and what's not?

1459
01:25:16,199 --> 01:25:20,239
Speaker 3: This is and let me tell you, you know, and

1460
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,159
the thing is is that so we have this term,

1461
01:25:23,399 --> 01:25:25,520
this term that Lindsay came up with a couple of

1462
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,560
years ago. I think he came up with it. I

1463
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,079
don't know who came up with it, but he's the

1464
01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:32,399
one who's trying to push it down. Everyone's throat is

1465
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:38,720
the woke right, and the woke right apparently is there

1466
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,159
are the people who are the people on the right,

1467
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:44,520
who are pushing back against the Kosher right. M hm,

1468
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:51,720
that's all. That's it. We see one ethnic religious whatever

1469
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,560
the fuck you want to call them group who is

1470
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,520
YA has been in control, you know, has has exercise

1471
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:04,000
control for over one hundred years, took total control thirty

1472
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:06,600
forty years ago, and then now we're fighting all their

1473
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,800
wars for them. They want us to continue to fight.

1474
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,600
They're trying to get us to fight their wars for

1475
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:16,399
them now. And we have people on the right, A

1476
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,880
lot of them are noons, which you have to ask

1477
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,800
the question, why are they a nonsh Let me tell

1478
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:26,840
you them. If yeah, if if you're on the right,

1479
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,800
and you're you know, you're you're on the I mean,

1480
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,159
I hate the term dissonent right because it doesn't mean anything.

1481
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,159
But if you're on this, if you're on this side

1482
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:42,279
of the divide, you are pushing back on You're an American,

1483
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:47,279
You're America first, you are, you are heritage America first,

1484
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,520
you are we we should be calling our own shots.

1485
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,680
This foreign influence that has for the last two thousand

1486
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,439
years and further back. Every society they go into, they

1487
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,600
infiltrate into power and they start trying to guide things

1488
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:10,279
in everything in their direction for their benefit. If you're

1489
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,199
not concentrating on that, if you're not talking about that,

1490
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,720
I don't know that you're on our side.

1491
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Also don't know why you're a non

1492
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:23,359
unless you want to infiltrate. If you're anonymous and you're

1493
01:27:23,399 --> 01:27:25,960
not naming the j what do you what are you

1494
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:28,079
protecting yourself from with your anonymity?

1495
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 3: What is the point or if you're or if you're

1496
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,680
you name the jay a little bit, but then you

1497
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,920
go and then and and then you counter signal. The

1498
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,800
way I look at it is if you counter signal,

1499
01:27:41,359 --> 01:27:46,880
you're then you're out. You're out. Yeah, well you once

1500
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,920
you start and this is what Rufo did. Rufo started doing. Recently,

1501
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:56,000
Rufo put out an article about Charlotte, about Charltroy, Pennsylvania,

1502
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,640
and he mentioned in that article that Jewish Family and

1503
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,199
Children's Services were the ones who were bringing the Haitians

1504
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:06,600
in there, and that they were working in there every

1505
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,800
every week, and they were, they were, they were, they

1506
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:17,000
were behind this And apparently and then not a week later,

1507
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,239
he's counter signaling and he's calling out quote unquote antisemites.

1508
01:28:23,399 --> 01:28:26,800
It's like he did this article, put this out didn't

1509
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,239
clear it with his bosses and got yelled at. And

1510
01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:34,199
now he's like on, you know, on on the attack

1511
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,119
for anybody who is. And then he hires two women.

1512
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,680
He announces that he's hiring two women to come in

1513
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,760
and work, and then when you go into their backgrounds

1514
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,319
you find out they used to work for Jewish NGOs,

1515
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:54,920
and it's like, okay, well, I know who if if

1516
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,840
you're worried about who's controlled this government, if you believe

1517
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:03,279
Thomas masseyrobably the most honest man in the government, and

1518
01:29:03,319 --> 01:29:07,119
he says, everybody but me has an apac candler, has

1519
01:29:07,159 --> 01:29:12,560
an apack babysitter. We're a fucking occupied government by a

1520
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:17,319
foreign power. And that foreign power is call it Zionists.

1521
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:23,640
All Zionists are you know, these Zionists are Jews. Okay,

1522
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,239
if you're not talking about that, or if you're making

1523
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:30,960
excuses for it, or if you're hiding the fact that

1524
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,279
you're Jewish and you're saying you know, you're saying that, oh,

1525
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,159
Jews need to be coddled, and you know, we need

1526
01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:42,279
to we need to sell them on ourselves. But then

1527
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,640
when it comes to like women who vote wrong, you

1528
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,640
say those women need to be attacked and they need

1529
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:48,479
to be called out.

1530
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 2: This kosher right you're talking about. Let's just be honest.

1531
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,000
They're just neo cons really, And the funny thing is

1532
01:29:57,119 --> 01:30:00,359
the thing that kills me is they're like, we're not

1533
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,600
neocons because we're racist, and you're like, well, that's really funny,

1534
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,319
because the neocons all were racist up until you know,

1535
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,720
George W. Bush's ethical conservatism, and then all of a sudden,

1536
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:16,600
the neocons were this like completely you know, melting pot,

1537
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,319
non racist, non racialized party.

1538
01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everybody everybody's racist, everyone is racist.

1539
01:30:27,039 --> 01:30:28,760
Anyone who's ever lived in New York.

1540
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 4: Tell everybody where racism came from. Tell everybody that you

1541
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:38,359
did a show the term racism. The term racism came

1542
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:45,840
from the same place that transgenderism came from magnets in Germany.

1543
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,039
He came up with the term, he promoted that. I

1544
01:30:49,079 --> 01:30:50,720
don't know if he came up with the term, but

1545
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,199
he definitely promoted the term and put it into the zeitgeist.

1546
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:59,960
The reason I just think whites can be racistus hirschfeldt

1547
01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:03,960
they're actually being doctrinally correct when they say, oh, no,

1548
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,760
racism is actually just in group preference and cultural preference,

1549
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,439
except for when white people do it.

1550
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: When white people do this, it's called racism.

1551
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 4: And then it, you know, becomes this nefarious and evil thing,

1552
01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:22,000
but only when European populations do it. That right there

1553
01:31:22,199 --> 01:31:26,479
is directly Magnus Hirschfeld who wrote it because the Germans

1554
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,279
didn't want to let him have his child brothel anymore.

1555
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I dropped the term melting pot. Who came

1556
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,960
up with the term melting pot one of this guy's ethnics.

1557
01:31:37,319 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 4: To your point, I found a very interesting thread today

1558
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:48,079
and I posted it on Acts and I haven't really

1559
01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:50,399
gone too deep in the guy that put it together,

1560
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,880
but it's really good. It's accurate. I'll read your quote

1561
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,000
for it, astroll, since you're not on Twitter anymore. James

1562
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,399
Lindsay worked with Christopher Ruffo at color US United Advocacy

1563
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,840
for a Race Blind America. All Right, I guess who

1564
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:11,000
funds this The Tea COUV Fund, t I k v

1565
01:32:11,399 --> 01:32:19,399
a H Fund and the Manhattan Institute. Yeah. From the tipoff. Yeah,

1566
01:32:20,359 --> 01:32:24,800
so apparently Chris Rufo and James Lindsay I have actually

1567
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:33,760
a bunch of I think you're correct. So these these

1568
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,880
guys aren't kosher rights. This is an OP. This is

1569
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:37,319
an OP.

1570
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Not these guys being backed by these groups and these

1571
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,640
institutes kind of explains their sudden like ubiquity throughout like

1572
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:47,439
all the discourse.

1573
01:32:48,319 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 4: He actually this, this cat goes through and lists totally

1574
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,920
Brett Weinstein, right.

1575
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another one. Well wait no, this.

1576
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,079
Speaker 4: Brother Weinstein's intelligence agent for the st Eric.

1577
01:33:02,199 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eric is the OP.

1578
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 4: Really it's yeah, you know they're they're both ops. Apparently

1579
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,159
apparently it's a family thing. But yeah, I think you

1580
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:12,000
were in my You were in that Twitter You and

1581
01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:14,880
I actually met on that Twitter space where it was

1582
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:19,560
about Lex Friedman's Lexman's one.

1583
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:27,039
Speaker 2: He's another one so completely as I kind of know

1584
01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:30,079
Stormy's answer to this question because we've talked about this,

1585
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:33,600
but I want both of you guys to talk about this.

1586
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,239
You use the term decoupling. Can we decouple America from

1587
01:33:38,279 --> 01:33:42,399
this uh alien face hugger that's just like pumping its

1588
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:47,520
fucking ideology down our throat. The Yaqui's whole thing is that,

1589
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,319
like we can't like he called America the enemy of Europe,

1590
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,680
and in that essay he doesn't ever say America. He

1591
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,000
never refers to US as just America. He always called

1592
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:04,560
it Jewish America every time, and his whole thing is that, like,

1593
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,680
we can't be decoupled. And Thomas said earlier, Yaki was right,

1594
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,239
and he was and if you read The Enemy of America,

1595
01:34:10,279 --> 01:34:15,319
it's very clear that he was correct. But yeah, sorry,

1596
01:34:15,319 --> 01:34:20,760
thank you. But now it's you know, fifty sixty seventy

1597
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,760
years after he wrote that, and a lot of things

1598
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,359
have transpired, and I definitely think we are in a

1599
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,000
historical singularity, at least since World War Two. Now I

1600
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,720
think we're in totally new territory and it's uncharted for

1601
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,880
America since then, and it looks like there may be

1602
01:34:38,039 --> 01:34:44,800
a chance that we can decouple from Jewish influence. Let

1603
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,239
me just be explicit about it, Pete. Do you think

1604
01:34:49,039 --> 01:34:50,880
does it look like it's going that way to you?

1605
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,039
Or do you think we should just write it off

1606
01:34:53,039 --> 01:34:54,880
like Yaki did and say it's not going to happen.

1607
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:56,399
We need to do something different.

1608
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 3: I think it is going that way, but I think

1609
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,720
there's really only one way that it's going to accelerate,

1610
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:09,479
and that's that Americans are going to have to accept

1611
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:15,359
an identity as Americans. I was talking. I have an

1612
01:35:15,359 --> 01:35:19,680
episode dropping tomorrow with Paul Fahrenheit and John Slaughter, and

1613
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,840
the whole episode is about the Confederate flag and that

1614
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,079
the Confederate flag, when you look back in our history,

1615
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:34,479
is really the only symbol of heritage America that exists.

1616
01:35:35,039 --> 01:35:39,279
And you know, we were we didn't say we said

1617
01:35:39,279 --> 01:35:42,800
that it would be you know, the Confederate flag would

1618
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,399
be great if if we can make but it just

1619
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,279
has to be something. It has to be a symbol.

1620
01:35:47,359 --> 01:35:49,920
It has to be that myth. We need that myth.

1621
01:35:50,119 --> 01:35:53,720
You know, when I first saw the whole woke Right thing,

1622
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:57,159
I saw it as a myth war. And that's that's

1623
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:00,479
what they're fighting against. When when Daryl went on went

1624
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:06,840
on top and said that the that Churchill was the

1625
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,560
villain of World War two, he was attacking myth and

1626
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:16,079
Constantine Kisson's whole argument for why that's woke right is

1627
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:21,520
because the left attacks our myths, they attack the myth

1628
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,000
of you know that they tear down our statues, They

1629
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,720
turned down all of this stuff. They want to get

1630
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,399
rid of these myths and institute their own myths. Well,

1631
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:34,880
it's if you're going to have control over a population,

1632
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,199
over a land, mask you're going to need your own myths,

1633
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,359
and if there's a myth that exists, you're going to

1634
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:44,000
have to destroy that myth. And we have our founding myths.

1635
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,439
The only problem is is that they've been suppled. They've

1636
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,800
been supplanted by another myth, which is the War two,

1637
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:55,439
the myth of the of the Civil rights the Civil

1638
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,199
Rights Act. So yeah, it's if you want to say

1639
01:37:00,359 --> 01:37:04,760
it's woke right to attack myths. Yeah, but the myths

1640
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,800
that I'm attacking have nothing to do with the original

1641
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:12,319
myths of this country. These are myths that replaced the

1642
01:37:12,319 --> 01:37:15,960
the myth, the founding myths of this country. And these

1643
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:22,119
myths come from outside America. They're not American himself.

1644
01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Look, this is this is viral. This is viral rewriting

1645
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,640
of the DNA, so that the virus is replicated by

1646
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,159
the perpetuation of our DNA. That's what they're doing by

1647
01:37:33,159 --> 01:37:36,159
putting these different myths in here. The trunks is literally

1648
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:37,560
like overcooled.

1649
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,159
Speaker 4: The understand they understand mysticism.

1650
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,199
Speaker 2: Before you get into the mysticism thing, I want you to.

1651
01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:47,239
Speaker 4: Create a paradigm. It's not just. It's not just, it's

1652
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,600
it is a entire The Jews are masters of this, Right,

1653
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,920
they don't try and create binaries between two different facts

1654
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:01,560
or two different political positions. Right, It's it's much deeper

1655
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,800
than that, and that's why it has sticking power, it

1656
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:10,279
has permanence, and it's also why people can't get out

1657
01:38:10,319 --> 01:38:15,960
of the It traps them in the in the diad

1658
01:38:16,039 --> 01:38:21,640
that they're set at. The purpose of dialectics is hermeticism, right,

1659
01:38:22,119 --> 01:38:25,800
it's the principle of polarity, is what they're doing. Right. So,

1660
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,359
what they're basically doing is like we on the surface,

1661
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:34,199
like when when what's his name, the ADL guy green

1662
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:37,319
blaz a little gollum, Yeah, green Black. When he's saying like,

1663
01:38:37,359 --> 01:38:40,199
oh well, we've been playing a left right game, he

1664
01:38:40,279 --> 01:38:42,000
makes it sound like, oh well, we just wind up

1665
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,479
the left and we wind up the right and we throw

1666
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,039
it at each other. But it's a lot more than that.

1667
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,600
These people are trapped in.

1668
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,319
Speaker 1: They've the.

1669
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:57,319
Speaker 4: Media and the kind of cultural apparatus has created entirely

1670
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:05,680
different world views. Right, They're what they see as reality, Right,

1671
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,560
what options they think are available to them at any

1672
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,880
look at the pandemic? Right, this is this shows you,

1673
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:16,880
like how too different, how how intricate paradigms are because

1674
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:21,000
the solutions and options that our side thought was available

1675
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:23,640
to us, Right, we're gonna we can do this thing,

1676
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,079
we can do this other thing, We're can try different

1677
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:28,720
types of like we're gonna go and like dig up

1678
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,119
old bits of science and try and find other treatment.

1679
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:35,520
Like these were options that we found that were available

1680
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:39,319
to us. The other side none of those options, none

1681
01:39:39,359 --> 01:39:43,319
of those pathways were even it didn't even exist. They

1682
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,760
were outside of their paradigm. So it not only affects

1683
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,840
how you act in that particular culture or that particular

1684
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:56,319
conflict diad right, but it affects how you maneuver, right,

1685
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,479
like what things you will take in as immediately true

1686
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,560
and immediately falls a problem gets dropped in your lamp.

1687
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,840
Oh yeah, and if I control your paradigm, I know,

1688
01:40:05,279 --> 01:40:08,079
I know, like, oh, your house is on fire, Well,

1689
01:40:09,239 --> 01:40:12,800
paradigm A, all of these doors are closed off and

1690
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,800
they're sealed off, right, And only these two doors over

1691
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,880
here are available in paradigm B. Right, the exact opposite,

1692
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,159
we got three door. Like, you control how people's minds move,

1693
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,119
you control how they think, and then you can pretty

1694
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:29,640
much control how they will interact with any particular new information.

1695
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, you get you get your mind. They trap

1696
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,239
your mind in a thought prison, and then any maneuvering

1697
01:40:36,279 --> 01:40:40,399
that you do feels like you're maneuvering, you're out maneuvering

1698
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:42,640
whatever's being thrown at you, but you're still trapped with

1699
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,640
the confines at that thought prison. And uh yeah, so

1700
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:46,520
what I was saying.

1701
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 3: Check check this out. Okay. A story came out today

1702
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:54,640
by ABC ABC all over the country. Locals had this

1703
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:02,560
that an Iranian national and Iranian America and hired came

1704
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:08,239
to was hired by the Iranian Republican Guard and everything

1705
01:41:09,239 --> 01:41:15,319
to assassinate Trump. And it says that along that two

1706
01:41:15,399 --> 01:41:18,000
men were arrested in the United States for it, and

1707
01:41:18,079 --> 01:41:21,760
it was two Jews. And when they say what now,

1708
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,279
where does the article say? And this is just a level,

1709
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,520
This is a level of how you have to think

1710
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,680
about these things because it's so it's so much propaganda

1711
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,760
and it's so much brainwashing. So where is this Iranian?

1712
01:41:37,359 --> 01:41:42,359
He's in Tehran. This guy doesn't even exist. Probably this

1713
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:47,520
guy doesn't even exist. These two Jews got caught in

1714
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,920
an assassination plot. And the cover story is that there's

1715
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,840
this guy someplace where they can't get him that is

1716
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:02,000
pulling the strings on all of it. Yeah, okay, and

1717
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,159
people will buy this one percent. And I bought the

1718
01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:08,560
story until it was like until I realized, oh, wait

1719
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,720
a minute, this guy. They didn't arrest this guy. They're

1720
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,520
saying he's in Tehran pulling the strings on these people.

1721
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,079
How do you know, how do we know this person?

1722
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:23,680
How do we know there's a real person? And this

1723
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,640
is the kind of stuff that we're this is our

1724
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:32,880
reality in our reality is fantasy. Our reality is fantasy.

1725
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,319
Speaker 2: Half the country laps it up. Yeah, Stormy sent me that.

1726
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:38,560
Stormy sent me that article.

1727
01:42:39,079 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 4: So it's the perfect example of it, right, And then

1728
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:46,359
when certain people read that information, they're immediately going to

1729
01:42:46,399 --> 01:42:48,840
think certain certain thoughts to how we got to solve

1730
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:53,720
the Iranian to solve the Iranian you know, puppeteer problem,

1731
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,520
the Iranian occupied government.

1732
01:42:56,399 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 2: So in terms of in terms of this decoupling that

1733
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:04,319
I it looks like there's potential for it to happen. Yeah,

1734
01:43:04,359 --> 01:43:08,119
there were conversations, there were conversations about this going on

1735
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,720
in the fifties and sixties. How are we going to

1736
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:15,119
do this? And I was reading realmwhere well, I was

1737
01:43:15,159 --> 01:43:17,319
well here's what I want to say. And me and

1738
01:43:17,359 --> 01:43:20,720
you've talked about this story. I was reading revel O Oliver,

1739
01:43:21,119 --> 01:43:23,640
who I keep mentioning because everyone has to read him.

1740
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,760
He will change your fucking life and he will make

1741
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:30,279
you realize how limp wristed and milk toast the right

1742
01:43:30,279 --> 01:43:33,640
wing is now compared to this guy he was. He

1743
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,319
was denigrating the people on the right who were saying

1744
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:38,880
that we need to split the Jews and basically like

1745
01:43:39,159 --> 01:43:43,119
split them on Communism versus Zionism and say get them

1746
01:43:43,159 --> 01:43:44,079
going after each other.

1747
01:43:44,279 --> 01:43:45,319
Speaker 4: They're saying it'll never work.

1748
01:43:46,359 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Well back then, Oliver was saying it'll never work. But

1749
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:55,000
back then they were talking about an active action that

1750
01:43:55,079 --> 01:43:58,880
they the right wing took to make that happen. I

1751
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,680
think that that has happened, and they did it to

1752
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:07,079
themselves when October seventh happened, because yeah, Peate shaking his head,

1753
01:44:07,159 --> 01:44:09,760
So I don't really need to expect they did it

1754
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,680
to themselves.

1755
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 3: I've said since October seventh that there's a Jewish civil

1756
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:14,319
war going on.

1757
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1758
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,399
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm bringing it up, though, is that

1759
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,800
we have to be opportunistic with this. We need to

1760
01:44:21,039 --> 01:44:24,039
like to see this for what it is and take

1761
01:44:24,079 --> 01:44:28,479
the opportunity to jump in and ride that wave and

1762
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,960
to cynically steer any of it towards us for our

1763
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,520
benefit and our goals. One of the questions I asked

1764
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,159
Stormy was like, well, what do we do with the

1765
01:44:36,199 --> 01:44:40,439
anti Zionist left. The only people I see out there

1766
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:44,159
denouncing them are the Kosher right, And I think it's

1767
01:44:44,199 --> 01:44:46,279
because they're scared of them. Because I think they're scared

1768
01:44:47,319 --> 01:44:48,119
because a lot.

1769
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:48,199
Speaker 1: Of the.

1770
01:44:50,079 --> 01:44:54,239
Speaker 2: Left who's going after Israel now are not Jewish. They're

1771
01:44:54,279 --> 01:44:57,640
the liberals who were in lockstep with everything the Jews

1772
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,119
wanted up until now.

1773
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the.

1774
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:12,159
Speaker 3: I think the I don't know that you can take

1775
01:45:12,199 --> 01:45:14,079
them both down at the same time. So you have

1776
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:18,039
to like prioritize. Oh, you can't delegitimize, you know, And

1777
01:45:18,359 --> 01:45:22,000
to me, the first one you delegitimize is the War Party,

1778
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:30,159
because the War Party is pulling pulling us into basically, yeah,

1779
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,720
millions and millions and a billion people hating us and

1780
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,119
also trying to pull us into war. War with Iran

1781
01:45:39,239 --> 01:45:43,600
is ridiculous. You can't win. You can't win a war

1782
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,479
with Iran. I mean, it's just impossible.

1783
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 2: You can't Ukraine fighting a war against Russia is fucking insane.

1784
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so you know, the way I look at

1785
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,359
it is that whatever you want to call that right

1786
01:45:58,399 --> 01:46:04,479
wing Lakud, these just war maniacs. These the settler armies

1787
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:10,640
and everything. We want to destroy them, we want to make,

1788
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,920
we want they we want. I would rather those left

1789
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:23,880
wing lunatics, cultural lunatics take over Israel than the than

1790
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,640
the right wingers. And one of the reasons why because eventually,

1791
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,439
eventually those left wingers are going to be like, you know,

1792
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,720
it's kind of racist that we don't let other people

1793
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,680
in here. And as soon as Israel becomes a multi

1794
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,720
cultural country where it's it's over, then the only thing

1795
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,479
we have to worry about is, you know, like the

1796
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,600
Bank of London, the City of London, places like that,

1797
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:50,800
the centers of Jewish power and banking, and hopefully with

1798
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,279
the and really the City of London, which I believe

1799
01:46:54,399 --> 01:46:56,800
Jerome Powell has been at war with now for two

1800
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,680
two and a half years, three years. If you take

1801
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,359
them down, basically, they're the ones who are who are

1802
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,640
funneling all of the money, well except for you know,

1803
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,199
for us, and you know, but they're the ones who

1804
01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:13,279
are basically guiding that whole project there. And when I

1805
01:47:13,279 --> 01:47:15,279
say City of London, I'm not talking about you know,

1806
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,319
bad teeth and things. I'm talking about the one square

1807
01:47:18,399 --> 01:47:22,399
mile city of London in London that is completely independent

1808
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,840
of England and is just basically a Jewish stronghold. It's

1809
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:30,279
its own sovereign entity within the city of London, where

1810
01:47:30,319 --> 01:47:33,520
the where Herod's is, where all of these these bank

1811
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,359
where world banks are, where all the dirty money in

1812
01:47:37,399 --> 01:47:42,000
the world is filtered through. And you know, Jerome Powell

1813
01:47:42,039 --> 01:47:45,319
has done a great job of cutting them off, and

1814
01:47:46,119 --> 01:47:48,800
you're going to war with them and destroy it, like

1815
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,520
you know, weakening the Euro to the point where the

1816
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:55,000
euro's on its last legs. And the British pound, I mean,

1817
01:47:55,039 --> 01:47:57,520
look at what the British pound is now. The British

1818
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,079
pound is what a buck and a quarter for a

1819
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,800
buck and a quarter compared to like one of our dollars.

1820
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,640
The whole time I was growing up was two dollars

1821
01:48:06,359 --> 01:48:10,520
and it's and that has that's coming down. So the

1822
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,479
way I see it is you have to break if

1823
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:17,479
you break that right wing war party and banking party

1824
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,199
through what Jerome Palell is doing and what's happening with

1825
01:48:21,079 --> 01:48:23,600
I don't know. I mean, they're just trying to go

1826
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,640
to have fight seven front wars, which aren't going to

1827
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,880
work if you break them. And the left, you know,

1828
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,560
the say the city of Tel Aviv advertises the gayest

1829
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,199
city on the planet. Those are the people who get power.

1830
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:42,800
They're going to destroy the country. They'll Israel may not disappear,

1831
01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:46,119
but they're going to destroy their culture. And as soon

1832
01:48:46,159 --> 01:48:50,520
as they destroy their culture, they're basically like anywhere They're

1833
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,399
like anywhere else. And I mean they could even be

1834
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,479
friendly with with surrounding countries. Who the hell knows. I

1835
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,319
would much rather have those wing lunatics running that than

1836
01:49:02,359 --> 01:49:05,680
the right than the war party. They will destroy. They

1837
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,119
will do our job for us, just like just like

1838
01:49:08,199 --> 01:49:13,239
Lukuda is doing is by what. They can't even fight Hesbola.

1839
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:17,199
The only way they can do anything in Lebanon is

1840
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:20,640
to drop bombs. They can't go in, and you're not

1841
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,359
going to take over a country unless you can go in.

1842
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,479
You're not going to control a country unless you can

1843
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,960
put troops in there and you can take over the government.

1844
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:36,000
And I mean that's supposed to be illegal underworld under

1845
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:39,279
international law, which I mean, we know they don't care

1846
01:49:39,359 --> 01:49:41,960
about but they're not going to be able to do that.

1847
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,520
So what are they doing? I mean, they haven't defeated

1848
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:51,680
hamas net. Yahoo does not want the hostages returned. He

1849
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,960
doesn't want he doesn't want this peace. He doesn't want

1850
01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:02,439
October seventh investigated. And I mean there is this is

1851
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:05,800
a perfect time and it could possibly this could possibly

1852
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,800
be the decoupling. But yeah, I mean our guys need

1853
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,399
to meme, you know, meme this into existence and talk

1854
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,760
about it more. But the problem is is that people

1855
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,600
there are so many people who are really uncomfortable talking

1856
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:23,920
about this and talking about the destroy I mean destroying Israel,

1857
01:50:24,039 --> 01:50:28,000
destroying their government or having their government become something completely different,

1858
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more like global, a global homo type of government. And

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then you have people on who are quote unquote on

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our side, who are pro Israel, who are I mean,

1861
01:50:38,039 --> 01:50:39,039
who are Zionists?

1862
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:41,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, they don't know what they're talking about,

1863
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,680
they don't know what they're doing. They're they're I mean

1864
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,039
I think it's a platform. Yeah they have a platform.

1865
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But okay, so let me ask this. I think we're

1866
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probably I don't know how much more time we have

1867
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,479
but not a lot. I think it is well and

1868
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,399
I want I want you to rejoin, but I gotta

1869
01:50:59,399 --> 01:51:04,479
get this out. Those kosher right wingers that we're talking about,

1870
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they're cheering Trump, They're claiming it's them who got the victory.

1871
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So that's why a lot of like That's why I

1872
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like a lot of like white nat I mean, obviously

1873
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,600
it's bullshit, but that's that's why a lot of white

1874
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nationalists who I don't agree with. By the way, I'm

1875
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,399
with Thomas on this, even though I like a lot

1876
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of what they say. I think they're bad at politics.

1877
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,600
Is the reason I don't agree with them. They don't

1878
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,560
know how to do politics. It's not that I disagree

1879
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,720
with their platform anyway. They'll point to the Kosher right

1880
01:51:33,079 --> 01:51:36,159
celebrating Trump to the point where they try to claim

1881
01:51:36,279 --> 01:51:39,840
the victory for themselves as say, see, he's not our guy.

1882
01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:42,920
Those guys love him. If those guys love him, it

1883
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,159
must be because he's going to give them something that

1884
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:50,840
goes against our interests. I think they're wrong, but there's

1885
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,239
a point there that I think needs to be refuted,

1886
01:51:53,319 --> 01:51:55,439
and based on what Pete just said, i'd like to

1887
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,520
hear his response to that. Like, why is the Kosher

1888
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:03,760
Right celebrating Trump? Well, they just whatever you want to

1889
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say about it.

1890
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 3: They they honestly believe that they got they got him elected.

1891
01:52:09,359 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do.

1892
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,039
Speaker 3: I mean that, that's that's it. They honestly believe that

1893
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they got him elected. And maybe they did help. Maybe

1894
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,640
they put something, maybe they meme some things into into

1895
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,359
the air, and maybe there were some some things, you know,

1896
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,359
there was some kind of help there. But what have

1897
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:29,640
we seen from Trump ever since? He since for Tuesday,

1898
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it was five days ago. Today he says Pompeo and

1899
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Haley have nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 2: So funny how it flies in the face of what

1901
01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:39,239
Curtis Yarvin just wrote. I don't know if you read it.

1902
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,079
I like him way better than you two guys do.

1903
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,840
But his whole article was like, look, this is fucking

1904
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,479
Pompeo's guy. Pompeo is Trump's boy. You want to be

1905
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,520
with him. And then two days later Trump comes out

1906
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:57,079
and says Pompeo's out.

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Speaker 1: Like.

1908
01:52:55,439 --> 01:53:00,399
Speaker 3: Art is he out? Jared Kushner's out that efficient and

1909
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,039
miss that. They said that. I mean they said that

1910
01:53:03,119 --> 01:53:07,039
earlier this year, back in February, they said that if

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Trump wins, Jared Kushner is not gonna have a I

1912
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saw that.

1913
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Speaker 2: But there's people this week saying he's still around.

1914
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Speaker 4: He's using that, he's using that quote from uh, that

1915
01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:25,720
that sketchy, that sketchy Jerusalem Times article from Utica.

1916
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:25,399
Speaker 3: The one where they the one where they like just

1917
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ripped out like one couple of lines from the Litnick

1918
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:33,239
interview and didn't didn't take him in in context.

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Speaker 2: I love, I loved uh Jerusalem Times. Me and Stormy

1920
01:53:38,319 --> 01:53:40,800
it's the funniest newspaper on the planet. Me and Stormy

1921
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,159
referenced it in our Ukraine episode because uh, they were

1922
01:53:45,359 --> 01:53:49,439
literally calling deserters from Ukraine. They were literally referring to

1923
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,520
them as refugees and like war refugees. And I'm like, dude,

1924
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,319
these fucking people literally deserted the minute Russia invaded, and

1925
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,239
this paper is calling and fled to Israel, which is

1926
01:53:59,239 --> 01:54:02,560
illegal under you Cranian law to have a citizenship in Israel,

1927
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and the Jerusalem Times is calling them war refugees. I'm like,

1928
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this paper is fucking only unintentionally hilarious. Of course, of course, anyway, Pete,

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I'm sorry I interrupted you.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, and It's what I've said. It's what

1931
01:54:18,199 --> 01:54:20,920
I've been saying, you know, since like February. It's like,

1932
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you know, Maria Madelson pledges to give a bunch of money,

1933
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doesn't give it all. Yeah, then you have all of

1934
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these guys. Then you have all of these guys from

1935
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tech who are coming in there, you know, and I

1936
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mean David Sachs. David Sachs puts out on his you know,

1937
01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:41,079
and David Sachs, a Jew from South South Africa, he

1938
01:54:41,199 --> 01:54:44,560
puts out on his Twitter account yesterday a button that

1939
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,920
says neo kon and it's got a slash heart, and

1940
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,079
he's like, no neocons in this administration.

1941
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,359
Speaker 4: I mean, what is a neo kon?

1942
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:54,239
Speaker 1: What is it really?

1943
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:59,319
Speaker 3: Neo konski? I mean, it's what Michael Jones says, is

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neo konsk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Israeli firsts Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he So what I've been saying is if the

1947
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if guys like Musk, if the tech guys, if the

1948
01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:18,279
little tech guys are the ones who have more, they're

1949
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the ones who are whispering in Trump's ear, They're the

1950
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ones who are influencing Trump, Moore, then we have a

1951
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:28,640
shot because if exactly listening to. If he starts listening

1952
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:34,039
to the people around him who may have Israeli sympathies

1953
01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:37,439
or who are Zionists, then we you know, we don't.

1954
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,880
But so far, and it we're only five days into

1955
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:45,279
this thing, he's basically rejecting all of these people. The

1956
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:49,319
I don't know enough about his chief of staff, Susie Wiles.

1957
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I mean, I know her dad was a Christian, Pat

1958
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,640
summer Ale, you know, because I grew up. I grew

1959
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up watching the Giants and he was like the announcer

1960
01:55:59,279 --> 01:56:01,479
for the for the New York Giants, So I know

1961
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:02,479
who Pat summerl is.

1962
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Speaker 1: He was.

1963
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,279
Speaker 3: He was a Christian. I don't know what her sympathies

1964
01:56:06,359 --> 01:56:11,119
are towards towards Israel. I'm sure if I really tried to,

1965
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:15,880
you know, dig deep into it. But so far, it

1966
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,920
looks like the the neo cons are getting pushed out.

1967
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,039
And if the neo cons get pushed out and you

1968
01:56:22,079 --> 01:56:28,039
get people like you start naming like people who appear

1969
01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:31,359
on Judge Knapp's show, start you know, you start getting

1970
01:56:31,399 --> 01:56:35,520
like Ambassador Freeman or Ambassador the Jeffrey Sachs, or you

1971
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:41,600
start getting meher Scheimer. If you start getting you know McGregor.

1972
01:56:42,279 --> 01:56:45,920
If these names start popping up as advisors and things

1973
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,159
like that, well, I mean, we we have a chance.

1974
01:56:49,359 --> 01:56:53,239
It's just a matter of the first time around, it

1975
01:56:53,319 --> 01:56:57,760
seemed like Trump decided made his decisions on personnel by

1976
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,880
the last person who whispered in his ear. So you

1977
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,079
basically you who's whispering in his ear?

1978
01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:04,319
Speaker 1: Right?

1979
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:08,319
Speaker 3: Now, that's the only question. And as far as these

1980
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:11,439
you know, the kosher right thinking that they got him elected,

1981
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:13,640
go ahead and think that.

1982
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, let him.

1983
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine, I'm fine with people being delusion.

1984
01:57:18,359 --> 01:57:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about waiting for.

1985
01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:27,039
Speaker 2: But I want you guys to keep going. I just

1986
01:57:27,079 --> 01:57:30,640
want to throw out here real quick. Pete mentioned Miriam

1987
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,119
Adelson pledging however much money, and she didn't give all that.

1988
01:57:35,119 --> 01:57:36,920
A lot of people point to that. A lot of

1989
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,239
people point to that to say, oh, look, Trump is

1990
01:57:39,279 --> 01:57:41,800
completely owned by the Jews. That's what I fucking see

1991
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:47,439
all the time. He's completely owned by the jew Well,

1992
01:57:47,439 --> 01:57:51,920
hang on, Elon. Elon Musk's pack gave like one hundred

1993
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,800
million dollars more than the Alsens did, so I don't

1994
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:55,800
even really want to hear.

1995
01:58:00,039 --> 01:58:03,199
Speaker 4: Tim Mellan. Tim Mellon donated one hundred and seventy million

1996
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,279
as a single individual. How come like that's never talked

1997
01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:11,520
about anywhere nobody until like a week ago.

1998
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:16,079
Speaker 3: But I mean, like then we can have people, and

1999
01:58:16,079 --> 01:58:18,119
then we can have people like on the Kosher right

2000
01:58:18,359 --> 01:58:21,760
or you know, just the complete lunatics who believe that

2001
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,760
the Jews control everything that they're you know that we're

2002
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:29,359
basically everything is Jewish, Jewish puppetry, including you know, Elon

2003
01:58:29,479 --> 01:58:30,720
must buy on Twitter or whatever.

2004
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:33,039
Speaker 4: Every time I see it now.

2005
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the but you know, they'll just say, oh, you

2006
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,439
know that Tim Mellon is, oh, look at his family,

2007
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,079
his you know, he he had relatives that funded the

2008
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:50,560
whole LSD experiments in the sixties and things like that.

2009
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:56,000
It's like every fucking family has, you know. It almost

2010
01:58:56,039 --> 01:58:58,079
seems like Tim Mellon is like the black sheep of

2011
01:58:58,159 --> 01:59:00,439
the family because he doesn't have anything with that.

2012
01:59:01,079 --> 01:59:03,199
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I mean, if you were a WASP guy,

2013
01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:08,439
a young man like you went into intelligence, that that

2014
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:10,159
was it. You Like, you did your you did your

2015
01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:15,119
state in the military, either army or Navy, or you know,

2016
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:17,359
if you're lonely, you did Marines, and then you went

2017
01:59:17,359 --> 01:59:22,399
into intelligence. Like my granddad, same exact thing. Did Marines

2018
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:27,720
did the oss right? Uh, his son did the exact

2019
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,279
same thing.

2020
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Speaker 1: Right.

2021
01:59:29,359 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 4: All of the other families that you know they were

2022
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,640
associated with did the exact same thing. Everything from like

2023
01:59:37,279 --> 01:59:42,560
families what my great grand my great granddad did that

2024
01:59:43,159 --> 01:59:46,520
great granddad went into after a stint in the military,

2025
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:55,479
went into diplomacy. Granddad granddad was the guy that not

2026
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,760
to dogs myself. He's the guy that had the heart attack.

2027
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he yeah.

2028
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 4: We we go me and the we go way back.

2029
02:00:11,279 --> 02:00:13,560
But to what you were saying about the factions that

2030
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,239
are in or the liver, I wouldn't call them like

2031
02:00:16,359 --> 02:00:20,479
levers of power. They kind of their support structures. You

2032
02:00:20,479 --> 02:00:26,000
have the neocons, the City of London, the left, and

2033
02:00:26,279 --> 02:00:30,720
those are pretty much the factions of power outside of

2034
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:35,359
outside of us because now apparently our ideas go a

2035
02:00:35,359 --> 02:00:38,119
lot farther than anybody on our side really gives us.

2036
02:00:38,359 --> 02:00:41,920
This is something we're terrible at taking credit for our

2037
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:48,279
own victories. Like you have the smartest, wealthiest, most dynamic

2038
02:00:48,319 --> 02:00:56,800
individuals in the country looking to our sphere for i mean,

2039
02:00:57,319 --> 02:01:01,960
for guidance, like we we are the they're outsourcing their

2040
02:01:02,039 --> 02:01:05,520
thinking they've found people that they trust, right, and they're like,

2041
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,079
all right, well give me the synopsis on the X.

2042
02:01:09,159 --> 02:01:13,680
And we still act like we're losers, Like we still

2043
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:16,680
act like, you know, we we haven't gotten out of

2044
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,479
like we've got beaten up so bad in twenty seventeen,

2045
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:23,199
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, right like the hard suppression. We

2046
02:01:23,239 --> 02:01:27,760
still go around Twitter like we're lepers, Like our guy

2047
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:32,760
owns the thing. Now, we're still pointing out the shed.

2048
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 3: I pointed out on an old Glory Club live stream

2049
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:39,199
that like every time that Elon had in the past

2050
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,640
year or year and a half has had to you know,

2051
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:48,760
like to go to Auschwitz. As soon as he's done

2052
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:53,239
with that, the very first tweet is always something signaling

2053
02:01:53,279 --> 02:01:55,399
to our side, like he'll put out his sweet about

2054
02:01:55,439 --> 02:02:00,199
like white replacement or something like that. And yeah, I

2055
02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:03,119
mentioned that, and I said he's signaling to us, and

2056
02:02:03,159 --> 02:02:06,119
someone's like, oh, that's clown thinking. I'm like, no, you're

2057
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:09,560
a fucking loser. You're a politics.

2058
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 2: Elon knows how to play the game and some people

2059
02:02:12,079 --> 02:02:12,479
just don't.

2060
02:02:12,479 --> 02:02:14,279
Speaker 4: Aren't even the same thing, the same thing with the

2061
02:02:14,359 --> 02:02:18,640
same thing with Trump. What was Bill Clinton's specialty anybody

2062
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,279
that dealt with Bill Clinton said, Bill Clinton would sit

2063
02:02:21,319 --> 02:02:22,760
down and talk to you like you were the most

2064
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:26,600
interesting person in the world. He was listening, right, And

2065
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,399
everybody thought after they went in to talk to Bill

2066
02:02:29,399 --> 02:02:31,359
Clinton that Bill Clinton agreed with them and that Bill

2067
02:02:31,399 --> 02:02:34,800
Clinton was on their side. And now you look at

2068
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,239
what Trump's doing as soon as he got into power,

2069
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,359
and he didn't want he didn't want to fight with

2070
02:02:40,399 --> 02:02:44,920
the neo cons. Oh yeah, sure, come on stage as

2071
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,960
soon as he wins the election. Yeah, you guys aren't

2072
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,520
going to be no. Sorry, you think he.

2073
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,359
Speaker 2: Forgets what John Bolton did to him?

2074
02:02:51,399 --> 02:02:54,439
Speaker 4: Like, well, do you know what? You know what Mike

2075
02:02:54,479 --> 02:02:56,439
Pump When everybody's trying to tell me that Mike.

2076
02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:58,439
Speaker 3: Maybe and Yahoo did to him?

2077
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I was. He was in the back

2078
02:03:00,319 --> 02:03:01,000
of my mind too.

2079
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am from my little theory that you know,

2080
02:03:05,119 --> 02:03:07,880
I think I you know, started like screaming about in

2081
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,359
the astral chat that the day after it happened. Is

2082
02:03:11,399 --> 02:03:14,159
that bibing that and Yahoo tried to kill Trump at Pennsylvania?

2083
02:03:15,319 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 1: All right?

2084
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 4: And who was?

2085
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:18,319
Speaker 2: Who was?

2086
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,159
Speaker 4: Who are the people that that people are pointing to now,

2087
02:03:21,239 --> 02:03:25,479
Department of Homeland Security? Right, they took over the Secret

2088
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:29,199
Service that day. Right, they had more DHS people than

2089
02:03:29,239 --> 02:03:32,039
there were Secret Service people. All of the dedicated Secret

2090
02:03:32,079 --> 02:03:36,640
Service people went over to go help with missus, you know,

2091
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:41,680
Madam President, Doctor Joe Biden, and it was all DHS

2092
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,680
people on the ground. So what did Cynthia McKinney tell

2093
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:49,800
us about what DHS was? Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney

2094
02:03:50,079 --> 02:03:54,239
on the house floor were famous for two things. Well,

2095
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,680
the tag team between the two of them were famous

2096
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:01,119
for two things. Right. Cynthia's said, Israel did nine to

2097
02:04:01,119 --> 02:04:09,079
eleven in fact, and she said that the I can't

2098
02:04:09,079 --> 02:04:12,319
remember how she described them, but basically, the Zionists like

2099
02:04:12,359 --> 02:04:18,359
the dual citizen class, right that we're responsible that played

2100
02:04:18,359 --> 02:04:20,840
a part in nine to eleven. We're trying to set

2101
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:25,560
up homeland security to basically embed them, basically embed the

2102
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:29,680
neo cons into every aspect of the intelligence z apparatus,

2103
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,159
the military apparatus, and the law enforced nappers so you

2104
02:04:32,199 --> 02:04:35,960
couldn't tear them out, right, they want, and DHS does that.

2105
02:04:36,359 --> 02:04:41,159
If you look at DHS's organization chart, they have offices

2106
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:47,840
in everything from the NSA to US Marshals to FBI

2107
02:04:48,479 --> 02:04:55,439
to CIA, TODIA, the Defense Intelligence. They're literally embedded everywhere. Right,

2108
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:59,760
she was one hundred percent right. Department of Homeland Security

2109
02:05:00,199 --> 02:05:02,800
was the same fucking guys that did Project Movement, the

2110
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,199
same dual citizens that gave you nine to eleven. Right,

2111
02:05:05,239 --> 02:05:09,720
Project American Century guys set up Department Homeland Security to

2112
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:14,079
embed these embed Zionists inside the inside the intelligence and

2113
02:05:14,159 --> 02:05:17,520
law enforcement apparatus with the hub so they can coordinate

2114
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:20,039
all these things. Before it was like, oh, we got

2115
02:05:20,079 --> 02:05:21,399
to go talk to you know, we got to go

2116
02:05:21,439 --> 02:05:23,800
meet at the wherever the synagogue's eight and wherever they

2117
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:28,479
hang out, right, sorry, they you know, then they would

2118
02:05:28,479 --> 02:05:30,119
have to like meet and then they'd have to coordinate.

2119
02:05:30,119 --> 02:05:31,920
Like all right, So you tell your cousin who works

2120
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:35,399
at uh, you know, CIA, and you tell your cousin like, no,

2121
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:38,920
DHS gave them a hub. They had an office now

2122
02:05:39,159 --> 02:05:43,399
right now they whatever the central hub is is where

2123
02:05:43,439 --> 02:05:45,760
the command structure is, right, is where the power is

2124
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:49,079
in any organization. We've got a corporation, Look at you know,

2125
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:51,520
government where you know, look at that. Look at the

2126
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,600
thing that has spokes going into everything, whatever has the

2127
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,479
most spokes going out and other things is the thing

2128
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:02,479
that has the power, right, and that's what DHS is.

2129
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,000
DHS was all over the fucking Trump assassination attempt. And

2130
02:06:06,039 --> 02:06:10,079
you know who was the only person that didn't call

2131
02:06:10,119 --> 02:06:14,920
Trump after he got assassinated. Fucking President of Palestine. Nobody

2132
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:20,039
even knows that motherfucker exists. He called Trump after he

2133
02:06:20,079 --> 02:06:24,359
got it, after the assassination. BB NETANYAHUO did not. All Right,

2134
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,720
anybody that's listening probably thinks this is fucking crazy. Just

2135
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,119
type into whatever search browser. You can even use the

2136
02:06:30,119 --> 02:06:35,000
shitty ones like Google, whatever, Donald Trump. The word quote

2137
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,960
Benjamin nettan Yahoo. The very first thing that pop up,

2138
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,359
Actually the first three or four articles will be a

2139
02:06:42,479 --> 02:06:47,680
quote from Trump. He find me Trump swearing on TV

2140
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:53,000
good luck. He never does that. He never swears. Fucking

2141
02:06:54,199 --> 02:06:58,560
Kamala Harris wears more than Donald Trump does. Fucking Joe

2142
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,479
Biden swears more than Donald Trump does. And Donald Trump,

2143
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:07,560
on an interview with PBS sixty minutes, said like that.

2144
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:11,800
For some reason, the presenter CB of sixty minutes decides

2145
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,680
to ask a guy who's not president anymore what his

2146
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:17,760
relationship is with a foreign leader that currently is president,

2147
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,279
which makes no sense, but like, what's your relationship with

2148
02:07:20,319 --> 02:07:24,439
Benjaminette Yahoo Da da d D his word Trump's words exactly,

2149
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:30,439
fuck him. Fuck that guy. He stabbed me in the back.

2150
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:34,960
We had a deal. I did everything for Israel, and

2151
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,279
he stabbed me in the back. He was the first person.

2152
02:07:39,079 --> 02:07:43,439
All right, Like we're talking like peak fraud the day

2153
02:07:43,479 --> 02:07:47,600
after the election, like the like you still had mail

2154
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:52,319
in ballots, like the chaos was, like nobody in America

2155
02:07:52,399 --> 02:07:57,399
really knew who was president the day after twenty twenty.

2156
02:07:58,199 --> 02:08:02,520
But Benjaminette Yaho called Joe by publicly, right, because that

2157
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:05,640
basically is the signal, that's the endorsement that this is

2158
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,840
the this is the guy that we the foreign country

2159
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:13,520
is recognizing as president. Right, he called Benja, he called

2160
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:18,920
Joe Biden first to congratulate him. Right, Because hey, whatever

2161
02:08:19,039 --> 02:08:23,039
Ryan Dawson proves rather conclusively to anybody's paying attention, there

2162
02:08:23,079 --> 02:08:29,600
wasn't a Hunter Biden laptop. There was three Hunter Biden laptops. Three, right,

2163
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,119
so we know Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump got one

2164
02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:34,960
where the other two go. Well, according to Hunter Biden

2165
02:08:35,279 --> 02:08:40,039
on video, when he's in bed with his fucking his

2166
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:47,079
brother's widow, you know, smoking crack. Well, some Ukrainian hookers

2167
02:08:47,119 --> 02:08:50,640
stole the other two in Las Vegas. Where do you

2168
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:54,680
think those laptops ended up? Well, So you got your

2169
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:56,039
guy that you made a deal with.

2170
02:08:56,119 --> 02:08:58,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean in that video you're talking about,

2171
02:08:58,279 --> 02:09:04,079
Hunter explicitly says I have been caught in sexual blackmail.

2172
02:09:04,279 --> 02:09:07,239
Speaker 4: That is what he literally says that in the video.

2173
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:12,159
Yes he yes, I forgot about that. Yes he does,

2174
02:09:12,199 --> 02:09:14,720
he does say that. So who do you?

2175
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:15,479
Speaker 1: Who do you?

2176
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 4: If you're Benjamin and Yaho, you got your two different

2177
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,960
horses you can run on. You got to deal with

2178
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,960
this guy. You think you got a good relationship your son,

2179
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:25,359
and you know his son in law is your mole,

2180
02:09:26,039 --> 02:09:30,000
you know, like you got a good setup, but you

2181
02:09:30,039 --> 02:09:31,840
still have to be nice to him. And it's a deal,

2182
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:33,800
Like it's two parts, like I gotta do something for you, you

2183
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,319
gotta do something for me. Or you have this guy

2184
02:09:36,399 --> 02:09:40,880
whose entire life you can ruin named Joe Biden, Right,

2185
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:45,319
you have evidence of his corruption like all of that.

2186
02:09:45,479 --> 02:09:47,399
The whole family could go to jail, along with most

2187
02:09:47,439 --> 02:09:50,399
of the people in Washington, which is good because now

2188
02:09:50,439 --> 02:09:53,079
they're accomplices and now they have to do this. And

2189
02:09:54,279 --> 02:09:57,079
in this instance, unlike Donald Trump. You own the media,

2190
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:00,199
so that story whatever, you know that that's going to

2191
02:10:00,239 --> 02:10:02,880
get around, right, So that's much more effective. You're going

2192
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:07,920
to back that horse. Because where is Benjamin Nett election?

2193
02:10:08,439 --> 02:10:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the reason the prison.

2194
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:14,199
Speaker 4: Is where he's at. That's where bb net Yaho is

2195
02:10:14,359 --> 02:10:17,199
at the time of twenty twenty election. Right, the criminal

2196
02:10:17,239 --> 02:10:20,800
proceeding against Benjamin et Yahoo is coming to an end.

2197
02:10:21,479 --> 02:10:25,399
Everybody knows that the trial that the Benjamin Noah who

2198
02:10:25,479 --> 02:10:29,920
court case, right the the criminal case got put on

2199
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:34,000
hold when he got elected. What got put on hold,

2200
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:39,640
particularly the case is over. It was sentencing that got

2201
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:45,600
put on hold. Sentencing. So that means this guy if

2202
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:50,159
he steps out of power because right now, because he

2203
02:10:50,359 --> 02:10:53,000
just basically let all those hostages die because a surprise,

2204
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:55,800
we actually don't care about the hostages. We just want

2205
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:57,880
a bunch of land and we want to you know,

2206
02:10:58,039 --> 02:11:00,800
we're going to a steal all of God and the

2207
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:02,880
West Bank. Then we're going to go start a bunch

2208
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,520
of wards their neighbors. Then we're gonna get America to

2209
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:09,720
come and wipe out Lebanon and Iran in one fell swoop,

2210
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,239
and they will make greater Israel for us.

2211
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:13,279
Speaker 3: I did it.

2212
02:11:13,399 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm the greatest. You can't be mad about all that

2213
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:19,159
criminal shit that I just got convicted of, and you

2214
02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:23,880
don't want to send me to jail anymore, right, Or

2215
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:27,039
you can let all those hostages die and you can

2216
02:11:27,079 --> 02:11:31,880
have less than eleven percent approval rating. Right, Benjamin and

2217
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:34,000
Yao is the most hated man in Israel right now.

2218
02:11:34,359 --> 02:11:37,720
Lacud has no constituency. Like Thomas and I talked briefly

2219
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:41,279
on Pete's election livestream with the old Glory Clubs, there

2220
02:11:41,359 --> 02:11:47,039
is no native constituency for Lacud anymore. Benjamin and Yahouse

2221
02:11:47,159 --> 02:11:51,279
takes one step out of office and he's in prison.

2222
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:55,960
His son's a faggot that lives in Miami. Right, he

2223
02:11:56,039 --> 02:11:59,920
has no legacy. It's over with. Everything that he built

2224
02:12:00,039 --> 02:12:02,319
will be torn down and he will be thrown in

2225
02:12:02,359 --> 02:12:08,479
a box and forgotten about until he dies unless he

2226
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:15,000
starts a war. Donald Trump is a guy that you

2227
02:12:15,119 --> 02:12:19,159
cannot let in the White House. Then if Donald Trump

2228
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:21,319
gets in the White House after you stabbed him in

2229
02:12:21,359 --> 02:12:25,920
the back, you are not getting your war. And as

2230
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:29,800
Thomas laid out the conflict in Ukraine again, anybody that

2231
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:35,079
is listening, please go check out Thomas's and Pete's conversations

2232
02:12:35,119 --> 02:12:36,960
on the war in Syria and what the war in

2233
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:40,640
Syria is actually about, right, and with a conflict in

2234
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:46,560
Ukraine and Russia is actually about because Donald Trumps stopping

2235
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:48,800
the war in Ukraine tells you exactly what he's gonna

2236
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,239
do with the war, and I ran right, he understands

2237
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:55,479
what the actual game is. So if he doesn't want

2238
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,000
war in Russia and Ukraine, he doesn't want war in Iran.

2239
02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:01,640
It's the same conflict. So that means Benjamin et Yaho

2240
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:03,159
was in between a rock and a hard place.

2241
02:13:03,199 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 3: He is fucked.

2242
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:08,960
Speaker 4: And at the same time I find it funny, which

2243
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:11,680
is why I agree with Pete said. You asked Pete

2244
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,079
to stack rank the targets for you. Who does the

2245
02:13:15,159 --> 02:13:18,279
right hit first? Do we hit the neocons? Do we

2246
02:13:18,359 --> 02:13:20,760
hit the finance people in the city of London? Do

2247
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,279
we hit the left? In which order do we attack

2248
02:13:23,319 --> 02:13:26,600
these people? And I agree with Pete's assessment has to

2249
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:27,439
be the neocons?

2250
02:13:28,319 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 1: What do they do?

2251
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:33,079
Speaker 4: What did they do? What did they do in nineteen sixteen,

2252
02:13:33,319 --> 02:13:37,520
or sorry, in nineteen fifteen, what did they do in

2253
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:43,359
nineteen forty? Right? How come we had the most powerful

2254
02:13:43,399 --> 02:13:47,399
man in the United States. We had the chairman of GM,

2255
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:51,439
Chairman of Ford, the DuPont family, the Morgan family all right,

2256
02:13:51,479 --> 02:13:54,840
the Rockefeller family, the head of the Republican Party, Father Cochlan,

2257
02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:57,800
and all the Catholics. Right, we had Hughey p Long

2258
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:00,159
and all the Southern Democrats. We had the chairman the

2259
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:03,239
fucking Democratic Party and the borner president. They're all on

2260
02:14:03,319 --> 02:14:05,640
the same team. How do you break that up? How

2261
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,840
do you stop that? A war? That's how you stop it.

2262
02:14:10,239 --> 02:14:12,439
And that's the only thing that I'll save them now

2263
02:14:13,439 --> 02:14:16,520
is a war. The reason I I grabbed a note powder,

2264
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:17,920
you guys were talking, because I wanted to make sure

2265
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:20,039
I could hit these, hit these all because the city

2266
02:14:20,039 --> 02:14:22,119
of London, what Pete was talking about. That's set up

2267
02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:24,760
that they have, that you know has They've basically been

2268
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:30,479
vamporizing the United States, you know, citizenry for sixty years

2269
02:14:30,479 --> 02:14:34,239
to support literally the American citizen has ground up into

2270
02:14:34,239 --> 02:14:37,800
a fine paste, mixed with a viscous fluid and turned

2271
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:42,560
into an oil to grease the wheels of global capitalism.

2272
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:47,960
Globalism writ large that's coming to an end. The sovereign

2273
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:51,439
debt collapse like I'm sorry what Pete was talking about.

2274
02:14:51,439 --> 02:14:55,439
With the currencies. If a currency moves three cents in

2275
02:14:55,520 --> 02:15:02,560
a year, that is a huge fucking deal. Right, they

2276
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:07,279
don't lose a quarter of their value in six months.

2277
02:15:08,439 --> 02:15:10,800
Right at the same time that the bond market's collapsing,

2278
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:16,199
they've basically been using hypothecated fake money. I'm not going

2279
02:15:16,239 --> 02:15:19,680
to go into how they do it, but they use

2280
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,079
they print a bunch of fake money through a bunch

2281
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:25,479
of fake debt offshore federal reserves not even in control.

2282
02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:28,319
This don't have any fucking saying it, and they use

2283
02:15:28,399 --> 02:15:32,640
that debt to smush the futures contracts and suppress the

2284
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:38,800
price of commodities. Right, who produces the commodities, commodity producing nations,

2285
02:15:39,439 --> 02:15:42,439
that's what they do, right, So you can basically thumb

2286
02:15:42,479 --> 02:15:45,880
the whole Third world down extract all their resources with

2287
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:50,560
these fake dollars. That's breaking right the left. The left

2288
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:52,920
is in tatters. The left is trying to go be

2289
02:15:53,039 --> 02:15:56,079
nice to us. So Pete is one hundred percent right

2290
02:15:56,119 --> 02:15:58,399
on that order of attack. And the reason that we're

2291
02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:03,840
gonna win is because when all those fucking Jews were like, yes,

2292
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:06,600
this is the media landscape, we controlled the media landscape.

2293
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:10,239
It is a landscape. It's territory. It's the most important territory.

2294
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:14,560
The digital landscape is the new media landscape. It is

2295
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:17,800
the high ground. It's the most important place. We control

2296
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:18,760
all the good territory.

2297
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:26,199
Speaker 2: Now, I agree, I agree. I gotta get going, Pete,

2298
02:16:26,239 --> 02:16:27,760
I want. I'll give you the last word. If you

2299
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:28,039
have a.

2300
02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 4: Response, please, I talked for Bray too long.

2301
02:16:30,439 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh it was good though, I agree with it all.

2302
02:16:33,239 --> 02:16:35,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm looking at an article from yesterday and it

2303
02:16:35,639 --> 02:16:40,280
says that the fallout over net and Yahoo sacking.

2304
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:42,200
Speaker 2: Galan, Yeah, I'm glad that.

2305
02:16:43,319 --> 02:16:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Israel is only projected to secure twenty four seats,

2306
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:52,000
so basically, in one hundred and twenty seat canesse it,

2307
02:16:52,639 --> 02:16:56,680
they're looking at just having forty nine seats. If elections

2308
02:16:56,680 --> 02:17:00,600
were held today, the opposition block is sixty one seats.

2309
02:17:01,479 --> 02:17:04,479
I need to find out. The opposition parties, by contrast,

2310
02:17:04,479 --> 02:17:08,399
appear to beginning momentum. The National Unity Party led by

2311
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:12,520
Bernie Gantz, Yeah, by Benny Gantz, and you know so

2312
02:17:14,479 --> 02:17:18,200
that yeah, who challenges the extremists, the Religious Zionism Party,

2313
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:25,479
the even extremists. They appear to be struggling. So it.

2314
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:31,360
It appears that the quote unquote right in Israel is

2315
02:17:31,399 --> 02:17:34,920
falling apart. And that's the best thing that can happen

2316
02:17:35,479 --> 02:17:40,120
for us because it takes war off the table. And

2317
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:43,719
it also it's like a big fuck you to the

2318
02:17:43,719 --> 02:17:48,319
city of London, and it just it pushes Israel that

2319
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:57,319
much closer closer to becoming just another gigantic, global home, global,

2320
02:17:57,440 --> 02:18:04,799
homogeneous state where you know, it's it's racist if we

2321
02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:07,200
don't let these people, and it's racist if we don't

2322
02:18:07,239 --> 02:18:10,159
make them citizens. It's racist if we don't let them

2323
02:18:10,239 --> 02:18:14,879
have the full rights of every Israeli And that is

2324
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:18,840
what that Yeah, that is eventually what's going to be.

2325
02:18:19,239 --> 02:18:21,399
I think it's going to be the downfall of Israel,

2326
02:18:21,799 --> 02:18:25,440
not that Israel will disappear, because we don't want Israel

2327
02:18:25,479 --> 02:18:28,159
to disappear. We want them to become something else, because

2328
02:18:28,159 --> 02:18:32,200
we want Jews to have some place to go when

2329
02:18:34,719 --> 02:18:38,360
more people start noticing and noticing and noticing and noticing,

2330
02:18:38,479 --> 02:18:42,040
and they're just going to not whenever that happens, they

2331
02:18:42,159 --> 02:18:45,200
are tempted. At least now they have a place to go.

2332
02:18:47,159 --> 02:18:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the problem with that is they don't want

2333
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:53,879
to go there. Yaki points this out. He says, Zionism

2334
02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:56,600
is a huge sigh up because nobody fucking wants to

2335
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:59,280
go to Israel. They want to come to America. And

2336
02:18:59,319 --> 02:19:02,200
when they started fleeing Eastern Europe and all those places,

2337
02:19:02,559 --> 02:19:05,440
they didn't go to Israel. They came to America.

2338
02:19:06,239 --> 02:19:09,920
Speaker 3: Well that changed that, that changed over the over the decades.

2339
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:12,479
A lot of people like to a lot of Jews

2340
02:19:12,559 --> 02:19:15,680
like to go to Israel. They like to have that out.

2341
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:16,440
They want to.

2342
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeahs an out.

2343
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 4: He was talking about specific if you take it away.

2344
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:25,399
Speaker 3: Then they stayed, and then then they're going there a state.

2345
02:19:25,600 --> 02:19:29,799
Speaker 4: How do they behave? How do they behave? Because David

2346
02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:33,719
Sachs I think Yaki was right about race. Not a

2347
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:35,000
lot of people want to talk about that.

2348
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 2: That's a major whole nother conversation.

2349
02:19:38,319 --> 02:19:41,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I mean, do you think David Sachs

2350
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:46,680
is thinking like a Jew? Do you think Howard Litnik

2351
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:51,079
is thinking like a Jew? They just moved for thought

2352
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:52,719
like that we can all think about because I mean

2353
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:58,440
they seem to be okay. Like David Sachs must know

2354
02:19:58,520 --> 02:20:00,479
that if he gets his policy wish is, the state

2355
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:03,639
of Israel could not exist. There's a chance it could

2356
02:20:03,639 --> 02:20:06,319
not exist because he doesn't know all the intricacies that

2357
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:09,639
we're talking about, right, So all he knows is that

2358
02:20:09,639 --> 02:20:12,200
they're at war with literally they started a war with

2359
02:20:12,239 --> 02:20:16,680
all of their neighbors, right, and that seven countries want

2360
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:20,239
to come kill him, and he's okay with the people

2361
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:23,399
that want to rush in and send us people the

2362
02:20:23,440 --> 02:20:26,040
only people that like, frankly, we are the only people

2363
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:30,360
that could save Israel and the only people that would

2364
02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:34,200
want that to happen. David Sachs drummed out of government,

2365
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:38,079
So like, where is this guy's head at?

2366
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to arbitrarily cut the conversation off,

2367
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:47,079
but I gotta get going fame. This was far more

2368
02:20:47,159 --> 02:20:51,159
fruitful than I expected, because I didn't think we'd be able.

2369
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 3: To get what's that book, Hitler Democrat by Leon de Grell.

2370
02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:02,280
It's rare. Buddy of mine is doing Simon stock copies

2371
02:21:02,319 --> 02:21:03,479
of it.

2372
02:21:03,479 --> 02:21:08,559
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, I know nothing about that book. I

2373
02:21:08,559 --> 02:21:09,559
know who Leander Grell is.

2374
02:21:09,639 --> 02:21:09,799
Speaker 1: Though.

2375
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:15,000
Speaker 2: By so we got to Stormy Week, we got to

2376
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:17,200
a lot more than I expected us to be covered

2377
02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:20,479
almost every point I wanted to. But there's a lot

2378
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:22,239
more to talk about. So I hope you guys are

2379
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:26,239
willing to come back and this is crazy. Absolutely yeah,

2380
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:27,840
happy to have you on for the first time.

2381
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:32,239
Speaker 4: Just think, no Jewish kingdom has lasted more than eighty years,

2382
02:21:33,000 --> 02:26:18,840
what seventy six years now ing U S. S.