Speaker 1: Scrooge.
Speaker 2: Hush, All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Today.
We're going to do something a little different, which I
hope is uh maybe going to take the show in
a new different direction. I've got some stuff in the
works here today. I have three guests. I've never had
a round table panel like this, but I hope we
get several more going. And I'm honored to be joined
with Thomas seven seven and Pete Kenones. I also have
my sort of co host. I think of him as
like a co host, even though he's only been on
here one time. Stormy Waters, me and here have been
cooking up quite a lot of content for the near future,
and we've been having some discussions on you know, what,
what does the Trump presidency mean for the right wing?
Where's the right wing at now? And where are we
going to go, what are we gonna do, what is
it going to look like, how is it going to change?
But also where's it been, where's it coming from? So
we're trying to work out a series of roundtable discussions
like this, and we decided that the perfect person to
start this all off with would be Thomas Triple seven.
So I'm honored and proud and glad to have you here.
Thomas and Pete as well. Thank you guys both for
coming on.
Speaker 1: Say hello, oh yeah, thanks for hosting you. Ian, Yeah,
thanks Mike, thanks for the er boys. Happy to be here.
Speaker 2: I was telling Pete, I've been following his content for
quite a long time. It feels like we're on the
same trajectory. And actually today's episode was inspired by a
conversation that Thomas and Peter had. They've been having a
series of conversations on Peter's Peter's platforms YouTube where I
catch it, and you know, there's a lot of food
for thought there, there's a lot of fodder for discussion
and Tom I caught something Thomas said once that Thomas,
I don't know if you've elaborated on this elsewhere, but
in the episode on Yaki that you did with Pete,
you guys talked about Spangler and Yaki a lot. You
said something to the effect of there hasn't really been
a right wing since nineteen forty five. And not only
did you say that, but you said something like, there
can't be a right wing since nineteen forty five. But
in that episode in particular, you didn't elaborate on that.
But I'm not sure what you mean by that, but
I think that's a really good place to start this
conversation we want to have here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a subject of the manuscript I'm
working on now. There's a couple of things. I mean,
there's a couple of things that underli that, okay, Like,
first and foremost, the rose ofvel administration. It was as
revolutionary as the Third Right and as the Soviet Union,
like the government that you know, conquered the the the
political structure of the Soviet Union. I mean, yeah, it
wasn't revolutionary in the sense that there's some sort of
violent overthrow of the extant order or something. But it
was a total restructuring of government, okay. And what came
within the purview of of federal mandate, what was considered appropriate,
you know, ethically, philosophically, practically in terms of you know, uh,
federal authority. This this represented a total kind of change
in perspective, okay. You know, like the regime you would
wonder today it's not like the legacy government of George
Washington or something, Okay, it's it's it's the New Deal regime.
I mean, there's been changes to it. You know, like
the Reagan administration, the deregulated a whole bunch of things. Uh,
you know, and uh, the financialization of the economy. I mean,
obviously that changes things. But the core of it, and
it's most importantly for purposes of this discussion, and we
just asked me the core of it. It's ethical rationale,
it's it's kind of civic narrative, it's political theology like
that that is one hundred percent derivative of the New
Deal Revolution. Now what the American right wing was after
the War between the States. You know, despite Wilson being
held out as a big liberal, like he wasn't in
the contemporary sense. He was a segregationist. He had he
had a lot of love for lost Cause. His historians,
it was Wilson that commissioned all these Confederate monuments because
it's Shelby Foot called the agreement you know, in the
decades after worked in the States, was we we honor
each other's wordad and like we recognize like the valor
and honor of each other's you know, politics and and
and and fallen servicemen, you know, and Wilson's Wilsonian like nationalism,
like yeah, I mean, that's that's very much like a
post a post seventeen eighty nine kind of conservatism, which
is itself like liberal and absolute terms. But you know,
it wasn't. It wasn't like progressive and in terms of
like the social engineering regime that we think of it, see,
it basically had even like the American left, like other
than you know, true radicals, was fairly conservative and fairly
right wing in absolute terms, like the American right was
exemplified by guys like Charles Lindbergh, like Father Coughlin, like
Robert Taft. It was. It was they believed in Hamiltonian protectionism,
like high protectionism, national economics. They were basically white nationalists,
you know, not in some like hardest fuck way, but
you know they they believed that immigration had to be
restricted according to the national origins prince people. You know.
They they were opposed to outside of the mineral doctrines, parameters.
They were opposed of foreign intervention. You know. It was
like the Republicans that became like the America First Party. Okay, now,
Roosevelt's whole Roosevelt's whole interest in the Second World War
and and and more more probably more relevant like the
ideologues within his administration. Like a lot of people look
at Roosevelt, it's just some like big liberal and oh
but his administration was also compromised by Stalinists or something.
That's not the way that that's true, But that's not
the way to look at it. It was animated by
this whole ideology of anti fascism, which, like Paul Godfred
points out, that's an ideology in to itself. Okay, Like, now,
make no mistake, like the US government like profited tremendously
from World War Two. I'm talking like long term, like
war itself is bad for business. That's like economic rationales
for war are still that's not why wars happened. They
don't happen so people can make money. But in absolute terms,
I mean America became a superpower because it destroyed Europe
in Japan. You know, it wasn't America's Roosevelt War wasn't
like Churchill's War. It wasn't like this suicidal, like incomprehensively
irrational mission that that that was undertaken because like Roosevelt
was some degenerator, because he was just compromised. So I
mean there was like a strategic logic to it if
you can extricate any ethical judgments of you know, historical nature,
you know, like but you know, the whole the animating
principle of it was basically Roosevelt and his people they
looked at the future as we can annihilate any kind
of you know what they do it as like retrograde,
you know, atavism, which which manifested in terms of like
identitarian politics. You know, we can divide the world up
between the United States and the Soviet Union and this
kind of like peaceful concord where there's like two spheres
of influence, but ultimately you know that there's not enemity
between the two systems. You know, they kind of like
evolve along in front of another. They viewed they viewed
fascism as basically, you know, a way to try and
preserve outmoded concepts of the human condition. I mean, it's
more complicated than that and both more simple, I mean,
depending on who we're talking about. But that that was
the entire ideology that underlay it, okay, And the way
that this was enshrined after when the dust settled and
Europe was in ruins and Japan had been subjected to
a nuclear assault and fifty million human beings were dead.
Was well, you know, some sort of formal order had
to be instituted beyond simply the kind of whims of
Moscow and Washington. So the preceding system, which was the
most failing system, which it basically endures in sixteen forty eight,
which was, you know, there's an equality of status between
states where moral consensus reigns, you know, mainly mainly Europe
plus America, the Russian Empire, later the Soviet Union and
then Japan. You know, there's a there's certain parameters within
which war must be waged. But it's a legitimate policy instrument.
It arrives like the seasons. It's just you know, the
reality of power politics that the International War Crimes Tribunal
declared that was all illegitimate. It said World War two
happened because there was a conspiracy, a criminal conspiracy of
men in Tokyo and Berlin and they were bent on
world domination and everything they did incident to you know,
the kind of day they function of government with Taylor
do annihilate categorically populations they viewed as inferiors or ops,
and to dominate the planet. So this can never happen again. So,
you know, Moscow and Washington with the UK as kind
of junior partner, were declaring ourselves to be the representatives
of planetary humanity and anybody who takes on these sort
of fascist ambitions, they're a criminal, that is illegal, and
they're going to be targeted for destruction. Okay. That's literally
what became international law. So you can't be right wing
after there was you know, two superpowers plus what remains
the United Kingdom just declared if you agree with these guys,
what'sn't the communists just annihilated? You're a criminal and you're
slated for destruction. I mean they literally just declared it
illegal to the right wing and declared not only is
it illegal, but if you take on these imperatives, you're
an enemy of all of humanity on this planet. They
unpersoned you. Okay. So what happened in America was it's like, okay,
after Roosevelt died and the New Deal kind of started
to lose its mandate, it's like, well, what are we
you know, the question was kind of answered like Truman
was an interesting president, and I actually think he was
like a pretty good president in the bound irrationality of
you know, the extat strategic situation. But Truman wasn't any
kind of new dealer, okay. And what the American right
was it had been Taft. And interestingly, if you read
Kennedy's Profiles and Courage, it includes this kind of almost
eulogy to Robert Taft, like, you know, Robert Taft was
a brave guy because he was wrong all the time,
but he you know, he fought a good fight. Like
that was basically saying like, it's no longer acceptable to
think this way, so it's safe to kind of praise,
like what was the right wing? I mean, we're gonna
go ahead of ourselves. I think that's important. But any event,
so post nineteen forty seven, you know you have Eisenhower,
who's basically Eisenhower was like some sort of like military
or he like wasn't really political. Okay, Then it's like, well,
what is the American right? Oh, it must be Verry Goldwater.
He's he's, you know, he's like this pro libertarian gadfly.
He wants like abolish the irs, and I mean he
was like a terrible candidate. But the way to interpret
that it is not just because he was propped up
as some kind of stiff who was supposed to lose.
I mean, that was probably part of it, but it's
like the American right like didn't know what it was,
you know. So then you get mister Nixon, and like
Nixon himself, he wasn't any kind of It's not like
Nixon was some kind of like extremist right winger or
it's not like Nixon was even trying to like rule
as an imperial executive by you know, by by executive
order without regard to you know, this separation of powers
or something. But what began happening in America was you
had LBJ who totally defected, you know, from the dixiecret element.
And for context, like the South always sent Democrats to Washington,
but they weren't like Northern liberals, like they were these
Jeffersonian type. They're basically Jeffersonian white nationalists. You know. There
were guys who were like, reconstruction will never happen again,
and there was they would rather have died than like
voted on a Republican tickets. That's the Party of Lincoln
is the Party Reconstruction. But then the Dixie krabs got
merked by Johnson going like one on forced integration. So
you get George Wallace who runs this like insurgent campaign
of like America first, you know, white nationalism, but not
by like edict, you know basically like restoration and reassociation
rights and end of forced integration, you know, an end
of the Vietnam War. And Wallace was carrying the solid South,
you know, like in the in the polls and stuff.
Then in the North you had a bunch of ethnic
white guys who were like into Bobby Kennedy. Like even
though Kennedy was kind of a crazy liberal, like a
lot of like work in class like Italian and Irish
dudes and stuff like identified with him because they thought
he was like a real man. He like stood up
to mob guys. He was, you know, one of them.
Like Bobby Kennedy gets wet and suddenly like all those
guys start like voting like backing Wallace. So like his
Wallace rallies start happening, and it's a bunch of like
Peckerwood Reddenneck guys. But it's a bunch of like South
Boston guys and like Brooklyn Italian guys and like Slavic guys.
So you get So what's developing is like this like
mass coalition or like white dudes from like across like
sectarian lines, across like ethnic lines, across regional lines, and
this thing started becoming huge. So like Nixon basically at
the behest of guys like Pamp Buchanan and like Helderman,
he basically like takes on like that platform some qualifications.
So the Nixon coalition is basically like the solid South,
like northern white ethnics and like adjacent like non white
people who like hate liberals, and Nixon like utterly sweeps
the country, you know. And speaking of the Heritage Foundation
and the Rock for An Institute as we did before
we went live last month, they released Chronicles magazine like
a great takedown of Watergate and how it's exactly like
what they did to Trump or tried to do. Because
when this coalition, when this uh, when this kind of
like super coalition of you know, like white Christians like
ossifies and like goes into revolt, like the deep state
like utterly like loses its fucking mind, you know, and
they don't know what to do, okay, And that's basically
what underlies these I mean, I mean the people, the
individual people like go Berzerk about Trump like they're they're
just complete idiots and like NPC so like Earn in
the game, I think like Trump's gonna take away like
their gay porn or something. But I don't know or
if they're a p on their corn flakes. But like
in terms of the people at policy level, and the
people are like orchanestrating law there against him, what's in
their mind is oh, Trump's a fascist because look at
the people who support him. It's doesn't really to do
with like Trump the guy, like Trump the guy. I
don't think it's really political. I mean I like Trump personally,
but you know, it's not like Trump is some It's
not Trump is some like guy like George Wallace. It's
not like he's some like guy like me even I
mean not that I'm so smart, but he doesn't like, you know,
hold the kind of opinions I do. You know, he's
not even really like a guy like Paul Goffreid. You know,
Trump's like a he's like a normal New Yorker in
like his seventies. Like if you're like a white dude
from New York in your seventies, like how else would
you think? But the coalition around him is a right
wing coalition and like a purest sense, and that's illegal.
It's illegal, it's unacceptable. The regime under is literally structured
in every sense to like oppose that tendency and like
annihilated with military means if it emerges as a strategic
challenge and to basically like criminalize it domestically. But like,
what do you do when seventy million people like ossify
around a tendency. You can't just be like those seventy
million people are all bad people, Like you can't do
that and have any credibility or any mandate, Like people
just like laugh at you and like the police need
to enforce your shit and be like I'm not doing that,
you know. I mean, so this, so this is a problem.
But that if I understood the question, and forgive me
for like going on a monologue like that, That's that's
what I mean. Okay, Like philosophically, yeah, there's complexities, but
if I get into all those will be here all night.
But that that's what I mean when I say, like
there is no right wing, I mean there is. It's
people like us, but it's not like represented and it's
not it's not Mitt Romney. It's not you know, it's
not Fox News. It's not it's not some like random
Republican pack that's like anti abortion and wants little taxes.
Like I'm not even I'm not saying it was like
bad things or anything. It's like, you know, like honest obviously,
but that's not what we're talking about. And that's that's
not like right wing in the sense that we need.
And it's only you viewed that way because you live
in like erratically like left wing political culture. So like
anything like remotely like outside the norm or like normal
is like considered like oh, that's like extremist, you know,
because like you literally have this like social engineering regime
that's promised on this like rabid anti fascist ideology that's
both like outmoded and outdated, and it's it's whole. It's
like raison veetro is like trying to basically like eradicate
people's ability to live historically, you know, so as the
like make people more malleable to this kind of a
you know that this this kind of rule by government
you know, kind of in every aspect of of social
exist It's it's like ridiculous, Like nobody that's I'm the
evil of that. Inherently, nobody thinks that way anymore. That's
like that, that's like sixty years at a date. But yeah,
that's that's what I got in terms of in terms
of the question, Uh.
Speaker 2: That's great. And it's been about an eighty year span
since the forty five and the time you're talking about
played out over almost eighty years at this point, and
we can say that it's pretty much been a long
slow or gradual Maybe gradual, I guess it's rapid in
terms of historic timelines, but watering down of the right wing,
deracination of the right wing, and sort of even expulsion
of the right wing from institutional politics. So like the
guys you're talking about, Nixon and Wallace in particular, like
these were like, you know, mainstream politicians. One of them
was the President of the United States, And these guys
represented a whole swaths of the population who were on
board with their politics. But now there's really nobody in
office that I really think for my entire lifetime, definitely
my adult lifetime, since I've been paying attention to politics
for about twenty five years, who can hold a candle
to those guys? But popular movements, organizations, coalitions, things like that.
Those two have been greatly watered down. But even if
their individual politics are maybe the same, which I don't
think they are, but even if you could say that
they are, they have definitely been declaued. And Trump brought
this resurgence. I would like to talk to you about
the resurgence that happened twenty fourteen, fifteen sixteen with the
Trump the first Trump election, but I don't want to
start there. I want to back up to the time
period that you were talking about, because you were talking
about politicians and institutions and their support with the populace,
but at the same time, like we're just individuals here
and we have some emblance of a movement. I guess
if you want to say that, we have some groups,
some coalitions, and we come out of this tradition that
I feel there's been a huge break from. There's been
a huge break from the right wing in well the
fifties of America, but also there's been a big break
from like some of the German thinkers and the Italian
thinkers who are all starting to come back now, they're
all starting, you know, you hear these names thrown around
Carl Schmidt, Spangler, Ivola. But I really want to focus
on Americans, just because we have limited time here, and
I'm thinking in particular like the John Birch Society, George
Lincoln Rockwell, and the American Nazi Party, and of course
your guy Francis Parker YACKI, who I don't know of
him being associated with any group or coalition or organization.
I know, I've read the Birchers talking very favorably about him,
but I've heard others, Rockwell and others really kind of
rejected him over the you know, core of his life
and the decisions he was making politically. So I'd like
to if you, if you can, if you'd like to
maybe sort of give the same rundown of those you know,
popular movements, intellectual movements, coalitions, how they existed. Then I
don't know if you were including those in your in
your characterization of there can't be a right wing anymore.
But obviously the right wing now is demonized the John
Bircher's They deserve their own episode and how they got
taken down.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Birchers were fucking idiots, but
I mean, like I those three elements you're talking about
like the A n P. The Birchers and Yackey. They
were all on like a totally riant tip.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah from each other, you mean yeah, yeah, right, No,
I agree.
Speaker 1: It's like they're yeah, I want to saying you're suggesting otherwise.
That's important, that's important to characterize.
Speaker 2: But I'm comparing their politics to our politics.
Speaker 3: Now, Oh no, I understand.
Speaker 1: Okay, the uh, the Berkshire is basically I mean it
became as the Cold War set in, like in earnest
and I mean like especially like when Korea jumped off.
There's a good intellectional biography of McCarthy. I can't remember
who wrote it, but it drops not long ago, you know,
despite what people claim, you know, like I said, a
moment ago, I don't think this is paramount understanding the
trajectory of the aeological trajectory of the regime PUS ninety
thirty three. But they were over This is what's documented.
There were over two hundred Soviet agents that infiltrated the
Rose of administration. It's it's ridiculous, Okay. So McCarthy he
started identifying these people. He's like, okay, we're in a
state of war and all but name with the Soviet
Union and you're saying it's okay to be on record
as a communist. I mean it'd be like, I mean
during World War Two, like if you were like a
card carrying member of the Boon or the Silver Shirt,
so you're like a Red Trade agent or the Third Reich.
But they just be like, oh, that's okay, Like you're
you're tipping at windmills if you say this is bad.
So it's like there's like this kind of ridiculous fantasy
suggested that like as if like the Soviet Union was
an imagineary or like it didn't or like like the
cooler wasn't actually happening, and McCarthy was some crazy man
like picking on eccentric people or something. And then what
brought McCarthy down is Roy Cone, and uh, Roy Cone
either his boyfriend or some guy who he wanted to
get close to, this guy, David Shine, like Cone started
trying to pull so I started trying to flex on
the US Army to get Shine out of the military draft.
So the Army is basically like why you're so interested
in this guy? And then they started digging into Cone,
like Cone is very very gay Okay. So it's like, okay, McCarthy,
like your guy here, your counselor record, like he's trying
to flex on the army to get his like boy toy.
He's like out of their obligations. That's what brought down
McCarthy was And he was indecent and picking on patriotic
Americans because the marsionary coon is is because Roy Cohen
basically couldn't control his his baser desires. But Yaki Yaqui
wasn't Yaki. Look, Yaqui's little point, first last and always was. Okay,
after nine thirty three, America is the mortal enemy of Europe. Okay.
You can't like transform your mortal enemy into some benign element.
So Yaqui's like, how do we liberate Europe? We liberate
Europe by some kind of concourd with Moscow. Okay. So
that's what he pursued. I believe he was on record
with check Intelligence and probably the Shazi. He absolutely was
running around the East Block and nobody can explain why.
When he was incarcerated in San Francisco, well As Cardo
went to meet with him and he asked about George
Lincoln Rockwell, Yaki said, I have no idea who that is,
and he didn't because Rockball was some like vaudeville crank.
You have some vaudeville crank telling n world jokes and
dressing up as some like TV wrestling villain or something like.
He was a jag off, you know, like I when
I was saying too ran Taylor a few months back
was interesting, you know, like I was at his house,
like his wife had us for dinner. It was it
was great. But he's like his takedown was just like, look,
he's like Rockball thought he was John Wayne, okay, and
Taylor knew the guy. He's like you thought he was
John Wayne. He's like the man was physically tough, even
like in his into his fifties or like late forties
or whatever. You know. He he definitely was not a coward.
I he definitely was like like believed in like white nationalism,
like calling yourself a quote Nazi and holding up signs saying,
you know, I support Uncle Adolph's gas cure, Like you're
fucking idiots, Like yeah, I mean we make jokes and
stuff too, and I'm not. I mean, I live in
a fucking Chicago man, Like it's not like I recoil
it bad language, but that's just like moron, you know,
and and he knew it was. That was the whole point.
The whole point was like the fucking moron and like
and it make people mad. You know. Yaki was a
real national socialist and like Yaki otto reamer, these guys
who were like these guys went fought for the Reich.
They basically agreed with Yaki, you know. And Yaki's notion
was like, look, you know, like Stalinism is a tyranny.
Our people are suffering under it. Half of Europe is
imprisoned by it. But the Shalinists aren't like socially engineering
Europe out of existence, and America is you know. So
it's like would you rather like have a policeman like
having his foot on your back or would you rather
be being like racially annihilated and beyond the practical Yaku's
oh point was like, look like if the Russians when
the Cold War, he like, first of all, they need us,
They need Europe like intact for its technics, for its
mentioned material, for all of that, you know. And he's
like again too, he's like, eventually, you know, even if
Soviet dominations perennial, like if anything, they're gonna become like us,
not like us, like them. You know a lot of
like the Russians, like Putin was an outlier because he
was KGB. I think KGB and J are you guys?
These Russian guys and Occupy East Germany most of them
didn't even stak German and they didn't want to like this.
It's like there was like this kind of there's like
this quarantine between like the occupier and like you weren't
supposed to fraternize with them, you weren't supposed to take
on their habits. It was almost like deliberate that the Soviets. Yeah,
they they'd crush your clergy, they'd arrest you having a typewriter,
but they're not gonna say, like you're not German anymore,
you're just a citizen of this planet. We're gonna import
African immigrants to tell your daughter to marry one. That
was like not even on their program like that. They
would have thought that was insane, you know, Like that's
the difference. So in Yaki was looking ahead like a
couple hundred years, you know, and frankly he was right,
like where where where are Europeans like not mind fucked
Eastern Germany, you know, Slovakia, you know, places like that.
You know, like the Russian Federation has terrible problems, but
they're they're they're not they're not they're not promoting to
children that they should be transsexual. They're not like declaring
that Russia is too white and you know, needs to
atone for this. And it's like not even remotely within
their contemplation, you know, Like, so what these fools claim
about Yaga is he was a third world is Like
it's like, no, he's not. You're a fucking idiot. That's
not what he's saying. He's not saying like Russia is good.
He's not saying the Soviets are good. He's saying that
Europe is under occupation. Like do you want to be
eradicated from history or would you rather just have the
Russians like cracking the whip on you? And yeah, that's
not a good prospect either way. But there's a way
out of the one where you survive and arguably thrive
admittedly a century subsequent, and there's one where you cease
to exist. Okay, you can never make the choice to
cease to exist unless you want to commit racial suicide.
That was Yacki's point to conclude my take on the Birchers.
I know we're going backwards, is what Tommy Mesker said.
They were like the politically correct, like extreme right. They're
guys who up until nineteen eighty nine claimed everything that
happened to some plot from Moscow. That's fucking retarded. You know,
the Jays don't exist, the social engineering regime doesn't exist.
You know, the New Deal regime wasn't what I said
it is. It's communists. Are these bad guy ops who
are like hiding under our bed and fucking up up that.
That's that's it. That's that the sandwich of you fucking
take the guy.
Speaker 2: I read revel O oliver and he's He's how I
came to Yacki. It was through him, because he praises
him a lot. He wrote in the Enemy of Europe
there's an addition that has I think it's called the
Enemy of My Enemy by Olivier and uh he's he
tells the story of the Manuscript of the Enemy of
Europe and he praises Jacky. But uh yeah, and I
have some other book by Bircher's but we'll talk. Maybe
we could talk about that another time. But yeah, I
don't know. Oliver's Oliver's pretty base man. I'm assuming you've
read him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was. He was William Pearce's Day One
kind of inspiration him and William Gelly Simpson. It was
worth reading too. I'm not saying a huge accolae.
Speaker 4: Oliver.
Speaker 1: Oliver was a weird guy. I mean, I think I've
got I like a lot of what he wrote. He
was one of these academics who thought he had to
prove he like actually had gujone, So he'd like he'd
invoke a lot of stupid like racial language for no reason, Like, look, man,
what you call I'm not afraid of people dropping the
N word, But you're some like fucking university professor like
trying to like talk hard by dropping that kind of shit.
It's fucking cringe. So I could do it out that stuff.
He had dumb ideas in the Kennedy administration. But he
he was a real philologist and that was rare in
America even like sixty seventy years ago, and I respect it,
and he had insights. Yeah, I Oliver's worth reading, man,
with some reservations.
Speaker 2: Well, and the reason I drop his name is because
he's how I found yacky.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, reading I've never seen.
Speaker 4: He's got very Adam green asque ideas of Christianity, and
you know we need to somehow, you know, find a
new faith structure.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Adam Adam Green is like he's like
some He's like some Walmart motherfucker who I thinks he
knows things. That's hilarious. He's like a j J. What
we call it the Jay Dyer. Well, no, he explained
to me that he's more popular on the internet than
I am. So I mean, I guess he's I guess
he's a He's got the sensibilities of a thirteen year
old girl. It's like when he's not dropping, it's like
Walmart take on great religions of the world. He's telling
me that, you know, he's he's the he's the prettiest
girl at his junior high school or something. But I
don't want to talk about that, motherfuckers. He's like a
bass who never goes away person.
Speaker 4: Why the reason why I brought in I brought into that.
The reason why I brought it up is because you know,
since we have limited time with you, one thing I
think it would be most useful to discuss is kind
of a lay of the landscape, the topology of the
right currently. Like let's just take you know, normal common
conservatism whatever and just park that shit over here. It's
not going to be around much longer. It's no point
talking about it, right. So what we have now the
various factions that operate in it, right, the priorities of
those factions, whether expressed or private, all right, and the
messages that these factions go about trying to propagate. You know,
which ones are useful? Which of these factions are viable?
Are none of them viable? Are any of them good
enough to you know?
Speaker 1: Do they do?
Speaker 4: Any of them possess a mentioned material capable of political
organization and self actualization? And basically, what do we work with?
What do we discard? Who do we work with? Who
do we discard once we found that out? What do
we work towards? And how do we know when we're
getting there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, what do we folster, who do we give?
Speaker 1: You know, it's not most of these guys are just
like Internet guys, like they don't really exist. They're like
these guys like in instead of like watching porn or
being in the NFL or like sports gambling, just like
say shit on the internet. They pretend like I'm like
I'm like an oldness and growny you know, like Iron Guard,
like Ukrainian fascist and I want to kill Christianity. You know,
it's like it's fake, you know, I mean one of
the reasons why. And again I'm not saying like I'm
so great, but this shit is like what I do
twenty four to seven. It's like my real life. So
it's like I'm going to talk to hood dudes, We're
going to like an event, We're going to talk to
like random like fucking other people. I like say, here
is where I'm going, and these are the people I'm
talking to, And this is like the shit I'm up on.
We're not, yeah, I mean like we are a movement.
But the point I always making is like we pick you, you
don't choose us. I don't mean you guys on deck,
I mean generally. So like when I get like messages
from motherfuckers like mostly ops, even guys who are like
think their presumption is like you need to do this,
you need to do that. It's like, bro, you're nothing
to me. You're nobody, you know, like there is no us.
You know again, we choose you, you don't choose us.
And this isn't some like internet club or something. What
my view is what I said on Burdens Show a
couple of weeks back. What we're doing, what my peoples
are doing, what we've always been doing. We are succeeding
from the regime, and now there's the infrastructure to do that.
We have our own communities, we have our own capital bases,
we own our own businesses. You know, we we have
we have we have cooperatives where we educate our kids.
We don't want anything to do with regime. Shit, we
don't want to become the government. The state is dying.
It's dead. It doesn't know it yet. It's a zombie
that is going to shamble on for another one hundred
and fifty twenty years, but it's dead. We want nothing
to do with it. Okay. What we're doing is we
are living historically and we are bringing worthy people and
we're a bandguard. We do not want numbers, we do
not want normies. We are a vanguard of people living
historically and we are looking to the world after we
are all gone. Okay, because that is when this is
going to be fully realized. It has nothing to do
with government, has no new applical parties. There has nothing
to do with you know, capturing the city council of
of you know, Podunk Iowa. None of that. We don't
we don't want to fuck with that. It's not to say,
like one of the young bloods who's in like Homeland
Fiction and I took him to lunch today, he's probably
gonna land a job in the Trump administration. And that's great, Okay.
I want young games to do that kind of thing,
and moving forward, it'll like teach them things about you know,
like the reality of politics and like sharpen their chops
for just like real life. But our goal is not
we want to become the government and like stop immigration.
Like that's we're way, way, way, way way past that.
That's the twentieth century fight, okay. And you're no, there's
not gonna be. There's not gonna be some like system
reinstated globally where like the Westphalian state comes back and
you can just like deport all the Mexicans and you'll
create this like white person state that's where everybody's some
like middle of the road normany con that's not gonna happen,
that's never gonna happen, like what you can do, though,
the future looks like this, like local is I mean,
this sounds corny and I don't want to sound like
something like Thomas Friedman, like F A G, G O
T or something. But the future is this, Okay, it's
basically like sovereignty exists locally because like the government can't
interfere it anymore. So it's like, okay, this hood over
here is like nine nine pro amcent black, like hearing
me and my peoples live, It's it's basically in the reverse,
but like white, like over here there's some like mixed
race community because that's the way people want to live.
You know, people police themselves, law enforcement basically private. That's
where it's trying to happen. If you haven't noticed, like
policing is totally changing, like people's people's purview is gonna
become way way way smaller. Economically, though, like there's gonna
be a real homogenization of of currencies and things. I mean,
that's already happening, So you're gonna have like economic globalism.
There's gonna be like an availability a capital that's looking
for a place to go, the way people can do business.
It's gonna be remarkably homogenous. But this idea of this
is the government, and it's it's it's it's it's the authority.
It's it's the premive of the He stopped here, and
you're part of the democratic state. These are your rights,
these are your obligations. That's dead. That's dead. Anybody who
thinks it's not isn't in the game. Just like these
guys who talk about like the West, like we got
at the front of the West. It's like there is
no West. The West died at Stalingrad. You know, you
if you think in those terms, you're like not, you're
not in the real world. You're only an internet guy,
or you're some dude who like it's kind of like
isolated from the reality of stuff because he lives, you know,
in some in some town that's not really impacted to
the full extent like globalism like Chicago is, and he's
trying to like piece together he's reading he's reading stuff
that's like seventy years out of date or that was
written you know, like in nineteen ninety one and thinking
that represents reality when it doesn't. I realized I was
long winded. But yeah, that's I mean, that's my takedown.
I don't I don't fuck I don't fuck with like
wig nance. I don't fuck with like random motherfuckers. I
don't fuck with guys who like declare their part of
some like a engineering like political movement. I mean, what
we do is what we do, and we get stronger
every day.
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, I want to give a stormy
or pet a chance to ask a question or comment
before I take it further.
Speaker 4: Anything I've anything I've gotta say is going to be like,
it's really long. I agree with almost all of those things,
some differences regarding global capital things like that, but none
of that is going to be interesting to any of
your listeners.
Speaker 1: Let's just be.
Speaker 3: Real, Thomas. When you when you talk about localism, is
that just going to be the facto? Is that just
going to be people right now? If you start talking
about that, it's almost like a plan. It's like, hey,
let's all go there's this really cold town in Virginia
and everything where our people are already there. You know, we
got to go there? Or is it it's gonna be
people are It's gonna become instinctual where it's just like, okay,
we gotta I'm gonna go find my own people. Now
it's like I'm not even this isn't even a plan.
I'm just packing up and getting the fuck out.
Speaker 1: It's both. I mean, look, man, like I didn't think
this would I didn't think we'd reach this state. I
mean historically speaking, I don't just mean like in my
own life, your own life. I didn't think we'd reach
the state until I was already dead. Okay, but like
four yeah, four years ago. I did did my first
social media account until four years ago, and like basically
the minute I set it up, like in two days,
I have like six thousand followers, and I'm like, what
the fuck is happening here? You know? And now, I mean,
I'm not clout chasing. I'm telling you, like the reality.
I literally know like five hundred people, like I know
obviously some of them want better than others. But this
all just like happened organically and like rapidly and spontaneously,
and like the place I'm gonna start spending my winters
at that, Like Burden and other guys turned me on
who It just happened, like a bunch of dudes and
their wives like moved there because it's a nice place
and it's deep, big on Confederate heritage, Like nobody planned it.
Just one day there was like one hundred and fifty
of us there. You know, this is happening all over
the country. It's probably happening over the world, but I'm
not a globe trotter, so I can't say. So it's
like I'm not saying you guys are saying this, but
it's like when guys talking me, like how do you
see this shaking out? And I'm suspicious. It's like, bro,
it's happening. You're not part of it. But it's happening everywhere,
you know, Like it's not academic. It's happening, and it's
it's a combination, you know, like most of the guys
I meet her up on this or like my buddy
in the Southwest, who I used to lay a lot
of content, which has been busy with like you know
the business of raising kids and having his own business
and stuff. But he moved to his town in Arizona
and like the same thing happened like one day this
like New like young dude and his wife were like
girlfriend moving and they got a little kid, and he's
like some like huge trunk guy. Some my buddy starts
hanging out with him, and then they start getting into
like historical revisionist conversations, and then like all this guy's
friends like move there. Then like random old people were
like super right wing move there. And then just like
you know, like it just happened, you know, and I
hear these stories like over and over and over again,
and just even you know, I mean like now you're considered.
Now you're considered like a nerd or something if you're
not at least like marginally like right wing, or if
you're like a white person who like acts like some
pussy about stuff like like nobody likes that. Everybody thinks
that's uncool and fucked up. And in contrast, in like
the nineteen nineties, like everybody fucking hated us, like you
were viewed as basically like a scumbag, like if you
were like right wing, you know, yeah, you know something
that's like the degree to which that's why like these
black pill guys, it's like hilarious. It's like you've either
got no perspective either you've got a perspective you don't
leave your house, or you're like nineteen years old and
have no idea like what the world used to be
like you know, like basically yeah, I mean like and
I'm telling people too, you know, like summer twenty twenty three,
like I forgot slotted, Like some friends of mine took
me to New York City, which is awesome because like,
I've been locked in jail before for the night, but
this was particularly traumatic way it happened. I do think
bad ha been in jail. I mean it was fine,
but you know, this place, sovereign house out in Brooklyn.
The only like subcultural action that's at all cool is
right wing. But we wants to be like Kamala Harris.
Nobody wants to fuck with Joe Biden. Nobody it's cool
to be like Tim Walls. You know, these like right
wing spaces in places like Brooklyn, in places like Hyde
Park here, in places like fucking Los Angeles, it's like
right wing guys and girls doing their thing, and like
a bunch of artsy people and theater people and like
fucking cloud chasers want to be around it. I'm not
saying that's cool. That's kind of retarded. But that's the
metric of the culture. So anybody who thinks like like
we are like anything subcultural that's happening or dynamic, like
we are leading it. You know, So anybody Rogers theorem.
Have you ever heard of Roger's theorem?
Speaker 4: No, it's a it's a really interesting bit of math. Basically,
technology entrepreneurs use it to track, to predict and model
the adoption cycle of like, let's say, a new way
of doing things. Right, it could be like how to
interface the platform. You know, apps were completely different than
anybody else's Internet experience. So if you're going to plan
out your runway, all right, figure out like, all right,
this is how much I burn every month, This is
about how fast my users are growing. How much more
room do I need before the curve starts getting parabolic?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: And the number the magic number. It turns out this
Rogers theorem, which is just for technology, works just as
well tracking the propagation of ideas across society.
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand.
Speaker 4: Would you say that there's fourteen percent maybe roughly of
people that know what you and I know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably right.
Speaker 4: So that means so Rogers theem basically says it may
take five years, it may take six months, but once
you pass thirteen fourteen percent, there's a point of no return. Right,
that idea, that knowledge, right will be in every member
of society, right at some level of penetration, depending on
what they interface with and what parts of that information
is relevant to their individual experiences. No, I understand is
like the most powerful people in the world, like in
the country. Let's say, all right, we know that they're
listening to our guys, they're not reading our stuff. We've
I mean, yeah, I mean check this out. Our ideas
are going to be everyone's ideas. That is what I'm
saying this out. And I mean I I got receipts
for this. I got fucking witnesses. Like a year and
a half ago. I got on a plane the fucking
Arkansas and the co pilot when he's walking to take
a piss, he says, hey, you're Thomas, and I'm like,
what the fuck? And he's like, hey, man, I really
love your podcast. And my wife thinks a really funny
like let me take a selfie with you to send
to her, And then like at the Union Park like.
Speaker 1: D n C. Shit, I'm there with Arthur and Bow
and like we're just talking and this cop walks over,
like I'm not gonna drop what agency's throng. Last time
I want is for people have problems, But like I
see walking our wrong as my gos shit, he's probably
get the fuck out of here. He's like Thomas, like
you're awesome man. You know what I'm like talking about
like guns and like all kinds off and he's like
zagari fellows, you know. He's like, uh you'll be good man,
stay up. And he's like yeah, you got you got friends,
like you know, in the police department. And I'm like
this is fucking insane man, you know, Like I yeah,
and like uh so that that basically kind of hits
me to like how the degree to which like what
you're saying and like Roger's theorem is right, I don't
really understand. I mean I understand statistics on some level,
and I've read stuff I you know, like I'm always
saying like I wish there was more serious sociology still
being dropped, like academic sociology, but the stuff that does
kind of still over with neuroscience and things I've read
stuff about like how the nature of information and information
it's almost like self perpetuating, yes, you know, like yeah,
and I don't fully I don't fully understand that ship
because it's not really my wheelhouse.
Speaker 4: But when you said, remember when I told you in
the beginning before we started recording that the conversation that
you and Peter had about about the last hundred years
being an index or a dialogue with Marxist Leninism, and
how that was paradigm shifting for me. So I came
to faith. You know, I left the church, as every
you know, young guy does, and then everybody you know
has their atheist phase, and I got, you know, really
I'm gonna I hated learning in school. I didn't like it.
Only much later on, like in my in my mid twenties,
that I realized that I like it now. I don't
haven't had a TV in about a decade, and learning
shit is what I do for fun because I'm a
weird guy, I guess. But I started pouring myself into science.
How to learned all the science, like I thought myself,
you know, calculus, because I wanted to understand like what
the fuckind Sigin is saying, like in his words, instead
of just reading the books, like on the surface level.
And then I had a bit of disposable income after
I sold my first company, and I started like being
you know, like a guy in his twenties with too
much fucking money, like I want to buy let me,
I want to see, Like can I buy a piece
of Einstein's notebook? I want to I want to buy
that that thing. And Google Translate like first came out
where you could like hold your phone over the man
you like the writing, and it would just read you
the text.
Speaker 1: And like I'm so like.
Speaker 4: I'm reading Einstein's letter to another physicist and this motherfucker
is talking about God, right, He's like I see God
from the tiniest bit from the from the tiniest of
the tiniest to the largest of the largest. I see
his handwriting everywhere. It's like it's like he signed every
every single thing. And I was like, wait a second,
like that, this this isn't what I was told that
this man believed. This was like these guys are talking
about something else. And from then on out, I just
I mean consciousness science became like a hobby, then a passion,
then something like I started funding and then like so
when you said in that episode, you said, basically a
RaSE is a chain of being that stretches back from
the beginning of time to the present and represents a
form of epigenetic memory, right, and that that epigenetic memory
could be roughly called the consciousness. Yep, you may have
just been spitballing, but there's a hell of a lot
of science to back up that that is not spitballing
at all.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, that's why I dropped it. That's a
subtext of my science fiction. Oh really, Yeah, so I
do something about that. I mean because that, I mean,
that's all higher okay, like if you don't know. And
then also that redeems do some people always saying like
condinal philosophy is this like speculative stuff or it's okay, well,
I mean what we're what we're talking about here, I
mean that that basically it defines it different terms, but
that you're based that that basically like this demonstrative like
Hagel being right, okay, get scale. Yeah, yeah, you know,
there's like there's like this enduring memory that's heritable, yes,
you know, and yeah, that that basically informs you know,
like human behavior at scale, like what would consider to
be a potal behavior.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, and like they've they've they've done
this in animal studies as well. So like you could
have groups of monkeys that are genetically identical, right, that
were separated on an island there's you know, part of
a large island.
Speaker 1: Then the water's raised a.
Speaker 4: Little bit, split the monkeys up, same exact, you know,
set of monkeys, just they can't swim the distance, and
they've basically been like many isolated for let's say three
four hundred years. All right, monkey on island a learns
how to use a new tool, all right, Other monkeys
watching learn, But then other monkeys on the complete opposite
side of that island, all of a sudden, all at once,
learn all at once, and as well as well the
monkeys on them, the monkeys that are separated on the
other island. So the monkeys on the other island learn
it too instantly.
Speaker 3: One hundred monkeys syndrome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go, the monkey syndrome.
Speaker 2: And then there their offspring know how to do it without.
Speaker 4: Yes, so you devet itping. There's a there is a
consciousness that we are both a part of and we
exist in, right, So it's kind of hard for people
to undert kind of conceptualize.
Speaker 1: But if I analogize, it's to the.
Speaker 4: Radio, right, and the Pentagon is up on this ship,
right we And I know that sounds crazy, But nineteen
fifty seven, the Pentagon commissioned Stanford Research Institute, which at
the time was the most prestigious research institute in the country,
therefore the most prestigious research institute in the world. Time
saying hey, we're hearing that the Soviets are doing research
and like things that the mind can do, right, we
want you guys to figure out basically what's going on.
They commissioned a broad study. It took It took SRI
at three or four years.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The report is called the Report on the Gateway Process.
Just typing Gateway Report. The very first thing will be
the Foyer reading room to twenty six page document which
would later spawn the most successful intelligent military and civilian
intelligence program in US history. But what does what these
guys basically prove out through eight or nine different experimental
like experimental modality so not like theoretically this is like
in the lab, right that you bring kind of tunes
into conscious I know, this is not where we wanted
to go. But basically, like I guess when you could
say it is like right, racial consciousness is part of
you know, is why it is. You know, our history
and our our genes are wide right, and it kind
of gets blurry out on the side. And that's when
I'm tuned into one O one one and you're tuned
into Hot one O one seven. All right, we're both
listening to the same radio wave. We're only a fraction
of a fraction of a decimal place away on the spectrum.
I got a different DJ than you got. I'm listening
to different tracks, different genres. We have an entirely different experience.
But yet we're all having a tiny little slipper of
a much larger experience. So when people all of a
sudden know things and intuitively know them in their gut,
all of a sudden, and they know the thing almost,
they may not be able to express in words the
totality of the idea that's just been given, the knowledge
that's been given them. It's just but the same way
that women's intuition works. Right, A woman will get information.
She'll walk into a room and let's say, like there's
some scary guy down the hall that wants to hurt her.
She doesn't know the fucking guy exists. She doesn't, she
has no way of knowing that exists. But she will
immediately instantly know as soon as she walks the door
and you say what's wrong. If she won't be able
to tell you, she'd be like, I can't put it
into words whatever, I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So
I think that's kind of what's happening, because it all
of a sudden, white people know everywhere all at once.
Sorry to like take us off on a tangent, but no, no,
you were telling me that I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It, because that's that's what underlies that. That's that, that's
what identitarian things are, Okay, I mean and so and
and that's why trying to eradicate to them, you're basically
trying to rip out of people like what makes them human.
I got to raise up momentarily. I'm sorry to be abrupt,
but this was uh, this was great, man. We should
do this again when I got more time. I don't
have to travel again for a minute, so I can basically,
within reason, make my own schedule. But so, yeah, I
I'd love to reconvene at some point, so yeah, just
hit me off man, like, I mean, any of you guys.
If you fellows don't my number like Pithas obviously you
can get it from him. But I really appreciate you
hosting me.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Well look man, there's a lot to talk about and
there's no rush, so we look forward to what we're
going to be having more conversations. So yeah, if you
came back, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: No, anytime. Yeah, and like, forgive me again, premire me.
Forgive me for like rushing through stuff or like talking
over people. I wanted to get a lot of stuff
up before I got to go, so I didn't mean
to be rude. Man, No, that's I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: We needed the foundation laid and you did it, so
appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, hit me up. I hit me up anytime, man.
But yeah, let me know this next week man, if
you want to do some more stuff, and that would
be great. All right.
Speaker 3: Oh, here you go, a real wallace for President Penn.
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I got a Wallace lamy
pin from from the era. I gave it to one
of the young bloods. Uh if he promised to wear
it on on Tuesday, and he did, he said me
a photograph.
Speaker 4: So what's your real quick for you? What was your
opinion of the for the First America for because there's
a lot of family history of me personally with that movement,
particularly Charles Lindbergh.
Speaker 1: No, they were great man. I mean, Lindbergh was a
great man and they were. They were after Huey Long died.
I mean, they were basically the resistance to what we
view as the deep state. I mean, I think they
were Long was problematic. I got a lot of guys
in the right thing. Wan was Long with like this
great hero and I'm not like throwing shade out him
in categorical terms, but there was problems there. But No,
I caught, when I am partial, Dudley Kelly like he
was kind of a crazy, uh tinerant Protestant preacher. He
was also like a writer, he wrote for Hollywood and
he yeah, he he's just a fascinating dude. But he
was a little more extreme than you know, the I
mean the America First Woman was very mainstream, you know,
so now they're they were fascinating, tendency and very positive
and Windburg would have made a great president. I think
I think so too, think so too.
Speaker 4: Is there anything that that is politically relevant today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, it's the same because it's the same fight,
you know, I mean it's the same tendency. Uh, it's
the same tendencies that essentially like create the battle lines.
You know, conditions change. History doesn't repeat itself, Like only
fucking idiots say that, But there are like enduring tendencies
and political cultures they create like fault lines. So yeah,
you know, like America first versus the New Dealers, you know,
the silent majority, you know versus the media and law
enforcement establishment in deep state like mega versus you know,
the the Ahstle elite. Like that's all those are all components,
so like the same the same constellation of conflicts that
have characterized America since after the war point of the States,
you know, in some way, shape or form that I
mean that deserves it's all like a dedicated episode in
its own right.
Speaker 2: Look, man, we we just laid fought for fucking months
worth a discussion just from that, just from that.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Thomas, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Take care, all right, brother, appreciate it. Yeah, I think
this is the perfect time to take a break. I
usually take a break in my show, Pete and Stormy.
I'm good for a minimum another hour if you guys
don't mind a quick break, I would love to pick
up some of those threats and talk to all the guys.
In fact, Stormy, I have a direct question from what
you just said before you come back.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 2: Stormy. What was that theory you dropped early?
Speaker 4: You've told me about that before, Rogers theorem. That's why
Elon bought Twitter. I think that's why Elon bought Twitter.
Speaker 2: You're right back, Well, I think that was very pertinent
to bring up. And it's happening. It's happening. So the
thing you said about woman's intuition.
Speaker 4: Elan didn't buy Twitter. If E didn't buy Twitter, none
of this would have happened. Right, He changed the entire
political landscape just by allowing the flow of information to
reach from little tiny frogo sphere. Because it's not just
it's not just the Jay stuff. Right. You can't, like,
I'm sorry, like, you can't name a conservative taking any
pro zionist stance on anything that is not getting just hammered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the left and the right. But the mainstream
media in two years, the mainstream media narrative isn't working.
It didn't work. It lost, It lost the election. It
lost the election when you talked about the threat, the
woman's intuition entering a room and feeling she's under threat
but not knowing why.
Speaker 4: There's dozens of studies on that.
Speaker 2: This got Trump millions of votes. Though, this phenomenon got
Trump millions of votes because a lot of independence and
even some Democrats flipped over to Trump. And the New
York Times went out and asked these people directly, individuals
the interview Yeah, asked them, why did you flip or
why'd you vote for Trump? Why'd you go independent? Why'd
you go for Trump and not the Democrats? And the
number one response was immigration, because the Democrats went so
insane with letting so many people in during the Biden administration.
And I think that it was that sense, that intuition
of a threat.
Speaker 4: And I don't think like crime. I don't think that's
not what it is. I think like a racial threat,
like somebody narrative.
Speaker 2: The media narrative that was trying to deny that that
existed didn't work. They weren't able to like si out
people into buying into all this liberal bullshit. And also
the thing that didn't work is that they saw with
their own eyes that the insane policies that the Democratic
administration were causing the threat, they were making the threat worse.
So aniko tyranny, which is what they were trying to use,
which is what the Floyd riots were was Annako tyranny
didn't work. It had it had the opposite effect, and
it worked. It won Trump the election on the terms
that you're discussed.
Speaker 4: All the Daoists out there, that's no surprise. Why, oh
the dallast it's action. Uh. Daoism is like is like
mysticism for for rulers. Right, It's there's a principle in there.
It's called action without action.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: If you're the if you're the ruler, if you're the
guy in charge, right, you have to flow your rule,
Your governance needs to flow like like nature. Right, whenever
you try and force something to happen that's not already happening,
not already a current, you will get the exact opposite
of whatever you try and do every time, because you're
going against the like your people are kind of like
just the little receptors of a visible current. Right, they're
just like the little tiny you know, like the little
lights flashing on the runway, Like that's just a current
of electricity going through and then going through again. You're
basically trying to, you know, reverse something that's much bigger
than you and much more much invisible is invisible, and
you will always generate. Whenever you try and forcibly change
the trajectory of this, you will get the exact opposite thing. Right,
You're trying to awaken black racial consciousness up now you've
got white racial consciousness. Oops, that's problem.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so what do you guys think for whatever
it is we're trying to do? And Pete, you've got
a lot of series with Thomas, Your show, even the
episodes without Thomas are educating people. It's educating people. And
what do you think? My the quickest way I can
characterize what I think Trump does for these ideas, I mean,
I think he helps people in real life materially, But
what he does for our ideas at the very least,
is he gives us breathing room. He gives us breathing
room so that we can let these ideas percolate. But
I'd like to ask Pete, what do you think a
Trump victory does for I don't know. I guess I'll
just say the right wing, our guys, Yeah, our guys,
our guys us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it allows us. I'm hoping it allows
us to start realizing that the progressive, the wokeism is
dying to the point where it's not powerful, it's not
something that needs to be a focus anymore. What I'm
hoping is from our guys and is they have to
start looking at the real threat to the right wing
and the real threat to to us, and it's oh,
it's the same threat that it's been for you know,
basically one hundred years. It's the same same group that's
given us wokeism. It's the same group that's given us
mass immigration. It's the same group. It's the same group
that's basically tried to destroy white European Christendom. And by
Trump actually being friendly to that group, I think it
helps more people to It's going to help more of
our guys who aren't willing to step over the line
that I you know that I have and that you
know a lot of us have to start saying why
are we allowing these and these radical leftist Jews to
control our culture and control our politics, because that's I
think that's what the next thing is. The next thing
is is like, if we're going to if we're going
to make America great again, this has to be about America.
And I don't know that it's even possible at this
point or at any point in the near future to
decouple from the Zionist power and leftist Jewish power. And
I think it's going to cause more people to talk
do what Thomas is talking about, is to just separate
and do everything they can to get away from this regime.
Speaker 4: And if everybody knows, they'll just what two percent.
Speaker 1: Stay in charge?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if ye, well here's what I can't
figure out. But yeah, but here here's the thing is.
You know, I was having a conversation with with somebody
on in DMS on Twitter today, you know, and he
was talking about conservatism and everything. I said, well, conservatism
is you know, why would I want to conserve anything
because conservatism is left wing? And he said, well, how
is conservatism left wing? And I said, well, define? I said,
define conservatism for me, and he said, well, holding true
to the values of the founding of America. And I said, oh,
so you meant you mean white European rule.
Speaker 1: You mean.
Speaker 3: The only people who can vote are white males who
are property owners. Okay, so where is that in conservatism?
And he's and he's like, shit, you're right, And I'm like,
most conservatives are civil rights regime Americans h and the
civil rights regime destroyed the constitution. There is no constitution anymore.
The Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four is the
constitution of the United States. And I don't know how
you break people of that. I mean, sure, a lot
of it has to do with the fact that boomers
live through that, and boomers look at it as something
very important, and boomers are going to die off. They're
dying off more every year. Gen X, I think gen
X as a gen x Er, we're a nihilist. We're
a very nihilistic generation. I don't know that we care
so much and invest. The problem is, I don't know
that most gen xers care enough to rebel against occupation Millennials.
Millennials don't care enough. Millennials aren't going to do anything
to insult anybody in any kind of way that could
be ethnic or religious, or whatever. So I think it's
going to come down to the zoomers. So the quicker
we can get the zoomers in power, the better, the
better chance we have of breaking that two point four
percent that are basically haven't been controlling our politics now
for I wouldn't even say one hundred years. I would say, really,
the founding, just the founding of the Lacud party is
really where you where you see it?
Speaker 2: Which was a crime, which was when was the Lacud
party found it was with the founding of the nation
of this.
Speaker 3: Late seventies is lacued late seventies. Let me look up
real quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, about when organized crime got diplomatic community.
Speaker 2: But I mean I would I mean, you have to
go at least Steen seventy three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2: Why would you make it that late though, I mean
the Civil Rights Act was prior to that.
Speaker 1: The founding.
Speaker 4: They still haven't, they still haven't hadn't completely disenfranchised Mike people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the basically every war since nineteen seventy
three has been a war for Israel. Yeah, and they
go to go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say say World War two was
a war for Israeli. Israel didn't even exist yet.
Speaker 3: Well, it was a war. It was a war for
world Jewry. They had come in, they had come into power,
and they were put I mean, I don't know, it's
kind of I mean, if you look through the Eisenhower years,
mean is where do you where do you really see?
I mean, you see there's a lot of the there's
a lot like the pushing of Brown versus Board of
Education and things like that. Sure you can point towards that,
but it wasn't like a full on There was still
remnants that we're fighting against it throughout the sixty These
people can talk about the sixties being this oh hippie generation.
I mean in nineteen sixty eight they voted in Nixon. Yeah,
you know that, and that was meant Nixon won in
a landslide.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I mean it's not like we it's not like
the lost who we were. It was. It was after that.
It was after Vietnam. It was after it was really
with the you know, I would even say the Reagan
Coalish and bringing in all of these bringing in all
of these evangelicals in there, who are evangelicals for is
I mean they're all Israel Bursters. So you know, I mean,
I don't think it was full on capture until I
mean the COUD came into power and you know, was
created in seventy three, but their power really started to
really take off like seventy nine ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Well this really interesting then because a le coute party
is almost dead and b Israel is almost dead. Well okay,
now we got guys calling each other wasps now powerful
guys like like Astra to the point like we're we're
talking about like World War two. In my series with Pete,
we outline how both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party,
the Democrat Party having just put FDR into into the
White House and within six months they had figured out
what was up. They're like, oh, this isn't Actually they
didn't know that FDR was hiding a bunch of you know,
Jews under like Bolshevik Jews underneath his wheelchair. You know,
they just scooted him on in there, and then holy shit.
Because the American Liberty League was was the precursor to
the America First political movement. This is you know, in
the nascent days, but there was a lot more firepower
behind the American Liberty League. You had the head of
the Democratic Party, right, who was previously right before FDR.
I should I can't remember his name, right, So you
had Al Smith. You hadl Al Smith, who was the
Democrat Party presidential candidate the year of the election cycle
before FDR and the chairman of the DNC for thirty years.
Then you had the head of the Republican Party right,
and you had taff was there. But also you had
John J. Raskin, who was the largest funder of the
d n C. He is the chairman and chairman, founder
and chairman of General Motors. And then on the other side,
also in the American Liberty League, you had Henry Ford.
You had Henry Ford. You had Jack Morgan, the son
of Pierpont Morgan.
Speaker 1: You had.
Speaker 4: Nelson, Sorry John, I can't remember it was Nelson or
Nelson's dad, Nelson's dad, John Rockefeller Junior. Anyways, you had
the Rockefellers. You had Irie and Pierre DuPont. You had
literally all of the capital in America, like all of
the wasp aristocracy. They're banking empires, their industrial empires. All right,
you had the chairman of the Democrat Party that just
put FDR in and the chairman of the Republican Party.
You had Huey Long, you had Father Cochlan, all on
this in the same place at the same time, in
the same organization, going what the fuck is happening? Who
are these people? How did they get here? And I
read one of their speeches on Peach Show. These men
are scared of something, right. None of these guys are friends.
Raskin and Ford used to feud like on a legendary level, right,
more than Mark Cuban and Elon have ever Like I'm
talking like, you know, actually industrial espionage, industrial sabotage, ar
sin like these guys were at war. Al Smith would
have never been caught in the same room with any
of those guys. And these guys were like, this is
the most important thing in the world. Somebody has taken
over our government. They're talking directly about communism, They're talking
directly about Bolshevism, right, They're like, this, this FDR or
this new Deal regime isn't from the Democrats, This isn't
anything that we want. This is anything the publicly, This
is coming from somewhere else. And the only thing that
could have stopped those men was Pearl Harbor because it did.
They used a war twice. They used a war to
solidify their control over a year over over England and
World War One, and they used the exact same tactic. Yeah,
because the Waspburger stock Rescy was already onto them, like
we had, like everybody had figured out what the fuck
was going on and to who the enemies were.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I dropped Yaki and revel O p Oliver as
two guys to kind of show as beacons of you
know what the right wing once was. Both of them
insist that we wanted Japan to attack Pearl Harbor and
we let it have Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they say
that we did for that reason that you just named,
because that was the only way for their revolution, the
revolution in nineteen thirty three, uh, to really solidify take effect. Yeah,
and the stuff Pete was talking about. Pete, I appreciate
what you said a lot, and you used a very
important word. I want to point out too. You're talking
about Nixon. How late that was. George Wallace ran for
president seventy two, didn't he. Yeah, Yeah, so that lately
had George Washington on the president George Wallace on the
presidential ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So how fortunately his his his campaign slogan was
stand up for America, and after that run he didn't
do any standing up.
Speaker 2: So well, you know, Pete, I don't know. I don't
know how much time you have.
Speaker 1: Pee.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to pick up something you said.
But before I do, I want to ask you a question. Actually,
because part of the inspiration that me and Stormy, Me
and Stormy cooked this whole thing up and uh, you know,
hopefully we can get a lot of episodes out of this.
Part of our inspiration was sign yeah you can, he's
he's bullshitting. Part of our inspiration for that was to
sort of track to some extent how far we've fallen.
There's like a dark ages of the right wing definitely,
you know, the George W. H the George W. Bush administration,
the Clinton administration. It was like it was like a
dark age. We went underground, the palaeocons were kicked out
by the neocons, and then we had this resurgence. Do
you it looks like you've pretty much already answered this question,
but I want I want you to elaborate on if
you'd like to. Do you think we've gotten it back
to some extent? Do you think at least some factions
or some outlets of the quote unquote right right wing
are sort of picking up the thread and keeping it
at that level. Or do you think we have a
lot more building to do? In other words, if this
has been going on for almost ten years now since
the first Trump administration, do you what phase do you
think we're at? I mean, do you think there's still
a lot more work to do ideologically or do you
think the stuff Thomas has been talking about, the on
the ground stuff, is like what we need to take
and run with.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Let me just make something clear.
People are going to think that I don't think the
Jews were in charge until nineteen seven.
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't give you a compression. I was
saying the takeover.
Speaker 3: It's just the takeover wasn't complete until yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So all right, I hope I didn't mischaracterize anything you said.
Speaker 3: No, that's fine, No, no, no, it's fine. I'm glad.
I'm glad you you pushed back a little bit on it,
because that that needs to be cleared up. What I
would say is it seems that the closest we could
have gotten to getting back to where we were was
the paleocon movement of the of the late eighties and
early nineties, and I think that well, it went away. Obviously,
it was defeated and it was defeated from the inside.
It was defeated. It wasn't defeated by Clinton by eight
years of Clinton. It wasn't defeated by Ross Perrot, you know,
talking about economics and things that it was defeated by
quote unquote right wingers on the inside. That it's exploded
with with the advent of the internet. These the ideas
that Pat Buchanan was talking about, and you know, the
palaeocons were talking about they're back and people are going
even further. You know, you talked about how we could
search Carl Schmidt on on Twitter right now and we'll
find people talking about Carl Schmidt today. You might find
people talking about Yaqui today. You'll find definitely find people
talking about Pat Buchanan. It's growing, it's spreading. The vice
the Vice President and elect follows our guys and probably
has a burner where he follows everyone.
Speaker 2: Well, I've heard about this, Elon Musk Berner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you have this, you have this happening,
you have people going These are the ideas that need
to be embraced. These are the ideas for going forward.
But once again, our greatest enemy is on the inside.
Our greatest enemy is the kosher right.
Speaker 4: This is this was actually the this is actually what
the this is why I when Astro was saying that
these are these problems, like you need to do a panel,
and you need to get everybody that you can.
Speaker 1: It's a while.
Speaker 4: This is the problem of our time right now. Right
two things are happening. The liberals are starting to realize
that they're in real trouble. I don't know if you've
already seen it, but like New York Times journalists or
you know, Rachel Maddow is telling everybody on our show
today that, oh, you just you need to actually like
reach out and talk to Trump supporters, take them out
to dinner, get to know them a bit, and see
if you can slowly change their mind.
Speaker 1: All right, And.
Speaker 4: Somebody just put a picture the perfect gift of like this,
this spider or the scorpion is crawling onto the frogs back.
I'm like, all right, so liberals are going to try
and retake over conservative conservatism, all right, And then we've
got the kosher right trying to take control of the
right now at a at this kind of you know,
in the wake of considerable victory, I consider Elon the
big victory. I don't consider Trump victory.
Speaker 2: Agree with that that I that is exactly where I'm at.
Speaker 4: I see I see Elon doing policy. The fact that
Mike pomp no Pompeo was trending for.
Speaker 2: The last three days, three days, last three days.
Speaker 4: Who controls what I'm Trump?
Speaker 3: Trump made the an aouncement today, Trump made the announcements today,
or Haley are not going to be part of the
a part of his White House.
Speaker 4: I saw that whose hand, whose hands juggled those algorithms,
Who decides what's trending and what's not?
Speaker 3: This is and let me tell you, you know, and
the thing is is that so we have this term,
this term that Lindsay came up with a couple of
years ago. I think he came up with it. I
don't know who came up with it, but he's the
one who's trying to push it down. Everyone's throat is
the woke right, and the woke right apparently is there
are the people who are the people on the right,
who are pushing back against the Kosher right. M hm,
that's all. That's it. We see one ethnic religious whatever
the fuck you want to call them group who is
YA has been in control, you know, has has exercise
control for over one hundred years, took total control thirty
forty years ago, and then now we're fighting all their
wars for them. They want us to continue to fight.
They're trying to get us to fight their wars for
them now. And we have people on the right, A
lot of them are noons, which you have to ask
the question, why are they a nonsh Let me tell
you them. If yeah, if if you're on the right,
and you're you know, you're you're on the I mean,
I hate the term dissonent right because it doesn't mean anything.
But if you're on this, if you're on this side
of the divide, you are pushing back on You're an American,
You're America first, you are, you are heritage America first,
you are we we should be calling our own shots.
This foreign influence that has for the last two thousand
years and further back. Every society they go into, they
infiltrate into power and they start trying to guide things
in everything in their direction for their benefit. If you're
not concentrating on that, if you're not talking about that,
I don't know that you're on our side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Also don't know why you're a non
unless you want to infiltrate. If you're anonymous and you're
not naming the j what do you what are you
protecting yourself from with your anonymity?
Speaker 3: What is the point or if you're or if you're
you name the jay a little bit, but then you
go and then and and then you counter signal. The
way I look at it is if you counter signal,
you're then you're out. You're out. Yeah, well you once
you start and this is what Rufo did. Rufo started doing. Recently,
Rufo put out an article about Charlotte, about Charltroy, Pennsylvania,
and he mentioned in that article that Jewish Family and
Children's Services were the ones who were bringing the Haitians
in there, and that they were working in there every
every week, and they were, they were, they were, they
were behind this And apparently and then not a week later,
he's counter signaling and he's calling out quote unquote antisemites.
It's like he did this article, put this out didn't
clear it with his bosses and got yelled at. And
now he's like on, you know, on on the attack
for anybody who is. And then he hires two women.
He announces that he's hiring two women to come in
and work, and then when you go into their backgrounds
you find out they used to work for Jewish NGOs,
and it's like, okay, well, I know who if if
you're worried about who's controlled this government, if you believe
Thomas masseyrobably the most honest man in the government, and
he says, everybody but me has an apac candler, has
an apack babysitter. We're a fucking occupied government by a
foreign power. And that foreign power is call it Zionists.
All Zionists are you know, these Zionists are Jews. Okay,
if you're not talking about that, or if you're making
excuses for it, or if you're hiding the fact that
you're Jewish and you're saying you know, you're saying that, oh,
Jews need to be coddled, and you know, we need
to we need to sell them on ourselves. But then
when it comes to like women who vote wrong, you
say those women need to be attacked and they need
to be called out.
Speaker 2: This kosher right you're talking about. Let's just be honest.
They're just neo cons really, And the funny thing is
the thing that kills me is they're like, we're not
neocons because we're racist, and you're like, well, that's really funny,
because the neocons all were racist up until you know,
George W. Bush's ethical conservatism, and then all of a sudden,
the neocons were this like completely you know, melting pot,
non racist, non racialized party.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everybody everybody's racist, everyone is racist.
Anyone who's ever lived in New York.
Speaker 4: Tell everybody where racism came from. Tell everybody that you
did a show the term racism. The term racism came
from the same place that transgenderism came from magnets in Germany.
He came up with the term, he promoted that. I
don't know if he came up with the term, but
he definitely promoted the term and put it into the zeitgeist.
The reason I just think whites can be racistus hirschfeldt
they're actually being doctrinally correct when they say, oh, no,
racism is actually just in group preference and cultural preference,
except for when white people do it.
Speaker 1: When white people do this, it's called racism.
Speaker 4: And then it, you know, becomes this nefarious and evil thing,
but only when European populations do it. That right there
is directly Magnus Hirschfeld who wrote it because the Germans
didn't want to let him have his child brothel anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I dropped the term melting pot. Who came
up with the term melting pot one of this guy's ethnics.
Speaker 4: To your point, I found a very interesting thread today
and I posted it on Acts and I haven't really
gone too deep in the guy that put it together,
but it's really good. It's accurate. I'll read your quote
for it, astroll, since you're not on Twitter anymore. James
Lindsay worked with Christopher Ruffo at color US United Advocacy
for a Race Blind America. All Right, I guess who
funds this The Tea COUV Fund, t I k v
a H Fund and the Manhattan Institute. Yeah. From the tipoff. Yeah,
so apparently Chris Rufo and James Lindsay I have actually
a bunch of I think you're correct. So these these
guys aren't kosher rights. This is an OP. This is
an OP.
Speaker 2: Not these guys being backed by these groups and these
institutes kind of explains their sudden like ubiquity throughout like
all the discourse.
Speaker 4: He actually this, this cat goes through and lists totally
Brett Weinstein, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another one. Well wait no, this.
Speaker 4: Brother Weinstein's intelligence agent for the st Eric.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eric is the OP.
Speaker 4: Really it's yeah, you know they're they're both ops. Apparently
apparently it's a family thing. But yeah, I think you
were in my You were in that Twitter You and
I actually met on that Twitter space where it was
about Lex Friedman's Lexman's one.
Speaker 2: He's another one so completely as I kind of know
Stormy's answer to this question because we've talked about this,
but I want both of you guys to talk about this.
You use the term decoupling. Can we decouple America from
this uh alien face hugger that's just like pumping its
fucking ideology down our throat. The Yaqui's whole thing is that,
like we can't like he called America the enemy of Europe,
and in that essay he doesn't ever say America. He
never refers to US as just America. He always called
it Jewish America every time, and his whole thing is that, like,
we can't be decoupled. And Thomas said earlier, Yaki was right,
and he was and if you read The Enemy of America,
it's very clear that he was correct. But yeah, sorry,
thank you. But now it's you know, fifty sixty seventy
years after he wrote that, and a lot of things
have transpired, and I definitely think we are in a
historical singularity, at least since World War Two. Now I
think we're in totally new territory and it's uncharted for
America since then, and it looks like there may be
a chance that we can decouple from Jewish influence. Let
me just be explicit about it, Pete. Do you think
does it look like it's going that way to you?
Or do you think we should just write it off
like Yaki did and say it's not going to happen.
We need to do something different.
Speaker 3: I think it is going that way, but I think
there's really only one way that it's going to accelerate,
and that's that Americans are going to have to accept
an identity as Americans. I was talking. I have an
episode dropping tomorrow with Paul Fahrenheit and John Slaughter, and
the whole episode is about the Confederate flag and that
the Confederate flag, when you look back in our history,
is really the only symbol of heritage America that exists.
And you know, we were we didn't say we said
that it would be you know, the Confederate flag would
be great if if we can make but it just
has to be something. It has to be a symbol.
It has to be that myth. We need that myth.
You know, when I first saw the whole woke Right thing,
I saw it as a myth war. And that's that's
what they're fighting against. When when Daryl went on went
on top and said that the that Churchill was the
villain of World War two, he was attacking myth and
Constantine Kisson's whole argument for why that's woke right is
because the left attacks our myths, they attack the myth
of you know that they tear down our statues, They
turned down all of this stuff. They want to get
rid of these myths and institute their own myths. Well,
it's if you're going to have control over a population,
over a land, mask you're going to need your own myths,
and if there's a myth that exists, you're going to
have to destroy that myth. And we have our founding myths.
The only problem is is that they've been suppled. They've
been supplanted by another myth, which is the War two,
the myth of the of the Civil rights the Civil
Rights Act. So yeah, it's if you want to say
it's woke right to attack myths. Yeah, but the myths
that I'm attacking have nothing to do with the original
myths of this country. These are myths that replaced the
the myth, the founding myths of this country. And these
myths come from outside America. They're not American himself.
Speaker 2: Look, this is this is viral. This is viral rewriting
of the DNA, so that the virus is replicated by
the perpetuation of our DNA. That's what they're doing by
putting these different myths in here. The trunks is literally
like overcooled.
Speaker 4: The understand they understand mysticism.
Speaker 2: Before you get into the mysticism thing, I want you to.
Speaker 4: Create a paradigm. It's not just. It's not just, it's
it is a entire The Jews are masters of this, Right,
they don't try and create binaries between two different facts
or two different political positions. Right, It's it's much deeper
than that, and that's why it has sticking power, it
has permanence, and it's also why people can't get out
of the It traps them in the in the diad
that they're set at. The purpose of dialectics is hermeticism, right,
it's the principle of polarity, is what they're doing. Right. So,
what they're basically doing is like we on the surface,
like when when what's his name, the ADL guy green
blaz a little gollum, Yeah, green Black. When he's saying like,
oh well, we've been playing a left right game, he
makes it sound like, oh well, we just wind up
the left and we wind up the right and we throw
it at each other. But it's a lot more than that.
These people are trapped in.
Speaker 1: They've the.
Speaker 4: Media and the kind of cultural apparatus has created entirely
different world views. Right, They're what they see as reality, Right,
what options they think are available to them at any
look at the pandemic? Right, this is this shows you,
like how too different, how how intricate paradigms are because
the solutions and options that our side thought was available
to us, Right, we're gonna we can do this thing,
we can do this other thing, We're can try different
types of like we're gonna go and like dig up
old bits of science and try and find other treatment.
Like these were options that we found that were available
to us. The other side none of those options, none
of those pathways were even it didn't even exist. They
were outside of their paradigm. So it not only affects
how you act in that particular culture or that particular
conflict diad right, but it affects how you maneuver, right,
like what things you will take in as immediately true
and immediately falls a problem gets dropped in your lamp.
Oh yeah, and if I control your paradigm, I know,
I know, like, oh, your house is on fire, Well,
paradigm A, all of these doors are closed off and
they're sealed off, right, And only these two doors over
here are available in paradigm B. Right, the exact opposite,
we got three door. Like, you control how people's minds move,
you control how they think, and then you can pretty
much control how they will interact with any particular new information.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, you get you get your mind. They trap
your mind in a thought prison, and then any maneuvering
that you do feels like you're maneuvering, you're out maneuvering
whatever's being thrown at you, but you're still trapped with
the confines at that thought prison. And uh yeah, so
what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Check check this out. Okay. A story came out today
by ABC ABC all over the country. Locals had this
that an Iranian national and Iranian America and hired came
to was hired by the Iranian Republican Guard and everything
to assassinate Trump. And it says that along that two
men were arrested in the United States for it, and
it was two Jews. And when they say what now,
where does the article say? And this is just a level,
This is a level of how you have to think
about these things because it's so it's so much propaganda
and it's so much brainwashing. So where is this Iranian?
He's in Tehran. This guy doesn't even exist. Probably this
guy doesn't even exist. These two Jews got caught in
an assassination plot. And the cover story is that there's
this guy someplace where they can't get him that is
pulling the strings on all of it. Yeah, okay, and
people will buy this one percent. And I bought the
story until it was like until I realized, oh, wait
a minute, this guy. They didn't arrest this guy. They're
saying he's in Tehran pulling the strings on these people.
How do you know, how do we know this person?
How do we know there's a real person? And this
is the kind of stuff that we're this is our
reality in our reality is fantasy. Our reality is fantasy.
Speaker 2: Half the country laps it up. Yeah, Stormy sent me that.
Stormy sent me that article.
Speaker 4: So it's the perfect example of it, right, And then
when certain people read that information, they're immediately going to
think certain certain thoughts to how we got to solve
the Iranian to solve the Iranian you know, puppeteer problem,
the Iranian occupied government.
Speaker 2: So in terms of in terms of this decoupling that
I it looks like there's potential for it to happen. Yeah,
there were conversations, there were conversations about this going on
in the fifties and sixties. How are we going to
do this? And I was reading realmwhere well, I was
well here's what I want to say. And me and
you've talked about this story. I was reading revel O Oliver,
who I keep mentioning because everyone has to read him.
He will change your fucking life and he will make
you realize how limp wristed and milk toast the right
wing is now compared to this guy he was. He
was denigrating the people on the right who were saying
that we need to split the Jews and basically like
split them on Communism versus Zionism and say get them
going after each other.
Speaker 4: They're saying it'll never work.
Speaker 2: Well back then, Oliver was saying it'll never work. But
back then they were talking about an active action that
they the right wing took to make that happen. I
think that that has happened, and they did it to
themselves when October seventh happened, because yeah, Peate shaking his head,
So I don't really need to expect they did it
to themselves.
Speaker 3: I've said since October seventh that there's a Jewish civil
war going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm bringing it up, though, is that
we have to be opportunistic with this. We need to
like to see this for what it is and take
the opportunity to jump in and ride that wave and
to cynically steer any of it towards us for our
benefit and our goals. One of the questions I asked
Stormy was like, well, what do we do with the
anti Zionist left. The only people I see out there
denouncing them are the Kosher right, And I think it's
because they're scared of them. Because I think they're scared
because a lot.
Speaker 1: Of the.
Speaker 2: Left who's going after Israel now are not Jewish. They're
the liberals who were in lockstep with everything the Jews
wanted up until now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: I think the I don't know that you can take
them both down at the same time. So you have
to like prioritize. Oh, you can't delegitimize, you know, And
to me, the first one you delegitimize is the War Party,
because the War Party is pulling pulling us into basically, yeah,
millions and millions and a billion people hating us and
also trying to pull us into war. War with Iran
is ridiculous. You can't win. You can't win a war
with Iran. I mean, it's just impossible.
Speaker 2: You can't Ukraine fighting a war against Russia is fucking insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so you know, the way I look at
it is that whatever you want to call that right
wing Lakud, these just war maniacs. These the settler armies
and everything. We want to destroy them, we want to make,
we want they we want. I would rather those left
wing lunatics, cultural lunatics take over Israel than the than
the right wingers. And one of the reasons why because eventually,
eventually those left wingers are going to be like, you know,
it's kind of racist that we don't let other people
in here. And as soon as Israel becomes a multi
cultural country where it's it's over, then the only thing
we have to worry about is, you know, like the
Bank of London, the City of London, places like that,
the centers of Jewish power and banking, and hopefully with
the and really the City of London, which I believe
Jerome Powell has been at war with now for two
two and a half years, three years. If you take
them down, basically, they're the ones who are who are
funneling all of the money, well except for you know,
for us, and you know, but they're the ones who
are basically guiding that whole project there. And when I
say City of London, I'm not talking about you know,
bad teeth and things. I'm talking about the one square
mile city of London in London that is completely independent
of England and is just basically a Jewish stronghold. It's
its own sovereign entity within the city of London, where
the where Herod's is, where all of these these bank
where world banks are, where all the dirty money in
the world is filtered through. And you know, Jerome Powell
has done a great job of cutting them off, and
you're going to war with them and destroy it, like
you know, weakening the Euro to the point where the
euro's on its last legs. And the British pound, I mean,
look at what the British pound is now. The British
pound is what a buck and a quarter for a
buck and a quarter compared to like one of our dollars.
The whole time I was growing up was two dollars
and it's and that has that's coming down. So the
way I see it is you have to break if
you break that right wing war party and banking party
through what Jerome Palell is doing and what's happening with
I don't know. I mean, they're just trying to go
to have fight seven front wars, which aren't going to
work if you break them. And the left, you know,
the say the city of Tel Aviv advertises the gayest
city on the planet. Those are the people who get power.
They're going to destroy the country. They'll Israel may not disappear,
but they're going to destroy their culture. And as soon
as they destroy their culture, they're basically like anywhere They're
like anywhere else. And I mean they could even be
friendly with with surrounding countries. Who the hell knows. I
would much rather have those wing lunatics running that than
the right than the war party. They will destroy. They
will do our job for us, just like just like
Lukuda is doing is by what. They can't even fight Hesbola.
The only way they can do anything in Lebanon is
to drop bombs. They can't go in, and you're not
going to take over a country unless you can go in.
You're not going to control a country unless you can
put troops in there and you can take over the government.
And I mean that's supposed to be illegal underworld under
international law, which I mean, we know they don't care
about but they're not going to be able to do that.
So what are they doing? I mean, they haven't defeated
hamas net. Yahoo does not want the hostages returned. He
doesn't want he doesn't want this peace. He doesn't want
October seventh investigated. And I mean there is this is
a perfect time and it could possibly this could possibly
be the decoupling. But yeah, I mean our guys need
to meme, you know, meme this into existence and talk
about it more. But the problem is is that people
there are so many people who are really uncomfortable talking
about this and talking about the destroy I mean destroying Israel,
destroying their government or having their government become something completely different,
more like global, a global homo type of government. And
then you have people on who are quote unquote on
our side, who are pro Israel, who are I mean,
who are Zionists?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, they don't know what they're talking about,
they don't know what they're doing. They're they're I mean
I think it's a platform. Yeah they have a platform.
But okay, so let me ask this. I think we're
probably I don't know how much more time we have
but not a lot. I think it is well and
I want I want you to rejoin, but I gotta
get this out. Those kosher right wingers that we're talking about,
they're cheering Trump, They're claiming it's them who got the victory.
So that's why a lot of like That's why I
like a lot of like white nat I mean, obviously
it's bullshit, but that's that's why a lot of white
nationalists who I don't agree with. By the way, I'm
with Thomas on this, even though I like a lot
of what they say. I think they're bad at politics.
Is the reason I don't agree with them. They don't
know how to do politics. It's not that I disagree
with their platform anyway. They'll point to the Kosher right
celebrating Trump to the point where they try to claim
the victory for themselves as say, see, he's not our guy.
Those guys love him. If those guys love him, it
must be because he's going to give them something that
goes against our interests. I think they're wrong, but there's
a point there that I think needs to be refuted,
and based on what Pete just said, i'd like to
hear his response to that. Like, why is the Kosher
Right celebrating Trump? Well, they just whatever you want to
say about it.
Speaker 3: They they honestly believe that they got they got him elected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do.
Speaker 3: I mean that, that's that's it. They honestly believe that
they got him elected. And maybe they did help. Maybe
they put something, maybe they meme some things into into
the air, and maybe there were some some things, you know,
there was some kind of help there. But what have
we seen from Trump ever since? He since for Tuesday,
it was five days ago. Today he says Pompeo and
Haley have nothing to do with this.
Speaker 2: So funny how it flies in the face of what
Curtis Yarvin just wrote. I don't know if you read it.
I like him way better than you two guys do.
But his whole article was like, look, this is fucking
Pompeo's guy. Pompeo is Trump's boy. You want to be
with him. And then two days later Trump comes out
and says Pompeo's out.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: Art is he out? Jared Kushner's out that efficient and
miss that. They said that. I mean they said that
earlier this year, back in February, they said that if
Trump wins, Jared Kushner is not gonna have a I
saw that.
Speaker 2: But there's people this week saying he's still around.
Speaker 4: He's using that, he's using that quote from uh, that
that sketchy, that sketchy Jerusalem Times article from Utica.
Speaker 3: The one where they the one where they like just
ripped out like one couple of lines from the Litnick
interview and didn't didn't take him in in context.
Speaker 2: I love, I loved uh Jerusalem Times. Me and Stormy
it's the funniest newspaper on the planet. Me and Stormy
referenced it in our Ukraine episode because uh, they were
literally calling deserters from Ukraine. They were literally referring to
them as refugees and like war refugees. And I'm like, dude,
these fucking people literally deserted the minute Russia invaded, and
this paper is calling and fled to Israel, which is
illegal under you Cranian law to have a citizenship in Israel,
and the Jerusalem Times is calling them war refugees. I'm like,
this paper is fucking only unintentionally hilarious. Of course, of course, anyway, Pete,
I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, and It's what I've said. It's what
I've been saying, you know, since like February. It's like,
you know, Maria Madelson pledges to give a bunch of money,
doesn't give it all. Yeah, then you have all of
these guys. Then you have all of these guys from
tech who are coming in there, you know, and I
mean David Sachs. David Sachs puts out on his you know,
and David Sachs, a Jew from South South Africa, he
puts out on his Twitter account yesterday a button that
says neo kon and it's got a slash heart, and
he's like, no neocons in this administration.
Speaker 4: I mean, what is a neo kon?
Speaker 1: What is it really?
Speaker 3: Neo konski? I mean, it's what Michael Jones says, is
neo konsk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Israeli firsts Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he So what I've been saying is if the
if guys like Musk, if the tech guys, if the
little tech guys are the ones who have more, they're
the ones who are whispering in Trump's ear, They're the
ones who are influencing Trump, Moore, then we have a
shot because if exactly listening to. If he starts listening
to the people around him who may have Israeli sympathies
or who are Zionists, then we you know, we don't.
But so far, and it we're only five days into
this thing, he's basically rejecting all of these people. The
I don't know enough about his chief of staff, Susie Wiles.
I mean, I know her dad was a Christian, Pat
summer Ale, you know, because I grew up. I grew
up watching the Giants and he was like the announcer
for the for the New York Giants, So I know
who Pat summerl is.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: He was a Christian. I don't know what her sympathies
are towards towards Israel. I'm sure if I really tried to,
you know, dig deep into it. But so far, it
looks like the the neo cons are getting pushed out.
And if the neo cons get pushed out and you
get people like you start naming like people who appear
on Judge Knapp's show, start you know, you start getting
like Ambassador Freeman or Ambassador the Jeffrey Sachs, or you
start getting meher Scheimer. If you start getting you know McGregor.
If these names start popping up as advisors and things
like that, well, I mean, we we have a chance.
It's just a matter of the first time around, it
seemed like Trump decided made his decisions on personnel by
the last person who whispered in his ear. So you
basically you who's whispering in his ear?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Now, that's the only question. And as far as these
you know, the kosher right thinking that they got him elected,
go ahead and think that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let him.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine, I'm fine with people being delusion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about waiting for.
Speaker 2: But I want you guys to keep going. I just
want to throw out here real quick. Pete mentioned Miriam
Adelson pledging however much money, and she didn't give all that.
A lot of people point to that. A lot of
people point to that to say, oh, look, Trump is
completely owned by the Jews. That's what I fucking see
all the time. He's completely owned by the jew Well,
hang on, Elon. Elon Musk's pack gave like one hundred
million dollars more than the Alsens did, so I don't
even really want to hear.
Speaker 4: Tim Mellan. Tim Mellon donated one hundred and seventy million
as a single individual. How come like that's never talked
about anywhere nobody until like a week ago.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like then we can have people, and
then we can have people like on the Kosher right
or you know, just the complete lunatics who believe that
the Jews control everything that they're you know that we're
basically everything is Jewish, Jewish puppetry, including you know, Elon
must buy on Twitter or whatever.
Speaker 4: Every time I see it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the but you know, they'll just say, oh, you
know that Tim Mellon is, oh, look at his family,
his you know, he he had relatives that funded the
whole LSD experiments in the sixties and things like that.
It's like every fucking family has, you know. It almost
seems like Tim Mellon is like the black sheep of
the family because he doesn't have anything with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I mean, if you were a WASP guy,
a young man like you went into intelligence, that that
was it. You Like, you did your you did your
state in the military, either army or Navy, or you know,
if you're lonely, you did Marines, and then you went
into intelligence. Like my granddad, same exact thing. Did Marines
did the oss right? Uh, his son did the exact
same thing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: All of the other families that you know they were
associated with did the exact same thing. Everything from like
families what my great grand my great granddad did that
great granddad went into after a stint in the military,
went into diplomacy. Granddad granddad was the guy that not
to dogs myself. He's the guy that had the heart attack.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he yeah.
Speaker 4: We we go me and the we go way back.
But to what you were saying about the factions that
are in or the liver, I wouldn't call them like
levers of power. They kind of their support structures. You
have the neocons, the City of London, the left, and
those are pretty much the factions of power outside of
outside of us because now apparently our ideas go a
lot farther than anybody on our side really gives us.
This is something we're terrible at taking credit for our
own victories. Like you have the smartest, wealthiest, most dynamic
individuals in the country looking to our sphere for i mean,
for guidance, like we we are the they're outsourcing their
thinking they've found people that they trust, right, and they're like,
all right, well give me the synopsis on the X.
And we still act like we're losers, Like we still
act like, you know, we we haven't gotten out of
like we've got beaten up so bad in twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, right like the hard suppression. We
still go around Twitter like we're lepers, Like our guy
owns the thing. Now, we're still pointing out the shed.
Speaker 3: I pointed out on an old Glory Club live stream
that like every time that Elon had in the past
year or year and a half has had to you know,
like to go to Auschwitz. As soon as he's done
with that, the very first tweet is always something signaling
to our side, like he'll put out his sweet about
like white replacement or something like that. And yeah, I
mentioned that, and I said he's signaling to us, and
someone's like, oh, that's clown thinking. I'm like, no, you're
a fucking loser. You're a politics.
Speaker 2: Elon knows how to play the game and some people
just don't.
Speaker 4: Aren't even the same thing, the same thing with the
same thing with Trump. What was Bill Clinton's specialty anybody
that dealt with Bill Clinton said, Bill Clinton would sit
down and talk to you like you were the most
interesting person in the world. He was listening, right, And
everybody thought after they went in to talk to Bill
Clinton that Bill Clinton agreed with them and that Bill
Clinton was on their side. And now you look at
what Trump's doing as soon as he got into power,
and he didn't want he didn't want to fight with
the neo cons. Oh yeah, sure, come on stage as
soon as he wins the election. Yeah, you guys aren't
going to be no. Sorry, you think he.
Speaker 2: Forgets what John Bolton did to him?
Speaker 4: Like, well, do you know what? You know what Mike
Pump When everybody's trying to tell me that Mike.
Speaker 3: Maybe and Yahoo did to him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I was. He was in the back
of my mind too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am from my little theory that you know,
I think I you know, started like screaming about in
the astral chat that the day after it happened. Is
that bibing that and Yahoo tried to kill Trump at Pennsylvania?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: And who was?
Speaker 2: Who was?
Speaker 4: Who are the people that that people are pointing to now,
Department of Homeland Security? Right, they took over the Secret
Service that day. Right, they had more DHS people than
there were Secret Service people. All of the dedicated Secret
Service people went over to go help with missus, you know,
Madam President, Doctor Joe Biden, and it was all DHS
people on the ground. So what did Cynthia McKinney tell
us about what DHS was? Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney
on the house floor were famous for two things. Well,
the tag team between the two of them were famous
for two things. Right. Cynthia's said, Israel did nine to
eleven in fact, and she said that the I can't
remember how she described them, but basically, the Zionists like
the dual citizen class, right that we're responsible that played
a part in nine to eleven. We're trying to set
up homeland security to basically embed them, basically embed the
neo cons into every aspect of the intelligence z apparatus,
the military apparatus, and the law enforced nappers so you
couldn't tear them out, right, they want, and DHS does that.
If you look at DHS's organization chart, they have offices
in everything from the NSA to US Marshals to FBI
to CIA, TODIA, the Defense Intelligence. They're literally embedded everywhere. Right,
she was one hundred percent right. Department of Homeland Security
was the same fucking guys that did Project Movement, the
same dual citizens that gave you nine to eleven. Right,
Project American Century guys set up Department Homeland Security to
embed these embed Zionists inside the inside the intelligence and
law enforcement apparatus with the hub so they can coordinate
all these things. Before it was like, oh, we got
to go talk to you know, we got to go
meet at the wherever the synagogue's eight and wherever they
hang out, right, sorry, they you know, then they would
have to like meet and then they'd have to coordinate.
Like all right, So you tell your cousin who works
at uh, you know, CIA, and you tell your cousin like, no,
DHS gave them a hub. They had an office now
right now they whatever the central hub is is where
the command structure is, right, is where the power is
in any organization. We've got a corporation, Look at you know,
government where you know, look at that. Look at the
thing that has spokes going into everything, whatever has the
most spokes going out and other things is the thing
that has the power, right, and that's what DHS is.
DHS was all over the fucking Trump assassination attempt. And
you know who was the only person that didn't call
Trump after he got assassinated. Fucking President of Palestine. Nobody
even knows that motherfucker exists. He called Trump after he
got it, after the assassination. BB NETANYAHUO did not. All Right,
anybody that's listening probably thinks this is fucking crazy. Just
type into whatever search browser. You can even use the
shitty ones like Google, whatever, Donald Trump. The word quote
Benjamin nettan Yahoo. The very first thing that pop up,
Actually the first three or four articles will be a
quote from Trump. He find me Trump swearing on TV
good luck. He never does that. He never swears. Fucking
Kamala Harris wears more than Donald Trump does. Fucking Joe
Biden swears more than Donald Trump does. And Donald Trump,
on an interview with PBS sixty minutes, said like that.
For some reason, the presenter CB of sixty minutes decides
to ask a guy who's not president anymore what his
relationship is with a foreign leader that currently is president,
which makes no sense, but like, what's your relationship with
Benjaminette Yahoo Da da d D his word Trump's words exactly,
fuck him. Fuck that guy. He stabbed me in the back.
We had a deal. I did everything for Israel, and
he stabbed me in the back. He was the first person.
All right, Like we're talking like peak fraud the day
after the election, like the like you still had mail
in ballots, like the chaos was, like nobody in America
really knew who was president the day after twenty twenty.
But Benjaminette Yaho called Joe by publicly, right, because that
basically is the signal, that's the endorsement that this is
the this is the guy that we the foreign country
is recognizing as president. Right, he called Benja, he called
Joe Biden first to congratulate him. Right, Because hey, whatever
Ryan Dawson proves rather conclusively to anybody's paying attention, there
wasn't a Hunter Biden laptop. There was three Hunter Biden laptops. Three, right,
so we know Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump got one
where the other two go. Well, according to Hunter Biden
on video, when he's in bed with his fucking his
brother's widow, you know, smoking crack. Well, some Ukrainian hookers
stole the other two in Las Vegas. Where do you
think those laptops ended up? Well, So you got your
guy that you made a deal with.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean in that video you're talking about,
Hunter explicitly says I have been caught in sexual blackmail.
Speaker 4: That is what he literally says that in the video.
Yes he yes, I forgot about that. Yes he does,
he does say that. So who do you?
Speaker 1: Who do you?
Speaker 4: If you're Benjamin and Yaho, you got your two different
horses you can run on. You got to deal with
this guy. You think you got a good relationship your son,
and you know his son in law is your mole,
you know, like you got a good setup, but you
still have to be nice to him. And it's a deal,
Like it's two parts, like I gotta do something for you, you
gotta do something for me. Or you have this guy
whose entire life you can ruin named Joe Biden, Right,
you have evidence of his corruption like all of that.
The whole family could go to jail, along with most
of the people in Washington, which is good because now
they're accomplices and now they have to do this. And
in this instance, unlike Donald Trump. You own the media,
so that story whatever, you know that that's going to
get around, right, So that's much more effective. You're going
to back that horse. Because where is Benjamin Nett election?
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the reason the prison.
Speaker 4: Is where he's at. That's where bb net Yaho is
at the time of twenty twenty election. Right, the criminal
proceeding against Benjamin et Yahoo is coming to an end.
Everybody knows that the trial that the Benjamin Noah who
court case, right the the criminal case got put on
hold when he got elected. What got put on hold,
particularly the case is over. It was sentencing that got
put on hold. Sentencing. So that means this guy if
he steps out of power because right now, because he
just basically let all those hostages die because a surprise,
we actually don't care about the hostages. We just want
a bunch of land and we want to you know,
we're going to a steal all of God and the
West Bank. Then we're going to go start a bunch
of wards their neighbors. Then we're gonna get America to
come and wipe out Lebanon and Iran in one fell swoop,
and they will make greater Israel for us.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 4: I'm the greatest. You can't be mad about all that
criminal shit that I just got convicted of, and you
don't want to send me to jail anymore, right, Or
you can let all those hostages die and you can
have less than eleven percent approval rating. Right, Benjamin and
Yao is the most hated man in Israel right now.
Lacud has no constituency. Like Thomas and I talked briefly
on Pete's election livestream with the old Glory Clubs, there
is no native constituency for Lacud anymore. Benjamin and Yahouse
takes one step out of office and he's in prison.
His son's a faggot that lives in Miami. Right, he
has no legacy. It's over with. Everything that he built
will be torn down and he will be thrown in
a box and forgotten about until he dies unless he
starts a war. Donald Trump is a guy that you
cannot let in the White House. Then if Donald Trump
gets in the White House after you stabbed him in
the back, you are not getting your war. And as
Thomas laid out the conflict in Ukraine again, anybody that
is listening, please go check out Thomas's and Pete's conversations
on the war in Syria and what the war in
Syria is actually about, right, and with a conflict in
Ukraine and Russia is actually about because Donald Trumps stopping
the war in Ukraine tells you exactly what he's gonna
do with the war, and I ran right, he understands
what the actual game is. So if he doesn't want
war in Russia and Ukraine, he doesn't want war in Iran.
It's the same conflict. So that means Benjamin et Yaho
was in between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 3: He is fucked.
Speaker 4: And at the same time I find it funny, which
is why I agree with Pete said. You asked Pete
to stack rank the targets for you. Who does the
right hit first? Do we hit the neocons? Do we
hit the finance people in the city of London? Do
we hit the left? In which order do we attack
these people? And I agree with Pete's assessment has to
be the neocons?
Speaker 1: What do they do?
Speaker 4: What did they do? What did they do in nineteen sixteen,
or sorry, in nineteen fifteen, what did they do in
nineteen forty? Right? How come we had the most powerful
man in the United States. We had the chairman of GM,
Chairman of Ford, the DuPont family, the Morgan family all right,
the Rockefeller family, the head of the Republican Party, Father Cochlan,
and all the Catholics. Right, we had Hughey p Long
and all the Southern Democrats. We had the chairman the
fucking Democratic Party and the borner president. They're all on
the same team. How do you break that up? How
do you stop that? A war? That's how you stop it.
And that's the only thing that I'll save them now
is a war. The reason I I grabbed a note powder,
you guys were talking, because I wanted to make sure
I could hit these, hit these all because the city
of London, what Pete was talking about. That's set up
that they have, that you know has They've basically been
vamporizing the United States, you know, citizenry for sixty years
to support literally the American citizen has ground up into
a fine paste, mixed with a viscous fluid and turned
into an oil to grease the wheels of global capitalism.
Globalism writ large that's coming to an end. The sovereign
debt collapse like I'm sorry what Pete was talking about.
With the currencies. If a currency moves three cents in
a year, that is a huge fucking deal. Right, they
don't lose a quarter of their value in six months.
Right at the same time that the bond market's collapsing,
they've basically been using hypothecated fake money. I'm not going
to go into how they do it, but they use
they print a bunch of fake money through a bunch
of fake debt offshore federal reserves not even in control.
This don't have any fucking saying it, and they use
that debt to smush the futures contracts and suppress the
price of commodities. Right, who produces the commodities, commodity producing nations,
that's what they do, right, So you can basically thumb
the whole Third world down extract all their resources with
these fake dollars. That's breaking right the left. The left
is in tatters. The left is trying to go be
nice to us. So Pete is one hundred percent right
on that order of attack. And the reason that we're
gonna win is because when all those fucking Jews were like, yes,
this is the media landscape, we controlled the media landscape.
It is a landscape. It's territory. It's the most important territory.
The digital landscape is the new media landscape. It is
the high ground. It's the most important place. We control
all the good territory.
Speaker 2: Now, I agree, I agree. I gotta get going, Pete,
I want. I'll give you the last word. If you
have a.
Speaker 4: Response, please, I talked for Bray too long.
Speaker 2: Oh it was good though, I agree with it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm looking at an article from yesterday and it
says that the fallout over net and Yahoo sacking.
Speaker 2: Galan, Yeah, I'm glad that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Israel is only projected to secure twenty four seats,
so basically, in one hundred and twenty seat canesse it,
they're looking at just having forty nine seats. If elections
were held today, the opposition block is sixty one seats.
I need to find out. The opposition parties, by contrast,
appear to beginning momentum. The National Unity Party led by
Bernie Gantz, Yeah, by Benny Gantz, and you know so
that yeah, who challenges the extremists, the Religious Zionism Party,
the even extremists. They appear to be struggling. So it.
It appears that the quote unquote right in Israel is
falling apart. And that's the best thing that can happen
for us because it takes war off the table. And
it also it's like a big fuck you to the
city of London, and it just it pushes Israel that
much closer closer to becoming just another gigantic, global home, global,
homogeneous state where you know, it's it's racist if we
don't let these people, and it's racist if we don't
make them citizens. It's racist if we don't let them
have the full rights of every Israeli And that is
what that Yeah, that is eventually what's going to be.
I think it's going to be the downfall of Israel,
not that Israel will disappear, because we don't want Israel
to disappear. We want them to become something else, because
we want Jews to have some place to go when
more people start noticing and noticing and noticing and noticing,
and they're just going to not whenever that happens, they
are tempted. At least now they have a place to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the problem with that is they don't want
to go there. Yaki points this out. He says, Zionism
is a huge sigh up because nobody fucking wants to
go to Israel. They want to come to America. And
when they started fleeing Eastern Europe and all those places,
they didn't go to Israel. They came to America.
Speaker 3: Well that changed that, that changed over the over the decades.
A lot of people like to a lot of Jews
like to go to Israel. They like to have that out.
They want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeahs an out.
Speaker 4: He was talking about specific if you take it away.
Speaker 3: Then they stayed, and then then they're going there a state.
Speaker 4: How do they behave? How do they behave? Because David
Sachs I think Yaki was right about race. Not a
lot of people want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's a major whole nother conversation.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I mean, do you think David Sachs
is thinking like a Jew? Do you think Howard Litnik
is thinking like a Jew? They just moved for thought
like that we can all think about because I mean
they seem to be okay. Like David Sachs must know
that if he gets his policy wish is, the state
of Israel could not exist. There's a chance it could
not exist because he doesn't know all the intricacies that
we're talking about, right, So all he knows is that
they're at war with literally they started a war with
all of their neighbors, right, and that seven countries want
to come kill him, and he's okay with the people
that want to rush in and send us people the
only people that like, frankly, we are the only people
that could save Israel and the only people that would
want that to happen. David Sachs drummed out of government,
So like, where is this guy's head at?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to arbitrarily cut the conversation off,
but I gotta get going fame. This was far more
fruitful than I expected, because I didn't think we'd be able.
Speaker 3: To get what's that book, Hitler Democrat by Leon de Grell.
It's rare. Buddy of mine is doing Simon stock copies
of it.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, I know nothing about that book. I
know who Leander Grell is.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: By so we got to Stormy Week, we got to
a lot more than I expected us to be covered
almost every point I wanted to. But there's a lot
more to talk about. So I hope you guys are
willing to come back and this is crazy. Absolutely yeah,
happy to have you on for the first time.
Speaker 4: Just think, no Jewish kingdom has lasted more than eighty years,
what seventy six years now ing U S. S.