WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.400 My Billy Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this Tuesday afternoon in 2 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.359 the Tri State Reds Baseball kicks off about six oh five. 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.599 Lousy game last night, and as an old pitcher myself 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:18.800 who pitched for Thomas Funeral Home, Deer Park, Ponykeg and 5 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:22.239 Zava University, it appears obvious to me that Chase Burns 6 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.800 was tipping his pitches much like Randy Johnson did. But 7 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.480 he didn't have Randy Johnson's stuff. That's the problem. I 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:31.559 think he got one out, gave up about sixteen thousand 9 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.000 runs Chase Burns. But someone's got to get to Chase. 10 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:36.240 I could tell whether it was a fastball or an 11 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:38.119 off speed pitch by the way he held his hand 12 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.159 inside of his glove. If I could figure it out, 13 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.600 guess what I think the other team, the Red Sox, 14 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:45.119 can figure it out. All the action starts about six 15 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.719 oh five tonight. Let's see what occurs. Jonan, you and 16 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.479 I now Senator Steve Huffman from the Tips City area. 17 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:54.000 I love Tip City things a little north of Dayton, 18 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:55.920 and he's one of the great senators in the state 19 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:56.479 of Ohio. 20 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:57.359 As you may know. 21 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:03.119 By midnight last night, Governor Veto sixty seven, the all 22 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.439 time high vetos inside the omnibus spending package for the 23 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.560 next two years. And now the House and the Senate's 24 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.120 got to decide if they can override the veto and Joan, 25 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.879 you and I now are Senator Steve Huffman and Senator 26 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:20.319 welcome again to the bill. Cunningham shows just procedurally here 27 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.879 we are a little bit a little bit afternoon on Tuesday. 28 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.959 How much time do you have to override the veto? 29 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.040 Can they be overridden? Give the American people a full report. 30 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:36.400 Well, the Constitution says that any VITA override has to 31 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.439 originate in the chamber that the bill originated in. So 32 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.480 this was is a House bill, House Bill ninety six, 33 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:48.599 So the House has to initiate any veto override, and 34 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.200 it can go to the end of this General Assembly. 35 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:58.280 So till the Mike d Wines last day and twenty 36 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.000 six the December thirty first, twenty six, we could override 37 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:02.480 that detO. 38 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.200 So we got a year and a half, you got plenty. 39 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:08.560 So there's no emergency this morning, this afternoon, tonight, tomorrow morning. 40 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:09.680 There's no emergency. 41 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:12.000 That is correct. 42 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:16.439 It is just making good policy and deciding which one 43 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.240 of the sixty seven, if any, that we want to overturn. 44 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.439 Well, I understand it takes sixty in the House, twenty 45 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.719 in the Senate, which is about a little more than 46 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.840 two thirds of each house. The Republicans control everything. Let's 47 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:30.840 talk about specifics. The governor did not veto the part 48 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.039 of the unplaim funds that give to the Browns, like 49 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.639 six hundred million dollars in order to start a project 50 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.479 in southern Cayhua County. The Bengals are kind of left 51 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.520 out from the larch at this point. What is your position, 52 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:45.520 your view as a powerful state senator about the Browns 53 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.080 getting that kind of money fund unplaying funds and the 54 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:49.599 Bengals at this point getting nothing. 55 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.080 Well, it doesn't say the Bengals don't get anything. It 56 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.000 says it gives them an opportunity in the future going 57 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:01.000 forward to ask for those unplayed funds, and it sets 58 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.319 up a set of rules and guidelines that they can 59 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:10.400 or the soccer team or if theaters and other things 60 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.520 can also look at getting those funds in the future. 61 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:15.719 It's kind of like down here though, you're kind of 62 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.520 halfway in a sense. But if you're a Bengals fan, 63 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.840 as many of us are, we feel as if we're 64 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.400 not being treated the same as the Browns. But having 65 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.199 dealt with this issue the last couple of weeks, that's 66 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.960 not the case correct that the Bengals have the ability 67 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.719 to apply. By the way, there's no deal at this point. 68 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:33.960 I know the media went nuts, but there's an LOI 69 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.800 that has about another month ago for the two parties 70 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.360 that come together, and at this point there's no deal. 71 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.879 So it would be required that the Bengals to County 72 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:43.599 whatever NFL have a deal. 73 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:44.879 Deal, then go to the state. 74 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.400 And so for those who say, wait a minute, you're 75 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.759 treating the Bengals unfairly, what would you say. 76 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.000 I would disagree. Like I said, it sets it in motion. 77 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:58.960 The deal in Cincinnati is not fully daked, right, but 78 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:02.360 one right, it is fully baked, yes, and it gives 79 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:04.400 opportunities going forward for them. 80 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:05.879 Who makes the decision. 81 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.800 Let's say the deal comes together by I don't know 82 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.719 August first, there is a deal, deal and there's a 83 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.319 missing three hundred million dollars. I would think that's not 84 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.600 a checks in the mail situation. Who actually makes the 85 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.560 deal whether to give the Bengals to the county the 86 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.920 three hundred and sixty million. Who makes that decision, I'm 87 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.639 not sure, but I believe it's the Department of Commerce 88 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.480 that would make sure that all the ducks are in 89 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:34.000 a row and everything's in line to make that decision, 90 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.959 and then it would ultimately go to the Controlling Board 91 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:38.639 for approval. 92 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.040 All right, So let's deal with the flat tax. 93 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:44.639 If you make twenty six thousand dollars a year or less, 94 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.600 you pay no state income tax. In fact, if you 95 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.480 make one hundred thousand dollars a year, on the first 96 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.120 twenty six thousand you pay zero, and then after that 97 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.800 it's a flat tax. And the governor did not veto 98 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.639 last night the flat tax. Do you like that idea 99 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:57.959 or not? 100 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:03.680 Well, I introduced that bill six years ago, I think 101 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.079 in every General Assembly since. So yes, I like that. 102 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.519 It gives about one point four billion dollars in tax relief. 103 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.000 And I know what people are going to say that 104 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.079 you know it's for the rich. But this is the 105 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.560 next step to progress to a zero tax, to start 106 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:28.120 marching that two point seventy five down every two years 107 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.360 in the budget till we can get to zero. 108 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.560 Let's deal with the issue of the real estate taxes 109 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.079 with so many in our community is very concerned about 110 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.240 and I'm sure in Miami County the same situation is true, 111 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.800 that people are outraged about the evaluations of their property 112 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.639 and the fact that every time they turn around, it's 113 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.240 an in co it or an implicit value they have 114 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.600 they don't have in their hands. So if you have 115 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.439 a home worth two hundred thousand dollars and the county 116 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.279 comes in and says every three years and now it's 117 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.920 worth three hundred thousand dollars, you might say, well, where's 118 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.199 the where's my one hundred one thousand dollars? I don't 119 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.040 have the money. It's in co it, it's implicit, it's 120 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.639 a passive thing. I don't have the money. I haven't 121 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.639 sold it. And so when the real estate tax thing 122 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.600 gets on the ballot, which likely will be next May, 123 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:14.519 I believe I don't think they'll have time get the 124 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.519 signatures by November. And there's a two line entry should 125 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.160 we eliminate state real estate taxes? Most people are going 126 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:23.319 to vote yes. And if that happens, now we've got 127 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.639 a crisis. And so this is somewhat speculative. If it 128 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:28.319 gets on the ballot, which I think, well, I'm not 129 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.680 going to sign the petition. I'm going to encourage people 130 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.680 not to sign it. But if they do, so be it. 131 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.680 If the state eliminates real estate taxes and the state 132 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:39.600 eliminates state income taxes, one might say, where do we 133 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.120 get the money to run government? 134 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.959 I agree, and I agree with you, I'm not going 135 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.439 to support to getting rid of that ballot initiative. And 136 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:54.560 you know, a couple of weeks ago, you had Representative 137 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.240 Thomas on that and I was listening, and you found 138 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.600 it found it hard not to laugh when he got 139 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.639 to the point he said, well, what's the local sales 140 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.800 tax going to look like? And he said eighteen to 141 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:10.600 twenty percent? And you found it hard to keep your 142 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:14.600 emotions and as you felt that was so funny. So well, the. 143 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.720 Reason it's bad is that because we're a border community 144 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:22.759 and Miami County Little is not too far from Indiana. 145 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:26.480 But here in Cincinnati, I'm as close to Covington as 146 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:28.759 I am the King's Island. I can just go to 147 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.959 Covington and buy a car, buy furniture, do my commerce 148 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:32.759 in Covington. 149 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.759 I don't have to. I don't have to buy anything 150 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:35.959 in Hamilton County. 151 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:40.959 I agree, and that's why I don't think that it 152 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.120 will pass. But we do need to get property tax relief, 153 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:48.920 and you know what the governor vetoed here. So it 154 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.399 started in the House in the Senate at thirty percent, 155 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.279 and the Senate said, no, it's fifty percent. That a 156 00:07:55.399 --> 00:08:00.240 school district can only have thirty forty fifty percent of 157 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:04.360 their operating on cash. There's school districts out there that 158 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.319 carry one hundred, one hundred and twenty five hundred and fifty. 159 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:08.959 Percent in cash. 160 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.240 And you know, there was one one school board member 161 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.399 testified in the Senate and said, you know, we made 162 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.000 eight million dollars in interest last year in the cash 163 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.959 sitting in the bank, and the senator asking, so shouldn't 164 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.680 that interest back to the tax payers? Can't they have 165 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.959 it in their bank account? And to me, that's really 166 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.519 powerful to say why are you hoarding all this money? 167 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.440 And there's sometimes good readings to put a new rough 168 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:37.000 on and pay cash or build a new building or something, 169 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.200 and the bill would have allowed for that, but just 170 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.080 for these schools to hoard billions and billions of dollars 171 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.200 when we could provide tax relief at thea vita, I 172 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.200 think that is more likely one of the very first 173 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.360 one that's that's going to get getting overhead. And when 174 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:52.639 we come back in September. 175 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.440 For those who may not be inside baseball, the bill 176 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.639 allows for forty percent carry over. Anything more than that, 177 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.120 which means that let's say the school district budget to say, 178 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.279 just come up with, say ten million dollars a year, 179 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.279 and they collect fourteen million dollars from the taxpayers. They 180 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.279 put the four million dollars into a savings account, and 181 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.039 they spend the ten million, and then that forty percent, 182 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.919 that four million dollars is sitting out there. Then the 183 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.480 next year they spend another ten million dollars, they collect 184 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.039 fourteen Suddenly they have eight million dollars in the savings account. 185 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.279 And I think Senator Huffman, your point is why not 186 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:29.000 return that eight million dollars to the taxpayer instead of 187 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:33.240 getting into a savings account. And you and the lawmakers said, okay, 188 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.159 the most can carry over is forty percent, no more 189 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.399 than that. There are some districts they carry over one 190 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:42.120 hundred percent. And the governor vetoed that, which means that 191 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.639 you're pretty sure you can override that veto and restrain 192 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.159 these school boards at forty percent. 193 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:47.799 Is that correct? 194 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.519 Yeah, But we also put in there that you can 195 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.000 put money in a special fund for a capital improvement 196 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:57.879 so that you know you need a new world and 197 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.240 you want to pay cash. 198 00:09:59.360 --> 00:09:59.679 You can. 199 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.279 We aren't storing some money in that special accounts and 200 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.879 be able to do that, and you know that rewards, 201 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:10.120 you know, you know, financially smart school districts that that 202 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.039 need things and don't want to go to the voters 203 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.399 and go get a new levee to pay for that 204 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.320 that new rough or other things. 205 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.879 I live in a community with fourteen special levees. Ham 206 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.879 in the County has fourteen special levees for everything from 207 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.120 mentally retarded to which is a term they use, not me, 208 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.879 those are mentally challenged. Also, the welcome wagon, the food, 209 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:34.000 We have an indignt levy at UC Medical Center. We 210 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.919 have free lawyers, we have free doctors. We also have 211 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.120 library funds and the zoo fund, and senior citizens a 212 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.360 welcome We've got everything going on. And I think if 213 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.480 you're in Miami County, for example, you may not have 214 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.679 all these special levees. We have them here. Now let's 215 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.600 get on to hamp in marijuana. There were many concerns 216 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.519 over the last several months. That's certain of these so 217 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.279 called CBD products are being sold in like service stations 218 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:01.080 are being sold popping up everywhere by hamp CBD, et cetera, 219 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:02.639 these pills, all that kind of stuff. 220 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.080 And you have a bill. 221 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:06.960 What's the status of your hemp CBD bill? 222 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:13.080 Well, so it goes along with marijuana. Senate Bill fifty 223 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.440 six that the Senate passed out was to kind of 224 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:21.840 reform some of those things. Public consumption, driving, smoking in 225 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.879 a moving vehicle was fifty six eighty six. Senibel eighty 226 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.639 six was all about himp passingly out of the Senate 227 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.720 two two and a half months ago, you know, sitting 228 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.039 in the house in the House in there with and 229 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:40.519 tried to combine the two, and I thought we had 230 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.240 an agreement on hemp. We hadn't talked about it in 231 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.960 a couple of months, and we were hashing out the 232 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:51.360 final details of the marijuana and last week they were 233 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:56.120 scheduled for a vote, and they've figured out they didn't 234 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.600 have the votes because about fifteen members twenty members of 235 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:04.200 the Republican Talkus feels that there's a different direction to 236 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:08.679 go in, meaning that the Senate bill would put camp 237 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:13.399 products that are intoxicating than dispensaries because they're intoxicating, right, 238 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.000 And these House members felt that it would be better 239 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:24.120 to leave in retail stores with a verification of twenty 240 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:25.080 one and over all. 241 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:28.240 Right, so that's still pending. Let's talk about public consumption marijuana. 242 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:32.360 I've had many complaint, especially in Cincinnati, walking around Washington 243 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:35.799 Park where my family has deep inroads into the soil 244 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.799 in Washington Park, Cincinnati, publicly consuming marijuana. It happens all 245 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.080 the time. I don't know about your neck of the woods, 246 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.960 but in urban areas behind if you're behind a car 247 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.039 with the windows open, you smell it. You can be 248 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.279 in a restaurant somebody walks in and you smell it. 249 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:55.879 You can walk around downtown Cincinnati smoking openly marijuana, no 250 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:56.840 problem whatsoever. 251 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:58.720 No police stay a damn thing. 252 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.639 So the argument about public consumption is that a canard 253 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.519 is it something that's real because you can't allegedly publicly 254 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.960 consume it now, but it's not enforced. And I don't 255 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.279 know why I have a law. If law makers and 256 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.639 the police refuse to enforce a known law because that 257 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.600 their political leadership tell them not to do it, we 258 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.879 live in a city where the mayor and the city 259 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.679 manager both tell the police do not enforce certain laws. 260 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:31.559 Isn't that the recipe for chaos? 261 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.879 It's certainly, it certainly is. And I agree with you that. 262 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.679 To me, I don't care if you public consume a 263 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.600 gummy bear or brownie. It doesn't affect me. It doesn't 264 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.360 affect children, I don't care. But the combustion one and 265 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.759 the smell of it and everything like that. And to 266 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.480 explain to your small children what marijuana is and what 267 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.960 it's doing I think is bad. And so you know 268 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:02.639 eighty six is you could only do it on your 269 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.480 private premise, in your house, in your backyard. 270 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.480 Sure, if you're an adult, if I do it privately. 271 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.840 And another thing, you're a doctor, you're a physician. Medical 272 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.080 College of Ohio, University of Toledo. I got my law 273 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.080 degree there. And there's just a sense that there's a 274 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:20.759 breakdown of law and order. That broken windows theory applied 275 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.159 to New York City. And I see our major cities collapsing, 276 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.840 and I don't think we can have a great nation 277 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.720 if we have ten to twenty the largest cities in 278 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:33.639 this country are in complete collapse with riots and open 279 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:40.840 air drug use, fornication, urination, defecation, we have homeless encampments. 280 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.600 Just philosophically, I mean, you're kind of a small town guy, 281 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.159 and I look around at Washington, DC, or New York 282 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.639 or Chicago, Los Angeles, and I look at these magnificent, 283 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:55.399 opulent cities and collapse, and I'm thinking, can we be 284 00:14:55.519 --> 00:15:01.000 a great nation with no major functioning city? These uh 285 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.480 currently that that have good public schools and there's lots 286 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.519 of jobs available for those who want to work. Law 287 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.320 enforcement is out there doing their job. Just as a 288 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.960 father and as a as a physician, do you have 289 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.840 long term concern about the status of this country with 290 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:19.639 our major cities and collapse. 291 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.080 No, I agree, especially with the major cities, and you know, 292 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.840 and I think it's it's it's local failure of local 293 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:30.960 government officials. I mean, I think, especially here in the 294 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:35.639 state of Ohio, from the overall, from the state standpoint, 295 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.279 you know, making good policy, but I think often those 296 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.720 cities are are are are it's it's poor policy from 297 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:47.000 the local officials, from from the mayorage to the city 298 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.559 councils that give direction to the police officers. Don't arrest 299 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:56.000 these people, don't don't enforce these laws or uh, different 300 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:56.639 things like that. 301 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.200 So it's not good, but all right, we got to run. 302 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.519 But I'm kind of surprised to learn you had about 303 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:05.279 a year and a half to override VETOS. That's a 304 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:09.440 long time in practicality. Shouldn't it happen the next thirty 305 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.159 days so we know the direction of the state the 306 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:12.720 next two years. 307 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.399 We're not gonna it certainly won't happen in the next 308 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.000 thirty I don't think we're gonna call special session. We're 309 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.200 not scheduled to go back till after Labor Day. I 310 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.240 would expect that at the least September and October. Whatever 311 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.840 we're gonna override, we're gonna, we're gonna do. 312 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:30.639 We're not gonna. 313 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:34.279 Knowing my cousin Matt, he doesn't like things to faster, 314 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:40.919 and we'll come back. We'll initiate the veto override, and 315 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.240 first thing is September early October, and we'll be done 316 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.279 with it. But we'll see what happens. 317 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.519 All right, Senator Steve Huffman of Tips City, et cetera, 318 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:51.600 And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and 319 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.840 have a great Fourth of July weekend coming up. Thank you, Senator. 320 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.240 All right, Billy cunning in the Great America. Let's continue now. 321 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.320 Red's baseball kicks off about six oh five tonight, and 322 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.200 hopefully there's Red starting pitcher. We're not tip his pitches 323 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:09.559 on news radio seven hundred. Wow. All right, Billy Cunningham. 324 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:13.839 So many issues, so little time. And after one o'clock 325 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.519 today we have Steve gorm about the big beautiful bill 326 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.799 that passed fifty one to fifty. The tie breaking vote 327 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:23.680 was cast by your good friend of mine, JD. 328 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:24.200 Vance. 329 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:26.839 Now it's over to the Senate, back to the House, 330 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:28.640 and we'll see what happens in the House. The Senate 331 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.400 passes it fifty one fifty. You may know that the 332 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:34.200 VP of the United States is also the so called 333 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.079 President of the Senate, so if there's a tie in 334 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.000 the Senate, he can cast the tie breaking vote, which 335 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.279 Jdvans did about half an hour ago. So we'll see 336 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.119 what happens to that in the House. I have calls 337 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.480 into Warren Davidson and Thomas Massey, two of our friends 338 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.400 who voted against the original package the BBB in the 339 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.160 House about a week or ten days ago, and I'm 340 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.960 somewhat confident that Massy's going to stick with it, but 341 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.480 I don't know about Warren to Davidson. In my perspective, 342 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.240 it is flawed, it is not perfect. Put me in charge, 343 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.400 I'd go back to the budgeting of twenty twenty one, 344 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:13.720 which wasn't exactly the dark ages four years ago. Since 345 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:17.160 twenty twenty one, the US government is spending approximately fifty 346 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.440 percent more money in twenty twenty five than it's spending 347 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:25.599 twenty twenty one, fifty percent more, and to me, that's ridiculous. 348 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.480 This bill allows the Congresses to spend an additional five 349 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:35.400 trillion dollars up to the national debt right now accumulated 350 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.319 thirty seven trillion as far as the eye can see. 351 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.200 There's two trillion dollars in deficits as far as the 352 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.519 eye can see. So, whether Republicans are in charge or 353 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.359 Democrats are in charge, we spend way beyond our abilities 354 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.799 to functions as a republic when at some point the 355 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.400 bills are going to come due. And the hope by 356 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.440 Donald Trump is that by growing the economy, by incentivizing 357 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.240 individuals that have money in order to invest and spend money, 358 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.359 and might grow the economy. 359 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.960 I think it will. It's a positive, but. 360 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:12.480 We can't continue to live as a society borrowing about 361 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.880 two trillion dollars every year in brand new money. I 362 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.920 could get into the Medicaid canard by the Democrats. I 363 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.119 might save that for another day, But just briefly, a 364 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.720 Medicaid is a pass through program providing medical help, assistance 365 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.279 and bills payments, hospitalization, et cetera for those who are poor. 366 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:36.160 And in the last five years there's been an increase 367 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:42.799 in Medicaid spending of fifty percent. Fifty percent more money 368 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.000 is spent, which is a ten percent annual increase every year. 369 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:47.960 A lot of it has to do with the fact 370 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.839 that one point six million at least illegals are on 371 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:52.960 the Medicaid roles in the states. Get rid of them. 372 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.359 That's what the Trumpster says, is that a cut. The 373 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.680 Trumpster also says there's about four point seven million Americans 374 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.000 bodied Americans under the age of fifty five that refuse 375 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.000 to work, but get the government assistance, and you should 376 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:07.920 work or donate your time and go to school. Does 377 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.440 that make sense absolutely, But the essence of it is 378 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:17.480 this at the Blue States use Medicaid as a slush fund. 379 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:20.599 It's a pass through. So For example, in the state. 380 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.599 Of Mississippi, the Feds pay seventy seven percent of the 381 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:28.680 Medicaid bills. In the state of California they pay fifty percent. 382 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:32.359 There's no incentive by the Blue states to scrutinize their 383 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.000 Medicaid roles to see if it's legitimate or not, who's 384 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.920 on who's not, because it is a pass through to 385 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.680 the Feds. So when the reimbursements take place from Washington, 386 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:44.319 d c. To Sacramento, we're talking about tens of billions 387 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.640 of dollars state government, and Sacramento, California, can use that 388 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.720 as a slush fund because they reimburse fifty percent by 389 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.839 the federal government. There's no incentive in state government to 390 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.519 scrutinize the Medicaid rules to make search legitimate. And I'm 391 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:05.640 sure all the experts say they all say that there's 392 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:09.359 a massive waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid, and the 393 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.559 states are not incentivized to root it out because they 394 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:16.079 get reimbursed anyway. So we'll see what happens with that. 395 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:19.920 Unlike many parts of government, there's a state budget, so 396 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.400 that the Defense Department, for example, as an annual budget 397 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:25.759 of about one trillion dollars a year. That's what they 398 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.920 can spend in medicaid. You don't know what it's going 399 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.160 to cost because there's no budget, and we're going to 400 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.119 increase it by that dollar amount. 401 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:35.960