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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcast and Happy Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Today we are talking about the top five movies to

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watch on Halloween from the seventies.

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Speaker 1: From the seventies, this is another top five list because

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we love them so much. Next episode we will be

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talking about the top five movies to watch around Halloween

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in the eighties. Yes, and so I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about this particular scenario is we were both

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born in the seventies, right, so there wasn't a lot

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of slasher flicks that I was allowed to see between

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the ages of zero and five.

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Speaker 2: I know it's a little bit tricky here, and we're

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gonna have some horror people out there that'll be like,

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how could you possibly leave this movie off your list? Well,

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we were too little, yeah, and we haven't really gone back.

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This is not our best genre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So neither one of us are big horror fans.

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Like we appreciate them and we're familiar with them to

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some degree. But I mean, there are multiple podcasts devoted

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exclusively to horror, and if you're into that, you should

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go listen to those podcasts because we're not at But

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if you're just kind of into horror and you want

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to have some fun Halloween movies to talk about. We're

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the podcast for you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I want you to go back in time

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with me, d to October thirty first, nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Ooh okay, hell, are you like I would have just

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turned three? Three? Okay, yeah, then let's go to seventy

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nine US four as a whole three.

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Speaker 2: Just imagine with me, You're downstairs and your dad says,

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come downstairs, We're watching a scary movie. Lights are out,

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tells you to go manually turn the knob. These are

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the type of movies we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back then, I think that our TV was still

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black and white, Like, we still had a black and

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white TV that we would watch. And I'll tell you this,

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one of my earliest memories. It didn't even dawn on

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me until you just said that just now. One of

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my very earliest memories is of going and watching a

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double feature in the seventies. Yeah, remember the seventies version

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of Dracula that came out. Yes, the guy had his

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face like when he was in the sun. It was

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like peeling off at the end.

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Speaker 2: It was Franklin je it was it was him the

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bad guy from Dave Yes, and so I can remember

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seeing that as a Yes, younger than five year old kid.

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Speaker 1: This was seventies, but it was a double feature with

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the movie that is going to be one of my

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picks tonight, and so I'm excited to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was a big fan of the Universal movies.

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So I watched the old Dracula, the old you know,

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Brida Frankenstein, you know, Creature from Black Lagoon, that type

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of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that there was like a movie about

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those universal movies, like and it had Dan Aykroy and

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Gilda Radner and a whole bunch of the Saturday Night

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Live and John Landis. I think Mike was all.

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Speaker 2: Love that it's called it came from Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And so a lot of like I

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would see those things. I want to watch that movie.

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I want to see the Blob. I want to see

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the Creature from the Black Lagoon. I might see those,

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but they weren't talking about movies from the seventies at

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that point, right.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed creature feature movies. So you may notice there'll

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be less slashers and more creature featured type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our criteria does not require that it be a

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scary movie or a horror movie or a slasher movie.

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It's just movies you watch around Halloween. That's right now. Interestingly,

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in that there are a couple of movies that I

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eliminated that you might be considered good slasher or monster

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movies of the seventies. I'm not putting Alien on my list,

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even though it's sci fi horror, because to me, it's

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more sci fi than it is horror. And I'm not

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putting Jaws on my list because even though it's a

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monster chasing them for the entire movie, it's a summer movie.

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It's a blockbuster, it's a beach movie. I told you

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it's a July fourth movie exactly. That's not Halloween movie. Yeah,

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so come with us, dive in, because we're about to

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tell you our top five movies to watch around Halloween

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for the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 2: All right, d this is my number five movie to

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watch around Halloween from the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Five.

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Speaker 2: George Romero was originally supposed to direct this movie, but

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Toby Hooper got the job instead. All right, so this

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was I'm gonna call it a movie, but it was

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actually released as a television mini series. Oh okay, now then,

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the author of this movie or story is one of

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the most prolific important authors of our time. When you're

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talking bullseye of Bullseye for you and I growing up? Okay, yep,

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all right, the head bad guy from this TV mini

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series is on screen for less than ninety seconds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you think coming to you so far? I have

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an idea. I have an idea. Okay, keep going.

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Speaker 2: The plot of this movie is very autobiographical. It's about

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a professor who moves to a new England town and

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is kind of an outcast and kind of a weirdo

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and realizes that the giant mansion up at the top

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of the hill is actually possessed by a vampire.

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Speaker 1: So is this movie have a name that reminds you

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of burning, which is at the stake it does. All right,

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this has got to be Salem's Lot.

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Speaker 5: The vampires are creating vampires.

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Speaker 6: The shadow of Death.

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Speaker 2: So Sale's Lot was Stephen King's second book that he

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ever published, and it's his favorite book that he published

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up into you.

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Speaker 1: Know, through the eighties. Yeah, so I've read this one.

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It's fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bonnie Bidelia from die Hard is the love interest.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got a kind of a cool plot twist at

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the very end involving her. You get one of the

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guys from Starsky and Hutch as the main guy in

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this movie. Okay, And you've got Clint Eastwood's buddy from

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any which way you can and every which way you

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but loose running around.

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Speaker 1: Town as a vampire. Jeffrey Lewis. Jeffrey Lewis yep. Okay,

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So I haven't seen that one. Like many horror movies,

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it would catch my eye in the video store and

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the vampire is displayed prominently on the cover and he

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looks like the nos Faratu vampire. Yeah. Yeah, which again

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another scary movie from the seventies that was a remake

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of a really old like black and white silent movie.

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That's correct, but I have not seen either one of those.

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Speaker 2: Sale that's great, and it was made for television, so

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if you want to watch it with your kids. Definitely creepy,

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definitely scary, but not gory, and you know, no sex,

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no cussing, that type of thing, and you can get

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it from the library whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's really great. Yeah. They remade it in the two

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thousands with Rob Lowe as the main character. Wow. Yeah, okay,

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Stephen King's Salem's Lot okay, so ready for my number five?

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Ready for your number five? Number five? Okay. Before writing

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and directing this movie, the director and writer asked Bob

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Clark about a movie that he had just finished up

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a couple of years earlier called Black Christmas. Okay. He

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asked him, hey, did you ever think about doing a

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sequel to Black Christmas? Black Christmas involved like these sorority

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killings where it was a serial killer and you never

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really saw who it was. And Bob Clark said no,

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because these aren't really the kind of movies that I

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came to Hollywood to direct. So the director of this

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movie says, well, if you did, what would you do?

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a min to losylum and come and come back and

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recavoc in the same place that he was at before.

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That's about all he gave him. Now, I've said the

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name Bob Clark a few times. Do you remember who

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Speaker 2: That is the same guy who directed A Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Story, Yeah, exactly. The game is one of the funniest

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movies in the eighties. Yes. One of his big movie

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to come out in the seventies was Black Christmas, which was,

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of course a horror movie that takes place on Christmas.

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one of the best Christmas movies of all time. I

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gl god Dario. So, the director of this movie decides

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that it needs to also be set on a holiday, okay,

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and so he gets together with his girlfriend and they

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start writing a script. They had been propositioned by some

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producers who had seen his first movie, which was called

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Assault on Precinct thirteen. Got it, Let's kick it down

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the road. Okay, let's kick it down. I was gonna say,

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if if our listeners have got it, you keep it

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in your mind, because I think it must be higher

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on Jason's list. It is all right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, do you mentioned the John Carpenter movie

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Assault on Precinct thirteen? Yes, the film by Guys covered

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that not too long ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was a good episode.

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Go back and check out that episode.

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Speaker 2: It's one of Carpenter's early movies. You gotta check out,

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all right. So number my number four.

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Speaker 5: Four.

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Speaker 2: This was narrated by a popular sitcom actor in the

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nineteen eighties, and he was paid with a marijuana joint.

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Speaker 1: For his time and effort. This one. The director wanted.

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Speaker 2: A PG rating, okay, and because of that, he shows

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very little blood, very little gore, almost no gore.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: But instead it had the opposite effect. Because of the

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minimalization of what you actually see, your mind races and

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you go crazy. Instead, it becomes like the most horrific

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thing you've ever seen in your life.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, Okay, Okay, I don't know what it is, Okay,

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keep going, all right.

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Speaker 2: So this is an allegory for the Vietnam War. The

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director got the idea for this movie while he was

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holiday shopping in a crowded department store. I could see

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the recognition on your face.

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Speaker 1: I know where you're going with this one, and it

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is appropriate because it is also my number four. Okay, great.

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So yes, he is in a very busy store and

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he's thinking to himself, how could I speed through this crowd?

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He turns and looks to his left, and because it's

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a hardware store, he sees a chainsaw and thinks that'd

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be a good way to get through this crowd. Hey,

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that might be a good, great idea. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, we've talked about Psycho before, which Psycho is based

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on the actual killer ed Geen. Some aspects of Silence

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of the Lambs were based on ed Geen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they actually really pushed this movie as true based

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on a true story. The movie even starts off with

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the line the film you were about to see is true?

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of those heavily influenced by ed Gene's story as well.

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It also is bears some relationship to a serial killer

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out of Texas called Elmer Wayne Henley, who would recruit

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young men to go to this guy who was killing

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them go to his house, and so partially based on that.

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the clue of Chainsaw and in Texas, is the Texas

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Chainsaw Massacre.

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Speaker 4: What happened was true the most bizarre and brutal series

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of crimes in America.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course I found this quote awesome. Edwin O'Neil,

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who plays the hitchhiker, the guy one of the guys

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at the dinner scene said filming the dinner scene was

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one of the worst experiences.

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Speaker 1: Of my life. And I had been in Vietnam where

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people are trying to kill me. Yeah, that's yeah. It

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is an intense and uncomfortable scene. And all to try

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calling the Texas chains On Massacre. So this movie came

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the movie was one hundred and forty thousand dollars. It

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it's a pillar in the horror genre. Yeah. So this

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stars Marilyn Burns as Sally Hardesty, the one who's the

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last girl, as s dollar Is. It has Paul Partain

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as the wheelchair bound Franklin Hardesty, who had just come

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you might know better as Leatherface.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So this movie, as cheap as it was, set the

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stage for so many horror movies to come. Was the

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first movie to use power tools as a murder weapon. Yeah,

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and one of the very first ones to use large

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masked men as the killer.

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Speaker 2: I watched it just the other day in preparation for this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll last. The dinner scene is torture.

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Speaker 2: The watch she does this scream for like six minutes

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and then pointing at her and poking here and trying

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to get Grandpa a banger in the head with a hammer.

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were shooting this totally miserable middle of summer in Texas,

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and we know we live in southern Oklahoma, it's freaking hot. Yeah,

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it is triple digits the entire shoot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I mean to talk about it being

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a cheap budget, like one hundred and forty thousand. He

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was trying to get it done as fast as he

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could so that he didn't have to keep renting the equipment.

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they're out there for like the whole day. You know,

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wake up, start shooting until you can't stand anymore, and

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then fall asleep. Yeah, the misery you see on every

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one's face is real.

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Speaker 2: I did hear that Marilyn Burns while she was running

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through the junglely area of Texas, a lot of those

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burrs would cut her and she ended up bloody from that.

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So much of the blood you see on screen blood

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real blood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so that was my number four. Also my

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number four. Let's hear your number three, all right, three, My.

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Speaker 2: Number three has been called the scariest movie of all time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we push that one down the road.

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Let's push that one. Okay, yes, okay, to your number three, sir,

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all right. My number three involves an author's first book

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and first movie to be made out of his book.

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He sold the movie rights for twenty five hundred dollars.

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He's twenty six years old. Never been asked to have

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a book made let alone. His first book turned into

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a movie and the director had gotten the book on

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the request of a friend read it and I was like,

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this is great. Let's see who's got it, and he said,

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nobody's got it. So he went to these studios and

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said let's buy it. Yeah, heard tickets for six months

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and then finally a bite. You know what it is?

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I do know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this has to be Carrie by Stephen King.

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Speaker 1: You got it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's the night of the senior from the Bates

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High School gym is alive with excitement. Everybody is there,

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even Carrie White, the girl no one likes.

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Speaker 5: We're well, sorry about this incident Cassie.

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Speaker 4: If carry.

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Speaker 1: And everyone makes fun out of that. So Carrie came

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out just after Halloween nineteen seventy six. Came out November sixth,

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nineteen seventy six. Now this is one of the bigger

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budgets for the movies of the seventies. This one had

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started off at one point six million, got bumped up

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to one point eight million. But you have a star

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studded cast including this is interesting. The wife of the

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art director who said you should skip that commercial audition

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that you're doing tomorrow and go condition for this movie

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that I'm about to be a part of. The art

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director's name was Jack Fisk, and his wife's name is

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Sissy Spacek, whoa she had totally like and she's in

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her twenties. Yeah, but she's supposed to play a teenager.

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So instead of going to this commercial shoot that she's

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supposed to do, she gets vasolene and slicks her hair

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down and then wears this little like sailor outfit that

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she had from whenever she was a little kid, and

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totally looks like this pubest teenager. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic. You know, it's got Nancy Allen and

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John Travolta in it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so Nancy Allen we know from RoboCop. Yes,

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because we talked about RoboCop versus Predator. Predator. That was

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a good episode. Yeah, that's really a good one. She

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ends up marrying Brian de Palma. They were married from

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nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty four. Wow. It also

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has William Kat mister Greatest American hero in it. It

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also has John Travolta in one of his art earliest

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movie Roles, who comes becomes the movie guy for the

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next decade after that. Yep, it's got a lady named

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p J. Souls in it, who's in another movie that's

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going to come up here talking about it in a minute. Yeah,

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it's got Amy Irving in it, who is so pretty,

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so pretty, and ends up marrying Steven Spielberg ten years later.

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Who Steven Spielberg, he's a director?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, thank you. I mean, it's just nuts all

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the people that were involved in this. But it all

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started from this novel by Stephen King that he threw away.

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He literally was writing the novel.

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Speaker 1: His wife had said, you know, you should try something

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from a female perspective. He gave it his best shot

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and he thought this is terrible, watted up, threw it

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in the trash. His wife dug it out of the trash,

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read it and said, you need to keep going. This

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is good.

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Speaker 2: You know, they really did a great job with this.

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The pig blood scene at the very end you talk

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about scared was she flips at ther on the movie

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and the door slam shut and she's like, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I've had it. Everybody's going down. It is scary. Even

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the teacher that was kind of nice to her. Yeah, sorry,

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you are getting it just like everybody else who's inside

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this building right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, the scene that stands out to me is

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the one of they're throwing tampons at her in the shower,

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going plug it up, plug it up.

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Speaker 1: I watched it.

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Speaker 2: It's just heartbreaking, you know, they just bully her and

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then her mother's a wacko.

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Speaker 1: Oh Piper Laurie, Oh my gosh, what an incredible job

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she does. Is the psycho realig scary? Yeah? Oh my goodness,

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so good.

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Speaker 2: Excellent choice, excellent choice. That was your number three, yes,

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number k all right, oh white. By the way, one

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quick nugget. Yes, they tried to make a musical out

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of things it was. It was supposed to be on Broadway.

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I think that they did like sixteen previews, all of

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which tanked. They ran it for like five days.

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Speaker 1: And they said, no, that's just it's not gonna work.

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Oh that thinks.

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Speaker 2: The big climactive moment with Hawker dumb blood on the

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audience real quick.

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Speaker 1: The last scene in the movie, the scene, Yeah, they

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film it backwards to give it the kind of ghost theory,

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ghost kind of thing. That was inspired by the movie Deliverance.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, very good. All right, on to my number

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two two. This is a movie that was inspired by

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the old universal movies. Okay, the star of this movie said,

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I will star in it, mister director, as long as

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you don't star in it.

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Speaker 1: I know what movie you're talking about, and we should

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push it off until a little bit later. Let's push

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it off. Okay, all right, you're a number two, sir. Okay,

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so my number two you just referred to earlier as

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you're number three. You said it was referred to as

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the scariest movie of all times. Yes, there are some

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incredible stories behind this one. I mean, just trying to

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dip my toe in was hard because there's so much

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surrounding the making of this movie, let alone the movie itself. Right,

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But let me just start at the beginning, because at

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least that's a little kind of happier story. You know

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who Blake Edwards is, right?

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Speaker 2: I love Blake Edwards. Yeah, mister pink Panther, Mister Pink Panther,

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and so one of his earliest TV shows that he

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did was Peter Gunn. Yeah, okay, you'll know the theme

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if you don't know the spy hunter right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, yes, yeah. So at some point he decides I

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want to bring back the Peter Gunn character in a movie,

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and so he gets this guy who's helped him write

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some scripts, Blake Edwards, presents it to William Freakin and says, hey,

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look at the script and tell me what you think.

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And William Freakin looks at it and says, I don't

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think this could be worse if your worst enemy wrote

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it for you. Woa what Like? He was like, I mean,

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it could not have been more blunt. And and we've

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as we find out later, William Freakin is that guy.

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I mean, he's the guy who will he will do whatever. Yes,

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he's a nut, he wackle Willie. And so he just

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passed away, by the way, like two months ago, just

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passed away August seventh. Okay. So anyway, after that little meeting,

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the script writer who had also helped Blake Edwards write

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a Shot in the Dark. That's the second in the

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Inspector Clues. Oh movies, Yes, right after the Pink Panther. Yeah,

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get a Shot in the Dark. So this screenwriter, whose

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name is William Peter Blattie comes up after this meeting,

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and he says, I'm the guy who helped him write

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that script, and you're right, it was terrible. This is

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an important meeting. Yeah, Because later that writer is giving

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up on screenwriting, he decides I'll give novels a try,

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and he writes this novel about an event that occurred

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in nineteen forty nine. This kid, who at the time

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was just known as Roland Doe or Robbie Mannheim as

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a pseudonym. Later they would determine his real name was

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Ronald Edwin Hunkler. But in nineteen forty nine he was

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believed to have been possessed by the devil and required

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an exorcism, And so William Peter Bladdie then writes the

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book The Exorcist.

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Speaker 5: Got It. Something beyond comprehension is happening to a little

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girl on this street, in this house. A man has

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been sent for as a last resort to try and

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save her.

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Speaker 1: So he writes this book and it doesn't even sell

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that well to begin with. It's not until he goes

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on the Dick Cavot Show and gets involved in this

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conversation about whether the devil exists or not, and for

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some reason that slights the Spark and literally within the

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week he is on the New York Times bestseller list.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. You know, this movie was so scary the

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people in the theaters threw up, passed out. The Washington

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DC police said they were going to arrest any adult

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who was bringing a child in to see this movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even.

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Speaker 2: Now you and I are both like, man, that's scary.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, it is terrifying. Like I said, we need

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to do a full episode on this. Jason Miller, the

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guy who plays the young priest in the movie. At

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some point while the movie is being filmed, an actual

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priest stops him, unaware that they're this movie, but just

472
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,240
stops him in his apartment building, hands him a Catholic

473
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,599
medal you know the little necklaces that you can wear

474
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,559
some Saints medal and says to Jason Miller, if you

475
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,039
reveal the devil for the trickster that he is, he

476
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:18,079
will seek retribution against you, or he will even try

477
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,839
to stop what you're doing to unmask him. Whoo, So

478
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,720
he gets this medal. Two days later, he's walking through

479
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,319
his apartment building. He goes by the door and he's like, whoa,

480
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,640
what did I just see leans back and there is

481
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:36,480
a coffin inside of the apartment. The priest that gave

482
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,640
him the medal two days earlier is dead in the casket.

483
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,279
And that's just one of three or four deaths associated

484
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,279
with the making of this movie. It's crazy.

485
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,559
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you something else. I don't know if

486
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,880
he came across this or not. Yeah, on screen in

487
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,799
this movie is a killer, like an actual serial killer.

488
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: The guy who plays the radiologist and she's in the

489
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,920
hospital later gets convicted of murder. Two of the actors

490
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,680
in the movie die before the movie is released. Both

491
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:09,240
the main female characters in the movie break their back

492
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,480
during the production of the movie. The behavior of William

493
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,440
Friedkin during this entire movie is nuts, And had he

494
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,279
not just come off winning the Academy Award for the

495
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,599
French Connection, no one would have let him even do

496
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160
the movie, let alone do the crazy stuff that he

497
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,640
was doing. Oh my gosh, this one is just amazing.

498
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480
But if I can just give you a little trivia

499
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:33,440
on the guy who wrote the music, because the music

500
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,279
is iconic.

501
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,519
Speaker 2: As well, it's as least as important as some of

502
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:37,519
the special effects.

503
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: The composer's name is Jack Nietzschee and he started his

504
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,720
career as the right hand man of mister phil Spector himself.

505
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,799
He played with the Rolling Stones, He played with Neil Young.

506
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000
He wrote the song which won him an oscar. By

507
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240
the way, up where We Belong? Oh live does up?

508
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:59,920
Wel mister Joe Cocker himself? Wow? Is that that same

509
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,039
man is the guy who wrote the music to this

510
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,039
incredibly scary movie? A little bit of trivia for you go.

511
00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,799
The woman is who sings that song up where We Belong?

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,720
She's been featured in one of our other episodes, was

513
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,240
it the dirty Dancing episode? That's right, Jennifer Warrens, who

514
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,759
also sang with the Righteous Brother Bill Medley. Bill Medley,

515
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,240
thank you for the I had the time of my life,

516
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:25,440
Time of my life. Wow. By the way, A couple

517
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960
more trivia bits. Yes, for the part of the little

518
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,240
girl that ultimately went to Linda Blair. Yes, Jamie Lee

519
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,519
Curtis wanted to play the part, but her mother Janet Lee,

520
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,880
wouldn't allow her to do it. Wow. Another person who

521
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,720
was a prime consideration for playing this part laid Violet

522
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:45,519
Buregard in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Mister Denise Nickerson.

523
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,759
Who I mean, can you imagine violet? You're turning violet? Yeah,

524
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,640
I can't repeat anything. That can't repeat anything that Linda

525
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,519
Blair says in the movie.

526
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: But yes, you know, the Demon was voiced by a

527
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,640
woman named Mercedes McCambridge, who Orson Wells called the world's

528
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,799
greatest living radio.

529
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Actress at one point.

530
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:10,519
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, Now she smoked forty packs a day.

531
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: And you know since the radio days her voice changed

532
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,079
a little bit, right, perfect for the Demon. Perfect yep. Okay,

533
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,680
So at this point in the podcast, we are to

534
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,599
our number one picks, which are different number one picks, right,

535
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,440
and both of us had it as a movie in

536
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,720
our you know, I had yours as a movie in

537
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,519
my past list on my number five and you had

538
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,880
my number one. Is your number two. But we're not

539
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,720
going to get into any of that yet. First, we're

540
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,599
going to tell you about our honorable mentions. And I

541
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,039
will just tell you, boys and girls, lady and gentlemen.

542
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,200
As a kid who was zero to four years old

543
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,640
during the seventies, these are not movies that I've seen

544
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,160
because I just didn't see that many scary movies that

545
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,839
many Halloween movies. I had a guy the other night

546
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200
when I mentioned this, he goes, oh, Charlie Brown The

547
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,799
Great Pumpkin. I'm like, oh, perfect. I'm like, oh, now

548
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,160
that's sixties sixty six. Oh yeah, that would have been

549
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,400
a perfect one, because that's the kind of Halloween movies

550
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,680
I was watching. Sure, But as I went through these things,

551
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000
there were a few movies that I was like, oh, man,

552
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:14,960
I really, at this stage in my life, I do

553
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,880
actually want to watch those movies. Even though I'm not

554
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359
a scary movie guy, I would like to watch those movies.

555
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:24,640
So my two honorable mentions, I'm not gonna give you

556
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,160
any trivia on. I'm just gonna tell you. I'm gonna

557
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,200
tease me up. Come on, movie. I don't have the

558
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:35,160
tri trivia. Sorry, bro. So one of my honorable mentions

559
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,160
is another Brian De Palmer movie, and it's stars a

560
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,799
guy that we've talked about before when we did our

561
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,559
Smoky in the Bandit episode. A guy who wrote Rainbow

562
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:52,240
Connection for the Muppet movie. Yeahlus because he's thirsty dummy.

563
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,839
Mister Paul Williams is the star of a Brian De

564
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Palmer movie, which was described to us as a cross

565
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,240
between Phantom of the Opera and the Rocky Horror Picture

566
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,759
Show a movie called Phantom of the Paradise. WHOA, I've

567
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,880
never seen this movie. I haven't. I had again, I

568
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,400
was familiar with the cover of the VHS tape or whatever,

569
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880
but it's not one I ever saw. But it's I mean,

570
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
it's got a seven point three on the IMDb. It

571
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,519
looks like a worthy watch. I just have never seen it,

572
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,319
And based on Jeff Johnson's recommendation, I think I need

573
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,960
to probably correct that this month.

574
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Anybody who writes a song as good as Rainbow Connection,

575
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:32,000
this has to be good.

576
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Jason, Before we keep going, there is a

577
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,720
podcast you and I just discovered which is fan freakantastic

578
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:40,880
that I wanted to tell everybody about. Yeah. It's called

579
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Famous and Gravy. Yeah. A couple of guys very much

580
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880
like ourselves, same generation. They have that kind of same

581
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,240
talking back and forth chemistry. Michael Osborne and am At Kapoor.

582
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,960
They have this really awesome format and it just keeps

583
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,079
you engaged in the podcast the whole freaking time. Yeah.

584
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:00,119
Speaker 2: So they talk about a person who is dead and

585
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,799
whether or not you would want to have their life

586
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,240
it's kind of a cool thing. They're they're inspirational, they're

587
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:06,720
very positive, thought provoking.

588
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I enjoy this. They break it up into like ten

589
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,880
or eleven different categories. First one is the obituary of

590
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,480
this person, right, and then the last one is the

591
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,319
James Vanderby category of I Don't want your life and

592
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,839
it's fantastic. And they've got a Malcovich category in there,

593
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,079
which is my absolute favorite. But you guys should totally

594
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:30,039
go check these guys out. They cover athletes, they cover

595
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,759
rock stars, just I mean anybody and everybody.

596
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: I mean, they've covered any money. Luke Perry, I forgot

597
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:38,880
he died, Brad Willard, Gene Wilder, Bill Paxton, Hank Aaron,

598
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,720
Alan Rickman.

599
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,279
Speaker 1: You told me you found a Bill Paxton nugget in

600
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:43,799
one of their podcasts.

601
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,079
Speaker 2: From them, According to their podcast, I learned this stuff, ye,

602
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,880
Bill Paxon, do you know the song fish Heads.

603
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: Fish Fish Fish Yeah.

604
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: Bill Paxton was the director of that music video.

605
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: Shut up, Yes, dude. I love these guys. They are

606
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,400
fantastic guys. If you have not checked out the Amous

607
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,599
and Gravy podcast, definitely go check that out. Definitely. And

608
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,519
then my other honorable mention is a movie that I

609
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:14,240
want to see. So it also stars Martin Sheen and

610
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,400
it has got a The plot of the movie is

611
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640
a thirteen year old girl who lives with her absentee father,

612
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:26,200
the friends a disabled teenage amateur magician, and eventually invites

613
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:32,279
him gradually into her tenuous struggle against a predatory local neighbor.

614
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,440
This movie is called The Little Girl who Lives Down

615
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,079
the Lane. Came out in nineteen seventy six and got

616
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:43,480
a seven point zero on IMDb. Okay, gotta be a

617
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,839
good movie, yeah, Jennie Foster, are you kidding? Yeah? Awesome, Okay,

618
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,400
all right, I got a couple for you. These are

619
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,359
my honorable mentions.

620
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:51,319
Speaker 2: And I have seen these, okay, and I've got I've

621
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,160
got a kind of a tender spot in my heart

622
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,039
for these corny, really cheesy seventies type of movies.

623
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:58,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna tease this.

624
00:31:58,319 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: One up for you a little bit, just to see

625
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920
if there's anything there for you. Okay, So this one

626
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,079
is basically a copy of the movie a Rachnophobia.

627
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: It stars William Shatner. I was gonna say it can't

628
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,759
be a copy because Rachnophobia didn't come out until like

629
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:10,319
the nineties.

630
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: Well, excuse me, A rachnophobia basically steals the entire plot

631
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:17,039
from this movie.

632
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Excuse me, oheah, yeah, gotcha. Okay, it's a spider movie.

633
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:21,559
It's a spider movie. Okay.

634
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,039
Speaker 2: William Shatner is the uh protagonist.

635
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,519
Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, I don't know what this says.

636
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,359
Speaker 2: Okay, it's basically about this Arizona town that's invaded by

637
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240
tarantulas for no reason, like they don't.

638
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,359
Speaker 1: Talk about it. Why, Just they're migrating, that's it. Oh

639
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:36,960
that's great, Okay, I love it.

640
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: Not only are they translists, but they're tranelists who spin webs,

641
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,799
which is, you know, not possible. I don't think that's

642
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,119
the way it works. But okay, here's the deal. Producers

643
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,240
for this movie offered ten dollars for each live tarantula

644
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,680
that the handler's captured, so they came back with five

645
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,160
thousand tarantulists.

646
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,359
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fifty thousand dollars. Aulus. Here's the thing.

647
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 2: Tarantula's they're spiders, but they're also so cannibalistic and territorial.

648
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,920
So you have five thousand translates. You can't just toss

649
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920
them all in a bucket.

650
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: So they ended up with like fifteen hundred and they're

651
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,799
really fat. Hey, you watched the movie Man. Their tarantula

652
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:17,160
is everywhere. This movie is called Kingdom of the Spiders.

653
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,759
I don't like spiders touching me. I would not enjoy

654
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,599
that movie. I'm with Robert Smith on this one. No, sir,

655
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,599
you will not be I think that spider on me,

656
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:26,319
Thank you very much.

657
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:26,559
Speaker 5: Hey.

658
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: The funny thing is is that they are cut like

659
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,759
these actors all cover with spiders the entire time, and

660
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,559
Shatner is flicking these things off of stuff, and they

661
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,319
say the worst injury that anybody suffered was there was

662
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,960
minor irritation due to their hairs, the translate hairs that

663
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,480
are bugging.

664
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,119
Speaker 1: Them more than a minor irritation.

665
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Kingdom of the Fighters nineteen seventy seven. Wow, starring William

666
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,000
freaking Shatner. Okay, yeah, all right, my other honorable mention

667
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,559
and tease this one up for you a little. Okay, Okay,

668
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,119
this whole movie was shot with one camera. Nineteen seventy two.

669
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,839
You have Bernie Casey, who played Felix Lider and Never

670
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Say Never again. He was also the head guy of

671
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,760
the Black Fraternity in Revenge of the Nerds.

672
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,199
Speaker 1: He's been a bunch of other stuff.

673
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,599
Speaker 2: Scott Glenn, who played the main FBI guy in Silence

674
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:18,800
of the Lambs, he's in it.

675
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,639
Speaker 1: Okay.

676
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,159
Speaker 2: Then you have this young actress named Jennifer Salt who's

677
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,679
smoking hot for nineteen seventy two, running around this whole time.

678
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing that.

679
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,599
Speaker 2: Really struck me when I watched this again yesterday for

680
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,239
the first time since nineteen ninety. Okay, the end of

681
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,800
this movie is very similar to Aliens from nineteen eighty six.

682
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:39,199
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. Okay.

683
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: There are eggs where these gargoyles are hatching from what's

684
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,079
laying these eggs, We're not really sure. So the good

685
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,079
guys go in there, they pour gasoline over him and

686
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,559
they're burning out these eggs. I'm like, this looks just

687
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:52,320
like Aliens.

688
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: This movie is called Gargoyles Gargoles. This was a CBS

690
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,199
TV movie.

691
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Look at you a two different CBS, two different Hey

692
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,519
made for TV movies on your list. I go with

693
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,199
what I saw, right, that's fantastic.

694
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: And Bernie Casey is, by the way, is the head gargoyle.

695
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,039
Speaker 1: There you go all right, Okay. Now we're going to

696
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,280
talk about your number one and then we're gonna talk

697
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,440
about my number one.

698
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 6: One.

699
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,519
Speaker 1: Okay, And since we both know what they are at

700
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,440
this point, because they've come up previously on our list, yes,

701
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,360
we'll tease it up for the audience a little bit.

702
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,199
Al Right, sounds good, all right, all right, all right,

703
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,599
all right, here you go. You ready for You're ready

704
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,559
for this? Okay? Ready? So now, one of the key

705
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,800
characters in this movie. His name was also the name

706
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,679
of a character in the movie Psycho. It would later

707
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,400
on be the name of a character in Scream five,

708
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,320
but for now, let's just stick with Psycho. Okay, And

709
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,360
the star of the movie Psycho, her daughter is in

710
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,639
this movie. Yeah, as the main last girl. She is,

711
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,559
no doubt, and it's her first movie because her mom

712
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,800
wouldn't let her audition for The Exorcist. I know what

713
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,920
this is, Oh, of course you do. This is Halloween.

714
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago. I met this six year old child

715
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:21,159
with this blank, pale, emotionless face, the blackest eyes, the

716
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,559
death size.

717
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,159
Speaker 2: I'm babysitting the Doyles, the Wallaces leave at seven.

718
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: What about the Boogieyman?

719
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: The Boogieman is coming.

720
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,159
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. How can we have best movies

721
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,440
of the seventies to watch over Halloween if we don't

722
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,039
actually mention the movie Halloween? How can this not be

723
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:44,840
your number one?

724
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,039
Speaker 2: When you talk about movies on Halloween from the seventies,

725
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,840
You got to start with Halloween, don't you.

726
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't, because we'll time you number one if

727
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,480
you're a number two. So don't give me anything, right,

728
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:56,559
sounds good? Sounds good.

729
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: So for those of you who don't know, this is

730
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,039
common knowledge, but the mask worn by Michael Myers is actually.

731
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,159
Speaker 1: William the Shad Shatner, Hey, the main star of Kingdom

732
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,280
of the Spiders. Turned it inside out, painted it white,

733
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,280
stretched it out, cut the eyes out. That's all very

734
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,320
well known at this point, right, yep, Okay, here's some

735
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,480
tidbits about this movie that you that you may not know. Okay,

736
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:22,039
all right, yep. We mentioned that PJ. Sols, Pamela Souls,

737
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,960
was also in Carrie. She is in this movie as well.

738
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,679
She's one of the babysitters. This movie was heavily influenced

739
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,480
by the movie Psycho. The writer who was also the director,

740
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,719
and his girlfriend who was also a writer who was

741
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,400
also a babysitter named the Sheriff Lee in this movie. Yeah,

742
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,519
as a obvious direct connection. Okay, and I mentioned earlier

743
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,760
that John Carpenter, the director of this movie, had talked

744
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,119
to Bob Clark about doing a sequel to Black Christmas. Yes,

745
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,760
Escaped from the Mental Institution was Bob Clark's suggestion on

746
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,440
if he did it, this is what he would do.

747
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:59,519
But Bob Clark has said that is that's John's movie,

748
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,280
That's not my movie. We just had a conversation, right,

749
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,000
So John Carpenter and his girlfriend Deborah Hill wrote the

750
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,159
script for this in three weeks. They knew that they

751
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,719
were going to make the movie because after he had

752
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,800
his film shown at a festival movie Assault on Precincts thirteen,

753
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,519
two producers approached him that worked together a guy named

754
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:28,280
Irwin Yoblems and then Mustafa a Cod. So tragically, Mustafa

755
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
a Cod he gets killed back in two thousand and

756
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:34,360
five during the remember the three hotel bombings that they

757
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
did the Al Qaeda did in two thousand and five,

758
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,559
they called him the a Mom bombings. Yeah, the three

759
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,599
hotels they had him at the same time. He was

760
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,760
in one of those hotels with his daughter and was

761
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,719
killed in that attack. Oh my gosh. But thirty years

762
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,920
earlier he had funded this movie, which funding for the

763
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,360
movie was about three hundred to three hundred and twenty

764
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,079
five thousand dollars. This movie went on to make seventy

765
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,360
million dollars, which is the the largest profit comparison that

766
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,639
any mood movie had until Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles came

767
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:07,679
out twenty years later.

768
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Really yeah, wow, Okay, here's what I know about this movie.

769
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,679
It was set in Illinois, but it was filmed in Pasadena, California.

770
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,480
The Meyer's House was an abandoned house. It was set

771
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,920
to be kind of destroyed or whatever, and they were like, no, no, no,

772
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,920
we'll film it there.

773
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,679
Speaker 1: They fixed it up. Later, like twenty years later, they're

774
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,920
going to demolish it. They had actually moved it off

775
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,639
the property set to be destroyed, and an investor came

776
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:34,480
in rescued it.

777
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: And now you can go visit the house. Now it's

778
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,840
not on the same piece of land that it you know,

779
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,440
the movie was shot in, but you can actually go

780
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:41,519
visit the Myers House.

781
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: Wow, you know if you want to do that. I

782
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,360
don't know why anyone, but I love that time. I

783
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,880
know I was gonna say you would you would probably

784
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
go to do it. But what a great opening scene,

785
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,039
by the way, the kid looking through the holes of

786
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:57,679
his mask and his sister getting her makeup on, and yeah.

787
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: The POV of Michael, Yeah you as a little six

788
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,360
year old psychopath. John Carpenter said when he was filming

789
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,960
this he wanted the audience to not relate to Michael

790
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:09,039
at all in any way.

791
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,159
Speaker 1: By the way, the character that I mentioned before is

792
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,400
Sam Loomis. You got doctor Sam Loomis played by Donald

793
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,159
Pleasance in Halloween. They're the boyfriend character from Psycho. His

794
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,400
character's name was Sam Lewis as well. I think the

795
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,159
actor's name was John Garvin if I'm remembering.

796
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,639
Speaker 2: Right, and he is Janetly's boyfriend. I remember when we

797
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,480
talked about Psycho. I think it was kind of very

798
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,760
risky for her to be shown in a bra and yeah,

799
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,280
all that with.

800
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: His shirt off like that was very very risky for.

801
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Nineteen Really they were having a nooner, huh, and that

802
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:42,199
was a big deal.

803
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Yep. So this movie came out October twenty fifth, nineteen

804
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:49,039
seventy eight. It is forty five years old this year.

805
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:50,719
I think it's about time go watch it again.

806
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we're onto your number one, sir, which happens to

807
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,519
be my number two.

808
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,639
Speaker 1: But the way, The Exorcist was the first horror movie

809
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,440
ever nominated for Best Picture for an Oscar. Okay, so

810
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,599
for my number one. Yes, there was a guy named

811
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,760
Kenneth Strickfadden, and he was known as the electrical special

812
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,639
effects guy in Hollywood from his first movie in nineteen

813
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,159
thirty one until his last movie in nineteen seventy four, Wow,

814
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:27,639
both of which share a significant history. I know right.

815
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,199
He was the electrical guy for the Wizard of Oz.

816
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,039
He was the electrical special effects guy for the Mask

817
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:37,400
of Fu Manchu. He was the electrical special effects guy

818
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,480
for the Munsters on TV Wow. But his first job

819
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,400
was the effects of nineteen thirty one's Frankenstein and his

820
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,519
last job was on my number one movie for nineteen

821
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:54,800
seventies movies to watch it Halloween, Yes, Young Frankenstein with

822
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:01,199
mister gen Wilder by mister Melbrooks. It's coming from the

823
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,320
deep dark recesses of the mind of mel Brooks. Young

824
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:11,199
Frankenstein can Yeah.

825
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: This guy means business.

826
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:20,119
Speaker 4: Starring Gene Wilder as doctor Frankenstein.

827
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:27,119
Speaker 5: That's Frankenstein, Peter Boyle as the monster, Marty Feldman as.

828
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,119
Speaker 6: My goal, my bandfather used to have field grandfather.

829
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get along splendidly. This movie is not

830
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,599
only a great movie to watch at Halloween, it's also

831
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,079
one of the funniest movies of the nineteen seventies.

832
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely hysterical. So Gene Wilder is filming Blazing Saddles with

833
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,880
mel Brooks right right right, and they're having tea one

834
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960
day and Gene Wilder says, I think there needs to

835
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
be another Frankenstein movie. And mel Brooks is like, oh

836
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:57,039
my gosh, no, Well we've got we had the Son

837
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:59,519
of Frankenstein, and we had the cousin of Frankenstein, and

838
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,880
off all of these movies. And Gene Wilder's like, okay,

839
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,639
but imagine it's his grandson and he wants nothing to

840
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,280
do with the family because they're all a bunch of wackos.

841
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Uh huh. And Milbrook's ghost now that's funny.

842
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,119
Speaker 2: Hey, I watched the bloopers on this because I had

843
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,880
read like Chloris Leachman and Terry Garr and mil Brooks

844
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,360
had said Gene Wilder could not keep it together while.

845
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:26,079
Speaker 1: He was doing this movie.

846
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:29,119
Speaker 2: Right funny, Yes, it's so funny, and so that even

847
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,760
they would they would do stuff like Marty Feldman is

848
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,519
like chewing on Madeline Kahn's you know being, and he

849
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,679
said he just could not stop laughing. Yeah, and so

850
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,639
I'm like, well, there's got to be some great bloopers

851
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,840
out there. I laughed and laughed and laughed, and.

852
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: They would get mad at him. They're like, Jeane, that

853
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,199
was such a great take. He's like, I'm sorry, I

854
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,360
can't stop.

855
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:52,559
Speaker 3: Me.

856
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,559
Speaker 6: Oh, does that include the key to the laboratory?

857
00:43:59,079 --> 00:43:59,639
Speaker 3: Who means that.

858
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: You don't laugh?

859
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:15,519
Speaker 6: Now? Listen to me very carefully.

860
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:13,079
Speaker 1: So said a give.

861
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: But the interesting thing, so while they're making this, he's

862
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,800
laughing his butt off. He can't keep a straight face.

863
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,000
It's very hard. They show the raw cut that's like

864
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,239
two hours and forty five minutes something like that, and

865
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,719
it bombs. Oh, it absolutely bombs. And so they went

866
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,360
back to the drawing board. They're like, man, I thought

867
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,559
we had a really good one. This audience is not laughing.

868
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:34,239
It's not funny.

869
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,639
Speaker 1: So they cut it all down.

870
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: They trimmed it all up, and they ramped the pace

871
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,480
and the comedy, and of course it's now.

872
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,559
Speaker 1: It's a classic, absolute classic. And I think we've mentioned

873
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,800
this a few times now, the inspiration for one of

874
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,039
the greatest rock hits of nineteen seventy how about that well,

875
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,440
walk this way.

876
00:44:50,840 --> 00:45:20,079
Speaker 6: Walk this way, this way.

877
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,199
Speaker 1: By the way, Marty Feldman, Yeah, it was his idea

878
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,480
to switch which side the hump was on from time

879
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,599
to time. It's a viley Gene Welder to kind of

880
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:20,280
improv the bits like, wasn't that is your hump on

881
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,239
the other side? What hump?

882
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,559
Speaker 5: Hey?

883
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,199
Speaker 2: We still quote this today, right, there's and when you're

884
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,639
having a bad day and I'm like, hey, could be worse,

885
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:31,800
could be raining.

886
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,159
Speaker 6: Yeah.

887
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: You know, my mother in law has a dog named Abby.

888
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:39,960
Every time I see that dog, I'm like, Abby Normal.

889
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: We just did a Patreon episode on the Taco song

890
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,599
Putting on the Ritz, which is featured prominently in this movie.

891
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: If you're blue and you don't know where to go to,

892
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,440
why don't you go where?

893
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 7: Fashion?

894
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: That was the one scene that mel Brooks and Gene

895
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,679
Wilder got in a fight about because mel Brooks said,

896
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,000
this is too ridiculous. Mel Brooks, Wow, so this is

897
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,400
too ridiculous. It's not gonna work. Gene Wilder stuck to

898
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,760
his guns and obviously I mean comedy gold, comedy gold,

899
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
comedy goal. Have you heard about that fight? So they

900
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,679
had this knockdown, drag out fight and they're good friends,

901
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,119
like screaming match. As soon as mel Brooks leaves, he

902
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,760
calls Gene Wilder and he says, who was that mad man?

903
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:31,559
Sorry and just like apologizes profusely. That's awesome. So that

904
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:37,480
is awesome. Yeah, so like we've done vampire movies, We've

905
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,079
done werewolf movies. Yeah, we have got to do a

906
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:45,559
Frankenstein episode. I'd love to cover this one. Well, this

907
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,800
is a great I mean, I've suggested it. I don't

908
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,639
know if this is the right matchup, but I mentioned

909
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,239
Kenneth Strickfadden being the electrical guy. Yeah, they use the

910
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,840
same lab equipment in Young Frankenstein that they did in

911
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,800
the original nineteen thirty one version. A fun matchup.

912
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, hey, I'll tell you this too. Gene

913
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,519
Hackman and Gene Wilder were tennis buddies.

914
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: Huh and you know, what do you up to?

915
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: What do you have to And he's like, well, I'm

916
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,400
working with mel Brooks on this comedy in Young Frankenstein,

917
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,360
Gene Hackman's like, hey, I would love to try comedy

918
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,559
and basically he worked for free and he plays as

919
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:24,159
a blind man and that scene is hysterical.

920
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely love it. And connection again French connection. That was

921
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,519
William fried Quin's. They wouldn't even take him as the

922
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,840
director until he won the Oscar and they're like, okay, well,

923
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,920
I guess we'll go ahead and take that because Bladdie

924
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,320
was caught. He was firm, this guy has to be

925
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000
our director. Wow. All from that meeting that they had

926
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:43,119
where he knew where he was honest and said, your

927
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,960
script couldn't have been worse. If you're worse, enemy wrote it.

928
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's gonna do it for our movies to

929
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:53,079
watch around Halloween in the seventies. Come back next week

930
00:47:53,119 --> 00:48:00,199
when we talk about movies to watch around Halloween the eighties.

931
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,119
Speaker 1: Guys, thank you much so much for tuning in. We

932
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:09,119
hope you all have a happy Halloween season. Be safe

933
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:10,719
out there, and we will see you next week.

934
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: M