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It is the Right Side 47 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:50.199 Radio Show, recording this episode on Thursday October the twenty third, 48 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:55.000 twenty twenty five. I'm your host, Jack Fairchilds, and as 49 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.039 always we ask that you like and subscribe to the 50 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.360 Right Side Radio Show. Remember we're on all the major 51 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:07.439 podcatchers out there. We're on Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Spreaker, 52 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:12.159 Amazon Music, and so many more. 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Now, I've got a guest on today, 72 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.040 and this is a guest is a good friend of 73 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.279 mine for almost twenty years. His name is Adam Dice. 74 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.519 Adam is a decorated US Air Force veteran and educator, 75 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.759 and now he's a published author because he has written 76 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:49.399 a new book called Faithful Leadership Lessons of How and 77 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.639 Why to Lead as a Christian. He says that this 78 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:58.000 is a compelling resource for Christians seeking to understand and 79 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:02.560 live out their leadership purposes with faith and integrity. And 80 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.839 I think it's one of those things that's important these 81 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.319 days to talk about. So that's part of the reason 82 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.759 why I asked Adam to come on the show this week. 83 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.240 And let's let's talk about his book. Let's talk about 84 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.279 what motivated him to write this book in the first place, 85 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.319 so I look forward to sitting here in just a 86 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:26.399 few minutes and talking with Adam about this book. All right, guys, 87 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.120 I burst off. I want to welcome you, Adam, to 88 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.160 the Right Side Radio show. I know you've been listening 89 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.319 pretty much as long as you and I have been friends, 90 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:37.439 which is almost twenty years at this point. But this 91 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.920 is your first appearance on the Right Side, So welcome 92 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:41.399 to the Right Side. 93 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.800 Yes it is, and you're correcting that, and it has 94 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.560 been a long time, and it's everybody as good as 95 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.800 they come there, Jack, I appreciate your time and having 96 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:49.720 me own this that there. 97 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:53.240 Well, Adam, you know I talked about when I introduced 98 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.839 you that you're a decorated US Air Force veteran. Tell me, 99 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.879 tell me a little bit about you know, your service 100 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.959 to this country, you know what it meant to you, 101 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:08.680 And just tell me what led you to join the military, 102 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:09.920 let alone the Air Force. 103 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.040 Okay, fair question. I did it backwards as compared to 104 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.319 how most people probably do it. You entered right out 105 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.879 of high school. In high school, I was involved in 106 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.279 a JRTC program and I took a liking to it. 107 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:30.079 For lack of better terms, but I accepted some scholarships elsewhere. 108 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:31.879 I went on to college straight out of high school, 109 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.639 and later in life, I got in. By that time, 110 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.519 I already had begun my career in coaching and as 111 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:42.079 an educator, and I realized I was getting a little 112 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.120 older and I was not going to be getting any younger. 113 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.279 So I always had that desire to serve, and I 114 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.560 realized at that point. I believe I was twenty six 115 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.199 years old when I decided to enter, and I entered 116 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.040 the Mississippi Air National Guard, because if I waited much 117 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.800 longer than that, it would have been a little harder 118 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:08.240 to joint, from my perspective, but a little harder to assimilate. Marriage, children, 119 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.839 All those things can happen, obviously, in those things are blessings, 120 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:15.680 but you don't want to just go join an additional 121 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:19.480 organization that's going to be very time consuming. When you 122 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.519 have all those things, it's better to if you're going 123 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:23.639 to do it, go ahead and do it. And it's 124 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.800 it's an honor to serve. But ultimately, I just wanted 125 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.480 to serve my country. And there were some benefits too. 126 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.159 For example, I wanted to go back to school and 127 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.360 continue my education. And the Montgomery GI Bill and the 128 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.679 post nine eleven GI Bill were certainly incentives to do so, 129 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.840 but it was a strong desire to serve which led 130 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:41.600 me there initially. 131 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:47.279 Adam, now you're an educator a baseball coach, so you're 132 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:51.240 a high school baseball coach. You also teach your classes. 133 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.279 Tell me, tell me what called you to education. 134 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.960 Well, I grew up in a home where both my 135 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:04.080 parents were educators, and they were the first in their 136 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.240 family to go to college. So they instilled in me 137 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.279 the values of education and making your own path in 138 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:14.240 life and working hard for what you have and coming 139 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.799 from very humble means. They kind of showed me the 140 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.360 ropes there, so to speak, and that's kind of what 141 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.159 set my direction for the most part and planning to 142 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.799 see for for the early go. But there were courses 143 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.840 that I always found interesting that I wouldn't mind teaching 144 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.279 that are a hobby of sorts to mine, and that 145 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:38.159 and the umbrella of social studies, whether it's American history 146 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.960 or US government or even economics. I'd rather enjoyed those 147 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.320 pretty much my whole life, and that will be something 148 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.440 I could take pleasure in doing for a career. And 149 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.840 on the coaching side. I grew up playing sports. Baseball 150 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:54.960 was my favorite as the one that has always been 151 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.799 my favorite hobby anything associated with it, even if it's 152 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.480 cutting a baseball field, or watching a baseball game or 153 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:04.159 playing in a baseball game. So I thought there could 154 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.519 be a lot of competitive energy there, and I also 155 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.720 thought that there would be a good way to impact 156 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.519 kids moving forward now I had looking back, there were 157 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:20.240 several teacher mentors that really helped me out along the way, 158 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.320 but anybody who played high school sports, in my opinion, 159 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.039 some of their greatest influences were their coaches. So I 160 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:33.320 understood my father was a coach. I understood that the impact, 161 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.360 whether it's positive or negative, that a coach can have, 162 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.159 and I thought it would be a good platform to 163 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:42.600 try to bear positive impact for others, to pay it 164 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.120 back all the incentives and the good things and the 165 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.279 lessons I got from it. I thought that I was 166 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:48.759 do that for a living as well. 167 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.360 Absolutely, and it's important too, because you're right about a 168 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:59.039 coach's influence on their students, the athletes playing under them, 169 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:02.720 making a asting memory. Because I can still name off 170 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.440 several of the coaches I played for when I was younger, 171 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.919 and some I can name off with nothing but positivity, 172 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.879 and there some that I name off and it's like, yeah, 173 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:17.600 I'm not sure about that one. I hoping that you're 174 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.000 on the on the plus side when it comes to 175 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.919 the impact you're making those kids. 176 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:25.799 Uh, well, me too. And that's that's certainly the intent. 177 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.879 And I put forth a lot of effort and very 178 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.600 cognizant of that. And that is absolutely the reason I 179 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:34.120 went into the career field. To create opportunities, positive opportunities 180 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.480 for kids that maybe I didn't have or that maybe 181 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.759 could have them, but maybe they can get additional opportunities 182 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.840 or better opportunities. That was a driving factor as to 183 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.600 why I wanted to go into it. But as you 184 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.519 just said said, looking back on it, you can name 185 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.120 very positive coaches. They pop in your mind. They probably 186 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.759 popping your mind quicker than say your english or maths 187 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:56.279 teacher does. 188 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:56.639 Yep. 189 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.279 With with a number of memories and how deeply they're 190 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.559 seated in the air and your brain and your experiences 191 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:04.759 and your recollection of the things you gained from it. 192 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.600 Because you're so involved. When you're an athlete, you're so engaged, 193 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.919 it matters so much to you. So those same good 194 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.279 lessons that that English teacher can offer. It certainly bring 195 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.519 a little louder because you're an athlete. They stick with 196 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.039 you a little longer in my experience, But whether they 197 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.120 were positive or negative, there's still a lot of stuff 198 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:25.120 that can be beneficial to a kid. I've say back 199 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.759 myself of positive impacts like you can that matter a lot, 200 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.320 But I can also think back to some negative circumstances 201 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.919 that I also learned from that I also won't forget. 202 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.759 Both of those things, no matter the type, have given 203 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.039 direction to my path and I'm grateful for it. 204 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:48.600 You know, Adam, You've always been politically motivated because you're 205 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:53.039 someone who's helped us on multiple campaigns for Chris McDaniel. 206 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.759 You're someone who I know, back back at twenty years 207 00:12:57.799 --> 00:12:59.799 ago when we first met, would sit down and have 208 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:05.000 political conversations with me. How important is it to pass 209 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:10.440 along or to explain what it means to be a conservative, 210 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:14.480 especially when you've got all these outside forces that are 211 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.480 trying to tell the youth that conservatism is something that 212 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:18.840 is not. 213 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.840 Yeah, well it is significant. The reason I am so 214 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.200 engaged and intrigued to show interest in politics, and I 215 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.039 have for a long time, as you just stated, is 216 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.639 not necessarily because it is politics, but it is because 217 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.480 I am a patriotic person by nature. I have a 218 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.080 son of principles and ideals and beliefs, and those ideals 219 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.720 and beliefs are upheld more so by one side than 220 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.000 the other. So not for the sake of lobbying for 221 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.240 this party or that party or this canad or that candidate, necessarily, 222 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.039 not for that per se, but more so to stand 223 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.679 up for my principles and the fabric of my country 224 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.600 that I loved, that I swore notes to Pertatie's constitution. 225 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:01.639 That is what truly matters to me. And it just 226 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:07.080 so happens that politically speaking, one side tends to satisfy 227 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:12.000 those internal demands I have that satisfy my expectations, and 228 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:16.759 that's acide that I align with. So it is those 229 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.759 things are the reason that politics is interesting to me, 230 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.159 and they are. It is interesting, but not for the 231 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.759 sake of seeing who could collect the most folks, but 232 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.919 who's gonna who's gonna stand for the same principles high standings. 233 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:33.840 Absolutely, and that takes time to get to vet candidates. Uh, 234 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.200 Because again, for for some of us that it gets 235 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.919 harder as we get older, because we become more jaded, 236 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:42.480 we don't believe in the system the way that we 237 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.399 may have when we were younger, and our trust of 238 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.759 politicians has worn dangerously. 239 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:55.159 Then yes, that's correct. Uh. Fortunately, though one of the 240 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.039 courses I teach in the K twelve seting currently is 241 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.799 American government. We spend a fair amount of time of 242 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:07.440 the Constitution, and I do allow for diverse thoughts. I 243 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.720 certainly allow for that in the lectures, and I'm a 244 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.799 fan of the Socratic method too, and I allow feedback students, 245 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.320 and I don't think that everything I think is the 246 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.840 only correct way necessarily, I certainly have ears to hear 247 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.039 opposing opinions. However, it is a platform where I can 248 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.679 teach the abcs of the government, its functions, how it works, 249 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:32.279 and not necessarily a lobby for my principles. I do 250 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.200 try to remain as neutral as I can, but my 251 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.320 lessons are guided by those same principles. So it's a 252 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.519 good platform by which I can appropriately make the case 253 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.519 that the way things can sometimes be a little too 254 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.799 far to the office side of my principles may not 255 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:55.759 be correct. Let's consider the alternatives here and lay them. 256 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.919 Out absolutely, And I think that's an important thing because 257 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.840 no matter how deep rooted we are in our political philosophy, 258 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.840 it's always important to know what the other side things 259 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.679 and believes. It's not because you think you're going to 260 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.480 be swayed by what they believe, but if you're going 261 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.000 to have a counter argument to it, you have to 262 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.120 know their side and their positions, or else, how do 263 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.639 you make an argument that they're wrong or that their 264 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.320 positions aren't going to lead us to the prosperity that 265 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.919 we're hoping for unless you actually know them. 266 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.840 That is absolutely correct, and you have to respect the 267 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.200 diverse of the opposite opinion enough to actually ask the 268 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:43.200 question first, hear them out, and explain your side, and 269 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:47.200 if both heads are leveled. Take Charlie Kirk for example, Okay, 270 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:54.120 you say this, he did such a fantastic job for 271 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.080 the conservative movement. But what he was really really good at, 272 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.879 one of the very many things he was phenomenal at, 273 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.440 was he would allow he would ask the question, then 274 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.960 he would in his segment prove me wrong, very famous segment, 275 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.640 and then he would allow them to say whatever they 276 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.000 wanted to, and that he would give his sight of 277 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.839 it any retort he would have for rebuttal and typically 278 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.880 those people who are lobbying against it. It seemed to 279 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:25.920 me in many cases, if not most, they were lobbying 280 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.480 because it's what they have heard, is what they have 281 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:32.039 been indoctrinated with. It wasn't necessarily what they believe. Frankly, 282 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.000 they didn't have a belief system at all. They were 283 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.640 doing a making a very trendy argument, which is fine. 284 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:42.920 People were entitled to make trendy arguments. They're entitled to 285 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.759 have opinions opposite of mine. But if both sides can 286 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.200 play on a level field, you state why you think 287 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.319 what you think, and I state why I think what 288 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.000 I think in neither and both of us be willing 289 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.039 to concede if warranted. It is my opinion that the 290 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.599 conservative way of doing things more often than that, we'll 291 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:09.720 come out on top as being more logical, more foundational. Well, 292 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:10.680 conservatives safer. 293 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.559 Yeah, and you're one hundred percent accurate. The conservative point 294 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.079 of view is the more logical the too. A lot 295 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:23.079 of liberalism is pure emotion and reaction, and we've seen 296 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.000 a lot of times, especially those of us who have 297 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:30.480 lived our own experiences, when we make choices based more 298 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.200 on emotion. That's when we typically get ourselves in trouble, 299 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.960 and that's that's always been a large portion of my 300 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.240 issue when it comes to liberal ideas, because they sound 301 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:44.960 good when they're trying to sell you. It's stuff like 302 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.880 who doesn't want to feed the world. But then when 303 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.319 you start asking questions like how are we going to 304 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.039 pay for it, how are we going to do this, 305 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.279 what do we do here, what do we do there, 306 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.000 you start to understand that logically it's it's not going 307 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:04.279 to work out. Plus, being somebody that's for a smaller government, 308 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:09.640 a government that is not controlling, you can't side on 309 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.559 the side of a group that's trying to say that 310 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.559 we need to expand government to take care of folks. 311 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:17.799 Because there was a time at them back in the 312 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.119 day when the churches stepped up to help these people 313 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.599 in need. Now it seems like everybody's just waiting for 314 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.400 Uncle Sam to come and start giving them a handout. 315 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:32.079 It's not the same as it was when I was younger. 316 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.039 I dare say when you were younger, because and I'm 317 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.400 not saying churches aren't involved, but they're not involved at 318 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:40.519 the level that they were when I was younger. 319 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:46.559 I agree with that. A couple of responses here off 320 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:49.680 of what you just said, if I may, in the 321 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:52.519 Charlie Kirk debates, that we were just reverencing and you 322 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.519 just use a buzzword. I believe it was three times 323 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:58.119 as you were explaining all that, which I agree with 324 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.880 all of it. But logical was the words you used 325 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.359 when you compare that to some of these debates, and 326 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.160 that both people are on even ground and there's a 327 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:10.359 legitimate conversation on both sides willing to concede the conservatives 328 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.519 and usually end up on top because their arguments are 329 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:17.079 more logical, is my opinion. I still I still hold 330 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.400 hold to that. I still believe that to be true. However, 331 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.519 you do see debates on television and elsewhere out in 332 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.599 the community, one on one with personally yourself on occasion 333 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.519 when you're getting into such a debate and both sides 334 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.960 aren't that way, and it's just a spewing of what 335 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.279 they've heard or what they've been indoctrinated with or whatever. 336 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:39.680 It's trendy. As I just stated, okay, there's no logic there, 337 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:46.680 and you cannot speak logic to the illological. Uh if 338 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:50.160 if if someone is not willing to think logically. The 339 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:54.720 logical argument will not win. That that is something that 340 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.200 I that I have noticed. But yes, I agree that 341 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.440 the churches, uh dating back some time ago, had had 342 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.440 a really big role and they were very, very involved. 343 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.359 And one could argue that the church community is probably 344 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.680 not as involved. But playing devil's advocate here, one might 345 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:16.319 also argue that churches are equally as involved as they 346 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:20.359 always has been per capital by percentage, but they're being 347 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.440 overtaken by a larger percentage of people who are no 348 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:25.039 longer engaged in the church. 349 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.599 And that's fair. That's a fair point, you know. And 350 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.759 I think part of the reason because we've seen a 351 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:38.160 really a religion of government swoop in because they're even 352 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.559 though they don't look at government as a deity or something, 353 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.759 they still look to government to fix their problems instead 354 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.519 of a savior. Or they are looking at a savior. 355 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:53.799 The savior is whatever politician they hope to elect. 356 00:21:55.200 --> 00:22:01.440 Yes case endpoint. To support what you just say, years 357 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:05.359 ago people would expect or look to or hope that 358 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:09.880 a church community would be there in time of need. 359 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.519 Is what the trend has been, it seems over the 360 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.960 number of years decades is a trend away from church 361 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:23.720 by government, where government can now be the big helping 362 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:28.400 hand and it's become so commonplace. And the people that 363 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:30.839 are being helped it does not matter whether from a 364 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.079 church or a nonprofit organization or a government. Their issue 365 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.200 is they need the help. Perhaps, so does it really 366 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.920 matter to whom. However, they are going to acknowledge who 367 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.720 it is that is trying to help them, and they 368 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:46.960 just want the help, and they are willing to surrender 369 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.839 in pockets anyway, in my opinion, they are willing to 370 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:55.599 surrender those freedoms for that help. Because the bigger the 371 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:59.440 government can become, the more helpful it can be to someone. Sure, 372 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.440 the bigger the government becomes, the more power it has. Thus, 373 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.680 the less freedom that is being helped have to help 374 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:13.079 themselves is a cyclical, it's a spiral, and it's not 375 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.559 trending in a positive direction in the case of freedom. 376 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.200 Absolutely. And before we get into talking about your book, 377 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.559 you brought up Charlie Kirk, you know, and rest his soul. 378 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:31.599 I mean, he died doing the very thing that he loved, 379 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:35.319 and he died for freedom of speech. Unfortunately, because the 380 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:39.279 person that shot him obviously wanted his voice silenced. And 381 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.000 it's insane to me that we live in a time 382 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:49.240 where one side that preaches tolerance but is the most 383 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:55.759 untolerant group imaginable, and that's the modern American Liberal, because 384 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.880 they're the ones, several of them, that celebrated the assassination 385 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.119 of Charlie Kirk. Now I have to ask you, Adam, 386 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.279 you know where were you when you got the news 387 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.640 that Charlie Kirk had been shot and let alone that 388 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.400 he had lost his life, and what was your initial 389 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:16.799 thoughts when you heard. 390 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.079 I can tell you precisely where I was and exactly 391 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.559 what I was doing, because there have been just a 392 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:28.640 handful of incidences or occurrences in my lifetime, or I 393 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:32.240 can do that so in my head, I suppose I've 394 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.319 never really thought of it this way, but his assassination 395 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.279 was one of the biggest moments in my lifetime because 396 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:40.119 there are a lot of big, important things that happened. 397 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.400 I can't remember where I was or anything like that, 398 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.200 but I remember where I was with Katrina may Lampond. 399 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.440 I remember what I was doing. I remember, even though 400 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.799 I was much younger in life, exactly where I was sitting, 401 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.240