WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:04.759 I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:07.759 and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird 3 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:10.359 that people are going to have to talk about how 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.599 weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm 5 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:17.879 your host Chris Matthew. Today my guest is Peter Crazona. 6 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.120 Be sure and check out our merch shop beautiful shirt designs. 7 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:24.120 We've got shirts from the films. We've got hoodies. Use 8 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.120 the link in the description to go check that out. 9 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.160 Watch my films I called Louisiana's on twob Doors of 10 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:33.679 Perception on Amazon Prime. I am booking guests for September. 11 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.280 If you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest, 12 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.560 email me Forbidden Knowledge neews at gmail dot com. Today, 13 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:42.759 I want to welcome back to the show Peter CRASONA. 14 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:47.799 He is a researcher, author of The Messenger exploring consciousness, 15 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:53.000 spiritual awakening, and humanity search for meaning. Peter, welcome back. 16 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:53.600 How you doing? 17 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.399 I'm doing better? We Chris, How are you? How are 18 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:56.799 you being? 19 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.200 I'm good man. It's great to have you on. Last 20 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.799 time you were here, we shared a bit about your 21 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.120 research and experiences which led you to who you're writing 22 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:10.120 your books. Today, we're going to learn more about those experiences, 23 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.079 as well as the information contained in your research about 24 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:18.640 consciousness and how ancient civilizations may have had a much 25 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:23.879 better understanding of the nature of reality and spirituality and 26 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:28.239 metaphysical concepts, at least much better than we do now. 27 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.200 Before we get into any of this, though, remind the 28 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.879 audience just a little bit about yourself and let them 29 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:35.239 know how they can find more. 30 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.120 I'm, you know, peace to be here again. Thank you 31 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.840 for an invitation. You know, it is a pleasure to 32 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.920 my friend, you know, and I appreciate the opportunity. Regarding 33 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:52.359 our previous conversation, obviously we talked a little bit about 34 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.920 my work, you know, and my experiences, but we didn't 35 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.719 really I realized as I was looking I was watching 36 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.359 that last podcast, I realized that I was just jumping 37 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.799 from one topic to another. And that was one of 38 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.760 my first podcasts I've ever done, you know, So I 39 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:11.199 I I'm not gonna deny that I was a bit. 40 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:14.719 I was nervous, and I was nervous and why you know, obviously, 41 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.199 when you're so stressed, you know, first of all, you 42 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.120 don't really focus on the individual topics and you keep 43 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.479 jumping from one. And that's what I realized. That's the 44 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.120 first thing I realized. I kept jumping from one topic 45 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.080 to another, and it was a bit chaotic, you know, 46 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.039 which I apologized for it, and I hope. 47 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.479 No need to apologize. Man, that was great. 48 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.120 It had tons of wonderful information in there, and you 49 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.240 get to break it down even more today. So we're 50 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.919 looking forward to it, yes, and. 51 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.159 Regarding that, where to where to? Where to find me? Obviously, 52 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.960 I'm on Amazon, My books are on Amazon. I've got 53 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.560 the we We just started YouTube channel as well. We 54 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.080 just called the same like my podcast, because I'm starting 55 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.759 one podcast as well. I'm calling my podcast is called 56 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.719 The Fifth Dimension Chat with Pete. And I've been very 57 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.960 busy building my own podcast studio and podcast studios which 58 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:05.960 I'm going to rent to other people as well. So 59 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:10.159 it's been it's been hectic, really, but I feel like I'm, 60 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.360 you know, leaving my my kind of dream, you know. 61 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.000 And it's not like I never wanted it. I always 62 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.039 wanted it, you know. So there's that old saying, you 63 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.400 know though, And I've realized that recently with everything really 64 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.759 not only with the books. You know, be careful what 65 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:29.199 you wish for. You might just get it, That's true. 66 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:32.080 So I don't know how it is in your life, mate, 67 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.199 you know, but we I guess, you know, we wish 68 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.120 for something and then once it starts happening, it's some 69 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.159 it just gets a bit overwhelming, you know. And I 70 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:44.000 feel like that's always been for me recently, you know, 71 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.080 and I just you know, I was thinking as well. 72 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.400 It made me question many times my journey, you know, 73 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.919 because I always wanted to be in this place, you know, 74 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.800 I always wanted to be that educator. I wanted I 75 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:01.000 wanted to contribute towards changing and improving the world, you know, 76 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.039 and and spreading lave, you know, and just just because 77 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:06.520 you know, at the end of the day, that's what 78 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.159 this is all about, isn't it really, you know, what 79 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.759 we're trying to do here, We're trying to answer some questions, 80 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.319 but the fact is that we might never have the 81 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.000 answers for some of those questions. And you have all 82 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:23.680 those experts now nowadays, you know, like online, you know, 83 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.360 and you you know, listen to different podcasts, you know, 84 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:30.680 and people make different opinions and they express their their opinion, 85 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.920 and they seem like, you know, they know something, but really, 86 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:36.639 you know, are we going to be able to really 87 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.439 find out, you know, ever or maybe never, you know, 88 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.519 whether there's actually was, like previously an advanced civilization who 89 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.439 built the pyramids? You know, what is out there in 90 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.639 the universe, maybe not not during our lifetime. But what 91 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:55.160 we're really trying to answer, I feel is it's I mean, 92 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:59.120 there's the deepest question to be asked. Why. And I 93 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.399 think that's the That's what I've been thinking recently about 94 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.199 why do we really need to know why? Why do 95 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.720 you feel like we need to know that? And what 96 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.279 is it going to change in our life? Okay? Because 97 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.040 you know, you you might ask you people have been 98 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:17.360 asking always questions like is there a god? Are there 99 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.360 any like other civilizations? Or we are alone in this universe? 100 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:23.480 You know, but you know it's you know, it doesn't 101 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:27.560 seem like those answers are are there for us, you know, 102 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.120 And we kind of get a hint, you know, we speculate. 103 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.240 We we we get some you know, informations, you know, 104 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.360 which are channeled to us. You know, some people have 105 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:41.800 some experiences, but nothing's been proven really, you know, And 106 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:46.160 I wrote those books, you know, I those those experiences, 107 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:50.040 what I've discovered are my personal experiences. And I never 108 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.519 wanted to come across as someone who's preaching or someone 109 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.079 who who is an expert, because I'm not, you know. I, 110 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.000 like I said to you last time, I don't have 111 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:06.519 degree in astrology or astroscience or physics. You know, I 112 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.439 don't have astronomy. I don't really, so all of it 113 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.959 is just my personal experience. And I just I want 114 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:16.959 people to understand that what I'm sharing with you and 115 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:19.959 what I'm sharing on another podcasts is just my personal experience. 116 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.240 Is my personal like my personal discoveries, you know. And 117 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.040 and I don't want to come across like someone who 118 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.680 is pretending to be an expert of it, because I'm not. 119 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.800 That's a person. Really. I wanted to kind of point. 120 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.399 Out, Yeah, what you said there is absolutely true. 121 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.040 We may never have the absolute truth for everything, but 122 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.120 we are in a very important time, it seems, of 123 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:50.920 awareness where we're starting to question our current systems and 124 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.920 how beneficial they really are to humanity. And many of 125 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.680 us are starting to realize that they're not beneficial at 126 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.959 all the problem is they're fundamentally built on. 127 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.959 Those flaws and those lies. 128 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:08.639 The only way that we'll be able to escape the 129 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:14.319 perpetuation of keeping us in the dark is to check 130 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:19.879 out of those systems, completely remove ourselves from the deception 131 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.879 that we're under, and start to relearn who are what 132 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:24.079 we are as humanity. 133 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.680 Yeah, you know, I totally agree with you, and this 134 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.800 is all important. The question is for me is where 135 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.480 does it lead to really, you know, and and how 136 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.399 we're gonna have definite proof? Okay, if now think about 137 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.560 the internet nowadays, you know, we're gonna have if someone 138 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.240 if someone like half the population had an experience, they 139 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.839 would see an alien's landing somewhere, you know, in some 140 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.879 country or you know, you would have recorded, you know, 141 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.439 and someone will put it on social media. I bet 142 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.720 that half of the people watching it would think that 143 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.199 this is fake, you know. And how you're gonna be 144 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.199 how you're gonna be able to convince someone to something, 145 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.120 you know, when people don't believe in nothing. We're still 146 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.959 divided now nowadays, you know, we don't you know, we 147 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.560 just you know, And as more information is out there, 148 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.160 you know, as more divided we are, and as more 149 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:16.279 we questioned things, as more fake it all seems to be, 150 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.399 you know, and I just you know, even if I 151 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.079 you know, I'll tell you what I what I've experienced, 152 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.040 you know, I'll talk you through it now, what I've 153 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.800 experienced in twenty twenty four June and joy and kind 154 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.399 of would led to it. We discuss that briefly, you know. 155 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:30.240 But I think it's been a journey for me. And 156 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:31.920 I think I had it in me all my life 157 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.320 and at some point because I was I was observing 158 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.639 during COVID, you know, and and other you know, during 159 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.559 all those conflicts and wars around the world. I've been 160 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:46.679 observing what is happening with with our world and I 161 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:49.360 and I've been praying, you know, and I don't I 162 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.559 didn't know who I was even praying to, you know, 163 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.440 because I do believe there is some kind of divine 164 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.440 force there. And when I pray, when I ask for 165 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.840 things to get better, I pray to that thing because 166 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:01.720 I or if that this world is too beautiful, it's 167 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.960 too perfect for it's not a coincidence. Nothing is coincidence. 168 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.120 It doesn't seem like anything is coincident here. I think 169 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.159 that this is all precisely designed. I don't know what 170 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:15.080 it is because in twenty twenty four, I had to 171 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.919 question the reality and and you know, I'm very down 172 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.919 to her personal you know, because all my life has 173 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:23.120 been pretty ordinary. It's been ups and downs, and it's 174 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:27.519 been kind of moments of suffering and disappointment, you know, 175 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.399 and highs and lows. But you know, it's been pretty 176 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.399 ordinary life. I don't think there's been anything exceptional. I 177 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:36.279 experienced some miracles in my life, you know, which I 178 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.000 want to talk about as well, but I didn't think 179 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.360 about those moments as miracles back then. But then I'm 180 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.440 looking back at it, I think there were miracles and 181 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:48.159 they cannot be explained. But otherwise my life's been pretty ordinary, 182 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.080 you know. And and you know, the events in twenty 183 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.279 twenty four has changed everything for me and make me 184 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.440 question everything. And you know, now you can say, Okay, 185 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:59.440 this guy, you know made it up. You know, he's crazy, 186 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.200 you know, But the thing is, what is he looking for? 187 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:04.320 What is he looking for attention? But the thing is, 188 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.200 you know, I think that by exposing myself to criticism, 189 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.240 to humiliation to write write a book, I'm a driving instructor, 190 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.840 run a business. You know, I've got family, you know, 191 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.039 I don't need this kind of attention. I never wanted it, 192 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.919 you know, I never wanted it. So so you know 193 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.840 what am I gaining from from from this? You know? 194 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.240 From shedding this? What am I gaining? And and you know, 195 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.879 and another thing is sorry, I'm just again, I'm touching 196 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.879 on different subjects. But you know, when you if you 197 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:36.679 write a book, if everyone wrote writes a book, you know, 198 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.159 something really significant must happen in someone's life to put 199 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.039 all those words, you know, all this time, and all 200 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.080 those words on a paper, you know, and and and 201 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.879 all this time into it, all these falls into it. 202 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.919 It's not like, you know, something really profound must happen 203 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.279 in someone's life to write a book. It's not just 204 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.879 it doesn't just happen for no reason from one day 205 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.320 to another. You know. For me, that's at this how 206 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.360 it was, you know. So if people would question my 207 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.000 journey or people would and I saw some comments when 208 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:05.919 I was on different podcasts, you know, he made it up. 209 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.720 It was his dream, you know, he is a day 210 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.000 dream and stuff like that. You know. It's think at 211 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:15.919 the same time, I feel like Eve, someone never experienced 212 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.440 anything extra ordinary in their in their life, they will 213 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:20.519 be never able to understand it. 214 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:24.320 You're right, it is your story and it really doesn't 215 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.840 matter what anyone else thinks. Whatever you're putting out based 216 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.799 on your experience is to help you to understand it, 217 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.840 help you to deal with it, more than for anyone 218 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:37.720 else's benefit. 219 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.639 Right, Yeah, that's how I look at it, mate, you know, 220 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.159 and actually, actually you know we're having these conversations and 221 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.120 you you know, I want to ask you as well. 222 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:51.759 I want to ask you a question, what put you 223 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.000 on this journey? Because when you I just I want 224 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:57.159 you to just really think back the start of it, 225 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.639 like whereever it start, when did it start? And when 226 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.679 put what questions? Did you really wanted to ask? Why? 227 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.279 Why you were? And you're being always so curious because 228 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.039 I'm sure that that's what's driven you in your like 229 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.200 the curiosity. Tell me, please try to tell me why. 230 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:16.159 What I remember from my childhood is I've always been 231 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:22.919 curious about the nature, reality, paranormal, metaphysical, the occult, and 232 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:26.320 that got shut down in my teenage years when I 233 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.720 just started to focus on the material life's ex drugs 234 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.200 and rock and roll. It's all shut down until twenty 235 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.799 twelve when I was getting a divorce and that negative 236 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.399 trauma triggered me to look for something outside of myself. 237 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.320 So I just started reading, I started looking at YouTube videos, 238 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.240 going back to what I was really passionate about in 239 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.200 my childhood and bringing it back out. So it wasn't 240 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.159 like there was a specific trigger or topic or something 241 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.919 that I was looking into. It was everything that I 242 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.919 once wanted to know that had been buried for a 243 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.759 long time and started to come up again. 244 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.639 Right, Okay, so but you mentioned trauma there. Yes, so 245 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.679 there was some some trauma and oh yeah, something which 246 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.559 some shift in your life which then put you on this. 247 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:22.840 One hundred percent very negative divorce. And I was in 248 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:25.960 a place where I needed answers because I was extremely 249 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.600 depressed and engaged in negative behavior things that was not 250 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.159 beneficial for me at all. So yes, there was that 251 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.159 trauma trigger one hundred percent. 252 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.360 Okay, you see because with me, you know, I I 253 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.080 just you know, yes, surely you know I I've been 254 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.000 asking for it. And this uh, this this you know, 255 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.600 this voice you know in like this praying of mine. 256 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.919 You know it's been heard by someone you know, and 257 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:59.320 and you know, because it must that is like a frequency, 258 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:01.559 you know, it's a freak and energy you know, and 259 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.720 and I feel like because of I always very sensitive person, 260 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.840 you know, and emotionally very sensitive. And this is an 261 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.519 energy you know, you create, you know, and that energy, 262 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:18.240 I believe it's being it's being kind of transferred across dimensions, 263 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.440 you know, and across time, you know, and across space 264 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:26.679 you know, and it's it's being heard by some beings, 265 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.679 you know, whether you call them multi dimensional beings, whether 266 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:34.120 you call it God, spirit or or or ghosts you know, 267 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.039 or angels or whatever you want to call it. You know, 268 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.919 it's your interpretation is your. But I believe and I 269 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.720 you know, I recently had a podcast, you know, and 270 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:44.559 and someone asked me, but do you can you for 271 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.600 certain say that you were you were dealing with aliens 272 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.159 or what you're dealing with And I cannot say that. 273 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.960 I don't know. I don't know what those experiences were 274 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.879 because it's impossible to define it. But I know one 275 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.559 thing that before that, you know, obviously, Yes, I've been 276 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.799 always like I said, I always wanted to do that. 277 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:06.200 I always wanted to have this kind of I wanted 278 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.480 some answers I did. I did want to say. I 279 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.399 wanted the universe to give me some answers, and it 280 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.440 gave me and presented me with at the time when 281 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:15.840 I least expected it. So we only just came back 282 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.360 from Turkey from a holiday in Turkey with my wife 283 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:23.039 and children. And I remember like one afternoon, I was 284 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:27.960 preparing dinner in the kitchen and I was watching Christopher 285 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:32.639 Dunn and Joe Rogan podcasts about pyramids, you know what, 286 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.320 you know, his his theory, the gizza, the power plant, 287 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.080 what the pyramid pyramids could be and stuff like that, 288 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.200 you know, And you know, I was like I watched 289 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.399 podcasts every afternoon, like when I'm preparing food and stuff, 290 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.759 and and that moment, you know, when I watched a podcast, 291 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.799 I I almost almost you know, when I when he 292 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.559 started explaining about what the pyraid, the things the pyramid is, 293 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.600 what the pyramids are, the complex of the pyramids of 294 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.840 gizare are, and and you know, he started talking about 295 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.679 the placement of them on the center center of the 296 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:12.120 landmass of the earth and stuff, and the precise dimensions 297 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.200 of the shafts, you know, and and what their function 298 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.759 may be, and the king's chamber and so called queen's 299 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.919 queen's chamber and and other things. I just realized that 300 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.000 moment I've realized, you know, that was the moment when 301 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.559 I first time looked at those those pyramids from a 302 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.559 completely different perspective. Up to that moment, they were for me. 303 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.480 You know, the official official story, which which I always accepted, 304 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.679 was that, you know, they were tombs for the Pharos. Okay, 305 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:41.960 so so I feel like, you know, that's when I 306 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.600 was growing up, that's what I thought they were. And 307 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.240 I never questioned that. Okay, I never questioned. I knew 308 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.919 there were wonders, one of the certain wonders of the Earth, 309 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:52.639 but but never really, I mean, I never had And 310 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.480 that moment when I listen to the podcast, everything has 311 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.440 changed and I what I realized, and that's that's changes 312 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.039 everything really, because what I realized is that first of all, 313 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.960 the Egyptians, after all this conversation with like between Jorgon 314 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.960 and Christopher dam I realized that the Egyptians didn't most 315 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.079 likely did not build them. And if they didn't build them, 316 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.599 and they were built most likely about like thirty thousand 317 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:24.480 and thirty five thousand years ago, because the erosion marks 318 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.960 on the Sphinx and what erosion marks on those things 319 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:31.319 and the pyramids indicates that they were there before the rainfall, 320 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.720 like a significant rainfall, and before the so called flood 321 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.200 Biblical flowed, which means that they couldn't have been built 322 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.240 during the time from eleven and a half thousand years 323 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:47.839 ago up to up to between that time from eleven 324 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.519 and a half thousand years ago to four and a 325 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.359 half thousand years ago, so before the Egyptians were there, 326 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.359 because that that was one of the theories which people 327 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.640 kind of like they were, they tend to believe that, 328 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:02.160 you know, they were built after the great flowed by 329 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:08.160 the civilization, by civilization which survived the flowed, and then 330 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.319 one of the theories where that Egyptians has inherited them. 331 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.759 But that couldn't have happened because that was the slow 332 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.480 rebuilt of the civilization from from that disaster, those this 333 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.039 this catastrophic disaster which which which went through you know, 334 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.599 whatever that was, because we don't really know whether that 335 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:30.039 was like an asteroid of asteroid strike or whether there 336 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:34.880 was like some shift like on the the polar reduced, 337 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.599 the rate reduced. The just came out of my head. 338 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.799 So the axis, the axis, yes, the pole shift. So 339 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:50.519 so we we don't solar solar like solar storm as 340 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.720 well as one of that's one of the theories some 341 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:56.039 stores sol storm. But but you know, we don't, we 342 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.160 don't really, we don't really know. However, if they were there, 343 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.359 if that the civilization that survives or the people who 344 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:09.200 survived this this catastrophe would build those would have built 345 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.519 those pyramids, then there you would not find those water 346 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.799 erosions on them. So what I concluded straight away is 347 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.519 that they must have been there before the flood, as 348 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.079 when they go back it Tepi Day and and all 349 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:28.000 all those towns, the Karakan tep they describing what happened 350 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:32.160 and how the that disaster which happened thirteen thousand years ago. 351 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:35.160 Most likely that's what they're describing. And so that means 352 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.799 that the pyramids must have been there already when all 353 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:43.160 those flowed, the tsunamis and all these all these chaos 354 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.039 has started, which then suggests that they must have been 355 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:48.240 there before the before they must have been built before 356 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:50.839 the ice age. So that is and then you know, 357 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.200 it leads me to led me to conclusion that that's 358 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.400 just my was my way of thinking, that they have 359 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:02.000 and I didn't know anything about it time, no knowledge whatsoever. 360 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.880 I didn't I did do any research. I wasn't aware 361 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.720 of the topic. I wasn't even too interested in the Pyramids. 362 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.119 That was May twenty twenty four. I wasn't really looking 363 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.720 into that at all, you know. And so then that 364 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:18.319 with that, then you have another another problem. If the 365 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:25.680 first civilization was not Egyptian Summa civilization, then that means 366 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:30.359 that the Bible, and that's again that's maybe question my 367 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.319 religious beliefs because I was raising a Catholic family and 368 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:36.400 I used to go to the church my parents, and 369 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.759 I always been kind of confused about it, you know, 370 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:42.960 and I didn't fully understand. I was going there every Sunday, 371 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.319 I didn't really understand what they were talking about quite often, 372 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.480 you know, and I didn't It didn't make much sense 373 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:52.039 for me. And it always always made me question things 374 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.480 a little, video know. And I so if they if 375 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:59.079 the Bible is not doesn't describe the flood in the Bible, 376 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:08.920 doesn't describe events happening during that time, like the like 377 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.359 the Bible, the Christian Bible apparently is it's it's it's 378 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.519 been like for two thousand years, two thousand years, and 379 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.400 it's based on other scripts and play tablets and stuff 380 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:25.200 like that. What what events and what beings and what situations? 381 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.720 What does it really describe, you know, because if it doesn't, 382 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:30.559 if it's not what happened two thousand years ago, or 383 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.200 or even four thousand years ago, if it goes further back, 384 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:39.400 what what we have built our beliefs in regarding Christianity, 385 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:44.519 regarding our God, you know, and all the division when 386 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:48.559 it comes with different religious beliefs, all of it, all 387 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.440 of it, all the reality we surrounded ourselves with and 388 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.519 our perception of it is incorrect. And that moment, like that, 389 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.920 that was like a moment when I realized, Okay, this 390 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:01.279 is so significant, you know, I cannot just I cannot 391 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:04.160 just leave it like that anymore, and and nothing. I 392 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:06.759 would probably not think about it much, to be honest, mate, 393 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.079 I would probably go with my life if not the 394 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:15.279 fact that that night after I watched that podcast, weird 395 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:19.000 things has started to happen, you know, so happened so 396 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:26.680 and and weird bizarre things, some some synchrony cities, some 397 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.440 events happen which turned my life upside down and put 398 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:32.759 me on the journey of writing the book, starting the 399 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:35.960 podcast now and wanting to share it, wanting to explore 400 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.279 it and stuff like that, and I'll you know, I'm 401 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:40.160