Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
Speaker 1: am Mark, slave to the rhythm half Myer.
Speaker 2: And I am Jay I was one of them, and
Speaker 2: I am Jay Good hunting Cluet. Welcome you Board Deeply
Speaker 2: the podcast. On this show, we've been to the entire
Speaker 2: Deepest Trilogy, scene by scene. We're doing it again, but
Speaker 2: not today. Today we're continuing our year of Reptiles and
Speaker 2: our Anaconda franchise with Anaconda four Anaconda's Trail of Blood.
Speaker 2: What is Anaconda's Trailer Blood. It's a direct sequel picks
Speaker 2: up at the end of from where Anaconda three whatever
Speaker 2: that was called Offspring left off with the scientist who
Speaker 2: Peter Rainsner p Trainsta played by Zoltan. He has collected
Speaker 2: the serum, the samples of at the end of three.
Speaker 2: He's doing experiments. Don't worry, he's not around much longer.
Speaker 2: He gets immediately taken out a big state. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: doing He's doing experiments with the blood orchid serum that
Speaker 2: makes at least makes anacondas a lot bigger and regenerative
Speaker 2: and a lot angrier. Spaky tails. No spaky tails in
Speaker 2: this film. The spiky tail mutation no more, and now
Speaker 2: they're just they're more regenerative. Now they have Wolverine clause. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's two one thousand is a lot more accurate than Wolverine.
Speaker 2: So it's all being funded by John Rey Stadiums. Peter Block.
Speaker 2: He sends mister Eugene one one million, isn't it million?
Speaker 1: I sung fifty million into the project.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, But he pays mister Eugene one to go
Speaker 2: and kill, go and kill Peter rains there and also
Speaker 2: Amanda Crystal Allan if he comes across her. So he's
Speaker 2: after the after the because he's got some research and
Speaker 2: he thinks that Peter's gone on to some of the
Speaker 2: other backer So Eugene's after Peter amandas after the serum.
Speaker 2: Also tagging you Along is a group of people out
Speaker 2: doing a dig who are just going to get stuck
Speaker 2: in the middle of it. And then one random kid
Speaker 2: out on his own and a couple of cops and
Speaker 2: a lot of people and a lot of people in
Speaker 2: this one had a bug bite and at least one
Speaker 2: big snake chasing them all and eating most of them.
Speaker 2: It is directed by David Olson. So I written with
Speaker 2: David Olson directed by Donny font Leroy and came out
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine and is better than the
Speaker 2: third one. I like this film with a great deal.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun with.
Speaker 1: It, way better than the first film. And Okay, I
Speaker 1: think I have a few reasons why there were some
Speaker 1: attempts at costume design. In the costume I think this
Speaker 1: movie probably was funded by big cargo pants. I'm just
Speaker 1: putting that there. Two, there's an actual stunt on a car.
Speaker 1: Two stunt men are hanging from the back of a
Speaker 1: land rover ladder. It's going twenty miles an hour, but
Speaker 1: they attempted a stunt. Three there's some good wide shots
Speaker 1: of make eating people, which when they happened, I think
Speaker 1: I wrote in all caps holy, like best moment of franchise,
Speaker 1: like this is it's really good. I wrote best moment
Speaker 1: in films. The biggest reason why this movie is better
Speaker 1: is because there's no David Hasselhoff.
Speaker 2: No overpowering yeah presence.
Speaker 1: He didn't care in that movie. He is so loosey, goosey,
Speaker 1: and he you could tell he didn't give any any
Speaker 1: cares about that movie and he made it right listen.
Speaker 1: And also there's not as many walking scenes in this movie.
Speaker 1: It takes place in the Carpathian mountains and there's just
Speaker 1: woods in Romania, and they shot in a shed they
Speaker 1: probably just found. But that Lindon Ashby is good. He
Speaker 1: actually tries. So they dropped Hasselhoff. They added Lyndon Ashby
Speaker 1: and he makes this movie better. Christa Allen she's good.
Speaker 1: She's just running around. Crystal Allen is just running around.
Speaker 1: It's it's way better. Now. Can you see the cameraman
Speaker 1: as there there's a lab scene and you can see
Speaker 1: the cameraman in the reflection of a metal table and
Speaker 1: they didn't care about it at all. There's like a
Speaker 1: ladder fall where she falls two steps down. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like six hours man.
Speaker 3: And it still this movie is way This a vast
Speaker 3: improvement over the second one.
Speaker 2: For me, the improvement is is the white there's one
Speaker 2: wide shot sequence in the middle that. Yeah, that for
Speaker 2: me is the highlight of the film. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's a bit you were talking about. We're just
Speaker 2: I I love this scene, a good, great scene, just
Speaker 2: because my I thought it was gonna a problem. There
Speaker 2: were just so many disparate groups where often often there
Speaker 2: are some walking scenes also just some kind of like
Speaker 2: sitting down talking scenes where not a lot is happening,
Speaker 2: and we just keep on cutting from one group to another,
Speaker 2: and the groups will often split up into more groups,
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is a problem. But then
Speaker 2: when three of those groups meet plus the snake in
Speaker 2: this clearing, I was like, great, was this all added
Speaker 2: up to one people over there with a snake chasing them.
Speaker 2: Other people are over there running towards the snake, and
Speaker 2: these other people are just us just watching, just seeing what's.
Speaker 1: Going to play out.
Speaker 2: And I loved that sequence.
Speaker 1: That's a good sequence and it makes sense. It works. Also,
Speaker 1: the henchmen or mister Eugene and some of his lackeys,
Speaker 1: they're way better than the henchmen in Ana Conda three
Speaker 1: Jure there there's a guy who wears a sleeveless shirt
Speaker 1: over a shirt which doesn't make much sense to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at least but at least him and his partner
Speaker 1: wearing cargo pants and outfits that fit, which was not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're better than the kind of hunter henchmen in
Speaker 2: Film of Colors and the both of us is Python,
Speaker 2: where there's just like, I don't know if you've if
Speaker 2: you've seen that one. There's just a team of American
Speaker 2: people who are clearly not American and don't think very American.
Speaker 2: They're clearly Romanian. One of them is like dressed in
Speaker 2: an American flag and arrives at a like a Mustang.
Speaker 2: There's a stetson on. They called him text and he
Speaker 2: starts talking. He's clearly Romanian. And there's one who's trying
Speaker 2: to be Vinnie Jones in Gone to Sixty Seconds, like
Speaker 2: being silent the whole time and then talking at the end,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't do a single thing in the whole film.
Speaker 2: He's just kind of there, and then he's eating. At
Speaker 2: some point it's like, but you've built this guy up
Speaker 2: to be this like silent sniper. He's dead. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: So these guys are better than that. These guys do stuff.
Speaker 2: And there's one bit where one of them falls over
Speaker 2: and another one that laughs at him. They're being chased
Speaker 2: by a snake. One guy trips and they goes like, ah,
Speaker 2: you tripped, and so the guy trip shoots the other
Speaker 2: guy yes, and then runs away and the guy gets
Speaker 2: shot and gets like, yeah, great.
Speaker 1: Life is hard. Guys have stuff to do. I love
Speaker 1: that life is hard. Huh. Life is hard. Huh. Like
Speaker 1: they smacked off each other, Jay, Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: And also this movie. I think the filmmakers had a
Speaker 1: sense of humor on this one. In the third one,
Speaker 1: no one cared, there's no it's it's a it's it's
Speaker 1: the worst one we've ever covered. But in this one,
Speaker 1: they come across this archaeological dig. They actually have holes
Speaker 1: in the ground that look like they're perfect rectangles. So
Speaker 1: whoever did the digging did a good job, or they
Speaker 1: just found someone doing it. They just dug it up.
Speaker 1: But in the pit there's a bunch of bloody bodies.
Speaker 1: But then since it's an archaeological dig, there's three giant
Speaker 1: bones just laying in there with the people, and it's
Speaker 1: so stupid, like why would that bone be right there?
Speaker 1: But it's funny too. I just think the filmmakers at
Speaker 1: least had a gag there. Maybe I'm giving them more credit,
Speaker 1: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I I like to think somebody had fun in the
Speaker 2: production team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there is a yelling at each other in
Speaker 1: a shed scene, though, which really when Scott this is
Speaker 1: okay everybody, So there's too many there's not in a
Speaker 1: lot of locations, but there's also way too many locations
Speaker 1: and there's too many people. But there's this lab. These
Speaker 1: people go in a lab with these two henchmen. A
Speaker 1: snake comes in, and then there's this couple. Instead of
Speaker 1: booking it away from the snake, they run into a
Speaker 1: shed that's twenty feet away from the house and then
Speaker 1: they sleep in there, and we cut to the morning
Speaker 1: where doctor mant Haze played by Crystal Allen's walking back
Speaker 1: and forth with her best thinking face, like think, think, think.
Speaker 1: This dude wakes up Daddy Midwinter played Scott, and he
Speaker 1: right off the base like what.
Speaker 3: Do you got?
Speaker 1: And they just start yelling at each other in this
Speaker 1: shed and they're just like what's playing? What's planing? And
Speaker 1: she's like I'm thinking, I'm thinking, And yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: horrifying scene because they just kick off hot and that's.
Speaker 2: The morning after. Like there there were a couple of
Speaker 2: goons who are like keeping them so secially hostage. They're
Speaker 2: following them to go and find the serum, and at
Speaker 2: one point they like have made a discovery under the
Speaker 2: floorboards in the room, h and they're trying to keep
Speaker 2: it a secret, and so the goons like barge in
Speaker 2: and Scott just kisses her as a distracts like a distraction,
Speaker 2: and the goons are like, at least somebody's having fun,
Speaker 2: and then they shut the door on even to it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that is a wild decision to
Speaker 2: make for people that you're supposed to be keeping guard on.
Speaker 2: But also as the film establishing this is like a
Speaker 2: romantic couple, is that what we're supposed to go with, hey,
Speaker 2: because that's like the trope. You know, they kiss because
Speaker 2: they need to for disress reasons, and eventually they fall
Speaker 2: in love. But the next scene is them yetting each
Speaker 2: other and then later Scott dies like you treat.
Speaker 1: When Scott dies in another nice little shot, Crystal Allen
Speaker 1: almost acts too much. She's she seems legit heartbroken. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's too much acting acting, Crystal, Like, that's
Speaker 1: too You put way too much care into this scene
Speaker 1: because she seems distraught over Scott dying. She like gives
Speaker 1: it her all of that scene and it made me
Speaker 1: like the movie more because someone trotting. Okay, a few
Speaker 1: of the actors tried in this movie, like Lynda Ashby
Speaker 1: I love him Immortal Kombat and he's just very personal.
Speaker 1: I like him on screen. It's a very odd relationship
Speaker 1: in this movie with a young woman who gets a
Speaker 1: bit by a bug and then they cut her neck.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's Jackson. There's a called father. I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's there's a twenty six year rang difference.
Speaker 1: I guess, well.
Speaker 2: That's more than I was expecting. And yeah, she gets bitten.
Speaker 1: And he's a teacher probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unclear anyone's role in this team other than
Speaker 2: like it seems to be led either by Jackson or
Speaker 2: Scott depending on the scene. And but that's and then
Speaker 2: everyone else is just kind of there. One of them
Speaker 2: has a brother who is like part of this is
Speaker 2: like the B team coming to try and find what
Speaker 2: happened to the A team is Sunshine that happened to
Speaker 2: choras one And they go and like this guy's brother
Speaker 2: was on icoras one and they get that reference.
Speaker 1: And then they find the world. Sure they're just naked
Speaker 1: and standing in front of the sun, like, no.
Speaker 2: You're fine, just a great name and yeah. So he's
Speaker 2: like looking for his brother and they get there and
Speaker 2: the whole team's dead and my brother's dead and then
Speaker 2: so he then runs at the he can get and
Speaker 2: then the brothers not to be alive and then dies
Speaker 2: not long after. That's one arm. He's one of that
Speaker 2: just gets shot for being put out of his misery.
Speaker 2: And it's a real like what was all this for you?
Speaker 2: You've given this guy a little bit of backstory and
Speaker 2: this guy who just needs to be in the film
Speaker 2: a little bit of backstory. It's just way over complicated.
Speaker 2: But I didn't. I had fun with it. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: the nonsense.
Speaker 1: You know why you bring in all these Romanian actors
Speaker 1: is because cheap. Yeah, you have Lynda Nashby. You get
Speaker 1: him out of there in four days, right, because you
Speaker 1: got to do party pretem hotels. You know you probably
Speaker 1: need a driver for him.
Speaker 2: John Reys Davies a day and a half. It's two
Speaker 2: locations if that.
Speaker 1: You know, get him out. Shoot. They probably brought him
Speaker 1: in for this whole thing in four days, so get
Speaker 1: him in, get him out. Lynn and Ashby they're like,
Speaker 1: he costs some money, we had to bring him in
Speaker 1: three days. Just come out here for four days. You're out.
Speaker 1: Crystal Allen, she actually does a lot of heavy lifting,
Speaker 1: but this is like one of her first roles, so
Speaker 1: she wasn't too known, too well known, and then you
Speaker 1: just throw in a bunch of randos to beef out
Speaker 1: the rest of the scenes so that you don't have
Speaker 1: to pay the core like they probably don't have to travel,
Speaker 1: like they might be local hires. So it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: financially speaking, if you have no money, I guess it
Speaker 1: makes sense to bring in these people. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think this movie's better too because they didn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about Hasselhoff and his big old budget. I
Speaker 1: bet he paid a lot of money. And once they
Speaker 1: got rid of him, they're like, hey, we can we
Speaker 1: can do a couple of cool shots. We can do
Speaker 1: a wide shot, we can do a chase scene, we
Speaker 1: can do actually.
Speaker 2: Something good, seven more characters.
Speaker 1: We have someone who cares. We can spend ten minutes
Speaker 1: on a bug bite.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we will. We can, we have
Speaker 2: and we did.
Speaker 1: So, all right everybody. Lynn and Ashby and his assistant
Speaker 1: twenty six year old age difference. They keep it a secret,
Speaker 1: but then like, we don't have to keep it a secret,
Speaker 1: and they're smooching and she goes ow something bit my
Speaker 1: neck and they're like, oh no. And then next day.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, just in a lot of pain. And
Speaker 1: then someone comes in. They cut her neck open and
Speaker 1: bleed her.
Speaker 2: They bleed her, yeah, and it's quite bloody. It looks
Speaker 2: quite painful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they dig into her neck and she's like ah,
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the film she's just wandering
Speaker 1: around like lives so but the bug never comes back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like anaconda with the bug in the throat
Speaker 1: or the the scuba gear. Just a bug bite, just
Speaker 1: a b.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't really like nothing. She's just kind of
Speaker 2: incapacitated for a little bit. She's just like you now
Speaker 2: have to stay at base camp with other lady to
Speaker 2: look after you whilst the men go to mission. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're like, we need to.
Speaker 1: Beef out this movie in ninety minutes. Guys, we gotta
Speaker 1: fill this two hour sci fi slot. What do we got?
Speaker 2: I just found out that the brothers I'll talk about
Speaker 2: played by the Day actors.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah that's what I was.
Speaker 2: Andrew played Roland dan Patrick, so good, well done.
Speaker 1: I was very confused when he came out with one arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's happened? Yeah, it's yeah. They're probably like,
Speaker 1: what's cheap bug bite ten minutes. You can fill it out.
Speaker 2: Don't need to show the bug, don't show the bite,
Speaker 2: just needs to show lady facing his by the fig ah.
Speaker 1: A little bit of blood, special effects which cost them money,
Speaker 1: and then you got this sprits her down with Evy
Speaker 1: on every take and then you're that's it. Some rock,
Speaker 1: sweet sweat ten minutes of this film.
Speaker 2: Jake, Yeah, a lot of it. A lot of there
Speaker 2: are scenes dedicated to it. Bite from a bug we
Speaker 2: never see.
Speaker 1: To a character whose role is quite nebulous, you don't
Speaker 1: really know. It fills in some gap love entry a student.
Speaker 1: She survives, she lives, Like there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who survive. Yeah, before five people survive, but four people survive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like there's one of the earliest scenes yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Amanda, Alex Jackson, and Heather other ones to survive. Spoiler.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a scene early on when there's this
Speaker 2: new guy Alex sends to you who's just like he's
Speaker 2: just in the woods. He's just there. He's like supposed
Speaker 2: to be on a dig. Well, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the dig that everyone else is on. He's just there,
Speaker 2: supposed to be on some other kind of dig right,
Speaker 2: just hiking, but he's heading he's like an archaeology student,
Speaker 2: so he's there to do a dig of some kind
Speaker 2: and he's just hiking in the woods. He stumbles upon
Speaker 2: Amanda and these two. She says that puts his he
Speaker 2: puts his hands up as I'm underrest, and she's like,
Speaker 2: don't worry. The cops that will hang on, which like
Speaker 2: it's yeah, okay, and so that they are like a
Speaker 2: gang now a crew. And then they end up going
Speaker 2: finding the serum and the underground serum dungeon, and the
Speaker 2: snake attacks and takes out. We assume both of the
Speaker 2: cops they have both been killed, and we hear screams,
Speaker 2: but no one of them secretly is the is the
Speaker 2: battle guy in the film ntil the end. He comes
Speaker 2: back at the end and it dies immediately. That's this
Speaker 2: film loves just keeping people around and then killing him
Speaker 2: after like little minor scenes. And I had a good time.
Speaker 1: But some of them are decent actors, though it's on
Speaker 1: some of these movies they do they try this humor
Speaker 1: thing where they're snarky and they just can't act and
Speaker 1: then they just it's just a joke. But the characters
Speaker 1: in this film played it pretty straight, and I respected
Speaker 1: that it wasn't as winky wink as a hasslehoff over
Speaker 1: here and also okay, vacilly. He gets hired by Crystal
Speaker 1: Allen doctor Amanda Hayes to be her security, but then
Speaker 1: it turns out that he's working for Peter J. D. Murdoch.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he is, No, he's Murdoch's a competitor. What
Speaker 2: I think. I think he's like a rival medical I
Speaker 2: thought I read.
Speaker 1: It as because he says in the thing that Murdoch
Speaker 1: paid them to take watch her. Did I am I
Speaker 1: making this up? How people the super ru and he
Speaker 1: doesn't even know a super Maybe.
Speaker 2: How I understood it was that the city was a
Speaker 2: competitor for for Murdoch, and he had gone undercover to
Speaker 2: like be to be a guard for I'm Andrew had
Speaker 2: gone to the cops and like, I need some help.
Speaker 2: There's this drunk thing going on. I want to cops
Speaker 2: had been like gone to Vasili and like I've got
Speaker 2: a plan for you. There's this serum that you can
Speaker 2: sell for money. And so the city and actual cop
Speaker 2: had been protecting Amanda pretended Comanda to follow her to
Speaker 2: go and find the serum. Whether they they didn't get
Speaker 2: take it and set it on the black market or
Speaker 2: as on the non black market, I guess. But then
Speaker 2: they also got in league with mister.
Speaker 1: Eugene who's hired by J. D. Murdoch.
Speaker 2: Hired by Murdoch for a million million dollars. He then
Speaker 2: went to kill Peter. And also he says, like a
Speaker 2: million dollars, that's a lot to kill one guy, is
Speaker 2: it really? That was like, no, he's he thinks that's
Speaker 2: been he's been paid too much to kill a man.
Speaker 2: A million dollars is too much to kill a man,
Speaker 2: as I would know, that's quite a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Notice, so all hit people on the planet if you
Speaker 1: listen to this episode. According to John Wick, the director said,
Speaker 1: like one percent of the population are part of that guild.
Speaker 1: So that's millions of people, right, Jay, That's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: millions of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like tens of million.
Speaker 1: For many people, all right, So there's got to be
Speaker 1: one of them listening to our show. If someone goes, like, hey,
Speaker 1: kill someone for twenty k, all right, I mean it's cheap,
Speaker 1: but it's honest. If someone goes three mil for the
Speaker 1: head of Larry the satellite guy. Right, that doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: Don't trust it, you know what I mean, Like, there's
Speaker 1: got to be a catch Jay.
Speaker 2: That's when I say, any podcast has one percent of
Speaker 2: the world as listeners, is the best podcast, is the
Speaker 2: most listened to podcast in the world.
Speaker 1: Listen to our show. But if there's millions of them,
Speaker 1: one percent of tens of millions is still pretty good.
Speaker 2: That would be one percent of one percent. That would
Speaker 2: be We're still look rounds of thousands of people.
Speaker 1: We're top of the film history charts. So it's good shore.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so just don't listen, y'all. If it sounds
Speaker 1: too good, Yeah, don't do it. But yes, okay. So,
Speaker 1: so Eugene double crosses Murdoch.
Speaker 2: Yes, to work with Vasili to then try and kill Murdoch.
Speaker 2: But Jackson shows up and shoots Facilly and like grapples
Speaker 2: Eugene and ends up they're dying as well. Eugene dies, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, Eugene doesn't die. He like chases them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he ends up the back of the car. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: then but he gets a great death with the granites.
Speaker 1: But he catches There's some teamwork between doctor Amanda Hayes
Speaker 1: and Jackson Jackson Jackson Jackson. But yeah, so I thought
Speaker 1: it was a triple cross because I thought Vasily was
Speaker 1: working for Amanda, but then Vasilli starts working but then
Speaker 1: facility Facilly secretly working for Murdoch, but then he betrays
Speaker 1: Murdoch by working with Eugene. I'm like, how deep does
Speaker 1: this double triple quadruple cross go?
Speaker 2: I mean that could be the case. I know it
Speaker 2: could have been, and he could have been preparing to
Speaker 2: once they had serum to shoot Eugene and double cross
Speaker 2: him as well, So I who knows.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, Jay, this is a movie where
Speaker 1: someone goes, I thought I saw something. I'm hearing things,
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, I thought I saw something. I'm
Speaker 1: hearing things like this. The dialogue isn't great, Jay.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeahs slime, I I kind of love it. Every
Speaker 2: time we get whenever we get a someone has a
Speaker 2: flashback to something that just happened. That's always something I
Speaker 2: don't madads that she also has a dream sequence which
Speaker 2: is going over the most horrific deaths from the previous song.
Speaker 1: So also great, what about the photographs of Peter and
Speaker 1: Amanda too? There's one a Peter that was taken from
Speaker 1: the movie. And then there's one of doctor Amanda had
Speaker 1: sitting at a like a microscope looking at the camera,
Speaker 1: like who took these photos? And how they print them
Speaker 1: so fast?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that being said.
Speaker 2: There's two Pizzas in this film. The shouldn't be two Peters,
Speaker 2: Like murder Johndrewsavi is called Peter, and the scientists who
Speaker 2: took the serre at the end of the last film
Speaker 2: was called Peter. There's so many names.
Speaker 1: Take a different name at least the clothes fit.
Speaker 2: That's I'm supposed to credit. I've ever heard one. They closed.
Speaker 1: The christ Doctor Amanda Hayes, she actually looks like she
Speaker 1: has a battle outfit for one of these movies. That
Speaker 1: would be that that might work in a more expensive
Speaker 1: theatric release film they tried. And then a couple of these.
Speaker 1: Lyndon Ashby has a good little outfit. The ladies, they
Speaker 1: look like they're probably in like two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: but two thousand and nine, Like those are kind of random,
Speaker 1: Like those aren't great outits for archaeological digs, not that
Speaker 1: I've ever been on one, but maybe they didn't want
Speaker 1: all cargo pants for everybody.
Speaker 2: So this is something we've up against with Deep C
Speaker 2: two is the costuming. So I said, the costuming and
Speaker 2: Anacond four is better than in Deep C two, which
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about again soon because like you know,
Speaker 2: we had that hideous plastic yellow tie that the lawyer
Speaker 2: has and mister Calhoun's doc sorry her genes a real
Speaker 2: awkward fit. Yeah, so we'll get into that soon again.
Speaker 2: That's like a defining memory I have is the clothes
Speaker 2: from dec. Two not being good.
Speaker 1: This one tried, this one tried the outfit. The shirts work,
Speaker 1: they aren't too baggy every there. I was, actually, this
Speaker 1: is really odd, but I was actually really impressed with
Speaker 1: some of it. Maybe it's comparative, like I compared it
Speaker 1: to three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It's I was like, hey, those look like maybe they're
Speaker 1: tailored or someone bought three pairs and gave it like
Speaker 1: hey here try this, Like oh, it actually looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: All right, I guess we'll do that. That was the
Speaker 1: conversations I've had a weird conversation with myself, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it was nice. It was just nice watching
Speaker 1: some So in the third one, No one tries, Hasselhoff
Speaker 1: doesn't try. Nobody tries. It's it's a really embarrassing endeavor.
Speaker 2: Four.
Speaker 1: I think some people tried, and that's enough for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy they tried and they made a fun film.
Speaker 2: Like there's so many these films. Well, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of willing it to end, just to get through it.
Speaker 2: I was having a good time with this month. I
Speaker 2: was this on holiday, I was on vacation. I didn't
Speaker 2: think I was gonna have any good signal, but I did.
Speaker 2: My wife having a nap and I watched and I
Speaker 2: go on the trailer blood on vacation and I didn't.
Speaker 2: It was not the worst part of my vacation, which
Speaker 2: was a risk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you live on you live life on the edge,
Speaker 1: Jay did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure. The worst part was my dog's rolling in
Speaker 2: too many cow pats. It was an awful part of
Speaker 2: the vacation. A deer pooped in my driveway today, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then oh man, I opened up my grill the
Speaker 1: other day to cook. There's a rat mouse living in there.
Speaker 2: Well, a bunch of mouse living under our sink.
Speaker 1: So I had to take everything out, clean it, put
Speaker 1: on full blast twenty minutes, sanitize it because there's just
Speaker 1: rat poop everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yep, I have done that three times. We've had a mouse.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the same one, but we keep
Speaker 2: on getting mice under our sink. We would get one
Speaker 2: and I clean it on out. I cat. We catch
Speaker 2: the mouse humanly and I can release it in the
Speaker 2: woods and then come back and another one. It's a
Speaker 2: different mouse. I took a picture of each time. The
Speaker 2: second one did the same thing, and we now have
Speaker 2: a third one and I can't be bothered anymore. We're
Speaker 2: going to do some renovations next year, which will sort
Speaker 2: out where this mouse is coming from. But until then,
Speaker 2: there's too many places that could be coming from. We
Speaker 2: came back from vacation and our ceiling had collapsed in
Speaker 2: our We've got an underground portion of our house, just
Speaker 2: the ceilings. Wow, it's fine, you don't want to cry, right,
Speaker 2: we're planning on renovating it. It's just the builders can't
Speaker 2: do it till next year. So we're just gonna not
Speaker 2: have that room for a year. And that's fine.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's helping you out. You don't have
Speaker 1: to get there and all down.
Speaker 2: It's a downstairs extension toilet room and it collapsed on
Speaker 2: top of the toilet. No, so like it could have
Speaker 2: been a lot worse. I could have been using it.
Speaker 1: You had a flood down there.
Speaker 2: You're also bad. Time for you sometimes time for you
Speaker 2: get my Sure, my wife who was terrified of snakes,
Speaker 2: who will not go into a room that a snake
Speaker 2: has ever been in. You feel the presence, like if
Speaker 2: she if she knows a snake has been there, she won't.
Speaker 2: Like when we were looking at houses years ago, she
Speaker 2: wouldn't go into it if she found out. We went
Speaker 2: into the lounge and there was a tank in there,
Speaker 2: and she was in that tank and it was a
Speaker 2: terrible It was fine if it had been a snake,
Speaker 2: then we would never have looked at the rest of
Speaker 2: the house. It's just off the cuts. She will not
Speaker 2: move into a house where she knows people have had
Speaker 2: a snake. Fair enough, it could still be there. You
Speaker 2: don't know. Sure, Snake, Go Snake. That's a film.
Speaker 1: Super mm hm.
Speaker 2: I want to see ghost Snake now. I want to
Speaker 2: see ghost Snake. We had Ghost Shark with a good snake.
Speaker 2: Is it just about a snake skins? It's that's like
Speaker 2: a pop at a snake skin around the film.
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with the snake.
Speaker 2: There's something wrong with a snake. It's dead, it's undead.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but there's just something wrong with the snake.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing Christian Slater saying this just over and over again.
Speaker 2: It's got unfinished business.
Speaker 1: I think this snake has some unfinished business. There's something
Speaker 1: wrong with it.
Speaker 2: You don't sound enough like Nicholson.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm trying to do Slater. Is that I'm not doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine, but he like he is Norber, he
Speaker 2: sounds like Nicholson. You can't do Norbert's.
Speaker 1: Impersonation of Christian Slater is incredible.
Speaker 2: At least said no.
Speaker 1: No, We did a hard ranging episode where he's just
Speaker 1: like Slater the whole time.
Speaker 2: It's really great. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I know what Jay, No regrets for this one. No
Speaker 1: regrets for this.
Speaker 2: I think it should have been called Trail of Serum,
Speaker 2: trailer blood. I get it, it's the blood or kid,
Speaker 2: but what they're doing is looking for serum the whole time. Uh,
Speaker 2: And it's like trailer of blood. That's a different film.
Speaker 2: That's something else.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That bothered me. You see, usually leaving his sunglasses went
Speaker 2: for a business meeting. I hated him straight away, so soon.
Speaker 1: He works twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: J always there. Just there's a driving sequence with using
Speaker 2: walking talking between the cars that irritated me for I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I just why are they doing this?
Speaker 2: And then they get stuck by a tree. There's a
Speaker 2: fallen tree, and they're like, oh, I guess we'll walk in.
Speaker 2: I reckon, they probably do. They not drive around. There's muddy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that they just leave their cars in the middle of
Speaker 2: the road and take all their gear and just leave
Speaker 2: the cars. You know what.
Speaker 1: Though It works though, because they get the car later
Speaker 1: they do. Yes, Yeah, there's some story there. Someone in
Speaker 1: the script wrote there's cars there stuck on one side,
Speaker 1: but there's cars on the other side. I'm like, oh, yes.
Speaker 2: And when Jackson gets to the base camp and there's
Speaker 2: dead bodies there, he then runs back to the rest
Speaker 2: of the group and he says, so like to Scott,
Speaker 2: there's dead people there, and Scott insists they keep going
Speaker 2: back to the camp where everyone's dead. When they get there,
Speaker 2: all the bodies are gone, and he's like, well, I reckon.
Speaker 2: Some of them died and the rest of them are
Speaker 2: carrying their bodies downhill. How that's a hmmm, it's a theory,
Speaker 2: I guess. But then then get to the But then
Speaker 2: they get to the dig and that's where all the
Speaker 2: bodies are. So did the snake take all the bodies
Speaker 2: downhill and eat him?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Got do that.
Speaker 1: Scott's kind of a bozo.
Speaker 2: When he became like a main character, I was like,
Speaker 2: why is this? This guy should have died like three
Speaker 2: seams ago. Where is he still? Is he still here?
Speaker 2: Romantic lead?
Speaker 1: Yeah? When he gets hot in that in that she shed,
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you ask me, Scott. He becomes a lead.
Speaker 2: And then Alex, who was established as like the our
Speaker 2: audience surrogate character early on, just gets forgotten about and
Speaker 2: sure that again at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah you much.
Speaker 2: There are just slightly too many characters. I think they
Speaker 2: could have amalgamated some of them, Like when Amanda knocks
Speaker 2: her up out and Alex goes to help and his well,
Speaker 2: he leaves it. He does to get help, but his
Speaker 2: phone and his keys just falls so neatly out of
Speaker 2: his pocket as he runs away, and he runs and
Speaker 2: he finds his car gets in No keys can't start it,
Speaker 2: So like sleeps there next day, leaves the car runs away.
Speaker 2: Seconds later, Amanda has woken up and arrives out of
Speaker 2: the car, which with the keys in the phone is
Speaker 2: so convenient, So like, well, how does she even know
Speaker 2: which direction to run in?
Speaker 1: She just picked?
Speaker 2: She just started running a direction it happened to be
Speaker 2: where the car was. And then it's just the two
Speaker 2: of them running or driving in directions with the snake
Speaker 2: chasing either of them, and Amanda is doing a drive
Speaker 2: by shooting on the snake.
Speaker 1: She shoots the guy about twenty times.
Speaker 2: Yeahs, it's a city film.
Speaker 1: I liked it. And then Wendy. Yeah, Wendy didn't need
Speaker 1: to be there.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he was doing running away and
Speaker 2: getting shot by the black guys, that's what when he
Speaker 2: was doing.
Speaker 1: Wendy works though. Man, she's in the show called Adella
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight episodes. She's another one for
Speaker 1: fifty six episodes.
Speaker 2: That's Anka ANDRONI and Andron make that money. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a city film. It's better than Anaconda three. Where's
Speaker 2: it compared an anacon to two? Anacondo's to you?
Speaker 1: Anaconda twos is kind of boring. It's just like, uh,
Speaker 1: there's no joy in it. It's it's a handsome production.
Speaker 1: I think they everyone who worked on it made a
Speaker 1: technically polished film. The actors are fine, but no one
Speaker 1: really there's no there's no personality to it. Like the
Speaker 1: first Anaconda has personality. The second film is just a
Speaker 1: technically polished, boring fine movie. The third ones is garbage.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would brank for it too. I would
Speaker 1: go one four three No, one four two three.
Speaker 2: I agree, yeah for the reason stated Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: Two is just kind of boring. But it looks good
Speaker 1: and that messnary guy. I still think about his quote
Speaker 1: sometimes and laugh from the.
Speaker 2: Movie, very intense guy. Yeah there's no fun, no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: But then but then Hasselhoff was trying to be too
Speaker 2: much fun, so you gotta, yeah, you gotta play, play
Speaker 2: it to thread the needle.
Speaker 1: He didn't care though, Like there's so Parker Posey in
Speaker 1: Blade Trinity. She's off the change, like she's just that
Speaker 1: movie's really I have no idea what you take a
Speaker 1: franchise away from Wesley Snipes and just add so he's
Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't talk, and then you add in
Speaker 1: a woman who doesn't talk and listens to headphones and
Speaker 1: then a motormouth guy. It's the craziest idea, like in
Speaker 1: that movie Parker Posey's just out of her mind. But
Speaker 1: she does it in a way that's good, Like she
Speaker 1: is interesting. She like even John Voight and Anaconda. He
Speaker 1: he understands the assignment, even John Boyton Megalopolis, like he
Speaker 1: kind of understands how to be. But Hasselhoff just did
Speaker 1: not care. That's the problem, Like, does that make sense?
Speaker 1: He just did not he didn't care or try.
Speaker 2: Absolutely still annoy Yeah, as it should, and it will forever.
Speaker 2: You'll never let this one and it will forever. It
Speaker 2: will forever, this says, you'll you know.
Speaker 1: It's crazy though. This has a it's a two point
Speaker 1: nine and a kind of three years a two point eight.
Speaker 1: So that makes me happy. And it has a better
Speaker 1: tomato meter storch, so that makes me happy. Is this
Speaker 1: movie good?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is it better than the one before it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, absolutely, it's better than one before that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uneven franchised Jay very much so.
Speaker 2: And this isn't where it ends. I mean it kind
Speaker 2: of is. But also there is Anaconda versus Lake Placid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta get to the ground.
Speaker 2: We will I don't. I don't know whether which we
Speaker 2: should do the other like Placid films as well, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to. And I didn't like
Speaker 2: the first one.
Speaker 1: Lindon Ashby was an eighty eight episodes of teen Wolf.
Speaker 2: Well who wasn't honestly, I mean.
Speaker 1: I was a swim coach in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. I didn't even watch it.
Speaker 1: I like Lyndon Ashby though I love him in Moral
Speaker 1: on that. I think he's perfect in that movie. So
Speaker 1: my big thing is the nineteen ninety five one. Any
Speaker 1: of them, Oh man, it's cheeky and it's fun, and
Speaker 1: the final fight's actually really good. The people say the
Speaker 1: fights aren't great, but they brought in some of the
Speaker 1: best people from like Hong Kong and around the world
Speaker 1: to work on it. They shot on location. Paul W.
Speaker 1: S Anderson's smart from like Christopher Lambert. He was only
Speaker 1: supposed to shoot the studio stuff, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't have to come to location. He's like, screwed,
Speaker 1: I'll come with you, guys. So he just went over
Speaker 1: there and shot for free. And he's just cheeky in it.
Speaker 1: And then they didn't have enough money for a crew
Speaker 1: party at the end, so he just paid for a hole.
Speaker 2: Hey you have nice.
Speaker 1: It's a good movie. It's a fun movie. It's the
Speaker 1: the best comic book no video game adaptation ever.
Speaker 2: Ah Okay, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: Also, if you watch Mortal Kombat too, it's fun. Man,
Speaker 1: Carl Urban's having the time of his life in a
Speaker 1: good way.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I should I watch the first one
Speaker 2: first man, like that tournament. I remember you, you're being
Speaker 2: on I listened to you on out Now with our
Speaker 2: episode and you start talking about it and then you
Speaker 2: pivot and like, we watched this film and then after
Speaker 2: that we don't watch The Flight Attendant Kady Quoco, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a.
Speaker 1: Pretty good and well, there's nothing to talk about about
Speaker 1: the first Mortal Combat. Nothing nothing to talk about. So
Speaker 1: that's why that's why I think, just skip it, go
Speaker 1: to the second Okay, done or j you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna like it. It's very silly, okay. And the Flight Attendant,
Speaker 1: I mean, the first season was really good. The second.
Speaker 1: The second season was a little bit of a stretch,
Speaker 1: but I like spending time with those people in that World.
Speaker 2: It's one of these shows that my wife started watching
Speaker 2: without me and carried on and I was like, Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I don't need to watch everything.
Speaker 1: I think that Kalle is just printing checks TV shows, commercials.
Speaker 1: Respect she has.
Speaker 2: She done a film's have most deep seadjacent film. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Swim fan two.
Speaker 2: Still swim In, still a fan of.
Speaker 1: She did Hot Pop, Cougar Club, Ali, Cat Strike, Alvin
Speaker 1: and the Chipmunks, Road Chip Ye Virtue, not nks Man from.
Speaker 2: Toronto, Rats go to Paris the movie Why Him?
Speaker 1: She's in Shark Knight. She's not in Shark Knight? Was
Speaker 1: she cast in Shark Knight? And then yeah, the official
Speaker 1: Shark Knight three? They're saying that she's in it. It's
Speaker 1: not that's not true. She dressed up like a shark,
Speaker 1: a baby shark.
Speaker 2: Uh. Okay. She was in Quicksand No Escape. That's Quicksand
Speaker 2: No Escape. A hard working architect is pulled into intrigue
Speaker 2: when his wife hires a private destcator investigator to make
Speaker 2: sure he's just working late. The private I sees an
Speaker 2: opportunity to frame him for a murder instead, Double Sutherland
Speaker 2: Tim matheson Felicity halfman.
Speaker 1: Wait, she's in a Harley Quinn season two, episode three,
Speaker 1: trapped and she does voice work with Lake Bell.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I don't think we can count that.
Speaker 1: Wait, King Shark isn't it? So there it is Harley
Speaker 1: Quinn season two, episode three, and King Shark pops.
Speaker 2: Up Katie Kirker is most DeepC does and project, sure,
Speaker 2: there we did it. We did it good and just
Speaker 2: checking because maybe no, I don't think there's anything it does.
Speaker 2: And it's a show that definitely jumped the sharp.
Speaker 1: See Someone Couch and it made billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: It did, And to be fair, I've watched every episode.
Speaker 2: So some actors just haven't reached that point in the
Speaker 2: career where they're in sharp movies. But kaytie, we believe
Speaker 2: in you. You can get And so listener say this
Speaker 2: is your first listening to the show. Every time we
Speaker 2: cover a new film, because this is deeply See the podcast,
Speaker 2: I go through and work out how deep all the
Speaker 2: actually takes place at how blue are the on screen is,
Speaker 2: and how much it takes place at sea. Deeply See is,
Speaker 2: of course, on average, approximately fourteen and a half meters
Speaker 2: of forty seven and a half feet deep, about thirty
Speaker 2: one percent blue, and eighty nine percent of it takes
Speaker 2: place at sea. Mark, do you think Anaconda's trailer blood
Speaker 2: is deeper, bluer and more at sea than deeply se No,
Speaker 2: of course not. It's it never goes on the ground.
Speaker 2: They're never at sea. Oh sorry, it does go on
Speaker 2: the ground in like the Serum dungeon. I counted that
Speaker 2: as being like a couple of floors down, but that's
Speaker 2: about it. So it works out its yeah, by Canada's
Speaker 2: ground level. I'm not going, yeah, the mountains were like relevant.
Speaker 2: I think I facted that anyone did Cliffhanger because that's
Speaker 2: that was like relevant. If they were at level, that
Speaker 2: would be fine. Exactly. So this works out being point
Speaker 2: six four meters or just over two feet up in
Speaker 2: the air, which means it's slightly higher than Shark to Puss,
Speaker 2: slightly lower than an attack of the meth Gator. Blueness
Speaker 2: not not at all. One point six eight percent blue,
Speaker 2: so bluer than die Hard to less blue than the Strangest.
Speaker 2: Chapter two, another film heavily set in the woods and
Speaker 2: never at sea. Not a single second see either, represent
Speaker 2: along with like half the films we covered, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: this year repedile films not at sea. Who knew thematically?
Speaker 2: Question question?
Speaker 1: So, all right, Mexico City or Denver, mile high cities,
Speaker 1: XO cities a little higher than that, you wouldn't count,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't count the hot So if you're in
Speaker 1: Mexico City, the elevation is high, but you're not counting
Speaker 1: anything until you're like in the second story of a
Speaker 1: building or you are walking up.
Speaker 2: The Yes, it is an inconsistent system.
Speaker 1: I agree, And no, that makes sense because it just
Speaker 1: makes sense. Like Mexico City, you don't want to add
Speaker 1: an elevation would be a nightmare.
Speaker 2: And there's there's some some films where we just don't
Speaker 2: know where they're set. What do I do take an
Speaker 2: average of all land? Un't like, Yeah, some films I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's just odd. And then I just do
Speaker 2: what I do what I can and you do you
Speaker 2: do great, And I think that's going to have to do.
Speaker 1: I think you know.
Speaker 2: That's going to happen. We're looking more for the deep,
Speaker 2: the deeper films, rather than the higher films. So it's
Speaker 2: when the films like underwater, underground, and deep, that's when
Speaker 2: I pay more attention to it when we're just up
Speaker 2: in the air and when we're right on land. That's
Speaker 2: not that's not what this podcast is.
Speaker 1: Fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fairly arbitrary.
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify because I got I got
Speaker 1: World Cup on the brain. In the first game, you're
Speaker 1: going to be in Mexico City.
Speaker 2: I see that's taka.
Speaker 1: No, it's not thematically deep bluer or they're not lost.
Speaker 1: None of these characters are humans.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, agreat these.
Speaker 1: Aren't these these aren't people. No, even though the cargo
Speaker 1: pants fit better, there's still not people.
Speaker 2: Agreed. Great, well, that I think will do it for
Speaker 2: Anaconda's Trail of Blood mark, do you have any any plugs?
Speaker 1: This flew by flew by? This is this is good.
Speaker 2: We can keep going if you want, if you have
Speaker 2: if you have more notes.
Speaker 1: No, I'm done. I won't spend more time with this movie. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: a good movie. If you go to good Chase Roynolds page.
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of fun stuff coming a bunch
Speaker 1: of like three things coming up there, two things, and
Speaker 1: then another thing, and then I got more rotten tomato
Speaker 1: stuff coming up. So just and then Moviess and flicks.
Speaker 1: You know what, leave a review too, guys and are
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Speaker 2: Wait?
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Speaker 2: Next week Market's Happening. It's finally happening. Next week is
Speaker 2: deep Water. It's it's been out for ages, but I
Speaker 2: finally it's finally coming out in the UK. I'm getting
Speaker 2: it now. I'm going to see this film. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk about it next week, and I can't wait
Speaker 2: because I've already had to for so long. Rennie Harlan's
Speaker 2: deep Water, his second shock film. He's back on the water.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it next Week's come back for that.
Speaker 2: But as four Aniconda's Trail of Blood.
Speaker 1: I have been Jake Lewis, you gotta listen to the
Speaker 1: song Finally It's happened to me from the ninety ninety
Speaker 1: song before you watch Deepwater. J I feel like that's
Speaker 1: appropriate before you watch it.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do who sings? I'm aware of the song?
Speaker 2: Who sings that song?
Speaker 1: What's the Finally song nineteen BC Peniston Yep, Okay, finally,
Speaker 1: that's sure, it's happening.
Speaker 2: I just cannot hide it. So come back next week
Speaker 2: and to hey see how thematically the relevant that song
Speaker 2: is when we talk about deep water.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I have been Jake, Jake Lewis, Mark Halfmeyer, will deeply
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