WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:02.520 I hate Poul. I just want you to know that 2 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:04.559 I got one of your kids here, I is saying 3 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.919 a kidnapping thing. But if you're in a mood to 4 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:09.519 give me a million dollars. Yeah, that's cool. This should 5 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:13.080 not be interpreted by federal agents as a threat. Once again, 6 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:14.880 no threat, But we'll take. 7 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:35.000 The dough four finger discounted. Welcome to four finger Discounts, 8 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.520 where this week we are going to be celebrating Mother's 9 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.880 Day on a non Mother's Day. I am dan over 10 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.000 here to review no Letter Blues, not Better Blues, Letter Blues. 11 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.520 You wouldn't believe how many times he's made that mistake. 12 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:51.320 My notes literally saying no better blues. You realize that's 13 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.159 a computer and you can fix it, Hi, can you? Danus? 14 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.600 Screen has got like liquid paper stills all over this 15 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.560 by the way, guy, And yeah, this episode is called 16 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.480 no Letter Blues, or should I say do better dudes? 17 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.000 Really? Yeah? I like this one. Yeah I did not think. 18 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.599 But essentially this is about Adobe dudes and the women 19 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:16.280 who tolerate them and really should expect better and who 20 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.680 would be justified in maybe running off with other men. 21 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.280 Yeah, okay, I see what you're saying. I can completely 22 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.200 justified in thinking that. I just thought, with Season twenty 23 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:26.599 of The Simpsons, at least we're getting some sort of 24 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.159 a positive message to respect the women and appreciate the 25 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:30.040 women in your lives. 26 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.920 Yes, even if the men in question have really done 27 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:34.719 nothing to earn it. 28 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.280 Yeah, because the thing for me is, I what annoys 29 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.159 me so much about this ear of the Simpsons is 30 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:41.280 I say, a time and time again, Homer does things 31 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.239 wrong and nobody holds them accountable. Marge is just so 32 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.120 apathetic towards their marriage. Now, she just doesn't care. She's 33 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:48.680 just thrown in the towel. She just goes along for 34 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.319 the ride, because hey, ho, we're married. It's going to 35 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.319 do these things when we at least see Homer acknowledge, 36 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.120 Oh I need to be better or I need to 37 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.599 do change my ways. At least they're acknowledging that. But again, 38 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:01.280 like you were saying, I guess, like you pointed out, 39 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.799 why would I just bother anymore? Why? Why? What's the point? 40 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:06.920 And it's all very well and good to say, yeah, 41 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.960 I should do better, but there's no examples of it 42 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.199 in this I mean, it just seems like the three 43 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.240 wives in particular at the core of the story are 44 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.240 all just sort of they're doing all the heavy lifting. 45 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.639 I mean, I'm thinking particularly of Helen Lovejoy, who wants 46 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.199 to get down and yeah, the good Reverend it seems 47 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.319 to be not yeah, holding up his end of the bargain, 48 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.159 so to speak. And by the end it's like, guess what, 49 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.400 I've booked us two tickets on the most romantic train 50 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.120 that one's say, why are you going? Why are you 51 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.800 doing all this? Yeah, I mean it seems like the 52 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:42.960 Good Reverend has been kind of a slacker. 53 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.280 I will say, though, as someone who's been married for 54 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.080 thirteen years, there were elements of truth in each of 55 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.199 these scenarios in a sense of, you know, Homer just 56 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:57.840 sometimes not underappreciates but doesn't really realize how much Marge 57 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.319 is doing. Reverend is getting caught up in doing something 58 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.319 one of his hobbies hemposed to focusing on his wife 59 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.439 and what's most important. I've been guilty of that. I've 60 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:08.120 been guilty of I'm just going to finish this thing first, 61 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.840 and it's like, your wife's there, your kids are there, 62 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.919 what are you doing this? This isn't important, right, And 63 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.240 with a poor Manjeeler, it's just the stress of having 64 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.199 small kids in your life, and you forget at times 65 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.520 why you got married in the first place. You're at 66 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.159 each other, You at each other, you at each other, 67 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.159 You're so stressed out, you're so tired. Sometimes you need 68 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:27.680 to take a step back, get away from the kids, 69 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.120 and go, oh we were friends, Yeah, we we love 70 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:33.199 each other. We need to get back to that. So 71 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.439 I did think that all there is a bring of 72 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:36.759 truth to all these scenarios. 73 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.840 Yeah, oh yeah, you're one hundred percent right about that. 74 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.240 I just wish it was kind of expressed better, you 75 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:47.520 know what I mean. I mean, all the snipping and 76 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.639 snarking between a pool and man jeweler, it kind of 77 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:52.800 rang true, and it kind of felt like, oh, this 78 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:54.759 has got a good layer of honesty to it, and 79 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.439 you can feel the truth underneath it, if you know 80 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:59.439 what I mean. It's like, yes, this is a couple 81 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.960 that does love each other, but they are faced with 82 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.599 a not an untenable situation, but the situation is very, 83 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:04.400 very stressful. 84 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:06.719 Two kids is stressful, and I can't imagine eight. 85 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.280 Indeed, indeed, But I don't know, there just seemed to 86 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.240 be a lot of stuff in this that felt I 87 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.400 feel like, I'm sort of a broken record when I 88 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.680 say this, but the Simpsons wants to be family guy 89 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:18.360 or something along those lines. I mean some of the 90 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.160 lines at Homer is saying in this, It's like this 91 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.319 is this is not the homie Simpson. 92 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.000 They knew, Yeah, and it's just not though, it's just 93 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:28.000 not going to be well. I did watch this thinking 94 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.480 at times this feels like middle edged men writing an 95 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.000 episode apologizing to their wives. 96 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.000 Yeah, or venting their frustrations. It's like, oh God, I 97 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.000 had a shit day at home and I'm going to 98 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.480 take it out of my during my nine to five. Yeah, 99 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.759 I'm going to pour all the all the venom and 100 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.079 vitriol that I'm feeling into these characters. 101 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.800 So what do they do to fixing? So, so Helen 102 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.399 is the one who organizes the trip with the plane 103 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.000 at the train ride somewhere who it was just pretty 104 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.519 much Modus goes and convinces her not to leave him, 105 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:04.120 no real reason why. And Homer gets home and Mark. 106 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:06.759 Thinks he thinks that Marge's packing her bags, but she's 107 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.199 really just a painting a picture of her mother. 108 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.920 Is that right? Yeah? So was it a case of 109 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.480 she just appreciated that he took the kids away, she's 110 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.079 she'd have time to do something she wanted to do. 111 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.079 I guess, although he didn't sort of offer to do 112 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:20.279 that in the first place. I think she was the 113 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.920 one who said, go off on this ferry or go 114 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.519 to what was it called, we's a lilan. 115 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.399 Where were the kids by the end, because they were 116 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:31.160 driving home by themselves, that's right. Well, you did see 117 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.800 was making a lobster cage. Yeah, you did see that. 118 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:38.519 Lisa was trapped inside a busted carousel or something, that's right. Yeah, 119 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.439 and Bart was getting beaten up by Pou and Manjula's kids. Yeah, yeah, 120 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:43.920 for being a little slave driver. 121 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.480 He was, indeed. Yeah, so it was a weak's story. 122 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.079 I like what they were trying to say, but you're 123 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.120 right they probably could have done it. They needed to 124 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.519 have the men, Yeah, because I think that I was 125 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:55.639 just fooled by the story. I guess the men never 126 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.160 really did anything to change. They just got home and 127 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.759 the wife's like, he's told me not to leave you. Yeah, 128 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.279 I've booked us a flight. Oh thanks, I'm now painting 129 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:03.920 my mother. 130 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.199 It's like yeah, And at at which point his mother's 131 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.959 also saying, I know You're not the problem in this relationship. 132 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.439 It's Patty and Selma. Yeah, what's going on here? 133 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.680 I mean, and look, I'm no fan of art or 134 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.040 media or entertainment. That's kind of like all men bad 135 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.000 women always, right, I mean, I think that's just as 136 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:27.639 reductive as anything else. But yeah, these guys they behaved 137 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.120 badly and there was no sort of repercussions or consequences 138 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.959 results not behave badly, but just were they weren't fullfilling 139 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:34.759 their end of the bargain. 140 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:41.240 They don't actually change, do they? Maybe because Moe is 141 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.600 the guy who's trying to be the relationship fixer here, right, he's. 142 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.680 The love and and why I'm not exactly sure. Did 143 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.319 they ever explain why he's just I. 144 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:51.920 Think when he said take it that he's just a 145 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.240 good friend and he saw that his best friends were 146 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.319 going to lose their wives, I guess. Yeah. 147 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.519 What they've done here is they borrowed the core concept 148 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:02.399 from a movie from I think the nineteen forties called 149 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.560 A Letter to Three Wives. Oh really, Okay, yeah, I 150 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:07.959 remember seeing this on TV back and that this is 151 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:09.639 back when they show all black and white movies on 152 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.439 a TV on a Saturday night. And the plot is 153 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.399 essentially three women in this small town get letters from 154 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.439 one particular woman that says, I'm running off with one 155 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.079 of your husbands, you don't know which, and that gets 156 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.680 in thinking about their relationships, like how have I not 157 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:25.639 shown up? Have I not been present? How have I'd 158 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:26.959 maybe done wrong by my man? 159 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:27.519 This kind of thing. 160 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.120 It's a very melodrama and it always struck me as 161 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:31.839 a weird concept though, even when I was a kid, 162 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:33.279 I was like, can't you just tell them? 163 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:34.439 But I don't know. 164 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:36.399 The premise kind of strikes me as faulty from the 165 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.279 get go. And also these three characters as well just 166 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:44.360 seen kind of oddly mashed together, Reverend love Joy, Homer, 167 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:45.120 and our pooh. 168 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.279 Love Joy in particular. We've seen Homer and a poo 169 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.439 doo things together, yeah, several times. But yeah, Lovejoy just 170 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.319 seems kind of randomly. Yeah, And if you're gonna throw. 171 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.279 Him into the mix, then at least take the opportunity 172 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.160 to explore the relationship that he has with his wife 173 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.759 a little more. I don't feel like learned anything more 174 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.560 about them other than the Helen was occasionally hot to trot, 175 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.519 and you know, the Reverend Tim would rather paint marstaches 176 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.720 on his little figure rens down this train set. 177 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:12.040 I feel like there's a genuine story just in their relationship, 178 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.240 and because we've always seen Helen Lovejoy as the won't 179 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.079 somebody please think of the children? Yeah, the town gossip 180 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.560 or whatnot. We've seen them at odds over the years, 181 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.120 in recent years every characters odds on The Simpsons these 182 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.160 Days and in the season twenty one era. But I 183 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:29.199 feel like there's a genuine relationship story that we could 184 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.680 tap into that that we haven't tapped into before, where 185 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:35.000 Helen Lovejoy wants more out of their marriage in regards 186 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:36.879 to sex life and just spending time with each other. 187 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:40.639 And you could tap into maybe saying that Lovejoy was 188 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.639 so bored of the gossiping and all that aspect of 189 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:47.720 the way she used to behave that he sought refuge elsewhere, 190 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.159 refuge and comfort in these trains, because we've seen that 191 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.000 he loved these trains in the episode in Marjor We 192 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.279 trust and like that he's always been a trained guy, 193 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.759 loves his trains in the basement, But why does he 194 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.159 do it? And to explain that I did it to 195 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.200 get away from you, it sounds horrible on the surface, 196 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.440 and that's about to say but why though, and what 197 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:05.840 can we do to fix that? I think that's a 198 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.200 story you can really work with. 199 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.559 You've got to find some way to inject humoran because 200 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.080 it doesn't sound right. It sounds very grim. I wrote 201 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.120 down about this episode. This is chaotic, and not in 202 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.399 a good way. It seems like it's combined, made up 203 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.639 of so many different bits and pieces that are just 204 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:21.519 sort of thrown together. 205 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.200 Well, it's also a clic case of it's like one 206 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.320 of the Simpsons writers. I didn't realize it was based 207 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.519 on a film, so that makes more sense, right, Yeah, 208 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.720 But they founder a concept that they like and they've 209 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:34.759 just simpsonized it essentially no real reason to do so. 210 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.679 He who can be the person that finds knows? All 211 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.519 these guys just make it Mo. Yeah, everyone likes Mo. Right, Well, 212 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.279 what's the what's that? Oh? I don't know mo. 213 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.320 Yeah. It seems like that's a guiding principle in the writers. 214 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.399 But when they did that though, that was we know 215 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.960 this is stupid, that's the that's the joke for that. Yeah. Here, 216 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.440 it's like, oh, of course would they would do this. 217 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.399 I mean, there's humor in that Mo, who is supposedly 218 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:04.159 the most insensitive and uncharismatic and unlovable person in Springfield, 219 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.200 is the one who's sort of pulling the strings and 220 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.440 guiding people in the right direction when it comes to 221 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.559 love and relations. That's it's not unfunny again, just needs 222 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:15.039 to be executed a little better. I liked Moe in 223 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.799 this a whole lot. I mean, just having him as 224 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.240 the narrator and stuff and just getting a good dose 225 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:20.320 of Mo throughout the episode. 226 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:21.919 That was good fun. I would have liked to have 227 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.519 maybe had them confront most and why did you do this? 228 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.960 And he goes, I haven't got what you've got yet. 229 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:28.960 I'm going to be lonely for the rest of my life. 230 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:30.679 Would and you don't want to be like me? And 231 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.279 I don't want you, guys. I know what it's like 232 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:33.960 to be me, and I don't want you guys, my 233 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.279 best friends, to be like me. Yeah. I want you 234 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.799 guys to start realizing what you've got because I wish 235 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:40.159 I had it and I'm never going to get it. 236 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.000 Well, that's the I mean. There were many little bits 237 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:44.799 and pieces you cut out of this episode, and then 238 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.039 you sort of front loaded the start with having these 239 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:50.320 guys in various situations, either Homer at the bar is 240 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.159 or ah, my marriage sucks, or Moe in church and 241 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:57.519 sort of overhearing Reverend love Joy praying saying why can't 242 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.720 I spend more time with my trains? And he goes 243 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.919 into the QUICKI Marty's und to get something from Upoo 244 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.600 and Apoo was grassing about his marriage or whatever. That's 245 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.440 the motivation, and you know, you also have I'm say, 246 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.000 just you know, he's walking around the streets lonely. 247 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.120 He's like, you're seeing. 248 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.600 Couples going, well, that's never going to be me. Yeah, 249 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.399 And he's seeing his friends or his you know, the 250 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.559 fellow members of community not appreciating what they have, and 251 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.879 then hatching a plot to saying, okay, well, if I 252 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:25.200 can't be happy, at least I'll make you guys happy. Now, 253 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.320 maybe that's what they wanted to do with this episode. 254 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.039 I don't think they expressed it very well if that 255 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:29.639 was the case. 256 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.519 No, because I think again, I've watched this episode twice. 257 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.480 I'm a big Simpsons fan. I had no idea that 258 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.360 there was a film that this was based on, right, 259 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:39.600 I think this is one of those episodes that you 260 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.879 need to understand the subject matter. They're basically you don't 261 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:43.679 just sort of get the story and go, oh, it's 262 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.240 a mos that person. Ah, yes, yeah, because you watched 263 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.480 this and you're like, why is he doing that? Why 264 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.679 is she saying this? Ah, because it's because you know 265 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:51.919 that movie that was in the forties. 266 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.679 Yeah, Three Women is not necessarily that well known. 267 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:57.320 Oh well, I had no idea. Yeah, and I don't 268 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:58.879 think it's even on the wiki page, is it. I 269 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:00.799 think it might baa. 270 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.080 But the other thing, I mean, I feel a little 271 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.879 hypocritical because we talk so many times about our favorite 272 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.759 episode of The Simpsons, and one of the best things 273 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.519 that Vintage Simpsons does was is like, hey, it's referring 274 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.600 this thing that maybe not a lot of people know about, 275 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.559 but if you know, you know, and you get a 276 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:17.679 bit of a kick out of going that's from Vertigo 277 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:19.120 or whatever. 278 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:19.879 Yeah. 279 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.960 The references in this, like I said, a Letter to 280 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.919 the Women is not necessarily a household name. And there's 281 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:29.120 also stuff in here where Reverend Lovejoy's like spiritual counselor. 282 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:30.399 I think it is meant to be. 283 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:34.360 Being crosby what he's been in episodes before. Yeah, he's 284 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:37.480 been Yeah, remember him, I don't really know he's going 285 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.279 to carry guys opening golf and I talk. 286 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.200 I'm I've seen him once before. But then Louis Armstrong 287 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.000 sort of rocks up as well. It's like, I can 288 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.080 maybe get these references in the early nineties or something, 289 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:50.519 but in a where are we up to? 290 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.440 Whether what year are we in twenty one or what 291 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:53.679 year was his released? Twenty ten? 292 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.519 Yeah, in twenty ten. This kind of feels almost desperately 293 00:12:57.600 --> 00:12:59.840 random and influence or a reference. 294 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.320 But the thing is, it's not the first time he's appear, 295 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.879 I guess, so. Yeah, but even still, Yeah, when he 296 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.159 first aired, were like, what is his character about? Yeah, 297 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.679 it's kind of weird. Yeah, do you remember when he 298 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.120 was helping he was helping the vague. I think the 299 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.799 reverend like was selling the church or something was happening 300 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.080 to the reverend wasn't happy, and this guy came in 301 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:18.080 to sort of help him. 302 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.840 Okay, Yeah, and I think Yeah, I mean I say 303 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:23.519 the name Ben Crosby, I mean it's gonna sort of 304 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.080 ring a bell ever so slightly in a few people's heads, 305 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.519 But it just feels kind of sort of weirdly out 306 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:28.919 of date. 307 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:30.720 Yeah, fair enough, not so much. 308 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:32.320 Oh, I sort of know where that is, or I've 309 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.679 got a vague idea where that is. Like more sort 310 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:35.799 of frustrated, like why. 311 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.320 Is this here? I just realized that this wasn't written 312 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.679 by a middle aged man trying to apologize to their wives. 313 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.840 Is written by a female Stephanie Gillis, who I believe 314 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.000 is the wife of al Jean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Algeane's wife. Yes, 315 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.679 So this was written by a woman, which is interesting 316 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.720 when you think about it. So this episode here, so 317 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.000 they're given the mother's episode to a woman, Stephanie. Obviously 318 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.000 he has been rewrites with other male men in the writer's room, 319 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.080 but I feel like she should have written more from 320 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.440 the women's perspective. We don't really get when the men 321 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.799 are away. We don't really see them changing their way 322 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.159 or explaining why they're angry at their husbands or anything 323 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:11.879 like that. It's just at the end, it's like, Oh, Tob, 324 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:13.879 we not to leave you. Yeah, how though? What did 325 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:14.200 he say? 326 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:14.440 No? 327 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.679 I'm just that's it. I'm not going to leave you 328 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:18.480 because mob we do Like you've never seen the man, 329 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.919 Jeweler and Moe hang out before. It doesn't make sense 330 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.000 that's right, but I guess at least she explains that 331 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.399 they were hanging out at the bar. That's right, because 332 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.759 that's why he did it was Yeah, so they sort 333 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:30.559 of they bonded there doing the dance condesct, so she 334 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.480 she would trust him in that way. That's okay, that 335 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.960 makes sense. Why did she was at the party? Yeah? 336 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:40.080 And Mo saw the red or he did he saw 337 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.320 the thumb thing. Put your thumb over her mouth because 338 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.399 that guy, that bing Crosby guy whatever put and Helen 339 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.879 Ladjow was angry on the inside. They never really doved 340 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.919 into why she touched his leg She touched his legs 341 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.159 and then nothing. That was it. 342 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.519 It feels like a very mad Libs kind of episode. 343 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.720 It's like we're grabbing little bits and pieces and just 344 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.639 trying to assemble it into something. Very positive reviews from 345 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.559 critics apparently not these ones, well not this one. I 346 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:09.159 mean my first note is actually I thought this episode 347 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.200 is delightful. This is what I've said originally my notes. 348 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.200 This was delightful, no silliness for the most part, just 349 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.240 a positive message of not taking the women in your lives. 350 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.039 Your mum's included, for granted, and the great episode to 351 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:20.759 celebrate mother's date. That's what I had as my notes 352 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:21.600 when I first watched it. 353 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:23.519 That's what I thought, Yeah, I've got moh he was 354 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.360 a true friend and acted in their best interest, even 355 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:27.679 though it doesn't really make sense. I guess if you've 356 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.279 just taken each episode in the vacum, at least Moe 357 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.039 was acting in his friend's best interest. And I've also 358 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.759 got here. I appreciate and a per centric story because 359 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.279 I know he's not long for this world. Well, that's true. 360 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.320 I appreciate Moe. Why you've got him? 361 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.440 And I was also he had nice seeing a freaky 362 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.679 aside of Helen Lovejoy. There's more to her than just gossip. 363 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.000 Well true, here's another thing. Well here my notes I've 364 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.159 got to tap into. So their lives are missing something 365 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.600 or their relationship is missing something. Right, So he seeks 366 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.360 as a refuge in the trains because maybe he's just 367 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.759 had enough of the gossiping because he's always sort of gone, oh, really, 368 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.440 Helen enough of the gossip? Right? But is she feeling 369 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.639 the whole her life with the gossip because he's not 370 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:04.159 giving her any attention? Is it like a cash twenty 371 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:05.480 two that makes a bit of sense. 372 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.039 Yeah, and I guess what I would like to see 373 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:09.759 when you know, she's like, I bought his tickets on 374 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.120 this train for him to make a few sort of 375 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:13.519 even just a little overture. 376 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.399 And oh the train is not the only thing that's 377 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.440 going to be moving, or something like we doesn't share? 378 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.039 Are you excited? See me? Was that you train? Oh? 379 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:19.480 That's right? 380 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.960 And it's like, sorry, yeah, okay, I stand corrected. Much 381 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:25.679 like the Reverend Lovejo. Does you know what I'm talking about? 382 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.279 Anyway, it's kind of like we're here. The Simpsons needs 383 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.399 more of that style. But there's been several times this 384 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.679 review so far we've gone, they really need to do this. 385 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.559 Oh shit, they did it. I really wish she focused 386 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.519 Oh wait, she did focus on it. Why did Manjeelo mope? 387 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:40.919 But they never hangait? Oh wait? 388 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.840 Tune into four figure discount for some really inside commentary 389 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.360 on the Simpsons four figure discount. 390 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.720 We pay attention, not gonna lie like you have changed 391 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.159 my way of thinking that there was lots to improve on. 392 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.279 But as I said my notes, my initial notes were 393 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.840 I really enjoyed this. Well, I hate to be I 394 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:05.400 hate to be a Debbie down. My favorite did you 395 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:06.759 have any favorite moments in the episode. 396 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.759 I did have one or two. Actually, I was almost 397 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.079 I'd say this, having just said the words Debbie down, 398 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:15.319 I was like, we should create a new category called 399 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.680 non favorite moments, because I certainly had some. But in 400 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.319 terms of this, I thought this was such a great 401 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.200