WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.120 Music will always bring cultures together. I feel like music 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:06.960 will bring music and food. Yes, those are gonna bring cultures. 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:14.160 Bac Basse. Welcome to the Unfiltered Lining Podcast. Join us 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:20.120 as we reflect on our personal journeys and share our insights, experiences, 5 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:24.600 and stories. From food to music, language to custom we 6 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:27.960 explore what it means to straddle to cultures and find 7 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.440 a sense of belonging and both. Whether you're a first 8 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:37.000 generation Caribbean American, a seasoned veteran, or simply curious about 9 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:41.439 the rich tapestry of cultures that make up the Caribbean diaspora, 10 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.960 this podcast is for you. We are your host, Berteeth, 11 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:47.679 the Hastien Sensation. 12 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.240 Lisa, the Dominica Diva. 13 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.759 No one's talking, so let's get unfiltered. 14 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.960 All right, We're back d Lining Crew with another episode 15 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:04.120 this week. This week we're gonna be talking about the 16 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:10.799 Calypso confidence, so one thing in the Caribbean. You're gonna 17 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:16.760 have different genres of music. Today we're talking about Calypso okay, 18 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.519 and how the influences with the women in Calypso. The 19 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.879 men have a lot of influence too. And then Dominica 20 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.680 and Haiti and how it all meshes and ties up 21 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:32.760 together and we're all whining and grinding and at the 22 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:34.879 end of the day, right, So. 23 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:39.599 Yeah, that's that's one thing after our music does to 24 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.239 get pregnant. 25 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.439 Well, that's true, you're gonna get espect man. You know 26 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:51.000 how many they talk about, how many pregnancies come up 27 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.079 after Carnie Vaiz Because have you seen. 28 00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:00.599 The way a Caribbean man whine he's waist ain't getting 29 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:01.879 into three babies from that? 30 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.840 I'm sorry, you don't want to get pregnant. 31 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:11.120 Don't go to a Caribbean men, please wherever he is. 32 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:16.240 I'm gonna say this finally on their guys, seeing will 33 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.120 be on that Garibian Do you think that you're not 34 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.439 gonna have four or five children popped up in you 35 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:23.800 the way these men know how to wind that way. 36 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:28.240 I'm just disclaimer. This is my opinion. You ain't got 37 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:32.840 to believe me, but they do say Caribbean men they 38 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:36.400 are very good at having multiple families. 39 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.199 In the diaspora and the diaspora, and you know, we 40 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.479 all know from the motherland they believe it and they 41 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:46.919 having one to two. 42 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:48.919 I'm just be careful. 43 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.080 I'm just I'm just a Caribbean man gonna get you pregnant. 44 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.800 I'm just gonna tell you that right now, any all, 45 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.919 any and all Caribbean men will get you pregnant. 46 00:02:58.120 --> 00:02:59.800 I will tell you that. I'll find out. 47 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:05.240 Mind yourself. This is from burst, this is from the Belli. 48 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:11.319 You're from the Belli. The music, the k the klip 49 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:16.319 sol the what. Look, I'm just even a bunch of music, 50 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.199 gospel music. My Haitian people, you're still mixing some of 51 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:20.800 that komba. 52 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:22.719 I want to know. Look, I'm gonna tell you all 53 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:28.919 this story, the story growing up in a Haitian church. 54 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:32.319 We used to be I want to say. I don't 55 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:37.479 want to say we're bad kids, but you know you 56 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:43.919 had the worship. Worship was my favorite time because worship music. 57 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:48.039 It's just like in comparison to the African American because 58 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:52.879 there's a different type of religion. My pale Caucasian folks, 59 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.800 your church. I'm so sorry, Well I was trying to say, 60 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.840 but then I say Caucasian, and you know whatever, the 61 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.120 church and our church is different. So I'm comparing Caribbean 62 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:15.599 to our African American the all of that mm hmm. Caribbean, 63 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.040 the way we whine. 64 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:22.920 The way we wind out waste. 65 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.240 Boy, when you go to church, you just feel good 66 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:27.600 that you're whining for the Lord. 67 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.839 I would say that going it rest, you wh for 68 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.600 the Lord. Jesus. I don't even know how to take that. 69 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.079 I don't even know how to take that right now. Now, 70 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.600 we don't turn this into we whining for the Lord. 71 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:44.680 I don't. Okay, you know why, because it's it's ingrain 72 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.399 and our waste. We can't help. When the music come on, 73 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.279 whats gonna happen? All waste just automatically takes over. So 74 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.680 that's what I'm saying. Wherever we go and the music 75 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.920 come up, you're gonna get a wine. So I had 76 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.240 when we growing up went to the Haitian church, and 77 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.959 we used to look at the older women and we 78 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:07.839 used to laugh because you could tell just the music 79 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.600 come on and they could be the whole look at 80 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.560 the one dance. We used to be laughing because of 81 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.519 the way they used to just go with the beat, 82 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.439 and especially like the new gospel Haitian music, they have 83 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.800 mixed a little bit of a compa, like the piano 84 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:25.959 and the beat and stuff like that. Because at the 85 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:30.800 end of the day, for Haitian culture. There's different genre, 86 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.839 but the one kompa is basically like a three four 87 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.560 steps is the The beats are the same. The base 88 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.680 of kompa is the same. If you're able to get 89 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:42.439 these four seats. 90 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.720 I like that little dip. I like that little dip 91 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.959 they're dancing and then that dip they do. 92 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:52.759 I love it. It's so sexy beats. 93 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.240 It's church. We're talking about church beats. 94 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.120 The beat, so the piano, the drum and all that. 95 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.319 You could take that and put it to a Haitian 96 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:11.680 Gospels and the people the deep, the deep that that's 97 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:16.240 a little bit. They're gonna give you the little at. 98 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.040 They're gonna give you a little bit of the one. 99 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.680 But it's very sexy. But there are different genres. And 100 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:31.839 again we want to talk about the Caribbean music and 101 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:38.759 how it's influenced on women, us or culture. How do 102 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:42.120 we keep it going, how the how it came about, 103 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.480 because there's a lot of history and like Lisa said, 104 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:52.959 black music, I feel it's all the same. Again, we 105 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.040 just got dropped off in different parts of the world, 106 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.920 different parts of the Caribbean, right, So, but I want 107 00:06:59.920 --> 00:07:03.800 to say the basis of all kind of like black people. 108 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.000 Music comes from the Motherland. Let's be very honest about that. 109 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:11.399 It comes from Africa. The beats, the drums, you know 110 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:14.680 what I'm saying. Everything. And then as we again have 111 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.759 evolved and started to intermingle, whether through slavery, whether whatever, 112 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.959 with the Spanish, with the French, with the British, with 113 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.720 the Portuguese, whatever it is, then those different kind of 114 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.160 instruments that they came, the natives and all of that, 115 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:33.120 then we have kind of like like needs to say, 116 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.800 a melting pot mesh a lot of those different you know, 117 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.399 cultures into the music. Then that's when you have the 118 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.480 different genre. That's when you have compa, right, And that's 119 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.480 why Lisa was saying, like in Dominica they have the 120 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.680 say calypso cadns wampa. 121 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:57.680 Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it's I'm sorry, it's the candillpso. Yes, 122 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:03.399 that's where it originated. And then also the what's the 123 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.720 other word, it's another candice rumpa. 124 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:13.120 Those different kind of genre or dance or music came 125 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.759 from again the melting pot of all the different you 126 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:21.120 know things that different cultures that we got exposed to, 127 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.680 you know what I mean, the French, the Spanish, and 128 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.360 all of that, because even with Haitian Creole, it's a 129 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.959 lot of like the Haitian Creole is a language that 130 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.480 is mixed with Spanish, French and all of that together 131 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.840 and you have the different patois and different dialects. It's 132 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.879 the same thing with the music, so you have the 133 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.960 different genre and the Haitian music that's giving you when 134 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:41.320 you go to. 135 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.919 Because I'm trying to Carnival, but it's I'm gonna say 136 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:47.360 it's kind of bad. 137 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:52.279 When you go to Cannava. The different bands play different 138 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.480 genres of music and it's displayed in kannaval because you're 139 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.879 gonna have the ones that they're gonna do the kind 140 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:02.240 of dance. And again, my Haitian folks will come from me, 141 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:05.960 this is what I've learned. You are more than welcome 142 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.279 to correct me. I'm not gonna take offense to it. 143 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.759 But we all know they have the gid diigity. So 144 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.440 the people that are very traditional and like the dresses 145 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:16.919 and what they present and the beat of the drum 146 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:18.879 and they're just like shaking and all of that. They 147 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.000 kind of like have a lot of times where the white, 148 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:24.320 the women's wear the white and their hairs are tied 149 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.799 and stuff like that. So you have that kind of 150 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.360 genre and I'm gonna give you the real name, but 151 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:34.399 that music, if you listen to it is very drum based, right, 152 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.879 very like drum based. And then you have when we 153 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:44.279 talked about Coba, Couba is more sexy. It's more like yo, 154 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.240 I want to grind. It's like grown folks kind of thing. 155 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.080 It's very sexy. And I feel like that one has 156 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.039 become a little bit more popular with a lot of 157 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.360 the music that you hear. So for me, some of 158 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:02.440 my Haitian favorite Haitian art, it's like Mika Bek, Kylie Mi, 159 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:07.879 Wochelle Gium, Felicia Ross and all of them. They their 160 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.399 music is very kompa related. So when you hear it, 161 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.120 it's kind of similar Woodie wood Boy. You know all 162 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.639 of these people the say this was Alan Kave. So 163 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.720 all of these the popular music now be Geen, the 164 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.279 new ones that you have that Kydie Lack and all that. 165 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.720 They are very heavy on komba. So when you hear 166 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.080 their music, there's komba, but there's also rappers in there. 167 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:40.000 So like Wendy Wendy, he's a Haitian rapper and he's 168 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:44.639 more Haitian creole rap, right, his music is not. But 169 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.039 at the same time, if he does kind of have 170 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.159 some sexy music where you could do the komba, but 171 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.840 he does creole rap. So again you have different genres 172 00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:01.039 a music, different artists, and then you have and then 173 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:02.440 you have you know what I mean, if you go 174 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.480 really old school a lot of Again, I don't really 175 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.399 listen to the gide giddy kind of music and things 176 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.320 like that because I felt like at the time that 177 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:16.159 I started to learn and indulge myself in the Haitian music, 178 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.759 I was more into the two thousand era, right, So 179 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.759 the newest artists, so a lot of the like the 180 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.559 giddigida and all that, I feel like it's more older. 181 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.720 So if you were not exposed to it, you wouldn't 182 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.960 really listen to it. And another reason is my parents 183 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:37.240 were really religious, right, So the assumption is with the 184 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.200 gide gide or the I don't want to say if 185 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.399 people call it like the voodoo dance or something like that, 186 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:47.679 but they related to it's more spiritual that kind of 187 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:52.159 you honest what I'm saying. So, because again, if you 188 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:57.600 believe in Christianity, there are certain genre of music you can't. 189 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.399 I wasn't exposed to a listener to because my parents 190 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.039 thought that it was very again spiritual, so they associated 191 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.000 with like those people they worship, you know, they are 192 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.120 the they practice the voodoo religion. You know. That's what 193 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.600 I'm saying, So very like, and I want to associate 194 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.480 it to like, you know how the natives they around 195 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.240 the fire and in Africa they were, So it's that 196 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.600 kind of the thing. The music, the drums, they're out 197 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.399 here in nature, they're just dancing, and it's like I 198 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.399 would say, it's like how African American cast the Holy spirits, 199 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.080 you know, how they just come out of come out 200 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.799 of their shoes. They're just like, yeah, like that's what 201 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:40.000 it is. But in that sense, that's a genre of music. 202 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.519 And I don't know much about it because I was 203 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.240 not exposed to it. So I'm more into the Haitian 204 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.600 Creole Kumbi kind of music and things like that with 205 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:53.200 what I listen to, and the Haitian a bunch of 206 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:58.519 leak music, gospel music. I do like those. Again that's 207 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:00.360 just me. Do I have it? Yeah? 208 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.919 And the thing is also too like in Dominica, and 209 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:09.759 I think also too with a lot of other Caribbean islands. 210 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.000 They use the music to basically not only for entertaining, 211 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:18.159 but they used it also social commentary, right, talking about 212 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.639 what's going on in the politics also too. They would 213 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:27.200 discuss you know, just people in the community, things that 214 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:30.000 were going on and things like that. Like you know, 215 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.159 the one favorite song that we always talk about in 216 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:36.480 our family is Erica Put Your Boom Women Inside, right, 217 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.200 But that song was like really they were singing about 218 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:44.120 some girl in name Erica back in the Caribbean. So 219 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.240 they really talking about things that are going on in 220 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.000 the community, things that are going on socially also to 221 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.240 and politically. So they definitely not only use it for entertaining. 222 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.519 It was definitely to pass a message on. So that 223 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.759 was an another thing that they will trying to make 224 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.320 political change because the more you sing about it and 225 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.720 you talk about it, I mean, like fast forward today, 226 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.039 we have songs that are trying to make a political 227 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.679 statement too. I mean, shoot, look at Kendrick Lamar. 228 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:16.919 Yes. And then the greatest, I want to say, the 229 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:20.519 greatest one of all two is like with reggae Bob Marley, 230 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.799 you know what I mean? Yeah, Like yeahs are very 231 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.799 you know politically driven and things like that, but it 232 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:29.879 was all and then you have, like in the Haitian community, 233 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:34.559 I feel like they have been certain artists that I 234 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.759 know it will have to do another segment on Kanda 235 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.159 because I feel like Kinda and its origin and how 236 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.200 people do it. It's like they're different bands, right, and 237 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.080 they come together and even though they're artists, but through 238 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.840 this time they put this massive, you know, thing together 239 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.039 for their fan. But there are certain ones when they 240 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.519 go to Carnival and they bring a song out it's political, 241 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.480 like I know what, oh yeah, which it would have 242 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.679 the opportunity to kind of like make fun up and 243 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.840 then come out again whatever political party is. They're too 244 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.960 inconic about. You may be like waste and all of that. 245 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.919 But certain songs that come out doing oh no, there's 246 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.759 a message they use that that's in pretty much every 247 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.919 Carnival year, every season. Every year there's a new song 248 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.840 that comes out based upon what's going on. So oh yeah, definitely. 249 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.320 And the other part is the how it connects us. 250 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:34.840 I know a lot of times we feel that, you know, 251 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.000 in our era, women don't have a voice, right, and 252 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:43.360 I feel like music allows women to express their sexuality, 253 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.320 to express their opinion, to express theirselfs in such a 254 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:51.159 way that let's say they're not on the mic, or 255 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.360 they're not politician and things like that. I think music, 256 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.960 for me, in my opinion, have allowed a lot of 257 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.679 women that look like a US have our experience to 258 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:07.840 express ourselves because we talk about how our Caribbean mothers 259 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.320 we love them, but how they did not know how 260 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:12.440 to express their emotion. 261 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:13.000 Right. 262 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:17.279 So I feel like music I've learned from, you know, 263 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.080 the cultural music, how to kind of like be a 264 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:24.720 woman sometimes, how to be okay with love sometimes, how 265 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:29.200 to be okay with emotion sometimes. So I think being 266 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.440 in this space with music has allowed me, especially cultural music, 267 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.639 learn that, oh I'm not the only woman that looks 268 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.879 like me that goes through this experience based on. 269 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:42.039 This song, Like there's a song, oh yeah, Like one 270 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.360 of my favorite Nation. 271 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.120 Artists, her name is Ucha Yio. She has a song 272 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.799 out with John Legend and stuff like that. She's really good. 273 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.440 But she has like one of our oldest songs that 274 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.639 I remember listening to. It's called Keeping Create and it's 275 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.639 like let me Cry and she goes through her emotion. 276 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.080 That's one of my favorite songs because it just talks 277 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.000 about like there's times just because you don't see the 278 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.440 tears coming down my face, that doesn't mean I'm not crying. 279 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.519 Like just the powerful message in some of the songs 280 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:16.119 that some of these women you know, give or show 281 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:20.599 or share about who they are and their vulnerability. I 282 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:24.839 think it's so empowering for you know, women, you know, 283 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:28.519 and just women male and then male can learn too 284 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.960 sometimes how to treat women right because there oh. 285 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.799 Yeah, there's been plenty of songs out there telling men 286 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:39.039 exactly what they. 287 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.039 Need to do right. So I feel like music there 288 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.839 are so many messages about, you know, how to raise 289 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.519 your kids, you know what I'm saying, that women can 290 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.880 share with you or the struggle that they share with you. 291 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.480 But it's not how would I say aggressive or invasive, 292 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:01.359 because it's through music you just help relate to it 293 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:08.119 and in a way that maybe you just differently. Should 294 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:10.000 they have been politician, you know, That's what I'm saying. 295 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.000 Music just oh yeah, yeah, brenched the gap and things 296 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:13.240 like that. 297 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.920 But yeah, there's another definitely. 298 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.920 There's another artist in Haiti. His name is Big b 299 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:24.720 The and he's another one. His songs are very political 300 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.799 not political driven, but he speaks the truth and his 301 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.279 songs about like knowing and Mi co Ben was another 302 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:33.839 one too, he passed away, but me Coppen Big and 303 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.400 there's some other ones. There are certain artists from where 304 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.519 they're from, and I'm gonna use my history of people 305 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:43.519 because they were the first independent their music also show 306 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.200 the history and the lineage of where they came from. 307 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.000 How we should be proud and also how we should 308 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.240 be able to continue our legacy through the music that 309 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.200 they're sharing. So they're sharing like the true history sometimes 310 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:02.200 through the music that people don't realize, you know, things 311 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.799 that we're stolen or things that they're experiencing now with 312 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:09.559 the politics fit on to just show the youth. You're 313 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:11.759 just stand what I'm saying, like listening to the words 314 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.000 like this is where we are, this is what's going on, 315 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.160 and this is what we should do. So I know 316 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:20.720 I'm rambling, but like music is very powerful to either 317 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.200 you know, it could either bring us together but it 318 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:24.359 also divide us. 319 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.839 You know, there's music no absolutely absolutely, and the also 320 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:34.839 too with the music is passing on the history. That's 321 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.440 that's an important part too, is that we have to 322 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:40.599 pass on the history in those songs that we continue 323 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.279 to play over and over again. Also as well, because 324 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:48.960 I know that the Calypsonians and Dominica, they're constantly passing 325 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:52.680 on the message, whether what's going on in the community politically, 326 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.720 and also the history of the island, right, so those 327 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.680 things are important. And you know, as we talk about 328 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.279 the Queens of Callipse So also too, like in Dominica, 329 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.759 you have Ophelia Marie. You know, she was one of 330 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:11.680 the ones that was history and celebrated Calypso and definitely 331 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:16.880 passed on the message for the generations to come. We 332 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.240 definitely have to celebrate her. And then you know, you 333 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.119 have the other bands too, like the Swinging Stars and 334 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.759 Lord Tokyo and w c K, which is more modern, 335 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.680 you know, So I wouldn't say more modern. W CK 336 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.119 was probably when I was younger, but yeah, I'm gonna 337 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:39.000 say teenage, Yeah, teenage ish, you know, but you know. 338 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.559 And also two in the songs, as part of passing 339 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.160 down history, they use the music to help them get 340 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.559 through natural disasters, as we know that in part of 341 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:53.079 being in the Caribbean is having hurricanes, coming through tornadoes, whatever, 342 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.079 so it also helped them get through those hard times, 343 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.960 you know, turning their tragedy into music as well. So 344 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:06.519 yeah and now yeah so and it's usually male dominated, 345 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:09.359 so when we have our women, we definitely have to 346 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:16.599 remember them. There's another one also too, besides Exile One 347 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:19.720 is another it's a male group. Exil One is another 348 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:24.519 one from down back when Ophelia Marie Time. That also 349 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.960 was another dominiquean band that you know passed on that 350 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:30.720 we need to celebrate too as well. 351 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.640 I know one of my that everybody, And it's so 352 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.039 funny because it's like I was again born in Guadeloup. 353 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:40.160 Of course my parents are Haitian, but in Guadeloup we 354 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.200 had the band called Casa Right, And it's so amazing, 355 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:51.000 you know, originated from Guadeloup. And how many people in 356 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:58.119 the Caribbean that I've met, Jamaican, Trinidad, even Africa, like 357 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:02.519 from Africa, know about So it's also and I am 358 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.960 seeing that now a lot of the Haitian artists are 359 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:14.160 crossing those international over like Usha Gio. She has again, 360 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.119 like I said, she has a song with John Legend 361 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:18.880 a couple of months ago that's called safe right. But 362 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:23.640 she also has collaborated with like Africans artists and things 363 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:27.440 like that. So they are going to and they perform 364 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:28.960 in Africa, you know what I mean. There's a lot 365 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.640 of them that performed international in them. But it's so 366 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.400 great to see the barriers for coming down and for 367 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.960 a lot of them, because even Felicia, Felicia, I need 368 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:43.599 to get this any name, Felicia Ross. I want to say. 369 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:46.079 Her last name is Ross. Let me let me look 370 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.039 at her last name before I mess it up for y'all. 371 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.680 I just call it when you say Felicia, I think, 372 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.079 but I know that. 373 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.960 No, no, no, no, Yeah, she's another one that she 374 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.319 has crossed barriers. You know what I'm saying within the 375 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:04.680 Haitian Alicia. Well, at Lisa's talking, I'm gonna look it 376 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.680 up for y'all. Leicia Ross. 377 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.799 But while you're doing that, also too, I wanted to 378 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:17.160 also also acknowledge the fact that Ophelia Marie and Exile 379 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:22.440 one are one of the two people that also helped 380 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.720 forge that Calypso sound over the different you know Caribbean 381 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:27.720 Islands as well too. 382 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:31.119 Yeah, her name, her last name is Ros. Sorry, Alicia Ross, 383 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:35.160 I was right, yeah, right, yeah. So it's like she's 384 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:40.480 another one and she's collaborated with like the likes of 385 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.920 mom was it one of Barbarley's son, and she's just 386 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:49.079 it is funny because her music, like she has a 387 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.079 little bit of the kopa and then she also has 388 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:58.000 a reggae so it's it's it's also it's also unique 389 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:02.279 to see how we don't have to stay in one genre. 390 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.200 Like like I said, in the Asian community, you have 391 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:12.319 so many different genres that fit that particular that particular 392 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.319 region as well. And then you have people's belief is 393 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.720 what you know what I mean connects them to the music. 394 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.559 And then also for the younger generation, the popularity of 395 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.599 the music of what's going on, you know what I mean. 396 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.400 So there's so many different genres that we don't have 397 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:33.960 to stay just connected to one. You are able to 398 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:37.480 ex if you're a spiritual like I said, the Haitian 399 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.039 have evangelique, you know, gospel music that they listen to. 400 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.400 If you're like one of those, like you don't want 401 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.960