Speaker 1: Music will always bring cultures together. I feel like music
Speaker 1: will bring music and food. Yes, those are gonna bring cultures.
Speaker 2: Bac Basse. Welcome to the Unfiltered Lining Podcast. Join us
Speaker 2: as we reflect on our personal journeys and share our insights, experiences,
Speaker 2: and stories. From food to music, language to custom we
Speaker 2: explore what it means to straddle to cultures and find
Speaker 2: a sense of belonging and both. Whether you're a first
Speaker 2: generation Caribbean American, a seasoned veteran, or simply curious about
Speaker 2: the rich tapestry of cultures that make up the Caribbean diaspora,
Speaker 2: this podcast is for you. We are your host, Berteeth,
Speaker 2: the Hastien Sensation.
Speaker 1: Lisa, the Dominica Diva.
Speaker 2: No one's talking, so let's get unfiltered.
Speaker 1: All right, We're back d Lining Crew with another episode
Speaker 1: this week. This week we're gonna be talking about the
Speaker 1: Calypso confidence, so one thing in the Caribbean. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have different genres of music. Today we're talking about Calypso okay,
Speaker 1: and how the influences with the women in Calypso. The
Speaker 1: men have a lot of influence too. And then Dominica
Speaker 1: and Haiti and how it all meshes and ties up
Speaker 1: together and we're all whining and grinding and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one thing after our music does to
Speaker 2: get pregnant.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, you're gonna get espect man. You know
Speaker 1: how many they talk about, how many pregnancies come up
Speaker 1: after Carnie Vaiz Because have you seen.
Speaker 2: The way a Caribbean man whine he's waist ain't getting
Speaker 2: into three babies from that?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you don't want to get pregnant.
Speaker 2: Don't go to a Caribbean men, please wherever he is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this finally on their guys, seeing will
Speaker 2: be on that Garibian Do you think that you're not
Speaker 2: gonna have four or five children popped up in you
Speaker 2: the way these men know how to wind that way.
Speaker 2: I'm just disclaimer. This is my opinion. You ain't got
Speaker 2: to believe me, but they do say Caribbean men they
Speaker 2: are very good at having multiple families.
Speaker 3: In the diaspora and the diaspora, and you know, we
Speaker 3: all know from the motherland they believe it and they
Speaker 3: having one to two.
Speaker 2: I'm just be careful.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a Caribbean man gonna get you pregnant.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that right now, any all,
Speaker 1: any and all Caribbean men will get you pregnant.
Speaker 2: I will tell you that. I'll find out.
Speaker 4: Mind yourself. This is from burst, this is from the Belli.
Speaker 4: You're from the Belli. The music, the k the klip
Speaker 4: sol the what. Look, I'm just even a bunch of music,
Speaker 4: gospel music. My Haitian people, you're still mixing some of
Speaker 4: that komba.
Speaker 2: I want to know. Look, I'm gonna tell you all
Speaker 2: this story, the story growing up in a Haitian church.
Speaker 2: We used to be I want to say. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say we're bad kids, but you know you
Speaker 2: had the worship. Worship was my favorite time because worship music.
Speaker 2: It's just like in comparison to the African American because
Speaker 2: there's a different type of religion. My pale Caucasian folks,
Speaker 2: your church. I'm so sorry, Well I was trying to say,
Speaker 2: but then I say Caucasian, and you know whatever, the
Speaker 2: church and our church is different. So I'm comparing Caribbean
Speaker 2: to our African American the all of that mm hmm. Caribbean,
Speaker 2: the way we whine.
Speaker 1: The way we wind out waste.
Speaker 2: Boy, when you go to church, you just feel good
Speaker 2: that you're whining for the Lord.
Speaker 1: I would say that going it rest, you wh for
Speaker 1: the Lord. Jesus. I don't even know how to take that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to take that right now. Now,
Speaker 1: we don't turn this into we whining for the Lord.
Speaker 2: I don't. Okay, you know why, because it's it's ingrain
Speaker 2: and our waste. We can't help. When the music come on,
Speaker 2: whats gonna happen? All waste just automatically takes over. So
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Wherever we go and the music
Speaker 2: come up, you're gonna get a wine. So I had
Speaker 2: when we growing up went to the Haitian church, and
Speaker 2: we used to look at the older women and we
Speaker 2: used to laugh because you could tell just the music
Speaker 2: come on and they could be the whole look at
Speaker 2: the one dance. We used to be laughing because of
Speaker 2: the way they used to just go with the beat,
Speaker 2: and especially like the new gospel Haitian music, they have
Speaker 2: mixed a little bit of a compa, like the piano
Speaker 2: and the beat and stuff like that. Because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, for Haitian culture. There's different genre,
Speaker 2: but the one kompa is basically like a three four
Speaker 2: steps is the The beats are the same. The base
Speaker 2: of kompa is the same. If you're able to get
Speaker 2: these four seats.
Speaker 1: I like that little dip. I like that little dip
Speaker 1: they're dancing and then that dip they do.
Speaker 2: I love it. It's so sexy beats.
Speaker 1: It's church. We're talking about church beats.
Speaker 2: The beat, so the piano, the drum and all that.
Speaker 2: You could take that and put it to a Haitian
Speaker 2: Gospels and the people the deep, the deep that that's
Speaker 2: a little bit. They're gonna give you the little at.
Speaker 2: They're gonna give you a little bit of the one.
Speaker 2: But it's very sexy. But there are different genres. And
Speaker 2: again we want to talk about the Caribbean music and
Speaker 2: how it's influenced on women, us or culture. How do
Speaker 2: we keep it going, how the how it came about,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of history and like Lisa said,
Speaker 2: black music, I feel it's all the same. Again, we
Speaker 2: just got dropped off in different parts of the world,
Speaker 2: different parts of the Caribbean, right, So, but I want
Speaker 2: to say the basis of all kind of like black people.
Speaker 2: Music comes from the Motherland. Let's be very honest about that.
Speaker 2: It comes from Africa. The beats, the drums, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Everything. And then as we again have
Speaker 2: evolved and started to intermingle, whether through slavery, whether whatever,
Speaker 2: with the Spanish, with the French, with the British, with
Speaker 2: the Portuguese, whatever it is, then those different kind of
Speaker 2: instruments that they came, the natives and all of that,
Speaker 2: then we have kind of like like needs to say,
Speaker 2: a melting pot mesh a lot of those different you know,
Speaker 2: cultures into the music. Then that's when you have the
Speaker 2: different genre. That's when you have compa, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why Lisa was saying, like in Dominica they have the
Speaker 2: say calypso cadns wampa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it's I'm sorry, it's the candillpso. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's where it originated. And then also the what's the
Speaker 1: other word, it's another candice rumpa.
Speaker 2: Those different kind of genre or dance or music came
Speaker 2: from again the melting pot of all the different you
Speaker 2: know things that different cultures that we got exposed to,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the French, the Spanish, and
Speaker 2: all of that, because even with Haitian Creole, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of like the Haitian Creole is a language that
Speaker 2: is mixed with Spanish, French and all of that together
Speaker 2: and you have the different patois and different dialects. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing with the music, so you have the
Speaker 2: different genre and the Haitian music that's giving you when
Speaker 2: you go to.
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to Carnival, but it's I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: it's kind of bad.
Speaker 2: When you go to Cannava. The different bands play different
Speaker 2: genres of music and it's displayed in kannaval because you're
Speaker 2: gonna have the ones that they're gonna do the kind
Speaker 2: of dance. And again, my Haitian folks will come from me,
Speaker 2: this is what I've learned. You are more than welcome
Speaker 2: to correct me. I'm not gonna take offense to it.
Speaker 2: But we all know they have the gid diigity. So
Speaker 2: the people that are very traditional and like the dresses
Speaker 2: and what they present and the beat of the drum
Speaker 2: and they're just like shaking and all of that. They
Speaker 2: kind of like have a lot of times where the white,
Speaker 2: the women's wear the white and their hairs are tied
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So you have that kind of
Speaker 2: genre and I'm gonna give you the real name, but
Speaker 2: that music, if you listen to it is very drum based, right,
Speaker 2: very like drum based. And then you have when we
Speaker 2: talked about Coba, Couba is more sexy. It's more like yo,
Speaker 2: I want to grind. It's like grown folks kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It's very sexy. And I feel like that one has
Speaker 2: become a little bit more popular with a lot of
Speaker 2: the music that you hear. So for me, some of
Speaker 2: my Haitian favorite Haitian art, it's like Mika Bek, Kylie Mi,
Speaker 2: Wochelle Gium, Felicia Ross and all of them. They their
Speaker 2: music is very kompa related. So when you hear it,
Speaker 2: it's kind of similar Woodie wood Boy. You know all
Speaker 2: of these people the say this was Alan Kave. So
Speaker 2: all of these the popular music now be Geen, the
Speaker 2: new ones that you have that Kydie Lack and all that.
Speaker 2: They are very heavy on komba. So when you hear
Speaker 2: their music, there's komba, but there's also rappers in there.
Speaker 2: So like Wendy Wendy, he's a Haitian rapper and he's
Speaker 2: more Haitian creole rap, right, his music is not. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, if he does kind of have
Speaker 2: some sexy music where you could do the komba, but
Speaker 2: he does creole rap. So again you have different genres
Speaker 2: a music, different artists, and then you have and then
Speaker 2: you have you know what I mean, if you go
Speaker 2: really old school a lot of Again, I don't really
Speaker 2: listen to the gide giddy kind of music and things
Speaker 2: like that because I felt like at the time that
Speaker 2: I started to learn and indulge myself in the Haitian music,
Speaker 2: I was more into the two thousand era, right, So
Speaker 2: the newest artists, so a lot of the like the
Speaker 2: giddigida and all that, I feel like it's more older.
Speaker 2: So if you were not exposed to it, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: really listen to it. And another reason is my parents
Speaker 2: were really religious, right, So the assumption is with the
Speaker 2: gide gide or the I don't want to say if
Speaker 2: people call it like the voodoo dance or something like that,
Speaker 2: but they related to it's more spiritual that kind of
Speaker 2: you honest what I'm saying. So, because again, if you
Speaker 2: believe in Christianity, there are certain genre of music you can't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't exposed to a listener to because my parents
Speaker 2: thought that it was very again spiritual, so they associated
Speaker 2: with like those people they worship, you know, they are
Speaker 2: the they practice the voodoo religion. You know. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So very like, and I want to associate
Speaker 2: it to like, you know how the natives they around
Speaker 2: the fire and in Africa they were, So it's that
Speaker 2: kind of the thing. The music, the drums, they're out
Speaker 2: here in nature, they're just dancing, and it's like I
Speaker 2: would say, it's like how African American cast the Holy spirits,
Speaker 2: you know, how they just come out of come out
Speaker 2: of their shoes. They're just like, yeah, like that's what
Speaker 2: it is. But in that sense, that's a genre of music.
Speaker 2: And I don't know much about it because I was
Speaker 2: not exposed to it. So I'm more into the Haitian
Speaker 2: Creole Kumbi kind of music and things like that with
Speaker 2: what I listen to, and the Haitian a bunch of
Speaker 2: leak music, gospel music. I do like those. Again that's
Speaker 2: just me. Do I have it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the thing is also too like in Dominica, and
Speaker 1: I think also too with a lot of other Caribbean islands.
Speaker 1: They use the music to basically not only for entertaining,
Speaker 1: but they used it also social commentary, right, talking about
Speaker 1: what's going on in the politics also too. They would
Speaker 1: discuss you know, just people in the community, things that
Speaker 1: were going on and things like that. Like you know,
Speaker 1: the one favorite song that we always talk about in
Speaker 1: our family is Erica Put Your Boom Women Inside, right,
Speaker 1: But that song was like really they were singing about
Speaker 1: some girl in name Erica back in the Caribbean. So
Speaker 1: they really talking about things that are going on in
Speaker 1: the community, things that are going on socially also to
Speaker 1: and politically. So they definitely not only use it for entertaining.
Speaker 1: It was definitely to pass a message on. So that
Speaker 1: was an another thing that they will trying to make
Speaker 1: political change because the more you sing about it and
Speaker 1: you talk about it, I mean, like fast forward today,
Speaker 1: we have songs that are trying to make a political
Speaker 1: statement too. I mean, shoot, look at Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2: Yes. And then the greatest, I want to say, the
Speaker 2: greatest one of all two is like with reggae Bob Marley,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like yeahs are very
Speaker 2: you know politically driven and things like that, but it
Speaker 2: was all and then you have, like in the Haitian community,
Speaker 2: I feel like they have been certain artists that I
Speaker 2: know it will have to do another segment on Kanda
Speaker 2: because I feel like Kinda and its origin and how
Speaker 2: people do it. It's like they're different bands, right, and
Speaker 2: they come together and even though they're artists, but through
Speaker 2: this time they put this massive, you know, thing together
Speaker 2: for their fan. But there are certain ones when they
Speaker 2: go to Carnival and they bring a song out it's political,
Speaker 2: like I know what, oh yeah, which it would have
Speaker 2: the opportunity to kind of like make fun up and
Speaker 2: then come out again whatever political party is. They're too
Speaker 2: inconic about. You may be like waste and all of that.
Speaker 1: But certain songs that come out doing oh no, there's
Speaker 1: a message they use that that's in pretty much every
Speaker 1: Carnival year, every season. Every year there's a new song
Speaker 1: that comes out based upon what's going on. So oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: And the other part is the how it connects us.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of times we feel that, you know,
Speaker 2: in our era, women don't have a voice, right, and
Speaker 2: I feel like music allows women to express their sexuality,
Speaker 2: to express their opinion, to express theirselfs in such a
Speaker 2: way that let's say they're not on the mic, or
Speaker 2: they're not politician and things like that. I think music,
Speaker 2: for me, in my opinion, have allowed a lot of
Speaker 2: women that look like a US have our experience to
Speaker 2: express ourselves because we talk about how our Caribbean mothers
Speaker 2: we love them, but how they did not know how
Speaker 2: to express their emotion.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I feel like music I've learned from, you know,
Speaker 2: the cultural music, how to kind of like be a
Speaker 2: woman sometimes, how to be okay with love sometimes, how
Speaker 2: to be okay with emotion sometimes. So I think being
Speaker 2: in this space with music has allowed me, especially cultural music,
Speaker 2: learn that, oh I'm not the only woman that looks
Speaker 2: like me that goes through this experience based on.
Speaker 1: This song, Like there's a song, oh yeah, Like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite Nation.
Speaker 2: Artists, her name is Ucha Yio. She has a song
Speaker 2: out with John Legend and stuff like that. She's really good.
Speaker 2: But she has like one of our oldest songs that
Speaker 2: I remember listening to. It's called Keeping Create and it's
Speaker 2: like let me Cry and she goes through her emotion.
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite songs because it just talks
Speaker 2: about like there's times just because you don't see the
Speaker 2: tears coming down my face, that doesn't mean I'm not crying.
Speaker 2: Like just the powerful message in some of the songs
Speaker 2: that some of these women you know, give or show
Speaker 2: or share about who they are and their vulnerability. I
Speaker 2: think it's so empowering for you know, women, you know,
Speaker 2: and just women male and then male can learn too
Speaker 2: sometimes how to treat women right because there oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been plenty of songs out there telling men
Speaker 1: exactly what they.
Speaker 2: Need to do right. So I feel like music there
Speaker 2: are so many messages about, you know, how to raise
Speaker 2: your kids, you know what I'm saying, that women can
Speaker 2: share with you or the struggle that they share with you.
Speaker 2: But it's not how would I say aggressive or invasive,
Speaker 2: because it's through music you just help relate to it
Speaker 2: and in a way that maybe you just differently. Should
Speaker 2: they have been politician, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Music just oh yeah, yeah, brenched the gap and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's another definitely.
Speaker 2: There's another artist in Haiti. His name is Big b
Speaker 2: The and he's another one. His songs are very political
Speaker 2: not political driven, but he speaks the truth and his
Speaker 2: songs about like knowing and Mi co Ben was another
Speaker 2: one too, he passed away, but me Coppen Big and
Speaker 2: there's some other ones. There are certain artists from where
Speaker 2: they're from, and I'm gonna use my history of people
Speaker 2: because they were the first independent their music also show
Speaker 2: the history and the lineage of where they came from.
Speaker 2: How we should be proud and also how we should
Speaker 2: be able to continue our legacy through the music that
Speaker 2: they're sharing. So they're sharing like the true history sometimes
Speaker 2: through the music that people don't realize, you know, things
Speaker 2: that we're stolen or things that they're experiencing now with
Speaker 2: the politics fit on to just show the youth. You're
Speaker 2: just stand what I'm saying, like listening to the words
Speaker 2: like this is where we are, this is what's going on,
Speaker 2: and this is what we should do. So I know
Speaker 2: I'm rambling, but like music is very powerful to either
Speaker 2: you know, it could either bring us together but it
Speaker 2: also divide us.
Speaker 1: You know, there's music no absolutely absolutely, and the also
Speaker 1: too with the music is passing on the history. That's
Speaker 1: that's an important part too, is that we have to
Speaker 1: pass on the history in those songs that we continue
Speaker 1: to play over and over again. Also as well, because
Speaker 1: I know that the Calypsonians and Dominica, they're constantly passing
Speaker 1: on the message, whether what's going on in the community politically,
Speaker 1: and also the history of the island, right, so those
Speaker 1: things are important. And you know, as we talk about
Speaker 1: the Queens of Callipse So also too, like in Dominica,
Speaker 1: you have Ophelia Marie. You know, she was one of
Speaker 1: the ones that was history and celebrated Calypso and definitely
Speaker 1: passed on the message for the generations to come. We
Speaker 1: definitely have to celebrate her. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: have the other bands too, like the Swinging Stars and
Speaker 1: Lord Tokyo and w c K, which is more modern,
Speaker 1: you know, So I wouldn't say more modern. W CK
Speaker 1: was probably when I was younger, but yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say teenage, Yeah, teenage ish, you know, but you know.
Speaker 1: And also two in the songs, as part of passing
Speaker 1: down history, they use the music to help them get
Speaker 1: through natural disasters, as we know that in part of
Speaker 1: being in the Caribbean is having hurricanes, coming through tornadoes, whatever,
Speaker 1: so it also helped them get through those hard times,
Speaker 1: you know, turning their tragedy into music as well. So
Speaker 1: yeah and now yeah so and it's usually male dominated,
Speaker 1: so when we have our women, we definitely have to
Speaker 1: remember them. There's another one also too, besides Exile One
Speaker 1: is another it's a male group. Exil One is another
Speaker 1: one from down back when Ophelia Marie Time. That also
Speaker 1: was another dominiquean band that you know passed on that
Speaker 1: we need to celebrate too as well.
Speaker 2: I know one of my that everybody, And it's so
Speaker 2: funny because it's like I was again born in Guadeloup.
Speaker 2: Of course my parents are Haitian, but in Guadeloup we
Speaker 2: had the band called Casa Right, And it's so amazing,
Speaker 2: you know, originated from Guadeloup. And how many people in
Speaker 2: the Caribbean that I've met, Jamaican, Trinidad, even Africa, like
Speaker 2: from Africa, know about So it's also and I am
Speaker 2: seeing that now a lot of the Haitian artists are
Speaker 2: crossing those international over like Usha Gio. She has again,
Speaker 2: like I said, she has a song with John Legend
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago that's called safe right. But
Speaker 2: she also has collaborated with like Africans artists and things
Speaker 2: like that. So they are going to and they perform
Speaker 2: in Africa, you know what I mean. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of them that performed international in them. But it's so
Speaker 2: great to see the barriers for coming down and for
Speaker 2: a lot of them, because even Felicia, Felicia, I need
Speaker 2: to get this any name, Felicia Ross. I want to say.
Speaker 2: Her last name is Ross. Let me let me look
Speaker 2: at her last name before I mess it up for y'all.
Speaker 1: I just call it when you say Felicia, I think,
Speaker 1: but I know that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Yeah, she's another one that she
Speaker 2: has crossed barriers. You know what I'm saying within the
Speaker 2: Haitian Alicia. Well, at Lisa's talking, I'm gonna look it
Speaker 2: up for y'all. Leicia Ross.
Speaker 1: But while you're doing that, also too, I wanted to
Speaker 1: also also acknowledge the fact that Ophelia Marie and Exile
Speaker 1: one are one of the two people that also helped
Speaker 1: forge that Calypso sound over the different you know Caribbean
Speaker 1: Islands as well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her name, her last name is Ros. Sorry, Alicia Ross,
Speaker 2: I was right, yeah, right, yeah. So it's like she's
Speaker 2: another one and she's collaborated with like the likes of
Speaker 2: mom was it one of Barbarley's son, and she's just
Speaker 2: it is funny because her music, like she has a
Speaker 2: little bit of the kopa and then she also has
Speaker 2: a reggae so it's it's it's also it's also unique
Speaker 2: to see how we don't have to stay in one genre.
Speaker 2: Like like I said, in the Asian community, you have
Speaker 2: so many different genres that fit that particular that particular
Speaker 2: region as well. And then you have people's belief is
Speaker 2: what you know what I mean connects them to the music.
Speaker 2: And then also for the younger generation, the popularity of
Speaker 2: the music of what's going on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So there's so many different genres that we don't have
Speaker 2: to stay just connected to one. You are able to
Speaker 2: ex if you're a spiritual like I said, the Haitian
Speaker 2: have evangelique, you know, gospel music that they listen to.
Speaker 2: If you're like one of those, like you don't want
Speaker 2: to do the spiritual music because you think it, oh
Speaker 2: just whatever. You have the regular kombab which is just
Speaker 2: sexy and all this other stuff. So there's different genres
Speaker 2: in the Caribbean culture. And if you don't. Reggae music
Speaker 2: is always soca music. It's always you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, one of those you have zoom too,
Speaker 1: you know you have zoom exactly.
Speaker 2: So calypso. So there's so many different genres. And in
Speaker 2: the Spanish Caribbean where they have marangue, they have marangue
Speaker 2: and there's like a salsa salsa, so one of the
Speaker 2: is also like I think of marangue in there. So
Speaker 2: all our music may be different, but we can still
Speaker 2: connect through the love of music with our community after
Speaker 2: it along to our children again the world, you know,
Speaker 2: sharing it with the world, because music, what they call it,
Speaker 2: music is transcending. Music its transcending, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Does it carry any type of how would I say it?
Speaker 2: It's not prejudice? Is it prejudice? I'm gonna say it's just,
Speaker 2: but it's just welcoming. Music is a welcoming form of
Speaker 2: You may not speak the same language, but you hear
Speaker 2: music and it connects us. That makes sense, as it's
Speaker 2: just it's just one of those things like you and
Speaker 2: I can meet and be like I don't understand what
Speaker 2: you're saying something like that, but you put your music.
Speaker 1: On and then you hear the music and then you
Speaker 1: guys are having a good time exactly. Music will always
Speaker 1: bring cultures together. I feel like music will bring music
Speaker 1: and food. Yes, those are going to bring cultures together.
Speaker 2: They are and like they say, we have to remember,
Speaker 2: you know, to continue the movement. So music continue to
Speaker 2: support you know, Caribbean artists, women and male, because they
Speaker 2: have come a long way to spread their music and
Speaker 2: to spread the culture around and they have a artbreaking
Speaker 2: the barrier to be able to be you know, seen
Speaker 2: and heard and just experience it. If you've never you know,
Speaker 2: went out of your way to just pick a different
Speaker 2: type of genre to listen to, pick one and see
Speaker 2: if you like it. Just just just search artists, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean that have even if you
Speaker 2: listen to just only African American music, gospel music, see
Speaker 2: if that artist that you like has partner up with
Speaker 2: a Caribbean person, because I promise you some of them
Speaker 2: they partner up and collab with with other cultures. So
Speaker 2: see if you like that music, and then that's going
Speaker 2: to introduce you to a lot of different artists, a
Speaker 2: lot of different other genres of music that you you know,
Speaker 2: probably thought that you didn't know. So I would say
Speaker 2: the history and being diverse is very important to all
Speaker 2: of us to continue to share, to continue to support,
Speaker 2: to continue to just elevate ourselves. Yeah, because there's very
Speaker 2: talented I feel there's are very talented musicians out there.
Speaker 2: And until you are able to step out of your
Speaker 2: her own self, you know what I mean? In what
Speaker 2: you think, you know what you think it is, sometimes
Speaker 2: it's not really what you think it is. You gotta
Speaker 2: you have to learn the freedom behind a song. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to learn the message behind a song. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to learn that a song is just to
Speaker 2: make people happy.
Speaker 1: Like Lisa, that's that they have so many messages. There's
Speaker 1: so many messages. There was another woman that I forgot
Speaker 1: to mention also to is joy Stout. She's actually became
Speaker 1: Dominica's she's an artist out of Dominica. But she's the
Speaker 1: second ever female Calypso monarch. Oh wow, n yeah, so
Speaker 1: in Dominika. Yeah, she's become the second female. She was
Speaker 1: the dethrone by the ten time Calypso monarch Dice. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Dice was a monarch ten times and she did
Speaker 1: thrown it. Who took first place? Followed by Chernice and
Speaker 1: the Bob Okay. Yeah, so it was a Calypso competition
Speaker 1: in Dominica, so that's another thing. They have the competitions
Speaker 1: in Dominica too, So that was another artist that I
Speaker 1: wanted to mention from the Calypso queens of Dominica. So
Speaker 1: that have definitely impacted the Calypso culture over the Caribbean
Speaker 1: islands too as well. Right, So, if you are so
Speaker 1: many artists, if.
Speaker 2: You're interested in getting a list from us, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do another episode where we might play, you know, some
Speaker 2: of our top songs or artists from you know, different
Speaker 2: cultures and different things. I am very eclectic. I listened
Speaker 2: to all type of music, so for me, you know, soka, reggae, kompa, rap, whatever,
Speaker 2: all of those things. But we might do an episode
Speaker 2: and if you want us to feature maybe you know,
Speaker 2: some songs for y'all to you want us to recommend
Speaker 2: songs for y'all and if you feel like there are
Speaker 2: some songs or artists that we didn't mention that you
Speaker 2: want us to and it doesn't matter. It could be
Speaker 2: from East West part of the world. We are open
Speaker 2: to all because we want to reach the gap and
Speaker 2: show how similar we are Spanish. Whatever it is, bring
Speaker 2: it to us and we'll do We'll do one what
Speaker 2: we're playing our song because I'm gonna telling you there
Speaker 2: is a song for heartbreak. There's a song for children
Speaker 2: that are born outside of marriages. There's a song on
Speaker 2: how to get a woman, how to lose a woman,
Speaker 2: how to be a player, how not to do a player.
Speaker 2: There are songs for everything, and I'm telling you we're
Speaker 2: gonna do it. One day. We're gonna teach y'all how
Speaker 2: these Caribbean songs cultural songs. I'm telling you you want
Speaker 2: to get saved today and be ratchet tomorrow, We're gonna
Speaker 2: do ye, y'all.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna also list down in the comments
Speaker 1: some of the artists that we've mentioned today, so you
Speaker 1: yourself can go and check them out. But we're definitely
Speaker 1: celebrating the women in the genre, in the Caribbean genre,
Speaker 1: so you know that bring calypso zook, reggae, all the
Speaker 1: different genre genres in the Caribbean that help us pass
Speaker 1: on that are basically our storytellers of the past, the future,
Speaker 1: in the present.
Speaker 2: So again, if you want to share with us. How
Speaker 2: does Caribbean music influence your life day to day? Please
Speaker 2: share that with us as well, and Lisa take it
Speaker 2: away with our tips for this episode.
Speaker 1: We got tips. Oh god, we got tips. Hold on, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for the tips. So tips for two
Speaker 1: day for this episode are is fine your anthem? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? There's a Caribbean song for every mood.
Speaker 1: Find the ones that resonate with you. So that's tip
Speaker 1: number one. Number two, learn a new dance style. Let
Speaker 1: loose and celebrate your heritage through movement. If there's a
Speaker 1: dance style that you've been wanting to learn that you don't,
Speaker 1: definitely get out there and try it. I mean, the
Speaker 1: good thing is we have YouTube nowadays, so there's no
Speaker 1: excuse for anyone not learning a new dance. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: My actually is so funny because even though I'm from Dominica,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite dances is salsa. Okay, that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite nice and for our third tip, third
Speaker 1: and final tip is support Caribbean artists. Show love to
Speaker 1: the musicians who keep the culture alive. So whether that
Speaker 1: means you go on YouTube or you go to Apple Music,
Speaker 1: or you go to Spotify and stream their music search
Speaker 1: and it's so interesting. What I like about Spotify is
Speaker 1: that if you search a new artist that you've never
Speaker 1: searched be for, it'll start bringing up more of their
Speaker 1: music and more artists in this genre. So that's a
Speaker 1: perfect place for you. I'm sure Apple does it too,
Speaker 1: but I know I use Spotify. But that's another way
Speaker 1: for you to learn about new genres, learn about new artists,
Speaker 1: and support the current artists that are out there today.
Speaker 2: Pandora is good too, and then again, you you have
Speaker 2: a YouTube account, YouTube.
Speaker 1: Mixed, Yeah, YouTube mixed because you know YouTube is free,
Speaker 1: that's easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so YouTube and Pandora have the well no I
Speaker 2: pay for my Pandora. Well yeah, but still you know
Speaker 2: you can still get onto those and then find the music.
Speaker 2: And like Lisa said, the other way to support is
Speaker 2: also a ten of concert, right because the fun So
Speaker 2: if you can't afford to go to a concert near you,
Speaker 2: support that. Again, your community. There's community events that do
Speaker 2: celebrate kind of you understand I'm saying. Florida, they have
Speaker 2: a lot in New York they have where they have
Speaker 2: these cultural events every Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, you know Carnival kind of that is
Speaker 1: all over the gloriding, I mean, starting with Trinidad in
Speaker 1: February and all the way down to it ends in
Speaker 1: October with Miami Carnival in October.
Speaker 2: Yep. So if you can attend these events, you're more
Speaker 2: than welcome to. If you know, to just go and
Speaker 2: have fun and enjoy, you're gonna get exposed to the music,
Speaker 2: exposed to people, exposed to the culture, exposed to food.
Speaker 2: And that's the best way too sometimes to just go
Speaker 2: and listen and vibe and meet other like minded people.
Speaker 2: If you like music, and if you don't, if that's
Speaker 2: not your speed, go to you know, a Caribbean church,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. They also play their own
Speaker 2: type of music, And that's one way if you're a
Speaker 2: more religious person. We're not telling you to be out there.
Speaker 2: And but there's again, there's plenty of genre whatever suits
Speaker 2: your soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you for joining us d Liner crew.
Speaker 1: Till the next episode they talk about how many pregnancies
Speaker 1: come up after carnievies, Because.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the way Caribbean man wan his waist,
Speaker 2: ain't no way you ain't getting into three babies from that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you don't want to get pregnant. Don't go
Speaker 2: to a Caribbean man, please, wherever he is. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say this finally on their guys seeing or be on
Speaker 2: their Garibian Do you think that you're not gonna have
Speaker 2: four or five children popped up in you the way
Speaker 2: these men know how to wind that way? Disclaim her.
Speaker 2: This is my opinion. You ain't got to believe me,
Speaker 2: but they do say. Caribbean men they are very good
Speaker 2: at having multiple families.
Speaker 3: In the diaspora and the diaspora, and you know, we
Speaker 3: all know from the motherlands they believe and they.
Speaker 2: Have it one to to I'm just be careful.
Speaker 1: The Koreban man gonna get you pregnant. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that right now, any all, any and all
Speaker 1: Caribbean men will get you pregnant.
Speaker 2: I will tell you that.
Speaker 1: Mind yourself.
Speaker 2: This is from burst, This is from the belly. You're
Speaker 2: from the belly. The music, the ka, the glipsol, the
Speaker 2: what look even a bunch of music, gospel music. My
Speaker 2: Haitian people, you're still mixing some of that komba and
Speaker 2: want to know. Look, I'm gonna tell you all this story,
Speaker 2: tell you the story. Growing up in a Haitian church.
Speaker 2: We used to be I don't want to say we're
Speaker 2: bad kids, but you had the worship. Worship was my
Speaker 2: favorite time because worship music. It's just like in comparison
Speaker 2: to the African American because there's a different type of religion.
Speaker 2: My Caucasian folks, your church. I'm so sorry your church
Speaker 2: and our church is different. So I'm comparing Caribbean to
Speaker 2: our African American the.
Speaker 1: All of that mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Caribbean, the way we.
Speaker 1: Whine, the way we whind o waste.
Speaker 2: Boy, when you go to church, you just feel good
Speaker 2: that you're whining for the Lord. I would say that's
Speaker 2: gonna rest for the Lord.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to take that. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to take that right now. Now, we
Speaker 1: don't turn this into we whining for the Lord.
Speaker 2: I don't. Okay, you know why, because it's it's ingrain
Speaker 2: and our waste. We can't help them. When the music
Speaker 2: come on, what gonna happen? All waste just automatically takes over.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. Wherever we go and the
Speaker 2: music come up, you're gonna get a one. So I
Speaker 2: had when we growing up went to the Haitian church,
Speaker 2: and we used to look at the older women and
Speaker 2: we used to laugh because you could tell just the
Speaker 2: music come on and they could be the whole one dance.
Speaker 2: We used to be laughing because of the way they
Speaker 2: used to just go with the beat. And especially like
Speaker 2: the new gospel Haitian music, they have mixed a little
Speaker 2: bit of a compa, like the piano and the beat,
Speaker 2: because for Haitian culture there's different genre. But the one
Speaker 2: kompa is basically like a three four steps is the
Speaker 2: The beats are the same. The base of compa is
Speaker 2: the same. If you're able to get these four steps.
Speaker 1: I like that little dip. I like that little dip
Speaker 1: they're dancing, and then that dip they do.
Speaker 2: I love it. It's so sexy beats. It's church. We're
Speaker 2: talking about church beats. The beat, so the piano know
Speaker 2: the drum and all that. You could take that and
Speaker 2: put it to a Haitian gospels and the people the deep,
Speaker 2: the deep. At least that's a little bit risque. They're
Speaker 2: gonna give you the little at They're gonna give you
Speaker 2: a little bit of the one. But it's very sexy.
Speaker 2: But there are different genres, and we want to talk
Speaker 2: about the Caribbean music and how it's influenced on women,
Speaker 2: us or culture. How do we keep it going, how
Speaker 2: to how it came about, because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: history and like Lisa said, black music, I feel it's
Speaker 2: all the same. Again, we just got dropped off in
Speaker 2: different parts of the world, different parts of the Caribbean, right,
Speaker 2: So but I want to say the basis of all
Speaker 2: kind of like black people music comes from the Motherland.
Speaker 2: Let's be very honest about that. It comes from Africa,
Speaker 2: the beats, the drums on everything. And then as we
Speaker 2: have evolved and started to intermingle, whether through slavery, whether whatever,
Speaker 2: with the Spanish, with the French, with the British, with
Speaker 2: the Portuguese, whatever it is, then those different kind of
Speaker 2: instruments that they came, the natives and all of that,
Speaker 2: then we have kind of like like this to say,
Speaker 2: a melting pot mesh a lot of those different you know,
Speaker 2: cultures into the music. Then that's when you have the
Speaker 2: different genre. That's when you have compa, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why Lisa was saying, like in Dominica, they have the
Speaker 2: say Calypso caadns Wampa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Candalypso. Yes, that's where it originated. And
Speaker 1: then also the what's the other word, it's another, oh Candice.
Speaker 2: Those different kind of genre or dance or music came
Speaker 2: from again the melting pot of all the different things
Speaker 2: that different cultures that we got exposed to, the French,
Speaker 2: the Spanish and all of that. Because even with Haitian Creole,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of like the Haitian Creole is a
Speaker 2: language that is mixed with Spanish, French and all of
Speaker 2: that together and you have the different patois and different dialects.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with the music, so you have
Speaker 2: the different genre and the Haitian music that's giving you
Speaker 2: when you go to Canaval. Because I'm trying to Cardinal,
Speaker 2: but it's ka. I'm gonna say it's kind of vald
Speaker 2: When you go to Cannaval. The different bands play different
Speaker 2: genres of music and it's displayed in Kannava because you're
Speaker 2: gonna have the ones that they're gonna do the kind
Speaker 2: of dance. And again, my Haitian folks will come from me.
Speaker 2: This is what I've learned. You are more than welcome
Speaker 2: to correct me. I'm not gonna take offense to it,
Speaker 2: but we all know they have the gidigity. So the
Speaker 2: people that are very traditional and like the dresses and
Speaker 2: what they present and the beat up the drum and
Speaker 2: they're just like shaking and all of that. They kind
Speaker 2: of like have a lot of times where the white,
Speaker 2: the women's wear the white and their hairs are tied
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So you have that kind of genre.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna give you the real name, but that music,
Speaker 2: if you listen to it is very drum based, right,
Speaker 2: very like drum based. And then you have when we
Speaker 2: talked about Kuba, Cuba is more sexy. It's more like yo,
Speaker 2: I want to grind. It's like grown folks kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It's very sexy. And I feel like that one has
Speaker 2: become a little bit more popular with a lot of
Speaker 2: the music that you hear me some of my favorite
Speaker 2: Haitian artists, it's like Mika Benk, Kylie Me, Wuchelle Gillom,
Speaker 2: Felicia Ross and all of that. They their music is
Speaker 2: very related. So when you hear it, it's kind a
Speaker 2: similar Woodie wood Boy. You know, all of these people
Speaker 2: the say this was Alan Kave, so all of these
Speaker 2: the popular music now Bejeen, the new ones that you
Speaker 2: have now, Kadi Lock and all that. They are very
Speaker 2: heavy on komba, so when you hear their music, there's komba,
Speaker 2: but there's also rappers in there. So like Wendy Wendy,
Speaker 2: he's a Haitian rapper and he's more Haitian creole rap, right,
Speaker 2: his music is not. But at the same time if
Speaker 2: he does kind of have some sexy music where you
Speaker 2: could do the komba, but he does creole raps. You
Speaker 2: have different genres a music, different artists. If you go
Speaker 2: really old school a lot of Again, I don't really
Speaker 2: listen to the getde gende kind of music and things
Speaker 2: like that, because I felt like at the time that
Speaker 2: I started to learn and indulge myself in the Haitian music,
Speaker 2: I was more into the two thousand era, right, So
Speaker 2: the newest artists, so a lot of the like the
Speaker 2: Gidigida and all that, I feel like it's more older.
Speaker 2: So if you were not exposed to it, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: really listen to it. And another reason is my parents
Speaker 2: were really religious, right, so the assumption is with the
Speaker 2: Gendegide or the I don't want to say if people
Speaker 2: call it like the Voodoo dance or something like that,
Speaker 2: but they relate it to it's more spiritual if you
Speaker 2: believe in Christianity. There are certain genre of music you
Speaker 2: can't I wasn't exposed to or listen to because my
Speaker 2: parents thought that it was very again spiritual, so they
Speaker 2: associated with like those people they worship practice the voodoo religion.
Speaker 2: I want to associate it to like you know how
Speaker 2: the natives they around the fire and in Africa they were,
Speaker 2: so it's that kind of the thing. The music, the drums,
Speaker 2: they're out here in nature, they're just dancing, and it's
Speaker 2: like I would say, it's like how African American cast
Speaker 2: the Holy spirits to church, you know how they just
Speaker 2: come out of come out of their shoes. They're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like that's what it is. But in that sense, that's
Speaker 2: a genre of music, and I don't know much about
Speaker 2: it because I was not a closed switch. So I'm
Speaker 2: more into the Haitian creole kind of music and things
Speaker 2: like that with what I listen to, and the Haitian
Speaker 2: a Bancheak music, gospel music. I do like those again,
Speaker 2: that's just me.
Speaker 1: Do I have any also to like? In Dominica and
Speaker 1: I think also too with a lot of other Caribbean islands,
Speaker 1: they use the music to basically not only for entertaining,
Speaker 1: but they use it also social commentary, right, talking about
Speaker 1: what's going on in the politics also too, they would
Speaker 1: discuss you know, just people in the community, things that
Speaker 1: were going on and things like that. Like you know,
Speaker 1: the one favorite song that we always talk about our
Speaker 1: family is Erica put Your Boom Woman Inside, right, But
Speaker 1: that song was like really they were singing about some
Speaker 1: girl in name Erica back in the Caribbean. So they
Speaker 1: really talking about things that are going on in the community,
Speaker 1: things that are going on socially and politically. So they
Speaker 1: definitely not only use it for entertaining. It was definitely
Speaker 1: to pass a message on. So that was another thing
Speaker 1: that they were trying to make political change, because the
Speaker 1: more you sing about it and you talk about it,
Speaker 1: I mean, like fast forward today we have songs that
Speaker 1: are trying to make a political statement too. I mean, shoot,
Speaker 1: look at Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2: You know, I is like with reggae Bob Marley, yoh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're very you know politically driven and things like that,
Speaker 2: but it was all and then you have, like in
Speaker 2: the Haitian community, I feel like they have been certain
Speaker 2: artists that I know it will have to do another
Speaker 2: segment on kind because I feel like ka its origin
Speaker 2: and how people do it. It's like they're different bands, right,
Speaker 2: and they come together and even though they're artists, but
Speaker 2: through this time they put this massive thing together for
Speaker 2: their fan. But there are certain ones when they go
Speaker 2: to Carnival and they bring a song out it's political,
Speaker 2: like I know, oh yeah, it would oh yeah, the
Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of like make fun up and then
Speaker 2: come out again whatever coal party is. They're too being
Speaker 2: fund about. You may be like why no waste and
Speaker 2: all of that, But certain songs that.
Speaker 1: Come out doing oh no, there's a message they use
Speaker 1: that that's in pretty much every Carnival year, every season.
Speaker 1: Every year there's a new song that comes out based
Speaker 1: upon what's going on. So oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: And the other part is the how it connects us.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of times we feel that in
Speaker 2: our era, women don't have a voice, right, and I
Speaker 2: feel like music allows women to express their sexuality, to
Speaker 2: express their opinion, to express theirself in such a way
Speaker 2: that let's say they're not on the mic, or they're
Speaker 2: not politician and things like that. I think music, for me,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, have allowed a lot of women that
Speaker 2: look like us have our experience to express ourselves because
Speaker 2: we talk about how our Caribbean mothers, we love them,
Speaker 2: but how they did not know how to express their emotion. Right.
Speaker 2: So I feel like music I've learned from, you know,
Speaker 2: the cultural music, how to kind of like be a
Speaker 2: woman sometimes, how to be okay with love sometimes, how
Speaker 2: to be okay with emotion sometimes. So I think being
Speaker 2: in this space with music has allowed me, especially cultural music,
Speaker 2: learn that, oh I'm not the only woman that looks
Speaker 2: like me that goes through experience. Based on this song,
Speaker 2: Like there's a song, oh yeah, Like one of my
Speaker 2: favorite artists, her name is Ucha Gio. She has a
Speaker 2: song out with John Legend and stuff like that. She's
Speaker 2: really good. But she has like one of our oldest
Speaker 2: songs that I remember listening to it. It's called Keeping
Speaker 2: Create and it's like let me Cry and she goes
Speaker 2: through her emotion. That's like one of my favorite songs
Speaker 2: because it just talks about like there's times just because
Speaker 2: you don't see the tears coming down my face, that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm not crying. Like just the powerful message
Speaker 2: in some of the songs that some of these women
Speaker 2: give or show or share about who they are and
Speaker 2: their vulnerability. I think it's so empowering for you know,
Speaker 2: women and just women male and then male can learn
Speaker 2: too sometimes how to treat women right because there oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been plenty of songs out there telling men
Speaker 1: exactly what they need to do right.
Speaker 2: So I feel like music, there are so many messages
Speaker 2: about how to raise your kids that women can share
Speaker 2: with you, or the struggle that they share with you.
Speaker 2: But it's not how would I say aggressive or invasive,
Speaker 2: because it's through music. You just help relate to it
Speaker 2: and in a way that maybe you just differently. Should
Speaker 2: they have been politician, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Music just oh yeah, yeah, prinched the gap and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's another definitely.
Speaker 2: There's another artist in Haiti. His name is Big b Ice,
Speaker 2: and he's another one. His songs are very political, not
Speaker 2: political driven, but he speaks the truth and his songs
Speaker 2: about like knowing and me. Copen was another one too,
Speaker 2: he passed away, but me coping big and there's some
Speaker 2: other ones. There are certain artists from where they're from,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna use my history of people because they
Speaker 2: were the first independent their music also show the history
Speaker 2: and the lineage of where they came from. How we
Speaker 2: should be proud and also how we should be able
Speaker 2: to continue our legacy through the music that they're sharing.
Speaker 2: So they're sharing like the true history sometimes through the
Speaker 2: music that people don't realize, things that we're stolen or
Speaker 2: things that they're experiencing now with the politics, that just
Speaker 2: show the youth like listening to the words like this
Speaker 2: is where we are, this is what's going on, and
Speaker 2: this is what we should do. So I know I'm rambling,
Speaker 2: but like music is very powerful to either you know,
Speaker 2: it could either bring us together, but it also divide us.
Speaker 1: You know, there's music no absolutely absolutely, and the also
Speaker 1: too with the music is passing on the history. That's
Speaker 1: that's an important part too. It is that we have
Speaker 1: to pass on the history in those songs that we
Speaker 1: continue to play over and over again. Also well, because
Speaker 1: I know that the Calypsonians and Dominica, they're constantly passing
Speaker 1: on the message, whether what's going on in the community
Speaker 1: politically and also the history of the island. So those
Speaker 1: things are important. And you know, as we talk about
Speaker 1: the Queens of Calypso also too, like in Dominica you
Speaker 1: have Ophelia Marie. You know, she was one of the
Speaker 1: ones that was history and celebrated Calypso and definitely passed
Speaker 1: on the message for the generations to come. We definitely
Speaker 1: have to celebrate her. And then you know you have
Speaker 1: other bands too, like The Swinging Stars and Lord Tokyo
Speaker 1: and w CK, which is more modern, you know. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say more modern. W CK was probably when
Speaker 1: I was younger, but yeah, I'm gonna say teenage, yeah,
Speaker 1: teenage ish. You know, when the songs is part of
Speaker 1: passing down history. They use the music to help them
Speaker 1: get through through natural disasters as we know that in
Speaker 1: part of being in the Caribbean is having hurricanes, coming
Speaker 1: through tornadoes, whatever. So it also helped them get through
Speaker 1: those hard times, you know, turning their tragedy into music
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, yeah, so, and it's usually male dominated,
Speaker 1: so when we have our women, we definitely have to
Speaker 1: remember them. This is also exile one is another it's
Speaker 1: a male group. Exil One is another one from down
Speaker 1: back when Ophelia Marie Time that also was another Dominique
Speaker 1: in band that you know passed on that we need
Speaker 1: to celebrate too as well.
Speaker 2: I know one of my everybody And it's so funny
Speaker 2: because it's like I was again born in Guadeloop. Of
Speaker 2: course my parents are Haitian, but in Guadeloup we had
Speaker 2: a band called Right and it's so amazing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: originated from Guadeloup. And how many people in the Caribbean
Speaker 2: that I've met, Jamaican, Trinidad, even Africa, like from Africa,
Speaker 2: know about Kasa. So it's also and I am seeing
Speaker 2: that now a lot of the Haitian artists are crossing
Speaker 2: those international over like Usha Guio. She has again, like
Speaker 2: I said, she has a song with John Legend a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago that's called Safe Right. But she
Speaker 2: also has collaborated with like Africans artists and things like that.
Speaker 2: So they are going to and they perform in Africa.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of them have performed international in them.
Speaker 2: But it's so great to see the barriers for coming
Speaker 2: down and for a lot of them because even Felicia Felicia.
Speaker 2: I need to get this any name, Felicia Ross. I
Speaker 2: want to say. Her last name is Ross. Let me
Speaker 2: let me look at her last name before I mess
Speaker 2: it up for y'all. I just call it.
Speaker 1: When you say Felicia, I think, but I know that's
Speaker 1: not no.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, she's another one that she has crossed barriers.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying within the Haitian Alicia, well a,
Speaker 2: Lisa's talking. I'm gonna look it up for y'all.
Speaker 1: But while you're doing that, I wanted to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: fact that Ophelia Marie and Exile One are one of
Speaker 1: the two people that also helped forge that Calypso sound
Speaker 1: over the different you know Caribbean Islands as well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her name, her last name is ros Sorry, Alicia Ross.
Speaker 1: I was right, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like she's another one and she's collaborated with
Speaker 2: like the likes of was it one of Barmarley's son,
Speaker 2: And she's just it is funny because her music, like
Speaker 2: she has a little bit of the kumpa and then
Speaker 2: she also has a reggae. It's also unique to see
Speaker 2: how we don't have to stay in one genre, like
Speaker 2: like I said in Na she Can community, you have
Speaker 2: the so many different genres that fits that particular that
Speaker 2: particular region as well. And then you have people's belief
Speaker 2: is what connects them to the music. And then also
Speaker 2: for the younger generation, the popularity of the music of
Speaker 2: what's going on. There's so many different genres that we
Speaker 2: don't have to stay just connected to one you are
Speaker 2: able to if you're a spiritual like I said, the
Speaker 2: Haitian have evangelique, you know, gospel music that they listen to.
Speaker 2: If you're like one of those, like you don't want
Speaker 2: to do the spiritual music because you think it oh
Speaker 2: and just whatever. You have the regular kombab which is
Speaker 2: just sexy and all this other stuff. So there's different
Speaker 2: genres in the Caribbean culture. And if you don't reggae
Speaker 2: music is always so comped. You have zoo, you know,
Speaker 2: you have zoom exactly so calypso. So there's so many differ,
Speaker 2: diferent genres. And in the Spanish Caribbean where they have marangue,
Speaker 2: salsa salsa, so one of the is also like I
Speaker 2: think of marangue in there. So all our music may
Speaker 2: be different, but we can still connect through the love
Speaker 2: of music with our community after it along pacidated to
Speaker 2: our children again the world, you know, sharing it with
Speaker 2: the world because music is transcending. Music its transcending. It
Speaker 2: doesn't carry any type of how would I say it,
Speaker 2: It's not prejudice. Is it prejudice? I'm gonna say it's just,
Speaker 2: But it's just welcoming. Music is welcoming form of You
Speaker 2: may not speak the same language, but you hear music
Speaker 2: and it connects us. That makes sense as it. It's
Speaker 2: just one of those things like you and I could
Speaker 2: meet and be like, I don't understand what you're saying
Speaker 2: something like that, but you put your music.
Speaker 1: On and then you hear the music and then you
Speaker 1: guys are having a good time exactly. Music will always
Speaker 1: bring cultures together. I feel like music will bring music
Speaker 1: and food. Yes, those are gonna bring cultures together.
Speaker 2: They are and like they say, we have to remember
Speaker 2: to continue the movement so music. Continue to support Caribbean artists,
Speaker 2: women and male because they have come a long way
Speaker 2: to spread their music and to spread the culture around
Speaker 2: and they have an art breaking the barrier to be
Speaker 2: able to seen and heard and just experience it. If
Speaker 2: you've never went out of your way to just pick
Speaker 2: a different type of genre to listen to. Pick one
Speaker 2: and see if you like it. Just search artists, even
Speaker 2: if you listen to just only African American music, gospel music,
Speaker 2: see if that artist that you like has part her
Speaker 2: up with a Caribbean person, because I promise you some
Speaker 2: of them they partner up and collapse with with other cultures.
Speaker 2: So see if you like that music, and then that's
Speaker 2: going to introduce you to a lot of different artists,
Speaker 2: a lot of different other genres of music that you
Speaker 2: you know, probably thought that you didn't know. So I
Speaker 2: would say the history and being diverse is very important
Speaker 2: to all of us to continue to share, to continue
Speaker 2: to support, to continue to just elevate ourselves because there's
Speaker 2: very talented I feel there's are very talented musicians out there.
Speaker 2: And until you are able to step out of your
Speaker 2: own self in what you think, you know, what you
Speaker 2: think it is, sometimes it's not really what you think
Speaker 2: it is. You got to you have to learn the
Speaker 2: freedom behind a song. Sometimes you have to learn the
Speaker 2: message behind a song. Sometimes you have to learn that
Speaker 2: sometimes a song is just to make people happy. Like
Speaker 2: Lisa said, to bring.
Speaker 1: So they have so many messages. There's so many messages.
Speaker 1: There was another woman that I forgot to mention also too,
Speaker 1: is joy Stout. She's an artist out of Dominica. But
Speaker 1: she's the second ever female Calypso monarch.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and Dominika, she's become the second female. She
Speaker 1: was the dethrone by the ten time Calypso monarch Dice. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Dice was the monarch ten dimes and she did
Speaker 1: thrown it who took first place, followed by Charnese and
Speaker 1: the Bob Okay. It was a Calypso competition in Dominica,
Speaker 1: so that's another thing. They have the competitions in Dominica too,
Speaker 1: So that was another artist that I wanted to mention
Speaker 1: from the Calypso queens of Dominica. So that have definitely
Speaker 1: impacted the Calypso culture over the Caribbean islands too as well. Right, So,
Speaker 1: if you so many artists.
Speaker 2: If you're interested in getting a list from us, We're
Speaker 2: gonna do another episode where we might play, you know,
Speaker 2: some of our top songs or artists from different cultures
Speaker 2: and different things. I am very eclectic. I listen to
Speaker 2: all type of music, so for me, you know, soka, reggae, kompa, rap, whatever,
Speaker 2: all of those things. So we might do an episode
Speaker 2: and if you want us to feature maybe some songs
Speaker 2: for y'all too, if you want us to recommend songs
Speaker 2: for y'all, and if you feel like there are some
Speaker 2: songs or artists that we didn't mention that you want
Speaker 2: us to and it doesn't matter. It could be from
Speaker 2: East West part of the world. We are open to
Speaker 2: all because we want to reach the gap and show
Speaker 2: how similar we are Spanish, whatever it is, bring it
Speaker 2: to us and will do. We'll do one what we're
Speaker 2: playing our song because I'm gona tell you there is
Speaker 2: a song for heartbreak. There's a song for children are
Speaker 2: born outside of marriages. There's a song on how to
Speaker 2: get a woman, how to lose a woman, how to
Speaker 2: be a player, how not to be a player.
Speaker 1: There are songs for every everything.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we're gonna do it. One day. We're
Speaker 2: gonna teach y'all how these Caribbean songs, cultural songs. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you you want to get saved today and be
Speaker 2: ratchet tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And then we're gonna also list down in
Speaker 1: the comments some of the artists that we've mentioned today,
Speaker 1: so you yourself can go and check them out. But
Speaker 1: we're definitely celebrating the women in the genre, in the
Speaker 1: Caribbean genre, so you know that bring calypso, zook, reggae,
Speaker 1: all the different genre genres in the Caribbean. Yes, that
Speaker 1: will help us pass on that are basically our storytellers
Speaker 1: of the past, the future, in the present.
Speaker 2: If you want to share with us how does Caribbean
Speaker 2: music influence life day to day? Please share that with
Speaker 2: us as well, and Lisa take it away with our
Speaker 2: tips for this episode.
Speaker 1: We got tips. Yeah, I'm not ready for the tips. Ah.
Speaker 1: So tips for two day for this episode are is
Speaker 1: fine your anthem?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: There's a Caribbean song for every mood. Find the ones
Speaker 1: that resonate with you. So number two, learn a new
Speaker 1: dance style. Let loose and celebrate your heritage through movement.
Speaker 1: If there's a dance style that you've been wanting to
Speaker 1: learn that you don't, definitely get out there and try it.
Speaker 1: I mean, the good thing is we have YouTube nowadays,
Speaker 1: so there's no excuse for anyone not learning a new dance.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying my Actually is so funny because even
Speaker 1: though I'm from Dominico, one of my favorite dances is salsa.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's one of my favorite nice and third
Speaker 1: and final tip is support Caribbean artists. Show love to
Speaker 1: the musicians who keep the culture alive. So whether that
Speaker 1: means you go on YouTube, or you go to Apple Music,
Speaker 1: or you go to Spotify and stream their music search
Speaker 1: and it's so interesting. What I like about Spotify is
Speaker 1: that if you search a new artist that you've never
Speaker 1: searched before, it'll start bringing up more of their music
Speaker 1: and more artists in that genre. So that's a perfect
Speaker 1: place for you. I'm sure Apple does it too, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I use Spotify, But that's another way
Speaker 1: for you to learn about new genres, learn about new artists,
Speaker 1: and support the current artists that are out there today.
Speaker 2: Pandora is good too.
Speaker 1: And then again you oh yeah, Pandora.
Speaker 2: You have a YouTube account youtubex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, YouTube, because you know YouTube is free, that's easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yout the Well no I pay for my Pandora?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but still you could still get onto those
Speaker 2: and then find the music. And like Lisa said, the
Speaker 2: other way to support is also a ten of concert
Speaker 2: right because the fun. So if you can't afford to
Speaker 2: go to a concert near you, support that again and
Speaker 2: your community. There's community events that do celebrate Kana. In
Speaker 2: Florida they have a lot. In New York they have
Speaker 2: where they have these cultural events every well, first.
Speaker 1: Of all, you know, Carnival kind of valve is all
Speaker 1: over the gloriding. I mean, starting with Trinidad in February
Speaker 1: and all the way down to it ends in October
Speaker 1: with Miami Carnival in October.
Speaker 2: Yep. So if you can attend these events, you more
Speaker 2: than welcome to just go and have fun and enjoy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get exposed to the music, exposed to people,
Speaker 2: exposed to the culture, exposed to food. And that's the
Speaker 2: best way too sometimes to just go and listen and
Speaker 2: vibe and meet other like minded people. If you like music,
Speaker 2: and if you don't, if that's not your speed, go
Speaker 2: to a Caribbean church, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 2: also play their own type of music. And that's one way.
Speaker 2: If you're a more religious person, We're not telling you
Speaker 2: to be out there and while but I'm again, there's
Speaker 2: plenty of genre whatever suits your.
Speaker 1: Soul, So thank you for joining us d Liner crew
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